1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: We're new to filming. We're just like a couple episodes in. 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: I don't think we'd been filming for even a month 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: at that point, and we weren't getting the scene that 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: you guys wanted. And I understand how this works. I've 5 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: been on camera for many, many years or many times 6 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: prior to that, so I'm like, I'm just gonna give 7 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: you what you want. Tell me what you want me 8 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: to do, and I will do it so I can wrap. 9 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: And you're like, put these on and you handed me 10 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: eight or nine inches to the lettles by Gucci open towel. Beautiful. 11 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: But I also think I said, huh, just promise me 12 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 1: this isn't going to be like the way people think 13 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: of me for all times and like an opening scene. 14 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: And you're like, I can't promise you that, but I'll 15 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: try opening scene me walking to white Pool instill Lettos. 16 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: That is all Carlos, Yes, and I'll be honest with you. 17 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: It did make my legs look super hot. 18 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 2: Stay tuned look into my conversation with Danielle Stouths right 19 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 2: after quick ads. 20 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 3: Welcome to Reality with the King. 21 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 2: It's me Carlos King, the King of Reality TV and 22 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 2: one of the most sought after executive producers in reality television. 23 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 3: With over ten years of production. 24 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 2: Experience, I've executive produced top rated programs such as eight 25 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 2: seasons of the. 26 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 3: Real Housewives of Atlanta. 27 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:40,199 Speaker 2: Additionally, I have created shows such as Netflix Is Styling, 28 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 2: Hollywood Owns, number one rated Love and Marriage Franchise, and 29 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 2: TV one's Hollywood. 30 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 3: Divas, just to name a few. 31 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 2: Twice a week on Reality with the King, we'll sit 32 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 2: down with my friends across the entertainment industry, recap our 33 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 2: favorite reality shows and revisit I forget about moments that 34 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 2: we are still talking and tweeting about. Hey, rain drops. 35 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 2: On today's podcast, Reality with the King, I got someone 36 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 2: that I considered to be one of the greatest housewives 37 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 2: of all time. She was actually number ten on my list. Honey, 38 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 2: that's right. I'm talking about the iconic legend herself, Danielle Style. 39 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 3: Look I love me some Danielle. 40 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 2: As you all know, I produced the first two seasons 41 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,679 Speaker 2: of the Real Housewives of New Jersey, and I was 42 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 2: Danielle's producer season one. 43 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 3: Season two, she told me not to come to our 44 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 3: house child. We talk about that. 45 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 2: We also talk about her experience being on the show 46 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 2: how I feel she doesn't get the credit she deserves 47 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 2: for the success of the Real Housewives of New Jersey. Yes, 48 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 2: Teresa is an icon of the legend and I love 49 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 2: her too. However, I think Danielle needs to get the 50 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 2: same exact credit as Teresa because they both made the 51 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 2: show a hit. And that's coming straight from me. We 52 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 2: also get into her relationship with Melissa Gorga and whether 53 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:20,959 Speaker 2: or not she was fired after pulling Margaret's hair. Yes, honey, 54 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,399 Speaker 2: we talk about it all. So without further ado get 55 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 2: into my conversation. 56 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 3: With my girl, Danielle Stou. 57 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 2: Where were you when you found out that I coined 58 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 2: you as number ten of the greatest housewives of all time? 59 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: Literally sitting about right where I am now, and I'm 60 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: sipping my tea as I am now, and I'm looking 61 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: at my phone. Let's pretend it's here, and I'm like, huh, 62 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: I got an alert Carlos King wait what page six? 63 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: What what's happening? And I'm like, holy shit. Finally he's 64 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: like speaking for me, and I was like, oh my god, 65 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: I'm so honored. I nearly fell off my chair. I 66 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: ran around, like wanting to tell somebody, but when you're alone, 67 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: it's not as like it doesn't have as big of 68 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: a well, but it can today, Like I can tell 69 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: everybody today. I think I reposted it like thirty times. 70 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: I didn't even know what pages I was reposting it from. 71 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: I just ran with it because not for nothing, it's 72 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 1: huge to me. You came into my life at the 73 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: same time our lives collided on the show. Yes, and 74 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: without you, just like you said, there would be no 75 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: season two without me in season one and no table 76 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: Flip and without all that. There would have been none 77 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: of that without you because you were holding my hand, 78 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: guiding me. I mean, we were fourteen eighteen hours a 79 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: day sometimes go into it. 80 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 3: Let me tell y'all. 81 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 2: So I wasn't a social producer. 