Speaker 1: We're new to filming. We're just like a couple episodes in.
Speaker 1: I don't think we'd been filming for even a month
Speaker 1: at that point, and we weren't getting the scene that
Speaker 1: you guys wanted. And I understand how this works. I've
Speaker 1: been on camera for many, many years or many times
Speaker 1: prior to that, so I'm like, I'm just gonna give
Speaker 1: you what you want. Tell me what you want me
Speaker 1: to do, and I will do it so I can wrap.
Speaker 1: And you're like, put these on and you handed me
Speaker 1: eight or nine inches to the lettles by Gucci open towel. Beautiful.
Speaker 1: But I also think I said, huh, just promise me
Speaker 1: this isn't going to be like the way people think
Speaker 1: of me for all times and like an opening scene.
Speaker 1: And you're like, I can't promise you that, but I'll
Speaker 1: try opening scene me walking to white Pool instill Lettos.
Speaker 1: That is all Carlos, Yes, and I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 1: It did make my legs look super hot.
Speaker 2: Stay tuned look into my conversation with Danielle Stouths right
Speaker 2: after quick ads.
Speaker 3: Welcome to Reality with the King.
Speaker 2: It's me Carlos King, the King of Reality TV and
Speaker 2: one of the most sought after executive producers in reality television.
Speaker 3: With over ten years of production.
Speaker 2: Experience, I've executive produced top rated programs such as eight
Speaker 2: seasons of the.
Speaker 3: Real Housewives of Atlanta.
Speaker 2: Additionally, I have created shows such as Netflix Is Styling,
Speaker 2: Hollywood Owns, number one rated Love and Marriage Franchise, and
Speaker 2: TV one's Hollywood.
Speaker 3: Divas, just to name a few.
Speaker 2: Twice a week on Reality with the King, we'll sit
Speaker 2: down with my friends across the entertainment industry, recap our
Speaker 2: favorite reality shows and revisit I forget about moments that
Speaker 2: we are still talking and tweeting about. Hey, rain drops.
Speaker 2: On today's podcast, Reality with the King, I got someone
Speaker 2: that I considered to be one of the greatest housewives
Speaker 2: of all time. She was actually number ten on my list. Honey,
Speaker 2: that's right. I'm talking about the iconic legend herself, Danielle Style.
Speaker 3: Look I love me some Danielle.
Speaker 2: As you all know, I produced the first two seasons
Speaker 2: of the Real Housewives of New Jersey, and I was
Speaker 2: Danielle's producer season one.
Speaker 3: Season two, she told me not to come to our
Speaker 3: house child. We talk about that.
Speaker 2: We also talk about her experience being on the show
Speaker 2: how I feel she doesn't get the credit she deserves
Speaker 2: for the success of the Real Housewives of New Jersey. Yes,
Speaker 2: Teresa is an icon of the legend and I love
Speaker 2: her too. However, I think Danielle needs to get the
Speaker 2: same exact credit as Teresa because they both made the
Speaker 2: show a hit. And that's coming straight from me. We
Speaker 2: also get into her relationship with Melissa Gorga and whether
Speaker 2: or not she was fired after pulling Margaret's hair. Yes, honey,
Speaker 2: we talk about it all. So without further ado get
Speaker 2: into my conversation.
Speaker 3: With my girl, Danielle Stou.
Speaker 2: Where were you when you found out that I coined
Speaker 2: you as number ten of the greatest housewives of all time?
Speaker 1: Literally sitting about right where I am now, and I'm
Speaker 1: sipping my tea as I am now, and I'm looking
Speaker 1: at my phone. Let's pretend it's here, and I'm like, huh,
Speaker 1: I got an alert Carlos King wait what page six?
Speaker 1: What what's happening? And I'm like, holy shit. Finally he's
Speaker 1: like speaking for me, and I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I'm so honored. I nearly fell off my chair. I
Speaker 1: ran around, like wanting to tell somebody, but when you're alone,
Speaker 1: it's not as like it doesn't have as big of
Speaker 1: a well, but it can today, Like I can tell
Speaker 1: everybody today. I think I reposted it like thirty times.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know what pages I was reposting it from.
