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Speaker 1: The One Bill's Live presented by Calida Health.

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Speaker 2: Welcome into One Bill's Live, the final really the final

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Speaker 2: full week before game week of the regular season. I'm

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Speaker 2: Steve Tasker filling in for Brownie. He's out for a day,

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Speaker 2: and in for Brownie is our good friend friend of

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Speaker 2: the show, Chris Trapasso. Chris, thanks for making some time.

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Speaker 2: The off season is officially over. The next time the

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Speaker 2: show comes on or the next Monday. The next week,

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Speaker 2: it's game week, and you know we're less than a

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Speaker 2: week away from the opening night game Baltimore in Kansas City.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm always so grateful to come on this show

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Speaker 3: and being a draft guy in May and June kind

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Speaker 3: of rehash everything that went down during the draft. That's

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Speaker 3: all fun. But when we actually get to real football,

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Speaker 3: where we know the Bills roster, we know their opponent's

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Speaker 3: fifty three man roster, we even know the practice squads

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Speaker 3: at this point, it's definitely a very exciting time heading

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Speaker 3: into Labor Day weekend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we get we get this going, It's it's

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Speaker 2: going to be a blast. It's a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: The these are the you know, the days you kind

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Speaker 3: So especially a home game week one where the weather's

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Speaker 3: going to be great, You're going to see people in

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Speaker 3: tank tops and shorts instead of coats and winter hats.

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Speaker 3: Hasn't It's been a couple of years since the Bills

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Speaker 3: I think Bill's Mafia is going to be as rowdy

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, absolutely, absolutely, not too much going on with

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Speaker 2: us the roster. The Bills signed wide receiver Jalen Virgil

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Speaker 2: of their practice squad. They released kaylin Or Kane, and

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Speaker 2: so that's going to continue to go. I don't know

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Speaker 2: got to know about it. Now, it kind of changes

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Speaker 2: and that's what takes present. So we'll probably stop talking

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Speaker 2: been for the last three months. Now we're gonna have

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Speaker 2: to start talking about game plans and guys who are

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Speaker 2: should have run it on that third and short instead

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Speaker 2: of throw at all that kind of stuff. It'll be fun.

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Speaker 2: The uh, lots of stuff going on around the league

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Speaker 2: this is kind of the season for Chris. Teams are

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Speaker 3: Bills have done it in the past, Dean Dawkins, Matt Milano,

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Speaker 3: Tredevious White, big one yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, around the NFL. Let's go around the NFL

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Speaker 2: and talk about that. Around the NFL presented by Coalida Health,

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Speaker 2: the official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills. Started with

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Speaker 2: the Miami Dolphins. They extended the contract of their head coach,

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Speaker 2: Mike McDaniel. He signed a four year deal in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty two. That's the one they're extending. Now he's going

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Speaker 2: to be under contract. It sounds like until he signed

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Speaker 2: details is to the numbers. But he took over a

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Speaker 3: So he.

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Speaker 2: I gotta say it, even as a Bills fan, I do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he's one of those guys. And I'll say

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's a really progressive opinion, especially being

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that wasn't it didn't seem crazy. That was

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Speaker 3: He really cut his teeth learning the intricacies of the

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Speaker 3: this is not someone that this is not a nepotism higher,

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Speaker 2: He played, he was alongside Kyle Shanahan for eleven years

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Speaker 3: We all understand or view that Tua Tongue of Iloa

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Speaker 2: Absolutely so congratulations to Mike McDaniel. He is he got

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Speaker 3: It helps reinvigorate the Bills Dolphins rivalry from your era

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Speaker 3: I think him wearing the shirt, I wish it were colder.

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Speaker 3: That added to the whole vibe of that Bills game

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Speaker 2: this though, This makes the Niners the only team in

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Speaker 3: It's a star studying group in San Francisco.

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Speaker 2: It's a top heavy roster, no question about it. You

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Speaker 3: Well, including brock Party.

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Speaker 2: It was right. Purty makes it all possible to me.

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Speaker 2: That Also the last thing route about around the NFL,

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Speaker 2: uh Joe Andresen Buffalo Joe. Everybody's all right, he's everybody's

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Speaker 2: It's an NFL network show that's on every morning. Uh.

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Speaker 3: I mean it really is.

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Speaker 2: So I don't that's fine, it's good stuff. I love

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Speaker 2: think about it, like we were just talking about Mike McDaniel.

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Speaker 2: For every kid out there who wants to be a coach,

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Speaker 3: What I think is really important to mention here this

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Speaker 2: Now he can move, he's He's definitely got more than

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Speaker 2: Absolutely when you talk about and all the stuff that's

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Speaker 3: Jamar Chase, I think is a better receiver than Brandon Yuk.

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Speaker 3: It has to be more than thirty million per year.

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Speaker 2: Well here's the thing too. Last year you had this

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Speaker 2: He's probably not because you know what happens. He comes

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Speaker 2: He's great after the catch. He's everything you want. So

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Speaker 3: That's insane, and I think Jamar Chase would probably say

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Speaker 2: You talk about, you know, contracts and where they're at.

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Speaker 2: Then it's Joe Burrow at two seventy five, Justin Herbert

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Speaker 2: With yeah, exactly, exactly. And then you've got guys that,

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Speaker 3: For as good as the Cowboys have drafted from that

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Speaker 3: And Dak Prescott's a good quarterback. He's put up you know,

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: That's the thing too. You get these teams that and

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Speaker 3: I think he's a little I think he's ahead of Tua,

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Speaker 3: Which is why I think it speaks to they should

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Speaker 3: Josh Allen when the Bill signed him, I mean a

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Speaker 3: little bit of a different timeline. But they didn't let

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Speaker 3: Josh Allen hit free agency because that's when the price skyrockets.

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Speaker 3: They said, all right, we haven't won a super Bowl

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Speaker 3: yet with Josh Allen. We know he's super talented, and

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Speaker 3: I'm not putting Dak in the Josh Allen category. But

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Speaker 3: Dak's been well above average at times, elite at times

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Speaker 3: a little disappointing. He's probably worth between forty five and

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Speaker 3: fifty million dollars per year. If they don't sign him soon,

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Speaker 3: and I don't think they will again, he's going to

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Speaker 3: hit free agency and say, look, you've had all this

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Speaker 3: time to sign me. I've seen ten different quarterbacks get

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Speaker 3: deals and I.

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Speaker 2: Have Dak's got. Dak's already signed his second contract. I

446
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Speaker 2: mean he's making He got sixty six million to sign

447
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Speaker 2: the last deal, and his two year cash from now

448
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Speaker 2: or is like ninety five million bucks. He's gonna pull

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Speaker 2: down anyway, so he's gonna be fine.

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Speaker 3: So, oh, he's set financially. I'm just saying relative to

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Speaker 3: what other quarterbacks are making.

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Speaker 2: Right, And I'll say that. So Steve Tashner and Christapasso

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Speaker 2: here you can give us a call. This is a

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Speaker 2: Friday fan mail bag, so you can call us with

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Speaker 2: any questions you have about the Bill's roster, about the

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Speaker 2: games coming up, or whatever else you want to ask.

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Speaker 2: You can call us at eight eight five point fifty

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Speaker 2: two five fifty or eight h three oh five point fifty.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna take your phone calls in the next segment

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Speaker 2: as well. Today on the show, we also have the

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Speaker 2: Nate Tice who is a Yahoo Sports writer and also

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Speaker 2: just announced that he's an NFL Network analyst for this

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Speaker 2: coming season. So Nate Tyss gonna join us up in

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Speaker 2: the second hour of the show as well. Steve Tashner, Christapasso.

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Speaker 2: Last time we go, you know, we talk about this

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Speaker 2: roster and one of the things the overriding topics of

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Speaker 2: the Bill's training camp and this preseason has been all

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Speaker 2: the injuries and all that stuff that happened. It just

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Speaker 2: came down now also as we wrap up around the

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Speaker 2: NFL the fact that Bosa is going to have surgery on.

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Speaker 3: His hand, Joey Bosa, Joey Bosa.

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Speaker 2: Is gonna have a searcher around his hand and wear

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Speaker 2: a club for the first part of the season.

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Speaker 3: What is that like it if you're a pass rusher

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Speaker 3: and Joey Bosa when healthy is an elite pass rusher.

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Speaker 3: It's just felt like the last three or four years.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it's the Charger strength and conditioning

478
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Speaker 3: program because they've had a lot of injuries to marquee

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Speaker 3: players over the last three to five years. It just

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Speaker 3: felt like he's always been curtailed by injury. His brother

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Speaker 3: Nick not so much. Only the one season early in

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Speaker 3: his career where he tore the ACL but Joey Bosa

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Speaker 3: to be able to use his pass rushing moves with

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Speaker 3: a club on his hand, it's gonna.

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Speaker 2: Be pretty different. It's easy. Well, I hate it. There's

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Speaker 2: a it's like shaden freud where Bill's fans have had

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Speaker 2: it happen to them so much this preseason, I figured

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Speaker 2: I throw them that in them feel good that somebody else.

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Speaker 3: Have you ever had like to wear a club or

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Speaker 3: anything like respect when you play?

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Speaker 2: In fact, I at one point I could have sworn

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Speaker 2: I had more football cards with me a picture with

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Speaker 2: casts on one hand or the other than I did

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Speaker 2: when I was helping with out. So, yeah, I my

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Speaker 2: hands got broken. I'm pretty sure it's double digit times,

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Speaker 2: you know whatever.

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Speaker 3: And so yeah, so what's that?

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Speaker 2: It's you can't grab anybody.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say, like, once you start playing, does

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Speaker 3: your mind just become a football player or you constantly

501
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Speaker 3: thinking like, oh I can't really wrap up here on

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Speaker 3: this on this punch yet.

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Speaker 2: No, you just play. You just play and do what

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Speaker 2: you can do. And the bummer part, you play and

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Speaker 2: you can play all out.

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Speaker 3: You just go for it.

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Speaker 2: Because they they the club they put on your hand

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Speaker 2: almost it makes it impossible for you to hurt yourself,

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Speaker 2: even with a surge, even with a fresh surgery or

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Speaker 2: whatever they do to it. It's so padded and so immobile.

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Speaker 2: You can you can bang it, and just the jarring

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Speaker 2: of it is the only thing that will hurt it, won't.

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Speaker 2: You can't, you know, you're.

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Speaker 3: Virtually got to You can't use yours or your fingers.

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Speaker 2: The part, the bad part is during the week when

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Speaker 2: you're trying to catch passes and give the defense a

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Speaker 2: look and do the normal you know, run your normal day.

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Speaker 2: That's when it bums you out in the in football,

519
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 2: when you when the balls kicked, it's kicked, everything goes,

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Speaker 2: everything fly, know, falls away, and you're you're concentrating at

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Speaker 2: a high level. So yeah, he'll be fine on game day.

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Speaker 2: Well even if he can't you know, he you know,

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Speaker 2: can't grab somebody, but he's still a force to be

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Speaker 2: reckoned with a little Steve. So we're gonna take a

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Speaker 2: break where to come back, get into your phone calls

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Speaker 2: and get into your tweets that you have and the

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Speaker 2: questions you've asked of us. As Steve Tasker. Christapass Are

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Speaker 2: you listening to Buffalo Bill's Radio. This is One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to One Bill's Live. Steve Tasker, Chris Trpasso

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Speaker 2: in for Chris Brown. We're gonna go right back and

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Speaker 2: talk to you. Are listeners, We'll talk to Bruce, Bruce

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Speaker 2: and Ken Moore. You're on with Steve and Chris. What's

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Speaker 2: on your mind?

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Speaker 5: Stephen Chris? Three things? First, yesterday, Steve, you mentioned it's

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Speaker 5: been a long off season. But for somebody like me,

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Speaker 5: I enjoy your show so much and I feel like

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Speaker 5: I'm dialed into the Bills all year long. It's just

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Speaker 5: so enjoyable watching you. The second thing is does the

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Speaker 5: NFL keep statistics on concussions by player position? Because I

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Speaker 5: got to thinking about that in relation to I guess

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Speaker 5: primarily they happen on special teams, But do they happen

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Speaker 5: with the gunners or the punt returners? And if they

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Speaker 5: keep statistics on the offense and defense? And then the lastly,

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Speaker 5: Maddie interviewed Mac Collins during one of the exhibition games

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Speaker 5: and he was in his bare feet and it reminded

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Speaker 5: me back in the mid nineteen sixties when Michigan State

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Speaker 5: had the national championship team in sixty five and the

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Speaker 5: co champion with Michigan State with a Notre Dame in

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Speaker 5: sixty six. Michigan State had a kicker named Dick Kenny

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Speaker 5: who was born in Hawaii. He was a barefoot kicker,

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Speaker 5: but he did not kick soccers though. He kicked straight

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Speaker 5: on and I couldn't set them at that day and

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Speaker 5: I still can't. I mean, how could someone do that?

