WEBVTT - "FEELING THORNY!" W/ Your Hostess Arden Myrin (interviewed by Lisa DeLarios)!

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Will You Accept This Rose? A production of

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<v Speaker 1>I Heart Radio. There was an earthquake last night. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, you know what that earthquake was people being

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<v Speaker 1>excited about my book dropping on Tuesday. This Tuesday, it's coming,

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<v Speaker 1>and the earth shook all over Los Angeles, demanding copies. No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>my baby's night yet. So morning, Los Angeles, So morning

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<v Speaker 1>for my book that waits shifted? Oh my god? Is

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<v Speaker 1>that we only we don't need one theme song? Why

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<v Speaker 1>have one theme song when you can have to get

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<v Speaker 1>ready for this one? Lisa, you know what time it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for hard to get a little close and

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<v Speaker 1>a little thorny. Well, was gonna go one on one,

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be hot energy phone convo's all gonna be super real.

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<v Speaker 1>She wants to get with you and all the feeling thorny.

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<v Speaker 1>Who feeling thorny? We're not Marie. Wow, I haven't actually

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<v Speaker 1>heard that in a little while. Oh it's not done yet.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was Avery Pearson and of course Mark River's

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<v Speaker 1>up top two people who should be winning Grammys in

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<v Speaker 1>the upcoming Grammy what you guys, This is a very

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<v Speaker 1>special feeling thorny, and I feel kind of cocky saying

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<v Speaker 1>that because I'm forcing my friend to interview um, and

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to say, up top, you guys, if you

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<v Speaker 1>think if you have to find it hopefully, okay, I'm back.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you wear? It's a romper I'm wearing a romper.

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<v Speaker 1>Um you guys, if you think that you you've the

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<v Speaker 1>road has risen to meet me when I'm like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys, I've written a book. Will you preorder it?

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<v Speaker 1>None of you have been like stop talking about it. Bish.

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<v Speaker 1>Not only did you not say that, you were like, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we preordered it. Here is our receipt and it's not

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<v Speaker 1>too it's not too late. Just keep mailing it in

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm gonna be doing giveaways today. I'm gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>doing giveaways for next week. It is Aaron Foley's episode.

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<v Speaker 1>This is happening, and this is what I want to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you. Beyond that, in a perfect world, there would

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<v Speaker 1>be so many things different than what is happening in

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just start like, literally, not one thing. There's literally

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<v Speaker 1>not one thing that I would have willed to be

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<v Speaker 1>happening except for the following. In a dream world with

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<v Speaker 1>my book coming out, I would be flying all over

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<v Speaker 1>the world, coming to your hometown, doing readings, doing stand

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<v Speaker 1>up meeting, all of you signing books, hanging out. As

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<v Speaker 1>it is, I've been put into my shame hole. Say

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<v Speaker 1>question to my garage in Los Angeles, California, And and

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<v Speaker 1>so I can't I can't have a book tour. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I can do doesn't mean that J J.

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<v Speaker 1>Marine did not raise a drip. I am not a drip.

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<v Speaker 1>I do know how to celebrate, and I'm throwing a

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<v Speaker 1>fucking book released party slash comedy variety show that you

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<v Speaker 1>guys can come to because it's online. It's this Saturday night.

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<v Speaker 1>It's at Dynasty typewriter dot com and we it's on

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be me. Bachelor of the Year and twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Rob Benedict is coming and he's going to be performing

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<v Speaker 1>a cover of a Katy Perry song, Who was My

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<v Speaker 1>Mother's Favorite? We also have Friend of the Podcast Lauren Lopkiss,

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<v Speaker 1>who was you guys saw the Wrong Missy during a

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<v Speaker 1>quarantine on Netflix? She was Missy. If you haven't seen it,

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<v Speaker 1>go watch it. She's great. But she was also on

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<v Speaker 1>Orange as the New Black. She was on Crashing So Me,

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<v Speaker 1>Rob Bennedict, Lauren Lakis. Also, if that's not enough for you,

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Sofie, Friend of the podcast. He also hosts Throwing Shade.

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<v Speaker 1>He is one on Fox and my brother Alaric. That's

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<v Speaker 1>five creatures for five dollars. It's a dollar for each

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<v Speaker 1>of us. And if you're like artem okay, I need

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<v Speaker 1>another incentive if you bundle buying your book through the

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<v Speaker 1>Dynasty Typewriter website. They have partnered with Skylight Books in

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<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles, and you can get a custom signed copy

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<v Speaker 1>so you can be like Artem I want to give

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<v Speaker 1>this to my boss, Melanie, so I will. You can

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<v Speaker 1>literally tell me who to write it out to a

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<v Speaker 1>custom sign to you, your friend, your sister, your loved one, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>Hey Melanie, thanks, I hope you like the book. You

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<v Speaker 1>can do that. So that is the first thing I

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<v Speaker 1>want to tell you. The second thing is if you're

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<v Speaker 1>like girl, I don't want to do any of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have five dollars. I don't I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what your situation is, and I'm not judging. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>giving out influencer boxes. Perhaps you've seen them. Now, two

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<v Speaker 1>people here with me today. You can't say we don't

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<v Speaker 1>love animals on the will Accept This Rose podcast. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't say we haven't adopted the legal limit of animals

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<v Speaker 1>that are you can have in Los Angeles, because I

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<v Speaker 1>think between all of us we each have about seventy

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<v Speaker 1>eight animals. With me today is is Kabie Levane and

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<v Speaker 1>one of my very best friends on Earth. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you guys are our Patreon member and you've been going

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<v Speaker 1>through the Bachelor in New Zealand with us, you know

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<v Speaker 1>this woman She also was on one of the main

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<v Speaker 1>feeds recently with Rob Benedicts. She's one of my best friends.

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<v Speaker 1>She's a great stand up comedian. She's also an excellent

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<v Speaker 1>dog trainer if you need one in the city of

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<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles. Ladies and gentlemen, my friend Lisa Delarios, Lisa dy,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys got your influencer boxes this morning. What what

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<v Speaker 1>did What did you think? Oh? I loved it. I

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<v Speaker 1>was so excited. I was took the dogs on a

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<v Speaker 1>walk and I came home and I had this really

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<v Speaker 1>cute package on my front steps and it was like

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<v Speaker 1>this cute like kind of teal and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>what is that? I didn't want anything is And I

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<v Speaker 1>got so excited. And then I saw that it's a

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<v Speaker 1>little miss Little Compton and I was like, oh, fuck yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's very cute. It was. It was like the

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<v Speaker 1>most like cutely packaged package I've ever received. It had

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<v Speaker 1>like a the cute card with you and then like

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<v Speaker 1>the pictures in it with the in the tissue paper

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<v Speaker 1>even had a little birdies on it. I custom printed

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<v Speaker 1>it because there's a story in the book. There was

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<v Speaker 1>a there was a criminal at my hometown that would

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<v Speaker 1>steal mail. That was crow named Poe the Crow. If

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<v Speaker 1>you get the box, there's a there's a crow on

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<v Speaker 1>the cover with a piece of mail in its beak.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the printed custom. I kept the tissue weaver because

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<v Speaker 1>I liked it so much. And then yeah, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I do want me to say what was in it? Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>they that it had the book. And then it has

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<v Speaker 1>really cute teal toote. Yes, it says little miss little Compton.

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<v Speaker 1>And then a puzzle of you and mittens, which I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so excited to do. I mean, I just felt like

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<v Speaker 1>Santa Claus. I wanted to I just felt like everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>having a hard time. Look, I didn't think i'd be

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<v Speaker 1>launching this book in a pandemic. And if there's one

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<v Speaker 1>thing J J. Marine taught me, it was how to customize,

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<v Speaker 1>how to go to like basically the equivalent of party city.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like I can't throw a party. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>have a party in my yard. I can't have a

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<v Speaker 1>party in a bar, I can't have a party in

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<v Speaker 1>a in a bookstore, but you can have it. So

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<v Speaker 1>the puzzle, I don't know if you notice, Katie is

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<v Speaker 1>a recreation of my sixth grade photo that's on the card.

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<v Speaker 1>So leta you got one where you and when you?

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<v Speaker 1>How about the box? The box alone is maybe my finest,

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<v Speaker 1>the actual box, the stuff in it's so cute. Some

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<v Speaker 1>fine Yeah, it's it's a fine box. And I was

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<v Speaker 1>pulling into my parking lot and I saw a strange

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<v Speaker 1>man trying to get into my building, and all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden I was like, wait, is that Dan? Dan?

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<v Speaker 1>And then sure enough it was Arden's Lovely my gentleman caller,

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<v Speaker 1>my loved woman, gentleman friend Dan, and he turned around

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<v Speaker 1>and gave me this lovely package and then poofy was gone. Dude,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean this. Everybody thinks that the publisher I appreciate that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to keep up the mystique that that

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<v Speaker 1>the publishers treating me like I'm John grisha I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm John Grisham like so, I I designed it all,

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<v Speaker 1>I packed it all, I hand packed it all. I

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna have a packing party with my friend outside

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<v Speaker 1>last weekend, but there was so much so in ash

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<v Speaker 1>in here. I couldn't make my beautiful babies covered in

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<v Speaker 1>soot and stand out city city babies. No, so here's

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<v Speaker 1>the thing, guys. If you're like, all right, are don't

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<v Speaker 1>we get it? All your fancy friends, they gotta know

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<v Speaker 1>you guys are my fancy friends. And you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to buy or you don't buy anything to get one

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<v Speaker 1>of these. Here's how you do it. Go on my Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>I've posted fifty eight thousand photos of the book, or

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<v Speaker 1>me with the book. Does something showing the book posted

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<v Speaker 1>on your main Instagram page, say why you want to

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<v Speaker 1>read it? Tag three of your friends and do the

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<v Speaker 1>hashtag little miss Elsie. That's little miss Elsie. Post on

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<v Speaker 1>your page is something of the book. It does screen

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<v Speaker 1>grab anything from my page. And you're on October one,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna pick three people and I'm gonna do a

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<v Speaker 1>giveaway where I'm sitting three people a signed copy of

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<v Speaker 1>the book. The Cutest the Cutest Box Ever. They caused

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<v Speaker 1>some tissue paper. The sixth grade photo that was overly

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<v Speaker 1>con fident but looking like barbed from Stranger Things Creation

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<v Speaker 1>as an adult, where I had fake braces made and

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<v Speaker 1>I made mittens come with me. Lisa drove mittens over

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<v Speaker 1>that day to be in the photo. I was. I

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<v Speaker 1>was the mittens wrangler for the day he drove over

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<v Speaker 1>to Robin bond Swank studio and I was so good

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<v Speaker 1>and quiet. She was miserable. You can see the look

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<v Speaker 1>at her face was like, get me out of this

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<v Speaker 1>woman's clutches, and then you get yourself a little miss,

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<v Speaker 1>a little content tote. So just go on. I'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>you what I wanted. I really wanted my actual sixth

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<v Speaker 1>grade photo to be the cover, and they were like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>we want people to recognize you. So I was like fine.

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<v Speaker 1>So then I was like, okay, then I'll recreate it.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I was rooting for. I was like, that's

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<v Speaker 1>clearly the cover as me with mittens. But I actually

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<v Speaker 1>believe I got the right cover that I was supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to get. And then I was supposed to make this.

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<v Speaker 1>I was supposed to start a puzzle company. It's an

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<v Speaker 1>amazing gift box. It's an amazing gift box. I think.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the fact that you designed it and packaged

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<v Speaker 1>it makes it extra special. Thank you so much. I

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I kept wanted. I knew again. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, man, I'm locked in my house. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>Tina Fey, I'm not John Grisham. So I thought, what

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<v Speaker 1>I can do is design ship, and I know the

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<v Speaker 1>book is fun and good, and I thought everybody, everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>having a hard year. So I was like, fuck it,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to take every penny I've ever made, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna make presents from my friends and gonna make

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<v Speaker 1>it impossible for people to not want to photograph this.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna make it impossible for people to not want

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<v Speaker 1>to put it on Instagram. And I feel like that

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<v Speaker 1>was the whole goal, was like grassroots and if they

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<v Speaker 1>don't I just made them a little happy whatever. And

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<v Speaker 1>if it didn't make them happy, then they're dead inside

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<v Speaker 1>and that's not my problem and I can't fix that.

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<v Speaker 1>So um, well, can I just also say please, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of tote bags out there? Yes. I actually

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<v Speaker 1>I took it out and looked at it, and and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, this is a quality toe. I'll tell you what,

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<v Speaker 1>because I've got a lot of totes in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>And I actually spent quite a bit of month me

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<v Speaker 1>on the tote because I was like, I didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>a thin tote. I wanted like a booge. I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to be the equivalent of like a purse or a

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<v Speaker 1>beach bag or a book bag. I want thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much, Lisa, because that was an intentional like I

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<v Speaker 1>could have saved a lot of money. If I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>make it, it would have looked the same, but it

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have been a quality toe. No, it's a quality toe.

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<v Speaker 1>It's got like the nice handles, like the sturdy handles,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's it's a good size. Katie's nodding your craft

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<v Speaker 1>out of it. Katie's nodding her head. And if you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>guess what art and I might not win. I want

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<v Speaker 1>that fucking tote you. I don't know if how many

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<v Speaker 1>are left. You could try go see if they're still

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<v Speaker 1>left at arten marine book dot com if you can

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<v Speaker 1>get if you buy the book, you get it signed

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<v Speaker 1>book and a free tote with it for the first

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<v Speaker 1>fifty people. They might be sold out, but race over

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<v Speaker 1>there and see if there's any totes left, because you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, you could always have give one as a

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<v Speaker 1>present if you win it and you put it on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know your deal. I don't know where you're

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<v Speaker 1>up to. And at the end of this episode, we

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<v Speaker 1>are going to be doing some giveaways because people I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be doing and I'm gonna let you guys pick

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<v Speaker 1>email in when you win and say, hey girl, I

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<v Speaker 1>want Rose Podcast at gmail dot com. You tell me

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<v Speaker 1>you want you want a mitten's puzzle, you want a toe,

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<v Speaker 1>you want a T shirt. I don't know what your

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<v Speaker 1>deal is. You tell me what you want, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna put four winners at the end of this. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna keep pawing. You guys are my friends. So here

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<v Speaker 1>we go, Katie, thank you for your service. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>here we are. It's me and Lisa. So Lisa and

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<v Speaker 1>I let me just do a little up top because

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<v Speaker 1>Lisa has read the book and we're gonna be chatting

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<v Speaker 1>about that up top. Lisa and I met. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>shave some years off of us. Lisa. We met in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and nineteen when we were twenty two and

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<v Speaker 1>um we were doing stand up at Stand Up New

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<v Speaker 1>York back in the day with you and me and

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<v Speaker 1>Zach Galifianakis and A. D. Miles, Bobby Tuesdale and um,

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<v Speaker 1>and we were we knew each other, we were buds.

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<v Speaker 1>But then you reconnected when I moved back to New

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<v Speaker 1>York after Mad TV in two thousand and nine, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we started a comedy show. Um, but I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to say, like when I first I always thought

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<v Speaker 1>you were so talented, so different. I thought your stand

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<v Speaker 1>up was so great, You're such a great writer. There's

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<v Speaker 1>nobody like you. And I always just like you were

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<v Speaker 1>just a nice person. And then we started this show

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<v Speaker 1>in Brooklyn at the Union Hall and then sometimes we

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<v Speaker 1>would do it at the Bellhouse called the Party Machine,

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<v Speaker 1>where we would stage elaborate parties that were comedy show.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's the equivalent of the Box. The Box

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<v Speaker 1>is a party machine. Um. We because we alwould spend

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<v Speaker 1>more money on costumes than we would make like we would.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a theme party, you know, remember we did

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<v Speaker 1>like a cruise ship theme and you were in like

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<v Speaker 1>a captain tat and like yeah, so, but can I

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<v Speaker 1>say like the premise of our show, which is your

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<v Speaker 1>idea Party Machine show was totally your brain child. And

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<v Speaker 1>you approached me and you were like, hey, you to

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<v Speaker 1>start a show. And I had kind of stopped doing

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<v Speaker 1>stand up because I'd gone back to school, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was like I was like, yes, I do want to start.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just like the right timing for both of us,

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<v Speaker 1>and I wanted it to be good vibes. It was

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<v Speaker 1>such good vibes. It was all fun and it was

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<v Speaker 1>the theme was you and I were professional party planners

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<v Speaker 1>and every single show was a different party and we

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<v Speaker 1>were like, yeah, we went full blown costume, full costume.