Speaker 1: I just ran with it because not for nothing, it's
Speaker 1: huge to me. You came into my life at the
Speaker 1: same time our lives collided on the show. Yes, and
Speaker 1: without you, just like you said, there would be no
Speaker 1: season two without me in season one and no table
Speaker 1: Flip and without all that. There would have been none
Speaker 1: of that without you because you were holding my hand,
Speaker 1: guiding me. I mean, we were fourteen eighteen hours a
Speaker 1: day sometimes go into it.
Speaker 3: Let me tell y'all.
Speaker 2: So I wasn't a social producer.
Speaker 3: You guys know the story.
Speaker 2: My first reality show was The Real Housewalds at Atlanta
Speaker 2: in two thousand and eight, and I did that during
Speaker 2: the summer, I was called to do The Real Housewalts
Speaker 2: of New Jersey, and you guys know that I was
Speaker 2: assigned to Nimi Leagues on Atlanta and on New Jersey.
Speaker 2: I was assigned to Danielle Staub, That's right, and.
Speaker 3: We instantly fell in love.
Speaker 2: And that opening shot of Danielle wearing the heels going
Speaker 2: to the pool was my idea.
Speaker 1: It was all your idea. I mean, I have taken
Speaker 1: so many people have said, you know, you could have
Speaker 1: just like Warren flats or flips. That's what people do.
Speaker 1: I'm like, in my mind, I would say every time
Speaker 1: and reply, but never publicly, like bitch, I wore flip flops.
Speaker 1: They made me put these on because it was either
Speaker 1: that or we would keep filming until we found something
Speaker 1: that would that wow factor. So here's how it went.
Speaker 1: I was getting my you know, my monthly you know,
Speaker 1: a little visitor, and I was becoming very cranky and angry.
Speaker 1: And we're new to filming. We're just like a couple
Speaker 1: episodes in. I don't think we'd been filming for even
Speaker 1: a month at that point, and we weren't getting the
Speaker 1: scene that you guys wanted. And I understand how this works.
Speaker 1: I've been on camera for many, many years and many
Speaker 1: times prior to that. So I'm like, I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: give you what you want. Tell me what you want
Speaker 1: me to do, and I will do it so I
Speaker 1: can wrap. And you're like, put these on, and you
Speaker 1: handed me eight or nine inch stilettos by Gucci, open
Speaker 1: towel beautiful. But I also think I said, huh, just
Speaker 1: promise me, this isn't going to be like the way
Speaker 1: people think of me for all times and like an
Speaker 1: opening scene. And You're like, I can't promise you that,
Speaker 1: but I'll try opening scene me walking to white Pool
Speaker 1: install lettos. That was all Carlos, Yes, and I'll be
Speaker 1: honest with you. It did make my legs look super hot.
Speaker 2: Well, Danielle, you're a hot and that was the thing
Speaker 2: because Danielle was the devorce say on.
Speaker 1: The show Brushley Divorce. It was right on the heels
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 2: And when Carlos King is assigned to you, we're going
Speaker 2: to make iconic moments happen.
Speaker 3: And I knew that.
Speaker 2: I wanted to make sure that the moment you saw
Speaker 2: Danielle Stobb, it had to be memorable. So thank you
Speaker 2: for trusting me. You and I were a great team.
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, If they had assigned me
Speaker 1: anybody else, it wouldn't have gone the same way. I
Speaker 1: get where you're coming from when I meet people or
Speaker 1: they meet me at my level, and you met me
Speaker 1: at my level. You knew what I needed to make
Speaker 1: me shine, and I couldn't have felt comfortable doing that
Speaker 1: and owning my own sexuality and sensuality and and my
Speaker 1: you know, my hotness like I was in my forties.
Speaker 1: But I think that, you know, it's just so many
Speaker 1: times that you know, you and crew will get unnoticed
Speaker 1: for the things that they've done. I've always tried to
Speaker 1: acknowledge the fact that, like you guys made me shine,
Speaker 1: were there every day to make me shine.