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Speaker 5: And especially like in the Big Ten in November, you're

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Speaker 5: kicking in Madison, Wisconsin and Evanson, Illinois, and Minneapolis's and

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Speaker 5: you can see him. There's an eighteen second video on

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Speaker 5: YouTube of him kicking straight up. And I just don't

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Speaker 5: know if you guys remember him or heard of him,

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Speaker 5: but it was just remarkable. And that's that's all I

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Speaker 5: wanted to say.

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Speaker 2: Thanks, Bruce, I appreciate. Yeah, there's a lot a lot there.

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Speaker 2: I do not remember the guy. I knew there was

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Speaker 2: some soccer style barefoot kickers. In fact, I was drafted

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Speaker 2: with Lee Johnson, who was a barefoot punter and kicker.

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Speaker 2: Interesting barefoot punter, Yeah, kicking straight on it me. You

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Speaker 2: know what you do is your big toe stands up

567
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Speaker 2: and you hit it with the ball of your foot

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Speaker 2: straight on and you don't hit it with the end

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Speaker 2: of your toes. You hit it with the underneath the

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Speaker 2: ball of your foot. So I don't remember that guy.

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Speaker 2: That's before my time. But yeah, that's and by the way,

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Speaker 2: thanks for being a faithful listener and a viewer of

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Speaker 2: the show. I appreciate that. Yeah, and the statistics about concussions, Yes,

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Speaker 2: the league takes The league has all the information about concussions.

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Speaker 2: They in fact, that's why they keep tinkering with the

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Speaker 2: kickoff play. And now we've got this dynamic kickoff that

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Speaker 2: they're using this year. We've been talking a lot about

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Speaker 2: it and you've seen and people are noticing it and

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Speaker 2: they're you know, we're we've got great anticipation what is

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Speaker 2: actually going to look like they're gonna The modifications they've

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Speaker 2: made to that play are in direct response to information about.

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Speaker 3: Concussions mostly happening on kickoffs.

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Speaker 2: On kickoffs and kickoff returns. Yes, because it's yeah, back

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Speaker 2: in the old days, when you know, back in the

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Speaker 2: dark ages, when I was out there and you know

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Speaker 2: we were we were wearing leather helmets and no fai. Okay,

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Speaker 2: back in those days, you had the way the play

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Speaker 2: was designed. You guys, remember all the old guys, remember this.

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Speaker 2: You'd have four offensive linemen. They would run back to

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Speaker 2: get in front of the kickoff return guy. He catches it,

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Speaker 2: and those four offensive linemen or big dudes would get

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Speaker 2: shoulder to shoulder and take off running up the field,

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Speaker 2: and the returner would come right in behind him. And

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Speaker 2: you had guys that were called wedgebusters. And you come

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Speaker 2: in and you kind of try to blow a hole

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Speaker 2: in those four guys. You try and take one of

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Speaker 2: them out or two of them out, or you try

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Speaker 2: and get them to come at you and leave a

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Speaker 2: gap so one of your teammates could go in and

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Speaker 2: do it.

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Speaker 3: So that seemed like a fun job.

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Speaker 2: You have. You have six foot three or five plus

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Speaker 2: guys weighing three hundred pounds shoulder to shoulder, running as

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Speaker 2: hard as fast as they could up the field looking

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Speaker 2: for somebody. And then you have guys come in the

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Speaker 2: other direction on the coverage team looking for them, and

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00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 2: nobody's trying to avoid they're all they're running into each

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Speaker 2: other on purpose. That leads to concussions. Unbelievably, How could

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Speaker 2: it happen?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 2: Who would have thought right? Concussions happened at an alarming rate,

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Speaker 2: and so then when players started turning up later in

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Speaker 2: life and having some issues, they started trying to hold

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Speaker 2: the league responsible for it. And the league said, okay,

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Speaker 2: we'll look at it, and they start doing it, and

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Speaker 2: they started tinkering with it and making it safer for

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Speaker 2: the current players. And they've done a nice and I

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Speaker 2: think an honest, made an honest effort to get it right.

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Speaker 2: They have tinkered with it a couple of times, and

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Speaker 2: they're trying to keep the play in the game, but

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Speaker 2: change it in such a way so as to make

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Speaker 2: it not any more dangerous than any other play. And

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Speaker 2: so I think we'll see how this next iteration does.

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Speaker 2: But that's yes, they have all the information about how

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Speaker 2: many guys get concussions, who they get at, what positions

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Speaker 2: they do, what they were doing when they got the concussion. Yes,

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Speaker 2: it's all, and you know they're they're never going to

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Speaker 2: make that public because first of all, the union doesn't

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Speaker 2: want private health information about its players to be get

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Speaker 2: gotten out. And then and you know the league is

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Speaker 2: the same way, So they do make decisions based on

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Speaker 2: that data. And that's what you're seeing when they when

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Speaker 2: they change the rules. Not all the rule changes are

634
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 2: like that, but probably more than you give credit for

635
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 2: are due to players saying like, there's no there's no

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00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 2: peelback blocks anymore, there's no blind side blocks, there's no

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00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 2: leg whips, there's no you know, there's no chop blocks

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00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,959
Speaker 2: there's and all those seem of course not but they

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00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 2: used to be perfectly legal.

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Speaker 3: I know, I find this like such a conundrum h

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Speaker 3: and I am all for player safety. I want the

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Speaker 3: best players to be on the field, the best product,

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Speaker 3: the most entertaining. You will get a point or many

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Speaker 3: points throughout the season, whether you're a Bills fan watching

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00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 3: the Bills or just watching any other NFL game, where

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00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 3: you will see a safety come down on a post

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Speaker 3: route and hit the receiver and it looks like from

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Speaker 3: what you grew up with, a perfectly clean hit the ball.

649
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 3: It gets Jared Lewis, it's incomplete. The rest call it

650
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 3: a flag. Then you get the complaints of oh, he's

651
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 3: just playing football, like what why are they not letting

652
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 3: him play like that anymore? That at the same time,

653
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 3: you also want there to be player safety. So I

654
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 3: think in general and certainly not compared or certainly compared

655
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 3: to one of you played Steve, the game is I

656
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 3: don't want to say it's softer. I think it's just

657
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 3: smarter about like you're saying, like, oh, how.

658
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: How say.

659
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 2: Yes, you're right. I'll say this though, it is good

660
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 2: in the big picture, it's good. The problem is now

661
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 2: for defenders. It's you know, the defenders are getting they're

662
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 2: getting called you're soft. You don't hit like he used to.

663
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 2: You don't nobody knows how to tackle anymore that But

664
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 2: in actuality, the defenders are as big and strong and

665
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 2: tough as they've ever been, but they're not allowed to

666
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 2: play like they used to play. They're not allowed to

667
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 2: come in and tackle that guy like we used to

668
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 2: see guys tackle. You hit the guy high up around

669
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 2: his head to knock him off balance, or download to

670
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 2: knock him off balance. If you hit these guys come

671
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 2: in Jamar Chase, a guy like me or a two

672
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 2: hundred pound safety comes in and hits Jamar Chase in

673
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 2: the Torso Jamar Chase is gonna keep his feet. You're

674
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 2: not knocking him off balance.

675
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 3: It definite.

676
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 2: So they have to figure out ways to maximize what

677
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 2: they're allowed to do and you'll see this now. We

678
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 2: talk about this a lot on the show, and I

679
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 2: because we do get a call once in a while,

680
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 2: like Bruce from ken Moore about now you see defenders

681
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 2: going up and not hitting the guy or tackling the

682
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 2: guy to the ground. You know, we saw it like

683
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 2: Joe Andrees a great example. He was tackling guys to

684
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 2: the ground in the run game and coming to the

685
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 2: edge and all that. But in the secondary you see

686
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 2: guys come up and they'll start tackling the ball. They're

687
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 2: grabbing the ball or punching the ball out, or getting

688
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 2: the guy's arm and peeling his hand off the ball

689
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 2: and trying to knock it out. That is more how

690
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 2: defenders play ball nowadays, and that's been a complete and

691
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 2: direct response as to what they're allowed to do defensively

692
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 2: and to maximize what they're allowed to do. It's just

693
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 2: get the ball. You give himn extra five yards of

694
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 2: field position, but at the end of it, the ball

695
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 2: comes out and you get it.

696
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 3: Who cares exactly? And now there's no hip drop tackle

697
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 3: this year.

698
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 2: No hip drop tackle. For those of you who don't know.

699
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,240
Speaker 2: You come up behind the guy, you grab him around

700
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 2: the waist, and then you throw your body onto the

701
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 2: back of his legs and pull him down because you're

702
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 2: trying to get his legs tangled up so he can't

703
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 2: run anymore.

704
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 3: It's how Mark Andrews broke his ankle last year. Logan Wilson,

705
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 3: the Bengals linebacker near the goal line hip drop tackle

706
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 3: on Mark Andrews, the elite tight end for the Ravens,

707
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 3: and that type of tackle. I didn't see it a

708
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 3: lot get called in the preseason. I'm not sure if

709
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 3: it was, but that is a new rule that does

710
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 3: make it harder for defenders because you can't go high,

711
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 3: you can't go super low, you can't do certain things

712
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 3: in general. Though, I guess my point was you can't

713
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 3: have it both ways. Where you want it to be football, Steve,

714
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,800
Speaker 3: You're going to tackle him from behind and keep the

715
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 3: guy safer, because it was to the point where there

716
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 3: was just guys like you're saying, later in life having

717
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 3: severe brain and knee and shoulder issues. I want these

718
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,240
Speaker 3: guys to not only stay on the field for Sundays

719
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 3: for our enjoyment, but also later in life still be

720
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 3: able to have a quality of life once they are

721
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 3: done with.

722
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Speaker 2: Football and I'll say this to like you saw. I

723
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 2: believe ed Ulio made a nice play. What you're allowed

724
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 2: to do now if you're going to tackle the guy

725
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 2: from behind it used to be, and i still is

726
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 2: to a certain extent. You want to inflict as much

727
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 2: physical punishment on the guys.

728
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:32,919
Speaker 1: You can't.

729
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 2: You're trying to rule, you're trying to set him, You're

730
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 2: trying to, you know, break his will to play ball.

731
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 2: And now what you are allowed to do is guys

732
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 2: would come in, get and drop on back of them

733
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 2: and try and bend them over, you know, try and

734
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 2: get them in an awkward position. Now, edul Lafocho did

735
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 2: in the I think as in the Bears game, maybe

736
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 2: as a Steelers game. He came in or no, it

737
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 2: was a Carolina Carolina came in behind him, and you

738
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 2: got to grab with their legs and pull them down

739
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 2: that way. You can't. You don't fall on them. You

740
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 2: grab their legs and you push them, pull them down

741
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 2: with you on top of them. Perfectly textbook tackle. And

742
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,439
Speaker 2: that's fine. That's not a hip drop tackle. So they're

743
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 2: still allowed to do it and tackle guys and wrap

744
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 2: them up. But defenders are really getting put in a

745
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 2: more compromised position because of the rules. Not compromise, i

746
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 2: would say, but more difficult position to make a play

747
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 2: than they've ever been put in.

748
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 3: What I think the league in a way likes about

749
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 3: the push for player safety is like we're kind of

750
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,760
Speaker 3: getting at it makes it so much harder to play defense,

751
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 3: which leads to more yards and score point. I'll say

752
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 3: this too, it's kind of a win win for the league.

