1 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:15,159 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of I Saw What 2 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,240 Speaker 1: You Did. My name is Millie to Jericho. I'm Daniel Henderson, 3 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: and we are here with you, chilling, just straight chillin'. 4 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 2: How how are you doing this week? 5 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: I'm okay, sounds dubious. No, no, no, Actually I'm fine. 6 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: Actually I'm relieved. So you know, a while, like a 7 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: while ago, you know, I move, I moved back to Atlanta, right, 8 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: and for a long time I was kind of heaven 9 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: and hawn about having to get new doctors. I'll just 10 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: say this, you hit a certain point, I think, age wise, 11 00:00:55,920 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: if you're lucky, if you're lucky, where you just all 12 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: of a sudden, doctors mean everything and they mean everything too, 13 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: and it's like, if you have a good doctor, you 14 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: have to hold on tight and never let go. And 15 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: your whole life revolves around like making sure that you've 16 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: got like the right person for each of the areas 17 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: of your life, like you know, dentists, doctor or whoever, 18 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: like a dermatologist, a gynecologist. So I'm like, I don't know, 19 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: I had a lot of anxiety about finding a new 20 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: doctor because I had all that drama happen to me 21 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: in La and I, because I had no choice, got 22 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: hooked up with all this entire system of doctors in 23 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: LA and they basically saved my life. And they, you know, 24 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: I had just been seeing them ever since and you know, 25 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: getting my MRIs and I have an oncologist. Even though 26 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: I don't have cancer, I have a tumor. So it's 27 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: that thing where I'm like, I have to go to 28 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: an oncologist and he was just like really bizarre older 29 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: man who like knew specifically about the type of tumor 30 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: that I have, which I think is very fascinating. Yeah, 31 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: like a tumor nerd maybe, which is a specialist, a specialist. 32 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: But he was very like nerdy about you know, what 33 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: I have. So it was that thing where I'm like, well, 34 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: I can't let this guy go because he knows exactly 35 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 1: what the hell is going on in here. Yeah, and yeah, 36 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 1: I mean it was a huge, uh situation for me 37 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: when I left LA because I was like, I gotta 38 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 1: go find all these people and they don't know my body, 39 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: and I don't know what if they like, you know, 40 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: think it's something else. 41 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 2: You know, it's nerve wracking to find a new doctor. Yeah, 42 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 2: it just did you never know what you're gonna get. 43 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 2: You never know if you if where you you're moving 44 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 2: to has what you need and h or if you're 45 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 2: gonna have to travel like it's it's nerve wracking. 46 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. So even after I had left LA, I was 47 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 1: still going back to LA to like go to the 48 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: doctor every so often, and I was getting scans there 49 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: and everything, and I just was like, Okay, the gig 50 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 1: is up. I'm gonna have to finally anchor down and 51 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: get local doctors because I certainly can't continue going to 52 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: doctors across the country, right right. So I was asking 53 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: around some friends of mine, and I don't know if 54 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: you do this, Daniel, but you know how there are 55 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: certain people in your life where you're like, oh, they 56 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 1: will know. 57 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 2: Who a good doctor is absolutely absolutely. 58 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: For whatever reason. Like you just like look around and 59 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: we're like, who are my favorite hyperchondriacs? Who are the 60 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: ones that are like constantly going to the doctor, And 61 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: then like, you know, they're very fussy about it, you 62 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: know what I mean? 63 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 2: Who of my friends takes care of themselves? 64 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly exactly. Who has sued a doctor before? No, 65 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: I'm kidding, So, I you know, I was just sort 66 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: of asking around some friends of mine and my friend 67 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: Eddie Ray, who is an Atlanta legend, and I love 68 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: him so much, you know, I was I was at 69 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: his house and he was talkingalking about his doctor, and 70 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: he was like, I'm in love with my doctor. And 71 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, really, how could you be in love with 72 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: your doctor? Doctors are fucking scary, and he's like, no, no, no, 73 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: no no, this guy is truly the best. Like he's 74 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 1: so wonderful, so gentle, so kind, so this and that. 75 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: And of course I was like, well, who is it? 76 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: Who isn't He's like, well, I kind of don't want 77 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: to tell you because I don't want you to fall 78 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: in love with him. 79 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 2: I was like, okay, I'm like, well that that is intriguing. 80 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 2: We were like, wait, you love your doctor so much 81 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 2: that you don't want him to have more patience just 82 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 2: to leave a lot of free time for you. 83 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: Right right? And I was like, so you don't want 84 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: me to go see your doctor because you're in love 85 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: with him and he's yours and I'm gonna steal him 86 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: from you. This is the scenario that you've created, okay. 87 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 2: Which which also like intimates that like he's he's in 88 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 2: love with you. 89 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and that he falls in love with all 90 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: of his patients and we all have an equal shot. Ah. 91 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: So he basically was and then and then he did 92 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 1: eventually give me his name, and then was like, good luck, 93 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: because it's gonna take like a million years to get 94 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: an appointment with him because he's so popular and amazing. 95 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, fine, So right before the holidays, 96 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 1: I actually called the office and I was basically like, 97 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: can I make I'm a new patient? Can I make 98 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:33,679 Speaker 1: an appointment with this guy or whatever? And they were like, yeah, 99 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 1: let's see like in this like discouraging me. And I'm like, 100 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 1: oh my god, who the fuck is this? 101 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 2: Why are there on date keeping this motherfucker already? 102 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: And listen, I mean I'm telling you right now, I 103 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: get it because like what I just said, I mean, 104 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: it's like once you find a doctor, it's suddenly like 105 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 1: a really important thing. And I'm like, oh my god, 106 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: this guy must be really good, and everybody wants him 107 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 1: not to have new patients, even his staff, even the 108 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: people that he pays. So I ended up like somehow 109 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,799 Speaker 1: finding an appointment like three months from what I called. 110 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: Like I was like, you know, Hey, you know, would 111 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: you be able to find me something if it's like 112 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: three months from now, like February, like something in late February. 113 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: They were like, yes, okay, so she put she puts 114 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: them on a calendar as a new patient. Then, when 115 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: you know, time passes, time passes, time passes, Sally, the 116 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: appointment comes up, and I remember they called me. They 117 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: called me to confirm, and then the lady was like, 118 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: wait a second, you're a new patient. Wait, I don't 119 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: think he takes new patients. Let me, I'm gonna have 120 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: to put you on a hold. And I was like, 121 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: did you just call it a confirm my appointment with me? 122 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: And now you're telling me that I may not have 123 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: the appointment that I made three months ago. 124 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, and also I've wasted three months where I could 125 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 2: have maybe gone to another doctor. Yes, he's not gonna 126 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 2: take me. 127 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: Yes, And I was like, shitting girl, I was shitting, 128 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: like she's gonna come back on this line and be like, actually, 129 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 1: I'm sorry that was a mistake. Whoever booked your appointment 130 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: was on meth and was not thinking clearly and or something, 131 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: you know, basically like we fucked up and you don't 132 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: have this appointment, but she put me on a ten 133 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: minute hold, which took forever, and then came back and said, actually, 134 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: we're fine, like you know, see you tomorrow blah blah 135 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. And I was like, thank the Lord brutal. So, 136 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: you know, I go to the place, and of course 137 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: I'm like a ball of nervousness because I'm like, I'm 138 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: the doctor. Makes me nervous. Knowing that I have to 139 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: like unload my entire medical history on this person and like, 140 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: you know, just really really needing to find somebody that's 141 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: gonna like be the person to hook me up with 142 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: all my other stuff. You know. It was just a 143 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: lot was writing on this appointment, okay, And I swear 144 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: to God. 145 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 2: I go in. 146 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: I go into the office, and like I wait around 147 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: for a while, and then like the first person that 148 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: comes up to me, you know how like when you 149 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: go to the like doctor's offices and like people are 150 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: like it's like the DMV. There's like tons of fucking 151 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: people in there, and then somebody just screams out your 152 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: last name like all mean you know, and I'm like, 153 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: oh my god, that's just not a good feeling. Like 154 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: you're at the doctor, somebody's like Henderson like hurry up, 155 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: get your ass in here. Cattle prog, cattle prog, cattle prob. 156 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: Like they're just so hurting all the patients through and 157 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: it's very like annoying, and it makes you feel like 158 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: a number no I actually had. I was just sitting 159 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: there and then suddenly this nurse, this this male nurse 160 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: comes up to me, crouches down next to me and 161 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: touches my leg and says miss Milly. And I was like, 162 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: oh damn what And He's like, okay, it's time for you. 163 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: And I was like, whoa that has literally never happened 164 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: to me. 165 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 2: Before the care starts. 166 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: Now, yes, we are not going to scream your name 167 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 1: from like another section of the waiting room. We're gonna 168 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: come over to you and touch your leg as if 169 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: you're a child waiting to see Santa or something. 170 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 2: You know. 171 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: It's just like it was like this moment of like 172 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: oh my god, like this is like amazing, and it 173 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: immediately put me at ease. That's the whole thing. Immediately 174 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: kind of relaxed me that somebody came over and just 175 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: like crouched down next to me and said my name. 176 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: I didn't even say my last name, said my first name, 177 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:20,359 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god, I love this already, 178 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: you know. So then I go in there, you know, 179 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 1: we go over everything, blah blah blah blah blah, and 180 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: then you know, he leaves, nurse leaves, and then the 181 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: doctor comes in, and the doctor is like, I mean 182 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 1: he had a mask on, but from what I saw, 183 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: but you know, upstairs and downstairs, he looked just like 184 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: Beto o' roark. And I was like, like, okay, so 185 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 1: I got this. 186 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 2: Like Beto o'roar guy, he Beto Davis eyes. You're like, 187 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 2: I can see those eyes and. 188 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: What I'm working with here, and he'll tease you exactly. 189 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: So so you know, I was like because I didn't even 190 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 1: know who to really expect, like age wise, he's definitely 191 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: younger than me. Like that's the one thing that really 192 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: fucked me up was I was like, oh shit, doctors 193 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: are younger than me. 194 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 2: Now that's gonna start happened in forever now. 195 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. But when he came in, he was very 196 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: like he just glides across the room. He's very like 197 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: soft spoken. He's got like this kind of like way 198 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: of like he just has this communication style that's very 199 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: calm app. It's very like, right Killian Murphy's calm app 200 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: sleep story vibe. Like he's just very relaxed and he's 201 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: and like he just sat there and like we just 202 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 1: had a conversation like we were we were talking, like 203 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: he was asking me what I did and asking me like, 204 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: you know, all about myself and what my you know, 205 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 1: where was I in La and blah blah blah blah blah. 206 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: And it was like he had all the fucking time 207 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 1: in the world, man, And I was like, Wow, this 208 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: is so amazing. Like he just like really didn't rush me, 209 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: didn't like start yelling at me about stuff. Like he 210 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: was looking at my you know, I sent over my 211 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: records from La and he was looking it all over, 212 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: asking me so many questions and they were all just 213 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: very like it was such a nice chat. At one 214 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: point I told him that I had just come back 215 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: from Europe, right right, and you know, he was like, oh, 216 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: what was that, Like where did you go? And I 217 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: told him that I went to Bruges, because I you know, 218 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: I went to Bruges on my trip. And he was like, oh, 219 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: are you talking about like the movie in Bruges, it's 220 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: so funny, Like that movie is so funny. 221 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 2: He could like sentence for you specifically, Oh my god. 222 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: I was like, this is so sad, but like, why 223 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: does my heart flutter when people like the same movies 224 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: that I like, like Strangers in the World, Like he 225 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,719 Speaker 1: should be over that by now, Like I should be like, oh, 226 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: a stranger likes a movie that I like. Like I'm 227 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 1: not completely in love with him, and I'm not gonna 228 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: pin all my hopes and dreams on person. But no, 229 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: he mentioned in the back he he mentions that he 230 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: loves the movie in Brush, and I'm like, oh god, 231 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: I gotta marry this person. Oh even though he has 232 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:21,839 Speaker 1: like the fattest wedding ring on his finger, he's wearing. 233 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 2: Like a Real Housewives diamond. 