WEBVTT - SYSK’s Fall True Crime Playlist: SYSK Live: The DB Cooper Heist 0:00:01.280 --> 0:00:04.640 Welcome back, everybody. We're moving along on our true crime 0:00:04.680 --> 0:00:08.680 playlist with an episode we recorded live in Seattle in 0:00:08.680 --> 0:00:13.040 twenty seventeen, on the unsolved mystery of dB Cooper. Someone 0:00:13.119 --> 0:00:16.200 using that alias hijacked a plane flying from Portland to 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:19.560 Seattle in nineteen seventy one and jumped out mid air, 0:00:19.960 --> 0:00:23.720 making off with two hundred thousand dollars. People still float 0:00:23.720 --> 0:00:26.840 suspects today, and they usually say the case is solved, 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:30.920 but the FBI stopped investigating back in twenty sixteen and 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:33.920 they consider it unsolved. This one is pretty fun, so 0:00:33.960 --> 0:00:35.920 I hope you enjoy it, and if you like this 0:00:36.000 --> 0:00:37.919 live show, come see us when we hit the road 0:00:37.960 --> 0:00:43.840 again in twenty twenty six Welcome to Stuff you should 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:53.800 know from HowStuffWorks dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:57.120 I'm Josh Clark, There's Charles W. Chuck Bryant, and we 0:00:57.160 --> 0:01:00.959 are here live at the beautiful Neptune Thiet and beautiful 0:01:00.960 --> 0:01:31.280 Seattle and beautiful Washington. Thank you, guys, phenomenal. 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:35.119 I'm already a sweaty mess, so that must mean we're 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:35.640 on stage. 0:01:35.720 --> 0:01:37.119 We are off to a great start. 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:38.520 That must mean I'm awake. 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:40.360 Or sleeping. 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:44.240 Yeah, I sweat my sleep too big time. It's gross. 0:01:44.680 --> 0:01:46.039 I'm always wiping his brow. 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:50.320 What movie we're going to watch tonight in the hotel? 0:01:52.800 --> 0:01:54.440 Is a spy out yet on? 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:57.040 And we can leave the seat up on the toilet? 0:01:57.680 --> 0:01:58.000 I don't. 0:01:58.040 --> 0:01:58.680 I don't do that. 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:02.480 I don't either because I pee sitting down because I'm 0:02:02.520 --> 0:02:08.040 forty five years old. Do you really well, yeah, I 0:02:08.160 --> 0:02:09.840 might as well get into it. 0:02:11.880 --> 0:02:14.040 What you do too? 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:20.720 Why we never talked about this. I started being sitting 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:23.359 down during the middle of the night, Get up because 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:26.400 if it just makes sense, because you don't want to 0:02:26.400 --> 0:02:27.880 wake up too much and you don't want to like 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:32.000 make a mess. And then I think I just hit 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:35.160 a certain age where I was like, it's just nicer 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:39.600 to sit down. I don't need to prove anything to anyone. 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:44.040 Huh, you landed your lady, You're all set. 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:46.839 Yeah, I stand when I pee off my deck at night, 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:49.800 I don't do that. 0:02:49.919 --> 0:02:51.240 I live in a condo complex. 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:55.079 They would if I would be it's not good, man. 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:57.840 I feel like an enormous weight's just been lifted off of. 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:00.560 I can't believe that you're not even forty years old 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:01.800 yet and you pee sitting down. 0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:04.800 Yeah, let's start the podcast. 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:13.359 Are there other guys out there that pee sitting down? 0:03:14.440 --> 0:03:14.960 All right? 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:17.919 We're starting a movement, baby, that's right. 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:24.600 Your ladies will appreciate it. Oddly, I pooped standing up. 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:33.200 This is so off the rails already. 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:36.600 Like in conversation. Let's be sitting there talking to me. 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:39.200 You're like you're pooping right now, aren't you. Yeah, it's 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:41.400 like it's more efficient this way, I get more done. 0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:43.200 We should probably start over. 0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:44.000 We should. 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:47.880 We're gonna get off stage and come back out. I 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:53.880 can't believe what we've been talking about here this evening already. Okay, 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:56.120 let's all just take it down a notch. All right, 0:03:59.040 --> 0:04:02.520 So we're poking casting. We're about to start podcasting. I 0:04:02.520 --> 0:04:04.920 think I already started the podcast, oh god, which means 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:06.720 that's gonna be on like the thing. 0:04:06.560 --> 0:04:08.520 We That's why I said we should start over. 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:12.200 Okay, it stays here everybody. 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:16.520 Yeah, it's all our secret. I think five hundred people. 0:04:19.600 --> 0:04:23.840 Okay, hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:27.400 There's Charles W. Chuck Bryant. We are live here at 0:04:27.400 --> 0:04:30.520 the Beautiful Neptune Theater in Seattle, Washington. 