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<v Speaker 1>It did what was the first one dog days of summer,

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<v Speaker 1>and we've had fake tans that sorry, we had fake

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<v Speaker 1>tansum and then we had like beach balls that were

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<v Speaker 1>going through that. But it was so dumb. We had

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<v Speaker 1>like the baby we had a baby shower party. We

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<v Speaker 1>we had we were like the most pregnant humans that

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<v Speaker 1>had ever been. Oh yeah, we had family reunion. There

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<v Speaker 1>was a lot. We had a lot of different we

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<v Speaker 1>had when you can't do now? We did a Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson party. Can't do that now, you can't we get out?

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<v Speaker 1>Did we have a like, uh, what's the pretty and

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<v Speaker 1>pink sixteen candles? Probably because eventually you run out of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>We had the birthday party. We had like a retirement

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<v Speaker 1>party eventually. The one of snow Day was oh snow Day.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember wearing a full snowsuit and being so hot

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<v Speaker 1>on stage, but it was so fun. It was so

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<v Speaker 1>hot and yeah, that's right. We had a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>so the hot celebs came. I remember you were dressed

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<v Speaker 1>early as Michael Jackson flirting with Jason studakas like with

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<v Speaker 1>the glove and the fedora, and then you were but

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<v Speaker 1>you looked just like Michael Jackson, and you were wondering

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<v Speaker 1>if he was like into you. Yeah, I didn't like cute.

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<v Speaker 1>I looked You're terrifying. It was not good. It wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>We have photos of it. With the glove, you had

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<v Speaker 1>a bomber check and and he was like jammed in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of us on chairs, looking being a good sport,

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<v Speaker 1>but looking kind of capture, like by these two insane

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<v Speaker 1>women that had kind of captured him, which was the

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<v Speaker 1>g D delight. And you and I have just we've

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<v Speaker 1>done so many fun shows, so many terrible Remember when

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<v Speaker 1>we did that stand up gig at the dog track

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<v Speaker 1>in New York, Like we went out to some dog

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<v Speaker 1>racing track and did stand up like in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the casino, like in between slot misches. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot about that. And there was a headliner there

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<v Speaker 1>was I was the headliner. I was the headliner. It

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<v Speaker 1>was It was not our best work, but we got

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<v Speaker 1>through it. That's when you really boy has forty five

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<v Speaker 1>minutes never seemed so long in my life. But Lisa,

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<v Speaker 1>so I was like, I knew I wanted to do

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<v Speaker 1>a feeling thorny, and I was like, who do I

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<v Speaker 1>want to ask? And I just thought, Lisa is a

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<v Speaker 1>big reader. Lisa loves books. Lisa knows me, she knows

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<v Speaker 1>a lot about my family. Were the same age, and

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<v Speaker 1>she also has a quirky family. Although we grew up

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<v Speaker 1>in very different parts of the world, are very different.

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<v Speaker 1>But I thought she would give sort of an honest

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<v Speaker 1>we have not chatted beforehand, and uh, she's finished the

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<v Speaker 1>book and we're just going to chat about the book. Lisa,

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<v Speaker 1>you read it, little miss little Compton. You say, you

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<v Speaker 1>say that, I'm It's yeah, it's such a fun read.

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<v Speaker 1>It is such a delightful, fun compelling read. And you say,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a reader. But to be honest, yeah, I like

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<v Speaker 1>to think of myself as a reader, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have the focus really to finish books. It's all right,

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<v Speaker 1>I start books. It's rare that I find a book

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<v Speaker 1>that i'm I get into and then I like I

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<v Speaker 1>want to you know, like I I'm excited to get

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<v Speaker 1>back to it. And I absolutely felt that way about

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<v Speaker 1>little miss little Compton. Yeah, it's I mean. And also

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<v Speaker 1>you know that as a comedian, jaded old comedian, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I don't laugh easily, like I mean, I don't just

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<v Speaker 1>it takes a lot to make me belly laugh. And

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<v Speaker 1>I I swear to God l O L my way

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<v Speaker 1>through this book like that makes that makes me feel

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<v Speaker 1>so good. Art. I mean, I've always known um to

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<v Speaker 1>the listeners, I've always known the art in It's like

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<v Speaker 1>you know a word Smith. She's funny, like like rapid

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<v Speaker 1>fire funny. You you're you have mad improv skills, but

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<v Speaker 1>I had no idea that you could translate that into

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<v Speaker 1>the written word. And it is really well written. It's

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<v Speaker 1>really it's like I feel like you've been writing books

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<v Speaker 1>for years. And and I'm not just saying I totally

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<v Speaker 1>feel this way. I because you're my friend. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>That means so much to me because I'm so and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying and I'm not saying I do not

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<v Speaker 1>say this lately because I know people out there who

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<v Speaker 1>have a been officially diagnosed or like, hey, like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying this is like a joking way. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>part of me that does I feel that I probably

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<v Speaker 1>have a little a D D. So the sheer fact,

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<v Speaker 1>it's always I've always been like a sprinter, not a

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<v Speaker 1>marathon person of I get things done. But if you

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<v Speaker 1>watched me, it's organized chaos, like it doesn't look I

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<v Speaker 1>don't look like a person that's getting things done. And

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<v Speaker 1>as you know, even when we would prep for party machine,

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<v Speaker 1>you were very much a straight line, and I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>a I'm like a spiral. Totally. Yes, that is so true.

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<v Speaker 1>You were like rapid fire, like shooting ideas out. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's not an order. It's not an order, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>and so the sheer fact this to me, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how this actually got I don't I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>quite how it actually got made in that that it

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<v Speaker 1>had to be. It's suthing. You can't do a book

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<v Speaker 1>in one night. You literally can't complete Like podcasting is

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<v Speaker 1>almost perfect for me, you know. Like, so it was

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<v Speaker 1>to think that I actually had to have an overarching thing,

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<v Speaker 1>have to be organized, have it be long, and then

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<v Speaker 1>like have it make have each chapter sort of lead

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<v Speaker 1>to the next and like be cleaned up and polished

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<v Speaker 1>is so against how my brain and how I work

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<v Speaker 1>that it's and and for anybody out there that's like

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<v Speaker 1>wants to be an author if it makes you feel better.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not sit down and write it from like

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<v Speaker 1>eight am to four pm, like at first, it was

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<v Speaker 1>like ten or fifteen minutes a day, Like I just

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't do it. It's too painful to stare at the

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<v Speaker 1>flank page. Yeah, and I remember you you telling me

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<v Speaker 1>like when you were in the process of writing it,

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<v Speaker 1>like that you would do these little time spurts yea,

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, I would black out like it was almost

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like, you know, because it's also because it's

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<v Speaker 1>about your life too, so it was it's not even

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<v Speaker 1>like the super personal stuff like it was interesting what

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<v Speaker 1>made me want to black out like that? They publisher

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<v Speaker 1>requested a chapter of How I got so so for

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<v Speaker 1>the listeners, like the gist of sort of the overall arches.

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<v Speaker 1>My parents met and married on a dare in Manhattan

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<v Speaker 1>and then moved to this tiny town of Rhode Island

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<v Speaker 1>called Little Compton, Rhode Island, where I was born with

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<v Speaker 1>my brother. And it's a town of three thousand people

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<v Speaker 1>with the general store and the aforementioned criminal that's a

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<v Speaker 1>crow and no stoplights. And I had stars in my eyes,

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<v Speaker 1>and then somehow I made it onto an NBC sitcom

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<v Speaker 1>by the time I was twenty two, and the publisher

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to know how I got from the fields of

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<v Speaker 1>Rhode Island to a sound stage in Los Angeles. And

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<v Speaker 1>I remember writing that chapter, I blacked out like every

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<v Speaker 1>other I just kept thinking who fucking care? Like who

0:22:42.760 --> 0:22:45.480
<v Speaker 1>do you think you? Oh? Look at me on Meryl Street,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it was literally it. I couldn't stop blacking out

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<v Speaker 1>of like the arrogance to write, how dare you write?

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<v Speaker 1>Like who cares? And I remember thinking, like, no, I

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<v Speaker 1>would want to read that if it was if I

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<v Speaker 1>was reading somebody else's book, would absolutely how did you

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<v Speaker 1>do it? But not writing it felt like braggy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I can understand having that feeling. But this book is

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<v Speaker 1>so not like that. This book is is generous, if

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<v Speaker 1>that makes any sense. And I think I told you

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of reminds me of And I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if anyone out there knows this author named Jean Shepherd

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<v Speaker 1>who wrote all of these stories, a lot of short stories,

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<v Speaker 1>but about his upbringing in the Midwest, and they're freaking

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<v Speaker 1>hilarious because the details are so rich. But so you

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<v Speaker 1>all probably will know that movie A Christmas Story, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>where they get their tongue stuck on the flagpole. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that is based on a Geane Shepherd novel. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just super quirky and like the details. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>I was really impressed by your memory because I did

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<v Speaker 1>have a weird upbringing. But I there's a way that

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<v Speaker 1>I could like harness all of those details. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you probably this was like an exercise in

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<v Speaker 1>in memory, like bringing back memories I had. Thankfully I

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<v Speaker 1>had people I could call because you you do start

0:24:14.320 --> 0:24:16.760
<v Speaker 1>to go, did I make that up? Like you know again,

0:24:16.840 --> 0:24:19.000
<v Speaker 1>look I'm not writing about like Abraham Lincoln, you know

0:24:19.000 --> 0:24:20.880
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. So like I'm sure it's also filtered

0:24:20.920 --> 0:24:23.119
<v Speaker 1>through my point of view or filter from when you

0:24:23.160 --> 0:24:25.520
<v Speaker 1>were a little kid of like what you've heard, what

0:24:25.640 --> 0:24:30.639
<v Speaker 1>people tell you. So so sometimes it's like like the

0:24:30.720 --> 0:24:33.520
<v Speaker 1>family lore or like you know, and you start to

0:24:33.680 --> 0:24:36.439
<v Speaker 1>but many times I kept like did this happen? So

0:24:36.520 --> 0:24:39.240
<v Speaker 1>I would call, you know, like the sex ed chapter,

0:24:39.440 --> 0:24:43.520
<v Speaker 1>I called my friend and I'm like, were we taught

0:24:43.920 --> 0:24:48.280
<v Speaker 1>like about like Cleveland Steamers and like Golden Showers in

0:24:48.480 --> 0:24:51.560
<v Speaker 1>sex ed class in seventh grade when I never hold

0:24:51.600 --> 0:24:53.840
<v Speaker 1>health hands with anybody, and my friend was like, yeah,

0:24:54.040 --> 0:24:56.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, things like that or even the crow. I

0:24:56.320 --> 0:24:58.280
<v Speaker 1>had to go on Facebook page in my town and

0:24:58.320 --> 0:25:00.920
<v Speaker 1>be like, was there a crow? It stole the mail

0:25:01.040 --> 0:25:03.120
<v Speaker 1>and got put under like because it's a federal crime,

0:25:03.200 --> 0:25:06.000
<v Speaker 1>got put under house arrest in our time, you know,

0:25:06.200 --> 0:25:11.080
<v Speaker 1>so look it's yeah, yeah, sorry. I mean I was

0:25:11.119 --> 0:25:13.600
<v Speaker 1>really like how to keep asking because you don't know

0:25:13.640 --> 0:25:15.720
<v Speaker 1>what you're brain like, you start pulling things in the

0:25:15.840 --> 0:25:17.920
<v Speaker 1>deep because sometimes I feel like I don't remember anything.

0:25:17.920 --> 0:25:20.280
<v Speaker 1>And I kept having to like call my brother or

0:25:20.320 --> 0:25:26.040
<v Speaker 1>call people like did this happen? Like this? Reading it,

0:25:26.160 --> 0:25:29.680
<v Speaker 1>when you read it, you're like, holy sh it, this

0:25:29.760 --> 0:25:36.920
<v Speaker 1>is crazy. What card struck? What struck you as crazy? Um? Uh, well,

0:25:37.280 --> 0:25:41.200
<v Speaker 1>my family, the family stuff. Can I read a quote? Yeah,

0:25:41.240 --> 0:25:45.760
<v Speaker 1>you can read anything. Okay, this is from your book. Um,

0:25:45.840 --> 0:25:52.320
<v Speaker 1>you're describing Little Compton. Little Little Compton established two, used

0:25:52.359 --> 0:25:54.800
<v Speaker 1>to have three restaurants, but two of them burned to

0:25:54.840 --> 0:25:59.360
<v Speaker 1>the ground. Currently it has zero stoplights, zero high schools,

0:25:59.720 --> 0:26:02.560
<v Speaker 1>one local doctor who took a ship in the third

0:26:02.600 --> 0:26:06.760
<v Speaker 1>hole at the local golf course, one train car that

0:26:06.800 --> 0:26:09.240
<v Speaker 1>has parked in a field and is inhabited by two

0:26:09.359 --> 0:26:13.959
<v Speaker 1>hundred chickens. One cell phone provider. We just got our

0:26:14.000 --> 0:26:17.479
<v Speaker 1>first cell tower at the town dump and one and

0:26:17.560 --> 0:26:21.280
<v Speaker 1>one toothless elderly lady who smokes a corn top pipe

0:26:21.320 --> 0:26:24.200
<v Speaker 1>and hangs out at the cash register of the general

0:26:24.320 --> 0:26:27.439
<v Speaker 1>store and at home answers the door nude for the

0:26:27.480 --> 0:26:31.600
<v Speaker 1>local delivery boys. So we are no po dunc town. Yeah,

0:26:31.600 --> 0:26:34.440
<v Speaker 1>that's a little that's all accurate. The woman who is

0:26:34.560 --> 0:26:38.359
<v Speaker 1>nude has passed away. She's has passed away. So if

0:26:38.359 --> 0:26:39.960
<v Speaker 1>you wanted to meet her, if you wanted to do

0:26:40.000 --> 0:26:42.840
<v Speaker 1>a delivery, you're gonna be disappointed. There was this woman

0:26:42.880 --> 0:26:46.560
<v Speaker 1>that would hang out at Wilbur's or general store, and

0:26:46.680 --> 0:26:50.960
<v Speaker 1>she and she didn't have a license, and there's no

0:26:51.160 --> 0:26:54.920
<v Speaker 1>grocery stores and there's one store, Wilbur's. It's a general store.

0:26:55.119 --> 0:26:58.080
<v Speaker 1>That's it like an old school established like in the

0:26:58.160 --> 0:27:02.000
<v Speaker 1>seventeen hundreds general store. And so she would have the

0:27:02.560 --> 0:27:06.399
<v Speaker 1>high school students drive groceries to her, and allegedly she

0:27:06.400 --> 0:27:08.960
<v Speaker 1>would answer the door buck naked and she smoked a

0:27:09.000 --> 0:27:16.320
<v Speaker 1>corn cub pipe. Yeah, I mean po crow is like

0:27:16.480 --> 0:27:18.840
<v Speaker 1>what that is that real? And the and the and

0:27:18.880 --> 0:27:22.600
<v Speaker 1>the whole thing about the department store. Boat. So there

0:27:22.720 --> 0:27:25.800
<v Speaker 1>was a boat. So my town has no stores. Um,

0:27:26.040 --> 0:27:30.840
<v Speaker 1>there's there's store right, one general store. There's no clothing stores,

0:27:30.880 --> 0:27:33.040
<v Speaker 1>there's no It sort of looks like an island, it

0:27:33.119 --> 0:27:36.560
<v Speaker 1>kind of. I think it's like similar in land to Nantucket.

0:27:36.600 --> 0:27:39.520
<v Speaker 1>But it doesn't have restaurants or stores, or movie or

0:27:39.560 --> 0:27:43.000
<v Speaker 1>grocery stores or even a gas station anymore. Has like us.

0:27:43.240 --> 0:27:46.199
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I think there was a gas station, but I

0:27:46.240 --> 0:27:48.199
<v Speaker 1>think the gas station got shut down and you have

0:27:48.240 --> 0:27:51.960
<v Speaker 1>to drive to Massachusetts to get your guests. Oh my god,

0:27:52.160 --> 0:27:56.560
<v Speaker 1>is it still like that? Yeah? Yeah, So that's what's

0:27:56.560 --> 0:27:58.879
<v Speaker 1>so great about it. There's one coffee shop that's in

0:27:58.920 --> 0:28:02.199
<v Speaker 1>an apple orchard, a little barn, and that's up in

0:28:02.200 --> 0:28:06.880
<v Speaker 1>the town. Comments. Um. But so there was one day

0:28:07.000 --> 0:28:09.600
<v Speaker 1>I was in will Verse because that's where you go

0:28:10.240 --> 0:28:12.960
<v Speaker 1>and the general store, and one of the fishermen ran

0:28:13.040 --> 0:28:16.399
<v Speaker 1>in and said, there's bears on the beach. There's bears

0:28:16.400 --> 0:28:19.160
<v Speaker 1>on Briggs Beach, And I you know, and you're like, what,

0:28:19.400 --> 0:28:21.720
<v Speaker 1>like and we have like eight beaches because it's a peninsula.