82 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 3: You guys know the story. 83 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 2: My first reality show was The Real Housewalds at Atlanta 84 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 2: in two thousand and eight, and I did that during 85 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 2: the summer, I was called to do The Real Housewalts 86 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 2: of New Jersey, and you guys know that I was 87 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 2: assigned to Nimi Leagues on Atlanta and on New Jersey. 88 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 2: I was assigned to Danielle Staub, That's right, and. 89 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 3: We instantly fell in love. 90 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 2: And that opening shot of Danielle wearing the heels going 91 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 2: to the pool was my idea. 92 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: It was all your idea. I mean, I have taken 93 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: so many people have said, you know, you could have 94 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: just like Warren flats or flips. That's what people do. 95 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, in my mind, I would say every time 96 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 1: and reply, but never publicly, like bitch, I wore flip flops. 97 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 1: They made me put these on because it was either 98 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: that or we would keep filming until we found something 99 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: that would that wow factor. So here's how it went. 100 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: I was getting my you know, my monthly you know, 101 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: a little visitor, and I was becoming very cranky and angry. 102 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: And we're new to filming. We're just like a couple 103 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: episodes in. I don't think we'd been filming for even 104 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: a month at that point, and we weren't getting the 105 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: scene that you guys wanted. And I understand how this works. 106 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: I've been on camera for many, many years and many 107 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: times prior to that. So I'm like, I'm just gonna 108 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: give you what you want. Tell me what you want 109 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: me to do, and I will do it so I 110 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: can wrap. And you're like, put these on, and you 111 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: handed me eight or nine inch stilettos by Gucci, open 112 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 1: towel beautiful. But I also think I said, huh, just 113 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: promise me, this isn't going to be like the way 114 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: people think of me for all times and like an 115 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: opening scene. And You're like, I can't promise you that, 116 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: but I'll try opening scene me walking to white Pool 117 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: install lettos. That was all Carlos, Yes, and I'll be 118 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: honest with you. It did make my legs look super hot. 119 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 2: Well, Danielle, you're a hot and that was the thing 120 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 2: because Danielle was the devorce say on. 121 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 1: The show Brushley Divorce. It was right on the heels 122 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: of it. 123 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 2: And when Carlos King is assigned to you, we're going 124 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 2: to make iconic moments happen. 125 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 3: And I knew that. 126 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 2: I wanted to make sure that the moment you saw 127 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 2: Danielle Stobb, it had to be memorable. So thank you 128 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 2: for trusting me. You and I were a great team. 129 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: To be honest with you, If they had assigned me 130 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: anybody else, it wouldn't have gone the same way. I 131 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: get where you're coming from when I meet people or 132 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: they meet me at my level, and you met me 133 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: at my level. You knew what I needed to make 134 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: me shine, and I couldn't have felt comfortable doing that 135 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: and owning my own sexuality and sensuality and and my 136 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: you know, my hotness like I was in my forties. 137 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: But I think that, you know, it's just so many 138 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: times that you know, you and crew will get unnoticed 139 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: for the things that they've done. I've always tried to 140 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: acknowledge the fact that, like you guys made me shine, 141 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: were there every day to make me shine. 142 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 2: Talk to me about that first season, because one thing 143 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 2: that I revealed on my podcast is I was the 144 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 2: one who went underneath the table to hand you the 145 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 2: book that took place on the table. 146 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 3: But prior to that, talk to the audience about how. 147 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 2: You even discovered that there were conversations about this book 148 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 2: unbeknownst to you that the other cast members were shooting 149 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 2: scenes about it. 150 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: The discovery of the book came about quite frankly, because 151 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: I was told by Jaccolin, you know, that it was 152 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: circulating and that Dina had been at the helm of that. 153 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: And it didn't matter how it came about. I was 154 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: grateful that I knew about it, because here I am 155 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: living a life different from when I was nineteen and 156 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: twenty years old, and you wouldn't think you'd be judged 157 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: for something you did when you were a kid. You 158 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: think you'd be patted on the back for surviving it, 159 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: or maybe just like curious, how did you get through 160 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: something like that? 161 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 2: And did Jack want to tell you off camera first? Yeah, 162 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 2: you kept out a secret for a long time, Danielle. 