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:53.000 Man Times two that's an in joke. People will be 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:54.000 like even better than what. 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:04.960 There's a lot of there's more crossover between our fans 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:07.360 and Howard Stern than our fans and Mariners fans. 0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:11.280 I think, boy, there's a Venn diagram out there that's 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:13.599 confusing me already. 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:17.960 Okay, so Chuck, yes, this is a little bit of history. Yeah, 0:05:18.080 --> 0:05:20.160 so we're going to go back in the way back machine. 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:30.200 That's right, Dud's If you listen to the PR Live podcast, 0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:32.719 you know that, like the wayback machine is imaginary. So 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:33.400 settled down. 0:05:35.279 --> 0:05:36.160 They heard that live. 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:39.000 Yeah that was a good one too. 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:41.920 There are PR professionals here because they emailed me today. 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:47.640 Oh really, yeah, I can tell that's the call of 0:05:47.680 --> 0:05:57.400 the PR professional call. So we're going back to a cold, stormy, rainy, 0:05:57.880 --> 0:06:03.600 pretty nasty Thanksgiving in nineteen seventy one, and the story 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:09.560 begins at PDX Portland Airport and a man walked into PDX, 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:13.279 took a picture of his shoe on the carpet, and 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:17.960 then walked along to the Northwest Orient Airlines ticket desk. 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:20.640 That's right, And he walked up and he said, Hi, 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:25.039 I am really interested in finding more about flight three 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:30.200 oh five, the flight to Seattle. Would that happen to 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:32.960 be a Boeing seven to twenty seven Dash one hundred 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:35.520 airplane that you guys are going to fly on that route? 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:40.479 And the ticket agentment yes, as a matter of fact, 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:43.040 it is, and the man said that it's fantastic. 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:44.719 Here's my twenty dollars. 0:06:44.960 --> 0:06:49.200 Yeah, one ticket please, for a one way ticket between 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:53.120 Portland and Seattle, a board flight three oh five. Yeah. 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:55.279 And she was like, that's a weird question, but I 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:58.039 guess he's very specific about what kind of plane he 0:06:58.080 --> 0:06:58.720 likes to fly on. 0:06:58.800 --> 0:07:01.560 Plus, it's nineteen seventy and I'm in no position to 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:04.920 publicly question a man, so I'll just go along with this. 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:07.480 It's very true. 0:07:09.680 --> 0:07:11.800 And it was twenty dollars for that flight. This is 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:16.400 a very seventies podcast. So they handed him as a 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:19.080 little ticket voucher and said just filled this out, sir, uh, 0:07:19.800 --> 0:07:22.000 don't need to see ID because it's nineteen seventy one. 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:24.880 Just tell us who you are or whoever you want 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:26.920 us to think you are. And he wrote down in 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:30.000 big block letters in a red ink pin, Dan Cooper. 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:34.720 You know where we're going with this, son. 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:39.000 So the Boeing seven twenty seven Dash one hundred is 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:42.200 every single person in this room knows is a smallish plane. 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:45.520 It's not the biggest plane in the Boeing fleet. It's 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:47.480 not the smallest either, but it's the only one that 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:52.200 had an af staircase. Right, And this particular flight flying 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:54.880 aboard this Boeing seven twenty seven DASH one hundred flight 0:07:54.920 --> 0:07:58.400 three zero five had a crew of five aboard. There 0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:02.520 was Captain William Scott, not Sean William Scott, we figured 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:05.320 out later on, not Stiffler. 0:08:05.520 --> 0:08:06.960 That would have made zero sense. 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:09.880 Yeah, Hetty had a former life in the seventies as 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:14.200 an airline pilot co pilot Robert Radazak. There's a ce 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:16.480 in there for those of you who like that kind 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:20.600 of thing. And there were three flight attendants. There's a 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:24.440 head flight attendant who was named Alice Hancock, right, yes, 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:28.400 and then two I guess regular flight attendants, Tina mucclough, 0:08:29.000 --> 0:08:31.840 who's a hero of ours, and Florence Schaffner. 