0:28:21.760 --> 0:28:23.159
<v Speaker 1>I was like, what do you mean there's bears on

0:28:23.200 --> 0:28:25.920
<v Speaker 1>the beach. So we raced my friend Robin. She was

0:28:25.920 --> 0:28:27.960
<v Speaker 1>a little older than me. I think I was fourteen sixteen.

0:28:28.040 --> 0:28:30.200
<v Speaker 1>She had a little yellow folks Bagon rabbit. We raced

0:28:30.240 --> 0:28:32.680
<v Speaker 1>out of the beach. Can I wait, Can I interrupt you?

0:28:32.680 --> 0:28:34.399
<v Speaker 1>You said, And this made me. This is one of

0:28:34.440 --> 0:28:36.640
<v Speaker 1>my l o ls is. You're like where he got

0:28:36.640 --> 0:28:39.800
<v Speaker 1>into her Volkswine rabbit that had three three hundred had

0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:43.320
<v Speaker 1>three hundred thousand miles. Yeah, I remember she got it.

0:28:43.400 --> 0:28:45.120
<v Speaker 1>She was like she got it, was like it was

0:28:45.120 --> 0:28:48.040
<v Speaker 1>like five hundred dollars. She saved up her her babysitting money.

0:28:48.240 --> 0:28:50.920
<v Speaker 1>She would they would pile like five hundred younger kids

0:28:50.920 --> 0:28:53.360
<v Speaker 1>in there, no seat belts. We drive to Massachusetts, go

0:28:53.400 --> 0:28:57.479
<v Speaker 1>to the movies like three hundred thousand mile rabbit. So

0:28:57.520 --> 0:29:00.040
<v Speaker 1>we go down to her to the Bigs Beach And

0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:03.600
<v Speaker 1>what was there, Lisa? What was at Briggs Beach? There

0:29:03.640 --> 0:29:08.680
<v Speaker 1>were just teddy bears everywhere. Everywhere the beach was covered

0:29:08.680 --> 0:29:11.880
<v Speaker 1>and teddy bears and all of the townsfolk were just

0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:16.760
<v Speaker 1>going bananas, grabbing teddy bears. And then and then you

0:29:16.840 --> 0:29:19.400
<v Speaker 1>go on to say that the whole there were I

0:29:19.440 --> 0:29:22.640
<v Speaker 1>guess there was a cargo ship and there were like

0:29:22.760 --> 0:29:26.560
<v Speaker 1>every department from the department store Bradley's Bradley's, which is

0:29:26.560 --> 0:29:29.320
<v Speaker 1>like a discount department store, so it's like not fancy,

0:29:29.560 --> 0:29:32.800
<v Speaker 1>it's like it's like there were shoes. I love the

0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:36.640
<v Speaker 1>part about there were white tennis shoes and like navy

0:29:36.680 --> 0:29:40.000
<v Speaker 1>blue pumps with like with missing their mate. It was

0:29:40.040 --> 0:29:42.400
<v Speaker 1>like different, Like there was a women's left shoes around

0:29:42.480 --> 0:29:44.520
<v Speaker 1>one beach and then right shoes or another, and there

0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:46.440
<v Speaker 1>would be swap meets up at the school to get

0:29:46.440 --> 0:29:50.920
<v Speaker 1>like a full evening pair of shoes. Heel, a magenta

0:29:51.000 --> 0:29:55.080
<v Speaker 1>sweatshirts that all the my dad kept wearing. Oh yeah,

0:29:55.320 --> 0:29:58.920
<v Speaker 1>the sweatshirts. Wait, so what did the sweatshirts say? They

0:29:58.920 --> 0:30:00.840
<v Speaker 1>were just teal and the enta. And then there was

0:30:00.880 --> 0:30:03.320
<v Speaker 1>like there was like um snow flake turtle, and like

0:30:03.360 --> 0:30:06.600
<v Speaker 1>there was like and they were clearly they were It

0:30:06.680 --> 0:30:09.360
<v Speaker 1>was like Christmas. I mean, people couldn't so in each

0:30:09.640 --> 0:30:12.360
<v Speaker 1>beach had like a different department, so you'd run down

0:30:12.360 --> 0:30:14.440
<v Speaker 1>to a different beach and then people would be like,

0:30:14.440 --> 0:30:16.640
<v Speaker 1>you gotta go head over the surfer's beach because the

0:30:16.760 --> 0:30:18.960
<v Speaker 1>Surfer's beach they you know. And then some of the

0:30:19.080 --> 0:30:22.400
<v Speaker 1>some of the lobster men would take their boats out.

0:30:22.880 --> 0:30:26.400
<v Speaker 1>It was like these there was the actual shipping container

0:30:26.440 --> 0:30:29.160
<v Speaker 1>was stuck on a rock out in the river. So

0:30:29.160 --> 0:30:31.320
<v Speaker 1>so that so not everything like not ever there was

0:30:31.360 --> 0:30:33.520
<v Speaker 1>some stuff that hadn't washed ashore, and they went out

0:30:33.520 --> 0:30:36.200
<v Speaker 1>and they climbed in the container and there was all

0:30:36.280 --> 0:30:39.200
<v Speaker 1>these like TVs. It was like the Electronic Department. It

0:30:39.240 --> 0:30:42.840
<v Speaker 1>was truly like the gods had given Little Compton a

0:30:42.880 --> 0:30:44.920
<v Speaker 1>mall for the day and it was free, and like

0:30:45.040 --> 0:30:48.080
<v Speaker 1>everybody was site. And there's still if you go rent

0:30:48.640 --> 0:30:50.560
<v Speaker 1>house for the summer, some of the house and you

0:30:50.560 --> 0:30:52.840
<v Speaker 1>can still do that from JJ's old Little Compton real

0:30:52.960 --> 0:30:55.200
<v Speaker 1>Estate for all your summer rental needs. Ask for aid

0:30:55.200 --> 0:31:01.440
<v Speaker 1>Off um after off. But you have a funny you

0:31:01.440 --> 0:31:03.360
<v Speaker 1>have a you have a great line about aid Off

0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:06.239
<v Speaker 1>in there. I said, well, he might be NEI there

0:31:06.280 --> 0:31:09.120
<v Speaker 1>might be some historical bad aidolps. This Aidolf is like

0:31:09.160 --> 0:31:11.440
<v Speaker 1>the nicest guy in the world and I've even seen

0:31:11.480 --> 0:31:13.680
<v Speaker 1>him cry at a funeral. This is the best aid Off.

0:31:15.880 --> 0:31:21.000
<v Speaker 1>He's a great stuff like that is like there's like

0:31:21.400 --> 0:31:26.480
<v Speaker 1>twenty of those funny like weird things per page. It's

0:31:26.520 --> 0:31:28.480
<v Speaker 1>so funny because I mean, I'm sure if you did

0:31:28.480 --> 0:31:33.320
<v Speaker 1>your because you have an unusual upbringing, but like I didn't.

0:31:33.920 --> 0:31:37.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure anybody if you bought details, this was what did.

0:31:37.120 --> 0:31:41.680
<v Speaker 1>I have a very specific, small town specific. And then

0:31:41.720 --> 0:31:45.400
<v Speaker 1>I had a specific because my parents weren't They never dated,

0:31:45.600 --> 0:31:48.280
<v Speaker 1>so they got married on a dare to get vacation time.

0:31:48.560 --> 0:31:51.400
<v Speaker 1>They were co workers trying to get the maximum vacation time.

0:31:51.440 --> 0:31:53.520
<v Speaker 1>You've got two extra weeks if you want on a honeymoon.

0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:56.320
<v Speaker 1>So there was like, so I had the quirkiness of

0:31:57.000 --> 0:32:00.640
<v Speaker 1>two people who had entered into life on a dare

0:32:00.880 --> 0:32:03.680
<v Speaker 1>and then moved from Manhattan to this tiny town. And

0:32:03.720 --> 0:32:06.920
<v Speaker 1>then it's the quirkiness of the town, which again I know,

0:32:07.000 --> 0:32:08.640
<v Speaker 1>this is just how I grew up. But then like

0:32:08.720 --> 0:32:10.120
<v Speaker 1>when you get out in the world, you're like, oh,

0:32:10.160 --> 0:32:15.400
<v Speaker 1>I have an unusual point of view. Yes, how it

0:32:15.440 --> 0:32:19.720
<v Speaker 1>all happened. I mean, you've been talking about your dad.

0:32:19.760 --> 0:32:22.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean I've heard stories about your father Willie for

0:32:23.240 --> 0:32:25.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, as long as I've known you. And yes,

0:32:27.280 --> 0:32:31.320
<v Speaker 1>I've heard of the cookie hammer. Yeah, I think I've

0:32:31.400 --> 0:32:35.040
<v Speaker 1>always told you you've got to talk about your dad

0:32:35.080 --> 0:32:38.200
<v Speaker 1>on stage, more like you've got to do him talk

0:32:38.240 --> 0:32:42.200
<v Speaker 1>about it. It's it's he's Yeah, it's just so hard

0:32:42.240 --> 0:32:48.040
<v Speaker 1>to believe how strange your dad he was, truly. I mean,

0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:51.160
<v Speaker 1>I feel like sometimes I'll tell you what, sometimes I

0:32:51.200 --> 0:32:53.640
<v Speaker 1>feel like I don't know. I have tried over the

0:32:53.720 --> 0:32:56.280
<v Speaker 1>years to talk about him on stage. I think it's

0:32:56.280 --> 0:32:59.080
<v Speaker 1>almost more fun on the page, and maybe it would

0:32:59.080 --> 0:33:01.360
<v Speaker 1>be fun and it's ripped it show as like seeing

0:33:01.360 --> 0:33:04.440
<v Speaker 1>an actor do it. I think that I think people

0:33:04.480 --> 0:33:08.360
<v Speaker 1>almost black out because it almost feels so weird that

0:33:08.400 --> 0:33:11.480
<v Speaker 1>they're like that. They're like, I think then they also

0:33:11.560 --> 0:33:14.440
<v Speaker 1>feel sorry for me and they think they get protective

0:33:14.480 --> 0:33:16.560
<v Speaker 1>of me and they're like, wait, that's your dad. Like

0:33:17.000 --> 0:33:20.920
<v Speaker 1>so that, I think on the page, it's a very

0:33:20.960 --> 0:33:23.440
<v Speaker 1>fun literary character, and I think on a TV show

0:33:23.480 --> 0:33:25.640
<v Speaker 1>he would be a great character. But in stand up

0:33:25.680 --> 0:33:28.200
<v Speaker 1>people are like blackout, like I don't get it, this

0:33:28.280 --> 0:33:32.000
<v Speaker 1>is weird. Well that that's a good point. And he

0:33:32.800 --> 0:33:37.920
<v Speaker 1>your descriptions of him fit in so perfectly in this book.

0:33:38.000 --> 0:33:44.480
<v Speaker 1>It's like, yeah, he's just bizarre character in this bizarre setting. Yea.

0:33:45.360 --> 0:33:49.520
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, and then your mom is like this shining

0:33:49.640 --> 0:33:55.280
<v Speaker 1>light of stability and yeah, I mean she also had

0:33:55.320 --> 0:33:59.840
<v Speaker 1>her quirkies. Yeah, It's interesting. I got, like the word

0:34:00.120 --> 0:34:03.320
<v Speaker 1>an interesting combo, like a poo poo platter of like

0:34:04.240 --> 0:34:15.360
<v Speaker 1>of like this salty odd dude coupled with this incredibly upbeat, organized,

0:34:16.360 --> 0:34:22.040
<v Speaker 1>supportive but like to the point where she just wanted

0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:24.480
<v Speaker 1>to be a mom, which I think is very unusual,

0:34:24.480 --> 0:34:27.160
<v Speaker 1>Like I see how lucky. I don't think I I again,

0:34:27.200 --> 0:34:29.880
<v Speaker 1>I took that he could not have been less interested

0:34:29.920 --> 0:34:32.480
<v Speaker 1>in being a dad as people. So it was like

0:34:32.719 --> 0:34:35.480
<v Speaker 1>I had both ends of the spectrum of like she

0:34:35.520 --> 0:34:38.600
<v Speaker 1>wanted four kids, he wanted zero. They had to and

0:34:38.800 --> 0:34:40.879
<v Speaker 1>they were both open about that, you know what I mean.

0:34:41.160 --> 0:34:43.680
<v Speaker 1>So we were like her kids and he was and

0:34:44.040 --> 0:34:48.839
<v Speaker 1>it was an interesting combo of like the most dismissive

0:34:48.920 --> 0:34:52.800
<v Speaker 1>salty dude and then like if you're night owl the

0:34:52.960 --> 0:34:56.760
<v Speaker 1>kids you can stay up just you know, making your magic.

0:34:56.840 --> 0:34:59.200
<v Speaker 1>And I'm gonna, like, like school starts too early from

0:34:59.239 --> 0:35:01.399
<v Speaker 1>my vampire it, I'm gonna bring him to school at ten,

0:35:01.560 --> 0:35:03.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, just and like she just would bring us

0:35:03.840 --> 0:35:06.520
<v Speaker 1>to school late like stuff like that, where yeah, I

0:35:06.600 --> 0:35:13.920
<v Speaker 1>love that, I love that. I don't know about you,

0:35:13.960 --> 0:35:16.839
<v Speaker 1>but things are getting so hot in here. I think

0:35:16.840 --> 0:35:24.000
<v Speaker 1>I gotta take pity your break, there's a there's a

0:35:24.400 --> 0:35:27.279
<v Speaker 1>something you say in here about your mom and how

0:35:28.960 --> 0:35:32.759
<v Speaker 1>she just something about too messy night owls, you know,

0:35:32.920 --> 0:35:35.920
<v Speaker 1>like she doesn't. She just kind of like accepted it.

0:35:36.120 --> 0:35:39.120
<v Speaker 1>She didn't try to change you guys. And that's whole

0:35:39.160 --> 0:35:41.319
<v Speaker 1>the whole thing about you guys being up all night

0:35:41.920 --> 0:35:44.839
<v Speaker 1>was so funny, dude, we were so my brother. My

0:35:44.880 --> 0:35:49.080
<v Speaker 1>mom was such a virgo organized list maker, like the

0:35:49.160 --> 0:35:53.120
<v Speaker 1>most normal lady. And I think you add, like a

0:35:53.160 --> 0:35:55.680
<v Speaker 1>normal glass of milk, my mom was like a whole

0:35:55.800 --> 0:35:58.319
<v Speaker 1>glass of whole milk, a sixteen ounce glass of whole milk,

0:35:58.560 --> 0:36:00.359
<v Speaker 1>and then you take the jean pool of my dad

0:36:00.680 --> 0:36:02.880
<v Speaker 1>and you just, even like if he wasn't actually parenting,

0:36:02.880 --> 0:36:05.320
<v Speaker 1>you squirt in a little bit of that extra special

0:36:05.320 --> 0:36:09.360
<v Speaker 1>sposhy sauce. I feel like the dad sawce, the genetic

0:36:09.480 --> 0:36:12.239
<v Speaker 1>sauce squirted into the whole milk is what created my

0:36:12.320 --> 0:36:14.520
<v Speaker 1>brother and I because my dad, of course was up

0:36:14.560 --> 0:36:18.440
<v Speaker 1>all night, and so from the time we were infants,

0:36:19.160 --> 0:36:21.000
<v Speaker 1>she was trying to be a good lady and put

0:36:21.000 --> 0:36:23.960
<v Speaker 1>her babies to bed, and my brother Aleric and I

0:36:23.960 --> 0:36:26.799
<v Speaker 1>would just we would literally look drugged out of her

0:36:26.840 --> 0:36:29.600
<v Speaker 1>mind all day and we just like past out all

0:36:29.719 --> 0:36:32.000
<v Speaker 1>day and it still happens. I mean, it doesn't matter

0:36:32.080 --> 0:36:35.200
<v Speaker 1>how tired I am. Once the moon starts coming out.

