1 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: From the Bloomberg Interacted Burker's Studios. This is Bloomberg day 2 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: Break for Monday, April third. Coming up today, oil surges 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: as Opec announces a surprise production cut. UBS reportedly may 4 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: cut thirty percent of its workforce after the takeover of 5 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: Credit Suite, we may be nearing a deal for the 6 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: purchase of World Wrestling Entertainment. And Donald Trump's lawyer says 7 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: he'll lead not guilty in Manhattan tomorrow. The National Weather 8 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: Service confirms four tornado's touchdown in New Jersey. Plus the 9 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: US has a pointed message to Russia about a detained 10 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 1: American reporter. I'm Michael barn Or Ahead, I'm John Stashayward 11 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 1: wins for the Mets, Yankees, Knicks, Nets, and Rangers. The 12 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: National Championship Game will be played tonight. That's all straight 13 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: Ahead on Bloomberg day Break, The business news you need 14 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: disturn your day, and just one fifteen minute podcast each 15 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: pointing on Apple's Spotify, the Bloomberg Business App, and everywhere 16 00:00:55,640 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts. Good morning, I'm Nathan Hagar and 17 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: I'm Karon Moscow. Here are the stories we're following today. Karen. 18 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 1: We begin this morning with a jump in oil prices. 19 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: Right now, West Texas Intermediate CREWD is up five and 20 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: a half percent to seventy nine dollars eighty four cents 21 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: of barrel. That's after OPEC Plus announced a surprise production 22 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: cut of more than one million barrels a day. The 23 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: move flies in the face of previous assurances that it 24 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 1: would hold supply steady. We get more from Bloomberg's Christine 25 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 1: Burke in riod. So we're coming off of a pretty 26 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 1: soft quarter for oil prices. Brent was down about seven 27 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: percent in the first quarters. We have seen some weakness 28 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: and that is I think very much why we're seeing 29 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: OPEC Plus take this decision to cut production is they 30 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: have seen that that prices have come down so much. 31 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: We're dealing with a lot of macro and certainty. You've 32 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: got a lot of uncertainty around the Fed, a lot 33 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: of questions about what's going to happen with the banking crisis, 34 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: and so OPEC really stepping in here to try and 35 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: signal to the market that it wants those higher prices. 36 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: Man Bloomberg's Christine Burke says the White House is responding, 37 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: calling opex production cut quote ill advised and we're seeing 38 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: oil stocks rally on the OPEC News Nathan shares of 39 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 1: Chevron and Exxon Mobile or at more than three percent 40 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: in early trading. Haliburton, Marathon Oil, and Schlumberge are all 41 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: lot more than four percent. And another major story this morning, 42 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: Karen centers on massive job cuts at UBS. A Swiss 43 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: newspaper is reporting UBS will cut its workforce by up 44 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: to thirty percent after completing the takeover of Credit Suis. 45 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: We get more from Bloomberg's Russell Ward. These are pretty 46 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 1: dramatic numbers, as many as eleven thousand staff domestically twenty 47 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: five thousand abroad according to the report. That's much more 48 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: than the nine thousand that Sweets was cutting before the takeover. 49 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: But as you say, large scale job cuts do appear 50 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: to be inevitable given the huge overlaps at these two banks. Domestically, 51 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,679 Speaker 1: both banks have branches and main street main streets all 52 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: over the country. You know some of these which just 53 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: simply have to close. And globally UBS has pledged to 54 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 1: downsize Credit Swiss investment banking. This is to fit into 55 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: its conservative cultures, so you can expect cuts abroad to 56 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: center on that area and in another development, Bloomberg's Russell 57 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: Award says Swiss prosecutors are opening an investigation into possible 58 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: crimes linked to the takeover of Credit Suites. And Nathan, 59 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: We've seen a recent rally in tech stocks, but one 60 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: strategist says this surge is overdone. Mike Wilson is CHPUS 61 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,119 Speaker 1: equity strategist at Morgan Stanley and one of the most 62 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: prominent bears on stocks. He warns the tech rally that 63 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: succeeded twenty percent is not sustainable and that the sector 64 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: will eventually hit new lows. Let's zoom out from the 65 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: markets now. Karen and turned to politics for the latest 66 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: developments on the indictment of former President Donald Trump. For that, 67 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: we're joined live by Bloomberg's John Tucker in New York. 68 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: Good morning, John, and Nathan. Trump is expanded to travel 69 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,839 Speaker 1: to New York today and stay overnight at his home 70 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: on Fifth Avenue before his arrangement tomorrow in criminal court. 71 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: He'll be fingerprinted and have a mug shot taken. Trump's attorney, 72 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: Joe Tekapina, was on ABC's This Week, says Trump will 73 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: plead not guilty and called the case a political persecution. 