Speaker 2: Talk to me about that first season, because one thing
Speaker 2: that I revealed on my podcast is I was the
Speaker 2: one who went underneath the table to hand you the
Speaker 2: book that took place on the table.
Speaker 3: But prior to that, talk to the audience about how.
Speaker 2: You even discovered that there were conversations about this book
Speaker 2: unbeknownst to you that the other cast members were shooting
Speaker 2: scenes about it.
Speaker 1: The discovery of the book came about quite frankly, because
Speaker 1: I was told by Jaccolin, you know, that it was
Speaker 1: circulating and that Dina had been at the helm of that.
Speaker 1: And it didn't matter how it came about. I was
Speaker 1: grateful that I knew about it, because here I am
Speaker 1: living a life different from when I was nineteen and
Speaker 1: twenty years old, and you wouldn't think you'd be judged
Speaker 1: for something you did when you were a kid. You
Speaker 1: think you'd be patted on the back for surviving it,
Speaker 1: or maybe just like curious, how did you get through
Speaker 1: something like that?
Speaker 2: And did Jack want to tell you off camera first? Yeah,
Speaker 2: you kept out a secret for a long time, Danielle.
Speaker 1: I kept a lot of secrets. I still have a
Speaker 1: lot of them vested because I'm just not that person.
Speaker 1: But there's a point in my life that I've gotten
Speaker 1: to now where I realize this is not in any
Speaker 1: way an act of getting back at somebody. It's just
Speaker 1: I'm not going to carry their load anymore. It's a
Speaker 1: lot of it was put on me because I didn't
Speaker 1: speak up.
Speaker 2: You found out the other women were talking about the book.
Speaker 2: Tell the listeners how once you learn that this book
Speaker 2: was a top your conversation. It was your idea to
Speaker 2: bring the book to the finale, not the producers.
Speaker 3: It was Danielle.
Speaker 1: So I'll never forget you actually trying to talk me
Speaker 1: out of it in a in a way that would
Speaker 1: have benefited protecting me, like do you really want that
Speaker 1: out there kind of way? Because what they're saying ain't nice,
Speaker 1: and I'm just trying to let you know. When you
Speaker 1: asked me, so what are we going to do? I said,
Speaker 1: I think I'm going to bring the book and just
Speaker 1: find out if anyone would like to ask me questions,
Speaker 1: being as I'm the only other person besides the author
Speaker 1: that would have had that experience, and you have access
Speaker 1: to me, so why not ask me if it's about me?
Speaker 1: I knew it was going to cause what it caused.
Speaker 1: I am smart enough to know that.
Speaker 2: And remember how we were like you were like we Carlos,
Speaker 2: I can't walk in with the book. And then you
Speaker 2: were like, I'm going to have a purse. I said,
Speaker 2: you know what, put the book in your purse. When
Speaker 2: you come to the restaurant, call me. I'll meet you
Speaker 2: outside while they'll mike you up. Hand me your purse
Speaker 2: because you can't walk in with this big ass book.
Speaker 2: We were shooting for maybe an hour or two and
Speaker 2: you know, nothing was happening, and then we were like,
Speaker 2: you know, what is time for the book. So then
Speaker 2: I leave video village where all the producers are.
Speaker 1: We went on a little break. We all had to
Speaker 1: tidy up. I knew what was coming and I knew
Speaker 1: you were setting the stage for it, and I also
Speaker 1: knew that there were still people that didn't leave the
Speaker 1: dining area and were at the dining table, and it
Speaker 1: was gonna be a little difficult for you to do
Speaker 1: it without people still sitting there. So I'm the last
Speaker 1: to enter after the break, and when I sit down,
Speaker 1: you see me reach under the table. Just that same
Speaker 1: motion and film and the timing was just brilliant. All
Speaker 1: of a sudden, all the cameras start realigning, and that's
Speaker 1: when I'm like, Yeah, it's time, just pick up that book.
Speaker 1: A bam, not.