0:36:35.640 --> 0:36:37.880
<v Speaker 1>She said that, like we would just like spring to

0:36:37.960 --> 0:36:41.080
<v Speaker 1>life and like coup and be like so happy in

0:36:41.120 --> 0:36:44.880
<v Speaker 1>our cribs, like two little raccoons, just so like playful

0:36:44.920 --> 0:36:48.480
<v Speaker 1>and delighted. The later at midnight one like just wide

0:36:48.520 --> 0:36:51.200
<v Speaker 1>awake and perky and wanting to play. And then eventually

0:36:51.280 --> 0:36:53.920
<v Speaker 1>she just give up and was like go to bed,

0:36:54.120 --> 0:36:57.320
<v Speaker 1>like it's the only time of day her kids were alert,

0:36:57.840 --> 0:37:01.200
<v Speaker 1>and uh, and that's it would started day one for

0:37:01.320 --> 0:37:04.000
<v Speaker 1>both of us. I mean, we've just always been wired

0:37:04.640 --> 0:37:08.640
<v Speaker 1>with a reverse cycle. It sucks. That's so. I'm hard.

0:37:08.760 --> 0:37:13.120
<v Speaker 1>That's hard. Can I read this part about you read anything?

0:37:13.160 --> 0:37:18.680
<v Speaker 1>You can read anything. Okay, this is about j J. Calm, unflappable,

0:37:18.800 --> 0:37:23.120
<v Speaker 1>pragmatic and funny mama bear. Janet Marine was a role

0:37:23.200 --> 0:37:25.960
<v Speaker 1>with the punches kind of goal. She was an early bird,

0:37:26.160 --> 0:37:30.799
<v Speaker 1>organized list making virgo who nevertheless embraced and accepted the

0:37:30.800 --> 0:37:33.839
<v Speaker 1>fact that she had given birth to too messy late

0:37:33.920 --> 0:37:38.839
<v Speaker 1>night odd balls. I love that, I know. I mean

0:37:38.880 --> 0:37:42.759
<v Speaker 1>that's what I wanted it to feel. I wanted it

0:37:42.800 --> 0:37:48.880
<v Speaker 1>to feel, you know, like for anybody out there who

0:37:49.920 --> 0:37:51.880
<v Speaker 1>everybody's dealt a certain hand in life, you know what

0:37:52.000 --> 0:37:55.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean. And I feel like most people, most people

0:37:55.280 --> 0:37:58.040
<v Speaker 1>aren't dealt of perfect hand. They just aren't. I it's

0:37:58.160 --> 0:38:00.840
<v Speaker 1>very few people I know are delta prefet tan. I

0:38:00.880 --> 0:38:04.879
<v Speaker 1>don't think I know anyone. I don't trust them, I'm

0:38:04.920 --> 0:38:10.000
<v Speaker 1>not else with them and that and that I don't

0:38:10.040 --> 0:38:11.960
<v Speaker 1>get it. I'm like, wait, you're you don't have like

0:38:12.080 --> 0:38:15.000
<v Speaker 1>voices in your head all like, and I will say

0:38:15.040 --> 0:38:17.080
<v Speaker 1>that like I wanted it to feel hope. And by

0:38:17.080 --> 0:38:19.120
<v Speaker 1>the way, a lot of people don't have somebody like

0:38:19.160 --> 0:38:22.400
<v Speaker 1>my mom like, but that it literally could be anybody.

0:38:22.480 --> 0:38:25.680
<v Speaker 1>It could be that you can overcome because my dad

0:38:25.800 --> 0:38:29.440
<v Speaker 1>was nasty, like he just he just never liked me.

0:38:29.680 --> 0:38:33.640
<v Speaker 1>And that you know, you can even be your own

0:38:33.680 --> 0:38:37.359
<v Speaker 1>person that's accepting of you. It's like like that, you know.

0:38:37.760 --> 0:38:39.480
<v Speaker 1>I used to feel like I say this at the end,

0:38:39.520 --> 0:38:41.560
<v Speaker 1>but I used to feel like a four legged chair

0:38:41.760 --> 0:38:45.080
<v Speaker 1>where one of the legs was broken. And then I realized,

0:38:45.120 --> 0:38:48.880
<v Speaker 1>like there's nothing wrong with being like a three legged stool,

0:38:49.080 --> 0:38:52.200
<v Speaker 1>like and that look, even if it's just yourself, you

0:38:52.239 --> 0:38:55.000
<v Speaker 1>can learn how to like balance on a pogo stick

0:38:55.080 --> 0:38:59.560
<v Speaker 1>like that. It's it's not that it's okay, but that

0:38:59.719 --> 0:39:03.560
<v Speaker 1>like sometimes people just can't do it. And like I

0:39:03.680 --> 0:39:07.640
<v Speaker 1>spent so long trying to chase and like make it okay,

0:39:07.880 --> 0:39:10.359
<v Speaker 1>and it wasn't until I sort of freed myself of like, oh,

0:39:10.400 --> 0:39:14.040
<v Speaker 1>this is never gonna happen, and it never did, like

0:39:14.800 --> 0:39:17.160
<v Speaker 1>I but I sort of freed him. Like you know,

0:39:17.239 --> 0:39:20.360
<v Speaker 1>his mom was tough, and yeah, you know, it wasn't

0:39:20.400 --> 0:39:22.480
<v Speaker 1>like it wasn't an easy ride for him either, But

0:39:22.600 --> 0:39:26.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean I certainly wouldn't wish him on anyone. But like,

0:39:26.000 --> 0:39:28.120
<v Speaker 1>like I was driving myself great at a certain point

0:39:28.120 --> 0:39:31.400
<v Speaker 1>when you're an adult, it's like I have no control

0:39:31.400 --> 0:39:33.080
<v Speaker 1>over what happened to him younger, but like this is

0:39:33.120 --> 0:39:36.000
<v Speaker 1>still affecting me now, and I gotta, I gotta. I

0:39:36.040 --> 0:39:39.400
<v Speaker 1>can't keep chasing this person. That's never It's like Lucy

0:39:39.400 --> 0:39:43.040
<v Speaker 1>and Charlie Brown in the football It's never gonna happen. Yeah,

0:39:43.080 --> 0:39:47.080
<v Speaker 1>And you say, like he some people just don't have

0:39:47.160 --> 0:39:49.920
<v Speaker 1>the ability to love. Yeah, I think he didn't for

0:39:50.040 --> 0:39:53.560
<v Speaker 1>whatever reason. Yeah yeah, yeah, And in a way it's

0:39:53.600 --> 0:39:58.520
<v Speaker 1>like you you're you're having compassion for him. And you know,

0:39:58.600 --> 0:40:01.480
<v Speaker 1>I was asked by a rop quarter who was kind

0:40:01.520 --> 0:40:03.920
<v Speaker 1>of a dick if I'm being very honest, but like

0:40:04.400 --> 0:40:08.279
<v Speaker 1>that's by reporter, of course, it was whatever I was

0:40:08.320 --> 0:40:10.879
<v Speaker 1>asked by reporters, like why don't you write your dad?

0:40:11.040 --> 0:40:14.480
<v Speaker 1>Was like, like this is my story? You know what

0:40:14.560 --> 0:40:16.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, It's like I'm not here, Like, look, it

0:40:16.920 --> 0:40:18.960
<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean that I wasn't affected by the guy. And

0:40:19.000 --> 0:40:21.640
<v Speaker 1>it certainly didn't like it wasn't painful, and there's not

0:40:21.719 --> 0:40:24.319
<v Speaker 1>still you know, there's still marks from like in my

0:40:24.400 --> 0:40:29.840
<v Speaker 1>heart here like there's still but the reality is, what

0:40:29.960 --> 0:40:31.759
<v Speaker 1>good is it gonna? Like you know what I mean,

0:40:31.920 --> 0:40:33.600
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't want to go on a road trip with

0:40:33.640 --> 0:40:37.400
<v Speaker 1>my dad right now, like but like but like he

0:40:37.520 --> 0:40:40.040
<v Speaker 1>just couldn't do it. He couldn't do it. And then look,

0:40:40.120 --> 0:40:42.720
<v Speaker 1>let me also just say, between all of this happening

0:40:42.920 --> 0:40:44.719
<v Speaker 1>and me chatting with you now, there's been a lot

0:40:44.760 --> 0:40:48.040
<v Speaker 1>of like therapy, introspection, group things you don't know, Like

0:40:48.239 --> 0:40:50.960
<v Speaker 1>it's certainly not like the Pollyanna like, there's certainly been

0:40:50.960 --> 0:40:53.560
<v Speaker 1>a lot of feelings around it. It's it's because it

0:40:53.600 --> 0:40:55.959
<v Speaker 1>was driving me crazy trying to get it I didn't

0:40:55.960 --> 0:40:57.920
<v Speaker 1>do it for him. I did it for me because

0:40:58.080 --> 0:41:00.880
<v Speaker 1>I was He wasn't thinking about out it. I was

0:41:00.960 --> 0:41:04.279
<v Speaker 1>the one that was the lunatic trying to like get

0:41:04.320 --> 0:41:07.520
<v Speaker 1>this connection or whatever. So it was I did it

0:41:07.600 --> 0:41:10.600
<v Speaker 1>selfishly because I I was I was like, I can't

0:41:10.600 --> 0:41:15.759
<v Speaker 1>do this anymore. Yeah, And it's interesting. I'm always fascinated

0:41:15.960 --> 0:41:21.920
<v Speaker 1>in in that j J. I mean her sort of

0:41:23.320 --> 0:41:28.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, keep chugging along, uh you know, And is

0:41:29.000 --> 0:41:31.400
<v Speaker 1>that how she managed to just sort of put her

0:41:31.440 --> 0:41:35.520
<v Speaker 1>did she kind of put blinders on to to deal

0:41:35.600 --> 0:41:39.319
<v Speaker 1>with hit him and how he was you know, I've

0:41:39.360 --> 0:41:43.239
<v Speaker 1>thought about that a lot, and I think, you know, well,

0:41:43.280 --> 0:41:45.400
<v Speaker 1>first of all, like love is such a mystery, Like

0:41:45.440 --> 0:41:48.120
<v Speaker 1>I really felt like who knows, Like I really I

0:41:48.200 --> 0:41:51.880
<v Speaker 1>do believe she just like for whatever reason, she loved

0:41:51.920 --> 0:41:54.360
<v Speaker 1>like he treated her differently. They had a different dynamic,

0:41:54.480 --> 0:41:57.400
<v Speaker 1>you know. Um. But I think she also grew up

0:41:57.440 --> 0:42:00.879
<v Speaker 1>in a generation where no and and her family ever

0:42:00.920 --> 0:42:05.799
<v Speaker 1>got divorced and um, and I think it was very

0:42:05.880 --> 0:42:09.319
<v Speaker 1>much like part of the dare. I always wondered, like

0:42:09.360 --> 0:42:10.799
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that they got married on a dare

0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:13.440
<v Speaker 1>until I was like fifteen, and actually was like oh,

0:42:13.480 --> 0:42:16.959
<v Speaker 1>like it was. It was illuminating, like okay, I get

0:42:17.000 --> 0:42:19.160
<v Speaker 1>it now, Like okay that I get, I get. I

0:42:19.200 --> 0:42:23.120
<v Speaker 1>couldn't add up why they were together. And I think

0:42:23.160 --> 0:42:27.480
<v Speaker 1>that she, you know, she so she'd been dumped by

0:42:27.480 --> 0:42:31.600
<v Speaker 1>her college boyfriend the year before, who she loved and

0:42:31.640 --> 0:42:34.920
<v Speaker 1>I and she thought she was an old maid at

0:42:34.960 --> 0:42:37.960
<v Speaker 1>twenty three. And I think it was very much your

0:42:38.040 --> 0:42:40.960
<v Speaker 1>value at that time, Like she literally wore white gloves

0:42:41.000 --> 0:42:43.279
<v Speaker 1>to work like a madman. It got chased around the

0:42:43.280 --> 0:42:46.080
<v Speaker 1>desk by her. So it was a different era. And

0:42:47.239 --> 0:42:50.600
<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, maybe like her, I think her

0:42:50.640 --> 0:42:53.360
<v Speaker 1>heart was fully open with her last boyfriend, who she

0:42:53.560 --> 0:42:55.160
<v Speaker 1>I think she thought was she was going to marry

0:42:55.480 --> 0:42:59.440
<v Speaker 1>and then she got dumped. So again, we've all I've been.

0:43:00.080 --> 0:43:04.279
<v Speaker 1>I know when I've had my heart broken or had

0:43:04.280 --> 0:43:07.440
<v Speaker 1>my ego and had my ego bruised. I think my

0:43:07.520 --> 0:43:10.879
<v Speaker 1>dad was fun. I think she never met anybody like him.

0:43:11.200 --> 0:43:13.360
<v Speaker 1>He was kind of an adventure. The other guy was

0:43:13.360 --> 0:43:15.520
<v Speaker 1>like a safe, nice guy, like he was a little wild.

0:43:15.640 --> 0:43:17.600
<v Speaker 1>He took her down to South America for a month,

0:43:17.640 --> 0:43:20.960
<v Speaker 1>Like it was like, oh yeah, that was like if

0:43:21.000 --> 0:43:22.840
<v Speaker 1>we get married. Like so they went to South America.

0:43:22.880 --> 0:43:24.560
<v Speaker 1>I think he swept her all. I think it was

0:43:24.600 --> 0:43:28.480
<v Speaker 1>like this adventure, that this very good, leave it to

0:43:28.520 --> 0:43:32.120
<v Speaker 1>be for a lady, which it just the dare went

0:43:32.160 --> 0:43:35.439
<v Speaker 1>on too long. But if it hadn't, I wouldn't be here.

0:43:35.520 --> 0:43:38.800
<v Speaker 1>But I do think that I think her blind spot

0:43:38.920 --> 0:43:41.480
<v Speaker 1>was him. I think, you know, and it was sort

0:43:41.480 --> 0:43:44.480
<v Speaker 1>of that what's sort of great about her, which I respect,

0:43:44.560 --> 0:43:47.319
<v Speaker 1>is her sort of you just you know, you just

0:43:47.880 --> 0:43:50.360
<v Speaker 1>she wasn't the most introspective girl. So it was like

0:43:50.400 --> 0:43:52.040
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna go to t J Max and get some

0:43:52.080 --> 0:43:55.359
<v Speaker 1>throw pillows and like, which I respect her sort of

0:43:55.400 --> 0:43:57.919
<v Speaker 1>like on with it, roll up your sleeves, keep going.

0:43:58.560 --> 0:44:01.600
<v Speaker 1>But I think, you know, it was We're definitely a

0:44:01.640 --> 0:44:04.120
<v Speaker 1>generation that talks about our feelings more, I think in

0:44:04.200 --> 0:44:08.480
<v Speaker 1>general in this nation. And I think she just wanted everything.

0:44:08.480 --> 0:44:10.720
<v Speaker 1>It's like it's everything has to sort of look fine

0:44:10.760 --> 0:44:13.200
<v Speaker 1>because that's how she was brought up. I mean, was

0:44:13.239 --> 0:44:15.320
<v Speaker 1>it I know your perild? Are you when your parents

0:44:15.320 --> 0:44:21.040
<v Speaker 1>got divorced? Actually I was in my early twenties. Yeah,

0:44:21.160 --> 0:44:23.280
<v Speaker 1>so they kind of they kind of held that held

0:44:23.280 --> 0:44:26.319
<v Speaker 1>it up, held on for a while. Yeah, and they

0:44:26.360 --> 0:44:29.239
<v Speaker 1>weren't a good match. No, neither of mine really, but

0:44:30.640 --> 0:44:33.960
<v Speaker 1>they had something they I think they did, and Janet

0:44:33.960 --> 0:44:36.600
<v Speaker 1>had something. I agree with you, and I actually feel

0:44:36.640 --> 0:44:39.440
<v Speaker 1>like I actually feel like she missed him, Like I

0:44:39.480 --> 0:44:42.800
<v Speaker 1>actually feel like that's part. I feel like I agree

0:44:42.800 --> 0:44:46.080
<v Speaker 1>with you, and he did treat her, you know what

0:44:46.280 --> 0:44:49.719
<v Speaker 1>I wished for more for her, Yeah, you know, but

0:44:49.800 --> 0:44:53.239
<v Speaker 1>like again, I think as an adult, I spent so

0:44:53.280 --> 0:44:56.000
<v Speaker 1>many years going why it was like, it's kind of

0:44:56.040 --> 0:44:59.520
<v Speaker 1>none of my business. Like at a certain point, love

0:44:59.600 --> 0:45:03.080
<v Speaker 1>is a miss street. It's like who I certainly have

0:45:03.239 --> 0:45:06.920
<v Speaker 1>had a soft spot for somebody that perhaps my friends

0:45:06.920 --> 0:45:12.759
<v Speaker 1>were like wait what oh heck, yeah, same everybody has.