74 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: Had Donald Trump not being Donald Trump and it was 75 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: John Smith. This case now would have been brought if 76 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: he was not running for reelection. There's no way this 77 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: case would have brought. The exact charges haven't been revealed, 78 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: but they are related to hushmoney payments to poor An 79 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: actress Stormy Daniels. Trump isn't making any friends with a 80 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: judge who will be presiding over the case is already 81 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: bashed him on social media. Key streets and Lower Manhattan 82 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 1: will be closed in anticipation of any demonstrations and ours 83 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: anti the Raymond. Trump is expected to return to Florida 84 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: and deliver an evening address from Mara Lago Live in 85 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: New York. I'm John Tucker Bloomberg Daybreak. All right, John, 86 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: thank you. When it comes to the race for the 87 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 1: White House, former President Trump has another challenger. Former Arkansas 88 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 1: Governor Aesa Hutchinson is entering the race for the Republican nomination. 89 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 1: As I've traveled a country for six months, I hear 90 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: people talk about the leadership of our country, and I'm 91 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: convinced that people want leaders that appeal to the best 92 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: of America and not simply appeal to our worst instincts. 93 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: And former Arkansas Governor Aesa Hutchinson says he'll make a 94 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: formal announcement on his presidential run later this month. He 95 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: made the comments on ABC's This Week or Sundays on 96 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio. Let's turn to corporate news now, Karen. Word 97 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: of a possible deal this morning involving World Wrestling Entertainment 98 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: could have a new owner soon. Let's get the latest 99 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: on that, Live with Bloomberg. Steve Rappaford, Good morning, Stave, 100 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: Good morning, Nathan, and Karen. Sources tell us in Debora 101 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: Group Holdings will announce a deal this week to buy 102 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:32,359 Speaker 1: WWE for about nine billion dollars, though it's possible talks 103 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: could still fall through. Founder and majority shareholder Vince McMahon 104 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 1: is expected to remain involved in the business after the deal. 105 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: McMahon left WWE last year after revelations that he paid 106 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: millions of dollars to settle claims of sexual misconduct. The 107 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: seventy seven year old reinstated himself as chairman in January 108 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: to oversee a strategic review of the company. Live in 109 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: New York, I'm Steve Rappaport Bloomberg Daybreak. All right, Steve, 110 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: thank you all. Tesla's shares are hitting the brakes this morning. 111 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: They're down two point one percent in early trading. Sled 112 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: did report record deliveries in the first quarter, but they 113 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: fell short of the pace required to meet Elon muskol 114 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: a fifty percent annual growth. Tesla delivered almost four hundred 115 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: and twenty three thousand cars worldwide last quarter. After it 116 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 1: cut prices and Karen of bankruptcy filing maybe looming for bed, 117 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: Bath and Beyond, the home goods retailer has three weeks 118 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: to raise another three hundred million dollars from equity markets 119 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: that have largely turned against the company. The shares plunged 120 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: fifty percent after it raised three hundred and sixty million 121 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: from a hedge fund. That deal diluted existing shareholders. Straight ahead, 122 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: we'll get your latest local headlines into check of sports. 123 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg. It's thirty nine degrees in New York. 124 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 1: We have a frost advisor this morning in the suburbs, 125 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: but will be mostly sunny, sixty degrees by this afternoon, 126 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: mostly cloudy tonight, headed down to around fifty. Let's take 127 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: a look at some of the other stories making news 128 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 1: in New York and around the world. With Bloomberg's Michael 129 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 1: bar Good morning, Michael, Good morning, Nathan. The National Weather 130 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 1: Service confirmed that ford tornado it's touched down over the weekend. 131 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: In New Jerry. One twister hit Jackson Township. This woman 132 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 1: and her fiance got an alert on their cell phones 133 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: and took cover. Lights started flickering and then eventually went off, 134 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: and we grabbed flashlights and went to the basement as 135 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: fast as we could. Jackson Township residents woke up to 136 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: find downed power lines and trees brought to the ground. 137 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: Weekend tornadoes killed more than two dozen people in several states, 138 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: including five fatalities in Arkansas. Tornadoes were reported spanning from 139 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: Alabama to as far north as Delaware. Arkansas Governor Sarah 140 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: Huckaby Sanders says they're preparing for more severe weather that 141 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: is forecast for the region tomorrow. Huckaby Sanders spoke in 142 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: wind which took a direct tornado hit. What I found 143 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: to be so amazing are the people who are stepping up, 144 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: not just from this community but across all of Arkansas, 145 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: coming together and helping build their neighbors up. Almost four 146 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: hundred thousand people are without power across a dozen states, 147 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: Senator John Feederman is talking about his inpatient treatment for 148 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: clinical depression. He spends six weeks in Washington d ses 149 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: Walter Read Medical Center. The Pennsylvania Democrat was released on 150 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: Friday and returned to his home. His office said his 151 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:17,119 Speaker 1: depression is in remission. During an interview with CBS Sunday morning, 152 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: he recalled feeling