1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 2: This is the almost Famous podcast. We have a very 4 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 2: special guest on, somebody that we just enjoy and we 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 2: got to see on this season of The Bachelor. She 6 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 2: I've booked out four hours for this interview because I 7 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 2: just feel like once we start talking, we could never stop. 8 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 2: That's kind of fun, Demmy, don't worry about it. We 9 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 2: actually have like thirty thirty minutes, so it's fine, Demmy. 10 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 2: Welcome to the podcast. 11 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 3: No, oh my gosh. So Debbie, tell us just about 12 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 3: like your day to day life right now. How are 13 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 3: you doing? Because you just told us before getting on 14 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 3: the podcast and it was funny. 15 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, first of all, Ben, is that a strawberry 16 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 4: banana Prime? 17 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 2: It is? 18 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 3: I just got them sent to me en they send them. 19 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,959 Speaker 3: They send so much prime to our house. And Jared's 20 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 3: sass and then he loves being at the gym and 21 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 3: like taking pictures of it. 22 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 4: I like the hydration drinks because they're like nice because 23 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 4: it's like, oh, better than water, I guess. But the 24 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 4: energy drinks I don't drink them, so I just have 25 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 4: these heavy boxes of it. 26 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,479 Speaker 3: Those are the same situation. Over here. 27 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've got two on top of my fridge. I'm keeping. 28 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 4: I've got the Alani Kimmid. I'm keeping that one. 29 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 3: Just count Yeah, the kim Maid is super cute. 30 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 4: Wow. 31 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 3: We have the same people sending us stuff and they 32 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 3: and why do they? Because here we are in a 33 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 3: podcast talking about that. 34 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 4: Hey, everyone that comes over, I'm encouraging them to drink 35 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 4: that Prime. I'm like, get it out of my house. 36 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 4: You want to take a box home? 37 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 2: But it is good. 38 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 4: The energy drinks are Actually whenever I do drink them, 39 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 4: I sound super cracked out, like I get I'm talking, 40 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 4: but I have a lot of fun on it, on it, 41 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 4: on it, on the Prime. 42 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 2: Well this is a good segue though, because if you 43 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 2: drink an energy drink, Here's a question I have for 44 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 2: you that just came to my mind that now I'm 45 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 2: super curious about it. If I don't ask it, I'll 46 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 2: be really upset. Do you crochet faster on energy drinks 47 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 2: or not? Ps. 48 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 3: She told us before the podcast started that she likes 49 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 3: to watch reality TV, scroll and read the gossip on 50 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 3: her Instagram and then she does it all walle crocheting. 51 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 4: Yes, And I do more than just on Instagram, I'm 52 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 4: looking on Twitter, I'm looking at Reddit. I don't look 53 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 4: at the Bachelor Reddit, but I'm in every other teeks 54 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 4: the reality TV show reddit. Just taking it all in 55 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 4: and also taking it all with a grain of salt, 56 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 4: because like, I know how reality TV works, and I 57 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 4: know that a lot of the time what we're seeing 58 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,239 Speaker 4: isn't exactly what went down, or like a lot of 59 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 4: the time I was prompted by someone to like, you know, 60 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 4: they ask a question and they tell you to answer 61 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 4: the question by saying the question first. So like, I 62 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 4: can see how a lot of people get set up 63 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 4: all the time and whatever. But I also like, this 64 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 4: is what I did before I went on The Bachelor, 65 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 4: minus the crocheting, and it helped me really well at 66 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 4: reality TV. So I like to think that, like, while 67 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 4: I'm crocheting and watching reality TV and looking at the 68 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 4: gossip and seeing what people like, don't like, et cetera, 69 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 4: I'm working. I am working. 70 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 3: Your preparing for a new show. 71 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 4: That's right, I am. And with the crocheting, I get 72 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 4: like a fun creative outlet and it's really fun to 73 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 4: share online and it's challenging and it's cool. 74 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, So do you crochet faster on energy drinks or not. 75 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 4: Well, I don't drink enough energy drinks to really know, 76 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 4: Like I don't take energy drinks to crochet, but I 77 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 4: mean I would imagine I probably would. Maybe I'd probably 78 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 4: get a little shaky. 79 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, tried out some time. Let us know how it goes. 80 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 2: I'm curious, Demy. We saw you on this season of 81 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 2: the Bachelor, and that's why I want to start here, 82 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 2: because we have a lot to get into with you 83 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 2: personally and kind of what's going on in your life. 84 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 2: We haven't gotten to talk to you in a while, 85 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 2: but you were on this season of the Bachelor. You 86 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 2: did host a date with one of my favorite people 87 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 2: from season twenty of The Bachelor, Jubilee. Tell us about it. 88 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 2: How was it to be back on camera? Was it exciting? 89 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 2: And honestly, DEMI like, how did how did you and 90 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 2: Jubilee get into this? 91 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 4: Like? 92 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 2: How did that happen? 