234 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean the ring is so so present 235 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 1: there was no mistaking it. And I was like, he's married, 236 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: you know, Like, but he likes the movie that I like, 237 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: and he kind of looks like Beto O'Rourke and he's 238 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: super nice and gentle, Like he puts me on the 239 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: fucking seat right, you know, like the prop up seat 240 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: or whatever, to like check. He pulls out this deathoscope 241 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: and he's like asking me to breathe and breathe out. 242 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: I swear to god, he like that touch of the 243 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: stethoscope was like the most gentle. It was just like 244 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: a It was like a little butterfly kiss on my back. 245 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: And I was like, this guy's got it. He's got 246 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 1: the touch, he's got the power. I don't know what 247 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: to say about him, but I'm like, I'm totally in 248 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: love with him. Like I'm like, well, I don't know 249 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: what happened in this thirty five minutes, but now I'm 250 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: in love with my doctor. 251 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 2: Oh you you left that office and sent me not one, 252 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 2: but two voice memos about this man. 253 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: A voice memo which means you know that shit is serious. 254 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 2: I know it's serious when I get voice memos from 255 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 2: Millie super and two two of them back two back 256 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:36,959 Speaker 2: popped up and I was like, all right, send me 257 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 2: a link. I need to see this man. And she 258 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 2: sent me the link to like his doctor page, and 259 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 2: I was like, well, you look at this jock ass nerd. 260 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 2: Of course you're in love with him. He looks like 261 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 2: he fucking plays lacrosse on the weekends for fun, still 262 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 2: in his thirties. He's playing lacrosse with his college friends. 263 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie, dude. At one point he said 264 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: he used to play baseball for his high school. And 265 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 1: I shit myself, like I was. I was on the bed, 266 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: on the elevated bed, covered in my own filth. 267 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 2: You're like, oh, do you need a stool sample, because 268 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 2: I have one for you. Exactly, here's a stool sample. 269 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 2: You could not have crafted a better fucking dude for you. 270 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: It's so embarrassing. And a former baseball. 271 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 2: Player who looks like Bano O'Rourke and likes the movie 272 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 2: in Bruges, like, was he crafted in a fucking lab? 273 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 2: You know? 274 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: It is so funny. I don't even think better o' 275 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: work is hot like that. I don't think he's hot. 276 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: But in that scenario where you're like, oh, I'm in 277 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: this place where for a doctor. If Better o'rourk was 278 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: a doctor and beefy hot, he's a beefier beddo much beefier? 279 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: I will say, And I didn't see underneath the mask. 280 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: I mean, the only thing we're going on really is 281 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: the profile, which I said to you, like a creep 282 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: that is so creepy. Why did I ask for it? 283 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 2: I asked for it like a creep. I was like, 284 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 2: let me see this, dude, let me know what I'm 285 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 2: working with God. 286 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: And then of course I totally had to call Eddie 287 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: and be like, listen, you were right, like, I am 288 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: in love with him and we're just gonna have to 289 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: be his sister wives because I'm not letting this go Like, 290 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: no fucking way. 291 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 2: Now, are you now in the Eddie position where you 292 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 2: will not recommend him to people because you do not 293 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,359 Speaker 2: want him someone else to fall in love with him? 294 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: I might be No, I'm not gonna lie. 295 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 2: Do you have a follow up appointment? 296 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: I do? Actually, I actually do so. And there's like 297 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: a moment where I'm like, do I need a new 298 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: outfit for this follow up appointment? Should I go? Should 299 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: I go? Get gust it up? This is sick. This 300 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: is sick, sick, sick. 301 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 2: So he's gonna be like, ma'am, I can't actually do 302 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 2: what I need to do here because you're wearing too 303 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 2: many contraptions like I didn't ask you to come into 304 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 2: BOOSTI and a fucking like full face of makeup, and 305 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 2: now I can't check your vitals. 306 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you this right now, This is gonna be. 307 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: I'm like afraid to say this. I'm just afraid to 308 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: even say it, but I gotta tell you because I can. 309 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: He did say that the office offers paps and other 310 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: guynecological services, and I was like, don't tell me that. 311 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 2: Oh you you're about to break up that marriage. That 312 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 2: is a fucking flex'd be like, ps, we could also 313 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 2: check your vagina and you no. 314 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: He said it in the most, you know, absolutely professional way, 315 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: but my broken brain was like, I can't. 316 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 2: You know. I was like, I'm sure he was very professional, 317 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 2: and I'm sure he knew exactly what he was doing 318 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 2: and was like, I'm gonna get you, and you're like, oh, 319 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 2: I'm gonna get you. 320 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: Listen. I can't even imagine a world where I would 321 00:16:56,800 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: go there to get any Like I'm like, don't please, 322 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: don't look underneath here. 323 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 2: Don't look under the hood. 324 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: Just up here, focus up top, focus up top. Just 325 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 1: put that stethoscope on on my back. 326 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 2: Oh good, listen. 327 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 1: So that's my situation. I'm gonna I'm gonna pickle. I 328 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: gotta stop being in love with my new doctor, and 329 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: you know that's it. But I honestly I have heard 330 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: that you have new doctors too, which is weird that 331 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 1: we're both fighting new doctors at the same time. 332 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and we were already having a week because once 333 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,199 Speaker 2: you mentioned your crush on this jockass nerd, I was like, 334 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 2: I also am having a weird crush moment, and I 335 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 2: hate I regret to inform the world, but Steve Buscemi 336 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 2: is officially hot now, and I sent Millie I'm like, look, 337 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 2: there was this GQ profile two years ago and the 338 00:17:55,680 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 2: pictures were astounding. He looks so cute, and then within 339 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 2: the last year he became a model for Kith and 340 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 2: he looks like an Italian grandpa. Like I'm so into it, 341 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 2: and I'm like, yeah, I'm having a weird crush too. 342 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 1: Okay, Kith is Also they're the ones that actually put 343 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: Jerry Seinfeld in some model clothes too, So what are 344 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: they doing. Are they trying to be like, hey, take 345 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,479 Speaker 1: these like middle aged men and make make them hot 346 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: for us, Like what is happening now? I don't think 347 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: Jerry Seinfeld's hot, It's gonna throw that out there, but 348 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like I think that they're trying to 349 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: do this on purpose, like they're trying to make that 350 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: absolute men. 351 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 2: Someone made the decision in some office and they're like, 352 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 2: you know what we need to do is go for 353 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 2: the middle aged man and put him in a floral 354 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 2: pant and we'll make it work. 355 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: Dude, worked on you, is what you're so worked on me. 356 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 2: It did not work on me for Jerry Seinfeld. But 357 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 2: Steve Fusemi is officially fucking hot. And I know friends 358 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:01,719 Speaker 2: who live near him in Park Slope and I was like, 359 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 2: drop a word and my friend's like, I will not 360 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 2: drop a word. 361 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: I will not. 362 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 2: I'm like, see, marry people do not have your fucking 363 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 2: single friend's backs ever. 364 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: Is he single? Wait? What is his status? 365 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 2: His wife died? Oh god, this is so awful. His 366 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 2: wife died. His wife, Joe Andres, died like four years ago. 367 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 2: She had cancer. Oh god, yeah, pretty awful. And they 368 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 2: were together for like thirty years and like ugh, and 369 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 2: she was so talented and cool and but yeah, they 370 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 2: live in Park Slope, they have a kid. And I 371 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 2: don't know if he's still single, but he was widowed 372 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 2: as of four years ago. And I have friends that 373 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 2: live near him, and I'm like, why don't you hook 374 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 2: a bit shop? And they're like no, and I'm like, see, 375 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 2: this is why I can't fuck with you all anymore. 376 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 2: Make the canet, just like when you're standing in line 377 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 2: at the fucking co op, just be like, hey, are 378 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 2: you still single? I got a friend like you do 379 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 2: not know me, but we're cool. I'm your neighbor. I 380 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 2: got a friend who's like, awesome, Well. 381 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 1: Don't do it. I think what you should do is 382 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: just go stand out in front of his place and 383 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 1: just wait. 384 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 2: See this is you being under the influence of this 385 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 2: new doctor. You're like, what you should do is go 386 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 2: full creep. Just make another appointment. Keep making appointments with 387 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 2: that man until he levels up. Days. So I was 388 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 2: I was definitely already in weird crush mode. Yeah, and look, 389 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 2: if any of you are willing to put the word 390 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 2: out to Steve Usemi that I think he's cute, you 391 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 2: go for it, because my friends will not. I'm looking 392 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 2: for new friends and someone to hook me up with 393 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 2: Steve Semi. But I also had the doctor moments. We 394 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 2: were having very tandem week and we were very instinct 395 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 2: last week. 396 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 397 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 2: So I'm in the same position where I've been here 398 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 2: for a year and a half. I lasted my last 399 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 2: doctor's appointment in LA before, you know, when I still 400 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 2: live there, was also considering like maybe I should go 401 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 2: back to LA and just go to my doctors and 402 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 2: just you know, I have a meeting in March. I 403 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,360 Speaker 2: should just like you know, schedule all this doctor shit 404 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 2: anyway because I'll probably be in LA and then I'm like, Danielle, 405 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 2: get your shit together, like, just get a doctor here. 406 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 2: And I never have had a doctor here because I 407 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 2: left when I was seventeen. And when I left here, 408 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 2: my primary doctor was my pediatrician. Wow, Like I saw 409 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 2: my pediatrician until I was like seventeen years old. Yeah, 410 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 2: and he's dead now, so rest in peace, doctor Kanye King, 411 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 2: Peace King Resid He's king. They named a plaza after him. 412 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. He was like the fucking pediatrician for the 413 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 2: town and everyone loved him. But I never had a 414 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 2: doctor here. So I'm like, all right, I'm gonna do 415 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 2: what I did the last time I lived in New 416 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 2: York City. I'm hopping on ZocDoc and I'm gonna start 417 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 2: looking because I asked a couple of friends like, hey, 418 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 2: I need a new guy. I know a new primary physician. 419 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 2: I've already got a dentist and just like, who do 420 00:21:58,400 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 2: you see You've been living here for a few years, 421 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 2: do you see? 422 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 1: Yeah? 423 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 2: And my one friend was like, well, I do have 424 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 2: a doctor, but she's closing her practice. And I was 425 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 2: like fuck. So I hopped on ZocDoc picked up this 426 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 2: great doctor. Like all right, so the top of the year, 427 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 2: I've got my uber list going, I like to knock 428 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 2: out my medical appointments right away. And I picked this 429 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 2: doctor and she was this black woman and actually an 430 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 2: African woman, Nigerian, and I'm like, that's that's my motherfucker 431 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 2: right there. So I go to the office and it 432 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 2: was a really nice experience. They still doing COVID protocols, 433 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 2: so they had to like I just sit in my 434 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 2: car and wait for a password. They're like, we'll call 435 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 2: you with a password, and I was like all right. 436 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 2: And then I get to the building and I'm like Hat. 437 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 2: They're like, do you have a password. I'm like yeah, 438 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 2: is it Hat? And she's like all right, come on in, 439 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,360 Speaker 2: and I was like the fuck. So I go in 440 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 2: and just like you described name shouted across the fucking 441 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 2: planes and I go But it was nice, like everyone 442 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 2: was really friendly and like they were ready for me. 443 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 2: There was no like what's your insurance with like there 444 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 2: were ready for me. So I go in and I 445 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 2: meet then you know, I'm sitting there. I do the vitals, 446 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 2: the primary check in and get undressed, sit on the 447 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 2: thing and I'm waiting for the gut acologists to come in. 448 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 2: She comes in, she's read, She's very gentle, she has 449 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 2: a very good bedside manner, like instantly, just like very 450 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,199 Speaker 2: calming and like, do you have any questions for me? 451 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 2: Here are some questions I have for you. You know, you're 452 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 2: forty five. Is there anything you want to focus on? 453 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 2: Is there any of this? And she actually asked me, 454 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 2: She's like, what kind of birth control do you use? 455 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 2: And I was like, well, I haven't dated in like 456 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 2: a decade. And she's like, oh, so abstinence. I'm like, yes, 457 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 2: that is the word for it, abstinence. 458 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 1: Like I forgot the word. 459 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 2: And I'm like, my birth control is I don't see 460 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 2: dix And so she I have shut down the works, 461 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 2: and so she's like okay, and then I lay back 462 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 2: and she does the exam. You know how the exam goes. 463 00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 2: But you know, I kept my socks on so I 464 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,919 Speaker 2: didn't have to deal with the cold stirrups. She warmed 465 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 2: up the speculum, which is a new thing. That's a 466 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 2: new thing and I love it. And then she you 467 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 2: know if you haven't had a gynecological exam, and involves 468 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 2: some insertion of fingers, so she has their fingers in me, 469 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 2: and then she's pressing on my stomach and she's like, 470 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 2: relax your stomach. Relax, and I'm like, oh, did you 471 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 2: not hear the part where I told you I haven't 472 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 2: been touched in ten years? Like I can't relax. This 473 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 2: is a very weird and new experience for me. And 474 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 2: so I finally relaxed, and she's like, Okay, that's great. 