Speaker 2: A word said, No, not a word, step for like maybe,
Speaker 2: well like an a comfortable thirty minutes. And then finally
Speaker 2: the ice was broken and you had a table flip
Speaker 2: in your direction. So when Teresa flipped that table, what
Speaker 2: were you thinking? Because Dan Yell, what I tell people is,
Speaker 2: prior to that, Teresa was sort of like be underdog,
Speaker 2: Like no one looked at Teresa as being the fort
Speaker 2: is today. So when she flipped it, what were you
Speaker 2: literally thinking in that moment?
Speaker 1: Oh, flashes of warnings from a few of the ladies.
Speaker 1: You know, you don't want to piss her off. She'll flip.
Speaker 2: Did you think in that moment that this would be
Speaker 2: the end of your friendship with Jacqueline? Although she defended
Speaker 2: you and had your back, Did you think in that
Speaker 2: present moment that this would be the end? Because you
Speaker 2: and jackelm were such good friends at that time.
Speaker 1: I knew that we were already moving away from that
Speaker 1: friendship because I would never see it in the way
Speaker 1: of family, and I felt her need to be a
Speaker 1: part of that family so desperately, and who wouldn't. I
Speaker 1: thought that she was and still is, you know, a
Speaker 1: quality human. I don't think she knows very well how
Speaker 1: to express yourself sometimes and it's frustrating to her. And
Speaker 1: that's okay, doesn't make her a bad person, just means,
Speaker 1: you know, our journeys and our friendship came to an
Speaker 1: impath at the time.
Speaker 3: When was the last time you've seen or spoken to Jacqueline?
Speaker 1: At the reunion season two, when I said goodbye and
Speaker 1: I hugged her, that was it. That was it. We're
Speaker 1: talking about somebody that I could leave for the diner
Speaker 1: with my kids and leave her on speakerphone in the
Speaker 1: house and come home and she's still talking like I'm there.
Speaker 1: We talked all day, every day, all day, every day.
Speaker 1: There was sometimes I had to like Jacqueline, I'll leave
Speaker 1: you on speaker, but I gotta shoot the scene right now,
Speaker 1: you remember, I literally, true, literally couldn't hang up the phone. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: stay on with me. I want to hear. I want
Speaker 1: to hear, and you guys would be like, nah, you
Speaker 1: gotta go. And that's when I knew things were really
Speaker 1: going in a different direction, when we started to have
Speaker 1: to be private with each other and I could feel
Speaker 1: she wasn't telling me things that were going on with
Speaker 1: her scenes either anymore. So I just I zipped it. Literally,
Speaker 1: the shift came much with a warning, and so that's
Speaker 1: when I did say goodbye. You know, I meant it.
Speaker 1: I just really wanted her to let me go, you know,
Speaker 1: and not not make this energy continue because I didn't
Speaker 1: want that energy between us. It had gotten, you know,
Speaker 1: it had gotten pretty bad and an off camera as well,
Speaker 1: and I didn't want that. I couldn't have known that,
Speaker 1: I mean, letting go is one thing, but not having
Speaker 1: that be reciprocated. I couldn't have known that that would
Speaker 1: still be I'd still be a problem for them. When
Speaker 1: I literally was just I was happy and appreciative that
Speaker 1: we had our time together, and I understood why it
Speaker 1: had to end. I don't understand the you know.
Speaker 3: Do you miss her?
Speaker 1: Do I miss her? Here's the thing, I'm okay with
Speaker 1: people not being in my life that have done certain
Speaker 1: things to make me believe that they prefer not being
Speaker 1: in my life. I will never want to be around
Speaker 1: someone that doesn't value me again. I valued myself much
Speaker 1: less then than I do now, and I'm also much
Speaker 1: older now, and I understand that at this point in
Speaker 1: my life there will be no way I would be
Speaker 1: friends with women like that. I wasn't friends with them
Speaker 1: prior to the show. I think that I was an
Speaker 1: easy pond for them for their story that they wanted
Speaker 1: to drive. If I'm being one hundred percent completely honest,
Speaker 1: I was there, Patsy. I was their person to put
Speaker 1: blame on for all the things that they needed to
Speaker 1: hide while I was in sweep under the rug, while
Speaker 1: I was thinking we were creating a friendship.