93 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 4: I totally forgot Jubilee was on your season. That is 94 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 4: so funny. I love Jubilee. We met that day and 95 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 4: we just we we both just got text asking us, 96 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 4: you know, if we wanted to do an episode, and 97 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 4: they were gonna pay us, so we both were like absolutely, 98 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 4: and so when we met, I mean I immediately just 99 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 4: kind of leaned on her, like, you know, like she 100 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 4: was my buddy, Ashley. You know how I am. 101 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 3: I need buddy, yeah, a. 102 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 4: Safe person to cling to. So Jubilee became that for 103 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 4: me very quickly, and I think I became that for 104 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 4: her too, because you know, like on your season, you 105 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 4: saw everyone was trying to like dim her light and 106 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 4: for like for anyone to shine, like you gotta shine 107 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 4: like with them, you know, So like I was encouraging 108 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 4: her to like have fun with it. So I feel 109 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 4: like I provided a safe place. She provided a safe place, 110 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 4: and we got to both be ourselves and have the 111 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 4: best day ever. Like I'm not kidding you guys. I 112 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 4: wish I could work like that every day. I wish 113 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 4: that was my job. I just had so much fun 114 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 4: because I think I'm so comfortable with the crew, I 115 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 4: know everyone. I feel like I'm not going to get 116 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 4: in trouble for like anyone. No one's gonna yell at 117 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 4: me there. So like I just am having so much fun. 118 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 4: And I have an earpiece, so like in case I 119 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 4: messay anything up, it's easy to fix. Like it's just 120 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 4: everything about it was fun. Aana wasn't worried about, you know, 121 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 4: not getting a rose or anything. 122 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's always really nice to be on set and 123 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 3: not have that fear. Were you on the Canadian VIP? 124 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah I did. I went there and hosted something too. 125 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 3: How'd that go? 126 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 2: How was that? 127 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 3: In like a whole different country? And like having a 128 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 3: cast that you're not really familiar with. 129 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 4: It was wonderful because the Canadian like crew and everything. 130 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 4: They're just so nice. I mean, like ours are really 131 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 4: nice too, but they somehow they are even nicer. Like 132 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 4: I feel safe with our production with a Bachelor people 133 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 4: like I just got done saying that. And these Canadian people, 134 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 4: I never met them before, and they were just I 135 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 4: could do no wrong, you know. They were so sweet 136 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 4: to me, and they were like that to everyone. It 137 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 4: was really chills, really nice and I had a great time. 138 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 4: It was actually insane whenever I walked in to the 139 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 4: or walked down to the lake beach whatever it was, 140 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 4: And as I walked in, like a hurricane came with me. 141 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 4: Like it was like a gust of wind that was 142 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 4: so massive, so much power behind it, that it blew 143 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 4: chairs into the lake. Chairs were on fire. I mean 144 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 4: everything is blowing everywhere, were on fire, on fire, things 145 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 4: were catching on fire. My top broke open, so my 146 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 4: titties are flailing like I it was. It was magic. 147 00:06:59,640 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 3: It was. 148 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 4: It's like, holy crap. 149 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 3: It was the introduction you love to have. 150 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 4: Yes, it was so on brand, but I just couldn't 151 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 4: believe it. Feel I couldn't believe it happened. Everyone was 152 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 4: in shock, and I just didn't think it got enough 153 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 4: credit for how eerie. It was like, just how cool 154 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 4: it was that I really came in with a force 155 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 4: of nature. 156 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 2: Did it air? 157 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 4: Yes? It air. 158 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 2: That aired like you walking down everything popping out, stuff 159 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 2: flying around, fires getting started. This is how it aired. 160 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 4: This is how it aired. 161 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 2: Oh goodness to me, you are made for TV. 162 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 4: It was like the universe was affirming that to me. 163 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 4: Like I was very validated in that moment, and I 164 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 4: was like, surely after this, everyone's going to be wanting 165 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 4: to pick me up for shows. 166 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 2: All right, Well, that's what I want to get into 167 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 2: next with you. You've made it very clear that you 168 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 2: like being on television, that it's a place that you 169 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 2: feel comfortable, that you feel confident, that you feel like 170 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 2: in a lot of ways you were made for and 171 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 2: that your personality doesn't really change, it might even heighten 172 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 2: when the cameras get rolling. Now, let's say that the 173 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 2: Bachelor franchise is off limits and you've done what you've done, 174 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 2: it's gone now for you. What shows are out there 175 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 2: that you know of that you're dreaming of being a 176 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 2: part of, or maybe even a show that you have 177 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 2: in your mind that's not created yet that you feel 178 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 2: like you'd be perfect on. 179 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 4: Okay, well, I think that maybe maybe, like if I 180 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 4: want to stay another reality show like The Traders, being 181 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 4: on The Traders would be cool. I just I don't know. 182 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 4: I don't know if I can handle it, but I 183 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 4: think that I would be cool. 184 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 3: We did an entire interview with Peter Webber and it 185 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 3: sounds like really intense, and I truly find myself confused 186 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 3: watching it. I'm like, wait, what is going on? 187 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 4: Love? I love it. 188 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 2: You're smarter than me. 189 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 3: I'm like, this is a puzzle piece. 