753
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 2: I'll say this too. You know, they started protecting quarterbacks

754
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 2: and you know, and they you know, like, well, okay,

755
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:55,720
Speaker 2: then you had Ben Roethlisberger played for sixteen years, Aaron

756
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 2: Rodgers forty, Tom Brady was forty. You're going to get

757
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 2: these guys who you know, and Matt Ryan played for

758
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 2: sixteen seventeen years. I mean, so you get you're going

759
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 2: to have certain positions that are going to be able

760
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 2: to play longer. And you know, we all would love

761
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 2: to see Josh Allen playing six Yeah, played till he's six,

762
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,439
Speaker 2: till sixteen years. Whatever it is. You know, it does

763
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 2: make it possible for guys to do that. Offensive lineman

764
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 2: Jason Peters did that. He played for a long long time.

765
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 2: Jackie Slater did it, Bruce Matthews did it guys from

766
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 2: my era who were, you know, beneficiaries of long careers.

767
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 2: I don't know that you can directly correlate that to

768
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 2: changes in probably the rules. It certainly doesn't hurt. So

769
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 2: I think he had a chance to see great players,

770
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 2: legendary players, maybe play for a year or two or

771
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 2: three or four longer than we would have.

772
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 3: One last point on concussions. You're right, Steve that the

773
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 3: NFL is never going to come out with the specifics,

774
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 3: but there was ten years ago, twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen,

775
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,919
Speaker 3: an independent study done by a bunch of different PhDs

776
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 3: at the Ican School of Medicine at Mount Sinite, New York.

777
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,240
Speaker 3: That was the title of the study is concussion incidents

778
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 3: in professional football, and unsurprisingly they found cornerbacks, wide receivers,

779
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 3: and linebackers have the highest incidence. And if you just

780
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 3: think about watching football, those are the high speed collision guys.

781
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 3: Linebackers running downhill meeting a fullback or a pulling guard,

782
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 3: and receivers and corners of course riding they're colliding and

783
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 3: they're all running in the four fours. So those three

784
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 3: positions to answer Bruce's question, at least ten years ago,

785
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 3: and I'm sure it hasn't changed much. Have the highest

786
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 3: incidents of concussion rates in the NFL, right, And.

787
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 2: I yes, it's always a part of the allure of

788
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 2: the game is a physicality. There's no question about it.

789
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 3: You just got to find that balance of what you like.

790
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,280
Speaker 3: But you're not gonna want to see someone get knocked

791
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 3: cold or out in a stretcher, because we've all certainly

792
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 3: been through that, right And watching a game of your

793
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,720
Speaker 3: face team or another game where you're watching you're watching

794
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 3: Chiefs Ravens on Thursday night, and there's a guy that

795
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 3: gets just absolutely crushed and he's on a stretcher. Here's

796
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 3: another thing that's bad that that takes away from the

797
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 3: product on the field.

798
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 2: Earlier in this just before we go to break, we'll

799
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 2: end this player safety segment with this and we'll we'll

800
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 2: get to uh, we'll get to the next calor Rick

801
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 2: in California in a minute. After the break, you talk

802
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 2: about what can be done. Certainly the rule changes have

803
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 2: been big. But now this year I read an article

804
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 2: that the league has certified I think six or six

805
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 2: or twelve new types of helmets. There's twelve new types

806
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 2: of helmets that are going to be implemented in the NFL,

807
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 2: six of which are safer than helmets from previous years

808
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 2: with a shell on them.

809
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 3: Guardian cap.

810
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, there, with the Guardian cap, they're safer than Yeah,

811
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 2: they're safer than that.

812
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 3: That's great.

813
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 2: So that in and of itself will help a ton.

814
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,720
Speaker 2: We have any players reducing concussions, and you know, quarterback

815
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 2: they've always had, you know, special quarterback helmets, that kind

816
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 2: of thing. So the equipment and particularly the helmet and

817
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 2: the changes to that will will make a difference as well. Rick.

818
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 2: We'll get to you after the break. Steve Tasher, Chris Tapasso,

819
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,399
Speaker 2: lots more to come on One Bill's Live. You're listening

820
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 2: to Buffalo Bills Radio. We'll be right back. Welcome back

821
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Speaker 2: to one Bill's Live. I'm just putting my computer shutdown.

822
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 2: I had to put my password back and I do

823
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 2: that constantly. We're gonna get back, get back to the phones.

824
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 2: Rick is out in California. Rick, you got a question

825
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 2: for us here on One Bill's Live. Thanks for calling.

826
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 2: What's on your mind?

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Speaker 4: Hey now much here see, thank you so much for

828
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 4: taking my call, sir, you bet so, I got a

829
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 4: one statement and one question that I really want your

830
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 4: opinion on. Well, my statement is, I think we are

831
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 4: definitely set up this season. The only thing that's really

832
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 4: gonna hurt us really bad like it does every year,

833
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,800
Speaker 4: as penalties and injuries. If we could keep everybody healthy

834
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,399
Speaker 4: and if everybody is smart between the ears and doesn't

835
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 4: get those penalties against us, we're gonna be probably the

836
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 4: toughest team in the league to beat in my opinion,

837
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 4: and everybody that's so sour on Sean McDermott, I'll never understand.

838
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 4: I mean, I lived through the seventeen year drought myself,

839
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 4: and I would much rather have the hopes and praise

840
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 4: of getting to the playoffs and getting further than to

841
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,399
Speaker 4: knowing that we're gonna get most likely a top ten

842
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:37,399
Speaker 4: draft pick, you know what I mean. So, if any

843
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 4: coach is gonna be under screeney here and I started

844
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 4: to say it like this, but Smiley, this is your year, buddy.

845
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 4: If you don't take it out and get better, I

846
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 4: think he's definitely on the chop block this year for sure.

847
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 4: That being said, I have a really creative way to

848
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 4: make preseason better and I want your guys' opinion real quick.

849
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 4: Instead of like not judging our receivers properly because we

850
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 4: have a string, third string, fourth string quarterback throwing to them.

851
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 4: What if we made a policy where QB one can

852
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,399
Speaker 4: stay in the game longer and put like a red

853
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 4: jersey effect on him to where if anybody gets a

854
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 4: couple of hands on them or whatever have you, the

855
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 4: play is dead. No one's allowed to touch the quarterback.

856
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 4: But that way, at least that we're intended receivers that

857
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 4: we hope to keep, like shorter Isabella. You know, all

858
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 4: those guys, we can get an accurate judgment and reading

859
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 4: on them by having Josh Allen throw to them most

860
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 4: of the time. Yeah, and we really can't get a

861
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 4: great evaluation and seeing the second string of the third

862
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:37,479
Speaker 4: string thrown to our guys.

863
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 3: It's fair point.

864
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Speaker 4: And we don't know really what to think of our

865
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Speaker 4: guys because QB one obviously is not thrown to them.

866
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Speaker 4: You know what I mean, what do you gotta think

867
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Speaker 4: about that?

868
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Speaker 2: I know exactly. Well, thanks for the call, Rick, it's

869
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,240
Speaker 2: a good it's a good idea. I get the idea

870
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Speaker 2: of it. I don't think it works, and I'll say

871
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 2: this too. They got plenty of time to do that

872
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 2: in practice in a training camp and at Saint John

873
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 2: Fisher for the Bills and every other training camp. Plus

874
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 2: that's what the That's why CO which is nowadays really

875
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 2: like the joint practices because players are used to practicing

876
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 2: like that. They are used to like letting up at

877
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 2: the quarterback. They're not gonna hurt their own guy, so

878
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 2: they they go in against another team. So everybody's competing

879
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 2: against fresh competition and some higher intensity stuff. But they

880
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 2: also are competing against guys who know they're not gonna

881
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 2: hurt the other team's quarterback, and then it's not full go.

882
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 2: That's why these joint practices are becoming more and more prevalent.

883
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 2: I don't think they will tinker with the game a

884
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 2: p even if it's a preseason game. They won't tinker

885
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 2: with it like the in the manner than what you're suggesting.

886
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 2: It's just too much, I think, and I don't think

887
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 2: they will. Put you'll have a hard time getting it

888
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 2: past the league that your quarterback is having a hard time.

889
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 2: You're having a hard time evaluating your players. They're not

890
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 2: gonna that's not gonna fly. That's not gonna fly as

891
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 2: an excuse. So you're right. I think for fans and

892
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 2: for and for guys like me and Chris, it is

893
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 2: hard for us to evaluate some of the younger players

894
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 2: because of the atmosphere of what a preseason game is.

895
00:43:59,719 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 6: Like.

896
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 2: You got these guys that don't make the team out

897
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 2: there playing with guys who do make the team. That's

898
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 2: a problem, But it's really only a problem for me

899
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,280
Speaker 2: and you and Chris and us out here. The coaches

900
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Speaker 2: and players have a much easier job of it.

901
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think on the surface, it's actually not a

902
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 3: bad idea, but I think you also have to look

903
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 3: at it. We were just talked about last segment player safety,

904
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 3: how hard it is to just be a defender in

905
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 3: the NFL today. What about for the edge rushers that

906
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 3: you never really get in a preseason game to show

907
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 3: it if you can finish a sack, you' oh you

908
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 3: got the pressure, but would you have taken him down

909
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,879
Speaker 3: with the quarterback have slipped out of there. I think

910
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,959
Speaker 3: defensive coordinators and defensive players part of the union would

911
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 3: be like, hey, like they can get their reps on

912
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 3: offense in practice and in the joint practices like you mentioned.

913
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 3: So it's not a terrible idea and The league is

914
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 3: very player safety conscious at this point, but I think

915
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Speaker 3: you have to be able to evaluate all the players,

916
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 3: even the pass rushers, the blitzing linebackers and things like that.

917
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know all that's in that mix, and

918
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 2: you're right there. They continue to come up with ways

919
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 2: to get quarterbacks meaningful work in the preseason, but it

920
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 2: always comes with the risk. And I think part of

921
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,879
Speaker 2: the allure of the game and what makes the game

922
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Speaker 2: so compelling is the physicality of it. I tell people

923
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Speaker 2: all the time, and most of you know, I spent

924
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 2: a lot of time after obviously a lot of time

925
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,879
Speaker 2: on the field, you know, I played for thirteen years,

926
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Speaker 2: but then I was on the sidelines as a sideline

927
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Speaker 2: reporter for CBS off and on for twenty one more years.

928
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Speaker 2: Plus I was in the booth for those years as well.

929
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 2: And I'm telling you people always ask me, Wow, it

930
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 2: must have been really cool to be on the sidelines

931
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 2: for the game. I go, yeah, I go. But if

932
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 2: you get a chance to go down on the sidelines

933
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Speaker 2: for an NFL game, don't do it. You'll never be

934
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Speaker 2: able to watch it any other way. That game because

935
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 2: of the size and the speed and the intensity and

936
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Speaker 2: the aggression that all those guys play with is it's startling.

937
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Speaker 3: I think it's for a guy like me. Yeah, I

938
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 3: mean you played, you are on the sideline. I didn't play.

939
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 3: You've never been on the sideline during a game. But

940
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 3: I've watched a ton of football head to evaluate college players.

941
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 3: To me, it's kind of this. It's a parallel to

942
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 3: watching an NBA game, where you're watching them all play.

943
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 3: You see dunks, you see easy layups, guys shooting the

944
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 3: ball from fire away, making threes, and then you realize,

945
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,399
Speaker 3: or it's hard to realize that everyone on the court

946
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 3: is like six '.

947
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 4: Four and up.

948
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 2: It's they're freakishly tall.

949
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 3: They're freakishly tall. NFL is the same way you watch

950
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 3: an NFL game, your brain gets a customer. Hey, look

951
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 3: there's that running back. He went there. The cornerback ranged

952
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 3: over tackled them. That's a safety or corner that ran

953
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 3: four to three four. That's a running back that has

954
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 3: a forty inch vertical and everyone is like that on them.

955
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 2: I tell this story all the time. I was on

956
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 2: the sidelines of a Monday night game Pittsburgh with Ben

957
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 2: Roethlisberger in Cincinnati. I'm on one side of the field

958
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 2: at the far end of the bench area. They're coming

959
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 2: out of the other end. They hit a slant route

960
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 2: to Mike Wallace back in the day when Mike Wallace

961
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 2: was playing with stupers right, He's fast, he turned catch

962
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 2: that slant comes right, and the angles and all that

963
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 2: were right. They were running right at me. Mike Wallace

964
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 2: is running at me. Two of his teammates are trying

965
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Speaker 2: to catch up to him to block for him, and

966
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Speaker 2: all the defensive backfield and everybody else they're running. They're

967
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 2: chasing him, and they're running right at me. They tackle

968
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Speaker 2: him out of bounds right in front of me, and

969
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 2: you can feel ground shape and the intensity and the

970
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 2: speed and the velocity that they come through there with

971
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 2: all tangled up and just out of them. Yeah, I

972
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 2: was like, somebody's dead. And I was like, somebody is

973
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 2: not getting up.