475 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 2: And she has this like kind of like a soft 476 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 2: whisper voice, so she was like, okay, just relax. And 477 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 2: also they had to call they called someone else in 478 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 2: to stand there, like while she was doing the exam, 479 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 2: like I had like a babysitter. Oh be cause I guess, 480 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 2: like I don't know if people complain about like I've 481 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 2: been hurt in this exam or I've been harmed or 482 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 2: they did something weird, and I'm like all right. So 483 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 2: she had like a guard, like a security guard there 484 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 2: but it. 485 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 1: Was just another they got guards. Yeah, that's right, security. 486 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,959 Speaker 2: This is exactly how my vagina should be treated with 487 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 2: some fucking respect. And so the nurses just standing there 488 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 2: kind of looking away and this, you know, doctor's like 489 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 2: face between my legs, fingers in me, and then she 490 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 2: gave me the fucking shocker. She goes, do you mind 491 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 2: if I do a rectal exam? Like real quiet, like, 492 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 2: do do if I do a rectal exam? And I 493 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 2: have said yes because I'm like, I don't know what 494 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 2: she just said. I said yes, finger in the asshole. 495 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 2: All of a sudden, I'm getting the goddamn shocker. What 496 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 2: And I'm like, what in the Dane cook hell? Is this? 497 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 2: This is new? This is some new middle aged information. 498 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 2: Because after she gave me the fucking shocker and she 499 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 2: had all of her fingers in all of my holes, 500 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 2: she was like, well, you know, we start checking around 501 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 2: this age for like colon issues, and you know you 502 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 2: might want to get a colonoscopy by the time you 503 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,479 Speaker 2: turn fifty and start doing that regularly. And I was like, 504 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 2: I'm still stunned, bitch. You gotta calm down, slow this 505 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 2: roll out of this information. You just put your finger 506 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 2: on a butt pole also, and it was like quick 507 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 2: like she slipped it in, slipped it out, And I'm like, 508 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 2: apparently I've given some rectal exams in my life and 509 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 2: didn't even know it. Wow. I don't know what kind 510 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 2: of information she was getting from that quick insertion. Wow, 511 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 2: but she could have carried me around like a fucking handbag. 512 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 2: She was just all in me suddenly, and I was like, 513 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 2: what is happening. This has never happened to me in 514 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 2: a gynecological exam before. 515 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: It's like she was about to bowl for a turkey completely. 516 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 2: Come. 517 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:45,640 Speaker 1: Okay, I need to ask, just because I have follow 518 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 1: up appointments scheduled for my own doctors. Okay, m hm, 519 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: do they really include a bh poke now as part 520 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: of a of a like a gyno thing? 521 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 2: You are middle fucking age and they start telling women now, 522 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 2: I guess according to her, they start telling women you 523 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 2: gotta check that colon starting around each forty forty. Up. 524 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 1: I've heard that colonoscopy is now start at forty five, 525 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: like it used to be fifty, but now some people 526 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: are saying that it should be forty five now or something. 527 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Yeah. So if you're middle age and you 528 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 2: haven't been to the Guaya win a while. Get ready 529 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 2: for the fucking shocker. It's coming for you. What two 530 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 2: in the fucking pink Like, I was like, what is happening? Wow? 531 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: Dude, she had everything in me. 532 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 2: She was pressing on my stomach, and I'm like, I 533 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 2: don't love this. Yeah, it was quick, but I didn't 534 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 2: love it. I didn't hear She's like, can I can 535 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 2: I give you? Can I put do a rect alexam? 536 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 2: And I was like yeah, thinking she was just gonna 537 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 2: like use her eyeballs and look at my but hole. Wow. 538 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 1: Well we got some bleaching going on back here, Like 539 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: what's going on back here? 540 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,439 Speaker 2: And I'm like, fuck your funeral bitch, Like, do what 541 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 2: you gotta do if you want to just my butthole 542 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 2: no hand finger in. 543 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: Wow, that that is interesting. I mean I know that, 544 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 1: Like you know, men have to do that a lot, right, 545 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: isn't that part of their kind of normal exam? 546 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 2: Yep? 547 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: Well, I I've never had that happen so either. So 548 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 1: I'm thinking this is a new trend for GINO. 549 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 2: Thing things done changed in COVID. Wow is what I 550 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 2: have discovered. So yeah, that was an experience. And again 551 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 2: she was very nice, great bedside manner, explained everything after 552 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 2: explained everything before. I was just like tense already yes, 553 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 2: and so when she asked, I was just like, yeah, sure. 554 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 2: And then what I should have said is what does 555 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 2: that entail? Is it going to be eyeballs on butthole 556 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 2: or finger in butthole? Both would have made me uncomfortable 557 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 2: for different reasons. I don't look at my own butthole, 558 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 2: so I don't know what you're gonna find back there. 559 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 2: And then I was like, is everything fine? Like how 560 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 2: do you ask about your butt hole? 561 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: Well, and now you understand why going to the doctor 562 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: makes people so fucking nervous. It's like all this stuff, 563 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: like all of the things that they add all all 564 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: of the little add ons that happened now are it's 565 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: just very it's. 566 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 2: Very purchases your body. 567 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: Well, I I'm okay. So bottom line, bottom line, I 568 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: am not going to the sky for any of that stuff, 569 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: like I'm going to I'm going to find a brand 570 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: new person, like I just gotta find somebody, you know what. 571 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you. The best guy know I ever 572 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: had was in La. She was this extremely extremely funny, 573 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: great personality, older Jewish woman. It was fucking fantastic. I 574 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: think I've talked about her on the podcast before, Like 575 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: she kind of had this like borsch belt humor and 576 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: she was like such a So that's a fucking gem. 577 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: She made me feel completely completely at ease, and she 578 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: was just cracking jokes. So I need that kind of doctor. 579 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: I need like a crack in jokes, bh doctor, Like 580 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: I don't want to like, I don't need anybody that's 581 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: going to be serious or like anything I need. I 582 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: needed to be laughs, you know what I mean. 583 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, my doctor was very serious and very gentle and 584 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 2: again very kind. I'm glad to have her. I'm glad 585 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 2: to have a new setup. But yeah, you I say, 586 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 2: you do go to LA for your guide to appointments 587 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 2: because you do not need this man that you have 588 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 2: a crush on giving you the fucking shocker. 589 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 1: I mean I would actually die. I would just die 590 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 1: be like, well, she's not your patient anymore, because she 591 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: died because she was so embarrassed. 592 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 2: She flatlined. She flat lined as soon as you saw 593 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 2: her butthole. She died. She passed away. 594 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: And it's such a shame because you were in love 595 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: with her. Weren't you You were going to ask her 596 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: to be your wife. 597 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 2: Wife. Now she's just part of some long term medical examination, 598 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,719 Speaker 2: like some long term medical report. Why did this patient 599 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 2: die when I touched her bh her bowl? Why does 600 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 2: she die? Yeah, it's been a week. It's been a week, 601 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 2: and I have, you know, I have another appointment for 602 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 2: my primary care physition, and I'm like, well, sky's the 603 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 2: limit now that I'm middle aged. Yeah, they'll be like, 604 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,719 Speaker 2: how about we biopsy everything? How about we fucking scrub 605 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 2: some freckles off and check that she like they're just 606 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 2: they treat the middle aged body like it's a car 607 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 2: that needs to be completely refurbished. Yeah, it's wild. 608 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: Well here's to getting older. It's it's a fucking. 609 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 2: Gas Three cheers to doctors. On that note, I'm psyched 610 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 2: about this week. This is something new for both of us. 611 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,719 Speaker 1: I think so too, and I feel like you you 612 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: were the architect of this and it's a genius. So 613 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,040 Speaker 1: I want you to to tell the people what the 614 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 1: and then kind of explain what it is. 615 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 2: So our theme this week is just press play. And 616 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 2: the reason that I thought of this theme is that 617 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 2: I wanted Milly to watch my movie when I realized 618 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 2: that she'd never watched it before, and I was shocked 619 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 2: but not surprised because you know, it was released in 620 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 2: twenty fourteen. But I was like, oh my god, I 621 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,719 Speaker 2: feel like I really want you to watch this, just 622 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 2: not whether you like it or not. I want you 623 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 2: to watch it because it's one of my favorite movies 624 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 2: and I want your opinion on it. But then I thought, 625 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 2: there's so many movies that you bring not only to 626 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 2: the pod but to our friendship where I'm like, oh, 627 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 2: I haven't seen that. I want to watch that. I 628 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 2: want to know what Millie would present to me as 629 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,719 Speaker 2: something that I've never seen before. And I came up 630 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 2: with the guidelines. There were guidelines for the first time ever, 631 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 2: Wow this this pod where I said, do not read 632 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 2: anything about it, do not look up any information about it, 633 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 2: just press play yep. 634 00:32:55,360 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: And that's exactly what I did. YEP. As a woman 635 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: who is compelled to do so much fucking research in 636 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 1: every area of her life, like I need to look 637 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: up everything all the time, I had to curb my 638 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: impulse to not look anything up because I was like, I, 639 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: for some reason, I think I was getting this movie 640 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: confused with Bernie, do you remember that? Oh? 641 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. 642 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: So I was like, I wonder if it's that movie, 643 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: but I don't want to I don't want to go 644 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: any further. I'm just gonna like press play, just as 645 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: she to do so. 646 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 2: And how did that go for you? So? 647 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: Actually, I was very enchanted by your film, and once 648 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: about ten minutes was left of the film, I immediately 649 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 1: remembered it like I watched all but like the last 650 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: ten minutes, and then I was like, oh, wait a minute, 651 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: I think I remember when this movie came out. And 652 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: then of course after it was over, I was I 653 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: went in too Wikipedias, like, oh, of course, because it 654 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: was written by somebody that I'm a big fan of, 655 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I can't even believe I forgot that 656 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: this happened. But at the time that I watched, when 657 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: I pressed play, I truly had no fucking idea what 658 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:15,439 Speaker 1: I was about to watch. 659 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:19,760 Speaker 2: Same with your movie. Same I could wait, could not wait. 660 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 2: And part of the reason I wanted you to just 661 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 2: press play on my film. Were you surprised by the 662 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 2: actor that plays the title role when it's finally revealed? Uh? 663 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: Yes, one hundred and seventy nine percent shock. 664 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 2: Because that is part of the charm of that movie 665 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 2: for me. 666 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was I anyway, we can talk about it 667 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 1: because I know you're going first, but I was like, 668 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 1: this is so bizarre. I can't even describe it. 669 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 2: Like I'm like, wow, well that is also something something 670 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 2: that another layer that revealed itself to me as I 671 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 2: was watching the double feature this week is I feel 672 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 2: like we each kind of picked movies that showcased what 673 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 2: the insides of our brains look like. Like each of 674 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 2: our films is so specific to each of us in 675 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 2: terms of like what we like and what we are 676 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 2: like that it was really revelatory in the best possible way. 677 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,319 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, this is us. 678 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I gotta say that is actually that crossed 679 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 1: my mind when I was watching your film. I was like, oh, yeah, 680 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 1: this is a Danielle thing, like for sure, Well. 681 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 2: We are just gonna jump right the fuck in because 682 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 2: I can't wait to talk about it. This is one 683 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:38,240 Speaker 2: of my top five movies. 684 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,799 Speaker 1: Wow, wait wait, top five of all time? 685 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, of all time. 686 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 1: Wow. 687 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 2: I think it's deeply, deeply underrated. It brings out several 688 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:53,360 Speaker 2: emotions in me. It was released in twenty fourteen. The 689 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 2: screenplay is by John Ronson and Peter Strawn and it 690 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 2: was directed by Lenny Abramson. And my move it's Frank, 691 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 2: I say tell everyone everything? Why cover anything up? Right? 