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Speaker 2: No Cowboys, This is the Players Lounge, broadcasting live from

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Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts,

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Speaker 2: Barry Church, Hecma Harrison, and Newie Scruggs.

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Speaker 3: All right, everybody, here we go. It is the Players Lounge.

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Speaker 4: No players today, It's just me Scrugs in heck Maharson,

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Speaker 4: It's just us.

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Speaker 3: It's just him.

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Speaker 4: It's just us today. So will we will power through?

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Speaker 4: Bear Church off today former Cowboys safety. Lots of topics

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Speaker 4: to get to as the Cowboys are now back here

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Speaker 4: full time in North Texas. Had another open practice yesterday

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Speaker 4: at Ford Center for fans to come in and check

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Speaker 4: out for free as they get ready for all efforts

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Speaker 4: towards the Cleveland Browns to start the twenty twenty.

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Speaker 3: Four in FL season.

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Speaker 4: So, Heckma, they've added two more names to the practice

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Speaker 4: squad today. But the other name that was added yesterday

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Speaker 4: of big importance was Dalvin Cook. We'll get into Dalvin Cook,

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Speaker 4: but I want to start with to me, the most important,

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Speaker 4: which is the quarterback. Jerry Jones met with the media

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Speaker 4: yesterday Jerry has the smoothest press conferences that I've ever covered.

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Speaker 4: From this standpoint, nobody knows how to put the sponsor

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Speaker 4: a sponsor in front of him a massive group of

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Speaker 4: media before the press cars. So if he just says, hey, look,

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Speaker 4: you know we're gonna have a lottery, a Texas Lottery

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Speaker 4: press conference. That's the Cowboys to scratch off, and you know,

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Speaker 4: just like, hey, we're gonna have it a ten o'clock

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Speaker 4: on a Wednesday. Nobody shows but to have a presser

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Speaker 4: in which Jerry's gonna talk.

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Speaker 3: We're all showing up for that. But beforehand, here.

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Speaker 4: Come the cheerleaders, and here comes the little scratch off thing,

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Speaker 4: and the guy comes over and then we talked to him.

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Speaker 4: You know what, I learned more about the scratch off

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Speaker 4: than a whole bunch of stuff tests.

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Speaker 3: I was like, you know, this is smart.

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Speaker 4: I remember the time he had Papa John coming when

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Speaker 4: they started their sponsorship with Papa John's pizza first off

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Speaker 4: as a trend and get he brought a whole bunch

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Speaker 3: So you're happy about that. Happy about that? All right?

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Speaker 4: So so Papa John talks and Jerry goes through that

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Speaker 4: and then then after Jerry talks in here comes the

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Speaker 4: head coach everything. I was like, you know what, that's

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Speaker 4: a smart way to do it if you want to

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Speaker 4: get coverage for the sponsor in the media, to talk

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Speaker 4: about it and get out there. So I was like,

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Speaker 4: you know, this is Jerry. Jerry still on top of

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Speaker 4: his game. But then he went into the questions and

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Speaker 4: it became about Dak Prescott, and one of the questions

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Speaker 4: I asked him is what's Plan B.

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Speaker 3: What's the strategy here?

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Speaker 4: You do not have another quarterback under contract next year?

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Speaker 4: Because Jerry basically came out and told everyone and Clarence

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Speaker 4: Hill wrote about it, He's not signing Dak before the season.

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Speaker 4: So the deal for CD Lamb, that was for CD Lamb.

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Speaker 3: There's no deal coming for Dak Prescott. Heck man, how

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Speaker 3: do you feel about that and no Plan B?

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Speaker 5: Well, look, I think this is Jerry being the ring

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Speaker 5: leader basically in this circus and calling you all in

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Speaker 5: and making you hang on every word that he says.

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Speaker 5: And the media is going to do that because it's

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Speaker 5: Jerry and he knows how to play you guys. He

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Speaker 5: really does us guys. I'm sorry, I'm a part of

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Speaker 5: that well, but you know, when it comes to the

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Speaker 5: road mapping, you ask the biggest question, well, what do

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Speaker 5: you do if you don't sign Dak? And no one

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Speaker 5: has even gotten to that part of what does Plan

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Speaker 5: B look like? And to America's team, plan B does

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Speaker 5: not look good at all. Plan B does not get

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Speaker 5: memorabilia purchase. So you know, whatever Plan B is, if

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Speaker 5: it's not Dak, it's going to have to be something else,

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Speaker 5: because right now you don't have I don't believe you

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Speaker 5: have a quarterback on your roster that you're confident with

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Speaker 5: going forward in the future. You're not saying, hey, we're

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Speaker 5: Promised lad. The future without Dak doesn't look like twelve

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Speaker 5: wins seasons. The future without Dak looks much more abysmal.