0:45:13.200 --> 0:45:16.560
<v Speaker 1>And I think in like your your mom, Like she

0:45:16.719 --> 0:45:21.640
<v Speaker 1>was happy, you know, she was happy, positive energy, and

0:45:21.680 --> 0:45:25.640
<v Speaker 1>that is such a good That's what we wanted a mother,

0:45:25.880 --> 0:45:30.840
<v Speaker 1>you know. Yeah, I feel for that. Yeah, and the

0:45:30.880 --> 0:45:36.960
<v Speaker 1>fact that she didn't let oh, Willie's you know, you know,

0:45:37.040 --> 0:45:40.520
<v Speaker 1>emotional absence get her down or whatever, just his lack

0:45:40.560 --> 0:45:43.600
<v Speaker 1>of interest in fathering. And I think she was happy

0:45:43.640 --> 0:45:45.399
<v Speaker 1>to have my brother and I to herself. I mean,

0:45:45.440 --> 0:45:49.200
<v Speaker 1>like we had the best time. I mean truly, we

0:45:49.200 --> 0:45:51.840
<v Speaker 1>were the three Musketeers. We like when it was just

0:45:51.880 --> 0:45:56.160
<v Speaker 1>like we laughed. We it was like it was we

0:45:56.360 --> 0:45:59.759
<v Speaker 1>just laughed and laughed. My brother is amazing, he's and

0:45:59.800 --> 0:46:02.359
<v Speaker 1>he is going to be at the show. He's completely

0:46:02.600 --> 0:46:05.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean you've met my brother. It's like on the

0:46:05.280 --> 0:46:09.160
<v Speaker 1>outside we seem like polar opposite and yet we are

0:46:09.239 --> 0:46:12.520
<v Speaker 1>like Yin and yang. We're completely created by the same

0:46:13.640 --> 0:46:16.759
<v Speaker 1>like the same maker created both of us were fully J. J.

0:46:16.920 --> 0:46:21.200
<v Speaker 1>Marines creations. Because she really fanned into us. Not in

0:46:21.239 --> 0:46:24.560
<v Speaker 1>a way that was like all my kids deserved trophies,

0:46:24.800 --> 0:46:27.839
<v Speaker 1>but it was like, what makes your tail wag? What's

0:46:27.880 --> 0:46:30.719
<v Speaker 1>your special gift protected? You don't need to go to

0:46:30.760 --> 0:46:33.400
<v Speaker 1>fancy college. You don't, It doesn't it's not about the

0:46:33.440 --> 0:46:36.240
<v Speaker 1>fancy stuff. What's your special gift to give to the world.

0:46:36.360 --> 0:46:38.759
<v Speaker 1>And and my brother, he has a different path, but

0:46:38.800 --> 0:46:42.640
<v Speaker 1>he's completely created by the same person. Yeah, thank god.

0:46:42.800 --> 0:46:47.360
<v Speaker 1>She really she balanced it out, like she tipped the

0:46:47.400 --> 0:46:53.279
<v Speaker 1>scale you know, to loving, nurturing, supportive, and and then

0:46:53.280 --> 0:46:54.879
<v Speaker 1>she butter. But she was hard, I mean, like her

0:46:55.080 --> 0:46:57.360
<v Speaker 1>her number one rule in life was don't be a drip.

0:46:57.640 --> 0:46:59.879
<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, no, I could see that being hard too

0:47:00.200 --> 0:47:02.399
<v Speaker 1>as a kid, Like we can't sit around and feel

0:47:02.440 --> 0:47:04.759
<v Speaker 1>sorry for ourselves because sometimes you just need to sit

0:47:04.800 --> 0:47:07.520
<v Speaker 1>around and feel sorry for yourself. Oh no, trust in that,

0:47:07.760 --> 0:47:10.480
<v Speaker 1>like no, yeah, there's no. It's like you gotta get on,

0:47:10.760 --> 0:47:12.400
<v Speaker 1>get over it and get on with it. It's a

0:47:12.480 --> 0:47:17.040
<v Speaker 1>very new England side. Yeah. Yeah. Can we talk about

0:47:17.040 --> 0:47:21.440
<v Speaker 1>Alaric's head? Yes, so we can take what sheeaty head? God,

0:47:21.560 --> 0:47:24.279
<v Speaker 1>that cracks me out. You want to describe for our

0:47:24.280 --> 0:47:28.120
<v Speaker 1>listeners what cheaty head is? Well? When Aleric, Well, first

0:47:28.160 --> 0:47:31.000
<v Speaker 1>of all, you describe Aleric. He's wearing when he's like

0:47:31.080 --> 0:47:34.480
<v Speaker 1>how old he's wearing like giant businessman glasses. So he

0:47:34.680 --> 0:47:36.480
<v Speaker 1>was born blind in one eye. So even he's one

0:47:36.520 --> 0:47:38.759
<v Speaker 1>of those babies like which I love a baby and

0:47:38.800 --> 0:47:42.800
<v Speaker 1>a pair of glasses. And his eye was like literally

0:47:42.800 --> 0:47:44.440
<v Speaker 1>like when I was looking at you, and the other

0:47:44.480 --> 0:47:47.360
<v Speaker 1>eye was looking at like to like you know, and

0:47:47.400 --> 0:47:49.200
<v Speaker 1>so they it wasn't until it was like two that

0:47:49.239 --> 0:47:51.640
<v Speaker 1>they had surgically corrected that they both would look at you.

0:47:52.000 --> 0:47:54.120
<v Speaker 1>But at back in the day, they didn't they didn't

0:47:54.120 --> 0:47:56.480
<v Speaker 1>know how to like because his eyesight was so bad,

0:47:56.520 --> 0:47:59.360
<v Speaker 1>they didn't know how to like thin out the lenses.

0:47:59.400 --> 0:48:03.200
<v Speaker 1>So it's the largest businessman like a toddler and full

0:48:03.800 --> 0:48:09.120
<v Speaker 1>like thick businessman coke blah blah glasses, Are you kidding me?

0:48:09.520 --> 0:48:13.520
<v Speaker 1>The cutest thing, huge head, and he had a melon head.

0:48:13.560 --> 0:48:16.680
<v Speaker 1>He had a giant knock. He has a huge head.

0:48:16.800 --> 0:48:18.799
<v Speaker 1>The best part was my mom. He also was born

0:48:18.960 --> 0:48:22.239
<v Speaker 1>bald on top with like with like long monk hair,

0:48:22.640 --> 0:48:26.560
<v Speaker 1>and my mom, my mom later on confess she was

0:48:26.640 --> 0:48:29.040
<v Speaker 1>like that, you're I mean, I don't have kids. But

0:48:29.160 --> 0:48:31.160
<v Speaker 1>she's like, she's like, your chemicals are so bad. Ship

0:48:31.239 --> 0:48:34.040
<v Speaker 1>when you give it, she goes, I couldn't believe I

0:48:34.080 --> 0:48:38.400
<v Speaker 1>had given birth to the most beautiful baby, everything given.

0:48:39.080 --> 0:48:41.200
<v Speaker 1>She was like, I really didn't realize that one I

0:48:41.400 --> 0:48:43.479
<v Speaker 1>was looking the wrong way. And he had like a

0:48:43.520 --> 0:48:47.640
<v Speaker 1>full head of like monk hair. But like so his

0:48:47.719 --> 0:48:51.680
<v Speaker 1>head was so large that she would catch him just leaning.

0:48:51.680 --> 0:48:54.279
<v Speaker 1>And she also didn't know he was anemic, so she

0:48:54.400 --> 0:48:56.560
<v Speaker 1>just thought he was really mellow as a baby. Like

0:48:56.600 --> 0:48:58.880
<v Speaker 1>she didn't know it was complete iron deficiency, that he

0:48:58.960 --> 0:49:01.080
<v Speaker 1>just sat still all because he had no iron and

0:49:01.200 --> 0:49:04.840
<v Speaker 1>him and they didn't know that. So he so but

0:49:05.000 --> 0:49:08.040
<v Speaker 1>she saw him was like a toddler, even as she

0:49:08.080 --> 0:49:10.879
<v Speaker 1>would find him and hit him, resting his gigantic head

0:49:10.920 --> 0:49:13.800
<v Speaker 1>on a table and she'd be like, Aleric, are you okay,

0:49:13.840 --> 0:49:15.759
<v Speaker 1>And she's like, He's like, it's just so heavy, it's

0:49:15.760 --> 0:49:17.480
<v Speaker 1>so big, you don't know how hard it just to

0:49:17.520 --> 0:49:21.600
<v Speaker 1>hold it up. So, by the way, yeah, cutest fucking

0:49:21.680 --> 0:49:26.160
<v Speaker 1>kid you've ever seen, like just adorable, huge head, giant glasses, genius.

0:49:26.520 --> 0:49:30.319
<v Speaker 1>So yes, So he had glasses, businessman glasses. He's about

0:49:30.360 --> 0:49:31.800
<v Speaker 1>probably at this point with sheet he had, he was

0:49:31.800 --> 0:49:35.239
<v Speaker 1>probably like four. Oh. So he's just a cute little

0:49:35.320 --> 0:49:38.960
<v Speaker 1>four year old with a giant head and glasses. And

0:49:39.200 --> 0:49:43.960
<v Speaker 1>he created a sort of invisible friend or no, I

0:49:44.000 --> 0:49:46.800
<v Speaker 1>guess it was like he basically had a crib sheet

0:49:47.480 --> 0:49:51.640
<v Speaker 1>white a white crib sheet, a fitted crib sheet, crib

0:49:51.719 --> 0:49:54.480
<v Speaker 1>sheet that he would put over his head and with

0:49:54.520 --> 0:49:58.640
<v Speaker 1>the elastic part on his forehead and there's a photo

0:49:58.680 --> 0:50:00.680
<v Speaker 1>in the book and he would on and he could

0:50:00.800 --> 0:50:03.040
<v Speaker 1>use it like a cape or a cloak, or if

0:50:03.040 --> 0:50:04.920
<v Speaker 1>he got scared, he could roll up into it like

0:50:04.960 --> 0:50:06.640
<v Speaker 1>a ball and nobody could see him. He could be

0:50:06.719 --> 0:50:09.880
<v Speaker 1>a ghost. And it was like his it's equivalent of

0:50:09.920 --> 0:50:12.640
<v Speaker 1>like his blankie or his banky, but it was called

0:50:12.680 --> 0:50:18.000
<v Speaker 1>sheety head and it was very versatile and he would

0:50:18.040 --> 0:50:19.560
<v Speaker 1>run with it like a cape. And then there's this

0:50:19.640 --> 0:50:22.399
<v Speaker 1>story in the book of how the day Sheety had,

0:50:22.560 --> 0:50:24.920
<v Speaker 1>my mom had had enough of Sheety had, and it

0:50:25.000 --> 0:50:26.759
<v Speaker 1>was tough for Sheet. He had to go missing when

0:50:26.760 --> 0:50:29.560
<v Speaker 1>they took the ferry to go see my grandparents. If

0:50:29.600 --> 0:50:31.160
<v Speaker 1>it's time for sheet, he had to go buy she

0:50:31.200 --> 0:50:34.239
<v Speaker 1>because she'd had enough of her she. Like that's the

0:50:34.280 --> 0:50:36.680
<v Speaker 1>thing about j J. I feel like parents today are

0:50:36.719 --> 0:50:38.480
<v Speaker 1>just so accepting of their kids. She's like, I don't

0:50:38.480 --> 0:50:40.759
<v Speaker 1>want no weird o kid running around, no Sheety Like

0:50:40.800 --> 0:50:43.480
<v Speaker 1>it was just like so eighties good ome with it,

0:50:43.600 --> 0:50:45.960
<v Speaker 1>Like that's a little weird for me. Don't be a drip. Okay,

0:50:45.960 --> 0:50:47.920
<v Speaker 1>we're taking that freaking Sheety head off your head. Like

0:50:48.480 --> 0:50:50.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. I'm not on my watch. Yeah,

0:50:50.719 --> 0:50:53.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know there's it's like that's why there's

0:50:53.120 --> 0:50:56.840
<v Speaker 1>like an age where you know, you kind of gotta

0:50:56.840 --> 0:50:59.480
<v Speaker 1>stop breastfeeding at a certain age, like you gotta you

0:50:59.560 --> 0:51:02.120
<v Speaker 1>gotta gotta throw sheet he had away at some point.

0:51:02.280 --> 0:51:05.720
<v Speaker 1>Can we discuss my favorite story about you and breastfeeding?

0:51:05.880 --> 0:51:09.359
<v Speaker 1>Can we discuss a friend of yours who was breastfeeding

0:51:09.480 --> 0:51:12.759
<v Speaker 1>there like adult child on New Year's Eve and you like,

0:51:12.840 --> 0:51:15.680
<v Speaker 1>hooked up with somebody. It was like New Year's Day.

0:51:15.880 --> 0:51:18.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh it was. It was New Year's Day. We were

0:51:18.040 --> 0:51:21.600
<v Speaker 1>sitting at we were sitting at an outdoor cafe. Yeah,

0:51:21.840 --> 0:51:26.319
<v Speaker 1>and he said he wanted to, you know, breastfeed. He said,

0:51:26.320 --> 0:51:30.719
<v Speaker 1>it's like in a complete sentence. Yeah, he requested it.

0:51:31.360 --> 0:51:34.120
<v Speaker 1>And she was like, you know, she's trying to wean

0:51:34.200 --> 0:51:37.160
<v Speaker 1>him off. And she was like, well, if you're gonna

0:51:37.200 --> 0:51:39.520
<v Speaker 1>do it, you have to, you know, go under the

0:51:39.560 --> 0:51:44.160
<v Speaker 1>blanket because people will think it's inappropriate. Basically five or

0:51:44.200 --> 0:51:47.080
<v Speaker 1>six at this point, he's like five. I think he

0:51:47.160 --> 0:51:50.280
<v Speaker 1>was like maybe four and a half or something. Okay, okay,

0:51:51.239 --> 0:51:54.160
<v Speaker 1>but he was talking. Yeah, I mean he's he's a dog.

0:51:54.239 --> 0:51:58.480
<v Speaker 1>I love this child, and I love I love his parents. Um,

0:51:58.520 --> 0:52:01.320
<v Speaker 1>but I was we were I was telling them about

0:52:01.360 --> 0:52:05.359
<v Speaker 1>these two guys that I had been dating. Um, and

0:52:05.440 --> 0:52:10.120
<v Speaker 1>I was describing one and then she my friend, you know,

0:52:10.160 --> 0:52:11.880
<v Speaker 1>we aren't you talking about sleeping with one of them?

0:52:11.920 --> 0:52:13.880
<v Speaker 1>I think you were talking about sleeping with one of them, Like,

0:52:13.920 --> 0:52:15.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think you know, I was. Yeah, I

0:52:15.680 --> 0:52:19.160
<v Speaker 1>was talking to my adult friends without Yeah, some you

0:52:19.200 --> 0:52:22.200
<v Speaker 1>know dating story, like I had hooked up with somebody

0:52:22.239 --> 0:52:26.319
<v Speaker 1>and not even dating. Yeah, it was anyway. So then

0:52:26.440 --> 0:52:28.440
<v Speaker 1>she told him he needs to take a nap, and

0:52:28.480 --> 0:52:31.359
<v Speaker 1>he was like, but I want to hear about the

0:52:31.400 --> 0:52:37.520
<v Speaker 1>other guy. Yes, that to me, And I was like,

0:52:37.600 --> 0:52:40.480
<v Speaker 1>did he just wait? Is he he was listening? He

0:52:40.680 --> 0:52:43.359
<v Speaker 1>was listening. He wanted to know about He wanted don't

0:52:43.400 --> 0:52:47.000
<v Speaker 1>know about bachelor number two behind the second door. The

0:52:47.080 --> 0:52:50.520
<v Speaker 1>first one had taken you home, but what he wanted

0:52:50.560 --> 0:52:52.840
<v Speaker 1>to know about bachelor number two. He didn't listen to

0:52:52.920 --> 0:52:55.480
<v Speaker 1>the whole thing. And he is one of those kids

0:52:55.560 --> 0:52:58.600
<v Speaker 1>that loves talking to grown ups, which is so cute.