692 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 2: So to me, this is like a modern day Harold 693 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 2: and Maud in terms of teenagers should watch this, like 694 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 2: people who feel out of place in the world should 695 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 2: watch this movie for several reasons. But right off the bat, 696 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 2: I'll say that Lenny Lenny Abramson directed Room, which is 697 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 2: like this Oscar winning film starring Brie Larsen and Peter 698 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 2: Straan wrote the screenplay for Tinker Taylor Soldier Spy, and 699 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,799 Speaker 2: he's worked with John Ronson before because he also wrote 700 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 2: the screenplay for Men Whysteric Goats And John Ronson who 701 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 2: wrote this he wrote the He wrote a book and 702 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:49,279 Speaker 2: an article on The Guardian based on his time with 703 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 2: a musician, and this movie is based on that true story. Yeah, 704 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:55,799 Speaker 2: and John Ronson is great. If you don't know who 705 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 2: he is, he's again a fantastic journalist and writer. He 706 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 2: wrote if you haven't read so You've been publicly shamed, 707 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 2: please read it The Psychopath Test. Like he's just a 708 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:10,400 Speaker 2: really interesting journalist and writer. And I like the things 709 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 2: that he thinks about and the path that it leads 710 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 2: him down. So to kind of get this aspect of 711 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 2: his early life was also very interesting to me. 712 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I'm a huge fan of him, Like I 713 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 1: have read pretty much all of his books, and I 714 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 1: think he's really funny. Like, and I don't know if 715 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,880 Speaker 1: he's still on Twitter. He might have gotten off Twitter 716 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 1: after he wrote that publish shaming. Yeah, but I used 717 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 1: to follow him on Twitter, which is so funny because 718 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:37,799 Speaker 1: I feel like, I don't know, I just felt like, 719 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 1: now that I've seen your movie, I kind of remember 720 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 1: when he was talking about this band or something. But 721 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 1: I remember once like when he was on Twitter. I 722 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 1: very rarely replied to famous people that don't follow me 723 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,759 Speaker 1: because I'm like, why would I do that, But for 724 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,799 Speaker 1: some reason I couldn't help myself. He said something and 725 00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:00,120 Speaker 1: I replied, and then he replied to me, and I 726 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, John Ronson like reply to 727 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 1: me on Twitter, and it made my entire week. But 728 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 1: then there's no ev it now because he's not on 729 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:10,279 Speaker 1: Twitter so. 730 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:14,399 Speaker 2: Exactly because Twitter's going down. The goddamn crapper. Yeah, uh yeah, 731 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 2: he's fantastic, And I just I was really excited. That's 732 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 2: kind of what brought me to this film is that 733 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 2: I really liked him as a writer, and I thought, oh, well, 734 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 2: if John Ronson is involved in any way and it's 735 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 2: about his life, I'm definitely seeing this. And just to 736 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 2: give a quick one sentence synopsis, a keyboard player of 737 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 2: questionable talent joins an avant garde band with an enigmatic 738 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,359 Speaker 2: leader and embarks on the adventure of his life. 739 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 1: Wow. 740 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 2: Okay, So this cast of this film is incredible. And 741 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 2: I am not going to tell you who plays the 742 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,840 Speaker 2: title role of Frank, because if you haven't seen this film, 743 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 2: I also want that to be a surprise for you. 744 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 2: But Dominal Gleeson plays John in the movie. He's John Burrows, 745 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 2: but he's playing the John Ronson character. You have Maggie 746 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 2: Jillenhall who plays Clara, one of the band members. Francois 747 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 2: Seville plays Barack who's one of the band members, and 748 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:18,360 Speaker 2: Carla Azar plays Nana, who does drums. And this band 749 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 2: is wild. So Clara is a theoreman player. She's kind 750 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 2: of Frank's caretaker. She hates John on site with a 751 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 2: fervent passion. And this might be one of my favorite Maggie. 752 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:35,319 Speaker 1: Jillenhall roles, Yeah, she's got you know, I was trying 753 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 1: to like, I mean, honestly, their band is indescribable. Yeah. 754 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 1: They kind of look like Lady Tron And do you 755 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 1: remember that band Lady Tron, where like the two girls 756 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 1: are super cute and hot, and then there's a guy 757 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,240 Speaker 1: that has like big hair and is probably from France, 758 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,239 Speaker 1: but like that she has that look like I like, 759 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,720 Speaker 1: I love that, Like she had that kind of short 760 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 1: bob and she had kind of like a gothy look 761 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 1: to her and I was like, ooh, girl, yes, this 762 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 1: is a good look for you. 763 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,720 Speaker 2: And that, paired with her attitude in the film, just 764 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 2: makes me laugh so hard. Yeah, and then You've Got Again. 765 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 2: Nana is kind of this very solemn drummer. I don't 766 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 2: even think she speaks a single word of this movie. 767 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 2: She's very solemn. And the French guitarist baraqu just like 768 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 2: only speaks in French and also hates like everyone hates John, 769 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:29,360 Speaker 2: and the reason is that John again has questionable talent. 770 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,359 Speaker 2: So he's when we meet him in the film, he's 771 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,920 Speaker 2: trying to write a song, but his life is pretty 772 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 2: boring and he's not terribly creative, Like he has an 773 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,400 Speaker 2: office job and he's he's someone who kind of more 774 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:44,399 Speaker 2: idolizes musical fame than he does musical talent. And he's 775 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 2: the kind of guy who like tweets about his lunch. 776 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 2: So we meet him as he's trying to write a 777 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 2: song and he's by the beach one day. This is 778 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 2: all taking place in the UK, and he's by the 779 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,400 Speaker 2: beach one day and he sees a man trying to 780 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,880 Speaker 2: drown himself in the sea. And it just so happens 781 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,799 Speaker 2: that this man is a keyboardist for a band that 782 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 2: Scoop McNairy is managing with an unpronounceable name that I 783 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 2: think is soron Furbus, but completely unpronounceable name. And Scoot 784 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 2: McNairy again, incredibly underrated actor, and I think this is 785 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 2: one of his best roles. Dude. 786 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:26,960 Speaker 1: He cracked me up, like just like his weird little isms. 787 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:31,400 Speaker 1: Like there's a scene where and this is actually cracking 788 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 1: me up. I love what you know. There's like this 789 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 1: kind of like running John is writing to his followers 790 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 1: or something like that, and there's like so there's this 791 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,719 Speaker 1: narration and then there's a scene where he's doing that 792 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,880 Speaker 1: and then Scoot McNairy comes out of the woods and 793 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,479 Speaker 1: interrupts the monologue and says like, I just took a shit. 794 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,279 Speaker 1: And I had to rewind it like five times because 795 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,200 Speaker 1: I was laughing so hard. And I don't really know 796 00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 1: why it was cracked me up. I think it was 797 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 1: because you were listening to some narration and then the 798 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,799 Speaker 1: movie just like kind of breaks that fourth wall type 799 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:08,919 Speaker 1: of thing and this guy just saying I just took 800 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,720 Speaker 1: a shit, dude. It was so funny. He's so funny 801 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:12,360 Speaker 1: in this movie. 802 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 2: He's so funny in this movie, and that's I think 803 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 2: it's part of the thing that I love about the 804 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 2: movie as a whole, is that everyone in it is 805 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 2: playing kind of against type from what we've seen from 806 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,359 Speaker 2: them up to that point, and it really just made 807 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:27,480 Speaker 2: me realize, like on the heels of watching Scoot McNairy 808 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 2: in Halting Catch Fire like this, which is if you 809 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 2: haven't watched great TV show, and then watching him in this, 810 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, he's really funny. He's really funny. 811 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,920 Speaker 2: And so he's playing this band manager and they're all 812 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 2: watching this guy from the van from the band van 813 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:46,799 Speaker 2: trying to like drown himself in the sea and it 814 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,920 Speaker 2: turns out that he's the keyboardist and they pull him 815 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:51,840 Speaker 2: out of the sea. The cops pull him out of 816 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:56,360 Speaker 2: the sea, and Don the Scoot McNairy character, the manager 817 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 2: is like, that was our keyboardist, and John just on 818 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 2: a says like, well, I play keyboards, and he's like, great, 819 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,720 Speaker 2: come to this fucking venue tonight. You're gonna play keyboards 820 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 2: for this gig, and he does. He shows up and 821 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 2: he's pushed on stage without knowing any of the songs, 822 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,239 Speaker 2: and then Frank comes out and Frank is a man 823 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 2: in a wet suit with a giant paper mache head 824 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 2: and he plugs his mic into the jack and then 825 00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,759 Speaker 2: just the whole band and Frank kind of freestyles this 826 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:32,480 Speaker 2: song and John joins in and is having such a blast, 827 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:34,560 Speaker 2: and then the movie starts. 828 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta say I was like, as a person 829 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,720 Speaker 1: who had like literally no idea what was going to happen, 830 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:46,680 Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I think I remember the paper 831 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 1: mache head scenario, like it was all coming back to 832 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,360 Speaker 1: me at that point. I was like, Oh, I feel 833 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,880 Speaker 1: like I remember there was a movie about this giant head, 834 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,560 Speaker 1: but I don't know why and I didn't. I definitely 835 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 1: didn't realize it was about a and so all that 836 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 1: stuff was like happening at the same time. And I'm like, okay, 837 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,439 Speaker 1: I really don't. This is not Bernie. Let's just say 838 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:06,919 Speaker 1: that right. 839 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,279 Speaker 2: This is not Burnie, this is not shirliy McLean and 840 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 2: Jack Block. But you're thrust into this life with this band. 841 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,240 Speaker 2: And John kind of goes back to his life after 842 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,600 Speaker 2: this gig, and then Don calls him and he's like, 843 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 2: all right, so that keyboard player who tried to drown himself, 844 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,359 Speaker 2: he's actually been sanctioned, so can you come join us 845 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 2: in Ireland? And John's like great, he thinks he's going 846 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 2: to another gig, and they hop on this ferry. He 847 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:33,760 Speaker 2: gets in the van, like they hop on this ferry, 848 00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,719 Speaker 2: and on the ferry over to Ireland, He's asking Don 849 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,320 Speaker 2: all of these questions about Frank's Frank and Frank's head, 850 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,319 Speaker 2: and he gets a few answers, which are yes, he 851 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 2: wears it all the time. He even wears it when 852 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,960 Speaker 2: he eats, and he eats like a supplement called grow 853 00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:54,759 Speaker 2: nut through a straw. And then he, like John, keeps 854 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,239 Speaker 2: peppering him with all these questions and Don is finally like, 855 00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,520 Speaker 2: you just have to go with it, Like we all 856 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,120 Speaker 2: love Frank, we all want to be Frank. Just go 857 00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 2: with it. And so when you get to Ireland, the 858 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:10,080 Speaker 2: movie kind of changes into this really interesting study of 859 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:14,239 Speaker 2: a band locking themselves in a house to record an 860 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,960 Speaker 2: album and kind of falling apart, like ripping themselves apart 861 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,080 Speaker 2: and coming together for the sake of this music they're 862 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,879 Speaker 2: trying to create. So John has no idea that he's 863 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,920 Speaker 2: actually been kind of kidnapped and co opted into staying 864 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,239 Speaker 2: in Ireland for a long time. He thought he was 865 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,959 Speaker 2: just staying for the weekend, but he doesn't realize until 866 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,239 Speaker 2: Don starts assigning rooms like they're going to be there 867 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,920 Speaker 2: for a while. And this is also where you learn 868 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,560 Speaker 2: and kind of find out the central conflict of the film, 869 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,799 Speaker 2: which is that this is a group of artists who 870 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:48,840 Speaker 2: are centered around individual creative expression coming together to make something, 871 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,920 Speaker 2: but John is trying to really tightly control them. So, 872 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,239 Speaker 2: like you said, he's the narrator of the film. He's 873 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,920 Speaker 2: keeping a journal, he's posting videos online. He's more enamored 874 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,920 Speaker 2: of the process of being an artist, whereas they are 875 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,040 Speaker 2: people who are like we're in the furthest corners of 876 00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,719 Speaker 2: the world and the furthest corners of our mind, and 877 00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,399 Speaker 2: we are just trying to do whatever weird shit we can. 878 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,400 Speaker 2: They're like designing their own instruments and sounds and like 879 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,640 Speaker 2: running around the woods and like he's upset. John is 880 00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:17,960 Speaker 2: obsessed with making the band great, and they're just obsessed 881 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,000 Speaker 2: with making the music that they want to meet. 882 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,880 Speaker 1: Oh, I knew this shit was gonna be a bad 883 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:27,080 Speaker 1: match from minute one. Ah. I was like, here he 884 00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,920 Speaker 1: got this like redhead. I mean he kind of like 885 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,640 Speaker 1: is like, oh, I'm in the Shins. He's kind of 886 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,320 Speaker 1: got that vibe to him where he makes like fun, 887 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:40,240 Speaker 1: kind of buoyant music and it's you know, very cute 888 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:45,160 Speaker 1: and observational. And then he's basically joining like einster Zende Noubotten. 889 00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,399 Speaker 1: Like he's like, I'm gonna be this like indie pop 890 00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:52,480 Speaker 1: guy joining this like fucking noise band, all in black, 891 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,399 Speaker 1: everybody smokes cigarettes. I'm like, there's no way to work 892 00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:56,320 Speaker 1: out at. 893 00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:59,160 Speaker 2: All completely, And it is like and it does, like 894 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,399 Speaker 2: there's so many fun any moments that happened while they're 895 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,799 Speaker 2: in the woods, and I don't want to ruin any 896 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:06,360 Speaker 2: of them. Or like give it away, but it's just 897 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,320 Speaker 2: so fucking fun, and he is like strugs to funk. 898 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,160 Speaker 2: He is truly struggling with like how do I fit 899 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,560 Speaker 2: in here? And there's a point where you realize they've 900 00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:18,520 Speaker 2: been there for eleven months and he is like not well, 901 00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:24,480 Speaker 2: he is not well. But they're all together in the 902 00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,800 Speaker 2: mix and they're making music. And then after tragedy strikes, 903 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:29,680 Speaker 2: the band is kind of forced to make a decision 904 00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,000 Speaker 2: and John reveals that he's been posting these videos of 905 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,760 Speaker 2: them online and as a result, they have a chance 906 00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:41,200 Speaker 2: to play at south By Southwest. So just hanging it 907 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,520 Speaker 2: back a little bit. This is a true story. It's 908 00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,719 Speaker 2: a true story of the Frank side Bottom Band, and 909 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,680 Speaker 2: it's true the man who played the character of Frank 910 00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:56,399 Speaker 2: in real life was named Chris Sevie. So when John 911 00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,920 Speaker 2: Ronson joined the band, it was the old blimey big band. 912 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:05,080 Speaker 2: And you know, Frank Sidebottom had quite a career for 913 00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,480 Speaker 2: a long time. He started playing in the late seventies 914 00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,480 Speaker 2: early eighties and was always just kind of this figure 915 00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,719 Speaker 2: and again very avant garde, very enigmatic figure in the 916 00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:20,080 Speaker 2: music scene and in real life John Ronson, and this 917 00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,880 Speaker 2: is from his article in The Guardian. John Ronson did 918 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,080 Speaker 2: play with them for one gig and then he didn't 919 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,880 Speaker 2: hear from them for a year. But when the manager 920 00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,719 Speaker 2: actually called, he was like, Yeah, that was the best 921 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,600 Speaker 2: night of my life. And he quit college to join them. Wow. 922 00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,040 Speaker 2: And one thing he says in this article, which I 923 00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,880 Speaker 2: really love, is he quotes George Bernard Shaw and he says, 924 00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,480 Speaker 2: and the quote is that the reasonable man adapts himself 925 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:48,880 Speaker 2: to the world. Unreasonable the unreasonable one persists in trying 926 00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:52,319 Speaker 2: to adapt the world to himself. And that's how he 927 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:57,759 Speaker 2: conceptualized Frank Sidebottom. And people often talked about Chris cev 928 00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:59,719 Speaker 2: as if he was two people in one body, Like 929 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:03,640 Speaker 2: Frank was a personality, Chris was a personality. And Chris 930 00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:07,319 Speaker 2: Cevie was married, you know, he had a house. He 931 00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,239 Speaker 2: was married to a woman named Paula cev He had 932 00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,680 Speaker 2: a television show, Frank Sidebottom's Proper tele Show from two 933 00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:15,680 Speaker 2: thousand and six to two thousand and seven, which I 934 00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,880 Speaker 2: think was really ahead of like the Eeric Andre style 935 00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,200 Speaker 2: of talk show. Like he really broke the mold in 936 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:27,560 Speaker 2: several several ways. So after John Ronson left the band again, 937 00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:29,880 Speaker 2: this article it's very funny. He says, he never he 938 00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,880 Speaker 2: was never really fired. It's like Frank kind of moved 939 00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:36,040 Speaker 2: to doing a solo act with a keyboardist, and then 940 00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:37,920 Speaker 2: he did a solo act by himself and then he 941 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:41,120 Speaker 2: just disappeared. So he's like, it wasn't really fired, but 942 00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,640 Speaker 2: he just like didn't talk to me. But he caught 943 00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,680 Speaker 2: up with him ten years later. And by the time 944 00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:50,040 Speaker 2: he caught up with with Chris cev, Chris was divorced 945 00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:53,680 Speaker 2: from Paula and he was working in animation on the 946 00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:59,800 Speaker 2: children's show Pingu, Oh Pingu. Chris Cevi was an animator 947 00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:04,240 Speaker 2: on that show Wow, and he'd like completely pivoted his life. 948 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:06,920 Speaker 2: And John was like, you look kind of thin, but 949 00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,000 Speaker 2: like we'll get together and maybe we'll make some music. 