163 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: I kept a lot of secrets. I still have a 164 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 1: lot of them vested because I'm just not that person. 165 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: But there's a point in my life that I've gotten 166 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: to now where I realize this is not in any 167 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: way an act of getting back at somebody. It's just 168 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: I'm not going to carry their load anymore. It's a 169 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: lot of it was put on me because I didn't 170 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: speak up. 171 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 2: You found out the other women were talking about the book. 172 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 2: Tell the listeners how once you learn that this book 173 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 2: was a top your conversation. It was your idea to 174 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 2: bring the book to the finale, not the producers. 175 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 3: It was Danielle. 176 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: So I'll never forget you actually trying to talk me 177 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: out of it in a in a way that would 178 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: have benefited protecting me, like do you really want that 179 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: out there kind of way? Because what they're saying ain't nice, 180 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 1: and I'm just trying to let you know. When you 181 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: asked me, so what are we going to do? I said, 182 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: I think I'm going to bring the book and just 183 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 1: find out if anyone would like to ask me questions, 184 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: being as I'm the only other person besides the author 185 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: that would have had that experience, and you have access 186 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: to me, so why not ask me if it's about me? 187 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: I knew it was going to cause what it caused. 188 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: I am smart enough to know that. 189 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 2: And remember how we were like you were like we Carlos, 190 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 2: I can't walk in with the book. And then you 191 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 2: were like, I'm going to have a purse. I said, 192 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 2: you know what, put the book in your purse. When 193 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 2: you come to the restaurant, call me. I'll meet you 194 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 2: outside while they'll mike you up. Hand me your purse 195 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,839 Speaker 2: because you can't walk in with this big ass book. 196 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 2: We were shooting for maybe an hour or two and 197 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 2: you know, nothing was happening, and then we were like, 198 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 2: you know, what is time for the book. So then 199 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 2: I leave video village where all the producers are. 200 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: We went on a little break. We all had to 201 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: tidy up. I knew what was coming and I knew 202 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 1: you were setting the stage for it, and I also 203 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: knew that there were still people that didn't leave the 204 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: dining area and were at the dining table, and it 205 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: was gonna be a little difficult for you to do 206 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 1: it without people still sitting there. So I'm the last 207 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,839 Speaker 1: to enter after the break, and when I sit down, 208 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,439 Speaker 1: you see me reach under the table. Just that same 209 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: motion and film and the timing was just brilliant. All 210 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: of a sudden, all the cameras start realigning, and that's 211 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: when I'm like, Yeah, it's time, just pick up that book. 212 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: A bam, not. 213 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 2: A word said, No, not a word, step for like maybe, 214 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 2: well like an a comfortable thirty minutes. And then finally 215 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 2: the ice was broken and you had a table flip 216 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 2: in your direction. So when Teresa flipped that table, what 217 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 2: were you thinking? Because Dan Yell, what I tell people is, 218 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 2: prior to that, Teresa was sort of like be underdog, 219 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 2: Like no one looked at Teresa as being the fort 220 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 2: is today. So when she flipped it, what were you 221 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 2: literally thinking in that moment? 222 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: Oh, flashes of warnings from a few of the ladies. 223 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: You know, you don't want to piss her off. She'll flip. 224 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 2: Did you think in that moment that this would be 225 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 2: the end of your friendship with Jacqueline? Although she defended 226 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 2: you and had your back, Did you think in that 227 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 2: present moment that this would be the end? Because you 228 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 2: and jackelm were such good friends at that time. 229 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 1: I knew that we were already moving away from that 230 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 1: friendship because I would never see it in the way 231 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 1: of family, and I felt her need to be a 232 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: part of that family so desperately, and who wouldn't. I 233 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: thought that she was and still is, you know, a 234 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: quality human. I don't think she knows very well how 235 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 1: to express yourself sometimes and it's frustrating to her. And 236 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: that's okay, doesn't make her a bad person, just means, 237 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: you know, our journeys and our friendship came to an 238 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 1: impath at the time. 239 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,719 Speaker 3: When was the last time you've seen or spoken to Jacqueline? 240 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: At the reunion season two, when I said goodbye and 241 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: I hugged her, that was it. That was it. We're 242 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 1: talking about somebody that I could leave for the diner 243 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: with my kids and leave her on speakerphone in the 244 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: house and come home and she's still talking like I'm there. 