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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. What's going on? Everybody,

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Speaker 1: welcome in. It is Fox Sports Saturday. I'm Jason Martin,

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Speaker 1: Arnie Spanier with me here tonight. Aaron Torres taking vacation

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Speaker 2: He takes a lot of time get down to it.

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Speaker 3: It.

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Speaker 1: A lot to get to first time a while, though,

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Speaker 1: I would say it's a little bit quieter on the

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Speaker 1: sporting front live. Yes, there's baseball happening, both major league

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Speaker 1: and college. There's softball w NBA earlier. It's not that

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Speaker 1: there's nothing. Of course, there's the hockey playoffs. But this

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Speaker 1: is the first week in a while where we haven't

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Speaker 1: had an NBA game happening kind of in this time slot.

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Speaker 1: We're just about to end in this time slot that

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Speaker 1: we've been able to react to. But we do have

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Speaker 1: an NBA Finals matchup. We're gonna spend a good bit

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Speaker 1: of this program talking about that before we jump into it. Though, Arnie,

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Speaker 1: how are you.

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Speaker 2: I'm good. I'm good. Yeah, you know, a little bit

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Speaker 2: quieter than I think. The last time I was filling

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Speaker 2: in for Torres, a lot more was going on. We

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Speaker 2: were full fledging the in the NBA playoffs, and now

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Speaker 2: we've lost all momentum. I mean, I'm sure we'll get

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Speaker 2: into that, but geez, I mean, in seven days for

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Speaker 2: one team, ten days for the other team in between

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Speaker 2: their last game, it just it just took all the

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Speaker 2: oxygen out of the room. I mean, it's so long.

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Speaker 2: What are we supposed to do it? It feels like

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Speaker 2: a Super Bowl where you get in two weeks between

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Speaker 2: the AFC and NFC Championship and the Super Bowl. It's

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Speaker 2: just way too much time for the NBA. So they've

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Speaker 2: taken away any momentum we've had. But I kind of

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Speaker 2: like the World Series, the Women's World Series, the NCAA Baseball,

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Speaker 2: you know, so about getting into that. We got MLB

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Speaker 2: and a lot of other joke news out there. Well, friend,

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Speaker 2: job and if you're into that, but at all kinds

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Speaker 2: of I love the news and notes of the off

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Speaker 2: season in the NFL. You know, the Caleb Williams stuff

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Speaker 2: about what's happening in practice with him and what was

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Speaker 2: I love all that. It's all that type of news too.

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Speaker 1: Your point about the long layoff, I mean that's been

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Speaker 1: an annual problem for the NBA as far as I'm concerned.

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Speaker 1: I think one of the reasons why is because they

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Speaker 1: set the start of the finals so early and it's

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Speaker 1: not dependent upon how long the series go, right, and

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Speaker 1: then if you don't have seven game series, then you

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Speaker 1: have these incredibly long layoffs. I should mention before we

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Speaker 1: should be. Okay. To that finals matchup, I would suggest, Well,

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Speaker 1: I have an answer, but I'm gonna ask you without

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Speaker 1: actually giving mind, which team do you think is hurt

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Speaker 1: more by the time off? Now I understand from a

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Speaker 1: they possibly can, but from a rhythm and just kind

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Speaker 1: of flow standpoint, which team do you think is affected more?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think it affects the Celtics more, only because

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Speaker 2: it helps the Mavericks immensely to have all this time off.

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Speaker 2: It really does, I mean to you know, especially for

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Speaker 2: take a breather, and this is exactly, you know, what

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Speaker 2: that's going to help the Celtics and definitely helped the Mavericks. Look,

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Speaker 1: See, I think it's the exact opposite why, And I mean,

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Speaker 1: I understand your reasoning, I do. I just think that

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Speaker 2: You know, if anybody was going to be rusty after

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Speaker 2: but their Hall of famers, you know, it's just a

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Speaker 2: I've seen Tatum and Brown have like two for fifteen

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Speaker 2: I would think that if it was a bad shooting

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think that, well, I mean, we're

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Speaker 1: I am. I feel like the Boston side of this

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Speaker 1: But I am excited about this because I think this

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Speaker 2: Quickly we forget because you know, whenever a guy leaves

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Speaker 2: much animosity. Do you remember how much animosity there was.

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Speaker 2: little bit more fresher in my mind. Kyrie coming back

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Speaker 2: of forgot about how much of the Boston fans and

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Speaker 1: how that story is told. I think the fact that

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Speaker 2: I thinks are I think he had surgery right before

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Speaker 1: Like that, and I think he chose to do it.

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Speaker 1: Like a move where okay, well I'm taking myself out

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Speaker 1: history of that. What's happened has happened. His legacy to

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Speaker 1: What happened in Brooklyn, some of the challenges with bron James,

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Speaker 1: he goes to Dallas and everything has kind of shifted.

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Speaker 1: So I think he can only work with what's in

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Speaker 1: am curious to see the reaction in terms of the

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Speaker 1: long term perception of Kyrie Irving, but I don't think

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but Jason, you said he had an A plus

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Speaker 2: on the tests so far. That's just so far. The

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Speaker 2: test is not over. The test is about ninety percent on.

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Speaker 2: You still have ten percent left, and a big part

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Speaker 2: Lebron or anybody like that that doesn't get the call.

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Speaker 1: You know, I feel I feel like I just, you

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Speaker 1: know what, Let's ask Steve to Seger. Let's bring in Steve.

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Speaker 1: Let's find out what's happening in the world of sports.

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Speaker 1: Let's ask him about Luca, because I feel like Luca

435
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Speaker 1: is on a completely different level than is anybody else.