950 00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,560 Speaker 2: And neither John nor Chris knew it at the time, 951 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:17,759 Speaker 2: but Chris had throat cancer and he died in twenty 952 00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:22,040 Speaker 2: ten at fifty four years old. He left behind a 953 00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:27,120 Speaker 2: daughter and two sons, and he died penniless. He was 954 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:31,920 Speaker 2: facing a pauper's funeral until John Ronson did like an 955 00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,600 Speaker 2: online fundraiser and raise enough money to give him like 956 00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:38,600 Speaker 2: a proper funeral service and burial. And then there's this village, 957 00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:44,440 Speaker 2: Timperlay village that Frank often talked about, and they raised 958 00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:48,960 Speaker 2: funds for a memorial statue, which was placed in twenty thirteen. 959 00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,960 Speaker 2: There's a great documentary called Being Frank The Chris CV Story, 960 00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:58,160 Speaker 2: And I kind of it's important to me to talk 961 00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:02,680 Speaker 2: about the real person behind this film, because as entertaining 962 00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,280 Speaker 2: and emotional as this movie is, I think it's also 963 00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:11,600 Speaker 2: really poignant that you're talking about a real artist and 964 00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:13,920 Speaker 2: someone who really did live his life kind of on 965 00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,719 Speaker 2: the fringes and made decisions just because he thought they'd 966 00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:19,439 Speaker 2: be funny or great or interesting. And we don't see 967 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,160 Speaker 2: a lot of that anymore. Everything's really penned in like art. 968 00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,719 Speaker 2: The art and the things that we see nowadays are 969 00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,319 Speaker 2: so curated, and it's interesting to go back to a 970 00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,160 Speaker 2: time where you think someone could just make a paper 971 00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:33,200 Speaker 2: mache head that they made for a costume party and 972 00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:36,600 Speaker 2: then just turned it into a character and turned it 973 00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:40,759 Speaker 2: into art. So and I think Chris CV again, like 974 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:44,000 Speaker 2: he kind of he kind of wrote his life till 975 00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:47,799 Speaker 2: the wheels came off, and you know, he died in 976 00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:50,800 Speaker 2: a way that you know, he wasn't really known or 977 00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:52,400 Speaker 2: people hadn't thought of him in a while by the 978 00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:55,360 Speaker 2: time he had passed away. But he had a family, 979 00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,560 Speaker 2: and he had kids and the sex wife and people 980 00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,239 Speaker 2: who really loved him, and he had friends, and he 981 00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:03,360 Speaker 2: just was a very interesting and and and cool and 982 00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:07,240 Speaker 2: enigmatic artist that I don't think enough people know about. 983 00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:09,920 Speaker 2: So I always cry at the end of this movie 984 00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,000 Speaker 2: for a couple of different reasons. But when you realize 985 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,759 Speaker 2: who who's playing Frank, and then there's this very emotional 986 00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:19,000 Speaker 2: scene with who's with Frank and the band, and it 987 00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:20,759 Speaker 2: just brings all this stuff to mine for me, Like 988 00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:24,279 Speaker 2: it's it's a story of art and connection, you know, 989 00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:28,319 Speaker 2: of love and fear, and like of the usefulness or 990 00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:32,880 Speaker 2: the confinement of social boundaries, and it's about mental illness 991 00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,680 Speaker 2: and mental health and how different that looks for so 992 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,680 Speaker 2: many of us. And it's just really an overwhelming and 993 00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,280 Speaker 2: emotional and lovely movie. 994 00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:47,239 Speaker 1: Well that's interesting because I didn't know any of that 995 00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:51,040 Speaker 1: when I watched it. I just pressed play, as trust 996 00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:54,600 Speaker 1: me to do so that you thought, you know, that's 997 00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,160 Speaker 1: good that there is all that context, because honestly, I 998 00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:01,520 Speaker 1: didn't know any of that, Like I uh uh, you know, 999 00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:07,279 Speaker 1: to me, the movie feels very whimsical, like it's a 1000 00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,200 Speaker 1: like and that's kind of why I meant like I 1001 00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,920 Speaker 1: was enchanted by it. Like I was like, yeah, it's 1002 00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:15,520 Speaker 1: it's fun at most of it. You know, it's very 1003 00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:18,600 Speaker 1: like you're kind of like in this position. You're in 1004 00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:22,000 Speaker 1: the Jawn position of sort of being on a ride 1005 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,520 Speaker 1: with him with this band and everybody is just like 1006 00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,520 Speaker 1: very strange and he's kind of like a fish out 1007 00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:31,799 Speaker 1: of water with them, and you know, and there's a 1008 00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:35,759 Speaker 1: like a lot of like I said, like funny moments 1009 00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:40,440 Speaker 1: where like random things will happen. I gotta admit anytime 1010 00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:46,239 Speaker 1: Frank the character like bumps into something or like you know, 1011 00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:48,719 Speaker 1: like because there's the head, right, this big head that 1012 00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:50,719 Speaker 1: he just walks around with. Like there's a part where 1013 00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:52,400 Speaker 1: he kind of comes out of their little cabin and 1014 00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,920 Speaker 1: he like hits himself on the on one of the beams, 1015 00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:56,480 Speaker 1: and I was like laughing because I just love that 1016 00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,680 Speaker 1: slapstick shit. Like I'm sorry, Like any any time there's 1017 00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:01,760 Speaker 1: like a somebody in a costume that falls or knocks 1018 00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:03,319 Speaker 1: into something that it cracks me up. 1019 00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,279 Speaker 2: And also it's the absurdity of this, like he lives 1020 00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,280 Speaker 2: with his head all day long. And in real life 1021 00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:11,920 Speaker 2: he often did that as well, Like he didn't leave 1022 00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:13,880 Speaker 2: it on for like years at a time, but he 1023 00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:17,360 Speaker 2: would leave the head on, yeah, for like prolonged amounts 1024 00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,320 Speaker 2: of time when he apparently had a like a swimmer's 1025 00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,279 Speaker 2: clip that he put on his nose when he wore 1026 00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,160 Speaker 2: the head, and it kind of deformed his nose because 1027 00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:26,600 Speaker 2: the more he wore the head, the more he had 1028 00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:30,160 Speaker 2: the clip on. What Yeah, wow, that. 1029 00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:34,880 Speaker 1: At all costs. 1030 00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:39,200 Speaker 2: The commitment is unreal. So seeing someone like bump around 1031 00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,200 Speaker 2: in a head is funny because you're like, he doesn't 1032 00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:41,920 Speaker 2: have to be doing that. 1033 00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:46,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean god commitment to the bit. That 1034 00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:50,160 Speaker 1: might be an accidental connection point between our two movies. 1035 00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,680 Speaker 1: But I will say, like, but it's interesting because yeah, 1036 00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:57,640 Speaker 1: knowing now what you've just said about the real life 1037 00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:00,080 Speaker 1: story and the real life person behind it, Yeah, it 1038 00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,160 Speaker 1: kind of changes it for me, to be honest, because 1039 00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,480 Speaker 1: I'm just like, okay, like I kind of saw it 1040 00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,600 Speaker 1: as a very like again like kind of whimsical, fun 1041 00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:11,640 Speaker 1: like effervescent type of movie. But you know it's it's 1042 00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,400 Speaker 1: a it's really emotional for you. And now I know 1043 00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:16,319 Speaker 1: that because at the time, I was like, this is 1044 00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:20,200 Speaker 1: just a weird movie, right, Like that's why I do research, man, 1045 00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,280 Speaker 1: Like I want to know this stuff. 1046 00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:27,320 Speaker 2: You know a great well, now that I've upended your process, 1047 00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,279 Speaker 2: did you like the movie when you watched it where 1048 00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:32,480 Speaker 2: you're like, this is just weird, Danielle is a fucking 1049 00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:34,360 Speaker 2: weird Like what did you think when you were watching 1050 00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,560 Speaker 2: it without this background info? No? 1051 00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,359 Speaker 1: I mean I, like I said, I wasn't sure where 1052 00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,000 Speaker 1: I was going. I was like, oh my god, this 1053 00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:45,240 Speaker 1: is a this is a ride. There were times where 1054 00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:50,760 Speaker 1: I was like, this is the worst music I've ever heard, 1055 00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:52,920 Speaker 1: But then there were times when I was like, actually, 1056 00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:54,920 Speaker 1: this is kind of a jam. I don't know. I 1057 00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,120 Speaker 1: was like going back and forth between it. I say, 1058 00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:03,440 Speaker 1: the very last bit where where there's like a performance 1059 00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:07,160 Speaker 1: towards the end of the film was very like Magnetic 1060 00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,839 Speaker 1: Fields adjacent to and I was like, wow, this is 1061 00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:12,600 Speaker 1: like a Magnetic Field song. This is pretty great. And 1062 00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:17,040 Speaker 1: I kind of loved that whole iteration of the band. 1063 00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:22,640 Speaker 1: It was kind of like a sad cowboy music, you know, 1064 00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:26,239 Speaker 1: like the evolution of this band which is unpronounceable. I'm 1065 00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:27,560 Speaker 1: not even gonna pronounce it. 1066 00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,839 Speaker 2: And they changed the name to something even more unpronounceable. Yeah, 1067 00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:32,640 Speaker 2: way through them. 1068 00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:34,719 Speaker 1: But when they first get on stage, like when you 1069 00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:38,440 Speaker 1: are first introduced to the band, like when his first gig, 1070 00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:44,200 Speaker 1: I was like, wow, Like I hope that they sharpen 1071 00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:46,440 Speaker 1: up by the end of this movie because this music 1072 00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:48,200 Speaker 1: is pretty bad. 1073 00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:52,600 Speaker 2: I love it. I listened to the soundtrack all the time. Wow. 1074 00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:55,800 Speaker 2: Like it is just and you know what it reminds 1075 00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,680 Speaker 2: me of. It reminds me of a lot of people 1076 00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:02,040 Speaker 2: I've known, like in the nineties, like late eighties, early 1077 00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:06,000 Speaker 2: nineties were particularly the nineties, who were just trying shit out. Yeah, 1078 00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,680 Speaker 2: and it was before there was the specter of fame 1079 00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,960 Speaker 2: around every corner, and they were just trying shit out 1080 00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:16,120 Speaker 2: and we're just kind of being free and weird. And 1081 00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:17,480 Speaker 2: I love it. I love it. 1082 00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:20,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. They that whole sequence that happens when they go 1083 00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,919 Speaker 1: to south By Southwest is great, and there's that there's 1084 00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:25,280 Speaker 1: a there's a part of this movie too that I 1085 00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:28,880 Speaker 1: really appreciate, which is that it's kind of like the 1086 00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,680 Speaker 1: band life. Like it's like, here's what happens when you're 1087 00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,080 Speaker 1: in a creative collaboration with other people and you're on 1088 00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,320 Speaker 1: the road, Like when they take that, when those two 1089 00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:38,160 Speaker 1: girls take the band out to the pancake house, I 1090 00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,400 Speaker 1: was like, how many of these breakfasts have I been 1091 00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:44,000 Speaker 1: to with bands, like touring bands in my. 1092 00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:45,760 Speaker 2: Youth, you know exactly. 1093 00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:49,640 Speaker 1: And the idea of everybody having to like live together 1094 00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,120 Speaker 1: to record an album and stuff. I mean like that 1095 00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:54,840 Speaker 1: that was fascinating to me, and it felt very like 1096 00:57:55,200 --> 00:58:00,000 Speaker 1: true to life in a way completely, but also like, Okay, Dah, 1097 00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,600 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to forgive me, because honestly, you're the 1098 00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:07,880 Speaker 1: You're the anglophile. You very much into you know, people 1099 00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:12,240 Speaker 1: from the UK. I was like, who is this guy 1100 00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:14,560 Speaker 1: playing John? I didn't know who he. 1101 00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:16,439 Speaker 2: Was ooh at all? 1102 00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:18,120 Speaker 1: And then I looked him up and I was like, okay, 1103 00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:22,200 Speaker 1: dom Hall Gleason, like I've heard of the name. 1104 00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:23,200 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. 1105 00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,200 Speaker 1: I feel like people are hornyed for him? 1106 00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,360 Speaker 2: Is that there morning for him? Absolutely? 1107 00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:32,720 Speaker 1: Okay? Tell me why? What's going on? What is that? 1108 00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,280 Speaker 1: Who is this person? Was he in something that I 1109 00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:38,240 Speaker 1: didn't watch, like a Star Trek or something like I need? 1110 00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:42,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was in a Star Wars okay, okay, but 1111 00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,840 Speaker 2: he also was in an episode of Black Mirror that 1112 00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:47,160 Speaker 2: is very popular. You might not have gotten to it. 1113 00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:49,280 Speaker 1: I haven't gotten No, I have not gotten to it yet. 1114 00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:53,280 Speaker 2: And he's Brendan Gleeson's son speaking of in Bruges. 1115 00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,400 Speaker 1: Yes, oh my god, exactly, Holy shit. 1116 00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:59,360 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, yeah, he's Brendan Gleason's sun. 1117 00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:04,800 Speaker 1: Wow, he pleas have a kid with I don't know, 1118 00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:06,600 Speaker 1: Kate Blanchet or something. I was like, who does he 1119 00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:09,320 Speaker 1: look like? He looks like he looks like a famous 1120 00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:11,760 Speaker 1: actress too. I don't know if he is a famous. 1121 00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:13,720 Speaker 2: Mom, but I don't know if his mom is famous, 1122 00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:16,720 Speaker 2: but I know that he is. I think I don't 1123 00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:19,000 Speaker 2: know why people are horny for him. I think he 1124 00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:23,880 Speaker 2: just has he kind of brings that millennial weirdo edge 1125 00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:27,840 Speaker 2: to things where he'll choose roles that are unsuspecting and 1126 00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:31,760 Speaker 2: like he kind of isn't afraid to go to a 1127 00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:34,400 Speaker 2: strange place and then he's like a little cute ginger. 