245 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 1: We talked all day, every day, all day, every day. 246 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: There was sometimes I had to like Jacqueline, I'll leave 247 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: you on speaker, but I gotta shoot the scene right now, 248 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: you remember, I literally, true, literally couldn't hang up the phone. No, no, no, 249 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 1: stay on with me. I want to hear. I want 250 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: to hear, and you guys would be like, nah, you 251 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: gotta go. And that's when I knew things were really 252 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: going in a different direction, when we started to have 253 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 1: to be private with each other and I could feel 254 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: she wasn't telling me things that were going on with 255 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: her scenes either anymore. So I just I zipped it. Literally, 256 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: the shift came much with a warning, and so that's 257 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: when I did say goodbye. You know, I meant it. 258 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 1: I just really wanted her to let me go, you know, 259 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: and not not make this energy continue because I didn't 260 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: want that energy between us. It had gotten, you know, 261 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: it had gotten pretty bad and an off camera as well, 262 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: and I didn't want that. I couldn't have known that, 263 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: I mean, letting go is one thing, but not having 264 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: that be reciprocated. I couldn't have known that that would 265 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: still be I'd still be a problem for them. When 266 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: I literally was just I was happy and appreciative that 267 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: we had our time together, and I understood why it 268 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: had to end. I don't understand the you know. 269 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 3: Do you miss her? 270 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: Do I miss her? Here's the thing, I'm okay with 271 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: people not being in my life that have done certain 272 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: things to make me believe that they prefer not being 273 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: in my life. I will never want to be around 274 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: someone that doesn't value me again. I valued myself much 275 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: less then than I do now, and I'm also much 276 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: older now, and I understand that at this point in 277 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: my life there will be no way I would be 278 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: friends with women like that. I wasn't friends with them 279 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: prior to the show. I think that I was an 280 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: easy pond for them for their story that they wanted 281 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: to drive. If I'm being one hundred percent completely honest, 282 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: I was there, Patsy. I was their person to put 283 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: blame on for all the things that they needed to 284 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: hide while I was in sweep under the rug, while 285 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: I was thinking we were creating a friendship. 286 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 2: So you think the other women at the time use 287 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 2: your storyline what you had going on this book to 288 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 2: hide their secrets or things they were going through. 289 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: Otherwise it wouldn't have happened the way it happened when 290 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: I removed myself. It wasn't the next season that they 291 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: all turned on Teresa. And then on my birthday, you know, 292 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: the forty two counts of fraud, she was arrested for 293 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: my phone. I wouldn't have even known about it, but 294 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: press was blowing up my phone. My daughter's answered the phone, 295 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: like for TMZ or somebody, and they're like, this is TMZ. 296 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: We want to know Danielle's take, and the blah blah blah, 297 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: and my daughter's like, this is her birthday and we 298 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: want to wish her a happy birthday. Wouldn't she want 299 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: this news? I said, tell them, no, I'm not that 300 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: Why would that make me happy. I don't take other 301 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: people's problems as a good thing. Yeah. 302 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 2: No. One of the things that is so funny is 303 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 2: so you and I this season went together, and I 304 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 2: was your producer, and then the episode started airing, and 305 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 2: then you who were so mad at me. I was 306 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 2: banned from Danielle's house. I was banned from being Danielle's producer. Yep, 307 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 2: Danielle sit me up text saying you did not protect 308 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 2: me and me and Danielle did not film with each 309 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 2: other for the entirety of season two. 310 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 3: That's right. 