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Speaker 5: And people can talk about what they think about this

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Speaker 5: so here you go. Here is and if you're just

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Speaker 5: asking me to dissect and interpret what Jerry is saying.

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Speaker 5: I just I don't have a I don't have enough.

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Speaker 5: I don't know I have enough skins on the wall

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Speaker 5: one to be able to do that. But number two,

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Speaker 5: when I think when it comes down to what's going

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Speaker 5: ploy in him negotiating through the media, but I am.

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Speaker 3: If I was a.

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Speaker 5: Betting man, I'd be betting that there's a deal already

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Speaker 5: on the table for Dak and Dak has yet to

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Speaker 5: sign that deal.

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Speaker 4: You're, like all of us were yesterday. We don't know

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Speaker 4: what's going on. You're just asking the question, trying to

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Speaker 4: figure it out about why this doesn't make sense. So

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Speaker 4: Jerry tells me, you know what, they could all be

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Speaker 4: under contract. It wouldn't matter. They may not be here.

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Speaker 4: So he went to this whole rigamarole of Okay, it

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Speaker 4: doesn't matter if they're under contract, because they basically I

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Speaker 4: could fire them, I could get rid of It doesn't

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Speaker 4: matter just because there are the contracts.

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Speaker 3: Mean nothing, like Jerry, they mean nothing.

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Speaker 5: They do and we haven't got to that point yet,

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Speaker 5: which exactly make it. You know what makes this and

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Speaker 5: does it right? Come on, now, you know food, So.

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Speaker 4: He gave us that whole rigamarole and did Jeff Cole

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Speaker 4: the Fox four asked Jerry a very legitimate question, what

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Speaker 4: else does Zach Prescott have to prove to you that he's.

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Speaker 3: Worthy of contract? Yea?

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Speaker 4: And Jerry said nothing, And then he goes into the

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Speaker 4: whole economics of this is so Jerry just runs around

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Speaker 4: his whole thing there there like, Jerry, make it make sense?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, any day now the math is gone, math right,

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Speaker 4: And when you say you think that there's a contract

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Speaker 3: Here's why I would be skeptical on just me.

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Speaker 4: Okay, considering you already hurt your leg before you know,

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Speaker 3: And you say you want to be here, and if

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Speaker 3: that you like, why would you not take It's it? Okay?

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Speaker 5: So let's just be clear on this that right now

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Speaker 5: at the headquarters in Frisco, this is a pressure cooker

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Speaker 5: And so with that being said, there are a lot

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Speaker 5: One of them, one of them right now, Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 5: I feel like he's not a part of that pressure

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Speaker 5: get paid sixty million.

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Speaker 4: Dollars regardless, guardless, regardless, yes, regardless, he.

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Speaker 3: Should be playing free. I'm getting paid you want, I mean,

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Speaker 5: I mean, if we could just really add up who

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Speaker 5: the pressure is on this season to succeed and fail,

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Speaker 5: and what this the representation of what this team is

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Speaker 5: gonna look like when we get to January, Dak is

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Speaker 3: Hurt or not.

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Speaker 5: Some team is going to play pay more than market

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Speaker 5: to say that Mike McCarthy right now is the one

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Speaker 5: who's sweating the most as we're talking about Dak.

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Speaker 3: Dak's gonna land on his feet.

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you this, and this is my opinion, just

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Speaker 4: my opinion. I think McCarthy's fine too. If Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 4: that he'll get a head coaching job.

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Speaker 3: Of course, of.

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Speaker 5: Course, Mike McCarthy's not going to go somewhere and be

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Speaker 3: That's never gonna happen to Mike.

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Speaker 4: Well, come on, and I would say, from this standpoint,

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Speaker 4: if we're asking ourselves right now, have they done everything

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Speaker 3: It's been made a little bit harder on Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 4: And if Mike McCarthy can figure out how just a

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Speaker 4: winning season, right, just winning a winning seat. You go

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Speaker 4: nine and eight here, considering what all In was said

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Speaker 4: winning season your first year calling plays again Dak Prescott,

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Speaker 4: who led the league and picks the year before. As

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Speaker 4: you said, we gotta getri his offics a coordinator, you

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Speaker 4: take over. He leads the league and touchdown passes. Cede

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Speaker 4: Lamb is what one vote away from being unanimous All Pro.

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Speaker 4: This man has shown in my mind he can coach.

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Speaker 4: And you start going down to the winslows we talked

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Speaker 3: It ain't a lot of good coach, right.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know we're talking to a man in

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Speaker 4: LA Brandon Staley was out there charges me.

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Speaker 3: So we're seeing guys get jobs that can't perform.