Speaker 2: So you think the other women at the time use
Speaker 2: your storyline what you had going on this book to
Speaker 2: hide their secrets or things they were going through.
Speaker 1: Otherwise it wouldn't have happened the way it happened when
Speaker 1: I removed myself. It wasn't the next season that they
Speaker 1: all turned on Teresa. And then on my birthday, you know,
Speaker 1: the forty two counts of fraud, she was arrested for
Speaker 1: my phone. I wouldn't have even known about it, but
Speaker 1: press was blowing up my phone. My daughter's answered the phone,
Speaker 1: like for TMZ or somebody, and they're like, this is TMZ.
Speaker 1: We want to know Danielle's take, and the blah blah blah,
Speaker 1: and my daughter's like, this is her birthday and we
Speaker 1: want to wish her a happy birthday. Wouldn't she want
Speaker 1: this news? I said, tell them, no, I'm not that
Speaker 1: Why would that make me happy. I don't take other
Speaker 1: people's problems as a good thing. Yeah.
Speaker 2: No. One of the things that is so funny is
Speaker 2: so you and I this season went together, and I
Speaker 2: was your producer, and then the episode started airing, and
Speaker 2: then you who were so mad at me. I was
Speaker 2: banned from Danielle's house. I was banned from being Danielle's producer. Yep,
Speaker 2: Danielle sit me up text saying you did not protect
Speaker 2: me and me and Danielle did not film with each
Speaker 2: other for the entirety of season two.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 1: And they asked me to come back and forth with
Speaker 1: you as my producer, and that's why I didn't come back.
Speaker 1: One of the reasons I didn't come back. I was
Speaker 1: still mad. And then all of a sudden, I realized
Speaker 1: it was like an AHA moment after the show started
Speaker 1: filming when I said I wouldn't come back, when they
Speaker 1: asked me back and four season four, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, Carlos is the reason they all want
Speaker 1: to apologize to me? What the fuck did I just do?
Speaker 1: Because you were I was told by you know, your
Speaker 1: higher up, you're superior herself, the owner of production. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're all like I think they really are sincerely. They've
Speaker 1: been spoken to, and I couldn't figure out. I still
Speaker 1: didn't trust anybody. I was still like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: you know I can't trust anyone. You know, everyone's against me.
Speaker 1: And I was in that mindset of victim, victim victim,
Speaker 1: and I couldn't see that you were fucking raising me up.
Speaker 1: You were trying to and that was my open door
Speaker 1: and I totally missed it because I know it was
Speaker 1: you that had spoken to them like, don't you feel
Speaker 1: kind of bad? Even Caroline wanted to say something, and
Speaker 1: whether it was because she was afraid that there wasn't
Speaker 1: going to be another season unless I came back or not,
Speaker 1: it didn't matter. Someone had gotten in her ear, and
Speaker 1: I believed that you were one of the people that
Speaker 1: was at least one of the people, if not the
Speaker 1: only person that was saying to them, you guys want
Speaker 1: to take another look at what you might have done
Speaker 1: differently with Danielle. Something to that.
Speaker 2: You and I are friends and listen, that's why on
Speaker 2: the bridge, But at that time you felt isolated.
Speaker 1: I thought you were going behind my back and giving
Speaker 1: information that I had. Meanwhile, it was it was them.
Speaker 1: They were looking into me. You had given any of
Speaker 1: my secrets away or the things that I had filmed.
Speaker 1: I just had lost so much trust and there were
Speaker 1: rumors going around about everyone, and I didn't know who
Speaker 1: to believe. I really felt like there was I was
Speaker 1: alone on the island and I needed to isolate myself
Speaker 1: to protect myself. And yeah, I shut you out big time.
Speaker 2: I never took it personally because I always said to
Speaker 2: the producers, because they said to me, Danielle does not.