974
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: That was bad.

975
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:44,839
Speaker 2: And like half a second, all of them are back

976
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 2: on their feet. Not only they okay, they're chirping at

977
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 2: each other. They're like, let's go. I was like, dude,

978
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 2: I am so glad I'm retired. It was an unbelievable scene.

979
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe it.

980
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,240
Speaker 3: What's crazy about that? Is is that Steve you played

981
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 3: with reckless abandoned nineties and ye're saying that is someone

982
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 3: that played with his hair on fire and even that

983
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 3: ten fifteen, twenty years later, those guys just insane to you.

984
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 3: That's that's a really impressive feed.

985
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Speaker 2: We're gonna take a break. Nack Tice of Yahoos Sports

986
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 2: and the NFL Networks gonna join us. Steve Tasker and

987
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 2: Christapaso come back and join us. Give us a call

988
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 2: at eight oh three oh five point fifty or eight

989
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 2: at eight five point fifty two five fifty Steve Tasker, Christrapasso.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to Bill's Radio, and this is One Bill's Live.

991
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Speaker 1: These One Bill's Live presented by called lighta Health.

992
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 2: Welcome back to the second hour of One Bill's Live.

993
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,720
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us. We are pleased to be joined

994
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 2: now by Nate Tice, who's a Yahoo NFL writer. He

995
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,919
Speaker 2: hosts also the Football three oh one podcast. Nate joins

996
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 2: the show. Nate's also joining the NFL network as an

997
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,800
Speaker 2: analyst for the twenty twenty four season. Congratulations on that.

998
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 2: When did you find out about that? That's new? Right?

999
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's new.

1000
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 7: It's been the works for a while, and honestly, I

1001
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 7: didn't hear anything for a good six weeks, so I

1002
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 7: was like, is this even still happening? And then they

1003
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 7: announced it, so yeah, I actually have to get used

1004
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 7: to that intro too, because I've been sitting on it

1005
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 7: for a while.

1006
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Speaker 1: So I'm very excited that thank you has the introduction.

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00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 2: That's awesome, thanks for joining us here.

1008
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 1: About the rest of us about two weeks ago, that's.

1009
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Speaker 2: Right, cool. Yeah, the we're you know, just winding up.

1010
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,879
Speaker 2: The training camps now are all over, the preseasons done.

1011
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 2: Everybody's reving up for the opening weekend and everybody gets

1012
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 2: Labor Day weekend off. What are your thoughts now about

1013
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 2: just in general now about Buffalo's roster as we head

1014
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 2: into this opener.

1015
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 7: I like it a lot more than maybe I did

1016
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:14,439
Speaker 7: two months ago. And maybe it's this guy named Josh

1017
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:15,479
Speaker 7: Allen and I'm like, oh.

1018
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're really good. I really like you. I really

1019
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: like what you do. But it's other things with this

1020
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: Bills team.

1021
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 7: I really like their run game, even if the offensive line,

1022
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 7: maybe outside of Dana Dawkins, is more just fine, but

1023
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,320
Speaker 7: it's pretty solid across the board as opposed to a

1024
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:34,240
Speaker 7: lot of offensive lines that are maybe two guys missing

1025
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 7: one guy that shouldn't be on any roster or playing.

1026
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Speaker 7: And I actually have been really liking what the Bills

1027
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Speaker 7: have done with Joe Brady and before that Kendorcy.

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Speaker 1: With their run game.

1029
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Speaker 7: I really do think they have found a formula that

1030
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 7: works for them as far as some under center runs.

1031
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Speaker 7: They've added some new things the gun that they do.

1032
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 7: They even hinted at some stuff in the preseason that's

1033
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,399
Speaker 7: cool to me. With this Bills team, I actually really

1034
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 7: like that they're running some staples but trying to be

1035
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 7: innovative with not just going hey, Josh, go make a play.

1036
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 7: They're actually trying to help trying to lift up the

1037
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 7: floor of the team. So the offense, I'm pretty excited about,

1038
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,399
Speaker 7: even losing Stefan dis. I actually think that they're gonna

1039
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 7: be the past catchers who would be the greater some

1040
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 7: of other parts where everybody's role makes sense to me,

1041
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 7: Kean Coleman and Dalton Kincaid working inside, maybe Khalil Shaker

1042
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 7: can move around, and I just it's really come together

1043
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 7: for me in the running back room. And I just

1044
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 7: trust the defensive coaches even if you lose guys that

1045
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 7: have been there for forever. In the safeties, these guys

1046
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 7: have been banged up and when they've had backups in there,

1047
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 7: this coaching staff has done such a good job of

1048
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:36,399
Speaker 7: making sure everyone's doing their jobs well.

1049
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Speaker 1: So I don't think any floor is falling out.

1050
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Speaker 7: I've really come around about this Bills team where I'm like, yeah,

1051
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 7: I feel good about them, way better than I did

1052
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 7: maybe two months ago.

1053
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Speaker 3: All Right, Nate, I have a softball question for you,

1054
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 3: because everyone in WATSH, New York has heard about Josh

1055
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 3: Allen earning the most votes from this player survey as

1056
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Speaker 3: the most overrated player in the NFL. Is someone that's

1057
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 3: an analyst that watch which is a lot of film,

1058
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Speaker 3: that understands the quarterback position pretty intimately. Where do you

1059
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 3: come down on that? Do you think it's preposterous? Do

1060
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 3: you think there is some credence to it? Just what

1061
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 3: were your overall thoughts when you saw the video of

1062
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 3: them announcing Josh Allen as the most overrated player based

1063
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,760
Speaker 3: on you know, a survey of the NFL players.

1064
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I'm on the right show for this rat

1065
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Speaker 7: It's preprosperous, prosperous, prosperous.

1066
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 1: Oh my God, keep it talk. That's how fired up

1067
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Speaker 1: I am.

1068
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Speaker 7: It's he to me, after Mahomes is the clear number two,

1069
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 7: and then there's a gap, and then there's the rest

1070
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Speaker 7: and then a group of three or four guys, I

1071
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Speaker 7: would say after that. So if you want to say

1072
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Speaker 7: that he's Tier one B after or Tier S, Tier S,

1073
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 7: tier minus, you know, whatever you want to say. I

1074
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 7: think Josh Allen has been underrated in the fact that

1075
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Speaker 7: he's really become a proper quarterback and not just a

1076
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,399
Speaker 7: forceome nature with a big arm and legs and could

1077
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 7: run past everybody, run over everybody. He handles pre snap

1078
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,280
Speaker 7: operation as well as anybody right now in the NFL,

1079
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 7: and I think that just goes by the wayside because

1080
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,839
Speaker 7: we think of the plays like the Bengals game last

1081
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 7: year where he tries a whole shot and he throws

1082
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 7: a pick on it.

1083
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:13,399
Speaker 1: That's what Josh Allen does.

1084
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 7: He completes that five times and everyone's like, oh cool,

1085
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 7: But he makes it seem so normal that we kind

1086
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 7: of forget that that's the freakiest stuff that we see

1087
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 7: in the.

1088
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,399
Speaker 1: NFL, and that's the level that he's at.

1089
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 7: He's making the freaky seem you know, mundane, like he

1090
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 7: makes that kind of stuff seem like, oh, just Josh

1091
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 7: doing Josh. And I think that the stuff that the

1092
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 7: layers that he's added to his game is again, we've

1093
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 7: gone falling by the wayside the mental side, handling protections

1094
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 7: and moving guys around. I have multiple clips I've tweeted

1095
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 7: before where you can hear Josh Allen communicating and changing

1096
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 7: where the offensive line's going, But yet you only hear

1097
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:52,280
Speaker 7: certain quarterbacks label ass cerebral the Burrows of the world,

1098
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:54,959
Speaker 7: and that kind of it's funny that you could be both.

1099
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,720
Speaker 7: You could be cerebral and be the you know, golden

1100
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 7: retriever from Hell that Josh Allen could be sometimes as

1101
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 7: a quarterback. So I just I really do think that

1102
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 7: it's kind of the fact that he's been labeled as

1103
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 7: overrated is very surprising to me because even how he

1104
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 7: plays that even if he didn't know the mental side,

1105
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 7: watch him play and run around, and I know there's turnovers,

1106
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:17,879
Speaker 7: but he tries so much that that's gonna happen.

1107
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: He's trying things. That's the usage rate of it all.

1108
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:23,359
Speaker 7: So yeah, I think to me, Josh Allen solidified as

1109
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 7: an easy number two and It's kind of been funny.

1110
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: Others have kind of banged on this. At one point, Brian.

1111
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,800
Speaker 7: Urlacker got labeled as the most overrated player in the

1112
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:32,359
Speaker 7: NFL and then he followed it up with like three

1113
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 7: straight All Pro teams, like you know, so you know,

1114
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 7: but the players aren't really evaluating a lot of All

1115
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 7: twenty two, so that I will say, that's so.

1116
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 2: We got this. So we got this new offensive coordinator

1117
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:47,360
Speaker 2: and a little bit of I don't know, excitement about

1118
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,240
Speaker 2: what Joe Brady can do with a full off season

1119
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,800
Speaker 2: with Josh Allen the running back room. When Joe Brady

1120
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 2: took over, let's face it, they were six and six

1121
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,280
Speaker 2: coming down the stretch. They had to win these games

1122
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 2: to get in the playoffs, and they did. And one

1123
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:03,800
Speaker 2: of the byproducts of that, in the interesting stats was

1124
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:05,879
Speaker 2: they ran the ball fifty two percent of the time

1125
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 2: when they were coming down the stretch and must win games. Now,

1126
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,720
Speaker 2: as you said, their offensive line is bigger, more athletic

1127
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:17,359
Speaker 2: without Mitch Morris, and they've got Ty Johnson, James Cook,

1128
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 2: Ray Davis. They got some nice I mean, is this

1129
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 2: a little bit of a shift in what the Bills

1130
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 2: might ask from Josh Allen.

1131
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 7: It's it's a continuation of a shift. Yeah, you already

1132
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 7: kind of hinted at it is. And this is kind

1133
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 7: of what I was talking about with the run game stuff.

1134
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:38,919
Speaker 7: I think before it was their run game was at

1135
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 7: you know, a good helping of Josh Allen's legs. And

1136
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 7: now they're trying to be a traditional run game, meaning

1137
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:47,879
Speaker 7: not even QB Reid stuff, more just hand the ball

1138
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 7: off and block, no RPOs attached to it. And this

1139
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 7: has been a long trend for I think this Bill's offense,

1140
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 7: even from when Dables here and the game that always

1141
00:55:57,560 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 7: comes to mind was it was a a Buccaneers game,

1142
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 7: so it must have been twenty twenty one, they were

1143
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 7: playing at Tampa. And I remember in that game was

1144
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 7: that the Bucks Todd Bowles just kind of they were

1145
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:11,879
Speaker 7: trying to run all these RPOs and quick game stuff,

1146
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 7: and they were just like, sure, go for it, two

1147
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 7: yards tackle, fine, we'll make you throw another hot route

1148
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 7: and you have to throw another.

1149
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 1: Bubble and we'll tackle it.

1150
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 7: And ever since that game, there has been just in

1151
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:23,879
Speaker 7: the building, no matter who's been calling plays for him,

1152
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 7: there's just been some evolution of like, hey, which church

1153
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 7: and state our run game. In our pass game, we

1154
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 7: are a traditional dropback pass some play action stuff, and

1155
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 7: we're a traditional run game where we just hand the

1156
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 7: ball off and then when you know, push comes to shove.

1157
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 7: All right, Josh, all right, let's go. Let's dial up

1158
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 7: some plays for you. And I think that we're going

1159
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:44,240
Speaker 7: to kind of continue to see that well under Brady,

1160
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 7: Like this this summer, they've already used and it'd just

1161
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,240
Speaker 7: been on a zone run that I've only seen college

1162
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 7: teams use, and I've been curious if an NFL team

1163
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 7: uses it. And the Bills were using it in the preseason.