436
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that the guys that you mentioned are

437
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Speaker 1: and he don't deserve it. But let's go out to

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Speaker 1: Let's go out to la. Let's catch up with the

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Speaker 1: Steve de Saga for the first time tonight. Find out

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Speaker 1: what's happening in the world of sports.

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Speaker 4: Good evening, gentlemen. I did last season see a list

442
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Speaker 4: for what It's worth. One guy's list written on a

443
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Speaker 4: website of the players that can plain the most in

444
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Speaker 4: the NBA currently, and the top three were Lebron James, Luka,

445
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Speaker 4: Donsich and Draymond Green.

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Speaker 2: Right, well, that's which we just said. I just didn't

447
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Speaker 2: know that Luca was that much worse than everybody think

448
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Speaker 2: they're all. You could put thirty three percent for all three,

449
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Speaker 2: and for all I care that, I would just say

450
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Speaker 2: they're the same.

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Speaker 4: I do think this kind of postseason run is kind

452
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Speaker 4: of overshadowing for the moment, that type of thing, because

453
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Speaker 4: the kind of greatness that's been on display. It's kind

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Speaker 4: of like Kyrie has been known for off the court

455
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Speaker 4: stuff a lot, and the kind of greatness that's been

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Speaker 4: on display is for the moment. Putting that aside. The

457
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Speaker 4: NBA Finals don't start till Thursday, as you mentioned, when

458
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Speaker 4: the Celtics will host Dallas in Game one. Stanley Cup

459
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Speaker 4: Final starts in one week June the eighth, and once

460
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Speaker 4: again the team that was best in the regular season

461
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Speaker 4: is not going to be winning the Stanley Cup. That's

462
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Speaker 4: eleven straight years. This will be the case because the

463
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Speaker 4: New York Rangers are out. They lost at Florida two

464
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Speaker 4: to one in Game six of the East Final tonight.

465
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Speaker 4: The Panthers advance. The Ranger season ends losing three straight

466
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Speaker 4: contests in this series, their longest losing streak since mid January.

467
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Speaker 4: This means Panthers coach Paul Maurice is back in the final.

468
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Speaker 4: He had Florida there last year and lost. He got

469
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Speaker 4: Carolina to the final over twenty years ago and lost.

470
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Speaker 4: The West Final continues tomorrow. I had Edmonton up three

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Speaker 4: games to two hosts Dallas in the day.

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Speaker 2: Could you imagine Panthers at Edmonton ratings through the room, man.

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Speaker 4: You'd be like that Anaheim Ottawa final that we were

474
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Speaker 4: all looking forward to two years ago.

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Speaker 1: I tuned out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you never know, you know, if you go

477
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Speaker 4: look through the NBA ratings, there was a Lebron James

478
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Speaker 4: Cleveland where they got swept by Tim Duncan and San Antonio.

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Speaker 4: As I recall, that's as I recalled the lowest rated

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Speaker 4: NBA aside from the COVID year, the lowest rated NBA

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Speaker 4: finals that I can recall is.

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Speaker 1: That worse than the Piston Spurs.

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Speaker 4: There was a New Jersey that was really low too,

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Speaker 4: about twenty years Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But the.

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Speaker 4: Fact that it was there was nobody else with Lebron

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Speaker 4: and it was a four game sweep. And you know

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Speaker 4: the San Antonio. Let's be honest, the San Antonio Finals

489
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Speaker 4: didn't usually get as good a ratings as even say

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Speaker 4: Detroit Lakers. When Detroit upset the Lakers, that would get

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Speaker 4: a good number. What we're going to have here is

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Speaker 4: the Celtics and Mavericks. In fact, we mentioned it last

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Speaker 4: weekend show. I think that when we had a Boston

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Speaker 4: Golden State, for example, it was a little better rating

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Speaker 4: than what we've been getting in the last few years.

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Speaker 4: But you know, Game two is going to be at

497
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Speaker 4: Boston on Sunday the ninth, which means we're going to

498
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Speaker 4: go two full weeks from tonight, and unless there's a sweep,

499
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Speaker 4: the NBA Finals will still be going because they're not

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Speaker 4: starting tonight or tomorrow or once again, Thursday is Game

501
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Speaker 4: one in Boston, and in one week the Stanley Cup

502
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Speaker 4: Final finally begins. In the WNBA one game today, Indiana

503
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Speaker 4: was one and eight. It defeated Chicago seventy one seventy

504
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Speaker 4: Caitlin Clark eleven points, eight rebounds. At the French Open,

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Speaker 4: number one Novak Djokovic won in five sets, six love,

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Speaker 4: and the fifth against Lorenzo Musetti. This is a third

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Speaker 4: rounder that ended after three am in Paris. Needless to

508
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Speaker 4: say that as a record for that Grand Slam latest

509
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Speaker 4: into the for Djokovic in his long career. He has

510
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Speaker 4: now won three hundred and sixty nine matches at Grand Slams,

511
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Speaker 4: which ties Roger Freederer for the most match wins in

512
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Speaker 4: tennis history at Grand Slams, Which means now that he's advancing,

513
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Speaker 4: he can break the mark in his next match on Monday.