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:35.400 I think they called him stewardess's back then to be fair, right, 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:37.599 But we're forward thinking guys, so we're we're gonna go 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:38.720 ahead and say flight attendant. 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:40.120 We don't use the S word. 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:43.920 You just make well, never mind. 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:48.800 Never mind, We've done quite enough extraneous stuff for her, 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:49.320 I know. 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:52.440 So Dan Cooper gets on the plane. There's thirty seven 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:55.200 other passengers because again it was a seventies they didn't 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:58.000 overbook flights back then, and say I'm sorry you bought 0:08:58.000 --> 0:08:59.720 a ticket, but you really can't fly on this flight. 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:03.959 Thirty seven passengers, pretty empty, and Dan Cooper seat sits 0:09:03.960 --> 0:09:08.320 in seat eighteen C. They pour him up a bourbon 0:09:08.400 --> 0:09:10.880 in seven up and he lights up a cigarette. 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:11.680 A Raley brand cigarette. 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:14.600 Because it's nineteen seventy one, you got smoke on planes. Yeah, 0:09:15.160 --> 0:09:17.880 And he looked to be about in his mid forties. 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:19.679 He was, you know, kind of looked like the men 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:22.840 of the time, which is to say you either looked 0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:24.920 by nineteen seventy one. He either looked a little more 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:27.720 like Don Draper, kind of holding on to that fifties look, 0:09:28.000 --> 0:09:29.240 or you look like Charles Manson. 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:33.200 He looked a little more like Don Draper. Yeah. Had 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:34.920 the suit had the skinny tie. 0:09:35.280 --> 0:09:37.440 And we should talk a little bit about the suit. 0:09:37.480 --> 0:09:40.760 The suit was a russet colored suit, which was like 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:45.000 that weird burgundy brown color. It's potato colored it right, 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:47.599 and it just so happened that he was wearing the 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:50.440 suit during the one six month period in history where 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:53.400 you could wear that color suit out in public. So 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:57.280 he was okay. And then his skinny tie was a 0:09:57.280 --> 0:09:59.280 clip on from J. C. Penny. That's right. 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:04.240 He had a imitation Mother of Pearl type in. He 0:10:04.360 --> 0:10:08.280 had an overcoat, he had a hat, he had a 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:11.880 bag kind of like a briefcase, and he had these 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:16.920 black corn rim sunglasses, dark kind of olive skin. 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:17.560 Would you say? 0:10:18.120 --> 0:10:21.240 They call him swarthy, which I think is like stewardess 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:22.880 that's been phased out, you know what I mean. 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:26.920 I thought swarthy. I thought that was like a sea captain. 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:32.040 I'm sure there were swarthy sea captains. 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:34.240 Because, yeah, because they're out in the sun, so they 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:35.520 ended up getting olive skinned. 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:41.080 That's rugged. Okay, you're thinking of the Gordon's fishermen. 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:43.319 Oh right, Oh he was swarthy. 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:48.040 Sure, he's swarthy as h So he had he had 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:51.719 this kind of dark wavy hair, and other than that, 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:53.920 he was just sort of an unremarkable dude. 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:55.920 He wanted to blend in right. 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:59.240 Well, yeah, okay, so this guy's sitting in eighteen c 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:03.520 unremarkable aside from wearing the sunglasses, he's smoking with his 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:05.840 left hand, says, nothing to do with anything, but we 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:07.800 just kind of wanted to show off how much research 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:12.960 we've done on this. And when Florence Schaffner, the flight 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:16.839 attendant working his area, comes over and gives him his 0:11:16.960 --> 0:11:20.679 bourbon and I think seven up right, yeah, he hands 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:24.200 her a note. And to Florence Shaffner, she was twenty three, 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:27.320 she was very pretty. She was at the time a stewardess, 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:31.760 and this happened to her all the time, like businessmen 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:34.959 drinking sevens and sevens like past her notes and hit 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:38.080 on her all the time. So when this guy in 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:40.960 eighteen C Dan Cooper handed her a note, she took 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:43.800 the note and just put it in her flight apron 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:47.240 without looking at it, and turned and walked away with 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:50.600 all the other notes right over right. 