0:52:59.440 --> 0:53:02.680
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, there's a there is a story for your book.

0:53:02.920 --> 0:53:05.960
<v Speaker 1>You that is a great and your dad, your dad

0:53:06.080 --> 0:53:09.680
<v Speaker 1>is um a different kind of quirky dead but I'm

0:53:09.680 --> 0:53:13.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna say equally as quirky. Gary Lise has been to

0:53:13.360 --> 0:53:16.880
<v Speaker 1>Burning Man with her dad. Her dad has built this

0:53:17.000 --> 0:53:18.920
<v Speaker 1>loft of this is the coolest thing out of like

0:53:18.960 --> 0:53:21.400
<v Speaker 1>a warehouse. Or he's like, will did this stage and

0:53:21.520 --> 0:53:27.560
<v Speaker 1>hosted raves and Gary's Gary and Willie are like equally

0:53:27.800 --> 0:53:33.000
<v Speaker 1>quirky on different journeys. It would be so priceless if

0:53:33.280 --> 0:53:36.399
<v Speaker 1>those two men could have been in the same room

0:53:36.560 --> 0:53:41.480
<v Speaker 1>they would have loved each other. I think, oh my god,

0:53:41.640 --> 0:53:43.839
<v Speaker 1>are you By the way, if you weren't Willie's kid,

0:53:44.440 --> 0:53:46.759
<v Speaker 1>everybody loved Willie. It was this hard. You just don't

0:53:46.760 --> 0:53:49.279
<v Speaker 1>want to be a kid. That was. Yeah that you

0:53:49.320 --> 0:53:52.640
<v Speaker 1>talked about that in the book to oh the work

0:53:52.680 --> 0:53:56.319
<v Speaker 1>ethics thing. Uh, you know your mom had this great

0:53:56.360 --> 0:54:01.120
<v Speaker 1>work ethic and she became a real estate agent. Yeah,

0:54:01.320 --> 0:54:03.880
<v Speaker 1>but your dad basically like once you guys knew us

0:54:03.920 --> 0:54:07.239
<v Speaker 1>a little Compton was just like retired, you know, at

0:54:07.280 --> 0:54:13.680
<v Speaker 1>like thirty, at like thirty, did your mom supporting he?

0:54:13.880 --> 0:54:17.560
<v Speaker 1>I was Again, you're like it was at New England

0:54:17.600 --> 0:54:20.200
<v Speaker 1>house without a lot of information, so you're like sort

0:54:20.239 --> 0:54:24.160
<v Speaker 1>of a little kid piecing it together. I get the feeling.

0:54:25.560 --> 0:54:28.399
<v Speaker 1>You know, they bought their house for not a ton

0:54:28.440 --> 0:54:33.120
<v Speaker 1>of money, you know it was and so he had

0:54:33.280 --> 0:54:35.160
<v Speaker 1>enough of a little hit, a little bit of money

0:54:35.200 --> 0:54:44.560
<v Speaker 1>that would cover enough to cover himself. So so j J,

0:54:45.280 --> 0:54:48.439
<v Speaker 1>so j J went to work and would she liked

0:54:48.440 --> 0:54:51.200
<v Speaker 1>because she liked working. She was a working gal and

0:54:51.680 --> 0:54:54.800
<v Speaker 1>she got her because there's not that many business choices

0:54:54.920 --> 0:54:58.000
<v Speaker 1>in Little Compton. You're like a cop or a lobster men,

0:54:58.080 --> 0:54:59.840
<v Speaker 1>or you work at the gas station or you're a plumber.

0:55:00.120 --> 0:55:03.840
<v Speaker 1>So she sold houses, which was which is great, and

0:55:04.200 --> 0:55:07.759
<v Speaker 1>he but she would pay. She paid for Alaric and

0:55:07.800 --> 0:55:12.680
<v Speaker 1>I and herself. And then your dad decided at one

0:55:12.680 --> 0:55:15.520
<v Speaker 1>point in sixties to go back to work just during

0:55:15.600 --> 0:55:18.279
<v Speaker 1>tax season because he was a c p A. He

0:55:18.440 --> 0:55:20.160
<v Speaker 1>was a c p A. He went back to work

0:55:20.200 --> 0:55:24.799
<v Speaker 1>three months a year at he was at an all

0:55:24.920 --> 0:55:28.279
<v Speaker 1>ladies accounting firm. And it was the most fascinating thing

0:55:28.360 --> 0:55:32.880
<v Speaker 1>because what was his persona at work, Lisa. He was

0:55:32.960 --> 0:55:38.080
<v Speaker 1>like this teddy bear who like you know, he talked

0:55:38.280 --> 0:55:42.400
<v Speaker 1>to the you know, gave the girls dating advice, and

0:55:42.440 --> 0:55:45.839
<v Speaker 1>he brought them brought them baby shower gifts and like

0:55:46.320 --> 0:55:52.800
<v Speaker 1>they love He was like a sweetheart. They loved him

0:55:52.800 --> 0:55:59.520
<v Speaker 1>so bizarre, so bizarre quit Honestly, That's why I really believe,

0:56:00.320 --> 0:56:02.320
<v Speaker 1>And in the book I've got like a few little

0:56:02.360 --> 0:56:05.080
<v Speaker 1>tips in there. I really believe work is good for

0:56:05.120 --> 0:56:09.040
<v Speaker 1>the soul. I really believe, even like a a B

0:56:09.360 --> 0:56:11.360
<v Speaker 1>job or I don't believe there's a B job. I

0:56:11.360 --> 0:56:15.160
<v Speaker 1>think it's all one that like it's good to go

0:56:15.239 --> 0:56:17.920
<v Speaker 1>connect with people. It makes you feel good about yourself,

0:56:18.080 --> 0:56:22.320
<v Speaker 1>and that particularly if you're you know, in the creative

0:56:22.920 --> 0:56:26.600
<v Speaker 1>his arts, and like, you know, when we started in

0:56:26.640 --> 0:56:29.160
<v Speaker 1>New York and everybody had day jobs and you know

0:56:29.920 --> 0:56:33.840
<v Speaker 1>everybody and so um, I wasn't. It wasn't until I

0:56:33.880 --> 0:56:35.360
<v Speaker 1>moved out here that I was like, where does it?

0:56:35.400 --> 0:56:37.520
<v Speaker 1>What does everybody? How do people pay their bills? And

0:56:37.560 --> 0:56:40.240
<v Speaker 1>so but that, but that if you have at least

0:56:40.239 --> 0:56:42.480
<v Speaker 1>if you know that you can pay next month's rent,

0:56:42.760 --> 0:56:44.759
<v Speaker 1>so that when you go on on audition or you're

0:56:44.960 --> 0:56:47.160
<v Speaker 1>touring as a musician, or if you have a painting

0:56:47.160 --> 0:56:49.480
<v Speaker 1>you want to soul, whatever your deal is, that you're

0:56:49.480 --> 0:56:52.399
<v Speaker 1>not demanding that you need to book that job. You're

0:56:52.400 --> 0:56:54.360
<v Speaker 1>not demanding so much of your art that like it

0:56:54.440 --> 0:56:57.839
<v Speaker 1>adds that frenzy into it that if you know your

0:56:58.040 --> 0:57:01.520
<v Speaker 1>bills are covered, it it's like, all there's no shame

0:57:01.560 --> 0:57:03.759
<v Speaker 1>in that game to me, And I think I got

0:57:03.760 --> 0:57:08.000
<v Speaker 1>that from my mom totally. And I always felt that way,

0:57:08.040 --> 0:57:11.600
<v Speaker 1>like I never wanted to to depend solely on my

0:57:11.800 --> 0:57:14.640
<v Speaker 1>art for my income because it just put too much

0:57:14.680 --> 0:57:16.720
<v Speaker 1>pressure on it, and then it made it not fun.

0:57:17.440 --> 0:57:20.120
<v Speaker 1>Then it was super stressful and desperate in a way,

0:57:20.200 --> 0:57:23.080
<v Speaker 1>you know too, and then you get isolated when you're

0:57:23.120 --> 0:57:25.640
<v Speaker 1>not out working and like and I also think as

0:57:25.680 --> 0:57:28.760
<v Speaker 1>a creative person. Look, I didn't want to go do

0:57:28.880 --> 0:57:31.880
<v Speaker 1>stand up and a dog casino, but then you get

0:57:31.920 --> 0:57:34.160
<v Speaker 1>the funny story of doing stand up and it done.

0:57:34.400 --> 0:57:37.120
<v Speaker 1>Like I feel like no matter what you're what your

0:57:37.520 --> 0:57:41.280
<v Speaker 1>medium is, all of your interactions. You know, if you're

0:57:41.320 --> 0:57:44.360
<v Speaker 1>working at a mailbox place, you got the crazy customer. Like,

0:57:44.520 --> 0:57:48.800
<v Speaker 1>anything you're doing I think keeps you engaged enough that

0:57:49.720 --> 0:57:57.440
<v Speaker 1>you it can be creative fuel for whatever you're working on. Absolutely,

0:57:57.920 --> 0:58:01.440
<v Speaker 1>and I will say about your book, you know, not

0:58:01.520 --> 0:58:04.840
<v Speaker 1>only is it like fun and entertaining and hilarious and

0:58:04.960 --> 0:58:08.880
<v Speaker 1>heart in heartfelt there I love that the there's like

0:58:09.960 --> 0:58:15.480
<v Speaker 1>nuggets of wisdom peppered throughout. And You've I've always you know,

0:58:15.920 --> 0:58:18.680
<v Speaker 1>you've given I. I still think about your nuggets of

0:58:18.680 --> 0:58:21.560
<v Speaker 1>wisdom that you like, Uh, you told me what you

0:58:21.600 --> 0:58:23.960
<v Speaker 1>know because you know I've had some bad luck with dating.

0:58:24.640 --> 0:58:27.880
<v Speaker 1>What is the other guy? Like? Like, yeah, I've had

0:58:27.920 --> 0:58:32.520
<v Speaker 1>a bad picker. Oh until very recently have I started

0:58:32.560 --> 0:58:36.200
<v Speaker 1>actually refining my picker. It's hard to refine the picture.

0:58:37.040 --> 0:58:40.360
<v Speaker 1>It's hard. It's hard. One of the things I remember

0:58:40.400 --> 0:58:43.880
<v Speaker 1>you telling me that I've always actually stuck to is

0:58:44.560 --> 0:58:47.080
<v Speaker 1>I think you said like in the first three months maybe,

0:58:47.200 --> 0:58:52.240
<v Speaker 1>or don't talk about your family stuff and don't don't

0:58:52.240 --> 0:58:56.600
<v Speaker 1>talk about x X I I I get and I

0:58:56.640 --> 0:58:58.880
<v Speaker 1>feel like one of the things I wanted to write

0:58:58.880 --> 0:59:02.360
<v Speaker 1>in the book in a fun way, but because I

0:59:02.360 --> 0:59:04.840
<v Speaker 1>I grew up with this odd road map and there

0:59:04.880 --> 0:59:07.400
<v Speaker 1>was so much great stuff, I got a real belief

0:59:07.440 --> 0:59:09.520
<v Speaker 1>in going for it and creative stuff. But like as

0:59:09.520 --> 0:59:12.480
<v Speaker 1>far as like personal life, my parents married on a dare,

0:59:12.640 --> 0:59:15.440
<v Speaker 1>my roadmap was nuts, Like I didn't know how to

0:59:15.480 --> 0:59:19.640
<v Speaker 1>set boundaries with friends or with guys, Like there were

0:59:19.720 --> 0:59:23.120
<v Speaker 1>certain parts of adulthood I didn't know how to do.

0:59:23.240 --> 0:59:26.920
<v Speaker 1>And I feel like i've actually really it's been like

0:59:26.960 --> 0:59:29.919
<v Speaker 1>a student of like a happy life and really really

0:59:29.920 --> 0:59:31.880
<v Speaker 1>worked out because I again growing up in this tiny

0:59:31.920 --> 0:59:33.880
<v Speaker 1>town with the general like I really had to learn

0:59:33.960 --> 0:59:36.880
<v Speaker 1>almost like a cult member coming out into society, like

0:59:37.200 --> 0:59:39.320
<v Speaker 1>how do I do this? And so there's a lot

0:59:39.360 --> 0:59:41.120
<v Speaker 1>of stuff in the book take it, take what you

0:59:41.240 --> 0:59:44.600
<v Speaker 1>likely with the rest, but that um, yeah. So one

0:59:44.640 --> 0:59:47.080
<v Speaker 1>of the things was I think because I did grow

0:59:47.160 --> 0:59:50.120
<v Speaker 1>up with sort of a tough dad, I felt like, secretly,

0:59:50.800 --> 0:59:52.800
<v Speaker 1>you know what I believed I had a lot of shame.

0:59:52.880 --> 0:59:54.680
<v Speaker 1>I felt like a lot. I believed a lot of

0:59:54.680 --> 0:59:57.120
<v Speaker 1>what he told me about myself. And so I was

0:59:57.200 --> 1:00:00.200
<v Speaker 1>afraid that if you met me at a part and

1:00:00.200 --> 1:00:02.080
<v Speaker 1>I seem fun and sparkly, but if you got to

1:00:02.200 --> 1:00:04.720
<v Speaker 1>know me, there was like some darkness. I was worried

1:00:04.720 --> 1:00:07.640
<v Speaker 1>that I'd scare people off. And and so I would

1:00:07.680 --> 1:00:10.680
<v Speaker 1>almost like trauma bond. So it's like I always just

1:00:10.720 --> 1:00:13.520
<v Speaker 1>wanted to tell people right away or tell people like

1:00:13.720 --> 1:00:16.160
<v Speaker 1>and I almost use it as like this connection or

1:00:16.520 --> 1:00:20.400
<v Speaker 1>have somebody screwed me over my bed or whatever, And

1:00:20.480 --> 1:00:25.120
<v Speaker 1>like I learned, like why then you just keep perpetuating

1:00:25.160 --> 1:00:27.760
<v Speaker 1>the same thing over and over. You're mostly just interacting

1:00:27.760 --> 1:00:31.200
<v Speaker 1>with yourself, you know. So so it's like why I

1:00:31.280 --> 1:00:33.200
<v Speaker 1>give this person in front of you the dignity of

1:00:33.200 --> 1:00:36.320
<v Speaker 1>their own experience, that it's not every person you've ever dated,

1:00:36.440 --> 1:00:39.080
<v Speaker 1>it's not every person. They're not out to get you,

1:00:39.640 --> 1:00:42.200
<v Speaker 1>like why I have a blank slate and like and

1:00:42.240 --> 1:00:43.800
<v Speaker 1>I and at first I did not know what to

1:00:43.840 --> 1:00:46.600
<v Speaker 1>talk about. So I would have to go see I

1:00:46.600 --> 1:00:48.680
<v Speaker 1>would go see like documentaries, and then I would go

1:00:48.720 --> 1:00:50.600
<v Speaker 1>to like museum exhibits, and I would just find like

1:00:50.840 --> 1:00:53.080
<v Speaker 1>literally what do you talk about if you're not trauma bonding?

1:00:53.720 --> 1:00:57.240
<v Speaker 1>So it was like it was retraining my brain. I

1:00:57.280 --> 1:00:59.560
<v Speaker 1>didn't know how to do it, but just to see

1:00:59.600 --> 1:01:02.080
<v Speaker 1>if you like each other, like not everybody used to

1:01:02.080 --> 1:01:05.400
<v Speaker 1>know all your secrets right away, Like and it's not

1:01:05.640 --> 1:01:08.000
<v Speaker 1>all about the negative everybody that's ever screwed you over.