514
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Speaker 4: At College soft Balls World Series, Texas and Oklahoma won

515
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Speaker 4: winners bracket games. US women's soccer with a new coach,

516
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Speaker 4: Emma Hayes won an exhibition in Colorado for nothing over

517
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Speaker 4: South Korea. Reminder, nascars on FS one tomorrow three thirty

518
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Speaker 4: pm Eastern time. We have three late games in Major

519
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Speaker 4: League Baseball. Part of the country was supposed to see

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Speaker 4: tonight on Fox the game from Wrigley Field, but Reds

521
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Speaker 4: at Cubs was delayed by rain over three hours. They've

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Speaker 4: finally gotten underway and it's four to four in the

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Speaker 4: bottom of the third at Wrigley. Sey Suzuki, the right

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Speaker 4: fielder for the Cubs. In the top of the second inning,

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Speaker 4: and air a three run bases loaded error. And then

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Speaker 4: he came up in the bottom of the second inning

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Speaker 4: with bases loaded and homered, and that has accounted for

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Speaker 4: the four runs of the Shops so far. Four to

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Speaker 4: four bottom of the third, the Yankees lead for to

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Speaker 4: three at the Giants. Bottom of the six. Aaron Judge

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Speaker 4: has homered at San Francisco again. You may have heard

532
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Speaker 4: he did not sign with the Giants. Two run homer

533
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Speaker 4: in the first inning for Judge, his twenty first of

534
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Speaker 4: the year already, and the Dodgers lead it home in

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Speaker 4: the bottom of the fifth inning three to one against Colorado.

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Speaker 4: Wins again for Baltimore, Cleveland and Philadelphia, which beats Saint

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Speaker 4: Louis six to one, but Philly's starting pitcher Ranger Suarez,

538
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Speaker 4: who's nine to one, left early with the bruised hand

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Speaker 4: hit by a line drive back to you.

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Speaker 1: Wow, man, a lot that feels twenty one twenty one

541
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Speaker 1: home runs already feels like a lot.

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Speaker 2: He's on fire, man. What that guy's been doing over

543
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Speaker 2: the last one was it like month or so has

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Speaker 2: been tremendous. I don't know why we're not been paying

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Speaker 2: more attention to it. It's just absolutely crazy.

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Speaker 4: It was fourteen justin May in the home run department.

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Speaker 1: Yeez, that's impressive, it really is. I'm actually watching on

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Speaker 1: that game right now. As a matter of fact, I

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Speaker 1: am Sadden by the way, for my Braves. I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: Chris Sale playing awesome and we the season's not over

551
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 1: and the last time of Kunya was out for the year.

552
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Speaker 1: We won the World Series, but just losing him again

553
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Speaker 1: after losing Spencer Strider very early in the year, it

554
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Speaker 1: may not be our year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but by the way, you said, you said you

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Speaker 2: were sad enough, thought you were going to bring up

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Speaker 2: something about Bill Walton. I saw that.

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Speaker 1: We're going to do that in the final segment.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I gotta tell you. Yeah, there's a lot

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Speaker 2: I have to say about Bill Walt. He's just a

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Speaker 2: great guy. He really is. Unbelieva.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the stuff I've read about we'll talk about in

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Speaker 1: the final segment. But I wanted to actually set aside

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Speaker 1: some real time for to talk about Bill Walton, so

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Speaker 1: you can look forward to that. Folks. We are in

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Speaker 1: the tyrack dot Com studios here. It is Arnie Spanier,

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Speaker 1: I'm Jason Martin here with you. So well, that kind

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Speaker 1: of derailed me. I'm sorry from where I was gonna go. No,

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Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with that, But the Bill Walton story

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Speaker 1: is huge. All right, here's here's here's what I actually

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Speaker 1: had planned for right now. Minnesota and Indiana. Those are

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Speaker 1: the two teams that got the closest to the NBA

573
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Speaker 1: Finals outside of the two that are obviously in it.

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Speaker 1: And you look at those two teams, the Timberwolves and

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Speaker 1: the Pacers, Arnie, what are they next year?

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Speaker 2: What are they next year? Well, Minnesota is gonna have

577
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Speaker 2: to make a decision if they want Cat coming back.

578
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Speaker 2: How much money can they give him? Is it gonna

579
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Speaker 2: go way over the cap? Can they afford him? If

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Speaker 2: they can't afford him, how much are they gonna go

581
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Speaker 2: and drop out if they can't bring him back. I

582
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Speaker 2: think the Pacers are in a better position in the

583
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Speaker 2: long run. I just love their team, especially those gritty

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Speaker 2: guys off the bench. I love McConnell former University of

585
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Speaker 2: Arizona Wildcat, and I just you know, I just love

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Speaker 2: everything about it. But I love their hard work. I'm

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Speaker 2: very mad at Holli Burton for that sweatshirt, but that's

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Speaker 2: a that's a whole nother story.

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Speaker 1: You mean the yellow the Reggie Millers odd.

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Speaker 2: One he was wearing, No, the Reggie Miller sweatshirt, the

591
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Speaker 2: one where Reggie had his hands on like you choked,

592
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Speaker 2: And he wore that at the New York Knicks after

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Speaker 2: the Game seven, and.

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Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, okay, I know what you're talking about. He

595
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Speaker 1: was he was actually felt like like when he was injured,

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Speaker 1: he was wearing like this lacoste.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was very nice.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was nice. I was like, all right, man,

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Speaker 1: you don't see that one too often.

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Speaker 2: No, I said, I'm not wearing that Reggie Miller choking sweatshirt.

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Speaker 2: Now is he out there? But I think in the

602
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Speaker 2: long run they're in a better situation.

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Speaker 1: Though.

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Speaker 2: Privately, and you know, I don't have inside information for this,

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Speaker 2: but privately, the commissioner's probably saying, let's hope not. I mean,

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Speaker 2: we can't have Minnesota and Indiana. God forbidden the NBA Finals.