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:52.800 Yeah, from all the men who wanted to rescue her 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:53.840 from her life. 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:59.560 Come away with me, it sworethy. And so Dan Cooper 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:03.319 sees this and he goes, miss, you may want to 0:12:03.360 --> 0:12:04.360 have a look at that note. 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:05.280 I have a bomb. 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:09.200 I think you know where we're going with this, dB Cooper. 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:14.560 You know, when we were coming here today, we were like, oh, 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:18.480 we're really rolling the dice. It's entirely possible that everyone 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:21.600 here had the dB Cooper case drilled into them from 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:22.600 like third grade on. 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:25.760 That's not the case, is no, you didn't study it 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:26.200 in class. 0:12:26.240 --> 0:12:27.520 It's just a high relief. 0:12:28.520 --> 0:12:30.200 I told that to you, MEI, and Yumy was like, 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:33.480 that's so dumb. She's like, do you know everything about 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:36.680 the burning of Atlanta? And I said no, and she's like, no, no, 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:39.880 you don't, And they don't know everything about dB Cooper 0:12:40.640 --> 0:12:41.720 and I went back to sleep. 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:49.600 So this was not the first commercial airplane hijacking. It 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:52.040 actually the first one was in nineteen forty eight, and 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:58.040 remarkably between nineteen sixty eight, just three years earlier, in 0:12:58.120 --> 0:13:01.400 the time dB Cooper hijacked this plane, there were one 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:04.920 hundred commercial hijackings in three years. 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:06.320 Yeah, so this is not new. 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:09.040 It was not new, but I remember, like if anyone 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:11.400 here grew up in like the seventies and stuff, it 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:14.080 was a thing like planes got hijacked all the time 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:17.400 because you could bring guns and bombs on planes and 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:18.040 you didn't need. 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:20.920 ID and no one cared, right, and they were like, hmm, 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:21.800 this is weird. 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:24.880 Yeah, that's pretty much where the FBI was at the time, 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:27.320 and by nineteen seventy one, they were just starting to 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:31.040 like get hip to the idea of hijackings being a problem, 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:33.640 and so their first idea was, well, we'll put an 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:36.240 air marshal on every flight. And then they looked at 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:38.640 the schedule of flights in the United States and they 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:41.200 were like, oh, this may have been a bad idea, but. 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:42.240 They tried a good idea. 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:46.600 It was a fine idea if everyone, if like a 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:49.760 third of the population of the United States were air marshals, 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:51.040 and yeah, it was a good idea. 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:52.760 It's a good idea if you want one of every 0:13:52.800 --> 0:13:55.600 like three hundred flights with an air markets right. 0:13:55.480 --> 0:13:58.760 Right, and the other two hundred ninety nine open for hijacking. Right. 0:13:59.280 --> 0:14:02.360 So this was they figured out after a few years, 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:04.960 like why the logistics of American air tragicy. 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:07.320 Edgar Hoover's idea, by the way, right, he was still 0:14:07.360 --> 0:14:09.400 in charge of the FBI in nineteen seventy one. 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:12.760 Yeah, so he'd been there for about fifty years, right, Yeah, 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:16.360 So his idea was air marshalls didn't work, but they 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:18.600 were still trying it. There was no air marshal on 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:21.400 flight three zero five, the dB Cooper hijacking flight. 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:24.040 Yeah, they're like Portland to Seattle. Maybe we should put 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:25.520 like three air marshals on that one. 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:29.320 I tried to light and I mean it made sense 0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:31.200 that there would not be an air marshal on that 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:35.560 flight because most hijackings were crazed loan gunmen with a 0:14:35.600 --> 0:14:40.320 handgun who wanted to be taken to Cuba for political reasons. Basically, 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:43.520 no one flying from PDX to c Tech wanted to 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:45.880 be taken to Cuba, so there was no reason for 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:47.720 an air marshal to beyond the flight. It was a 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:50.880 pretty good bet to not have an air marshal on. 