1164
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 7: They didn't even save it for the regular season. And

1165
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 7: so that's why I think that, Yeah, I don't think

1166
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 7: that's going away. I think they're just going to continue

1167
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 7: add the layers. Adding Ray Davis is a really nice

1168
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 7: subtle draft pick for them because he is more to

1169
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 7: what I think they want to do, where it's like

1170
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 7: they want five yards. This isn't a run game to

1171
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 7: get twenty yards to be explosive. They're going to get

1172
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 7: that through the passing game. They just want this to

1173
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 7: be hyper efficient. That's where Ray Davis comes in, and

1174
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 7: I think they have the horses to do it. There's

1175
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 7: a lot of teams that want to do this, but

1176
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 7: the Bills actually have the scheme, the personnel, and they

1177
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 7: already have proof.

1178
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 1: Of concept that they've done it before.

1179
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 7: So yeah, I think that's not going away where this

1180
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 7: becomes more of a fifty to fifty run passpoot kind of.

1181
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 3: Team moving across the AFC East. Just give me your

1182
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 3: general thoughts on the Patriots quarterback decision. Do you think

1183
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 3: they made the right decision going with Jacoby Brissett or

1184
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 3: were you kind of tantalized by what we saw from

1185
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 3: Drake May throughout the preseason and thought, hey, they should

1186
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 3: just throw him out there, because we usually don't see these,

1187
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 3: especially first round quarterbacks sit for that long in today's NFL.

1188
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, all the way the Patriots tell us what they're

1189
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 7: going to do, as far as that they're taking this

1190
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 7: guy May along very slowly, I didn't think I thought

1191
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 7: the foot work stuff was all kind of overblown because

1192
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 7: I thought that was extremely workable with a guy like

1193
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 7: May who's young, hasn't played an offense that was very

1194
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 7: you know, strived, you know, it was very detail oriented.

1195
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 7: It was very just loosey goosey, and he's athletic. You know,

1196
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 7: athletes can usually better, athletes can usually learn things a

1197
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 7: lot quicker. I've learned from experience as a poor athlete

1198
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 7: masquerading as a good one.

1199
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 1: But it's when I think that this was the fine.

1200
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 7: Decision, because they just want to make sure that that

1201
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 7: first couple of weeks when they're trying to gel this

1202
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 7: offensive line, they're more worried about the old line than anything.

1203
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 7: I think everybody knows this, and I think it's more

1204
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 7: that they don't want to have that first game, the

1205
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 7: first game they go against lou Ana Roumo, the defense

1206
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 7: coordinator for the Bengals. They don't want it to awesome

1207
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 7: be every third down is there's two guys unblocked and

1208
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 7: he can't even complete a third down pass, and that

1209
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 7: anytime they get behind the chains, Oh my god, it's

1210
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 7: just he's not pill we My counter argument to that

1211
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 7: is he's got He was used at in North Carolina

1212
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 7: and also in the preseason. He already showed that he

1213
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 7: can escape out of that either with his arm, his

1214
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 7: mindset because he's super aggressive, or his legs.

1215
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 1: So that's where at first.

1216
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 7: I was with them, where I was like, no, I

1217
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 7: get keeping them on the bench for at least a

1218
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 7: month until you guys figure out the old line. I

1219
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 7: trust that line, Coach Peters, he's a Bill Callahan guy.

1220
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 7: I trust that they'll figure it out. I also trust

1221
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 7: that May is more mentally advanced than people have given

1222
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 7: him credit for it. And they've kind of hinted at

1223
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 7: that and they said they still have to work on things.

1224
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 7: So this is a long winded way to say. If

1225
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 7: it was my money, yeah, I would have played May

1226
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 7: like I would have played him because I think these guys,

1227
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 7: he's a guy that would learn rapidly with reps, even

1228
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 7: if they aren't the best reps. He's going to learn

1229
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 7: rapidly because he's such a good athlete, and I think

1230
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 7: his mindset's right. But I'm not in that building. They

1231
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 7: might be terrified of that line even more than I am.

1232
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 7: I'm like, yeah, they can figure it out. I'm not

1233
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 7: in that building, So I get the concerns that they have.

1234
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 7: The Patriots are on their own time there. They are

1235
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 7: telling everyone we're doing this, how we want to do it.

1236
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 7: I respect that, even if I'm a little bit more

1237
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 7: like open up the present, like, come on, let's see it.

1238
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 7: Let's say, what do we got what do we got?

1239
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 7: So it's not my team though, so I understand their decision.

1240
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 2: Is there a little bit? Can you see the rationale

1241
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 2: that if you do start Drake may and it's here's

1242
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 2: the thing. When you start the season, no matter how

1243
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 2: bad your roster is or how it looks, you still

1244
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 2: got a shot as you get there. And if Drake

1245
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 2: made plays and he's not playing quite well enough and

1246
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 2: you start digging a hole that you'll never get out of,

1247
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 2: then it's like, well, we got to save the season.

1248
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 2: Then you have to make the change, and then you're stuck.

1249
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 2: Now you got to switch back at some point, right.

1250
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 7: So it's that's such a great point that the kind

1251
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 7: of card you could play, Oh, we're pinching Jacoby.

1252
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:45,959
Speaker 1: Now now we can put in Drake. If you played

1253
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 1: Drake right away, the die, there's no place to go.

1254
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 2: This is it, There's no place to go.

1255
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 7: It's a great point. It's it's a I mean, remember

1256
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 7: Josh's rookie year. They're running out Nathan Peterman. And even

1257
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 7: though I'm sure at practice, even if Josh, you know,

1258
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 7: at the time before he's kind of really refined his game,

1259
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 7: I'm sure he was doing some things. Everyone's like, oh

1260
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 7: my god, because that's why I heard in Kansas City

1261
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 7: it was that it took about two weeks and everyone's like, yeah,

1262
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 7: I think we hit on this Patrick Mahomes guy, all right,

1263
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 7: but let's stop playing him too much and get the

1264
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 7: secret out a little bit. So it's I'm sure it's

1265
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 7: pretty hard once you have that on hand and see

1266
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 7: it every day.

1267
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 2: One of the things that we want to ask you

1268
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 2: about as well. Down in Miami, they Mike McDaniel took

1269
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 2: over that team in twenty twenty two. They hadn't had

1270
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 2: a top ten offense since two thousand and one, and

1271
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 2: now you know, they're the top of the league offensively.

1272
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 2: They are going through their next defensive coordinator. But I

1273
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:41,919
Speaker 2: don't think there's any question Miami's doing the right thing

1274
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 2: in extending McDaniel, tying him up to to his contract,

1275
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 2: the whole thing. And it's a guy that really seems

1276
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 2: to have stayed steadied the ship in Miami and they

1277
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 2: signed him to a new deal through twenty twenty eight.

1278
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 7: I was they're reminding me a lot of Don Nelson,

1279
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 7: the old dashtball coach and his teams like the Warriors

1280
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 7: and stuff. Great regular season team. That's That's where I've

1281
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 7: got with the Dolphins is that this is he's so innovative.

1282
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 7: McDaniel's really in my respect when things have gone south,

1283
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 7: especially two years ago when they kind of got figured

1284
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 7: out a little bit, injuries happened and they got solved

1285
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 7: a little bit of some of their offense stuff. He

1286
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:23,720
Speaker 7: ran on the fly adjusted some things. Another team that

1287
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 7: went from like, oh, we're running RPOs to hey, receivers,

1288
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 7: you're blocking now because we're gonna help out our run game.

1289
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 7: I really respected that a lot, even if the results

1290
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 7: weren't always great, that he was willing to go, I'm

1291
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 7: this stuff. That was our one hundred two mount our fastball.

1292
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 7: Guess what defenses are jacketed over the fence now, so

1293
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 7: we got changed up start throwing some junk pitches.

1294
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 1: I that's hard to do.

1295
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 7: That's really hard when you're in the heat of things

1296
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 7: to go like, yeah, we're getting away from what works

1297
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 7: for us. So this is kind of a longer way

1298
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 7: to say, like, I think this is one of the

1299
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 7: top offensive minds. I'm not crazy and saying that with

1300
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 7: points and everything that you see, but even just innovations now,

1301
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:00,160
Speaker 7: I would say innovations, just new twists that he he's

1302
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 7: kind of using, especially.

1303
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 1: In the run game, or really really cool.

1304
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 7: And again another guy that's already hit that some stuff

1305
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 7: in the preseason that it's not over. It's not like

1306
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 7: he already used every trick in his bag. I'm he's

1307
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 7: one of these guys. Every week, I'm like, what you got?

1308
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,439
Speaker 1: What you got this week? Like what's the little twist

1309
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 1: that you're thrown out there this week?

1310
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 7: So, yeah, you pay those guys because you don't want

1311
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 7: There's only a few of those guys in the league

1312
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:25,439
Speaker 7: that are like this that are actually innovative as play

1313
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 7: caller and a play designer. So pay him even Yeah,

1314
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 7: And it seems like the players love him. I know

1315
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 7: the two of stuff with the Floria stuff that to me,

1316
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:34,439
Speaker 7: it should should have been a private matter.

1317
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 1: But I get what happens.

1318
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 7: But you can hear how all the players love McDaniel

1319
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 7: and they love playing for him. All right, So he's

1320
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 7: a great offensive mind. Has to figure out keeping a

1321
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 7: defensive coordinator more than one year, that would be one

1322
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 7: thing I want to figure out. I want to ask about.

1323
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 7: But players seem to love him. Coaches that I know

1324
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 7: of love working with him. I've worked with him years

1325
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 7: ago in Atlanta when we were both lowly assistants I

1326
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:01,320
Speaker 7: but not a lot. I was scouting, coaching, but just

1327
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 7: seeing all that these are the guys that you want

1328
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 7: to keep, even if you maybe go nine to seven

1329
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 7: or nine and eight or ten and seven, maybe don't

1330
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 7: make a playoff run. Okay, give him chances and bites

1331
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 7: at the apple to maybe figure this out. They've kind

1332
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 7: of pushed all in anyways, with all these trades and

1333
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 7: vets that they go after. But I don't know, he's

1334
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 7: one of the top offensive minds, and you don't let

1335
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 7: those guys go even if sometimes the results aren't perfect.

1336
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 3: Super quick follow there and you don't have to give

1337
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 3: a long answer here. Do you think there is any

1338
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 3: more pressure on Tua now that he got the contract

1339
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 3: or do you feel like, hey, he's got the contract.

1340
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:37,479
Speaker 3: Even if they losing the wildcard round and he doesn't

1341
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 3: play well, it's just going to be fine. Or do

1342
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 3: you still feel that there is a little bit of

1343
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 3: pressure on him to kind of prove that he can,

1344
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 3: you know, elevate his game to the rest of the

1345
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 3: elite quarterbacks in the NFL. Or I guess in the

1346
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 3: AFC and perform well in the postseason.

1347
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, when well, when you get paid, Yeah, it's your

1348
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 7: excuses get taken away. If you want me to get

1349
01:04:58,280 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 7: going on jail and hurts, I could do that as well,

1350
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 7: but it seems like we keep coming up excuses for

1351
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 7: some of his stuff. But to me as someone around

1352
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 7: the NFL, and I think that's a locker room thing too,

1353
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 7: where it's like, hey, everyone knows what how much you're making.

1354
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 7: So it's kind of a like, all right, if you

1355
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 7: have the playoff game against the Chiefs last year, is

1356
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 7: that what we're paying you for?

1357
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 4: You know that?

1358
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 1: And that is what the demons he has to exercise.

1359
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 7: And now it's been multiple games and multiple instances where

1360
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 7: that's what it looks like in cold weather or when

1361
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:31,400
Speaker 7: they face a hyper specific defense like they do late

1362
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 7: season or in the playoffs where they're like, hey, we're

1363
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 7: gonna take away your again fastballs and take this way,

1364
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 7: take this away, make you work for it. So once

1365
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:42,800
Speaker 7: you get paid, though, there's no excuses, there's no mean

1366
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 7: coach to blame.

1367
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 1: There's no like weather that you can blame on. Patrick

1368
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:50,120
Speaker 1: Mahomes then have issues with the weather. So that is

1369
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 1: to me is that.