190 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 4: I listened to all the Traders podcasts. I'm obsessed with 191 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 4: the Trader. But I'm also you have to understand, I'm 192 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 4: massive fans of every single person on there, Like this 193 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 4: is a all star castic. I love Big Brother. The 194 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 4: only thing is like, I don't know the Housewives. I 195 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 4: don't get I have not gotten into the Housewives yet. 196 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 3: You like competition, Yes, yes. 197 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 4: I like seeing people's dreams getting crushed. But I also 198 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 4: like seeing like an underdog win. I like, I just 199 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 4: love every bit of the competition. So maybe I wouldn't 200 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 4: want to do Maybe I probably I don't know if 201 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 4: I would want to do something like Big Brother Survivor 202 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 4: because again, the stress, the lying, the betrayal, I'm not 203 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 4: I'm not big into that, but I think that what 204 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 4: I deserve is you know that, you know how they 205 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 4: had that show catching Kelsey. Yeah, we need it. We 206 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 4: need a demi version of that. I don't know what 207 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 4: it would be, but we need it because I am 208 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 4: so single and it's so painful, and like, I can't 209 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 4: figure out why people aren't jumping all over me, you know. 210 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,319 Speaker 3: I mean, you look like our human Barbie. 211 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 4: I don't know either exactly exactly, like what more do 212 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 4: they want from me? And and people will be like, yeah, 213 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 4: there's probably people trying to hit you up. I'm like, yeah, 214 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 4: people that like in the like, we we do not 215 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 4: match up together at all, Like it's not not me 216 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 4: just trying to be shallow, but like, it's not anyone 217 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 4: who's in my dating pool, like and I'm and I'm 218 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 4: being My dating pool is very big. I would say, 219 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 4: I'm going all the way down to fives. I'm taking 220 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 4: a glance at five's these days, but I'm getting all 221 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 4: the d ms from below fives, Like that's come on, 222 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 4: I mm hmm. That's just I'm not willing to settle 223 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,839 Speaker 4: on that one. I think it's because then I would 224 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 4: become I just I would never be attracted to them, 225 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 4: and so that wouldn't be fair to them. 226 00:10:55,679 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 3: You are super open about your diagnosis with autism and ADHD. 227 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 3: Have you ever watched the show Love on the Spectrum? 228 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 4: Yeah, I did, and I thought that it's cute. It's 229 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 4: like I have mixed feelings about it, just as the 230 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 4: internet does. Like it's sweet and stuff, but there's also 231 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 4: like a lot of infantilizing, you know, like in fanalizing, 232 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 4: like treating them like they're like babies, okay, and a 233 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 4: lot of the time, like you know, I love Abby. 234 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 4: I love Abby so much. 235 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 3: I've never seen it, but I know that I have 236 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 3: people in my life that really love it. 237 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 4: Exactly because it's sweet, but it's also like sweet because 238 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 4: they're kind of treating among babies, which I know that 239 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:48,479 Speaker 4: like I sometimes want, but like I I don't, Uh, 240 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 4: I wouldn't want that force on me and not having 241 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 4: to be the narrative, you know, it's like wait, wait, wait, 242 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 4: still it's still an adult. But also like Abby, I 243 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 4: love Abby, but I'm also like, is Abby consenting to 244 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 4: all of this? Like Abby's mom needs to leave Abby alone? 245 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 4: Like she's just always recording Abby doing everything or like Abby, 246 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 4: you know, just little simple things that Abby doesn't because 247 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 4: like she does them her way and not the way 248 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 4: that she's supposed to buy society, and then she's like 249 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 4: recording it, making a viral video out of it, and 250 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 4: I mean maybe Abby's fine with it whatever, but for me, 251 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 4: it's like I think that's encouraging people to like do 252 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 4: more of that, recording children constantly like like that, like 253 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 4: showing off, like look, how weird my kid is. She's 254 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 4: doing this weird thing. 255 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 2: It's like a little exploitive. It can be at times. Yeah. 256 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 2: Abby is a character on Love on the Spectrum, which 257 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 2: is become a very popular reality show and a lot 258 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 2: of people I think watched it, and they are now 259 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 2: starting to And I don't necessarily di me. I'd love 260 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 2: for you to argue with me. I don't necessarily find 261 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 2: it a bad thing that now people are starting to 262 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 2: form an opinion on if they like it or not. 263 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 2: Like I I think at first it was new and 264 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 2: shocking and like something that they were curious about. And 265 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 2: as seasons have continued, I think now people are educated, aware, 266 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 2: and now they're forming their opinions, which I think is 267 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 2: a helpful step to become more I guess aware of 268 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 2: you know, what it is like to live on the 269 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 2: spectrum and to find love on the spectrum. 