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Speaker 4: So to me, Dak Prescott and Mike McCarthy should just

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Speaker 4: do what they do and if they're not wanted here,

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Speaker 4: I do believe they'll.

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Speaker 3: Be wanting somewhere.

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Speaker 5: Question is on that it comes down to who do

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Speaker 5: we lose when we start talking about this team and

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Speaker 5: when we start talking about talent on this team, You know,

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Speaker 5: who do we lose? Of substance that we're saying our

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Speaker 5: had nine. You had nine All Pros on last year's team,

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Speaker 5: all right, If you take away the specialty guys. You

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Speaker 5: All Pros on this team that you have under contract

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Speaker 5: this year. There aren't a lot of teams with six

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Speaker 5: All Pros on them. And I'm taking away the other

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Speaker 5: the other specialty guys that you have that are definitely

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Speaker 3: I'll hit you back with this.

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Speaker 4: You now have two rookies that are going to start

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Speaker 4: for you on the offense at I would say the

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Speaker 4: two most critical positions on the offensive line left tackle

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Speaker 4: is question mark field. That's one reason why you got

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Speaker 4: Dalvin cooking here. I had to fill out a sheet

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Speaker 4: the other day that said, Okay, how many yards will

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Speaker 4: Ezekiel Elliott game?

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Speaker 3: And they're assuming it was numbers? What's your number? What's

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Speaker 3: go ahead, go ahead?

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Speaker 5: Newie shrugs went between six point fifty and in eight hundred.

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Speaker 5: No lower than that? Yes, really, yes, wow, I am wow?

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Speaker 5: And I say that to you from the standpoint right now.

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Speaker 4: We don't know exactly what it is they're going to do.

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Speaker 4: Come back into you where I think Mike McCarthy has

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Speaker 4: I believe it's also where the Cowboys lost their playoff

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Speaker 5: Please, the thing is when I when I think about

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Speaker 5: Mike McCarthy has not stayed the course in situations. He's

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Speaker 5: going to your running back position, I'm sorry you were

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Speaker 5: I do believe that when you incorporate a guy like

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Speaker 5: going to get of Dalvin Cook? But there are definitely

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Speaker 5: Boogie package. All right, I formation with Dalvin Cook. What

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Speaker 5: it's going to be a running back by committee approach

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Speaker 4: Guy, it was the right tackle Oklahoma. Now he's going

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Speaker 3: So there's a change.

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Speaker 4: And this is the National Football League, the toughest levels

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Speaker 3: It's going to be an adjustment.

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Speaker 4: The first six games are pretty he's they're throwing the

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Speaker 4: you do to just to just throw him on out

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Speaker 4: I think that would be unfair.

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Speaker 5: Why do you take a guy in the first round

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Speaker 5: you're setting him up for failure.

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying you're setting up for failure. But at

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Speaker 5: It didn't do that with Tyler Smith. He was a

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Speaker 5: I'm not trying to say that the adjustment is easy.

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Speaker 5: I'm not naive to that, but just to say that, okay,

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Speaker 5: this could be this is the weakest part of your

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Speaker 5: any good. I think you've already talked about things that

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Speaker 5: you could do to cover up some of those warts.

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Speaker 5: Just starting off in Cleveland.

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Speaker 4: But remember Tyler had to go play left tackle.

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Speaker 3: Okay, remember that the injuries in case.

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Speaker 4: So he had to get it. I mean they had

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Speaker 4: hey man, there's gonna be some tough nights out here.

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Speaker 4: Start your first game off with Miles Garrett. I just

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Speaker 4: think that's a challenge. I'm not saying that the guys

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Speaker 4: He was not what they thought he was gonna be.

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying that. What I'm just saying is you

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Speaker 4: look at this skin sedle. Here he's facing some heavy

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Speaker 4: got to sit there here room. He's a rookie player.

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Speaker 4: It takes everybody in a little minute to get here.

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Speaker 4: And then how do we help the player? Once again,

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Speaker 4: I talk about warts. How do you cover a warts?

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Speaker 4: If you're the defensive coordinator for Cleveland, you're, hey, let's

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Speaker 4: figure out the left tackles nor center's new. Let's test them.

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Speaker 4: Let's test them. And so the tests are going to come.

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Speaker 4: So Lari's a good offensive line coach. We've seen his

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Speaker 4: track record. The Cowboys is an organization. You are correct,

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Speaker 4: They've done a very good job of developing people. But

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Speaker 4: at the same time, I just know it takes people

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Speaker 3: Remember the first four games it was not pretty absolutely, and.

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Speaker 4: We're talking about a veteran player who they had to

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Speaker 3: Say it's automatically gonna happen.