1370
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, So again longer way, I'm very long winded to

1371
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 7: get to my short answer is that it is it's

1372
01:05:57,360 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 7: the pressures on him, I think more than the coach,

1373
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 7: because I think the coach has done plenty to and

1374
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 7: he got paid too to show that he can put

1375
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 7: up points even with injuries too.

1376
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 1: But when you are the quarterback and.

1377
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 7: The dude that's the most highest paid guy on the

1378
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 7: roster easily, yeah, like, you have to step up if

1379
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 7: others aren't stepping up. So that's the whole argument of

1380
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 7: win because of or win with and right now to

1381
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 7: is just win with your other things are driving it.

1382
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:26,600
Speaker 7: But again the math shifts when all of a sudden

1383
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 7: you add three extra zeros to your bank account.

1384
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly one.

1385
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 2: More got to ask you about before we go, And

1386
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 2: let's stick in the AFC East. The New York Jets,

1387
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 2: the one team that has consistently given Buffalo real problems

1388
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 2: even when the Bills are playing well. The Jets have

1389
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 2: an incredibly good roster. They do have a forty year

1390
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 2: old quarterback coming off in Achilles, who needs to take

1391
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 2: what Nate a thousand snaps this year at quarterback to

1392
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 2: get through the season. Get him to the play right.

1393
01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 2: So what is let's talk about Aaron Rodgers and the Jets.

1394
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:02,640
Speaker 1: Gladly they it's.

1395
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:08,440
Speaker 7: I've really struggled how to picture of the offense because

1396
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 7: it's what do I want to bet on that they're

1397
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 7: all going to be healthy, They're all going to play

1398
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 7: sixteen or more games.

1399
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 1: I know it's seventeen, but just even sixteen.

1400
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 7: Or more or that one or multiple of these guys,

1401
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 7: especially the new faces, are going to get hurt at

1402
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:24,360
Speaker 7: some point this year now ely just Aaron Rodgers, who's

1403
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:26,760
Speaker 7: again a forty year old's coming off an Achilles, and

1404
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:30,920
Speaker 7: Achilles is the worst, like knees are. You know, acls

1405
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 7: and MCLs and everything are definitely a long recovery. But

1406
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:36,360
Speaker 7: now it's turned into nine months. You can maybe be

1407
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 7: running a year. You're ninety percent in about sixteen months, Okay,

1408
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 7: now you're about one hundred percent eighteen months. And an Achilles,

1409
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 7: more to me, is a two year injury where it's

1410
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:48,880
Speaker 7: a year that you're pretty sapped of it of your explosiveness.

1411
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:51,120
Speaker 7: Not that Rogers is going to ever thrive as like

1412
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 7: Lamar Jackson, but you know he moves in the pocket,

1413
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 7: he scrambles on those third downs. Now he's forty, just

1414
01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 7: another year and Achilles is you also can't do other things,

1415
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 7: can't booke up as much, you know, so maybe wait

1416
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:04,840
Speaker 7: things are part of it. But then moving off of Rogers,

1417
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 7: I mean Tyron Smith played was healthy for most of

1418
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:10,800
Speaker 7: last year, which is like, that's the exception not the rule.

1419
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 7: What Tyron Smith and he's another year older, And you

1420
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 7: never know. When guys switch medical staffs, that could be

1421
01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:20,800
Speaker 7: bad because it just switches everything with how they do things.

1422
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 1: Having said that, now you get to.

1423
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 7: Mike Williams who leaves Chargers medical staffs. So maybe that's

1424
01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:27,960
Speaker 7: a good thing that he's leaving there.

1425
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 1: So that's the thing.

1426
01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:32,920
Speaker 7: But he's been hurt every single year of his career,

1427
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:36,759
Speaker 7: has been hurt in college. What Elijah vera Tucker Probol

1428
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 7: caliber talent at guard, has been hurt every year as

1429
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:42,920
Speaker 7: a pro. What am I betting on if I was

1430
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 7: a neutral person that they're all going to stay healthy

1431
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 7: or are they all going to get hurt? I would

1432
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 7: bet that that one, two or three of those guys

1433
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:52,799
Speaker 7: get hurt and misses two or more games. That scares

1434
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:54,719
Speaker 7: me because then you dip into depth.

1435
01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 1: Although Shanu. I think it's gonna be very good player.

1436
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:57,800
Speaker 1: That helps a little bit.

1437
01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 7: But Rogers, we're gonna Tyrod Taylor, Mike Williams, We're going

1438
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 7: Allen Lazard for fifty steps the game again, Like that's

1439
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:06,639
Speaker 7: you know, he's only there because being Rogers's buddy, he's

1440
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 7: more of a like a receiver four or five blocking guy.

1441
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 7: He sets picks and then and so that for me

1442
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 7: is that I don't know how to encapsulate that. It's like,

1443
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:16,800
Speaker 7: if this all goes healthy, he goes right. This could

1444
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 7: be a borderline top six offense, top five offense, like

1445
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 7: because I trust the run game. I like Garrett Wilson

1446
01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:24,880
Speaker 7: a lot. Like they've brailing out and behind Breese Hall.

1447
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:26,559
Speaker 7: Like they even backed up the running back spot. Now

1448
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 7: I really like that, but just can't I want to

1449
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 7: be realistic. It's a heart and the head kind of

1450
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 7: thing with the Jets offense. On defense, they're gonna be good,

1451
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 7: very good. The I think the defensive line, their pass

1452
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:40,639
Speaker 7: rush lost a little bit of teeth. Just the depth

1453
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 7: what made the Jets pass rush so scary why they

1454
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:45,559
Speaker 7: kept getting after the bills. They didn't have to blitz

1455
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:49,559
Speaker 7: and they could just rotate all these demons at defensive

1456
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 7: line and one after another, and now they lose a

1457
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:54,880
Speaker 7: couple of those guys. Yes, Jermaine Johnson steps up, but

1458
01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:57,760
Speaker 7: Jermaine Johnson on twenty five thirty steps is different than

1459
01:09:57,840 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 7: Jermaine Johnson on fifty STAPs.

1460
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:01,720
Speaker 1: You know, you got the guys.

1461
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:05,280
Speaker 7: Will McDonald, it's okay. He's different than the other guys

1462
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:07,320
Speaker 7: that they had backing up. What's his name hasn't even

1463
01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:10,719
Speaker 7: showed up, Hasan Reddick. He's gonna can find five million

1464
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:12,559
Speaker 7: dollars by the end of this. So what it's all

1465
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 7: said and done, you know, losing Breece Hall or Bryce Huff,

1466
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 7: Breece Huff, Bryce Houff, Breece Hall, Bryce Huff, losing Bryce Huff.

1467
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 7: He was a valuable role player for them. So it's

1468
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 7: just it's gonna be a good, very good defense because

1469
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:30,040
Speaker 7: the back ends amazing. I like their linebackers. They still

1470
01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 7: have Quinn Williams and Quincy Williams. So it's like they're

1471
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:36,280
Speaker 7: still gonna be good, very good. But just that half

1472
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 7: step back to maybe top seven to eight defense as

1473
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 7: opposed to top two amazing.

1474
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:44,759
Speaker 1: You can't and move the ball. We're gonna defeat C. J. Stroud,

1475
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:45,759
Speaker 1: like just all that stuff.

1476
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 7: So it's hard for me to picture them like I

1477
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 7: just I can, But I also just want to be

1478
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 7: realistic that I think defense takes a half step back,

1479
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:55,439
Speaker 7: offense could be up and down because of the injuries.

1480
01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 2: NFL Rider for Yahoo, also the host of the three

1481
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:01,639
Speaker 2: oh one Pot Football three oh one podcast. Nate Ties,

1482
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 2: thanks for joining us and congratulations on being an NFL

1483
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 2: Network analyst for this season. Appreciate it, Thanks for coming on.

1484
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 1: Thanks date, Thanks for having me. That was a lot

1485
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 1: of fun.

1486
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:15,600
Speaker 2: That was Nate Tyson. Good stuff from him. He's he

1487
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:17,639
Speaker 2: kind of has the same I think it's good stuff

1488
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:19,040
Speaker 2: from him because he agrees with what a lot of

1489
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:20,840
Speaker 2: what I say, or I agree with him whatever. You know,

1490
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:22,640
Speaker 2: it's one of those things bad radio, when we all

1491
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:25,800
Speaker 2: agree on the same thing, right, no disagreement. But he

1492
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 2: sees the Jets like I do. I think in Week

1493
01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 2: one they're gonna be awesome. I mean, they could go

1494
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:34,240
Speaker 2: to San Francisco or as I think they go to

1495
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:36,519
Speaker 2: San Francisco where the Jets open, but they're gonna go

1496
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:38,599
Speaker 2: out there and they're gonna play well wherever they play.

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Speaker 2: And I'll tell you who the Jets playing in a minute.

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01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:48,400
Speaker 2: But that's they're good. But I mean, you know, here

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01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:50,680
Speaker 2: you go, they're going to the forty nine ers. They

1500
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 2: could go to forty San Francisco September ninth and win.

1501
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 2: They're that good. The roster is that deep, right, so

1502
01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:02,479
Speaker 2: we'll see. And then same thing in Miami. Who is

1503
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 2: a guy you can win with but not because of

1504
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:06,720
Speaker 2: Josh is a guy Josh Allen. Course he's a guy

1505
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 2: you can win because he's on the team. There's a

1506
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:15,760
Speaker 2: difference there. Yeah, this this division. The thing that makes

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01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 2: it difficult is Buffalo's schedule. The Bills have got, you know,

1508
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:26,600
Speaker 2: a tough one. So you know they they got Jacksonville

1509
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 2: and Baltimore and Houston, the Jets, Chiefs, Niners, Rams, Lions. Okay,

1510
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 2: so that's it's it's it's a first place schedule. Even

1511
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:41,400
Speaker 2: if the Bills stay healthy, there's gonna be some teams

1512
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:44,760
Speaker 2: that can hang in there with them physically, and you're

1513
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:46,760
Speaker 2: gonna have to you have to beat them with, you know,

1514
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:47,799
Speaker 2: just by making plays.

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01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:53,160
Speaker 3: I think more about the Jets is beyond thinking that

1516
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 3: they could go to San Francisco and win Week one,

1517
01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:58,720
Speaker 3: when in Tennessee Week two, they're flying high to and zho.

1518
01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:01,960
Speaker 3: It's after Halloween, it's after their bye week where they

1519
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:04,760
Speaker 3: play the Rams, they play the Bills. They have some

1520
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:07,960
Speaker 3: tougher opponents down the stretch, And what does the state

1521
01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:11,120
Speaker 3: of their health of the roster look like at that point?

1522
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 3: Even if you want to say, all right, look, Aaron Rodgers,

1523
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:18,799
Speaker 3: he tore the achilles on the fourth snap last season.

1524
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:21,400
Speaker 3: He's had almost a full year now to recover. He's

1525
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:24,439
Speaker 3: a great athlete. Blah blah blah. What Nate brought up

1526
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:29,559
Speaker 3: to pinpoint Tyrone Smith and Elijah Vera Tucker and Mike Williams,

1527
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 3: And there's a lot of pieces. Even Breze Hall, who

1528
01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 3: was awesome last year, was coming off of torn acl

1529
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:38,680
Speaker 3: So they have a lot of pieces. Where do you

1530
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:41,400
Speaker 3: still love the Jets roster if you take away Tyron Smith,

1531
01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:44,400
Speaker 3: and you take away Mike Williams and for five or

1532
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:48,000
Speaker 3: six games, at four to eight games, somewhere in that realm,

1533
01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:51,439
Speaker 3: certainly Aaron Rodgers this season gets totally exploded like it

1534
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:55,519
Speaker 3: was last year. That I think how Nate described it

1535
01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:57,760
Speaker 3: as it's very hard to believe that all of these

1536
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:02,320
Speaker 3: formerly injured players that have had that injury bug problem

1537
01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 3: their entire careers. It's hard to believe that they will

1538
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:08,479
Speaker 3: all stay healthy to be this juggernaut of a team

1539
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:11,440
Speaker 3: that they look like on paper before any injuries.

1540
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 2: Have set in right now, and he's got to wait

1541
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:17,080
Speaker 2: and see. But I've harped on it and said it

1542
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:19,760
Speaker 2: a thousand times. A thousand snaps for quarterbacks, a lot

1543
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 2: of snaps, and Aaron Rodgers is forty coming off an achilles,

1544
01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:24,760
Speaker 2: So it's a big ask for sure. It's a big act.