270 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I haven't watched the newest season, so I don't 271 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 4: know what range of autistic characters they have, you know, 272 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 4: So like I don't know, because the part of beating 273 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 4: the stereotype isn't just like loving I mean, of course 274 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 4: loving autistic people and like autistic people finding love, yes, 275 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 4: but like the stereotype too, is like what it looks like. 276 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 4: And I feel like they're trying they try to sometimes 277 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 4: just show how it looks in one way, and that's 278 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 4: by like santalizing. I'm saying that word wrong. I think 279 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 4: a person and you know what I mean, and and so. 280 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:11,079 Speaker 2: That are you saying Do you mean sensatializing? 281 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 3: No, I think she means, and I think it makes sense. 282 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 3: She's there trying to treat them younger than they are. 283 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that okay, that yes, that does make sense. 284 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 2: I honestly wasn't aware of the words. So you were 285 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 2: throwing words out there. I was like, I'm guessing she's 286 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 2: saying something that I makes sense. 287 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 4: To mean. 288 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 2: So in your dating life, you just mentioned that you 289 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 2: want to be dating that you know that you're putting 290 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 2: yourself out there when you're on a date, Like how 291 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 2: quickly are you talking about like your diagnosis and kind 292 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 2: of how you live your life and what people can 293 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 2: expect out of you or are you holding it back 294 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 2: or are you super upfront and confident. Now, it's just. 295 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 4: Rich of you to assume that I've been on a date. 296 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 2: I mean, there's no way you haven't been on a 297 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 2: date since you came out publicly. 298 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 4: No, I have not, no way, No, I spared. The 299 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 4: only thing that's happened is like, in the past month, 300 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 4: I hung out with one guy. I've had him by hangout, 301 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 4: I mean he comes over for a few hours, and 302 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 4: goes home and that's up and comes up. I know 303 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 4: it's a great, great deal with me. I love that. 304 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 4: And he is also autistic and he's also like in 305 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 4: reality TV, so like a date like kind of but 306 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 4: like we were just hanging out of my house and 307 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 4: talking about like our special interests. But like I might, 308 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 4: I've been sell a bit for two years, like I won't. 309 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 4: I'm not having sex. 310 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 2: I'm not by choice. 311 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, since I stopped drinking, I really I went back 312 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 4: to like my old high school ways of being a prude. 313 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 4: Just just I don't know, I just I I don't 314 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 4: know what it is. I think that I'm just kind 315 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 4: of disgusted I ever, like not just because but just 316 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 4: even like the act of it is disgusting, like our 317 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 4: bodily fluids, like touching each other, Like have they washed 318 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 4: their hands? Am I gonna have to ask them? Like 319 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 4: brush your teeth? Like all of these things that I'm 320 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 4: just like it's not worth it to me. Whereas when 321 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 4: I was drunk, I don't really care about all that stuff. 322 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 4: But now that I'm not, I am very weird about 323 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 4: all of that. And I can get turned off like 324 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 4: so easily because of a smell so I'm being so 325 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 4: vulnerable right now. 326 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 2: I'm I actually didn't know you would stop drinking. I 327 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 2: don't know if like you publicly had announced this, But 328 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 2: so you've been sober now for two years. 329 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, so you're gonna have almost it'll be three years 330 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 4: in July. 331 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 2: That's a big deal. Like it has it been a 332 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 2: I mean for anybody that's listening who's maybe considering that 333 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 2: journey or are going down it, has it been a 334 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 2: good thing? I mean I'm assuming there's no negatives to it, 335 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 2: but like what kind of good stuff is coming from it? 336 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been great. I would say the best thing 337 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 4: is being able to well, not being sick, like not 338 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 4: feeling sick, not feeling like you're dying. That was the 339 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 4: worst part for sure, Like I always felt like I 340 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 4: was dying in the anxiety. Like, don't get me wrong, 341 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 4: I still have anxiety, but it's not about dying from drinking. 342 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 3: I mean like being super hungover. 343 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, but like I mine went from like being super 344 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 4: hungover to where I was like I can't take this, 345 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 4: and then hair the dog drink more and then I 346 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 4: never stopped, so I just every day and then I 347 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 4: just got myself into this like terrible habit. And I 348 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 4: didn't want to be drinking anymore, but I had to 349 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 4: because if I didn't, I was gonna get sick. I 350 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 4: was gonna get violently ill and get the shakes. And 351 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 4: so actually, whenever I did stop drinking, I posted about 352 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 4: this on my Instagram. But Natasha was at my house 353 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 4: and she stayed the night with me, and I drank, 354 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 4: and I drank the night before. But then the next 355 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 4: morning I was like, Hey, Natasha, I have to tell 356 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 4: you something. I have a really bad drinking problem and 357 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 4: I want to stop drinking today. Can you please just 358 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 4: stay with me and make sure that I don't die 359 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 4: because I'm gonna get thick. And she was like, of course, 360 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,719 Speaker 4: of course. And so then I immediately just started yacking 361 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 4: and like I couldn't stop. And so she was like, 362 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 4: all right, you're either going to go to rehab or 363 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 4: we're calling the ambulance. And I said, call the ambulance. 