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Speaker 2: The only reason you want Minnesota is the NBA Finals

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Speaker 2: is because the Boss is a Minnesota fan, so you

609
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Speaker 2: probably want to suck up to him. But other other

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Speaker 2: than that, man, we we really don't want those teams

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Speaker 2: in the NBA Finals.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So here's the I know you want to talk

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Speaker 1: about this, being a Knicks fan, I know you want

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Speaker 1: to talk about it. Yes, Yes, Is it fair to

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Speaker 1: criticize the road to the finals for the Boston Celtics in.

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Speaker 2: The East because of all the injuries, Because yes.

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Speaker 1: The easiest pathway you will ever see in.

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Speaker 2: The history of that far, in the history of sports.

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Speaker 2: It was the easiest pathway I've ever seen in my

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Speaker 2: entire life. Nothing that they did to go ahead, and

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Speaker 2: you know, obviously be penalized for it, but you know,

622
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Speaker 2: one series after another, you know, Jimmy Butler, Halla Burton,

623
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Speaker 2: what was the second Donovan Mitchell. It's a joke. The

624
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 2: whole thing was a joke. I mean, they were gonna

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Speaker 2: get to the NBA Finals, and it's going to help

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Speaker 2: them in the finals because they've played less games. I

627
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Speaker 2: think they're a little bit frustrated though. This that's why

628
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Speaker 2: this long layoff is really gonna hel the Mavericks. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's been the best, the easiest run in NBA and

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Speaker 2: sports history. What they've had to go through, that's.

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Speaker 1: For sure, was what we just saw. The most underrated

632
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Speaker 1: in terms of entertainment value, the most underrated sweep you

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Speaker 1: can remember in a seven game series like Boston won four,

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Speaker 1: but all of them were compelling, and all of them

635
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Speaker 1: seemingly went down to the end like they were just

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Speaker 1: you know, the Pacers really should have won one.

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Speaker 2: And three in the last two minutes. The Pacers had

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Speaker 2: a ninety percent win percentage. I think within what three

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Speaker 2: different times are three different games within the last two

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Speaker 2: minutes of the game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean when you look at four, I figured

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Speaker 1: the Celtics just walk all over and finish them off,

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Speaker 1: because it just you rip their heart out in game three.

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Speaker 1: But it just didn't go that way. Four games, one

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Speaker 1: by the same team, one by the better team. You

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Speaker 1: have Halliburton missing for the last two, and all of

647
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Speaker 1: them come down to the wire like it's I do

648
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Speaker 1: not remember a seven game series that ended up being

649
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Speaker 1: four to Oh for sure. That was that entertaining, and

650
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Speaker 1: going into the series, I did not think it was

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Speaker 1: gonna be anywhere nearest compelling as it turned out to be.

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Speaker 1: The worst part about it, by far was the television

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Speaker 1: broadcast itself.

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Speaker 2: What what do you mean by that?

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Speaker 1: What? What about the I mean that I'm not a

656
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Speaker 1: giant fan of who was calling those games? Ah?

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Speaker 2: Gotcha?

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Speaker 1: I gotcha outside of Mike Brie.

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Speaker 2: You're right right, Look, it was compelling only in the

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Speaker 2: fact that the games were closed, But never did we

661
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Speaker 2: really think that the Pacers were gonna come away with

662
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Speaker 2: the series victory anyway, So it really didn't make much

663
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Speaker 2: of a difference. The only compelling part was you're right,

664
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Speaker 2: the Pacers had three games a ninety percent, which win

665
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Speaker 2: a percentage within the last two minutes, and they came

666
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Speaker 2: away with zero in that. So that's the part they

667
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Speaker 2: joked away.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know what we need to come back with,

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Speaker 1: touch of Gray Scarlett, Macgonia's, Casey Jones, whatever it is.

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Speaker 1: We need to come back with some grateful dead because

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Speaker 1: we are going to say goodbye to an absolute legend

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Speaker 1: in Bill Walton when we come back here on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about. We are in the Tyraq

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Speaker 1: dot com studios. It's Fox Sports Saturday. He is Arnie Spanier,

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Speaker 1: I'm Jason Martin. Yep, that's Jerry Garcia. Grateful Dead singing

681
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Speaker 1: in the background, William Theodore Walton, the third, passing away

682
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Speaker 1: at the age of seventy one. The tributes that rolled

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Speaker 1: out this week, I spent time reading several of them.

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00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 1: I thought Jay Billis his stories were exceptional. Rick Carlisle

685
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Speaker 1: commenting before I think it was in a pregame press

686
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Speaker 1: conference before one of the Eastern Conference Finals games, telling

687
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Speaker 1: the story of how Bill Walton might be responsible for

688
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Speaker 1: him being married, Oh wow, helping him on his first

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Speaker 1: date wow, and getting him backstage with the Dead and

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Speaker 1: stuff like that. Just some incredible stuff, Artie. I want

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Speaker 1: to see some time to you here and I'll chime

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Speaker 1: in as well. But I know you being a guy

693
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Speaker 1: that went to the University of Arizona. This is a

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Speaker 1: guy in Bill Walton who just loved that conference.

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Speaker 2: I got a tice saying goodbye to When I first

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Speaker 2: got to Los Angeles and I was doing local radio

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00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 2: in Los Angeles, we carried the UCLA Bruins. I went

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00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 2: to one of their games. It was not a big game,

699
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 2: but it was like U see or vine or something,

700
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Speaker 2: and I walked in and I had a media seat.