1545
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:26,400
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying his achilles is gonna pop again.

1546
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:29,200
Speaker 2: It could be anything. He's gonna have to play the

1547
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:32,240
Speaker 2: game with his new normal body, with his achilles that's

1548
01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:35,400
Speaker 2: been repaired, and now he hasn't taken snaps in two

1549
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:38,760
Speaker 2: full years. It's a big ask.

1550
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:40,960
Speaker 3: I think it's a big ask for any quarterback. I mean,

1551
01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:43,640
Speaker 3: think about last year, how many down the stretch the

1552
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:46,639
Speaker 3: AFC playoff chase that the Bills were involved in. Ultimately

1553
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:49,280
Speaker 3: obviously won the AFC East, but you had Jake Browning

1554
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:52,639
Speaker 3: and Easton Stick and so many other quarterbacks where Justin

1555
01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 3: Herbert went down and Joe Burrow went down, so many

1556
01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:58,760
Speaker 3: other quarterbacks even in the NFC where Kirk Cousins went down.

1557
01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:01,559
Speaker 3: So for just a quarterback that's young, that's not coming

1558
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:04,439
Speaker 3: off inn Achilles, one thousand snaps and seventeen starts is

1559
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:07,519
Speaker 3: a tough ask. For a forty to forty one year

1560
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:10,799
Speaker 3: old coming off in Achilles is a monumental ask, I think.

1561
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:14,240
Speaker 2: So, Steve Tasker, along with Christapaso, we're sitting here at

1562
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:17,320
Speaker 2: One Bill's Drive and talking about all this stuff we've got.

1563
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:19,880
Speaker 2: It's in a Friday mail bag. So we've gotten a

1564
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 2: lot of questions from you, the listeners and viewers. We've

1565
01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:24,080
Speaker 2: taken a bunch of calls. We're gonna get to more

1566
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:26,720
Speaker 2: of those on the tweet sheet when we come back.

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Speaker 2: Right after this, you're listening to Buffalo Bill's Radio and

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01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:29,800
Speaker 2: this is.

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01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:30,439
Speaker 3: One Bill's Live.

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01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:31,120
Speaker 1: We'll be right back.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to One Bill's Live. Steve task for Christo

1572
01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:45,560
Speaker 2: appasso In. We're gonna do this show. We'll finish the

1573
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:47,920
Speaker 2: show today and then we'll be off on Labor Day.

1574
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:49,720
Speaker 2: We'll be back on Tuesday, and then think about it.

1575
01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:52,280
Speaker 2: The next time you'll hear from One Bill's Live. It's

1576
01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:54,880
Speaker 2: gonna be two days before the season opening game between

1577
01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:58,879
Speaker 2: the Baltimore Ravens at the Kansas City Chiefs. The season

1578
01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:02,679
Speaker 2: is upon a so this is our final Friday fan

1579
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 2: mail bag before the regular season gets underway, and then

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01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:08,840
Speaker 2: we've got We'll start it off with this one. The

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Speaker 2: by the way, the tweet sheet presented by Corgan Moving Systems,

1582
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:16,679
Speaker 2: the official equipment moving systems of the Buffalo Bills. From

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01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:19,360
Speaker 2: ed he says, what's an overall grade you'd give Brandon

1584
01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:21,920
Speaker 2: Bean for his off season efforts with the draft, free agency,

1585
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:24,800
Speaker 2: managing the cap and roster construction. I'll say this, I

1586
01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:27,040
Speaker 2: was reading this before we came on, you know, just

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01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:28,439
Speaker 2: a minute ago, and I was like, Wow, what kind

1588
01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:30,479
Speaker 2: of great? I don't know, because here's the thing. I

1589
01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:35,040
Speaker 2: there's no guarantees. And I've always said it all these teams,

1590
01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:37,880
Speaker 2: the Bills used to do the right thing for the

1591
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:41,160
Speaker 2: right reasons, and you still get your head handed to

1592
01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:44,560
Speaker 2: you on game day, right, So I will say this,

1593
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 2: I was way surprised, and I gotta say I was

1594
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:53,400
Speaker 2: pleased when they made the tough personnel decisions they did

1595
01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:56,679
Speaker 2: at the beginning of the off season to hide employer

1596
01:16:56,760 --> 01:17:00,120
Speaker 2: Mitch Trubisky Tredevious White. They got it with me that

1597
01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:04,960
Speaker 2: Mitch Morris. With all of that stuff happening, they alleviated

1598
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:07,559
Speaker 2: any cap issues they had throughout most of the off season.

1599
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 2: Now still they're still up against it and all that

1600
01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:10,680
Speaker 2: because of all the stuff they had to do. But

1601
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:13,760
Speaker 2: man oh man, they got out of trouble quick. And

1602
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:21,680
Speaker 2: when they started trying to replace those guys, obviously they

1603
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:25,439
Speaker 2: got younger, they got more athletic, and I think they

1604
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:30,920
Speaker 2: got a little bit hungrier, and I thought, well, gosh,

1605
01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:33,080
Speaker 2: now they're really and I thought, well, gosh, they were

1606
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 2: really going to coaches against some new faces. But you

1607
01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:40,600
Speaker 2: know what, that is exactly the kind of situation that

1608
01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:46,040
Speaker 2: is Sean McDermott's wheelhouse and fixing. Yes, so I think

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01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:48,560
Speaker 2: they had I think Brandon Bean has played to the

1610
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:52,559
Speaker 2: strength of his head coach at a moment in history

1611
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:56,120
Speaker 2: when it was perfect, at the perfect time to do it.

1612
01:17:57,640 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 2: Results have no idea how it's going to turn out.

1613
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:00,200
Speaker 4: Uh.

1614
01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:03,759
Speaker 2: I have liked what I've seen from the new faces.

1615
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:10,760
Speaker 2: They are not as deep with proven depth as they

1616
01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:15,320
Speaker 2: have been in years past, but I love where they're

1617
01:18:15,320 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 2: at with this roster. I love how they've handled it.

1618
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:22,040
Speaker 2: That's I give him a grade. I don't know, but

1619
01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:26,880
Speaker 2: I've loved the moves they've made, starting with the very

1620
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:28,920
Speaker 2: beginning when they had to make the tough decisions say

1621
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:30,360
Speaker 2: goodbye to some guys that they really love.

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01:18:30,479 --> 01:18:33,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll echo all of that and be super quick.

1623
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:36,120
Speaker 3: I'll give it a grade between B plus and as.

1624
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:38,120
Speaker 3: I would have liked to see maybe a little bit

1625
01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:40,559
Speaker 3: more at receiver. I mean they tried MBS gets hurt,

1626
01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:43,439
Speaker 3: Chase Claypoole gets hurt in training camp. I wasn't the

1627
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:46,120
Speaker 3: biggest key on Coleman fan just as a draft prospect.

1628
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:49,439
Speaker 3: Besides that, though, everything that you mentioned with the cap

1629
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:52,839
Speaker 3: to get a second round pick for an exiting Stefon

1630
01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:55,360
Speaker 3: Diggs well into his thirties, coming off the worst stretch

1631
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:58,040
Speaker 3: of his career, and then you know that money is

1632
01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:00,559
Speaker 3: off the cap next year. I thought that was amazing

1633
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:04,400
Speaker 3: GMing from Brandon Bean and right in my wheelhouse, I

1634
01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:07,760
Speaker 3: think to make all ten draft selections, we thought, oh,

1635
01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:09,479
Speaker 3: he's gonna wheel and deal. He's going to only make

1636
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:13,799
Speaker 3: four or five picks. With Daikwon Hardy, with Javon Solomon

1637
01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:15,519
Speaker 3: playing well, Ray Davis is going to be part of

1638
01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:17,640
Speaker 3: this offense. We still haven't seen Cole Bishop really and

1639
01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:20,559
Speaker 3: I think he's going to be a really quality player

1640
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:21,920
Speaker 3: that can do a lot of the same things that

1641
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:25,839
Speaker 3: Jordan Poyer did for this offense. I think the draft

1642
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:28,439
Speaker 3: and the salary cap management and then still doing the

1643
01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:33,040
Speaker 3: bargain bin shopping, which has really been a marquee of

1644
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:35,280
Speaker 3: what Brandon Bean is on a trademark. I think he's

1645
01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:38,160
Speaker 3: had another really good offseason and a very important one,

1646
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:39,679
Speaker 3: kind of turning to a new chapter.

1647
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 2: This year right now. And I would agree with that.

1648
01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:46,120
Speaker 2: I'm I'm so many things we don't know, but as

1649
01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:49,920
Speaker 2: it stands right now, depend you know, like you you

1650
01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:52,679
Speaker 2: weren't as high on keyon Coleman, and you know that's

1651
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:55,400
Speaker 2: that's kind of all of us, right sar. But he

1652
01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:57,519
Speaker 2: got the guys. I think I think he got exactly

1653
01:19:57,600 --> 01:20:01,720
Speaker 2: the guy he wanted. And barring the fact that he

1654
01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:05,519
Speaker 2: could move up, the fact that eight of the ten

1655
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:09,480
Speaker 2: draft picks made the club, they outright fifty three impressive.

1656
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:12,320
Speaker 2: It's pretty impressive, but it is a nod to how

1657
01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 2: young they're gonna get.

1658
01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:13,639
Speaker 1: Anyway.

1659
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:15,240
Speaker 3: One final point that I want to make on this

1660
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:18,439
Speaker 3: on this question from ed on our tweets sheet is

1661
01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:22,040
Speaker 3: I'm really fascinated to watch from kind of a far

1662
01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:25,920
Speaker 3: like a general perspective on how this Bills team, especially

1663
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:31,920
Speaker 3: on defense, looks with this time tested Sean McDermott scheme

1664
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:34,639
Speaker 3: that has been so sound they repeatedly at top ten

1665
01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:37,880
Speaker 3: to a top five defense with an infusion of youth,

1666
01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:42,400
Speaker 3: explosion athleticism. It felt like the last few years, especially

1667
01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:45,479
Speaker 3: last year with Micah Hyde and Jordan Poyer, who were

1668
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:47,400
Speaker 3: always in the right spot but were like a step

1669
01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:50,759
Speaker 3: or two slow. I want to see what that awesome

1670
01:20:50,920 --> 01:20:54,360
Speaker 3: scheme and obviously Bobby Babbage calling the plays that's worked

1671
01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:56,559
Speaker 3: with the safeties and the linebackers. I want to see

1672
01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:58,719
Speaker 3: what it looks like with a bunch of young, hungry

1673
01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:02,360
Speaker 3: and athletic clay within this scheme because we haven't really

1674
01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:04,120
Speaker 3: seen that in Buffalo the last couple of seasons.

1675
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 2: Right, And it's and it's it is going to be interesting.

1676
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:12,080
Speaker 2: And I think I said I've said this, and not

1677
01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:15,000
Speaker 2: for nothing, but I've said that this may be a

1678
01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:16,920
Speaker 2: team where's gonna have to be carried by the offense

1679
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:18,479
Speaker 2: for the first month of the season while the defense

1680
01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:22,240
Speaker 2: gets it together. I do think, particularly since Josh is

1681
01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 2: going into his seventh year, he's like everything, Yes, and

1682
01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:30,120
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna be able to just with the

1683
01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:32,240
Speaker 2: with the skill sets that I've seen and the guy

1684
01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:34,360
Speaker 2: things we know about this is gonna be a really

1685
01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:38,000
Speaker 2: hard offense to get off the field on third down.

1686
01:21:38,040 --> 01:21:39,479
Speaker 2: They're gonna be able to run it when they want.

1687
01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:41,519
Speaker 2: They're gonna be able to throw it obviously when they want.

1688
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:43,960
Speaker 2: They've got a bunch of guys that catch it no

1689
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:47,280
Speaker 2: matter where you throw it. I just think they're gonna

1690
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 2: be really efficient. In years past, they've been the best

1691
01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:53,720
Speaker 2: team in the league on third down conversions and they've

1692
01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:55,759
Speaker 2: gotten more first downs than any team in the league.

1693
01:21:56,840 --> 01:21:58,599
Speaker 3: And Josh has been amazing at third and long.