1:01:08.040 --> 1:01:10.480
<v Speaker 1>It's so glass half empty, you're almost just setting it

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<v Speaker 1>up to happen again, you know. So true, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's just so common, it's hard. When we were

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<v Speaker 1>watching The Bachelor, we commented on that like all the girls,

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<v Speaker 1>the first thing out of their mouth is, oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>was abused and the terrible thing, and they couldn't wait

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<v Speaker 1>to tell the guy. Well, and I'm sure the producers

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<v Speaker 1>are like, that's your hook, you know, And I was

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<v Speaker 1>like okay, like uh yeah, it's an interest, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's And again I think part of going back to

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<v Speaker 1>that rude reporter, it's like I can't help what was

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<v Speaker 1>said to me. That's not about me, Like the core

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<v Speaker 1>of who I am isn't everything bad that's ever happened

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<v Speaker 1>to me. Like it's a much more positive experience than that,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I that's that's not my problem, Like it definitely

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<v Speaker 1>affected me, and I got like it hurt, but like

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<v Speaker 1>that's about the person that's doing that's not me. So

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<v Speaker 1>why would I spend my whole book doing that? What

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<v Speaker 1>did the reporters say? Yeah, I think he wanted me

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<v Speaker 1>to like be harder on my dad. And I just said, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I just had to figure out what book

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<v Speaker 1>am I writing. This isn't Angela's ashes. I give enough

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<v Speaker 1>to know, Like I give enough to know, like this

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<v Speaker 1>is not the Father of the Year, but like that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's not that's not this is a hopeful book. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a positive book. And like I don't need to

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<v Speaker 1>I am not the some of my war stories and

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<v Speaker 1>nor are you. Everybody's had stuff happen, and like if

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<v Speaker 1>all you do is amplify the negatives and it's not

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<v Speaker 1>just pretended didn't happen, but like but like I actually

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<v Speaker 1>every life turned out pretty good. I'm okay, Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>that's what the books about. That's what the books about,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in spite of the the quirks, the quirk

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<v Speaker 1>the quirks. Uh yeah, trying to think of some of

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite well can we all can we talk about

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<v Speaker 1>back to Willie Um one of his So in the

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<v Speaker 1>book you talk about you know, basically your mom was

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<v Speaker 1>in charge of raising the kids. But there was one

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<v Speaker 1>thing that she had Willie do because she couldn't. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was too much for her, she couldn't handle. So

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<v Speaker 1>basically she literally did all of our parenting except for

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<v Speaker 1>one thing, and that was she actually cared for her

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<v Speaker 1>own life and could not handle teaching my my brother

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<v Speaker 1>and I how to drive. And because I lack focus

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<v Speaker 1>on my brother lacks peripheral vision because he's blind, and

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<v Speaker 1>so we we knew how to drive. My parents, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, would let us drive a folk second bug,

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<v Speaker 1>but when we were like ten, like up and down

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<v Speaker 1>the streets, like I knew how to actually operate a vehicle.

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<v Speaker 1>But but you know, it's if you're planning on ever

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<v Speaker 1>leaving Little Compton and going above thirty five miles an

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<v Speaker 1>hour or a tractor is. My dad took us up

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<v Speaker 1>to Root outside of Boston, which is basically like the

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<v Speaker 1>Auto Bond, but it's filled with like mass holes with

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<v Speaker 1>like camaros and mall bangs and uh. He taught us

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<v Speaker 1>how to driving like the fastest most aggressive highway in America,

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<v Speaker 1>and he took us up to the roy Rogers parking

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<v Speaker 1>lot in his uh massa miata with his vanity plates

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<v Speaker 1>and uh. And he gave my was one piece of advice,

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<v Speaker 1>which you've always loved, Lisa. All he said was he

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<v Speaker 1>was all right, kiddo. No, it wasn't even not loving.

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<v Speaker 1>It was all right, kid, he who hesitates gets killed.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, what, Because he who hesitates gets killed.

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<v Speaker 1>Go and basically like, if you're gonna merge, merge, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna, if you're gonna get on the highway, like

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<v Speaker 1>you can't hesitate. If you're gonna, if you're gonna change lands,

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<v Speaker 1>better fucking change lanes. And I gotta tell you, a

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<v Speaker 1>He's right, He's right. It's really good advice I think

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<v Speaker 1>in life. Like if that's the one piece of advice

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<v Speaker 1>I got from him, I have to say I think

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<v Speaker 1>he hesitated gets killed. It works in every situation. It does,

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<v Speaker 1>it's good at it doesn't, and and it shows in

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<v Speaker 1>the way you live your life. I've always said that,

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<v Speaker 1>like that's I'm brave. I'm physically I am. I am

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<v Speaker 1>very brave. I'm bold. I do it, I get it done.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm careful physically with myself unless I'm filming something. If

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<v Speaker 1>I'm filming something, I'm brave. If it's real life, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>cautious physically. But you're not. You're not. You're the Chancellor

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<v Speaker 1>of the Chancellor of Safety. I'm the Grand Chancellor. Which

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<v Speaker 1>is a chapter in the book, folks, Yes, yes, I am.

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<v Speaker 1>Can we talk about Can we talk about one part

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<v Speaker 1>that's in that chapter? Yeah, which I there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff in here that I relate to big time,

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<v Speaker 1>which I'm sure a lot of people would relate to. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're with a group of college friends, is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it? Spring break? Spring break? Spring break? A real

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<v Speaker 1>springbreak in Lake Powell, the world's largest manmade lake in

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<v Speaker 1>a world largest man made Like like these are nightmare.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a nightmare. The fact that you throw in manmade lake.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, oh, you know, kissing chefs, like it's so

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<v Speaker 1>good because manmade lake. So many people would just say

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<v Speaker 1>a lake, you know, but you're like, manmade, like it

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<v Speaker 1>just changes things. And so every you know, everyone's like

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<v Speaker 1>drunk on this party barge and then they go to

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<v Speaker 1>some cliff to start cliff jumping and you're like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. No, everyone was drunk. There was a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of other drunk boaters around that first of all, was

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<v Speaker 1>a redhead in the Arizona sun crying myself with drunk

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<v Speaker 1>people on water, which is a terrible idea. Already, I

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<v Speaker 1>was on high alert. I didn't like it, but I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, alright, fine. I was trying to be young

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<v Speaker 1>and free freshman year in college, trying my best eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>year old arden and and I grew up by the ocean.

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<v Speaker 1>I know there's rocks underwater that you can't see, even

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<v Speaker 1>in a man made like. I don't know what they

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<v Speaker 1>left behind making that lake. I don't know what's in there.

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<v Speaker 1>So they were jumping off cliffs. There was the largest

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<v Speaker 1>cliffs I have everything. It was all the guys, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, okay, ladies, this is bullshit. We're not going.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I turned around. They were all gone. They

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<v Speaker 1>were up there racing everybody but me. Was like the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning of a teen horror movie. Jumping off the lake.

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<v Speaker 1>And I didn't want to do it because I knew

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<v Speaker 1>it was a terrible idea. Because I didn't I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know how I was going to land. I knew I've

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<v Speaker 1>been drinking. I didn't know what was under the water.

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<v Speaker 1>And I will say though, I am susceptible to peer pressure,

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<v Speaker 1>and they made me jump off the lake and other

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<v Speaker 1>people were like swan diving or like cannib and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I'll just jump straight into the lake. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>just fucking just let's just end this. Let me just

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<v Speaker 1>this is I can't wait to be done with college.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so not into this. This is so not my jam.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I read? Do you want me to read from it? Okay? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so this is from taking it where you're leaving off here? Fine,

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<v Speaker 1>this is art and talking. Fine, I'll jump once. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I climbed up to join all the revelers and look down.

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<v Speaker 1>It suddenly seemed a thousand feet high. I like roller coasters,

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<v Speaker 1>but this was insane. One two, three jump. I jumped.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not dive. I was soaring and flailing through

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<v Speaker 1>the air feet first. Before I knew it, I was

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<v Speaker 1>rocketing into the water. I was safe, sort of. My

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<v Speaker 1>entry into the lake felt like what can best be

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<v Speaker 1>described as an enema, the size of Lake Powell rushing

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<v Speaker 1>up my asshole I had. I had just lost my

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<v Speaker 1>anal virginity to a manmade lake. No wait, this is

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite part. People were swimming up to high five me.

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<v Speaker 1>I was surprised that there was any water left for

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<v Speaker 1>anyone else to swim in, as surely all of it

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<v Speaker 1>had moved into my lower body cavity. There was so

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<v Speaker 1>much water up my asshole. It hurts so much. It

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<v Speaker 1>was so good an enema. I got an enema once

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<v Speaker 1>water skiing, you've had that, you've had it? Did you

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<v Speaker 1>have to find a bathroom fast? There was a liquidation

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<v Speaker 1>that had to happen. It was look you and I've

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<v Speaker 1>discussed on the podcast on our Patreon which you can

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<v Speaker 1>go to now you can get like a hundred extra

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<v Speaker 1>episodes if you're like a girl, I just want I

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<v Speaker 1>want to watch people dating. We've discussed on our Patreon

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<v Speaker 1>episode when you're in a panic and it's time. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if there was ever as larger an emergency

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<v Speaker 1>as there was that day, because I was with forty

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<v Speaker 1>women and men from my college who I had still

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<v Speaker 1>had four years to go with as a freshman. No bathroom,

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<v Speaker 1>no bathroom nearby, because I was at a man made lake,

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<v Speaker 1>use with a party barge, not a cigarette boat to

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<v Speaker 1>get me. That's not a fast moving vehicle. That was

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say code red like code fire, like next

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<v Speaker 1>level panic, just the level of panic that was. I

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<v Speaker 1>will say this, when I set out to write the book,

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<v Speaker 1>I really went like channeling the worst moments of mine,

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<v Speaker 1>like just at did it? Did it? Did us by going?

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<v Speaker 1>Did us buying the vibrating cock rings for the party

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<v Speaker 1>machine end up in the book, because I've had that

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<v Speaker 1>in drafts with the guy, you and I. You and

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<v Speaker 1>I had a baby shower party. This was This was

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<v Speaker 1>in a draft. We did a bachelor at party. And

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<v Speaker 1>so you and I, who are not party for party

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<v Speaker 1>for party machines, so a party machine bachelorette party. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know what every time at a bachelor party they

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<v Speaker 1>have like penis headbands and penis necklaces. So we went

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<v Speaker 1>in New York City to like some like a sextor

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<v Speaker 1>like Horny World or whatever on like seven that and

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<v Speaker 1>it was covered in dust. We were all about the props.

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<v Speaker 1>It was all about the props. And it was like

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<v Speaker 1>really dumb, like a light up penis headband things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember, so this was in a draft. It

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<v Speaker 1>didn't end up in it, but I remember the guy

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<v Speaker 1>eating like a gray pile of meat with his hands

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<v Speaker 1>like a pile of meat with ketchup and meat shoveling

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<v Speaker 1>it in, and you were so because you grew up

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<v Speaker 1>in a like a very very religious family. You were

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<v Speaker 1>not even allowed to listen to secular music, Like you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know any pop culture efferences because you didn't you

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<v Speaker 1>were it was a very very very religious family. You

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<v Speaker 1>in a sex store with this man who was shoveling

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<v Speaker 1>meat in with his hands, and I'm I'm not like

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<v Speaker 1>the racist gal around. You went up to the counter

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<v Speaker 1>and you said, oh, what's this as we were purchasing things,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was like, that's the vibrating the vibrating cockering

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<v Speaker 1>and you're like, oh, he goes, he goes, you put

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<v Speaker 1>it up. Yeah, what it was basically was saying it

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<v Speaker 1>was like, yeah, like I put it on and it

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<v Speaker 1>tickles your clip and you were like like like watching you,

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<v Speaker 1>it was everything and there was covered in dust, looking

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<v Speaker 1>at catchup and gray meat, atching this man talk about

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<v Speaker 1>how he was going to put it on himself, and

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<v Speaker 1>watching you still try to be polite with like a

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<v Speaker 1>lighted his headband on your head. Hey, yeah, And I

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<v Speaker 1>so basically you catalog when for me, when I was

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<v Speaker 1>writing the book, I was cataloging. It was basically like

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<v Speaker 1>worst off. You know what I mean, you catalog worst up? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's just rich. That's what I think. If

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<v Speaker 1>I could use one word, this book is rich. But

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<v Speaker 1>but the bones zone. Let's get in the bone zone, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>So overall, if somebody was on the fence and they

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<v Speaker 1>haven't bought it yet, Lisa, is there any final thing

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<v Speaker 1>that you want to leave the listeners with? There's so

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<v Speaker 1>much humping dogs. Oh, I want Here's what I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about. J J. And you talked about how

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<v Speaker 1>you grew up with um. I guess was it JJ's mom, Hilda? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was was really it was a card shark. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that's whole. There's this whole part in there about

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<v Speaker 1>you growing up in grandmother like teaching out to play

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<v Speaker 1>poker and amazing, and then you end up going to

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<v Speaker 1>a casino. I mean was But I just wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about when you and I played cards with j J.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, that's right. So j J was out here.

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<v Speaker 1>JJ loved Lisa and I we hit it off like

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<v Speaker 1>immediately I met you too at that at that diner

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<v Speaker 1>at the one on one diner. And then when the

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<v Speaker 1>first time I've met your mom after all the of

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<v Speaker 1>knowing you. That's shocking to me because she would come

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<v Speaker 1>to party machines, but she would probably take off what

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<v Speaker 1>she had been to party. Yeah, she's been to party machines.

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<v Speaker 1>And so then she met. We went to the movies

1:14:46.200 --> 1:14:49.280
<v Speaker 1>I met. I can't remember, probably something dumb. We loved.

1:14:50.360 --> 1:14:53.360
<v Speaker 1>It was about that like football jock who came out

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<v Speaker 1>as gay. Okay, I loved teen she that's perfect classic JJ.

1:14:59.520 --> 1:15:02.840
<v Speaker 1>She loved it in movie. And then you came over.

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<v Speaker 1>So she loved Lisa, so she she loved to come

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<v Speaker 1>in to visit. She loved the girl. She's very social, butterfly,

1:15:08.760 --> 1:15:11.080
<v Speaker 1>and she had just my dad had died like a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of months earlier, and we were trying to encourage

1:15:13.960 --> 1:15:17.439
<v Speaker 1>her to go on dating apps, and she didn't like it.

1:15:17.520 --> 1:15:20.040
<v Speaker 1>She didn't want to date men her own age. She did,

1:15:20.200 --> 1:15:21.840
<v Speaker 1>she said, she she didn't. She ask me if you'd

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<v Speaker 1>ever seen old man balls and that you should never

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<v Speaker 1>see old man balls. Yes, And she had a funny

1:15:26.680 --> 1:15:29.960
<v Speaker 1>story about one guy she'd gone out with. What was

1:15:30.000 --> 1:15:32.040
<v Speaker 1>that story? She'd gone out with a few of them,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think it was basically like she's so fun

1:15:34.960 --> 1:15:38.000
<v Speaker 1>that they were all like yeah and that like all

1:15:38.040 --> 1:15:40.640
<v Speaker 1>of them were like dud's like looking for somebody to

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<v Speaker 1>entertain them. And then she was like I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to because she hadn't been on the dating scenes since

1:15:44.479 --> 1:15:46.439
<v Speaker 1>she was twenty two, so all of a sudden she

1:15:46.560 --> 1:15:48.479
<v Speaker 1>still felt like she was twenty two, but she's now

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<v Speaker 1>having to like match up with like seventy five year

1:15:50.920 --> 1:15:53.800
<v Speaker 1>old guys and she's like, I don't think or as

1:15:53.800 --> 1:15:55.960
<v Speaker 1>she said, homie, don't think so. Because she loved in

1:15:56.040 --> 1:15:58.080
<v Speaker 1>loving Common, she would always say, how I don't think so,

1:15:58.520 --> 1:16:01.400
<v Speaker 1>but so then then you remember to visit. And then

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<v Speaker 1>j J loved to play games, were like, let's play

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<v Speaker 1>some cards. We taught you how to play pounds, which

1:16:05.640 --> 1:16:12.160
<v Speaker 1>is like group solitaire. Yes, k J loved Lisa, but

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<v Speaker 1>the two of us were like staring at you and

1:16:15.320 --> 1:16:20.400
<v Speaker 1>could not believe how bad at cards, Like we didn't understand,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm so I am so bad at cards? What

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<v Speaker 1>did my mom's face look like? You know that It

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<v Speaker 1>was a mix of like pity, yeah, but also like respect. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you know she loved you. She was forgiving because she

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<v Speaker 1>saw she she got it, like she's like that you

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<v Speaker 1>weren't brought up by like maniacs, Like I was raised

1:16:46.800 --> 1:16:50.200
<v Speaker 1>by maniacs, and it was like what they were into,

1:16:50.280 --> 1:16:52.559
<v Speaker 1>they were super into and they're gonna make sure you're

1:16:52.560 --> 1:16:54.840
<v Speaker 1>good at it too, and like they're not gonna take

1:16:54.840 --> 1:16:58.400
<v Speaker 1>anything at you because you're five, like you're you just

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<v Speaker 1>get it's that New England and gets get in the water.

1:17:00.800 --> 1:17:03.120
<v Speaker 1>We don't care that it's four degrees. We're going first

1:17:03.120 --> 1:17:07.680
<v Speaker 1>swim like they are maniacs And oh my god, you

1:17:07.720 --> 1:17:10.959
<v Speaker 1>didn't have the right kind of like heavy handed schooling

1:17:11.000 --> 1:17:13.719
<v Speaker 1>as a young five year old. Yeah, it's a slow

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<v Speaker 1>it's I'm a slow moving I'm slow, but I'm good.