701
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 2: It was right there, actually on the floor, and who

702
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 2: was sitting right next to me. It was Bill Waller, like, oh, Bell,

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Speaker 2: how you doing. And he couldn't have been nicer and

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Speaker 2: just sitting next to him, even though it was juc

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Speaker 2: Or vibe. He was just lik into every play, excited

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00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 2: about the good plays and you know, just talking to

707
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 2: me about look at that, look at this guy, and

708
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 2: look at where this guy's from, and like he was

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Speaker 2: calling the game and it was just so enjoyable. He

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00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 2: was just so alive. And when it came across, it

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00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 2: hit me like a ton of bricks. I'm like, I

712
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 2: didn't expect it. I didn't know he was sick. I know,

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Speaker 2: I knew that he was missing the you know, the

714
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Speaker 2: end of the season games that he was supposed to call,

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Speaker 2: but it was just horrible when it came across. And

716
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Speaker 2: I happened to have my phone with me and saw

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00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 2: when it first came across, and you know, then the

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00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 2: pouring tributes came out. As like you said, but he

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Speaker 2: was just larger than life. He couldn't have been more comedy.

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Speaker 2: He was so nice to me. He's that I've listened

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Speaker 2: to your show and you know, and he just he

722
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 2: was just just a good guy and all around first,

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Speaker 2: for a guy that was a superstar, they're not usually

724
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Speaker 2: down to earth and down to life like he is.

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Speaker 2: And he's just a really good guy.

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Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, I mean that's what I saw pretty

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00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: much universally said throughout the week about Bill Walton, And

728
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Speaker 1: you know, I think about him as a broadcaster certainly,

729
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Speaker 1: and just how different he was, how unique he was

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Speaker 1: sometimes to just kind of a crazy degree, some of

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Speaker 1: the things he would say about guys right and about games.

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Speaker 1: But the one thing that you could never say about

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Speaker 1: him was that he didn't care.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, he.

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Speaker 1: Loved the sport. He loved college athletics, but he loved yeah,

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Speaker 1: certainly loved GCLA. He Rick Carlisle mentioned as well that

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Speaker 1: Bill was actually reaching out to him and texting them

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Speaker 1: through throughout the postseason run, saying he really enjoyed their

739
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Speaker 1: style of play, liked how they were playing. Rix said

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Speaker 1: he actually shared some of those text messages with the

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Speaker 1: Pacers prior to one of one of the games to

742
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Speaker 1: let them know, you know, Bill Walton was watching them

743
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: and all of these things. But he was just different.

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Speaker 1: He was unique, Like there was something about him that

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Speaker 1: was larger than life in a lot of ways. But

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Speaker 1: the respect that he has has received, not just from

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Speaker 1: his own peers, but from contemporaries and from guys of

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Speaker 1: this generation. He is had it not been for the

749
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Speaker 1: injuries that shortened his NBA. Yeah, right, that hurt his stats.

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Speaker 1: I mean when I didn't get to watch him play.

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Speaker 1: You're young enough to really be able to watch him play.

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00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 2: You are too young to really understand how good he

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Speaker 2: was and what a difference maker he was in the NBA.

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Speaker 2: It's a shape as a lot of young people think

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Speaker 2: of him as a broadcaster, and you know, you could

756
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Speaker 2: ask him one question. He can go out for twenty minutes.

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Speaker 2: But he was quite the hell of a player. Quite

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Speaker 2: a great college player too, Jason, really unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: I believe what I saw, at least I saw someone.

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Speaker 1: It may have even been Magic Johnson say, you know

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Speaker 1: it was him and Kareem were the two best college

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Speaker 1: basketball players to ever play, right, and Magic certainly could

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Speaker 1: be in that conversation as well. But Bill Walton had

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Speaker 1: all the respect in the world from everybody, and you

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Speaker 1: just see it this week. And another thing I wanted

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Speaker 1: to point out quickly is, you know he had a

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Speaker 1: major stuttering issue and he goes on to be on

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Speaker 1: television and a broadcaster. I think it's fair for me

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Speaker 1: to share this. But our good friend and colleague here

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Speaker 1: at Fox Sports Radio, who I've worked with for many years,

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Speaker 1: Jeff Schwartz, dealt with a speech impediment when he was

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Speaker 1: in college at Oregon and I think in high school

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Speaker 1: as well. And now look at him. He's done TV,

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Speaker 1: he's doing radio on a regular basis. Great guy who's

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Speaker 1: been able to do it. Like when I saw that

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Speaker 1: about Bill Walton, immediately thought of Jeff, and I was

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Speaker 1: just like, it is really impressed of how God works.

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Speaker 1: It really is. But Bill Walton truly did special things

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Speaker 1: and his this is one of those deals where, yes,

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Speaker 1: it was a life lived so well, oh, a legacy

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Speaker 1: that will go on absolutely forever. I think that's wait

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Speaker 1: seventy one.

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Speaker 2: And I think the they did a special tribute, did

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Speaker 2: a special tribute for him on the sphere in Vegas

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Speaker 2: or something like that. It was unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: So we got more coming up an hour two. Yes,

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Speaker 1: just incredible stuff. Dallas title change in Legacies, We'll see

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Speaker 1: So if the Mavericks, who will open up the NBA

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Speaker 1: Finals against the Boston Celtics on Thursday in Game one,

804
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: because apparently we need to play the NBA Finals through

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Speaker 1: the entire summer, maybe they will end by the time

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Speaker 1: the Olympics start it.

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Speaker 2: Don't miss the point here. Not only is it taking

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Speaker 2: away the momentum, it's drastically taking away the momentum, and

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Speaker 2: ratings are going to be down because of it. I

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Speaker 2: don't know how much it's going to be down. Maybe

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Speaker 2: I don't know the ramifications of having it this late.

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00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 2: It feels like a Super Bowl with a week in betweeen.