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Speaker 4: This league is a challenge, and it's going He's coming

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Speaker 4: out facing one of the biggest challenges. And you know

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Speaker 4: you've got jj Lott, you got eight Hutchinson on the list,

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Speaker 4: you got tip Oft on me, and there's gonna be

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Speaker 3: We'll see how he works with it. But it's going

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Speaker 4: Maybe that's where I'm at. I'm on the cautious side

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Speaker 4: of things to say, hey, look, let's be ready because

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Speaker 3: He may he.

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Speaker 4: May exceed everything he could. That could happen. We have

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Speaker 4: seen it happen with their first round picks. The offensive line,

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Speaker 4: Tyron Smith excel have a history tign proof of consistency, Yes,

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Speaker 4: Travis Travis, Travis for exceled. So if he excels, then

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Speaker 4: hey man, you follow it. But at the same time,

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Speaker 3: Number one at their positions pretty much coming out, and that.

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Speaker 4: You know where they were ranked Actually Tying was number two,

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Speaker 4: but they were ranked pretty. They're ranked high. He wasn't

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Speaker 4: He was drafted later. Travis Frederick was number two in

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Speaker 3: So we'll see.

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Speaker 4: But I'm just one of those I just said, hey, look,

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Speaker 4: my gosh, Miles Gearhead can play from Arland, tex the

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Speaker 4: heck of a player here. So we'll see where it goes.

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Speaker 4: Your confidence level is higher than mine if we got

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Speaker 4: if we got if we got a glass. So this

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Speaker 4: that water. I don't know you mean what Refield the

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Speaker 3: I am new he Scruggs.

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Speaker 4: We're rolling along here. So Dalvin Cook added to the

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Speaker 4: practice squad something I wanted to bring up here. Jerry

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Speaker 4: Jones was asked yesterday, what did Zimmer tell you about

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Speaker 4: Dalvin Cook? And then what did it mean coming from him?

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Speaker 4: And Jerry basically said, you know, there's recommendations and then

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Speaker 4: there's recommendations from somebody that knows, and then the way

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Speaker 4: he said it, so basically Zimmer put it on Jerry, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: this guy, you want this guy. I leaned on this guy.

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Speaker 4: This is this is a good move for you. And

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Speaker 4: so they did it. They brought him in. We talked

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Speaker 4: about Dalvin Cook last year on this show here it

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Speaker 4: was coming off injury, didn't really jive with the Jets,

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Speaker 4: ended up with Baltimore, and of course they got put

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Speaker 4: out of the playoffs. He potentially is fully healed, now

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Speaker 4: be interested and we would get a chance to talk

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Speaker 4: to Dalvin Cook. But I just think that mixed. Once again,

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Speaker 4: what are they not telling us? You know, Mike out

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Speaker 4: here praised the Elik Davis. Malik is cut. So now

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Speaker 4: you've got Ezekiel Elliott not hearing anybody say he's going

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Speaker 4: to be the bell Cow guy. He's going to be

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Speaker 4: our I'm not hearing that. So she got Rico o'dowdell,

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Speaker 4: you got Hunter Limpke, and now you to add Dalvin

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Speaker 4: Cook in the room. There's just a lot a lot

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Speaker 4: of gumbo. Ain't no one chili. It's a lot of gumbo. Now,

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Speaker 4: got a lot of gumbo in here. So that means

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Speaker 4: a lot of guys can potentially get the football here.

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Speaker 4: So I'll be interested to see exactly what they.

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Speaker 3: Do at this point in the season.

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Speaker 5: You know that the moves that they're making our telltale

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Speaker 5: signs of where they feel like their weaknesses are. I mean,

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Speaker 5: we bought in a cornerback, we bought in another defensive tackle.

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Speaker 5: So you can tell me what you think all you

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Speaker 5: want to. I'm looking at your moves and this isn't

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Speaker 5: one of those in season you know, gamesmanship type of moves. No,

515
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Speaker 5: they're trying to strengthen this fifty three and they're going

516
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Speaker 5: to continue to turn as they see need. And so

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Speaker 5: you bring in a guy, You bring in a guy

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Speaker 5: like Dalvin Cook, and that says to me that, look,

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Speaker 5: if we go to game day, we've got to have

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Speaker 5: two guys in his backfield that we can bet on,

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Speaker 5: and right now I don't feel like we have that.

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Speaker 5: And so what does Dalvin Cook bring that the rest

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Speaker 5: of those guys don't. And look, as you just just

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Speaker 5: narrated that, look Dalvin Cook last season, he was hurt.