1128 00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:40,760 Speaker 1: Yes, he belongs to a group of people that I 1129 00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:45,080 Speaker 1: always see memes about and they're always like horny memes, 1130 00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:49,680 Speaker 1: And I'm like, where are people seeing him to be 1131 00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:51,880 Speaker 1: horny for? Like, I'm just like, I kind of gotta 1132 00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:53,800 Speaker 1: admit I gotta admit I kind of feel this way 1133 00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,120 Speaker 1: about Pedro Pascal, which I know he's your boy, but 1134 00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:59,480 Speaker 1: it's like I see those memes and I'm like, how 1135 00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:02,680 Speaker 1: do how do I get to see things? And then 1136 01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,160 Speaker 1: I realized, Oh, it's a Star Wars thing, which of 1137 01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:08,360 Speaker 1: course I'm not in that world exactly, so I don't 1138 01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,920 Speaker 1: know it. But I'm just like when I see these people, 1139 01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:14,040 Speaker 1: they're like doing like a press junket and everyone's like, 1140 01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,200 Speaker 1: did you see the way that this guy like he 1141 01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:19,200 Speaker 1: like scratched his leg good, it's so hot. 1142 01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:21,800 Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, I think I think we both 1143 01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:26,160 Speaker 2: agree that the world is too horny now, like people 1144 01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:31,000 Speaker 2: are too horny for any and everything. 1145 01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:35,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta say the world is. You are absolutely 1146 01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:35,960 Speaker 1: right about that. 1147 01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:39,000 Speaker 2: It makes sense that you're like why, because a lot 1148 01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:41,760 Speaker 2: of the times I'm like why, this is just a 1149 01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:44,040 Speaker 2: this is just a man doing his job, Like why 1150 01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:45,959 Speaker 2: are we so horny? 1151 01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:49,360 Speaker 1: And this is not this is no disrespect to any 1152 01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:53,280 Speaker 1: of these people, Like, yes, these people are famous. I'm like, yes, 1153 01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:56,800 Speaker 1: you're you at some point are beautiful enough to appear 1154 01:00:57,040 --> 01:01:00,680 Speaker 1: like thirty feet tall in a movie like y. I'm 1155 01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,440 Speaker 1: not saying that any people are ugli or or anything 1156 01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:04,960 Speaker 1: like that. But it's just that is that moment where 1157 01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:08,360 Speaker 1: you're like, are people like really bent out of shape 1158 01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:10,880 Speaker 1: because there's like this weird moment where he scratched a 1159 01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:13,640 Speaker 1: leg in a press junk in interview, and now people 1160 01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:18,000 Speaker 1: have taken that as a message to their to their 1161 01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:21,439 Speaker 1: fiery looyans. I don't know, like what is happening these 1162 01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:23,919 Speaker 1: little moments, And I'm like, Okay, Like I guess it's 1163 01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:27,200 Speaker 1: just that thing where it's like it's a new generational 1164 01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:31,440 Speaker 1: horniness that maybe exceeds my own horniness, which is crazy. 1165 01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:33,760 Speaker 2: So I you know, I send you all these wild 1166 01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,480 Speaker 2: videos on Instagram. I just DM you all these videos 1167 01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:39,360 Speaker 2: all day. Yeah, so now my algorithm is so fucked 1168 01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:41,760 Speaker 2: and I get these things that are like look at 1169 01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:44,400 Speaker 2: this actor's hands and it's just like a supercut of 1170 01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:49,440 Speaker 2: like hands. And I'm like, y'all are too horny. 1171 01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:52,440 Speaker 1: You need the You need the gentle touch of a 1172 01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:56,400 Speaker 1: stethoscope on your back, Like get out of the house 1173 01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:59,840 Speaker 1: and go get touched, just very gently. 1174 01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:05,680 Speaker 2: Go to your gynecologist, get a surprise shocker, get it 1175 01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:07,880 Speaker 2: out of your fucking system. I know you haven't been, Like, 1176 01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:10,880 Speaker 2: it's the fucking pandemic and you haven't been touched, Go 1177 01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:14,840 Speaker 2: get touched, get a massage something. People are so horny. 1178 01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:17,240 Speaker 2: But yeah, he's also I mean dominal Gleeson is a 1179 01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:21,200 Speaker 2: great just absolutely a great career. He was in Ex 1180 01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:25,040 Speaker 2: Machina and this. He was just in a really good 1181 01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:28,200 Speaker 2: TV show on Hulu called The Patient. But he's just 1182 01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:31,120 Speaker 2: kind of an interesting weirdo, like he just kind of 1183 01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:33,560 Speaker 2: chooses different roles. You never know what he's gonna do next, 1184 01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:36,480 Speaker 2: and he kind of I don't know, I just think 1185 01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:38,800 Speaker 2: he's he's he's one of he's a smarter actor. He's 1186 01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:41,160 Speaker 2: one of the smarter actors who choose things that are cool. 1187 01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:43,280 Speaker 1: Well, and I definitely, now knowing what I know about 1188 01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:46,600 Speaker 1: the movie, he definitely seems like John Ronson's Avatar or something, 1189 01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:48,480 Speaker 1: you know what I mean for this experience. 1190 01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:53,439 Speaker 2: So and his dad is Brendan Gleason, I mean king, 1191 01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:55,880 Speaker 2: I mean, they look you're good. You're gonna go and 1192 01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,439 Speaker 2: research this movie now after you've watched it and after 1193 01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:00,480 Speaker 2: we've recorded, and you're your mind is gonna be blown. 1194 01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:04,360 Speaker 1: I know, I can't wait. I so, I know you 1195 01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:07,479 Speaker 1: don't want to reveal it. I could go another hour 1196 01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:09,040 Speaker 1: about who's underneath that head? 1197 01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:15,520 Speaker 2: I know I could too, but I want people to 1198 01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:17,320 Speaker 2: watch it without knowing. 1199 01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:23,280 Speaker 1: Well, listen, this was honestly like a really good just 1200 01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:26,400 Speaker 1: press play because, like I said, I went and completely blind. 1201 01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:31,080 Speaker 1: I curbed my impulse to research and it definitely paid off. 1202 01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:33,680 Speaker 1: Like I was definitely like, what the fuck is about 1203 01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:34,680 Speaker 1: to happen in this movie? 1204 01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:38,240 Speaker 2: Will we will do this theme again? Because I really 1205 01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:41,640 Speaker 2: like pushing you and challenging you in that way to 1206 01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:44,720 Speaker 2: like not do the oral history the research beforehand, and 1207 01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:47,680 Speaker 2: just see what you think about something that is a 1208 01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:49,280 Speaker 2: little bit that you don't know anything about. 1209 01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:52,880 Speaker 1: And this is definitely a U movie through through and through. 1210 01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:56,760 Speaker 1: I was like, this is Danielle sign Seal delivered what 1211 01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:02,920 Speaker 1: is a me movie? Just genuinely weird moments involving people 1212 01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:08,440 Speaker 1: from the UK Like A I was like, Okay, this 1213 01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:12,240 Speaker 1: is like exactly what like what Danielle is all about? 1214 01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:15,640 Speaker 2: Like that's what anytime I'm just imagine that anytime I'm 1215 01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:18,120 Speaker 2: alone in my house, I'm watching something like that, something weird. 1216 01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:20,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, if it's a weird movie involving 1217 01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:24,320 Speaker 1: somebody from either Britain or Ireland or Scotland or something 1218 01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:26,960 Speaker 1: else like bring it on over. 1219 01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:31,400 Speaker 2: My fucker wheelhouse. Well your movie, your movie is very you. 1220 01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:40,160 Speaker 1: Oh god, that is disturbing. Ah, I can't wait to 1221 01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:44,000 Speaker 1: talk about this. Well shit, I mean, let's just get 1222 01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,880 Speaker 1: into it, because this is gonna be I don't even 1223 01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:47,400 Speaker 1: know what to say. 1224 01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:47,880 Speaker 2: Uh. 1225 01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:50,040 Speaker 1: I was definitely trying to push your buttons. Let's just 1226 01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:50,440 Speaker 1: say that. 1227 01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:55,480 Speaker 2: Oh you push something, you pushed me, I bet so. 1228 01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:59,760 Speaker 1: Uh. My movie for the theme, Just Press Play is 1229 01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:02,200 Speaker 1: a film from nineteen seventy three. It was written by 1230 01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:05,040 Speaker 1: Abe Polski. It was directed by Ted Post and it's 1231 01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:06,000 Speaker 1: called The Baby. 1232 01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:07,440 Speaker 2: You should have let them take you. 1233 01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:11,960 Speaker 1: Oh you're not talking about that circus. They wanted to 1234 01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:14,400 Speaker 1: put him in a sideshow. We should have said, yes, 1235 01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:17,680 Speaker 1: you're calling your brother a freak. 1236 01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:21,160 Speaker 2: I just thought it'd be. 1237 01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:27,959 Speaker 1: Better that way. Oh okay, So I So I wrote 1238 01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:32,040 Speaker 1: about this movie for my book because it is truly 1239 01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:35,560 Speaker 1: one of the strangest movies I've ever seen. Oh yeah, okay, 1240 01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:37,680 Speaker 1: And a lot of what I'll keep going back to 1241 01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:42,600 Speaker 1: is just getting your thoughts because you're you've never had 1242 01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:44,000 Speaker 1: you heard of this movie before. 1243 01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:46,200 Speaker 2: I'd never heard of it. I'd only heard of it 1244 01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:50,120 Speaker 2: from your book. Okay, I've never seen it, Okay, perfect, 1245 01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:54,920 Speaker 2: and when I press play, within ten minutes, my world 1246 01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:56,200 Speaker 2: was rocked. 1247 01:05:56,600 --> 01:06:01,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's one of these movies I feel like, I mean, 1248 01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:04,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if i'd call it a handshake movie necessarily, 1249 01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:05,920 Speaker 1: but it's one of these things where it's like, do 1250 01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:07,760 Speaker 1: you want to get one of your friend's real good 1251 01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:09,880 Speaker 1: you want to make them watch this like really weird 1252 01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:13,240 Speaker 1: movie like put on the Baby, because that's kind of 1253 01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:16,360 Speaker 1: how it was presented to me. Was that sounds like, 1254 01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:19,840 Speaker 1: you know, oh, you're into weird stuffing you like the baby, 1255 01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:23,560 Speaker 1: and I'm like what's the baby? And they're like, oh god, 1256 01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:29,440 Speaker 1: you're not even ready trap the fucking bitch. And I'm like, okay. 1257 01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:31,520 Speaker 1: You know, I always feel like, okay, that's a lot 1258 01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:33,640 Speaker 1: of pomp and circumstance. A lot of times people say 1259 01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:35,600 Speaker 1: that shit, and it's like I watched the movie and 1260 01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:39,640 Speaker 1: I'm like falling asleep within fifteen minutes. No, no, no, this 1261 01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:41,120 Speaker 1: one delivered for me. 1262 01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:43,480 Speaker 2: And did you watch it alone the first time you 1263 01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:44,960 Speaker 2: watched it or did you watch it with the person 1264 01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:46,320 Speaker 2: that was like you have to watch this. 1265 01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:50,320 Speaker 1: I watched it by myself. I rented the DVD and 1266 01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:55,960 Speaker 1: was like, what a fucking weird movie? Like why? And 1267 01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:59,680 Speaker 1: it's even weird on top of the fact that it 1268 01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:02,640 Speaker 1: was market it as an exploitation movie, Like for an 1269 01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:05,800 Speaker 1: exploitation movie, this movie is weird. 1270 01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:09,760 Speaker 2: Right, absolutely, And I had so many questions when I 1271 01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:12,840 Speaker 2: was watching it about how did it get made? Like 1272 01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:14,360 Speaker 2: how how did this movie come to be? 1273 01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:15,320 Speaker 1: Yes? 1274 01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:16,840 Speaker 2: Because it's so weird. 1275 01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:19,680 Speaker 1: Yes, And see here's so here's the thing. I'm gonna 1276 01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:21,920 Speaker 1: just the one sense synopsis for this film, just so 1277 01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:24,919 Speaker 1: we can orient you right off the bat. Okay, it's 1278 01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:29,600 Speaker 1: very simple. Three women raise a grown man who acts 1279 01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:30,280 Speaker 1: like a baby. 1280 01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:32,280 Speaker 2: Could not have said it better. 1281 01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:36,200 Speaker 1: That's the gist of the film, right. So of course, 1282 01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:37,960 Speaker 1: you know when you see something like this, you're like, 1283 01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,240 Speaker 1: what is the story here? I And when I was 1284 01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:41,800 Speaker 1: writing the book, I was doing a lot of research 1285 01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:43,600 Speaker 1: on it, and I could not find a lot of 1286 01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:46,480 Speaker 1: information about the person who wrote it, Abe Polski. Right 1287 01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:50,320 Speaker 1: when you go to his IMDb, he's got like about 1288 01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:53,280 Speaker 1: eight writing credits. A lot of them are for TV, 1289 01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:56,960 Speaker 1: but then just a couple of like strange movies, nothing 1290 01:07:57,040 --> 01:08:00,680 Speaker 1: like super popular or anything. But it's like the thing 1291 01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:02,479 Speaker 1: about it I mean I went down the rabbit hole. 1292 01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:05,000 Speaker 1: When I was I was like, can we, you know, 1293 01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:08,440 Speaker 1: hire a private investigator find out who this guy is? 1294 01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:13,120 Speaker 1: I mean it was just short of that, basically family members. 1295 01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:15,320 Speaker 2: We go dig into Lexus nexus. 1296 01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:18,160 Speaker 1: But yeah, so I you know, I was really like 1297 01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:21,439 Speaker 1: trying to find something about because how could you write 1298 01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:24,240 Speaker 1: a movie like this and not be out there? Like 1299 01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:27,160 Speaker 1: somebody had to have tried to ask him. So we 1300 01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:30,439 Speaker 1: had the concept for this movie, right, what's that about? 1301 01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:34,160 Speaker 1: And yet I could not find any nothing. If somehow 1302 01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:37,320 Speaker 1: you're out there and you figured out something about him, 1303 01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:39,320 Speaker 1: email us at a saw what she did, put at 1304 01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:41,519 Speaker 1: gmail dot com because it's fast. I'm fascinated and I 1305 01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:43,960 Speaker 1: want to know. But I will tell you this. The 1306 01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:50,240 Speaker 1: director of this film, okay, is Ted Post who you know. 1307 01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:54,839 Speaker 1: He actually had a very long career. He directed tons 1308 01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:59,360 Speaker 1: of TV, so he'd done like gun Smoke, Perry Mason. 1309 01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:02,680 Speaker 1: He had done a few movies prior to The Baby, right, 1310 01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:05,400 Speaker 1: so he did like Hang Them High with Clint Eastwood. 1311 01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:08,559 Speaker 1: He directed like the second Planet of the Apes movie. 1312 01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:14,719 Speaker 1: But honestly, nothing like this movie. Nothing like nothing ever again? Right, 1313 01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:18,880 Speaker 1: and if you get the arrow Blu Ray of the Baby. 1314 01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:21,280 Speaker 1: They did a Blu ray a few years ago. There's 1315 01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:24,280 Speaker 1: a great like phone interview with him in the special 1316 01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:27,519 Speaker 1: features where he he himself the director of this movie 1317 01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:30,519 Speaker 1: is like, Yeah, this is pretty much the weirdest movie ever. 1318 01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:34,640 Speaker 1: And I read the script and the reason why I 1319 01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:37,600 Speaker 1: made it is because it was genuinely just the nuttiest 1320 01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:40,400 Speaker 1: thing I'd ever heard, Like he oh good. And I 1321 01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:44,439 Speaker 1: find that fascinating because it's like, imagine like being a 1322 01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:46,360 Speaker 1: director to be like, oh, I just you know, direct 1323 01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:49,320 Speaker 1: episodes of gun Smoke and you know, fucking Perry Mason, 1324 01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:52,719 Speaker 1: and I'm just like a real, like you know, long 1325 01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:56,960 Speaker 1: haul like career director and I'm just gonna randomly decide 1326 01:09:57,000 --> 01:10:01,800 Speaker 1: to direct a movie about an adult baby, and like. 1327 01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:04,120 Speaker 2: I can't believe nobody asked him, like what was in 1328 01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:07,640 Speaker 2: it for you? Yeah? Like why? Why? What was in 1329 01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:08,080 Speaker 2: it for you? 1330 01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:11,200 Speaker 1: Right? And you see you frequently, you know, when you're 1331 01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:14,719 Speaker 1: traversing these like cult movie streets, you know, you will 1332 01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:17,240 Speaker 1: read like the backstory on a lot of stuff and 1333 01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:19,960 Speaker 1: you will be like, oh this, like sixty five year 1334 01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:24,280 Speaker 1: old director of television did the garbage Pail Kids movie, 1335 01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:27,240 Speaker 1: and he did it for money. He did it for money, 1336 01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:30,960 Speaker 1: and he did it for like Director's Guild insurance, and I. 1337 01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:33,519 Speaker 2: Had to keep that insurance and keep those those creds going. 