364 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 4: I can't go to rehab. I have a house full 365 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 4: of animals. Like that's not realistic for me. Just call 366 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 4: the ambulance. So call the ambulance. They come over here. 367 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 4: They undermine all my pain, and they undermine everything going 368 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 4: on about me, and he's just like, you're gonna be fine. 369 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 4: It's gonna suck for a couple of days, You'll be okay, buddy, whatever, 370 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 4: And so they leave and then a few hours later, 371 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 4: Natasha was about to leave, and right before she left, 372 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 4: I started having seizures so that we had to call 373 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 4: the ambulance again and like I don't remember any of that, 374 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 4: and the ambulance came back to me in the hospital 375 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 4: and I was in the hospital for a few days, 376 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 4: and that was honestly, like the best ever was being 377 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 4: in the hospital because I didn't have to go through 378 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 4: the withdrawals of it like alone, like I had medication 379 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 4: and help. Like the alcohol withdraws are the worst along 380 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 4: with I think like Heroin, Like they're like the worst 381 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 4: with withdrawals you can have. And it's literally like okay 382 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 4: in euphoria, you know, whenever like Real is having her withdrawals, 383 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 4: I think she's having withdraws or she's like really sick 384 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 4: or something, but she's just like ah, like can bear, 385 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 4: Like she looks like she's dying, and I'm like, this 386 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 4: is literally exactly how it is. Like it's just it's awful. 387 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 4: So once I once I got out of the hospital. 388 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, I'm I'm not sick anymore, like 389 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 4: my I don't feel ill, I don't feel like I'm 390 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 4: gonna vomit, and I don't feel like super weak like 391 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 4: I did. But I was like, I feel better. And 392 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 4: then I was like, yeah, I'm not gonna drink anymore, 393 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 4: like I'm gonna die if I do. Probably, like I 394 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 4: I think that maybe one day, like if I have 395 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 4: a spouse, I'll be like, you know, you can make 396 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 4: give me a glass of wine in Italy or something 397 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 4: and just make sure that I I don't want to 398 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 4: be in charge of any of my own alcohol, but 399 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 4: like you know, maybe something like that. But it just 400 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 4: the thought of it still makes me sick, Like I 401 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 4: just feel like, oh, I just know I'm going to 402 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 4: feel bad the next day, like I don't even I'm 403 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 4: not tempted because of it. 404 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 2: So first off, I want a shout out to Natasha Parker, 405 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 2: I'm assuming from the show right, Yes, yes, what a 406 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 2: good friend, I mean, what an. 407 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 4: Angel, Like she not only did she get me to 408 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 4: the hospital, like she contacted everyone that I needed to, 409 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 4: like on my phone, because like I was like passed out, 410 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 4: you know, and so she was like calling my parents 411 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 4: making sure my animals were taken care of. Like she 412 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 4: just really went above and beyond and took care of me. 413 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 4: And I just felt so safe in that whole situation, 414 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 4: like I knew that she had me, and yeah, I 415 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 4: don't know, It's just one of the most amazing things 416 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 4: anyone could ever do for someone, Like she saved my life. 417 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 4: And I don't know what would have happened if she 418 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 4: wasn't here whenever if I started seizing, you know, like. 419 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 2: Big deal, and it's for her. 420 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 4: She's an incredible person. As if we all didn't know, 421 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 4: like blown me away. 422 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 2: Obviously, you've had some big changes in your life over 423 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 2: the last couple of years, and these changes have all 424 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 2: been really positive for you. But you did say that 425 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 2: you stay in your house often right that you're watching TV, 426 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 2: that you've taken up this great like hobby of crusheng, 427 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 2: which I think super cool. I saw the quill that 428 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 2: you made the other day, which I was beautiful, like 429 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 2: absolutely beautiful, and the time and the technique and yeah, 430 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 2: like the difficulty and the complexity of that to turn 431 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 2: into something so great is so cool. But you are 432 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:52,199 Speaker 2: in your house more often and I'm wondering why, Like, 433 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 2: is it because now you know there is a little 434 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 2: social anxiety? Is it because you just prefer it? It's 435 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 2: a safe space, Like why are you finding yourself? Kind 436 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 2: of like hunkering down more than ever. 437 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:09,199 Speaker 4: Definitely social anxiety. And I had social anxiety like my 438 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 4: whole life. But the way that I thought I had 439 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 4: beat it was like once I started drinking in college, 440 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 4: Like the reason I love alcohol so much or loved 441 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 4: it is because it is a cure for my social anxiety. 