Speaker 3: Want you around her. You cannot be her producer.
Speaker 2: Anymore, Oh my gosh, and you can't go through any
Speaker 2: of her scenes. And I remember thinking to myself, I
Speaker 2: just want her to know that I understand.
Speaker 3: I listen. I don't know what it feels like to
Speaker 3: be on.
Speaker 2: A show where everybody doesn't like you like that is tough.
Speaker 1: It was really rough. And it wasn't for an episode
Speaker 1: or too like everybody gets their episode where everyone's hating
Speaker 1: on him. I had every episode everyone hating on me.
Speaker 1: I lost trust for everybody, you know. It was it was.
Speaker 1: It was because of the circumstances and carrying that really
Speaker 1: started to mess with my head. That in the physical
Speaker 1: attacks literally, you know, became a little much.
Speaker 2: So let's talk about the physical attacks. So you talk
Speaker 2: about Ashley pulling your hair. A lot of people when
Speaker 2: they watched that episode and you're in your interview chair
Speaker 2: and you have this chunk of hair, a lot of
Speaker 2: people believe, Danielle that you went to party City, bought
Speaker 2: a wig, cut off some hair and have a chuck
Speaker 2: in your interview.
Speaker 3: Yeah, now asked the truth was that your hair.
Speaker 2: That Ashley pulled, that you were holding in your head
Speaker 2: during the interview.
Speaker 1: It was my hair, and it had Leonard, my other
Speaker 1: favorite person in the world, who was the showrunner. Had
Speaker 1: he had admitted that he was at the hospital with me,
Speaker 1: perhaps it would have gone a little differently. So, yes,
Speaker 1: and I did get a concussion, and I was hurt
Speaker 1: being treated like that, first of all by somebody that
Speaker 1: I really cared for and loved and looked at like
Speaker 1: you know, I wanted to mother her at times because
Speaker 1: I knew that's what she needed from me. And then
Speaker 1: to be I don't know she knew. The reasons they
Speaker 1: gave for doing what they did to me wouldn't make
Speaker 1: sense to anybody because the cameras would have let you
Speaker 1: hear me attacking jagulines. So that was just an excuse
Speaker 1: and enough for nothing. When was I ever in the
Speaker 1: lead at any of these fights, I was the one
Speaker 1: trying to walk away. Always, if I had to run
Speaker 1: to get away, I would run. It wasn't because I
Speaker 1: was scared, is because I didn't want to be treated
Speaker 1: like that and have it trigger my PTSD. Didn't want
Speaker 1: to feel like I felt like when I was a child,
Speaker 1: and knowing that they knew all of that made it
Speaker 1: enhance one hundred times more because there was a friendship
Speaker 1: level there where we had trust, where we shared certain
Speaker 1: things that I would have never used against them in
Speaker 1: a time of like that. You just don't do that.
Speaker 1: You don't use it against people anyway. But that's where
Speaker 1: all that came from. It was it was I couldn't
Speaker 1: I couldn't wrap my head around why this was even happening.
Speaker 1: Why why physically people are really coming at me.
Speaker 2: Now, stay tuned for more of my conversation with Danielle.
Speaker 3: Will be right back after this quick break. This is
Speaker 3: Reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.
Speaker 2: Let's get back into my conversation with Danielle. Do you
Speaker 2: feel like you don't get the credit you deserve for
Speaker 2: the success of that franchise?
Speaker 1: Never have until you came out with your list. Never
Speaker 1: my fans have tried, but you know, nobody of recognition
Speaker 1: like you have stepped into the arena and stepped up
Speaker 1: and said, let's give Danielle. I mean, I thank my fans.
Speaker 1: I don't want them to be minimized, you know, having
Speaker 1: somebody and they've been the ones asking, well, somebody, Andy,
Speaker 1: will you say something? Somebody, will you say something? I
Speaker 1: see there because they include me in it. Otherwise I
Speaker 1: wouldn't see it. But when you did this, it was
Speaker 1: life changing. It's career changing for me. I've been sitting
Speaker 1: here wondering what am I going to do with all
Speaker 1: of this. I have this fame and this platform that
Speaker 1: I've been kind of handcuffed away from using because I'm
Speaker 1: set in the stigma, you know, for the masses. But
Speaker 1: you broke broke it. You just broke right through that
Speaker 1: wall and you reached for me.