1:17:17.439 --> 1:17:19.240
<v Speaker 1>I have a t shirt with a turtle on it

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<v Speaker 1>that says, I'm I'm may be slow, but I'm good.

1:17:22.479 --> 1:17:25.240
<v Speaker 1>I am fully trying to in because I've always been

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<v Speaker 1>the you know, like the tortoise and the hair. I've

1:17:27.280 --> 1:17:29.800
<v Speaker 1>always been the hair, but the tortoise ones in the end.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've been trying to adopt the tortoise lifestyle because

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<v Speaker 1>it's not my natural habitat well, I'm still our friends.

1:17:37.280 --> 1:17:40.120
<v Speaker 1>That's why we're friends. That's why we're friends. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>we're friends, and you are the one who read this,

1:17:42.920 --> 1:17:45.800
<v Speaker 1>and you said art and it's not your memoir, it's

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<v Speaker 1>your mom war. It's a mom wir. It's a lovely tribute,

1:17:50.360 --> 1:17:55.240
<v Speaker 1>lovely tribute to j J, who gave herself that nickname.

1:17:55.320 --> 1:17:57.639
<v Speaker 1>She was Janet until she was seventy five, and then

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<v Speaker 1>she started signing all of her emails and texts exo JJ.

1:18:02.040 --> 1:18:07.880
<v Speaker 1>Which way I mean truly, it felt so insane to

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<v Speaker 1>me that you could give yourself your own nickname to

1:18:10.320 --> 1:18:12.760
<v Speaker 1>begin with at any age that you could give your

1:18:13.000 --> 1:18:16.639
<v Speaker 1>Nobody gave it to her. Okay, she's like that, it's

1:18:16.720 --> 1:18:20.080
<v Speaker 1>seventy five. You could give yourself a nickname and just

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<v Speaker 1>go so and everybody in town calls her j J.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just like, so, I of course I'm an

1:18:26.040 --> 1:18:28.479
<v Speaker 1>want a JJ. Like to me, JJ was like a

1:18:28.520 --> 1:18:31.840
<v Speaker 1>fresh start. JJ was on the dating apps. JJ wanted

1:18:31.880 --> 1:18:34.880
<v Speaker 1>to date Rob Benedict, Like, yeah, I'll call you j J.

1:18:35.120 --> 1:18:38.040
<v Speaker 1>Like JJ's like she would say, like with the dating

1:18:38.080 --> 1:18:39.800
<v Speaker 1>of the guys that the old men she wanted. She

1:18:39.840 --> 1:18:42.400
<v Speaker 1>wanted to date Rob Benedict And she said, I don't

1:18:42.439 --> 1:18:44.479
<v Speaker 1>want to be a nurse or a purse like for

1:18:44.520 --> 1:18:46.880
<v Speaker 1>an old guy. I don't want to be a nurse

1:18:46.960 --> 1:18:48.200
<v Speaker 1>or a person. I don't want to pay for him,

1:18:48.240 --> 1:18:49.519
<v Speaker 1>and I don't want to take care of him like

1:18:49.560 --> 1:18:51.759
<v Speaker 1>I've done. I don't be a nurse or a purse.

1:18:51.800 --> 1:18:55.200
<v Speaker 1>I'll date your friend, Rob, And Rob said I would

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<v Speaker 1>date your mom. And that's where we love. He's so cute.

1:18:58.680 --> 1:19:05.000
<v Speaker 1>He's cute. Up. Yeah, we love Rob well, Lisa. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I, I, you know, from somebody who doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>really read very much and I have a hard time

1:19:12.080 --> 1:19:14.240
<v Speaker 1>getting through books. I love that I introduced you as

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<v Speaker 1>a reader, and you know what, that's the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>friendship we have. I believe in you as a reader.

1:19:19.240 --> 1:19:22.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean I have some books have I gonna read

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<v Speaker 1>them all. But I you know, I've read this book

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<v Speaker 1>twice actually, and it's like I read it the second

1:19:30.280 --> 1:19:33.160
<v Speaker 1>time and I felt like I hadn't ever read it before.

1:19:33.280 --> 1:19:37.640
<v Speaker 1>It's because it's just I don't know, it's um I

1:19:37.680 --> 1:19:41.320
<v Speaker 1>go back to the word rich, and it's just super

1:19:43.600 --> 1:19:47.519
<v Speaker 1>entertaining and funny. And then there's you know, there's like

1:19:47.600 --> 1:19:52.000
<v Speaker 1>some real serious kind of dealing with grief and it's

1:19:52.080 --> 1:19:56.120
<v Speaker 1>kind of in the end and and h and this

1:19:56.240 --> 1:19:58.639
<v Speaker 1>shout out to this podcast. I gave a shout out

1:19:58.680 --> 1:20:01.880
<v Speaker 1>to the podcast in it because you know what they

1:20:01.920 --> 1:20:03.880
<v Speaker 1>showed up for me. They weren't scared of it when

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<v Speaker 1>it all happened. And that like the gift of it

1:20:07.320 --> 1:20:10.519
<v Speaker 1>is that you can actually like the hope because I

1:20:10.520 --> 1:20:13.040
<v Speaker 1>feel like the world right now is having collective like

1:20:13.080 --> 1:20:16.080
<v Speaker 1>it's it's people are mourning their normal lives, some people

1:20:16.080 --> 1:20:19.240
<v Speaker 1>have lost people like is that you it may not

1:20:19.320 --> 1:20:22.720
<v Speaker 1>be our best year ever collectively, but you can still

1:20:22.800 --> 1:20:24.280
<v Speaker 1>have some fun and we don't need to make it

1:20:24.280 --> 1:20:26.800
<v Speaker 1>our worst, like you could still have some sparkles along

1:20:26.840 --> 1:20:28.960
<v Speaker 1>the way, and like, and I think it's a good

1:20:28.960 --> 1:20:33.000
<v Speaker 1>book for right now. Absolutely, And what do you say

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<v Speaker 1>about you have to walk through it? About grief like

1:20:36.720 --> 1:20:39.120
<v Speaker 1>you gotta feel it to heal it. Oh man, you

1:20:39.120 --> 1:20:41.080
<v Speaker 1>gotta feel it to heal it. You gotta feel it

1:20:41.120 --> 1:20:45.000
<v Speaker 1>to heal it. Basically, if you don't deal with it,

1:20:45.000 --> 1:20:47.439
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna deal with you, so you may as well

1:20:47.560 --> 1:20:49.919
<v Speaker 1>deal with it. But I give a fun look. Honestly,

1:20:50.040 --> 1:20:54.040
<v Speaker 1>some of my healing like recommendations are literally watching stuff

1:20:54.080 --> 1:20:56.840
<v Speaker 1>like The Bachelor, or watching Queer I or Great British

1:20:56.880 --> 1:21:00.519
<v Speaker 1>Bake Off, or going on walks or dancing, Like it's

1:21:00.560 --> 1:21:03.240
<v Speaker 1>not all like I mean like hug it out, talk

1:21:03.320 --> 1:21:05.400
<v Speaker 1>about cry it out. It's only like one little part,

1:21:05.640 --> 1:21:08.040
<v Speaker 1>you know. One of the upshots of grief, I'm like

1:21:08.479 --> 1:21:11.240
<v Speaker 1>I was I am the biggest people pleaser, and the

1:21:11.320 --> 1:21:13.920
<v Speaker 1>upshot of losing j J. I just couldn't do it anymore.

1:21:13.960 --> 1:21:16.320
<v Speaker 1>I had no skin on my body and it was

1:21:16.400 --> 1:21:18.479
<v Speaker 1>just like very clear to me, who do I want

1:21:18.520 --> 1:21:21.000
<v Speaker 1>to hang out with? Who don't? Like an email would

1:21:21.040 --> 1:21:23.920
<v Speaker 1>come in like an invitation, and my body would just

1:21:23.960 --> 1:21:26.040
<v Speaker 1>have a reaction and I would either be like yeah,

1:21:26.080 --> 1:21:28.160
<v Speaker 1>I want to be with them or like no fucking way.

1:21:28.800 --> 1:21:31.360
<v Speaker 1>And I couldn't force myself to people please, whereas the

1:21:31.360 --> 1:21:32.880
<v Speaker 1>rest of my life I'd be like, oh I should

1:21:32.960 --> 1:21:35.000
<v Speaker 1>go or I should do that or a work thing.

1:21:35.720 --> 1:21:39.439
<v Speaker 1>And uh. One of the upshots was like it became

1:21:39.479 --> 1:21:42.200
<v Speaker 1>really clear like what works and who what work and

1:21:42.240 --> 1:21:44.439
<v Speaker 1>just leaning into that and that I don't need to

1:21:44.479 --> 1:21:47.599
<v Speaker 1>people please anymore and like that's been a really good thing.

1:21:47.680 --> 1:21:51.360
<v Speaker 1>I hope that lasts for me. Yeah, And and also

1:21:51.479 --> 1:21:54.200
<v Speaker 1>that you kind of in a way like you say

1:21:54.280 --> 1:21:56.479
<v Speaker 1>that there's you're not there's nothing really that you can

1:21:56.520 --> 1:21:59.479
<v Speaker 1>be afraid of. Anymore because the worst possible thing has happened,

1:22:00.080 --> 1:22:04.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, and that much to my surprise, So that

1:22:04.400 --> 1:22:07.960
<v Speaker 1>was last year. Much to my surprise, it was also

1:22:08.120 --> 1:22:10.800
<v Speaker 1>like a beautiful, great year. Like that's the thing. It

1:22:10.840 --> 1:22:13.200
<v Speaker 1>can be all of it, it can be all of it.

1:22:13.560 --> 1:22:15.479
<v Speaker 1>I used to be such a worry ward and you're like,

1:22:15.840 --> 1:22:19.240
<v Speaker 1>I still tend to worry sometimes, but I do now

1:22:19.360 --> 1:22:21.840
<v Speaker 1>and know that that's like my I don't have like

1:22:21.880 --> 1:22:25.519
<v Speaker 1>there's it doesn't do anything. Yeah, let's just have it.

1:22:26.200 --> 1:22:29.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna first of all, Lisa, what a great interviewer,

1:22:29.720 --> 1:22:33.760
<v Speaker 1>What a great interviewer NPR watch out all things considered

1:22:34.200 --> 1:22:37.479
<v Speaker 1>here he is Lisa delirious. Will you help me put

1:22:37.640 --> 1:22:39.880
<v Speaker 1>so I'm gonna call people's names. If I call your name,

1:22:39.920 --> 1:22:42.040
<v Speaker 1>email us and go hey, bitch, you call my name

1:22:42.200 --> 1:22:44.559
<v Speaker 1>Rose Podcast at gmail dot com, and you get your choice.

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<v Speaker 1>You tell me if you want a t shirt, if

1:22:47.320 --> 1:22:51.439
<v Speaker 1>you want a little little Compton Sturdy great tote bag,

1:22:52.240 --> 1:22:55.639
<v Speaker 1>or if you want a meet the authors with Arden

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<v Speaker 1>and Mitten's recreation on my sixth grade photo puzzle. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>pilling four winners, and don't forget to get your tickets

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<v Speaker 1>in advance for Dynasty Typewriter this Saturday PM Pacific a

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<v Speaker 1>p m. Eastern. Come we can, we might pull you up, um,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's virtual. And if you buy your ticket advance,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll get a link and it'll go. It's only five

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<v Speaker 1>dollars and it'll be up all week. And if you

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<v Speaker 1>buy your book through that website, you can have me

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<v Speaker 1>sign it to you or your loved one or somebody

1:23:27.960 --> 1:23:30.000
<v Speaker 1>you hate. I don't know, all right, at least I'm

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<v Speaker 1>picking four winners. Tell me when to stop. Okay, okay,

1:23:36.160 --> 1:23:41.880
<v Speaker 1>tell me when to stop. To pick one okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>The first winner is Sue Stellic. You won the gift

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<v Speaker 1>of your choice. Okay. Number two, tell me when to stop. Okay, stop, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. Oh she was the third person to email in.

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<v Speaker 1>Mary Bennett. You probably bought your book back in February.

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<v Speaker 1>You just want something, Come on, Mary, Okay, two more too,

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<v Speaker 1>more to stop and stop? Okay. Number three, we have

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<v Speaker 1>Peter Lock. You just won the gift of your choice.

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<v Speaker 1>Last one, okay, what's up? Okay? Last one we have okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Juleane Deppen. You just one the gift of your choice.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's Sue Stellic. Mary Bennett, Peter Lock, and Julene

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<v Speaker 1>depp In DApp in email in say I want, tell

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<v Speaker 1>me what you want and where to send it? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>keep emailing in your receipts. A Little Miss Little Content

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<v Speaker 1>comes out Tuesday, the twenty nine. It's here you, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you love it. If you do like it,

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<v Speaker 1>please leave a review for it on Amazon and good Reads.

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<v Speaker 1>It really helps, even if you haven't read it to

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<v Speaker 1>sleep in nice review. Even if you hate it, leave

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<v Speaker 1>a nice review. Oh Elie, Oh wait, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>there's any way anybody can hate this book? Well? Will

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<v Speaker 1>you leave a nice review on good Reads? Lisa? It helps.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what it does, but apparently it helps you. Guys.

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<v Speaker 1>We love you. There's gonna be another Feeling Thorny episode

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<v Speaker 1>up on next Wednesday with Aaron Foley, who's so wonderful,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we'll be back. Um, I guess it airs

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<v Speaker 1>October to Our episode will be up October fifteenth with

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<v Speaker 1>the coming back of the Bachelorette. And in the meantime,

1:25:32.840 --> 1:25:35.960
<v Speaker 1>if you're like craving more episodes of people, Lisa, how

1:25:36.000 --> 1:25:39.360
<v Speaker 1>fun is watching Bachelorette New Zealand? There's two Bachelorettes. Isn't

1:25:39.360 --> 1:25:42.719
<v Speaker 1>it fantast and the guys are nice. Yeah, it's uh,

1:25:42.760 --> 1:25:46.000
<v Speaker 1>it's it's a I can't wait to watch the next episode.

1:25:46.040 --> 1:25:48.720
<v Speaker 1>It's so good. It's so good. And you and m

1:25:48.800 --> 1:25:53.160
<v Speaker 1>K are joy and of course Tanna Banana Dr Banana. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, you guys, um and conclusion, Katie, Lisa, thank

1:25:57.520 --> 1:26:01.559
<v Speaker 1>you both and all the listeners. I certainly didn't picture

1:26:01.600 --> 1:26:03.880
<v Speaker 1>my book coming out in a global pandemic. I could

1:26:03.880 --> 1:26:06.800
<v Speaker 1>not feel more love. Obviously, I'm trying to get on

1:26:07.120 --> 1:26:09.920
<v Speaker 1>the New York Time Spenseller list. It's a really long shot,

1:26:11.320 --> 1:26:13.559
<v Speaker 1>and I am regardless, and if I do, I'm going

1:26:13.600 --> 1:26:15.599
<v Speaker 1>to force my brother to let me throw a live

1:26:15.640 --> 1:26:17.960
<v Speaker 1>show him. JJ's yard were long sleeves, so you don't

1:26:18.000 --> 1:26:25.160
<v Speaker 1>get that tick biting thing. But um, here's the deal,

1:26:25.240 --> 1:26:29.520
<v Speaker 1>you guys. Regardless, I felt so much love, so much appreciation,

1:26:29.600 --> 1:26:31.000
<v Speaker 1>and more than anything, I just can't wait for you

1:26:31.040 --> 1:26:32.439
<v Speaker 1>guys to read the book, and I hope you all

1:26:32.439 --> 1:26:34.040
<v Speaker 1>love it, and I hope you all feel seen, and

1:26:34.080 --> 1:26:36.439
<v Speaker 1>I hope you all feel supported and that you see

1:26:36.479 --> 1:26:39.520
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of something of yourself from it. Lisa delirious.

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<v Speaker 1>Where can people find you Oh. Instagram at Lisa Delarious Great.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on Instagram and Twitter and Facebook at Arta Marine,

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<v Speaker 1>m y R I n Katie Levine. Where can people

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<v Speaker 1>find you? I'm Katie Underscore Money on Twitter and Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, you guys, thank you so much. Is almost here.

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<v Speaker 1>We made it. Hopefully we'll see you at our book

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