311 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: And they asked me to come back and forth with 312 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: you as my producer, and that's why I didn't come back. 313 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 1: One of the reasons I didn't come back. I was 314 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 1: still mad. And then all of a sudden, I realized 315 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 1: it was like an AHA moment after the show started 316 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,199 Speaker 1: filming when I said I wouldn't come back, when they 317 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 1: asked me back and four season four, and I'm like, 318 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: oh my god, Carlos is the reason they all want 319 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: to apologize to me? What the fuck did I just do? 320 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: Because you were I was told by you know, your 321 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 1: higher up, you're superior herself, the owner of production. Yeah, 322 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: they're all like I think they really are sincerely. They've 323 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: been spoken to, and I couldn't figure out. I still 324 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: didn't trust anybody. I was still like, oh my god, 325 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 1: you know I can't trust anyone. You know, everyone's against me. 326 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 1: And I was in that mindset of victim, victim victim, 327 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: and I couldn't see that you were fucking raising me up. 328 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: You were trying to and that was my open door 329 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 1: and I totally missed it because I know it was 330 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 1: you that had spoken to them like, don't you feel 331 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: kind of bad? Even Caroline wanted to say something, and 332 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: whether it was because she was afraid that there wasn't 333 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 1: going to be another season unless I came back or not, 334 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,959 Speaker 1: it didn't matter. Someone had gotten in her ear, and 335 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: I believed that you were one of the people that 336 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:44,479 Speaker 1: was at least one of the people, if not the 337 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: only person that was saying to them, you guys want 338 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: to take another look at what you might have done 339 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 1: differently with Danielle. Something to that. 340 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 2: You and I are friends and listen, that's why on 341 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 2: the bridge, But at that time you felt isolated. 342 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: I thought you were going behind my back and giving 343 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: information that I had. Meanwhile, it was it was them. 344 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: They were looking into me. You had given any of 345 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 1: my secrets away or the things that I had filmed. 346 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: I just had lost so much trust and there were 347 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: rumors going around about everyone, and I didn't know who 348 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 1: to believe. I really felt like there was I was 349 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: alone on the island and I needed to isolate myself 350 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 1: to protect myself. And yeah, I shut you out big time. 351 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 2: I never took it personally because I always said to 352 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 2: the producers, because they said to me, Danielle does not. 353 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 3: Want you around her. You cannot be her producer. 354 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 2: Anymore, Oh my gosh, and you can't go through any 355 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:45,120 Speaker 2: of her scenes. And I remember thinking to myself, I 356 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 2: just want her to know that I understand. 357 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 3: I listen. I don't know what it feels like to 358 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 3: be on. 359 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 2: A show where everybody doesn't like you like that is tough. 360 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: It was really rough. And it wasn't for an episode 361 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 1: or too like everybody gets their episode where everyone's hating 362 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: on him. I had every episode everyone hating on me. 363 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 1: I lost trust for everybody, you know. It was it was. 364 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: It was because of the circumstances and carrying that really 365 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: started to mess with my head. That in the physical 366 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: attacks literally, you know, became a little much. 367 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 2: So let's talk about the physical attacks. So you talk 368 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 2: about Ashley pulling your hair. A lot of people when 369 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 2: they watched that episode and you're in your interview chair 370 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 2: and you have this chunk of hair, a lot of 371 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 2: people believe, Danielle that you went to party City, bought 372 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 2: a wig, cut off some hair and have a chuck 373 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 2: in your interview. 374 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, now asked the truth was that your hair. 375 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 2: That Ashley pulled, that you were holding in your head 376 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 2: during the interview. 377 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 1: It was my hair, and it had Leonard, my other 378 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: favorite person in the world, who was the showrunner. Had 379 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: he had admitted that he was at the hospital with me, 380 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: perhaps it would have gone a little differently. So, yes, 381 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: and I did get a concussion, and I was hurt 382 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 1: being treated like that, first of all by somebody that 383 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,479 Speaker 1: I really cared for and loved and looked at like 384 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: you know, I wanted to mother her at times because 385 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: I knew that's what she needed from me. And then 386 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 1: to be I don't know she knew. The reasons they 387 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: gave for doing what they did to me wouldn't make 388 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: sense to anybody because the cameras would have let you 389 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: hear me attacking jagulines. So that was just an excuse 390 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: and enough for nothing. When was I ever in the 391 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: lead at any of these fights, I was the one 392 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: trying to walk away. Always, if I had to run 393 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,959 Speaker 1: to get away, I would run. It wasn't because I 394 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: was scared, is because I didn't want to be treated 395 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: like that and have it trigger my PTSD. Didn't want 396 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 1: to feel like I felt like when I was a child, 397 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 1: and knowing that they knew all of that made it 398 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: enhance one hundred times more because there was a friendship 399 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: level there where we had trust, where we shared certain 400 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: things that I would have never used against them in 401 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 1: a time of like that. You just don't do that. 402 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: You don't use it against people anyway. But that's where 403 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: all that came from. It was it was I couldn't 404 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: I couldn't wrap my head around why this was even happening. 