low the ninety one the election to 153 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: the Senate. It's like you just won the biggest race 154 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: in the country. And the whole thing about depression is 155 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 1: is that objectively you may have won, but the depression 156 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 1: can absolutely convince you that you actually lost. And that's 157 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: exactly what happened, and that was the start of a 158 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: downward spiral. Feederman suffered a stroke last May when he 159 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: was a candidate for the Senate. A deadly bomb attack 160 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: in Russia has killed a pro Russian military blogger and 161 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: art and supporter of the war in Ukraine. Dozens of 162 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: people were injured in the blast and explosive device ripped 163 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 1: through a cafe in the heart of Saint Petersburg. The attack, 164 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: looking like an assassin nation killed Maxim Foeman, who used 165 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: the pseudonym Vladmin Tatarski on his blogs. Global news twenty 166 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: four hours a day, powered by more than twenty seven 167 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: hundred journalists and analysts in over one hundred twenty countries. 168 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 1: I'm Michael bar This is Bloomberg, Nathan. Thank you Michael, 169 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: now for the Bloomberg Sports Update. Good morning, John stash Hour, 170 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: Good morning Nathan. It was a Sunday where seven New 171 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: York area professional teams played. The Islanders and Devils both 172 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: lost on the road, but the other five one including 173 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 1: the Nixon Rangers, who both beat teams from Washington. Knicks 174 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: at the Garden over the Wizards one eighteen one oh nine, 175 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 1: first time in five years. Nicks had four players scored 176 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: more than twenty points, Jalen Brunson, Quentin Grimes, Manual Quickly 177 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: and Obie Top and Nick's clinch a playoff. Birth Rangers 178 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,559 Speaker 1: were in Washington, jumped in front three nothing went on 179 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: to beat the Capitols five to two. The Nets led 180 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 1: Utah by twenty in the fourth quarter of the league 181 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,959 Speaker 1: schrump to one. Nets held on one ten. They lead 182 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: Miami by two games. Teams in the race to finish 183 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: sixth in the East and avoid the play And so 184 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: that was in Brooklyn. In the Bronx a tape measure shot. 185 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: Stead in swings, girls flop the deep glove center feel 186 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: up ball is high. That is fuck hoo us god 187 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: shut Oh what a shot. That is a Stantonian home 188 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 1: run A plus drilled the deep glove center n WFA 189 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: and four hundred and eighty five feet longest for John 190 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: Carlos Stanton since a five hundred footer in twenty sixteen 191 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 1: when he was with Miami. Aaron Judge also Homer started 192 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 1: Kyle de Gasha. Yoka Yankees blanked the Giant six nothing, 193 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: already their second shutout victory the Mets, also with solid 194 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: pitching from Kodai Singa and his Met's debut, they won 195 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 1: five one at Miami. Tommy fam had three hits, three 196 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: RBIs LSU won at first ever NCUBA Women's Championship one 197 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: h two to eighty five over Iowa, highest scoring title 198 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: game ever. Yukon and San Diego State meet tonight in 199 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: Houston to decide the men's championship. John Stash Howard Bloomberg 200 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: Sports live from coast to coast, from New York to 201 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: San Francisco, Boston to Washington, DC, nationwide on Sirius Exam 202 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 1: The Bloomberg Business app and Bloomberg dot Com. This is 203 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Daybreak. Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager. We are getting 204 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: the second quarter of twenty twenty three started with a 205 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: surgeon energy stocks this morning. The surprise announcement from OPEC 206 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: Plus that it's taking more than a million barrels of 207 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: oil off the market per day has shaken this market. 208 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: So let's get more on what the potential impact could 209 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: be as we head into this new quarter. For that, 210 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: we are joined live by Laurie Calvacin ahead of US 211 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: Equity Strategy at RBC Capital Markets. Laurie, good morning. Do 212 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: you change your equity strategy now that OPEC plus seems 213 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: to have changed its strategy? Well, thanks for having me, 214 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: Honor Vollways, Nathan, and look, there's no change in our 215 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 1: strategy here in terms of sectors. We've been telling people 216 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 1: here to keep a balance between defense, between values, sequicality 217 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: and the growth trade. And it's because of you know, 218 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: the kind of moves we saw on track in the 219 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: first quarter and the kind of move were likely to 220 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: see an energy today. We feel like this is a 221 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 1: market that's bouncing along, you know, sort of a bottom 222 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 1: sort of a similar messy normalization period of what we 223 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: had in O two, O three, And we think that 224 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: sector trades in terms of leadership can be vicious in 225 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: terms of their ability to shift direction quickly. And we 226 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: frankly have thought that energy was one of the babies 227 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: that was getting thrown out with the bathwater. Over the 228 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: last few weeks, valuations have been very, very cheap. I've 229 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: got cheaper in recent weeks and now we've got this 230 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: surprise cut. So I I think energy will have a 231 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: good day, and I think it's it's a part of 232 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: the market that deserves to have one. What's the potential 233 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: macroeconomic impact of oil this much oil being taken off 234 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 1: the market potentially, and does that have a bleed through 235 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: into stocks more broadly besides sector moves. Well, look, I 236 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 1: think we can always, you know, kind of trace everything 237 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: back these days to the inflation argument and the FED. 238 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: I think the FED does, you know, look at inflation 239 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: in terms of what it can control, so we'll see how, 240 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: you know, shake out they're going forward in terms of 241 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: different speeches. I'm not overly worried there because of the 242 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: banking crisis, because we are still seeing outside of energy, 243 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: you know, a good trend in moderation and inflation. And 244 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: in fact, we actually wrote this morning about the Duke's 245 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: CFO survey that came out last week where some of 246 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: the questions actually spoke to the seeds of inflation, specifically 247 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: pricing and wage growth, where CFOs optimism or you know, 248 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 1: sort of expectations have taken a hit both for this 249 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 1: year and next year. So we think inflation is headed 250 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: in the right direction, despite you know, what you might 251 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 1: get from energy markets. Tell me a little bit more 252 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 1: about why you think inflation is heading in the right direction. 253 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 1: We have seen some moderation in the Federal reserves preferred 254 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: measure of inflation. Do you think that's the trajectory that 255 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 1: we're going toward? That we could see either further moderation 256 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: or a further slowdown in inflation. So our economists have 257 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: been arguing that we're sort of headed back to the 258 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: three percent type area at the end of the year. 259 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: If you look at core CPI specifically, and if you 260 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: look at consensus expectations within Bloomberg on the ECFC function, 261 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: if you look at things like PC and core PC 262 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 1: for quite some time, they've been headed back down in 263 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: that direction. So I think that you know, despite all 264 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: the noise that we've been seeing in the marketplace over 265 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: this debate, that's really been sort of a core belief 266 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: of the professional forecasting community, and that's really been guiding 267 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: a lot of things. And in addition to know sort 268 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: of what we heard from the CFO survey and what 269 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: we saw on the PC data last week, you know, 270 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: we are continuing to see good improvement in supply chains. 271 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: Something else our economists wrote about recently was how he 272 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: looked at all the regional federal reserves surveys that have 273 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: come out recently. They've all been showing weakness in the 274 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: services sector, and that's something that we don't often see 275 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: when all five regions are an agreement on that. So 276 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: I think, no matter where you look, you're seeing you Yes, 277 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: inflation is still high. Yes, it is still a pain 278 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: that that moderation does seem to be in place. So 279 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: do you think then that the market is right to 280 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: be pricing in rate cuts from the Fed this year? 281 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: A lot of the commentary we're hearing from Fed speakers 282 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: is that's really not on the table at this point. Well, look, 283 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: I think the FED always ends up being data dependent, 284 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: and if you talk to our economists, they are they 285 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: are baking in a couple of cuts later this year. 286 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: I think there is some degree of uncertainty in the forecast. 287 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: But what we have seen if you look at market 288 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: based expectations on the FED, no matter where people were 289 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: before PRESCB on terminal, you know cuts, people are pricing 290 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: in a less aggressive or more accommodative FED for both 291 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: this year and next year than they were previously. So 292 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: interest rate expectations bottom line. You know, we can all 293 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: fight about, you know, the exact member cuts, the exact 294 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: level of terminal, but expectations are getting rained in and 295 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: that's ultimately supportive of pe multiples in the stock market. 296 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: So in our last thirty seconds before we pick up 297 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: this conversation after the commercial break, what does that mean 298 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: for earnings expectations if we do see a little bit 299 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: more moderation from this FED. So look, I think that 300 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: one of the key things about, you know, sort of 301 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: the FED debate is just its feed through into uncertainty 302 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: in terms of outlooks from companies. I think it will 303 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: end up keeping guidance conservative, even if companies still tell 304 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: us they weren't affected by SVB or they have the 305 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: ability you know, to kind of manage whatever gets thrown 306 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: at them. But I think that's really just, you know, 307 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: the idea that it weighs on uncertainty and adds to 308 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: that uncertainty is the big read through. 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