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00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 2: But believe me, when you're playing basketball, this is way

814
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 2: too long. Seven days for one team, ten days for

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Speaker 2: the other. That's just insane. You never have that type

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Speaker 2: of way off. I don't know how the NBA fixes it, though,

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00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 2: you have to have set.

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Speaker 1: Well, they do it every year. Though.

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Speaker 2: Well, what do you mean that that it's just far

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Speaker 2: advanced or what.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty far? Yeah, I mean I need to actually

822
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: look it up. But this is a yearly discussion. I

823
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: remember having this talk with Torres for years that it

824
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 1: feels like between the conference finals and the start of

825
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: the NBA Finals is an eternity because they tell you

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Speaker 1: it begin the playoffs. The NBA Finals are going to

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Speaker 1: start June sixth or June seventh, or whatever it is.

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Speaker 1: It's always, you know, first week in June or even

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Speaker 1: late in the first weekend. I always thought it first dates.

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Speaker 2: They usually say if it's a sweep, then it will

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Speaker 2: start here. If it goes six games, it will start here.

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00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 2: For those seven games, it will start here. That's the

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Speaker 2: way I thought they used to do it, but but

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Speaker 2: I guess not, and.

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Speaker 1: It really, at least in recent years, that's how I

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Speaker 1: remember it being. But we'll we'll research and figure it

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00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: out to say it's probably already got the answer, so

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00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:12,720
Speaker 1: we'll talk to him and something. It definitely kills the momentum.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no doubt about that. And you know what,

840
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 2: it takes away even the average fans like what happened

841
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 2: who won the NBA Championship. I wonder if there's people

842
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 2: think the championship's over and just didn't realize.

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Speaker 1: Who what you know? No, I mean again, I don't

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Speaker 1: think that, but I will say this, I mean it

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Speaker 1: definitely like we're I think we're all kind of in

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Speaker 1: an NBA mindset right now. If we've been watching the postseason,

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00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: it does kind of feel like this layoff gives me

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00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 1: an opportunity to check out, and I'm gonna have to

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00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 1: check back in now, me and you. Because we do

850
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 1: this for a living, we don't have that luxury, so

851
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: we're still kind of dialed into what's going on. But

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00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 1: the regular guy out there who has all sorts of

853
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: other things and you know, isn't dependent upon this for

854
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 1: part of his income that guy might tune out and

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00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: you know, might have to be reminded about oh yeah,

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00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: game once Thursday, that's right, and then you'll be able

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00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 1: to get back into it. I think if the matchup

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00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: is compelling enough, but it isn't exactly like this flow

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00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: and momentum that you have had going over the past

860
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 1: month or so throughout the postseason is maintained. It's not.

861
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: There's the break itself. It kind of shatters that.

862
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 2: It shatters that. But there's nothing really going in competition.

863
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 2: And Ifl's not gonna start, college football is not going

864
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 2: to start. I don't even think the Olympics get going.

865
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 2: When what does that thing start going on?

866
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 1: You know, so been here and I'm very curious about

867
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 1: the Olympics. The only thing I would say about the

868
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 1: Olympics without really belaboring it with everything that's happening globally

869
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: right now, I am fearful of the Olympics, and I'll

870
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 1: just leave it at that.

871
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 2: I'm a big Olympics fan. I love to watch it.

872
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 2: You know, these are sports I would never watch. You know,

873
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 2: if this was any you know, certain summer or whatever,

874
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 2: I would say, Hey, Jason, did you see the curling

875
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 2: or did you see or whatever? You know, the bicycling.

876
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: ANSWER's gonna be yes to curling if I have the opportunity.

877
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 2: But I I, you know, I get into it what

878
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 2: it is on, and I'll watch it and as long

879
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 2: as they explain some of the storylines to me and

880
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 2: stuff like that.

881
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I used to. I used to be

882
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: a lot bigger on the Olympics than I am. Now.

883
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: We'll see how it is this year for me. But

884
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: the last couple have just not really, they haven't done it.

885
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: I think at some point sports became so always because

886
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 1: we had so much access to it. Now we have

887
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: the espns and the FS ones, and we have UH

888
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 1: talk radio seven days a week, twenty four to seven

889
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: networks and all this like we're inundated with it. We're

890
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 1: inundated with it online on our smartphones, on our tablets,

891
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: just throughout our lives. We don't escape sports. So this

892
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: thing that happens every four years, involving a bunch of

893
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: people that we don't know in sports that we aren't near,

894
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: is familiar with. I just don't feel like it carries

895
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: the gravity that it once did. I also think just

896
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: kind of the national fervor of it all. We've kind

897
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: of lost some of that. I think we come back

898
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: for a Katie Leducky or a Michael Phelps, but the

899
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: days of we're watching the Olympics both weeks, I feel

900
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: like that was something from my childhood that we're probably

901
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: not going to recover.

902
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 2: No, I think you're right about that. I mean there's

903
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 2: a lot of sports we could say that we used to,

904
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,919
Speaker 2: you know, stuff from my childhood. We used to love

905
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 2: the in the five hundred. Boxing used to be big,

906
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 2: horse racing used to be big. The Olympics used to

907
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 2: be big. Tennis used to be big. Now, you know

908
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,959
Speaker 2: all that. But I just think five sports or five

909
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 2: events that people could care less about, to be honest.

910
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 1: With you, Yeah, I'll try. I mean we could have

911
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 1: we have that discussion annually. I think every time every

912
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: time the Kentucky Derby comes around. Oh yeah, we have

913
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: a discussion of which sport is dead and buried never

914
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:59,959
Speaker 1: coming back. And it's horse racing and like prize fire

915
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: and some of the things that you just mentioned. And

916
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: then I usually lamant how tennis used to be so

917
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: huge when I was in high school.