405 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: Why why physically people are really coming at me. 406 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 2: Now, stay tuned for more of my conversation with Danielle. 407 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 3: Will be right back after this quick break. This is 408 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 3: Reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King. 409 00:22:53,920 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 2: Let's get back into my conversation with Danielle. Do you 410 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,199 Speaker 2: feel like you don't get the credit you deserve for 411 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 2: the success of that franchise? 412 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 1: Never have until you came out with your list. Never 413 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 1: my fans have tried, but you know, nobody of recognition 414 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: like you have stepped into the arena and stepped up 415 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 1: and said, let's give Danielle. I mean, I thank my fans. 416 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: I don't want them to be minimized, you know, having 417 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: somebody and they've been the ones asking, well, somebody, Andy, 418 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: will you say something? Somebody, will you say something? I 419 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: see there because they include me in it. Otherwise I 420 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: wouldn't see it. But when you did this, it was 421 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: life changing. It's career changing for me. I've been sitting 422 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: here wondering what am I going to do with all 423 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 1: of this. I have this fame and this platform that 424 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: I've been kind of handcuffed away from using because I'm 425 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 1: set in the stigma, you know, for the masses. But 426 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,439 Speaker 1: you broke broke it. You just broke right through that 427 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: wall and you reached for me. 428 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 2: You are such an icon, You're such a legend. I 429 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 2: mean when I say, if it wasn't for you, the 430 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 2: Real Housewats in New Jersey would not be hit it 431 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 2: is today. And listen, I love Teresa, and even Teresa 432 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 2: will admit that that table flip changed her career. That 433 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 2: table flip would not have happened if it wasn't for you. 434 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: That is her career. That's all she's known for that, 435 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: you know, and dissing Danielle out of a paycheck twice, 436 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 1: the person that put her on the map. 437 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 3: So let's talk about that. 438 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 2: Is do you feel like Teresa is responsible for you 439 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 2: not being on the Real housewas in New Jersey? 440 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: Teresa's responsible for not allowing what happened to happen to 441 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: me twice because she sat in front of my daughter 442 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: on camera and promised that would never happen again, that 443 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: she would have my back. I had her back until 444 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 1: I realized she's stomping on me and using me for 445 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 1: an excuse for that hair pool, which ended our friendship. 446 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: I didn't blame her for it. I took responsibility for 447 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 1: doing it was my actions. I would have never thought 448 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: of doing that on my own ever. Ever I did it. 449 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 1: I regret it now. I never said that before. I 450 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,199 Speaker 1: apologize for the actions because I would never be violent 451 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: towards another person. I was abused my whole life. I've 452 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:22,199 Speaker 1: been abused publicly by people because of my past and 453 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 1: because of the misunderstanding, and for her being mad at me. 454 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 1: Keeping her secret seemed a little bit redundant, don't you think, 455 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: and then on top of it, saying, oh, well, they're 456 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 1: not going to show that. In other words, she thought 457 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: it was all going to be hidden, all gonna be fine, 458 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: Danielle's going to go down again. And then when I 459 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 1: saw the outfall of that, and I said, Teresa, she 460 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: wouldn't talk to me after that? Well, she literally took 461 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: down every photo of us together and blocked me while 462 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: we were still filming that season because I said, yeah, 463 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: it was her idea. I didn't do that on my own. 464 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 1: I take response ability for the action of it, but 465 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,479 Speaker 1: nobody seemed really mad at her for even suggesting it. 466 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: Was just like, oh, it's all on Danielle. 467 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 2: When that hairpull happened. Were you fired from the show? 468 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 2: Were you asked to leave or did you remove yourself 469 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 2: from the show. 470 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 1: No, I've never been fired from the Real Housewives. I'm 471 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 1: glad you asked that question because so many people are 472 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: getting it wrong. I resigned on watch What Happens Live, 473 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: and I made it a live show January eighth, twenty 474 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 1: twenty or a twenty twenty one, whatever that was. And 475 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: I didn't tell Andy what I came there to do. 476 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,640 Speaker 1: I just made him promise that it would be live. 477 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: I wouldn't pretape. And so when I came on and 478 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: he said, well, you had something you wanted to say, 479 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 1: I brought Jillian on. She had a cake. I left 480 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 1: a cake for everybody, and I said, yeah, actually I 481 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: do something to say. I said, I'm here to let 482 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: you know I will never again film with the Real 483 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 1: Housewives of New Jersey. I'm done, and he's like, wait 484 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: wait he first started like flipping through his cars. He's like, wait, never, never, 485 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: and he jokes, he goes, how about with other franchises. 