1694
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:01,720
Speaker 2: So I think this is going to be one of

1695
01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:06,320
Speaker 2: those teams the teams teams get up get a third downstop,

1696
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:07,880
Speaker 2: will you please? And you're not not going to be

1697
01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:10,639
Speaker 2: able to with a running with a running game. Where

1698
01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:13,680
Speaker 2: it is. You know, Nate Tye said it in the

1699
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:15,760
Speaker 2: last segment, he goes this, the five yards is great

1700
01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:19,160
Speaker 2: for them. Think about it, second and five, third and

1701
01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:22,280
Speaker 2: two all day. Yeah, you know they'll take it all day.

1702
01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:26,120
Speaker 2: So I think that's I think that's really where they're headed.

1703
01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:29,479
Speaker 2: May it may or may not be efficient and all that,

1704
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:31,519
Speaker 2: because you know they're gonna all these teams are going

1705
01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:35,840
Speaker 2: to have to defend Josh all over the field, whether

1706
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:40,200
Speaker 2: because he can make that throw. So I'm really interested

1707
01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:43,320
Speaker 2: to see how the personality this offense comes. We've got

1708
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:44,920
Speaker 2: a chance here, let's take it. We've got a call

1709
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 2: here from Scott in Williamsville. Scott, you're on with Steve

1710
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:50,599
Speaker 2: and Chris. Thanks for given us a call.

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01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:54,160
Speaker 8: What's on your mind? O, Good afternoon, gentlemen. I appreciate it.

1712
01:22:55,720 --> 01:22:58,840
Speaker 8: I just wanted to say, have a comment and then, uh, Steve,

1713
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:00,800
Speaker 8: I have a couple of questions. Is real quick, So

1714
01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:05,000
Speaker 8: I wish I could share your optimism. I don't think

1715
01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:11,559
Speaker 8: you know, I think we had great players, and still

1716
01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:16,280
Speaker 8: we only had a few wild card wins against rookie

1717
01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:20,360
Speaker 8: and third string quarterbacks. I think we're going to feel

1718
01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:24,040
Speaker 8: without Leonard Floyd's ten and a half sex and what

1719
01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:27,479
Speaker 8: he did for the other side, and at Oliver. I

1720
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:31,519
Speaker 8: think the safety and security of Poyer and Hide helped

1721
01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:37,080
Speaker 8: the corners. I just don't think you can lose seven starters,

1722
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:41,679
Speaker 8: captains and pro bowlers. And then on the other side,

1723
01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:46,040
Speaker 8: Mitch anchoring things and gave to a certain extent and

1724
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:50,800
Speaker 8: certainly digs cleaning things out for Kincaid and knocks. I

1725
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:55,599
Speaker 8: just don't see it. Unfortunately, I don't like the direction.

1726
01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:58,559
Speaker 8: I think it's a perfect storm that we lose those

1727
01:23:58,640 --> 01:24:03,800
Speaker 8: guys if you look back at our drafts, the guys

1728
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:07,080
Speaker 8: that should be maybe coming into their prime time. If

1729
01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:10,160
Speaker 8: you look less four or five years, we had a

1730
01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:12,640
Speaker 8: lot of first, second, and third rounders who are no

1731
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:16,120
Speaker 8: longer on our team. We're up against the cap, and

1732
01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:21,439
Speaker 8: when we even needed a receiver two years ago, now

1733
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:25,160
Speaker 8: we don't have any. And in my opinion, I don't

1734
01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:30,400
Speaker 8: think and I just think it's rough. And then Steve,

1735
01:24:30,479 --> 01:24:33,160
Speaker 8: I just you know, as crazy as this sounds, let

1736
01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:38,320
Speaker 8: me ask you a question. What, besides winning Super Bowls,

1737
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:44,920
Speaker 8: what do Russell Wilson, Joe Montana, Brett Fire, Peyton Manning,

1738
01:24:45,560 --> 01:24:48,160
Speaker 8: Tom Brady, and Aaron Rodgers all have in common?

1739
01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:50,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't you tell me.

1740
01:24:52,360 --> 01:24:58,080
Speaker 8: They're no longer on their teams. I really fear eighteen

1741
01:24:58,120 --> 01:25:01,680
Speaker 8: months from now, Josh is entering his ninth season. I

1742
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:05,160
Speaker 8: don't I see us going eight to nine this year,

1743
01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:08,519
Speaker 8: and I just think he's not going to be a

1744
01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:12,599
Speaker 8: happy camper, Or is Pat Collins when you're throwing seven

1745
01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:16,760
Speaker 8: six yard crossing patterns, and you know, especially, I think

1746
01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:21,120
Speaker 8: linebackers are going to start jumping those routes. Corners are

1747
01:25:21,160 --> 01:25:22,720
Speaker 8: going to inch off because I don't think we have

1748
01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:26,479
Speaker 8: the receivers. But I hope he finished his career here,

1749
01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:29,880
Speaker 8: but I don't think he will. So that's all I had.

1750
01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:33,400
Speaker 2: That's right, Thanks, got all right, that's gotcha. There's a

1751
01:25:33,439 --> 01:25:35,400
Speaker 2: guy that's not looking forward to the starting He's not.

1752
01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:40,200
Speaker 2: I get it. Change is hard, Scott, And for all

1753
01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:41,920
Speaker 2: of you out there who kind of agree with Scott

1754
01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:44,519
Speaker 2: and who are who have some trepidation about the upcoming season,

1755
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:47,479
Speaker 2: change is hard. But don't think that the guys at

1756
01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 2: the Bills had playing on their team last year, as

1757
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:52,840
Speaker 2: good as they were, as much as we loved him,

1758
01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:56,320
Speaker 2: Tredavious White, Mitch Morris, pour your hide. As much as

1759
01:25:56,400 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 2: we love those guys, don't think they're the only guy

1760
01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:04,519
Speaker 2: who could help the Bills win. They're not. The league

1761
01:26:04,600 --> 01:26:06,160
Speaker 2: is full of guys like that, and there are new

1762
01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:08,840
Speaker 2: guys coming in all the time, and we have a

1763
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:12,479
Speaker 2: really good general manager and a really good set of

1764
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:15,720
Speaker 2: protocols for scouts finding the kind of guys that will

1765
01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:19,080
Speaker 2: help the Bills win, just like those guys did. Those

1766
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:22,000
Speaker 2: are still in place, and they went out and got

1767
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:24,680
Speaker 2: guys who have played in the league, both played in

1768
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:27,519
Speaker 2: the league, and who have been had great college careers

1769
01:26:28,240 --> 01:26:33,800
Speaker 2: to come in and replace the players who are now gone.

1770
01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:35,760
Speaker 2: And think about this. You talk about guys who you

1771
01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:39,320
Speaker 2: don't lose. All those guys that listen, Tredaevius White didn't

1772
01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:42,599
Speaker 2: play in thirty games of his last fifty two here

1773
01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:43,200
Speaker 2: in Buffalo.

1774
01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:46,439
Speaker 6: He didn't play in thirty of them. Micah Hyde was

1775
01:26:46,520 --> 01:26:50,200
Speaker 6: out in week two of last two two years ago

1776
01:26:50,720 --> 01:26:54,479
Speaker 6: and didn't play the entire season. Poyer was out, So

1777
01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:58,360
Speaker 6: those guys weren't in the mix much at all over

1778
01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:03,920
Speaker 6: the course of those seasons because of injury. Anyway, Mitch Morris,

1779
01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:07,559
Speaker 6: you're trading it out. I like Mitch as well as anybody.

1780
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:11,400
Speaker 6: He's thirty thirty one years old at the time now,

1781
01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:15,000
Speaker 6: and you've got now a twenty seven year old taking

1782
01:27:15,080 --> 01:27:18,320
Speaker 6: that over a guy who is bigger than Mitch, was,

1783
01:27:18,680 --> 01:27:21,519
Speaker 6: more physical, and who has played center at a high

1784
01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:24,720
Speaker 6: level in this league and also in college. And you're

1785
01:27:24,760 --> 01:27:27,240
Speaker 6: moving a guy who has started in a Super Bowl

1786
01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:32,120
Speaker 6: at guard into that spot where McGovern moved from. You've

1787
01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:34,280
Speaker 6: got a guy who won the Super Bowl as a

1788
01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:37,559
Speaker 6: safe starting safety for the Kansas City Chiefs last year.

1789
01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:40,960
Speaker 2: Like eight months ago, and the Buccaneers anyone with the

1790
01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:41,800
Speaker 2: Buccaneers as well.

1791
01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:43,800
Speaker 3: He is now taking one of the spots for Poyer

1792
01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:45,519
Speaker 3: and Hide Younger, more athletic.

1793
01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:50,920
Speaker 2: So you know, I get it, they're new, we don't

1794
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:54,400
Speaker 2: know them as well, but don't think that just because

1795
01:27:55,400 --> 01:28:00,519
Speaker 2: that's the case that they can't play. We'll see. Obviously

1796
01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:04,960
Speaker 2: there are some changes, but like I told Chris Brandon,

1797
01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:07,360
Speaker 2: Bean played right into the wheelhouse of what the head

1798
01:28:07,439 --> 01:28:10,559
Speaker 2: coach of the Buffalo Bills does best, and that's put

1799
01:28:10,600 --> 01:28:13,160
Speaker 2: it together and figure it out defensively with new guys

1800
01:28:13,439 --> 01:28:15,400
Speaker 2: and Brick get the best out of a roster. I

1801
01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:18,200
Speaker 2: know we've had calls this week about Sean mcdermot's never

1802
01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:20,880
Speaker 2: gonna be the guy. He's not the guy. I don't

1803
01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:22,760
Speaker 2: know if I believe we gotta go, we gotta take

1804
01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:24,439
Speaker 2: a break, we're gonna come back, or we're not gonna

1805
01:28:24,439 --> 01:28:25,560
Speaker 2: have time at the end of the show to to

1806
01:28:25,640 --> 01:28:27,200
Speaker 2: even say goodbye. So we're gonna take a break and

1807
01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:28,880
Speaker 2: come right back and wrap things up here on One

1808
01:28:28,960 --> 01:28:43,720
Speaker 2: Bill's Live. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back. To

1809
01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:46,559
Speaker 2: wrap things up from One Bill's Live here on a Friday,

1810
01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:49,439
Speaker 2: we'll take one last crack at the tweets sheet from

1811
01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:51,840
Speaker 2: Connorey asked two questions. First time offense takes a field

1812
01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:53,920
Speaker 2: against the Cardinals, and this is what we're getting into.

1813
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:56,760
Speaker 2: Who's on the field. What personnel package would you prefer

1814
01:28:56,840 --> 01:28:59,320
Speaker 2: to see? Second part? Is it a run player or

1815
01:28:59,320 --> 01:29:02,360
Speaker 2: pass play? My prediction is a pass play to Kincaid.

1816
01:29:02,439 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 2: Go Bills. We're there, folks, we are there.

1817
01:29:05,080 --> 01:29:07,559
Speaker 3: We made it. It seemed like it was forever.

1818
01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:10,120
Speaker 2: We're there. We're getting those questions, so that's kind of it.

1819
01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:12,280
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know who's gonna catch the

1820
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:12,800
Speaker 2: first play.

1821
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:16,360
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say a eight yard completion to Dalton Kincaid

1822
01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:17,080
Speaker 3: on the first play.

1823
01:29:17,320 --> 01:29:20,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe maybe we listen. We're gonna take off for

1824
01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:22,200
Speaker 2: the Labor Day weekend. I hope everybody has a safe,

1825
01:29:22,479 --> 01:29:25,960
Speaker 2: happy holiday weekend. We'll see you on Tuesday after Labor Day.

1826
01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:29,280
Speaker 2: It's been a great off season. We are glad it's done.

1827
01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:32,040
Speaker 2: And Chris, you're gonna be here in town for the Arizona.

1828
01:29:31,720 --> 01:29:33,880
Speaker 3: Opener, Yes, I will be I'll be at the game, all.

1829
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:35,560
Speaker 2: Right, so will I, and I hope all of you

1830
01:29:35,640 --> 01:29:38,320
Speaker 2: will too. We'll be back on Tuesday. Everybody, Happy Labor

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01:29:38,400 --> 01:29:39,639
Speaker 2: Day weekend. Talk to you later