918
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 2: I mean women's tennis was umongous. I mean so was

919
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 2: men's tennis, but women's tennis was right up there. It

920
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 2: was big time for people to watch.

921
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 1: And even golf now like that where Tiger is not

922
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:23,959
Speaker 1: as dominant. You look at the ratings now, even though

923
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 1: the golf just be employed at so high level, the

924
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 1: numbers to start matching up, and so you see those

925
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: things change and some things which will will come and

926
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 1: take take the place. But we also just have so

927
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: many options for our time, so many different places that

928
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: we can put our eyeballs to be entertained, and we

929
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: can also go out and actually take part in so

930
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 1: many more things as well. And it seems like now

931
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: we are working for our free time. We work so

932
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 1: that we can then go and enjoy these other things.

933
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: It's kind of changed. It used to be kind of

934
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 1: more siloed off than that.

935
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,720
Speaker 2: Well, you know, you were mentioning, there's so many things

936
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 2: that we can tune into and so many other things

937
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 2: to watch. Yeah, that's true, but one thing that was

938
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 2: taken away from me, and I'm distraught about it. I

939
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 2: am really when this came over today, I was really

940
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 2: bummed out that the Tyson fight is gonna be what postponed.

941
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 2: I who knows when they're ever.

942
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: Gonna ry man Mike. Tyson had a major issue on

943
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: that flight.

944
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 2: I know that, but I wanted to see that fight

945
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 2: so bad. So I was so I was so into it.

946
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 2: I was buying the.

947
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: Herright I can I can hear the sarcasm dripping from.

948
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 2: You being serious. I'm being serious. I really wanted to

949
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,399
Speaker 2: see that fight. I thought you want to I thought

950
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 2: Tyson was gonna kick his ass. I thought Tyson was

951
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 2: gonna knock him on his backside. Everybody kept saying he's

952
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 2: fifty three years old or fifty five years old. I go,

953
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 2: did you see the way he looked, just sparring and

954
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 2: just practicing, And you want to tell me that he's

955
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,399
Speaker 2: gonna have a problem with Jake Paul?

956
00:48:58,520 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: Get out of here.

957
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:00,240
Speaker 2: I wanted him.

958
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: You wanted to see him knock Jake Paul in next week?

959
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 2: I wanted to, Yeah, hit a five rows up, and

960
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 2: you were he was an underdog. I'm like, this is

961
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:10,919
Speaker 2: a great fight to bet and bet.

962
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: Are you going to be putting money on Tyson? Oh?

963
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 2: I was gonna put money on Tyson. I was. And

964
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 2: I listen to the people go, I'm not touching this fight.

965
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 2: I'm staying away. I'm not bet on any fifty five

966
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 2: year old. I'm like, you guys are insane. And Plus,

967
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,320
Speaker 2: whenever they wanted for the fight, whether it would have

968
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 2: been fifty, one hundred and one hundred and fifty, I

969
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 2: was gonna pay. I wanted to see this fight. I

970
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 2: was really hyped up to see this. I'm bummed out

971
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:35,959
Speaker 2: that it's not going to be there.

972
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: So I think that what's interesting about what you're laying

973
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 1: out is it seems like the spectacle is now the

974
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: sport like right, the high end fight is not going

975
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 1: to get you to shell out one hundred and fifty dollars. No,

976
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 1: not in the spectacle of Mike Tyson potentially putting Logan

977
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: Paul on his keyster, that's gonna separate you from one

978
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:56,839
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty dollars.

979
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 2: Or somebody maybe putting Tyson on his backside. I may

980
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,879
Speaker 2: maybe I am wrong about that, who knows, but you're right.

981
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 2: If there's no boxer out there now that I'm like, oh,

982
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 2: I'll give you one hundred bucks. I've got to see

983
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 2: that fight right now. I'm ready to go.

984
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 1: No.

985
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 2: I but I did want to see the spectacle of it.

986
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 2: The whole ambiyonce of it. And because you know, Tyson

987
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 2: was a great fighter back in his day, and I

988
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 2: just want to see what a fifty plus year old

989
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 2: can still do out there. That's that's the big reason too.

990
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: So if we do get back, let's go, We'll get

991
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 1: back to the NBA finals quickly. Because I wanted to

992
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: ask you, Dallas wins. Let's say Dallas wins. Right, is

993
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:43,359
Speaker 1: how we think as a sports watching public. Is the

994
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 1: general consensus regarding Kyrie Irving? Does it change instantly? Does

995
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: how we see him how he has talked about change,

996
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: not only because he's won, but one after all of

997
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: what's happened to him, but also winning without Lebron James.

998
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 2: I think it does change the narrative a little bit.

999
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 2: So I will say that I'm not going to say,

1000
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 2: you know, he's not going to be as hated, but

1001
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 2: he's not as hated now. He's still going to be

1002
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:15,240
Speaker 2: a Hall of Famer, but he's a Hall of famer.

1003
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 2: Before the championship, you know, are people saying he's only

1004
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 2: winning because of Lebron? Maybe perhaps that could be one

1005
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 2: of the narratives out there. But yes, I think people

1006
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 2: look at him a little bit different but where was

1007
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 2: it he going to be elevated to still a Hall

1008
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,280
Speaker 2: of Famer, still one of the top what twenty five

1009
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 2: or fifty or whatever you know, poll you want to

1010
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 2: put out there. So how much was it going to

1011
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 2: elevate him? Jason? What were you looking for him to

1012
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 2: go at this point?