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Speaker 5: I mean, nobody would touch him besides the Jets. Who

526
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Speaker 5: did the Jets half the Jets had a guy by

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Speaker 5: the name of Breece Hall that was coming off of

528
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Speaker 5: a knee injury. But oh, by the way, he legit

529
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Speaker 5: all right, he was fine, he was he was hell,

530
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Speaker 5: he was here, and the situation was nothing like Dalvin

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Speaker 5: Cook originally thought he went into New York because look, man,

532
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Speaker 5: this this young guy is for real in New York.

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Speaker 5: But you know, I look at the way that he

534
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Speaker 5: ended last season, only had five carries in those last

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Speaker 5: two games. Then he goes on to Baltimore, and I

536
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Speaker 5: think those are forgettable reps.

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Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, I'm laughing because I'm just thinking about you know,

538
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Speaker 4: Dalvin is probably looking just man, priest is hurt, he's hurt,

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Speaker 4: and you know he look out that you see the

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Speaker 4: guy running and then somebody.

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Speaker 9: Just like.

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Speaker 3: Not as hurt as we thought, not as hurt as

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Speaker 3: we thought. And that's uh.

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Speaker 4: Bill walshton that to Steve Young, Yeah, because Steve Young

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Speaker 4: saw he was with that forty. Yes, you said Joe's

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Speaker 4: you said Joe's hurt like the back you said he

547
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Speaker 4: was hurting.

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Speaker 3: Bill wats kind of game looked.

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Speaker 5: Like yeah, yeah, oh oh well not as hurt as

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Speaker 5: we thought.

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Speaker 3: But I mean when you look at when you look

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Speaker 3: at Dalvin.

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Speaker 5: Cook again, and I just said it, man, it's it's

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Speaker 5: all about him staying healthy.

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Speaker 3: If they if he can stay healthy.

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Speaker 5: And we've seen when he was, you know, running on

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Speaker 5: the Kevin Stefanski, which I think the Kevin Stefanski Mike

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Speaker 5: Zimmer we're gonna talk about this next week. The the

559
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Speaker 5: parallel between those two. I think it's gonna be interesting

560
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Speaker 5: going into Cleveland. But the best years that you got

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Speaker 5: out of Dalvin Cook, not only was he a runner,

562
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Speaker 5: He's also a guy that can receive out of the backfield.

563
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Speaker 5: So he is multi dimensional in that way. And the

564
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Speaker 5: biggest question that you ask yourself is is he healthy?

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Speaker 5: If you're saying zeke, I'm just gonna push it to

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Speaker 5: five hundred.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

568
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Speaker 5: If he's gonna get you five Hunter Lifkey, whatever those

569
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Speaker 5: numbers are gonna be, We're gonna like, there's your gumbo,

570
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Speaker 5: there's your gumbo. This is how we're mixing it up

571
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Speaker 5: because there are a lot of packages that I believe

572
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Speaker 5: that Mike McCarthy is gonna experiment with the over these

573
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Speaker 5: first quarter of games just to figure out what that

574
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Speaker 5: running back room is gonna look like.

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Speaker 4: Here's the most important package and they failed at this

576
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Speaker 4: last year, the red zone package, of course too many times,

577
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Speaker 4: especially inside the five yard learning they had problems. To

578
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Speaker 4: me when I look at the move for Dalvin Cook, Okay,

579
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Speaker 4: here's Dalvin Cook, here's Ezekiel Elliott. We're trying to figure

580
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Speaker 4: out who can get this ball into the end zone here,

581
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Speaker 4: and uh, I know Link had the.

582
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Speaker 3: Funled inside the one again.

583
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Speaker 4: So he's got he's got work he's got to do

584
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 4: to gain confidence back. You got Rico Daddle. They are

585
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Speaker 4: looking at we're going to try to fix with these

586
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Speaker 4: four players. We're going to try to fix how we

587
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Speaker 4: can punch this thing in inside the red zone, especially

588
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Speaker 4: inside the five because that was a critical area which

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Speaker 4: I think they lost at least two football games last

590
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Speaker 4: year by not being able to have it, possibly possibly three.

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Speaker 5: Game imagine that, I mean, and in those situations which

592
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Speaker 5: are documented and you saw it, and just going back

593
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Speaker 5: to the Miami game, losing Zeke in that situation I

594
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Speaker 5: think was big because you lose your biggest red zone

595
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Speaker 5: threat and having that back, how does this mix because

596
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Speaker 5: we still haven't yet, even through the preseason, we haven't

597
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 5: seen that change that back that is okay, he could

598
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Speaker 5: take this sixty yards. We haven't even seen any of

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Speaker 5: those types of runs.

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Speaker 4: So now you got it? All right, great, I'm glad

601
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Speaker 4: you brought it up. Guess what, you don't have it? Yeah, boom,

602
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Speaker 4: there you go. So there's no TP. Tony Polk ain't

603
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Speaker 4: walking through that door. Tony door Set, ain't walking through

604
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Speaker 4: that You don't have it. Old Zeke twenty sixteen, Z

605
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Speaker 4: he's not walking through that door. That's not going to

606
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Speaker 4: be your game.