Speaker 2: You are such an icon, You're such a legend. I
Speaker 2: mean when I say, if it wasn't for you, the
Speaker 2: Real Housewats in New Jersey would not be hit it
Speaker 2: is today. And listen, I love Teresa, and even Teresa
Speaker 2: will admit that that table flip changed her career. That
Speaker 2: table flip would not have happened if it wasn't for you.
Speaker 1: That is her career. That's all she's known for that,
Speaker 1: you know, and dissing Danielle out of a paycheck twice,
Speaker 1: the person that put her on the map.
Speaker 3: So let's talk about that.
Speaker 2: Is do you feel like Teresa is responsible for you
Speaker 2: not being on the Real housewas in New Jersey?
Speaker 1: Teresa's responsible for not allowing what happened to happen to
Speaker 1: me twice because she sat in front of my daughter
Speaker 1: on camera and promised that would never happen again, that
Speaker 1: she would have my back. I had her back until
Speaker 1: I realized she's stomping on me and using me for
Speaker 1: an excuse for that hair pool, which ended our friendship.
Speaker 1: I didn't blame her for it. I took responsibility for
Speaker 1: doing it was my actions. I would have never thought
Speaker 1: of doing that on my own ever. Ever I did it.
Speaker 1: I regret it now. I never said that before. I
Speaker 1: apologize for the actions because I would never be violent
Speaker 1: towards another person. I was abused my whole life. I've
Speaker 1: been abused publicly by people because of my past and
Speaker 1: because of the misunderstanding, and for her being mad at me.
Speaker 1: Keeping her secret seemed a little bit redundant, don't you think,
Speaker 1: and then on top of it, saying, oh, well, they're
Speaker 1: not going to show that. In other words, she thought
Speaker 1: it was all going to be hidden, all gonna be fine,
Speaker 1: Danielle's going to go down again. And then when I
Speaker 1: saw the outfall of that, and I said, Teresa, she
Speaker 1: wouldn't talk to me after that? Well, she literally took
Speaker 1: down every photo of us together and blocked me while
Speaker 1: we were still filming that season because I said, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was her idea. I didn't do that on my own.
Speaker 1: I take response ability for the action of it, but
Speaker 1: nobody seemed really mad at her for even suggesting it.
Speaker 1: Was just like, oh, it's all on Danielle.
Speaker 2: When that hairpull happened. Were you fired from the show?
Speaker 2: Were you asked to leave or did you remove yourself
Speaker 2: from the show.
Speaker 1: No, I've never been fired from the Real Housewives. I'm
Speaker 1: glad you asked that question because so many people are
Speaker 1: getting it wrong. I resigned on watch What Happens Live,
Speaker 1: and I made it a live show January eighth, twenty
Speaker 1: twenty or a twenty twenty one, whatever that was. And
Speaker 1: I didn't tell Andy what I came there to do.
Speaker 1: I just made him promise that it would be live.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't pretape. And so when I came on and
Speaker 1: he said, well, you had something you wanted to say,
Speaker 1: I brought Jillian on. She had a cake. I left
Speaker 1: a cake for everybody, and I said, yeah, actually I
Speaker 1: do something to say. I said, I'm here to let
Speaker 1: you know I will never again film with the Real
Speaker 1: Housewives of New Jersey. I'm done, and he's like, wait
Speaker 1: wait he first started like flipping through his cars. He's like, wait, never, never,
Speaker 1: and he jokes, he goes, how about with other franchises.
Speaker 1: I go, maybe Dallas? Steph Holden was there. I said,
Speaker 1: maybe Atlanta or a Dallas. Sure, but never with the
Speaker 1: Real Housews in New Jersey. Well, film again.
Speaker 2: What is your relationship like now with Melissa Gorga?