1338 01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:36,160 Speaker 1: That's right. And you're like, I see, you make sense. 1339 01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:39,280 Speaker 2: This is how Lorraine Bronco ended up in fuck. I 1340 01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:42,040 Speaker 2: think how Loraine Brocko ended up in Hackers. She's like, 1341 01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:43,680 Speaker 2: I gotta keep that SAG card. 1342 01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:48,600 Speaker 1: Yes, and listen, hats fucking off. Anything you gotta do 1343 01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:50,960 Speaker 1: to get that bag. I get it. But it's a 1344 01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:54,840 Speaker 1: thing of like I think it sounds like, you know, 1345 01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:57,679 Speaker 1: based on what I've heard in this interview and other things, 1346 01:10:57,680 --> 01:10:59,519 Speaker 1: and every that Ted post was just like, yeah, let's 1347 01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:01,519 Speaker 1: just make a weird movie. I don't know, this seems weird. 1348 01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:02,120 Speaker 1: I'll do it. 1349 01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:03,600 Speaker 2: Why in the movie. 1350 01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:07,400 Speaker 1: If it pays any money, fine, And he was actually 1351 01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:10,120 Speaker 1: the one that brought in Ruth Roman to play you 1352 01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:13,640 Speaker 1: know Missus Wadsworth, who's like the mother of baby I 1353 01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:16,840 Speaker 1: mean Ruth Roman, you know, classic movie actress. You know 1354 01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:19,120 Speaker 1: she's she's been around for a long time, and you 1355 01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:21,479 Speaker 1: know a lot of this movie too, is it kind 1356 01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:25,360 Speaker 1: of I would categorize it as a Grand dom guiin 1357 01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:30,080 Speaker 1: y'all movie, you know, Psycho biddy ha exploitation. You know, 1358 01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:32,080 Speaker 1: I think we know why. There's a lot of like 1359 01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:37,200 Speaker 1: a lot of like older women trapping characters, and that 1360 01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:42,200 Speaker 1: is a very common theme of of those types of movies. 1361 01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:46,559 Speaker 1: But you know, she was like, you know, basically like 1362 01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:50,519 Speaker 1: brought in to be this character, and I was reading 1363 01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:54,320 Speaker 1: that he was basically like telling the actors like, I 1364 01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:57,880 Speaker 1: know you're gonna think this is weird, but we're going 1365 01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:01,479 Speaker 1: to make these characters sympathetic and real and it's not 1366 01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:05,680 Speaker 1: going to be this complete fucked up scenario like you 1367 01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:08,160 Speaker 1: will be taken care of, which I actually think is 1368 01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:13,439 Speaker 1: pretty cool. Right. Do you think they achieve that? It's 1369 01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:19,040 Speaker 1: hard to say, but I'm just saying they have good intentions, right. 1370 01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:19,720 Speaker 1: It seems the. 1371 01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:23,599 Speaker 2: Intention is very cool. I'm not sure they landed that trick, 1372 01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:27,599 Speaker 2: but the intention behind it is very cool, and it 1373 01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:29,680 Speaker 2: does have a different vibe to it when you think 1374 01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:32,240 Speaker 2: of it in that way, like it does. These are 1375 01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:34,160 Speaker 2: characters that do have agency. 1376 01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:37,880 Speaker 1: Sure, sure, absolutely, And that's because this is the thing. 1377 01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:42,120 Speaker 1: It is very unclear I think with the actual situations 1378 01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:45,200 Speaker 1: with baby, right, and we'll get into it a little 1379 01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:46,800 Speaker 1: bit when we kind of plow through the synopsis a 1380 01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:49,880 Speaker 1: little bit, but like there are times where you're like, wow, 1381 01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:53,200 Speaker 1: this is kind of fucked up. But I think that 1382 01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:59,600 Speaker 1: the the party line of the film is that he 1383 01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:03,200 Speaker 1: does not have like a true developmental condition, and he's 1384 01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:05,719 Speaker 1: just basically a grown man who's living as a baby. 1385 01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:06,200 Speaker 2: Now. 1386 01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:11,599 Speaker 1: We don't know why. Necessarily, we know that the family 1387 01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:15,559 Speaker 1: is incredibly protective of him in a way that keeps 1388 01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:17,920 Speaker 1: him away from like third parties, so that maybe that 1389 01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:21,080 Speaker 1: there is a family secret going on. And we know 1390 01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:24,280 Speaker 1: that his sister shocks him with a cattle fraud, and 1391 01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:26,080 Speaker 1: we know that he gets locked in the closet, so 1392 01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:29,240 Speaker 1: maybe there is something, but it's you know, that's the 1393 01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:32,160 Speaker 1: thing is that it's a gray area, you know, if 1394 01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:35,200 Speaker 1: that makes sense, if that could make sense at all. 1395 01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:38,760 Speaker 2: He's been pushed into this role and kept in this 1396 01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:43,400 Speaker 2: role for so long that if there is anything developmental 1397 01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:47,160 Speaker 2: going on, it's because he hasn't been allowed to actually develop, 1398 01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:50,320 Speaker 2: you know, Like you can see how having been treated 1399 01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:53,160 Speaker 2: this way for his whole life, he literally doesn't know 1400 01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:55,240 Speaker 2: any better, right because. 1401 01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:59,519 Speaker 1: And thankfully there is a lot of those parts in 1402 01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:02,760 Speaker 1: the film where you know, there's there's conversations between the 1403 01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:05,560 Speaker 1: social workers about like what's going on here, you know, 1404 01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:08,400 Speaker 1: And I feel like if you didn't have that, it 1405 01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:12,840 Speaker 1: would be a little eh like yeah, yeah, But here's 1406 01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:14,519 Speaker 1: the thing, So let me let me kind of give you, 1407 01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:18,320 Speaker 1: like the basic gist of the story. Right. You have 1408 01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:22,640 Speaker 1: this social worker named Anne and she's played by an 1409 01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:25,680 Speaker 1: Jeanette Kohmer. At the beginning of the movie, she does 1410 01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:29,840 Speaker 1: like this home visit to this family named the Wadsworths. Okay, 1411 01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:34,559 Speaker 1: the Wadsworths are composed of three women. There's a mother 1412 01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:37,519 Speaker 1: who is played by, like I said, the incredible Ruth Roman, 1413 01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:42,000 Speaker 1: and her two grown daughters named Jermaine and Alba. And 1414 01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:44,840 Speaker 1: they are played by Maryanna Hill and Susanne zan Orr. 1415 01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:48,080 Speaker 1: And they have a son. She has a son. They 1416 01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:53,040 Speaker 1: have a brother simply named Baby, and he is played 1417 01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:58,160 Speaker 1: by David Mansey. Okay, and the thing is at the beginning, 1418 01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:01,720 Speaker 1: you and tell that the family has been visited by 1419 01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:05,400 Speaker 1: social workers many times over the years, right, including the 1420 01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:08,520 Speaker 1: last one who has apparently just disappeared. 1421 01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:12,759 Speaker 2: I mean, wait, any job where you're like, the person 1422 01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:15,240 Speaker 2: who used to do your job is gone, we don't 1423 01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:18,040 Speaker 2: know what happened to them. You leave that family alone? 1424 01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:23,640 Speaker 1: Yes, it's a very dun dun dune situation, right, And 1425 01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:26,880 Speaker 1: and comes in and she's very positive. She's like she's 1426 01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:34,200 Speaker 1: got very thin eyebrows, very thin, like almost nineties eyebrows. 1427 01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:37,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, life, yes, And. 1428 01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:42,040 Speaker 1: She's very like, you know, positive, like Hi, I'm just 1429 01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:44,080 Speaker 1: here to you know, help you guys out. I'm I'm 1430 01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:47,639 Speaker 1: a new social worker, and uh, you know. And missus 1431 01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:51,000 Speaker 1: Wisworth is basically like, you know, yeah, it's cool, like 1432 01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:53,840 Speaker 1: you guys come every six months, no big deal. Then 1433 01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:58,719 Speaker 1: the two daughters come in to introduce themselves, and they're 1434 01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:04,840 Speaker 1: very hot and hippie adjacent in a very seventies exploitation way, right, 1435 01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:07,800 Speaker 1: Like you've seen this before in those in these types 1436 01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:11,080 Speaker 1: of movies, these seventies exploitation movies. Like one daughter is 1437 01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:15,680 Speaker 1: this like blonde pigtail like russ Meyer type, and the 1438 01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:18,040 Speaker 1: other one is kind of like a hot freak girl 1439 01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:22,040 Speaker 1: with like big hair and eyeliner. You know, it's like 1440 01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:23,840 Speaker 1: they're the two hot. 1441 01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:28,439 Speaker 2: Daughters that hair. Yes, Dormaine's hair goes through some changes 1442 01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:30,960 Speaker 2: in this film, and each of them worse than the last. 1443 01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:36,000 Speaker 1: Yes, her party seeing hair is very She's got a 1444 01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:42,280 Speaker 1: very sisters of mercy esque. Look, she's got the look. 1445 01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:48,080 Speaker 1: They both do. They both do, right, But basically, you know, 1446 01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:50,920 Speaker 1: the family is sitting there with Anne and their base 1447 01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:55,320 Speaker 1: and Anne's going like, who's the father? What's going on 1448 01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:59,120 Speaker 1: with baby? And Missus Wadsworth and media is like Baby's 1449 01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:03,320 Speaker 1: dad ran off and he was a weak man, no character, 1450 01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:08,120 Speaker 1: and apparently all the kids in the family have different 1451 01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:11,840 Speaker 1: fathers and they have all fucked off. Right, So imagine, 1452 01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:14,679 Speaker 1: I mean this is the setup for the grand dom 1453 01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:18,280 Speaker 1: GHI y'all character, the Missus Wadsworth character, because she's basically like, 1454 01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:21,400 Speaker 1: all the guys in my life have fucked off. I 1455 01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:24,679 Speaker 1: hate men. You know, this is this is the setup 1456 01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:29,200 Speaker 1: for this kind of thing, right, Yeah, So cut to 1457 01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:33,040 Speaker 1: the baby reveal, right, because at first you don't know. 1458 01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:35,559 Speaker 1: You're like, are they talking about an actual baby? 1459 01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:36,280 Speaker 2: No, they're not. 1460 01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:41,439 Speaker 1: He gets revealed and he is a grown man who 1461 01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:43,840 Speaker 1: was sleeping in a crib and is wearing diapers and 1462 01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:44,479 Speaker 1: baby clothes. 1463 01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:48,040 Speaker 2: Okay, now how old do we think the baby is? 1464 01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:53,960 Speaker 1: I thought about this because he's old enough to have 1465 01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:56,559 Speaker 1: kind of like beatles mop top hair. 1466 01:17:57,280 --> 01:17:59,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would. 1467 01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:03,080 Speaker 1: Say twenty seven. What do you think there? 1468 01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:05,840 Speaker 2: I would think early thirties, just because of how many 1469 01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:08,720 Speaker 2: social workers have visited and how often they visited, like 1470 01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:12,200 Speaker 2: at least early thirties. But it's hard to tell. He's 1471 01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:15,000 Speaker 2: just a grown man in a crib and a huge crib. 1472 01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:20,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, oversized crib. It's like the incredible shrinking woman type 1473 01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:25,000 Speaker 1: of stuff, right, like giant furniture. So I had to 1474 01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:28,240 Speaker 1: ask you, like, what were you thinking when you saw this? 1475 01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:32,679 Speaker 2: I was thinking it was gonna pivot to porn very quickly. Yes, yes, 1476 01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:36,400 Speaker 2: because that is all I know about adult babies is 1477 01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:41,040 Speaker 2: it is a cake. And I'm like, I don't want 1478 01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:42,960 Speaker 2: to see any of these people fucking anybody. 1479 01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:47,840 Speaker 1: And see that goes back to, like I think the 1480 01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:50,960 Speaker 1: big gray area question about what's going on here? For real? 1481 01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:58,920 Speaker 1: There's a sexual vibe in this movie, right, Like we'll 1482 01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:00,960 Speaker 1: get to it in just a second, because there's like 1483 01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:05,360 Speaker 1: this infamous scene with a babysitter that is too outrageous. 1484 01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:07,040 Speaker 1: I can't even think about it. 1485 01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:09,240 Speaker 2: And it happened so early in the movie that I'm like, Oh, 1486 01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:11,160 Speaker 2: is that what this movie is gonna be about? Right? 1487 01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:16,800 Speaker 1: And this is kind of I think what was kind 1488 01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:20,360 Speaker 1: of the way that it was promoted as an exploitation 1489 01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:24,880 Speaker 1: or like a shock exploitation movie where it's like, imagine 1490 01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:27,719 Speaker 1: a man who's a baby and he's got these two 1491 01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:30,920 Speaker 1: hot sisters that walk around in booty shorts around him 1492 01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:33,759 Speaker 1: and blah blah blah. You know, you're just like, okay, 1493 01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:39,760 Speaker 1: like this is grindhouse trash, right. But the weirdest part 1494 01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:42,960 Speaker 1: to me is that, so you're you're watching the scene, 1495 01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:45,000 Speaker 1: you get the reveal and you're like, holy fuck, you 1496 01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:47,200 Speaker 1: sco about on what's actually happening, and you're like, oh, 1497 01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:50,080 Speaker 1: this is an actor who has to act like a 1498 01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:53,519 Speaker 1: baby for this role, which is very bizarre, and he 1499 01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:56,679 Speaker 1: is pretty much going four broke in this role. 1500 01:19:57,400 --> 01:20:01,439 Speaker 2: This sounds are interesting too, like the yes, I will 1501 01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:04,799 Speaker 2: let you talk about that, but like seeing him acting 1502 01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:07,200 Speaker 2: as the baby and then hearing the sounds of the baby, 1503 01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:10,599 Speaker 2: it's so incongruous and like off putting. 1504 01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:16,880 Speaker 1: Yes, it's wild, it is definitely, because here's the thing. Initially, 1505 01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:23,559 Speaker 1: the actor was apparently making his own baby noises as 1506 01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:28,280 Speaker 1: he was playing the role of baby, and apparently it 1507 01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:31,880 Speaker 1: was too weird, so they went in and dubbed in. 1508 01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:37,360 Speaker 1: So apparently they went in and dubbed in real baby noises. 1509 01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:41,719 Speaker 1: And I guess he's just lip syncing to the baby noises. 1510 01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:45,400 Speaker 2: I'm having a hard time imagining anything being too weird 1511 01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:45,840 Speaker 2: for this. 1512 01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:48,880 Speaker 1: Movie, I know well, And I gotta say, maybe it's worse. 1513 01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:52,559 Speaker 1: Is it worse that a gold Man is lip syncing 1514 01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:55,519 Speaker 1: baby noises being made by a real baby or doing 1515 01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:59,320 Speaker 1: his own right? I mean, maybe it's six and one 1516 01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:01,120 Speaker 1: hand and half that's in the end. I don't know, 1517 01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:04,519 Speaker 1: but it is very bizarre that this, any of it 1518 01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:08,360 Speaker 1: is happening. Obviously. Also, I gotta say, like, the next 1519 01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:12,519 Speaker 1: scene after this, after the reveal, is Missus Wadsworth is 1520 01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:16,000 Speaker 1: lotioning baby's legs. And remember when you said that lotioning 1521 01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:19,120 Speaker 1: your legs was not self care and was for serial killers. 1522 01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:22,880 Speaker 1: I think you're right. After seeing this scene, I was like, 1523 01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:25,840 Speaker 1: I changed my mind. It's not it's weird, it's not 1524 01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:26,439 Speaker 1: self care. 1525 01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:29,920 Speaker 2: Thank you. Every time you see someone lotioning from this 1526 01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:33,080 Speaker 2: point on, you're gonna be like, m yeah, serial killer. 1527 01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:37,559 Speaker 1: Absolutely. So So you know this is so Anne knows 1528 01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:40,160 Speaker 1: this now, and then she just sort of starts coming 1529 01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:42,960 Speaker 1: over the house more. She's kind of becomes obsessed with 1530 01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:44,800 Speaker 1: the case. She's going over there multiple times a week. 1531 01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:46,439 Speaker 1: I mean, her own bosses are like, why are you 1532 01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:48,280 Speaker 1: going over there so much? You've got all these other cases, 1533 01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:50,519 Speaker 1: and she's like, I can't help, but it's just so fascinating. 1534 01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:53,960 Speaker 1: Blah blah blah blah. Also, the social worker, as she's 1535 01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:57,120 Speaker 1: getting to know the family, they're they're like asking her, so, 1536 01:21:57,160 --> 01:22:00,320 Speaker 1: who are you? What's your story? And apparently she has 1537 01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:03,680 Speaker 1: a husband, but it's very unclear as to whether he's 1538 01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:07,080 Speaker 1: alive or dead or around. It's very she changes her 1539 01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:12,120 Speaker 1: story a lot, So now you're starting to feel like, okay, 1540 01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:16,479 Speaker 1: this and woman, what's her deal? Right? Like, she's come 1541 01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:21,600 Speaker 1: in as that altruistic like social worker, but she seems sketched. 