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Speaker 5: And I think that's why you and that's why you

608
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Speaker 5: bet on Tony Parlard last year, was because you were

609
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Speaker 5: saying he's that game breaker, he's that game changer, and

610
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Speaker 5: you never saw that, even when you tagged him for

611
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Speaker 5: all that money, you never saw him be that guy

612
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Speaker 5: because he only gave you one one hundred yard game

613
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Speaker 5: last season and you said he was top ten. And

614
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Speaker 5: I'm saying this, I'm misused him.

615
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Speaker 4: What So skip Pete form a running back coach.

616
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Speaker 3: Skip set.

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Speaker 4: When you had a guy like Pollard, you just don't

618
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Speaker 4: make him your one guy and try to He's a

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Speaker 4: part of a tandem. And the best usage you can

620
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Speaker 4: go out of him was that kind of thunder lightning

621
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Speaker 4: thing between Zeke and Pollard. The problem was they probably

622
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Speaker 4: needed to change around the dynamic in making Tony maybe

623
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Speaker 4: the starter more and getting him more playing time before

624
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Speaker 4: they actually made him the starter. But he said, don't

625
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Speaker 4: just put him back there and just say go be

626
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Speaker 4: the one guy, Go be the workhorse. That's not the

627
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Speaker 4: best use of his talent, I mean, And to me,

628
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Speaker 4: I think he was correct.

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Speaker 3: So I'm gonna just say this.

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Speaker 5: I thought that last year Tony poly Rico dalore like

631
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Speaker 5: kind of like one and the same. You didn't get

632
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Speaker 5: as much of the change of pace that you needed

633
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Speaker 5: from those two guys as running backs in that backfield.

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Speaker 3: That's all.

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Speaker 5: That's really all I can point to because really newly, fundamentally,

636
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Speaker 5: I believe that a good running back and a good

637
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Speaker 5: defense can win your championship.

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Speaker 3: That's just what I believe.

639
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 5: But that's to me, I found now that a lot

640
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Speaker 5: of people view that as being a dated, dated train

641
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 5: of thought when it comes down to football, because this

642
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 5: is a past centric league. You need a guy in

643
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Speaker 5: those moments where you're just talking about two to three

644
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Speaker 5: games that would have been decided if you could score

645
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Speaker 5: down in the red zone.

646
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Speaker 3: That's big.

647
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Speaker 5: That's the difference between being a one seed are playing

648
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Speaker 5: in the wildcard. You feel what I'm saying, So I

649
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Speaker 5: just look where. That's where I really feel like. Look,

650
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 5: you are hanging on to everything you hear coming off

651
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 5: of these boards of who's being cut, because you're still

652
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Speaker 5: trying to find that guy. I don't think they're done.

653
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Speaker 5: I don't think they're done looking for running backs because

654
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Speaker 5: you can't. You can't bet the house that Dalvin Cook

655
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Speaker 5: can be an eight hundred yard rusher for the season.

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Speaker 3: I'm not looking for eight hundred from him. I'm looking

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Speaker 3: for you.

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Speaker 4: Just say Smorgas, board of these guys together, Okay, that's

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Speaker 4: why I got Zeke under five hundred. I think this

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Speaker 4: is going to be a true committee of guys. We'll

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Speaker 4: ride who's hot, we'll ride the situation. We'll see where

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Speaker 5: At the end of the season. If it's fifteen yard,

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Speaker 5: it's a success. If you have three guys or two

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Speaker 5: guys with five hundred yards rushing, this is sea you

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Speaker 5: would call it a successful experiment if you get that right.

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Speaker 4: I'm not looking so much at the numbers to say,

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Speaker 4: hey man, five five for Cook and and five for Zeke.

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Speaker 3: Give me the are you converting in the red zone

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Speaker 3: and scoring. Okay, good deal. You know, are you are

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Speaker 3: you able?

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Speaker 4: Are you able to complement your quarterback Dak Prescott and

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Speaker 4: your defense? That's more I'm more concerned about that than

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Speaker 4: I am necessarily yards, because we've seen we've seen people

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Speaker 4: get that. You know, these diet coke empty calorie yards

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Speaker 4: a lot. You know, you get down, you know you

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Speaker 4: can get down in a game. The next thing you know,

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Speaker 4: you're filling the stat sheet up. You look at the

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Speaker 4: numbers in the Packer game. Okay, that adds some numbers,

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Speaker 4: but the competitive phase was over. So I'm more concerned about,

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Speaker 4: you know, how are you winning games than the numbers,

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Speaker 4: because you could you could have Ezekiel Elliott have a

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Speaker 4: forty nine yard rushing day, but he could have some

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Speaker 4: really critical plays where he's moving the ball on third

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Speaker 4: and two or he's scoring inside that red zone, and

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Speaker 4: then that's more of an effectiveness there. So I don't

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Speaker 4: think necessarily looking at numbers are going to tell me

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Speaker 4: what I needed to get out of these guys as

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Speaker 4: much as hey, what.