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:54.160 They just didn't expect TB. Cooper because he was a 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:58.320 pretty novel person. The idea of a single guy taking 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:01.880 control of a flight for money with a bomb that 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:05.000 was new and like our whole conception of mad bomber 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:08.960 hijacking a flight comes from dB Cooper and Sonny Bono's 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:10.120 character an Airplane two. 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:14.840 This is actually I did a little more research between 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:17.840 nineteen sixty eight and seventy nine. It's literally referred to 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:22.560 as the Golden Age of skyjacking. I was talking to 0:15:22.640 --> 0:15:24.280 Josh's like I didn't know that you could have. I 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:27.240 thought a golden age was about something good. I didn't 0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:29.680 know you could have the golden age of dysentery, right, 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:31.600 the good old days. 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:34.000 It was good for the hijackers because they could get 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:35.120 away with it no problem. 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:39.000 Maybe that's who wrote that, the Golden age of skyjacking man. 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:43.200 All right, So Floren Schaeffner, I'm sorry. Shaffer reads the 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:47.800 note and she says, you know what, give me our 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:49.760 Cooper says, you know what, give me that note back, 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:52.000 which is a very key thing because that means they 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:54.480 won't have a sample of his handwriting. So he asked 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:56.840 for the note back, and from that point on he 0:15:57.520 --> 0:15:59.200 did not converse. 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:00.520 Like everything else. 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:02.680 He had them right down to take to the captain 0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:04.960 so they would have no more like physical evidence of 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:05.440 his handwriting. 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:07.720 Yeah. The only handwriting sample he had was that ticket 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:13.320 duplicate and it was in block letters, which yeah, Cooper. 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:17.000 So she sits down and she says, uh, you know, 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:17.760 I want to know. 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:19.440 That this is legit, this is for real? 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:21.840 Can I can I like get a look at that 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:23.320 bomb that you're talking about? 0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:26.640 Makes sense? And he shows her right, Yeah, he gives 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:27.440 her a little peak. 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:29.720 He opened her his bag just enough and she went 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:31.640 to put her fingers in and he snapped the hut. 0:16:34.000 --> 0:16:38.760 Just like pretty woman. Yeah, yeah, and uh, but she 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:42.240 sees what you know. She sees red sticks of dynamite 0:16:42.280 --> 0:16:45.440 and a battery and and I guess presumably like an 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:47.920 alarm clock with two bells on it. 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:50.760 Right, it's got like a skull and crossbones. It's like 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:52.400 he says, you die or something. 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:55.040 Electrical tape is all around it because he watched a 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:56.840 lot of cartoons and he knows how to make a bomb. 0:16:56.880 --> 0:17:00.280 Well she I mean she bought it. Clearly, she saw 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:04.320 the bomb and she took down a note. He said, 0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:07.400 take this down. I have a ransom demand. He said, 0:17:07.440 --> 0:17:10.840 I want two hundred thousand dollars by five pm in cash. 0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:14.600 Put it in a knapsack. I want two back parachutes 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:17.679 and two front parachutes when we land. I want a 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:21.520 fuel truck ready to refuel. No funny stuff or all 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:24.760 do the job, which is h That was tough talking 0:17:24.840 --> 0:17:26.240 nineteen seventy one. 0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:29.760 Again, he wants a lot of cartoons. And that's what 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:32.919 you say when you mean business. That roughly is about 0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:35.159 one point two million dollars today. 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:37.359 Yeah, I think it's a little low. 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:39.879 If you're gonna go through a skyjacking. 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:41.320 It's a lot of work for a million dollars. 