442 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 4: It helped me be myself on the Bachelor, helped me 443 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 4: be able to be who I was without fear, which 444 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 4: now I still have those skills because I can still 445 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 4: channel that part of me, like I know how to 446 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 4: I know how to get into that mode now because 447 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 4: you know, I had this crutch that helped me in 448 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 4: the beginning. And it's harder though, because now I do 449 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 4: have the not in my stomach of anxiety that doesn't 450 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 4: go away. You know that I have to be like 451 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 4: what do I need to do to help me feel 452 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 4: safer in this moment so the social anxiety will go away? 453 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 4: And it's usually like I just need somebody who I'm 454 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 4: like joking around with are like keeping a like up. 455 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 4: I'm just someone I feel safe with and who I'm 456 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 4: never gonna cross the line with, you know, like they 457 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 4: know who I am. They know that I don't mean 458 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 4: any harm. Like even if I say bad joke, they'll 459 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 4: be like they won't make me feel like a terrible 460 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 4: person for it, you know, like just a really safe person. 461 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:24,199 Speaker 4: And yeah, so now it's like I can't have a 462 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 4: buddy on me at all times to go do things 463 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 4: Like I have my dog, so I do walk my dog, 464 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 4: so like I get my outside exercise whatever, my good 465 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 4: exposure to the outdoors. But the social anxiety is it 466 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 4: can just get to be too much if I don't 467 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 4: have a buddy, and even if I do have a buddy, 468 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. The other day, I was at Casavega 469 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 4: with my mom and my friend Piper, and we had 470 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 4: been eating for a while and then there was this 471 00:23:54,480 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 4: table of like ten like fifty sixty year old white nails, 472 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 4: and so you know, that's just kind of intimidating to 473 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 4: begin with, Like just went show you know, uh, happy 474 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 4: to you probably coming off of work laughing. They're running 475 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 4: the world. So I'm sitting there and out of nowhere. 476 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 4: I hear one of them being like, wasn't she I'm 477 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,719 Speaker 4: the bachelor, And I just look up and every table 478 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 4: that's around us is now staring at me. And I 479 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 4: immediately am like stop subs sop soup zuh blah blah, 480 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 4: like I have a panic attack. And I'm just like 481 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 4: and I'm like, mom, pay the check, let's cool, let's go. 482 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 4: Like I'm so scared right all my way out. He's 483 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 4: yelling never watching that show again. And I'm like, one, 484 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 4: I don't care. Two me either. At three, I'm just 485 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 4: but three, like I am scared. I'm not trying to 486 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 4: be rude. I'm so freaking terrified my guy, like everyone 487 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 4: who's looking at me like I don't know, Like I 488 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 4: just wasn't prepared for it. I don't know what happened. 489 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 4: But situations like that or why I don't want to 490 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 4: leave the house because they, I mean, they just always 491 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 4: are having like. 492 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 3: Anyways, the social anxiety is tied to the autism. What 493 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 3: when you got the autism diagnosis? Were you going to 494 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,959 Speaker 3: a doctor psychiatrist? And then did you feel like how 495 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 3: was it discovered and how long did it take to diagnose? 496 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 3: And sorry for the multi part question, but like how 497 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 3: kind of relieving was it for you to get answers 498 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:27,959 Speaker 3: about just your personality? 499 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I so it's a neuropsychologist and you have to 500 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 4: do an autism evaluation. It's very expensive and insurance I 501 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 4: don't even know if they cover it. Most of them 502 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,199 Speaker 4: don't take insurance. It's just it's very hard to get 503 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 4: diagnosed as an adult. So I went to a neuropsychologist 504 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 4: who specializes in autism and women, and she's a woman, 505 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 4: and we did it was all over zoom. But it 506 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 4: was for like two weeks. I don't even know how 507 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 4: many sessions, like somewhere from like four to eight sessions, 508 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 4: and every time we talked it was for multiple hours. 509 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 4: Then she also I had to get questionnaires filled out 510 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 4: from my parents, and I gave it to my granny 511 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 4: as well, because she was around me a lot whenever 512 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 4: I was a kid. And also she had a zoom 513 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 4: call with my friend without me, so she could like 514 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 4: talk to my friend without me and like you know, 515 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 4: ask her the questions. So it took it took a 516 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 4: while to get it. I would say though, like two weeks, 517 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 4: maybe maybe more like a month because it was probably 518 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 4: like we started and then we made the appointment for 519 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 4: two weeks you know, and then all of that. But 520 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 4: it's it takes a long time. It's a long process, 521 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 4: and it's expensive, and it's only worth it to me 522 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:02,199 Speaker 4: because I needed it to be I will too, like, uh, 523 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 4: like nobody would have believed me without it, right, and 524 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 4: so how would I be able to help all the 525 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 4: women who feel the same way as me if I 526 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 4: didn't have that like proof, you know, if I didn't 527 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 4: have any credibility like that, Like uh, I I needed 528 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 4: like it to feel better for myself as well, because 529 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 4: of course in my mind, I'm like, it's probably just 530 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 4: not but maybe it's like not autism, like you know, 531 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,199 Speaker 4: maybe it can't be. But yeah, So after I did 532 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 4: all of this evaluating and we were done, I was like, 533 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 4: we had another follow up meeting and I was like, so, 534 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 4: like what is it? She was like, dimmy, you're definitely autistic. 