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Speaker 3: Are the wins looking like? How are we able to

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Speaker 4: How are we able to keep moving the ball and

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Speaker 4: allow Dak because if we're if it's me, what is Mike.

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Speaker 4: Mike's a passing guy, always been a passing guy. Can

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Speaker 3: That's what I would not want, And I.

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Speaker 5: Guess and the only reason why I was questioning that

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Speaker 5: hand it off to a guy like Ezekiel Elite, if

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Speaker 5: you could score down in the red zone, I just

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Speaker 5: think that one. Even going back to those those those

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Speaker 5: five losses, these are five games that you had where again,

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Speaker 5: if you're able to convert, convert, you're able to win

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Speaker 5: those games, as you pointed out.

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Speaker 3: But then going back to the.

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Speaker 5: Green Bay playoff game, if early that first quarter, if

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Speaker 5: But I'm saying if you can run the ball, convert,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Kyle Yeomans and myself will be on the call.

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Speaker 5: So Emmy winning, Kyle, how about that? About that back

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Speaker 4: good luck to you guys as you get ready to

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Speaker 4: do that here back here on the players lounge. Who's

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Speaker 4: the biggest threat to the Cowboys in the East. The

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Speaker 4: first thought is Philadelphia. But as I was trying to

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Speaker 4: pick playoff teams, we know every year there's shuffles. It

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Speaker 4: shuffles around. And Dan Quinn is in Washington. Now trader trade, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Trader.

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Speaker 5: He left us not the first.

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Speaker 3: Do attorney did it.

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Speaker 4: Once went from being a coordinator here to coordinate a

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Speaker 4: have Kellen Moore, former Cowboy quarterback and coordinator. He's now

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Speaker 4: the offensive coordinator for the philip Eagles. So in your mind,

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Speaker 4: heck Maherrison, who of the three is the biggest threat

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Speaker 5: That's but look, let me just say this, man, it

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Speaker 5: their general manager and the signings that they're making, and

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Speaker 5: guys are not very far removed from going to a

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Speaker 5: super Bowl, super Bowl. But yet here are questions between

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Speaker 5: Sirianni and Jalen Hurts, which to me is absurd between

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Speaker 5: a guy that you paid a substantial amount of money

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Speaker 3: You bring in Saquon Barkley.

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Speaker 5: Obviously your defense doesn't look the way that it used

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Speaker 5: to now that Fletcher Cox has retired. But I think

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Speaker 5: NFC East champion since two thousand and four, and for

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Speaker 5: good reason, because bad teams all of a sudden become good.

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Speaker 5: And I think dan Quinn, because I loved him so

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Speaker 5: he is a real, true culture builder and he's going

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Speaker 5: to do exactly that down in Washington, DC that I

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Speaker 5: think with that rookie quarterback man, they have an opportunity

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Speaker 5: to surprise a lot of people. I do know that

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Speaker 5: And I don't want to just discount the New York Giants,

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Speaker 5: but right now the Giants don't look like they're putting

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Speaker 4: Look all we had to do is watch the heart

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Speaker 4: that heart knocks, and just I didn't understand the strategy.

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Speaker 4: I go back into the strategy. I'm with you in

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Speaker 4: terms of looking at Washington because he has meaning, dan Quinn,

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Speaker 4: He's got institutional knowledge of what's here.

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Speaker 3: He knows it.

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Speaker 4: I was so right about Kellen Moore with the Chargers.

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Speaker 4: Remember Church was fighting me on it fighting.

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Speaker 3: I'm like that, ain't it? Man?

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Speaker 4: And I was also right in terms of Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 4: from Kelly Moore. So Kellen Moore goes out to the Chargers.

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Speaker 5: Kellen went to a seat. Let's be fair, though, Kellen

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Speaker 5: Kellen got on a sinking ship. That thing was already

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Speaker 4: What was what were we told about what Justin Herbert

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Speaker 4: to Justin Hurry. He's with a better quarterback. Okay, Justin

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Speaker 4: herb about to blow m v ple that that was

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Speaker 4: Dak goes to Mike McCarthy and leads the league in

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Speaker 4: touchdown pass It happened to Justin Herbert. Well, Justin Herbert

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Speaker 4: Kellen Wore's out of a job. So we saw how

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Speaker 4: that thing just imploded. So now you're gonna go work

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Speaker 4: with Jalen Hurts, who was having a couple questionable issues

874
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Speaker 4: last year. People started, you know, chirping about him despite

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Speaker 4: you know, being the super Bowl the year before. Jalen

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Speaker 4: Hurts is not the same kind of quarterback with Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 4: They're different quarterbacks. Okay, Okay, they're different. Their strengths are different.

