1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: Back before we called it voicemail, or at least when 2 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: voicemail meant something different and more specific. The world had 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: the humble answering machine. We're not right now, but we'll 4 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: call you about if you leave the name and number. 5 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: If you aren't of the age to remember. The answering 6 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: machine was a physical audio recorder that plugged into your 7 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: phone line. You couldn't call into it remotely. You had 8 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: to wait till you got home to check your messages, 9 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 1: and they were the source for a lot of seinfeldt gas. 10 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:43,279 Speaker 1: Most answering machines recorded on cassette tape. Your magnetically recorded 11 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 1: message will be saved until you recorded over it or 12 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: change the cassette. When I was a little kid, my 13 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: family had a different kind of answering machine. It was 14 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: actually tapeless. I think it was a Sony and it 15 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: was digital. That's my dad, a man who's not apt 16 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: to forget a piece of telephone technology. It was like 17 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: a little tower with a big push button on top 18 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: that would blink once you had a message. In addition 19 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 1: to play and shuttle, it had a record button for 20 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:25,839 Speaker 1: your greeting. But on this machine you could also record 21 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: your own messages. Directly into it, like a voice mobile 22 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: function on your phone. I think the idea was if 23 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: you were the husband and wife passing, you know, running 24 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: kids around and stuff, that you could leave each other 25 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: messages on it if you were just standing in front 26 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: of it, like you wouldn't have to call it on 27 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 1: your non existent cell phone, because none of us had 28 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: cell phones back then. I don't think Mom and I 29 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: ever ever used that, but you used it because you 30 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: liked hearing yourself recorded. It sat on top of my 31 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: parents bureau, so I must have had to climb on 32 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: a duel or something. But I spent untold hours talking 33 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: into this device. Um, my voice is going to come 34 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: out all weird and staticky from the spring, recorded it 35 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: and played it many many times. If you recorded multiple 36 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: memos then hit the play button, it would run them 37 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: all back to back in the order in which they 38 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: were created. To a young me, this was absolute magic. 39 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: By this method, and in a spirit of endless experimentation, 40 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: I'd fill the tiny hard drive with recordings structured as 41 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: imaginary shows. I have no idea what about I'm not 42 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:44,679 Speaker 1: sure I did then, probably just whatever came to mind. 43 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 1: I've listened through it a hundred times and pieces as 44 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: I built my episode up and a few times over 45 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 1: as a finished product, and wait for my parents to 46 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 1: check their messages. I have great parents, so they listened 47 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: through with at least feigned enthusiasm. You eat it, but 48 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: sooner or later we need the space. And with the 49 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: click of a button, it was all gone. This is 50 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: your grandmother? Is anyone there? It's over? Okay? See after 51 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: it's gone, it's all by okay. Soon enough, I'd make another, 52 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 1: and none of those were saved. This tape I've been 53 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: playing is the closest thing I have left. It was 54 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: actually recorded on micro cassette, which looks just like a 55 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: regular cassette tape, shrunk down to a quarter of the size. 56 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: My next fascination after answering machines. Here I'm wandering around 57 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: my dad's office with his handheld voice recorder. Inside my dad, 58 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: I sound about ten round. I made lots of tapes 59 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: like this, but as far as I can find, this 60 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: is the last one I have left from this early 61 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: in my life. Do I wish more had been saved, 62 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: especially those early answering machine productions, I don't know, I 63 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: guess so it's comparable to a baby picture an old 64 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: yearbook or some other keepsake, maybe the most like a 65 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: Sunday school craft project for Mother's Day. Ragged and potentially embarrassing, 66 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 1: however sentimental, but it's ephemeral. It's a fleeting moment and 67 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 1: it's gone. Even though I was young, I knew that 68 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: at the time. It's these moments. This show fixates on 69 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: lost materials, dropped threads, forgotten stories, ephemera in the way 70 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: that it's intertwined in our lives, all those things tangible 71 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: and intangible that you wish you could take just one 72 00:04:56,400 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: more look at before they vanish into the past. America 73 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: has produced like lots and lots of stuff, just piles 74 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: of stuff, and it's sitting around in storage spaces, and 75 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: we keep making it and buying it, and then what 76 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: do you do with it? And it's got to go somewhere. 77 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: The fact of the matter is is all day long, 78 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: every day, there are warehouses full of stuff getting just 79 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: pushed off a cliff, getting shoved off into the abyss 80 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: and being destroyed all day every day. That's the Nagaski 81 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 1: who runs the Canary Records label. A friend of mine, 82 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: uh Steve Smolean, who's a record guy like me said 83 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 1: that what he loves is being the guy standing at 84 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: the edge of the cliff waving his arms going, wait, no, 85 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: let me look at those first before you throw them away. 86 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: I think there might be some good stuff in there, 87 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: there might be some stories. Well, I don't think we 88 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: should throw all those away yet, because museums can't handle it. 89 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 1: The big cultural institutions can't handle it. There's just too 90 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: much stuff. You know, they're getting donated piles of stuff 91 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: all the time. The fact of the matter is they 92 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 1: don't always know or care. They're looking for specific things 93 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: that relate to specific narratives, so you always need somebody 94 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: who's looking for a different story. We have a season 95 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: ten episodes of stories from that realm, of things that 96 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: were just barely saved and in some cases not saved 97 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: at all. A bizarre tale of two infamous New Yorkers 98 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: booby trapped their home and turned it into the shield 99 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: fortress of a missing chapter of American music history. There 100 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: hasn't been a guess culturally that they matter, so they 101 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: got thrown in the garbage. A decade's worth of original 102 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: television lost to the airwaves. It's over. You're gonna see 103 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: something else the next second, and nobody's ever going to 104 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: see a piece of music that's defied convention for seventy years. 105 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: I had students write down the sounds they heard during it, 106 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 1: and one girl said, I never realized there was so 107 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: much to listen to and what could only be called 108 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: an audio mystery. It said nothing on it and it 109 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: clearly had been recorded, which intrigued me. What is this 110 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: going to be? These stories and more given new life, 111 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: if only for a glimpse. There's times I can't help 112 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: but feeling like that little kid again, talking into a 113 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: machine that I'm sure won't save anything I say into it. Also, 114 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: is this podcast a piece of ephemer in the making, 115 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: a forgotten story about forgotten stories? Only time will tell 116 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: the Ephemeral debuts. Subscribe now on Apple Podcasts, the I 117 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: Heart Radio app, or wherever you listen to podcasts. 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