535 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 2: What do you mean? 536 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 4: And I was like, oh my gosh. And so yeah, 537 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:47,439 Speaker 4: then that was like the the start of a very 538 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 4: new life for me and like a new way of 539 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 4: like believing in myself so much more and just yeah, 540 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 4: like self like compassion. So whenever you have compassion for yourself, 541 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 4: it consequently starts happening with other people. You start having 542 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 4: compassion for everyone around you. It was life changing for me, 543 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 4: and the best way. It does seem like sometimes people 544 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 4: could look at it on the outside and look at 545 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 4: it as negative because I'm in my house all the 546 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 4: time and I don't like to go and do things, 547 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 4: blah blah blah. But it's like I get to I 548 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 4: feel more myself, and I also now have like beautiful 549 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 4: hobbies like crocheting and video games, and I do have 550 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 4: like when I do get to when I do go 551 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 4: out and do things, I usually have a really amazing 552 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 4: time because it's something I really want to do or 553 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 4: there's people there that I really want to see, and 554 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 4: I've been saving it up, you know, like I've been resting. 555 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 4: I've been in my rest. So now I'm coming out 556 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 4: of rest that look great and ready to see everyone. 557 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 4: I'm happy and it's fun and I don't have the 558 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 4: anxiety of like where I used to have anxiety when 559 00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 4: I drink all the time and I would be bop 560 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,479 Speaker 4: around every where. I would be like, Yeah, what am 561 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 4: I supposed to be doing? I'm supposed to be doing 562 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 4: a lot of other things back at home. But yeah, 563 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 4: I'm gonna not go home and I can go to 564 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 4: brunch because I don't want to think about that. So yeah, 565 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 4: I guess I'm more like forced to deal with my life, 566 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 4: which I like, I'm happier with my life. Yeah. 567 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 2: Well, you're living in the truth now too, Like there's 568 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 2: some there you know your truth, and that's an exciting 569 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 2: next step. Well to close out here, don't. I don't 570 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 2: know your relationship anymore, but I knew at one point 571 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 2: in your life you had a really close relationship with Nick. 572 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 2: Nick Natalie just had a baby. Have you met the 573 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 2: new baby girl yet? 574 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 4: No? But I texted Natalie and I was like, Hey, 575 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 4: can I crochet something for baby River? She was like, 576 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 4: of course, And so I am trying to figure out 577 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 4: what I want to make for her. If you guys 578 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 4: think of anything cute, Ashley, you think of it, see 579 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 4: anything online, like if anywhere you know, I'm sure you 580 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 4: have like baby stuff popping up on all your fees. 581 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 4: So if you see anything really cute crocheted and you're like, 582 00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 4: I would want this for my maybe send it to me. 583 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 4: And then by the time you have your baby, maybe. 584 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 2: I'll have one made for you to you know, you 585 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 2: know what comes to my mind? Demmy right away. You know, 586 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:09,479 Speaker 2: I just saw this the other day and I think 587 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 2: it's the cutest thing that kids wear. I don't know 588 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 2: why it could be the worst thing overalls, Like I 589 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 2: think crocheted overalls would be absolutely adorable. 590 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 4: That is adorable. What color? What color? 591 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 2: I think you can go all out like it's overalls, 592 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 2: like you're if you're gonna wear overalls, just like I'm 593 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 2: talking like crazy colors, mixed colors, rainbowed colors, like do whatever. 594 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 4: I just got this really cute yarn. I've been making 595 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 4: a sweater for myself, but like, look at how cute 596 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 4: this is. 597 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 3: Oh that's so cute and so why two k I 598 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 3: love that? 599 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:46,719 Speaker 2: Oh adorable? 600 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 3: I was thinking that. You know how Nick loves dim Sum. 601 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 3: What if you made like a little dim Sum hat? 602 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 4: Perfect? Because he takes me there. You know, that's the 603 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 4: only restaurant we go to. 604 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 3: That's his comfort safe sum. 605 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 4: Literally, me and I have only been to Dent type 606 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 4: Fung and I've probably been like twenty times and every 607 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 4: time was with him. 608 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 3: Yep, same hair and Jones on third that's his other 609 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 3: same third. Can't say that either there are bad meals, 610 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 3: they're both, they're both fantastic meals, but the dim summers. 611 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 2: Fine you are. 612 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 3: Okay, wait, Demi, before we let you go, you mentioned 613 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 3: your mom before, and your mom, of course was in 614 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 3: she was in prison. She was she's in jailer in prison, prison, 615 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 3: she was in prison when you were on the show. 616 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 3: And so how's your relationship today. 617 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 4: My mom is my best now. Oh my gosh, that's 618 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 4: one of the biggest changes in my life too, is 619 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 4: like my relationship with my mom. My mom helps me 620 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 4: so much because there are a lot of the things 621 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 4: that I struggle with are like invisible things like Bill's 622 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 4: like not I have the money. 