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Speaker 3: Because of his legs.

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Speaker 4: Okay, and I think Dak is I think Dak has

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00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 4: a better arm. So good players, but different. You know,

881
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 4: so many times people are thinking, yo, black quarterbacks. You know,

882
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 4: they're not. They're not. They're just not so that's why

883
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Speaker 4: I would just say I think I'm just not sold

884
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:09,760
Speaker 4: on Calimore. And also knowing that the general manager, Howie Roseman,

885
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 4: likes to be involved, Yeah, well they want to collaborations.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how to go other And.

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Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying for so many times you hear

888
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 5: how Howie Roseman's name comes come up as the genius

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00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 5: that gets these guys signed. And you know it made

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00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 5: it to Philadelphia Bulldogs with all the Georgia acquisitions that

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00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 5: they made out there. But I mean, look, I think

892
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 5: no matter what, you could, possibly the Cowboys could could

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00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 5: repeat as NFC He's champions. It'd be a twenty years

894
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 5: since it's been done, but they are going to have

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Speaker 5: the number one stop the run that happens. If the

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Speaker 5: Cowboys do that, then I'm looking at a team that

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Speaker 5: obviously offensively. If Dak Prescott and Ceedee Lamb they have

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00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 5: a connection coming into this season, that doesn't take them

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Speaker 5: five games to get started.

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Speaker 4: Correct. Yeah, Hey, look, you know so on my head

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00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 4: said off the run and also be able to run

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Speaker 4: the ball in the red zone.

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Speaker 3: Half full sure, I hope you have full so on

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Speaker 3: the record.

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Speaker 4: Biggest threat in the NFC East of the Cowboys is.

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Speaker 3: For Heck Mahers. I'm going to Philadelphia, go Washington, Okay,

907
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Speaker 3: I am going to go Washington.

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00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 4: The institutional knowledge of Dan Quinn and his belief of

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00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 4: being able to get because people up there and players

910
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 4: up there, they're starving for something different what he brought

911
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 4: here and how that defense was changed around here. I

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00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 4: believe he can do some of those same things for

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Speaker 4: them as well. Not saying it's going to necessarily result

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Speaker 4: in them winning the East or making the play, but

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Speaker 4: I do think we're going to see some you know,

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Speaker 4: they're They're not going to be They're not going to

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Speaker 4: be an easy game on Sunday.

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Speaker 5: What are your thoughts on rookie quarterbacks, because most people

919
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 5: believe the same thing about rookie quarterbacks. So you think,

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Speaker 5: you know that Daniels, obviously in his first year at Washington,

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Speaker 5: can have a substantial amount of success to lead them

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Speaker 5: to a championship or just NFC East championship.

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Speaker 4: Honestly, I have not seen enough of the young man

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Speaker 4: to make a determination here in the preseason, but I'm

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Speaker 4: a fan of Cliff Kingsbury. I think he's I think

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Speaker 4: he understands offenses, very well. You just kind of look

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Speaker 4: at his track record there and I just the biggest

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Speaker 4: thing is just keep him in games and if you

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Speaker 4: can get this thing to the fourth quarter. And we

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Speaker 4: know they have defensive especially the D line, They've got

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Speaker 4: talent there. It's just been a matter of unlocking it.

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Speaker 4: And I think that Dan Quinn will be able to

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Speaker 4: unlock some things that Ron Rivera was not able to do.

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Speaker 3: In Washington.

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Speaker 4: I also think Ron had too much on his plate

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Speaker 4: in Washington as well. Dan's gonna be able to coach

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Speaker 4: the team. They've got people in front office to run it.

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Speaker 4: They have Ron doing a lot of stuff here, so

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Speaker 4: I think they can be improved approved overall organization from that. Heck,

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Speaker 4: this was fun, man, Will Yeah, we'll get after it

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Speaker 4: on Monday.

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Speaker 3: Didn't take us long to disagree. Or Tuesday, Tuesday, Tuesday,

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Speaker 3: Labor Day, Labor day, labor Day. I'm not going to

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Speaker 3: make you labor on Labor Day. Yes, yes, yes, Chris

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Speaker 3: is gonna be working on Labor Day for sure. All right,

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Speaker 3: that's players, Lou goodbye.

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