1542 01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:24,759 Speaker 2: Too, and she gets real sus. 1543 01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:28,920 Speaker 1: So we're gonna cut to this babysitter scene because it 1544 01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:31,679 Speaker 1: just has to be talked about. This is what sends 1545 01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:33,760 Speaker 1: the movie over the fucking edge for me, where I'm 1546 01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:35,439 Speaker 1: just like, this is the one of the weirdest movies 1547 01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:38,760 Speaker 1: I've ever seen. So the Wadsworth ladies go out on 1548 01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:41,600 Speaker 1: the town and they hire this babysitter. She is a 1549 01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:44,960 Speaker 1: grown woman and at a certain point she's like chatting 1550 01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:47,719 Speaker 1: on the phone. She goes up to baby's room. Baby's 1551 01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:52,120 Speaker 1: like being fussy, and at some point she like takes 1552 01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:54,919 Speaker 1: him out of the crib and then. 1553 01:22:56,280 --> 01:23:01,200 Speaker 2: Starts breast beating him and he initiates it, which is 1554 01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:04,360 Speaker 2: why I'm like, he's us too, acting like a baby. 1555 01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:11,120 Speaker 1: Yep, oh yeah, oh yeah, And it is very disturbing 1556 01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:18,919 Speaker 1: and weird even to this dads like yo, like no, no, no, no, no, 1557 01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:19,800 Speaker 1: please don't. 1558 01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:22,760 Speaker 2: She's like, she's like, don't do that, baby now. And 1559 01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:24,720 Speaker 2: I'm like, uh, this is where I think it's gonna 1560 01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:25,320 Speaker 2: get into porn. 1561 01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:29,879 Speaker 1: Yes, oh yeah, this is gonna be some some fetish 1562 01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:34,080 Speaker 1: shit in a in a second, in a hot second. 1563 01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:39,320 Speaker 1: So luckily it doesn't reach that point because the Wadsworth 1564 01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:41,960 Speaker 1: women come home, they see what the fuck is going on, 1565 01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:44,920 Speaker 1: and then they just kick her fucking ass like they're 1566 01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:48,479 Speaker 1: like Ruth Rowman is like punching this woman in the face. 1567 01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:53,800 Speaker 2: This is also where the movie took a turn for me, 1568 01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:57,639 Speaker 2: because I'm like, why, Like they are very violent, violent, 1569 01:23:57,840 --> 01:24:01,360 Speaker 2: very volatile, yes, and are you protective of this this 1570 01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:04,719 Speaker 2: man baby? Like what is going just again? Layer leveled 1571 01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:06,519 Speaker 2: up on the in terms of the layers of the 1572 01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:08,200 Speaker 2: questions that I now had. 1573 01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:12,040 Speaker 1: Oh one hundred percent and that that's kind of like 1574 01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:15,760 Speaker 1: I was expecting like a text of my own from 1575 01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:18,960 Speaker 1: you being like why have you made me watch this depraved, 1576 01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:25,240 Speaker 1: fucking oddball bullshit, But like, you know, you hung in there. 1577 01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:26,559 Speaker 1: I'm I'm very proud of you. 1578 01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:27,680 Speaker 2: I hung in. 1579 01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:31,680 Speaker 1: But so there's a lot going on then too after this, 1580 01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:34,679 Speaker 1: because essentially, you know, you realize that he is actually 1581 01:24:34,760 --> 01:24:37,479 Speaker 1: being abused by his family, which is like fucked up, 1582 01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:40,160 Speaker 1: and you're like, well, then okay, maybe they're like kind 1583 01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:43,240 Speaker 1: of forcing him to stay a child for some strange 1584 01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:45,640 Speaker 1: reason and we don't know why. And so there's it 1585 01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:48,880 Speaker 1: gets a little murky, and then you know, and the 1586 01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:53,120 Speaker 1: social worker is starting to try to, you know, introduce 1587 01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:55,120 Speaker 1: the idea of sending him to a home that he 1588 01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:58,720 Speaker 1: needs to be looked after, and Wadsworth's are like, fuck this, 1589 01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:02,559 Speaker 1: shut it down. They kind of start icing her out right, 1590 01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:06,080 Speaker 1: although at a certain point they actually have a birthday 1591 01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:10,439 Speaker 1: party for baby and it is like, imagine this, So 1592 01:25:10,479 --> 01:25:13,240 Speaker 1: they have a birthday party for a baby and it's 1593 01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:15,840 Speaker 1: like a wild angel's hippie party. 1594 01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:18,799 Speaker 2: Exactly where like how do you know these people? 1595 01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:22,679 Speaker 1: Also, if you notice, I don't know if anyone notices 1596 01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:25,559 Speaker 1: this the babysitter is at the party. 1597 01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:29,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, so they kick her ass. She shows up and 1598 01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:30,760 Speaker 2: I'm like is it? And that made me think, like 1599 01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:32,800 Speaker 2: is this a cult? It's like they're all in on 1600 01:25:32,840 --> 01:25:34,679 Speaker 2: this baby thing, right. 1601 01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:38,479 Speaker 1: I was like, well, you got the invite, Like I 1602 01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:43,320 Speaker 1: guess it wasn't that bad exactly, Like they just broke 1603 01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:45,320 Speaker 1: your nose. But then you're like, sure, I'll come to 1604 01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:46,320 Speaker 1: this party. Is all good? 1605 01:25:46,479 --> 01:25:49,040 Speaker 2: Like I gotta go to this party because Dennis the 1606 01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:51,400 Speaker 2: self proclaimed skin freak is gonna be there. 1607 01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:58,599 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Talk about serial killer and a skin 1608 01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:00,360 Speaker 1: freak is a little uh, you. 1609 01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:02,559 Speaker 2: Know, I'm just a skin freak. And I'm like, you 1610 01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:03,639 Speaker 2: need to say more about that. 1611 01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:07,519 Speaker 1: Can we just make a sequel called skin Freak and 1612 01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:08,439 Speaker 1: it just be about. 1613 01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:11,960 Speaker 2: You, ah me debunking self care? 1614 01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:15,880 Speaker 1: Yes? Well, and like, so what happens at the party 1615 01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:18,800 Speaker 1: is that the fucking you know, Anne shows up. The 1616 01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:21,360 Speaker 1: social worker shows up to the party, and they ended 1617 01:26:21,400 --> 01:26:23,360 Speaker 1: up like drugging her drink and they tie her up 1618 01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:26,679 Speaker 1: and put in the crawl space, right, and baby wanders 1619 01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:29,400 Speaker 1: into the crawl space and somehow she gets free. By 1620 01:26:29,439 --> 01:26:32,960 Speaker 1: the way, I was her sequence where she's like trying 1621 01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:36,799 Speaker 1: to undo her you know, her straps or whatever the rope. 1622 01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:39,800 Speaker 1: I was like, damn, it would be great to be 1623 01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:41,920 Speaker 1: like all little so you could just like wiggle out 1624 01:26:42,040 --> 01:26:43,680 Speaker 1: of your you know how. She like she had her 1625 01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:45,479 Speaker 1: hands tied behind her back. When then she like was 1626 01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:47,880 Speaker 1: able to tuck her feet into the hole and then 1627 01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:50,760 Speaker 1: was like I'm free. I'm like, I can never do that, Like, 1628 01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:54,000 Speaker 1: I'm not built that way. If I was a life 1629 01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:57,439 Speaker 1: social worker, I could do that in no time, But. 1630 01:26:57,800 --> 01:26:59,479 Speaker 2: It would take me at least three weeks to stretch 1631 01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:02,040 Speaker 2: these hammies even attempt it. 1632 01:27:02,560 --> 01:27:04,600 Speaker 1: I was like, you know, I got bad mees. I 1633 01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:07,840 Speaker 1: can't bend for that long. Fuck that. But then like 1634 01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:11,600 Speaker 1: so basically, you know, she escapes and then she like 1635 01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:17,280 Speaker 1: takes baby away, right, And here's the thing, so I'm 1636 01:27:17,320 --> 01:27:19,920 Speaker 1: not gonna like completely give away the rest of the movie. 1637 01:27:19,960 --> 01:27:23,240 Speaker 1: I will say that she kidnaps baby or I guess 1638 01:27:23,640 --> 01:27:28,160 Speaker 1: takes baby away to her house. Okay, she has this 1639 01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:32,040 Speaker 1: mother in law that's there. It's very unclear what the 1640 01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:35,639 Speaker 1: deal is with them. But then the Wasworth women come 1641 01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:37,800 Speaker 1: to try to get him back, and then all hell 1642 01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:42,559 Speaker 1: just truly breaks loose, Like it just becomes really crazy. 1643 01:27:43,160 --> 01:27:45,439 Speaker 2: And one thing I did love about this movie going 1644 01:27:45,479 --> 01:27:48,519 Speaker 2: in blind like, I like that it had so many 1645 01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:52,120 Speaker 2: different twists. Yes, Like I had a lot of turns, 1646 01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:54,040 Speaker 2: a lot of like what's gonna happen? Why are they doing? 1647 01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:57,640 Speaker 2: Like and questionable things, not not in a way that 1648 01:27:57,720 --> 01:27:59,839 Speaker 2: was confusing, but just in a way that was very interesting. 1649 01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:02,559 Speaker 2: I wanted to keep watching to figure out, like what 1650 01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:03,960 Speaker 2: is actually going on here? 1651 01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:10,519 Speaker 1: Yes? Absolutely, because there's the idea of that unreliable narrator, right, 1652 01:28:10,640 --> 01:28:13,000 Speaker 1: so you have like the person that you think is 1653 01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:18,719 Speaker 1: going to be the the one that saves the baby 1654 01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:22,360 Speaker 1: from something, but then you're like, but now she's sus 1655 01:28:22,720 --> 01:28:24,479 Speaker 1: And I don't know how to feel about this. And 1656 01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:26,720 Speaker 1: I think that's great because it turns it into kind 1657 01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:29,799 Speaker 1: of like a like a kind of a mystery horror 1658 01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:33,839 Speaker 1: type of thing. And it's not like the weird adult 1659 01:28:34,360 --> 01:28:36,479 Speaker 1: baby porn that you maybe thought. 1660 01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:39,120 Speaker 2: It was going to be, right, They really they really 1661 01:28:39,240 --> 01:28:42,080 Speaker 2: veered away from it, and to their credit, like you said, 1662 01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:43,760 Speaker 2: they may even think like this is a mystery, this 1663 01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:45,640 Speaker 2: is the horror. There are other things to focus on 1664 01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:48,800 Speaker 2: after a while, where the adult baby is like, oh 1665 01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:53,160 Speaker 2: yeah he's there, Yeah, what's going on with this part? Well? 1666 01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:56,599 Speaker 1: And I do think part of that is because of 1667 01:28:56,840 --> 01:29:00,519 Speaker 1: the director. I think Ted Post Right, It's almost like, yes, 1668 01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:03,960 Speaker 1: you could have easily had this movie being made by Herschel, 1669 01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:07,759 Speaker 1: Gordon Lewis or some like very like you know, classic 1670 01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:11,320 Speaker 1: cult movie director, right, and it would be the baby 1671 01:29:11,320 --> 01:29:13,799 Speaker 1: porn like, it would be the like, you know, adult 1672 01:29:13,880 --> 01:29:17,120 Speaker 1: man in diapers who is you know and and his 1673 01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:22,280 Speaker 1: two like grindhouse hottie sisters. Okay, but I think that 1674 01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:25,599 Speaker 1: Ted Poe's being sort of the like kind of like 1675 01:29:25,640 --> 01:29:28,160 Speaker 1: cult movie outsider that he was, who had a lot 1676 01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:33,040 Speaker 1: of practice making television and very contained stories, was like, well, 1677 01:29:33,080 --> 01:29:35,760 Speaker 1: I can make this a real movie, like I you know, 1678 01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:37,639 Speaker 1: as much as there is a lot of creepy shit 1679 01:29:37,720 --> 01:29:39,599 Speaker 1: going on, He's like, oh I can we can figure 1680 01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:42,599 Speaker 1: this out. And I think that that is sort of 1681 01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:46,320 Speaker 1: like great because it says it, I think, from devolving 1682 01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:51,880 Speaker 1: too too much, even though it is truly bizarre, like 1683 01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:53,559 Speaker 1: it's just a bizarre film. Right. 1684 01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:55,760 Speaker 2: Is definitely to his credit that he was able to 1685 01:29:55,800 --> 01:29:59,240 Speaker 2: do that, but it is a weird movie, yes. 1686 01:29:59,160 --> 01:30:03,160 Speaker 1: And I I'm really proud that you stuck with it, 1687 01:30:03,240 --> 01:30:06,560 Speaker 1: because I mean, I will say this when I programmed 1688 01:30:06,560 --> 01:30:09,120 Speaker 1: it for TCM, like the first time, Like this was 1689 01:30:09,120 --> 01:30:11,960 Speaker 1: probably like ten or so years ago. I remember one 1690 01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:18,080 Speaker 1: of our producers who essentially he wasn't working on underground stuff. 1691 01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:19,759 Speaker 1: He was just kind of like a guy that works 1692 01:30:19,800 --> 01:30:22,200 Speaker 1: on other things and he's no longer with the company. 1693 01:30:22,240 --> 01:30:26,040 Speaker 1: But he came up to me and was like, so, 1694 01:30:26,120 --> 01:30:29,760 Speaker 1: I saw this movie called The Baby last night and 1695 01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:35,000 Speaker 1: I just heard that you programmed it. And I have 1696 01:30:35,080 --> 01:30:39,360 Speaker 1: to say, like, that is the weirdest, strangest thing that 1697 01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:42,400 Speaker 1: has ever aired on the network. And I don't even 1698 01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:44,360 Speaker 1: know what to say. Like he just was like, you know, 1699 01:30:44,520 --> 01:30:46,839 Speaker 1: he had so many questions. 1700 01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:47,679 Speaker 2: He had so many. 1701 01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:49,240 Speaker 1: Questions, but he was kind of giving me a look 1702 01:30:49,280 --> 01:30:56,439 Speaker 1: like what's potentially wrong with you? You know so? And 1703 01:30:56,680 --> 01:30:58,200 Speaker 1: it was all in good fun. I mean, he just 1704 01:30:58,240 --> 01:31:01,320 Speaker 1: doesn't It seemed to me that he was not interested 1705 01:31:01,360 --> 01:31:04,639 Speaker 1: in movies like this, and I loved kind of giving 1706 01:31:04,720 --> 01:31:07,160 Speaker 1: him the shocker, if you will, so. 1707 01:31:10,120 --> 01:31:11,760 Speaker 2: The shock of his life. He's like, let me try 1708 01:31:11,840 --> 01:31:14,200 Speaker 2: on this channel I work for where we program all movies. 1709 01:31:14,360 --> 01:31:18,960 Speaker 1: What But like I said, there's actually like a great 1710 01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:22,240 Speaker 1: blu ray of it. It has tons of special features. 1711 01:31:21,600 --> 01:31:25,120 Speaker 1: It's a great way to see it. And yeah, I 1712 01:31:25,960 --> 01:31:27,800 Speaker 1: just had to bring it to the table this week 1713 01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:31,120 Speaker 1: because you were telling me the concept of just press 1714 01:31:31,160 --> 01:31:33,280 Speaker 1: play and I was like, well, there's only one I can. 1715 01:31:33,160 --> 01:31:35,799 Speaker 2: Think of, So it could not have been more perfect. 1716 01:31:35,920 --> 01:31:37,519 Speaker 2: And I don't know that I would have ever watched 1717 01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:39,360 Speaker 2: this movie in any other context. But that's what I 1718 01:31:39,439 --> 01:31:41,879 Speaker 2: love about not just this pod, but about our friendship 1719 01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:45,240 Speaker 2: is that I'm constantly exposed to films that I might 1720 01:31:45,280 --> 01:31:47,960 Speaker 2: not ever have seen. Yeah, and I like having the 1721 01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:52,759 Speaker 2: context for this film and watching it without knowing anything 1722 01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:55,960 Speaker 2: about it really heightened a lot of the mystery and 1723 01:31:56,000 --> 01:31:58,960 Speaker 2: the drama, and it made me really have to focus 1724 01:31:59,000 --> 01:32:01,280 Speaker 2: in and pay attention to things that were going on 1725 01:32:01,360 --> 01:32:04,559 Speaker 2: behind the scenes and kind of it was a puzzle 1726 01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:06,439 Speaker 2: for me to try to guess what was happening. And 1727 01:32:06,479 --> 01:32:07,360 Speaker 2: I kind of like that too. 1728 01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:10,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, no, that's great. I love that we challenge 1729 01:32:10,280 --> 01:32:13,640 Speaker 1: each other and I don't know, like, this theme is 1730 01:32:13,680 --> 01:32:14,160 Speaker 1: really fun. 1731 01:32:14,240 --> 01:32:16,000 Speaker 2: We have to do it again, I mean, we've got 1732 01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:16,559 Speaker 2: to do this again. 1733 01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:21,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think we find like a little devilish pleasure 1734 01:32:21,400 --> 01:32:24,920 Speaker 1: in freaking each other out, So why not just put 1735 01:32:24,920 --> 01:32:27,080 Speaker 1: it out in the open, continue the tradition. 1736 01:32:27,320 --> 01:32:30,280 Speaker 2: And look, we've watched over two hundred movies together already, 1737 01:32:30,320 --> 01:32:32,680 Speaker 2: like we got to mix it up sometimes for ourselves. 1738 01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:40,040 Speaker 1: Absolutely, absolutely, Oh my gosh, so fun. Well, if you 1739 01:32:40,080 --> 01:32:42,200 Speaker 1: want to email us for any reason, we are at 1740 01:32:42,280 --> 01:32:44,240 Speaker 1: I Saw What You Did pot at gmail dot com. 1741 01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:46,800 Speaker 1: Please send us questions if you have them. 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Plus if you want to get our episodes, 1760 01:33:35,120 --> 01:33:38,240 Speaker 2: our new episodes a week early, but eventually all those 1761 01:33:38,240 --> 01:33:41,000 Speaker 2: old bonus episodes are going to be up on the main. 1762 01:33:40,880 --> 01:33:46,240 Speaker 1: Feed, absolutely, Danielle, do you want to tell the folks 1763 01:33:46,320 --> 01:33:48,519 Speaker 1: what the movies for the next episode are? 1764 01:33:49,040 --> 01:33:52,080 Speaker 2: Oh? I do? I do? And I don't know if 1765 01:33:52,080 --> 01:33:54,840 Speaker 2: you're going to guess the theme. I don't think so. 1766 01:33:57,200 --> 01:34:00,679 Speaker 2: But the movies for next week are all those Encounters 1767 01:34:00,720 --> 01:34:03,720 Speaker 2: of the Third Kind from nineteen seventy seven and all 1768 01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:05,680 Speaker 2: that Jazz from nineteen seventy nine. 1769 01:34:06,560 --> 01:34:09,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is gonna be really tough. I just have 1770 01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:10,960 Speaker 1: to say it's. 1771 01:34:10,760 --> 01:34:12,680 Speaker 2: Gonna be a good episode, though. I can't wait to 1772 01:34:12,720 --> 01:34:14,439 Speaker 2: talk about these with you me neither. 1773 01:34:14,800 --> 01:34:17,720 Speaker 1: Listen, Danielle, always a fucking pleasure doing this podcast with you. 1774 01:34:18,520 --> 01:34:20,799 Speaker 2: I love it. Let's high five to these new doctors 1775 01:34:20,800 --> 01:34:21,719 Speaker 2: we got in our lives. 1776 01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:27,519 Speaker 1: That's right, Oh see you next time, everybody by. 1777 01:34:34,840 --> 01:34:37,879 Speaker 2: This has been an exactly right production produced by Casey O'Brien, 1778 01:34:38,080 --> 01:34:40,639 Speaker 2: mixed by Edson Choi. Our theme song is by Tom 1779 01:34:40,680 --> 01:34:44,439 Speaker 2: bry Fogel. Artwork by Garrett Ross. 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