486 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: I go, maybe Dallas? Steph Holden was there. I said, 487 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: maybe Atlanta or a Dallas. Sure, but never with the 488 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: Real Housews in New Jersey. Well, film again. 489 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 2: What is your relationship like now with Melissa Gorga? 490 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: You know, it's so funny. I never really had a 491 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: relationship with her. I tried to when I came back. 492 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: I thought she was cute, and Teresa would be like, 493 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: she's not cute. I guess, I guess she's cute. She'd 494 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: go back and forth with it, and I'm like, I 495 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: don't understand why you guys didn't get along, you know originally, 496 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: and then I'd get the dirt from both ends. 497 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 4: But to be honest with you, Melissa just glew me up. 498 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,679 Speaker 4: In the first two seasons. Every day of filming she 499 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 4: wanted me to put around the show. She needed me 500 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 4: to put around the show. She actually said, why don't 501 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 4: you bring the crew and the cameras and come to 502 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 4: our house and Joey and I will film with you, 503 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 4: and we'll tell everybody about Teresa and Joe. And I'm like, 504 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 4: uh huh, I don't get involved in family business, and 505 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 4: I'm not doing that now, but I can tell you now. 506 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 1: And it was like the second season. I go, I'm 507 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 1: nearing the end of the season. I'm going to leave. 508 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: And when I leave, I've been giving all of your 509 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: information to production, to Andy Cohen, to the higher ups 510 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: at Bravo and at NBCUNI, and I'm pretty much sure 511 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: that I've gotten you in your chance to be on 512 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: the show. So take your shot now, tell her all 513 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: the things you need to say, but leave me out 514 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: of it. I'm just giving you a chance to be 515 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: on the show that you've been begging me to be on, 516 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: but you wanted me to be the person that was 517 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: put to blame for all of this coming out. 518 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you this, because now that it 519 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 2: has been revealed that Bravo was doing there were a 520 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 2: Housewives of New York Legacy and they're going they're going 521 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 2: to do a reboot with the more diverse younger Calf. 522 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 2: Would you be interested if an offer was on the 523 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 2: table for the real Housewives on New Jersey Legacy? With 524 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 2: the ogs you, Teresa, Jacqueline, Dina and Caroline. 525 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 3: Would you be interested in that? 526 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: I'm not making one more cast member famous again. Margaret 527 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: famous on my heels taking me down after I befriended 528 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: her when no one liked her in her first season. Jennifer, 529 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: same thing. I took her under my wing, hung out 530 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: with her, defended her ran after, helped her when Margaret 531 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,719 Speaker 1: was going after Jackie's the only one I didn't. And 532 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: you know why, I don't really care because she didn't 533 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: know Margaret before the show. And they're pretending to have 534 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: a friendship whatever. Who cares like they're all hanging out 535 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: off camera. No, you're not, You're really not. You know, 536 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: I don't even hang out with them off camera. So 537 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 1: who's hanging out with you? Newbies? The newbies have got 538 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,479 Speaker 1: to go? Sorry to say the Jersey end. 539 00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 3: You don't like the newbies. 540 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: I think it's all done. And said before when they 541 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 1: regurgitated my past and what hurt me. They allowed Margaret 542 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 1: Joseph to do that at one of the reunions and 543 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: call me by a name and say the things that 544 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: she said to me. I said, there will be no 545 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: one else that ever gets famous off of my past again. 546 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 3: Baby, don't talk. Just love some Danielle. She is so 547 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,959 Speaker 3: funny to me, so real and just so freaking iconic. 548 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 3: And I'm with Danielle. 549 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 2: I would love to see a real housewife of New 550 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 2: Jersey Legacy edition. 551 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 3: Guys, think about it. 552 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 2: Teresa, Caroline, Dina, Jacqueline, LaRita and Danielle style. 553 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 3: Baby, sign me up for that hunt. 554 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 2: That's popcorn waiting on me as I fed my faith 555 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 2: and watch that glory. Yes, Danielle, you better produce that 556 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 2: so look. 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