Speaker 1: You know, it's so funny. I never really had a
Speaker 1: relationship with her. I tried to when I came back.
Speaker 1: I thought she was cute, and Teresa would be like,
Speaker 1: she's not cute. I guess, I guess she's cute. She'd
Speaker 1: go back and forth with it, and I'm like, I
Speaker 1: don't understand why you guys didn't get along, you know originally,
Speaker 1: and then I'd get the dirt from both ends.
Speaker 4: But to be honest with you, Melissa just glew me up.
Speaker 4: In the first two seasons. Every day of filming she
Speaker 4: wanted me to put around the show. She needed me
Speaker 4: to put around the show. She actually said, why don't
Speaker 4: you bring the crew and the cameras and come to
Speaker 4: our house and Joey and I will film with you,
Speaker 4: and we'll tell everybody about Teresa and Joe. And I'm like,
Speaker 4: uh huh, I don't get involved in family business, and
Speaker 4: I'm not doing that now, but I can tell you now.
Speaker 1: And it was like the second season. I go, I'm
Speaker 1: nearing the end of the season. I'm going to leave.
Speaker 1: And when I leave, I've been giving all of your
Speaker 1: information to production, to Andy Cohen, to the higher ups
Speaker 1: at Bravo and at NBCUNI, and I'm pretty much sure
Speaker 1: that I've gotten you in your chance to be on
Speaker 1: the show. So take your shot now, tell her all
Speaker 1: the things you need to say, but leave me out
Speaker 1: of it. I'm just giving you a chance to be
Speaker 1: on the show that you've been begging me to be on,
Speaker 1: but you wanted me to be the person that was
Speaker 1: put to blame for all of this coming out.
Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you this, because now that it
Speaker 2: has been revealed that Bravo was doing there were a
Speaker 2: Housewives of New York Legacy and they're going they're going
Speaker 2: to do a reboot with the more diverse younger Calf.
Speaker 2: Would you be interested if an offer was on the
Speaker 2: table for the real Housewives on New Jersey Legacy? With
Speaker 2: the ogs you, Teresa, Jacqueline, Dina and Caroline.
Speaker 3: Would you be interested in that?
Speaker 1: I'm not making one more cast member famous again. Margaret
Speaker 1: famous on my heels taking me down after I befriended
Speaker 1: her when no one liked her in her first season. Jennifer,
Speaker 1: same thing. I took her under my wing, hung out
Speaker 1: with her, defended her ran after, helped her when Margaret
Speaker 1: was going after Jackie's the only one I didn't. And
Speaker 1: you know why, I don't really care because she didn't
Speaker 1: know Margaret before the show. And they're pretending to have
Speaker 1: a friendship whatever. Who cares like they're all hanging out
Speaker 1: off camera. No, you're not, You're really not. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't even hang out with them off camera. So
Speaker 1: who's hanging out with you? Newbies? The newbies have got
Speaker 1: to go? Sorry to say the Jersey end.
Speaker 3: You don't like the newbies.
Speaker 1: I think it's all done. And said before when they
Speaker 1: regurgitated my past and what hurt me. They allowed Margaret
Speaker 1: Joseph to do that at one of the reunions and
Speaker 1: call me by a name and say the things that
Speaker 1: she said to me. I said, there will be no
Speaker 1: one else that ever gets famous off of my past again.
Speaker 3: Baby, don't talk. Just love some Danielle. She is so
Speaker 3: funny to me, so real and just so freaking iconic.
Speaker 3: And I'm with Danielle.
Speaker 2: I would love to see a real housewife of New
Speaker 2: Jersey Legacy edition.
Speaker 3: Guys, think about it.
Speaker 2: Teresa, Caroline, Dina, Jacqueline, LaRita and Danielle style.
Speaker 3: Baby, sign me up for that hunt.
Speaker 2: That's popcorn waiting on me as I fed my faith
Speaker 2: and watch that glory. Yes, Danielle, you better produce that
Speaker 2: so look. I love Danielle and I hope you guys
Speaker 2: enjoyed it as much as I did talking to her.
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