0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:43.080 Yeah, I would have said, like, if you're gonna ask 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:45.640 for two hundred grand, ask for three hundred or four hundred, 0:17:46.080 --> 0:17:50.879 that's just me sure, I'm no skyjacker. So this is 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:53.439 turns out to be the only threat that Dan Cooper 0:17:53.480 --> 0:17:55.280 makes during the entire ordeal. 0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:58.320 He he is this very first note that he gave up. 0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:02.080 So from that point, like I said, he dictated everything else, 0:18:02.359 --> 0:18:05.439 so they could just pass notes back and forth. And 0:18:05.480 --> 0:18:09.359 aside from a couple of conversations with the pilots on 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:11.639 the cockpit phone from the rear of the plane to 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:15.840 the cockpit, they didn't have any interaction the pilots whatsoever 0:18:15.880 --> 0:18:16.359 with Danku. 0:18:16.480 --> 0:18:19.360 Right, So they were like almost no help whatsoever during 0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:22.359 the investigation. Right. And then the fact that he asked 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:25.960 for two parachutes was a stroke of brilliant because it 0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:28.480 did show his hand to the FBI that he was 0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:31.080 going to jump out of the plane with the ransom money. 0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:35.120 But it also said FBI, I'm probably going to make 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:37.760 a hostage jump with me, so don't tamper with any 0:18:37.800 --> 0:18:41.159 of these parachutes, which if the FBI had would have 0:18:41.160 --> 0:18:45.640 been murder. But we're talking about Jaegar Hoover's FBI, so 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:49.080 they may have tried just that. So it's pretty smart 0:18:49.080 --> 0:18:51.240 that he asked for two pairs because they didn't know 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:52.200 what he was going to do. 0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:52.840 That's right. 0:18:52.880 --> 0:18:56.720 So Schaffner takes that ransom note, gives it to Alice Cancock. 0:18:56.800 --> 0:18:59.960 She takes it over to the pilot and the co pilot, 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:03.960 and well what did they do? Josh, you do a 0:19:03.960 --> 0:19:07.160 great pilot. They called Seatech Airport instead. 0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:12.520 Uh, seatach We just want to advise you on a 0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:14.840 bit of a fiddlestick. So we got going on here 0:19:16.720 --> 0:19:19.919 son and Bono was taking control of the plane. He 0:19:20.000 --> 0:19:25.879 wants two hundred thousand dollars in negotiable American currency by 0:19:25.880 --> 0:19:26.439 five pm. 0:19:26.640 --> 0:19:29.800 Negotiable American currency. Yeah, it's a very weird thing to 0:19:29.840 --> 0:19:30.600 ask for it. 0:19:30.440 --> 0:19:33.480 It was, And so sea Tech was like, we should 0:19:33.520 --> 0:19:36.080 probably call the cops, and the cops said we should 0:19:36.080 --> 0:19:37.080 probably call the FBI. 0:19:37.280 --> 0:19:40.119 Well, yeah, this was the Seattle Police Department in nineteen 0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:43.960 seventy one. They're like, no, no, no, no, no, we we don't 0:19:43.960 --> 0:19:44.840 deal with things like this. 0:19:44.960 --> 0:19:46.960 They're like, wait, wait, this guy doesn't want to go 0:19:47.000 --> 0:19:48.760 to Cuba. We don't understand it. 0:19:48.840 --> 0:19:51.560 Like we're literally waiting for John Rambo to wander through town, 0:19:51.920 --> 0:19:53.280 right so we can harass. 0:19:53.080 --> 0:19:54.879 Him just ten more years. 0:19:55.320 --> 0:19:56.760 Wait, that was Oregon, though, wasn't it? 0:19:57.640 --> 0:20:02.320 Okay? Pretty close? That joke will kill night tomorrow night? 0:20:02.400 --> 0:20:06.840 Yeah, man, Rambo joke, yeah. 0:20:06.960 --> 0:20:11.520 Remember it. So all of a sudden, like there's all 0:20:11.560 --> 0:20:14.880 this crazy energy going on down on the ground, right, 0:20:14.960 --> 0:20:19.280 So the FBI comes in and they're they're trying to 0:20:19.280 --> 0:20:23.200 get the money together. They're like, you, we have an hour. 0:20:23.359 --> 0:20:24.879 You got to give us more time. It's like, no, 0:20:25.000 --> 0:20:27.359 you can't have more time. They're like, okay, that's fine, 0:20:27.520 --> 0:20:29.520 we'll get all this stuff together. You guys are gonna 0:20:29.520 --> 0:20:32.760 have to stay up there until we get everything ready 0:20:32.800 --> 0:20:36.320 for you. So the plane is circling SeaTac and they 0:20:36.359 --> 0:20:41.440 told the passengers that the plane was experiencing mechanical problems, 0:20:42.640 --> 0:20:44.720 which I would have had a problem hearing, you know, 0:20:45.280 --> 0:20:47.520 it wouldn't have like I think they could have thought 0:20:47.560 --> 0:20:48.680 that through a little more. 0:20:49.000 --> 0:20:52.400 Yeah, it's experiencing mechanical problems. So we're just gonna keep flying. 0:20:52.200 --> 0:20:57.600 We're gonna stay aloft, see what happens. Captain Scott is 0:20:57.640 --> 0:20:58.520 a gambling man. 0:21:00.160 --> 0:21:03.439 So everyone was drinking and smoking cigarettes, so they didn't care. 0:21:03.520 --> 0:21:05.320 They were hooking up in the bathroom. 0:21:05.400 --> 0:21:06.560 This is ninety seventy one. 0:21:07.440 --> 0:21:08.280 It could have been Chuck. 0:21:08.280 --> 0:21:10.000 You would have been like I told you, we should 0:21:10.000 --> 0:21:10.480 have driven. 0:21:11.040 --> 0:21:11.679 It's nothing. 0:21:12.480 --> 0:21:13.520 Could have been to Portland. 0:21:15.440 --> 0:21:17.879 So they had to circle for an hour, and they 0:21:17.960 --> 0:21:20.000 ended up telling the passengers, oh, we just need to 0:21:20.000 --> 0:21:22.320 burn off some gas and everything will be fine, right, 0:21:22.760 --> 0:21:26.760 And the passengers apparently were totally unaware that they've been hijacked. 0:21:26.960 --> 0:21:31.040 That's how cool Cooper was, right, But one passenger later said, 0:21:31.760 --> 0:21:35.080