623 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 3: I just don't. 624 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 4: I can't like make sure that everything's paid on time, 625 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 4: and like the auto draft sometimes that doesn't work out 626 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 4: because sometimes I'm I'm waiting on a payment, you know, 627 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 4: but then after it comes in, it never gets paid 628 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 4: because it wasn't in the auto draft. And like, I 629 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 4: am really just terrible with all of that, all of 630 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 4: that part of adulting, like the money and the making 631 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 4: sure you're doing these like adult things you're supposed to do. 632 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 4: I just really struggle with it, and I have ever 633 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 4: since I got into the adult world. Like this isn't 634 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 4: something new. This is I've always been this way and 635 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 4: I just never talk about it. But my mom has 636 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 4: been helping me so much with that and like just 637 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 4: making sure that things are paid, so like I'm not 638 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 4: getting lateies and things I'm falling through like I She's 639 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 4: making sure everything is good for me. And that's just 640 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 4: like such a relief for me, because it gives me 641 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 4: so much anxiety, Like I cannot I'm just like constantly 642 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 4: worrying about like if I've like paid these things and 643 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 4: blah blah, and it's like, well why would And I 644 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 4: just look, I don't know. I don't know why because 645 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 4: I'm too scared to look like it's like I'm just 646 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 4: terrified of the whole thing, and I'm just it eats 647 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 4: me alive too. So to have somebody who's just like, hey, 648 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 4: let me help you. I can do that. I can 649 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 4: like log into these things and make sure it's all 650 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 4: good for you, That's been just the biggest gift of anything. 651 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 4: Like I'm like, oh my god, thank you take care 652 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 4: of me, like please help me. And I think that's 653 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 4: why we have such a good relationship is because she's 654 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 4: not asking for anything in return. She's like, yeah, of 655 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 4: course I'm going to help you. I feel like part 656 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 4: of it is like she probably feels like she owes 657 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 4: it to me after you know, my childhood and everything 658 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 4: that happened with her. But also I just think that 659 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 4: she loves me so much and she just wants to 660 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 4: help me out because she she sees how like sick, 661 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 4: I get over it, like mentally and emotionally. So yeah, 662 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 4: that's why she's taking care of me. So we have 663 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 4: a good relationship. I think it's hard to have a 664 00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 4: good relationship with me if you aren't if you're expecting 665 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 4: me to like be reaching out to you all the time. 666 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 4: Like my mom and I am such a great relationship 667 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 4: because she blows me up, which I need. Like I'm 668 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 4: my phone and I we have a very distant relationship. 669 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 4: I get on there for work to post on Instagram 670 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 4: and get off, like I don't text. I don't do 671 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 4: any of that phones work. So if you text me, 672 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 4: I might not really see it, or I might see 673 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 4: it while I'm working here, or whatever will happen. And 674 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 4: if you think that I'm not responding to that text 675 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 4: intentionally because I don't want to talk to you, and 676 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 4: if you take it that way, we're never going to 677 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 4: be friends because I do not mean it that way 678 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,839 Speaker 4: whatsoever at all. And like, I have so many friends 679 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 4: where we understand this about each other. And so it's like, God, 680 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 4: thank god I found my people, because it sounds like 681 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 4: so rude that I'm like I didn't text them back, 682 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 4: But it's so sick. That's so typical, that's so society's 683 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,840 Speaker 4: rules of like if you don't text back, then that 684 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 4: means you are mad, or that means you don't want 685 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 4: to talk, Like I need to text back because my 686 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 4: brain didn't even see it and I was busy, But 687 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 4: it doesn't mean it doesn't affect our relationship. I'm kind 688 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 4: of going a little too oft right now. 689 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:14,320 Speaker 2: No, No, I love it. 690 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 3: And we're really happy to hear that you're get in 691 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:16,879 Speaker 3: a good spot with your mom. 692 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 4: Yes, so my mom. My mom blows me up. My 693 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 4: mom is not afraid. She understands that I'm It doesn't 694 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 4: mean anything if I don't answer, it just means keep 695 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,359 Speaker 4: trying or try again later. Nobody do. And my mom 696 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 4: is she's doing great, the happiest I have seen her 697 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 4: in years, Like her energy just being around her is 698 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 4: so happy and just ah, she's glowing. 699 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:43,760 Speaker 2: Well, there's a lot of beautiful things coming into your life, Demy. 700 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 2: It's really great to catch up with you. Thank you 701 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 2: for coming on here. Thank you for giving us a 702 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 2: rundown of not only your your stint on this season 703 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 2: of the Bachelor, but also where your life exists today. 704 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 2: Wish you the best. If you are a single man 705 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 2: above a five on day Me scale, please consider reaching out. 706 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 4: I'm women as well, actually want a woman? 707 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Well, hey, Dimmy is open to anybody 708 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 2: above a five uh and interested in hearing more from you, 709 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:15,839 Speaker 2: So reach out to her. 710 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 4: Uh. 711 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 2: Until next time, Dimmy, thanks for joining the Almost Famous podcast. 712 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 2: We wish you the best. You're a joy to have on. 713 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 4: Thank you for having me. 714 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 1: Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast on 715 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.