1013
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,439
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I certainly don't know where

1014
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 1: you would stand in terms of all time In terms

1015
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:51,399
Speaker 1: of just pure talent, He's way, way, way, way way

1016
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 1: up there, Like just in terms of pure skill as

1017
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: a basketball player on the offensive side, particular the way

1018
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 1: he handles the ball. His vision is basketball like you

1019
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 1: all the same, just flat out off the charts. So

1020
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I think you're right in terms of the

1021
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame and those things. I think if you

1022
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: win without Lebron James, it does change things. Although I

1023
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: mean he would be winning one with Luca. So if

1024
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: we are also having the discussion about Luca maybe being

1025
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 1: the best player in the world if he finishes this,

1026
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 1: which I don't know if that's premature or not, but

1027
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 1: it's not a discussion that shouldn't be had. It's not

1028
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 1: unworthy to talk about.

1029
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 2: Did anything change for you for Kobe Bryant when he

1030
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 2: won without Jack did anything you know, did you go, well,

1031
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 2: now he's really justified himself. Now Kobe's an extra level higher.

1032
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 2: I didn't think anything of it, really didn't really.

1033
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, did you feel differently about

1034
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 1: Brady winning without Belichick?

1035
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 2: Yes, that's one, right, I agree with that.

1036
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 1: I don't know if these are apples to apples comparisons,

1037
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: but that one's true.

1038
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 2: Yes, one percent. I did. And I don't know why.

1039
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 2: I don't know why I'm more into that one then

1040
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 2: Kobe or like you bring up the Kyrie thing, But yes,

1041
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 2: because I wanted to prove that Tom Brady that it

1042
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 2: was Brady not Belichick, and everybody was saying it was

1043
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 2: Belichick not Brady.

1044
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, right, I think that's true. I think that

1045
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 1: when it comes to.

1046
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 2: Whatever side you're on, yeah, or whatever side you're on,

1047
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:17,800
Speaker 2: really yeah.

1048
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:20,240
Speaker 1: I think that when it comes to Kyrie and Lebron,

1049
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,240
Speaker 1: Kyrie doesn't win one without Lebron. I think that's a narrative.

1050
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 1: But I also think on the flip side, Lebron doesn't

1051
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 1: win one without Kyrie, right, right, I think both things

1052
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 1: are true. I don't think Luca can win without Kyrie,

1053
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: and Kyrie certainly's not winning without Luca. Both those things

1054
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 1: are true. I don't know that. I don't know what

1055
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 1: it changes. I think it's less about him as a

1056
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 1: basketball player and what is a legacy as a basketball

1057
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 1: player is, and what his legacy as a teammate a

1058
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 1: leader that side of it. I think that's where he

1059
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 1: has the opportunity to change that narrative, because well, he

1060
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,879
Speaker 1: kind of came across as a cancer for Michael much

1061
00:53:57,920 --> 00:53:58,720
Speaker 1: of his career.

1062
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:02,399
Speaker 2: Michael didn't win until Phil came along. Right, Michael didn't

1063
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 2: win without Scotty, So you know that's kind of yeah,

1064
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 2: that's true. Yeah, and the field thing is, we don't

1065
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 2: say Michael won only because of Phild, but we do

1066
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 2: say that was a big.

1067
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: Part of it.

1068
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 2: Is no doubt about that.

1069
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean almost no one's done it by themselves.

1070
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 1: I mean you could maybe pick out a few where

1071
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 1: there's just been some outrageous performances, I mean amazingly even

1072
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 1: though the team was was still pretty stacked. I mean

1073
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: when Dirk won it, Dirk was kind of a different

1074
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 1: level than every other everybody else on that team, right,

1075
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: But they had some veterans and they had the right

1076
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,879
Speaker 1: kind of role players, and they still I still think

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00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 1: you could argue some other contributing factors that were going

1078
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 1: into that. But you know you talked about Kobe with Shack, Well,

1079
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,359
Speaker 1: I mean, Shaq's not winning it without Kobe either, because

1080
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 1: Shack and Penny couldn't win it, you know, I mean

1081
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 1: they got swept when they were they got swept by

1082
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 1: the Rockets when he was in Orlando. Usually it doesn't

1083
00:54:55,040 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: work that way. Kawhi winning it in Toronto, Oh yeah,

1084
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 1: he did have some help, but he also had some

1085
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 1: help from Kevin Durant and Klay Thompson both getting injured

1086
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 1: in that series. So I think there could be mitigating

1087
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: factors either way. But just as a human being and

1088
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 1: how he is seen as a celebrity as an athlete

1089
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,359
Speaker 1: side of the human being, I should say I think

1090
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 1: that's where Kyrie changed. I think it's fair to say

1091
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 1: the perception could change in a hurry because of how

1092
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 1: this has gone this entire season, Because I mean I

1093
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 1: heard Dan Patrick say it this week. I said it

1094
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 1: a week ago, two weeks ago with you. A few

1095
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 1: weeks ago as well, I had Ameya Kulpa and said, man,

1096
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 1: you know what I was sure this wasn't gonna work.

1097
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 1: But credit to Kyrie Irving, this guy's a lot of

1098
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 1: fun to watch. Even the interviews he's doing on TV

1099
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 1: fascinating stuff. And it sounds the part he sounds like

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00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: he's figured it out.

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00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 2: He does. He's You're one hundred percent right on that.

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00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 2: I agree with. Yet he is certainly going to be

1103
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 2: more likable. I will say that. Like I said, I

1104
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 2: don't know if it's going to elevate anything because he's

1105
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 2: still a Hall of Famer, but he'll be more likable.

1106
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 2: Remember a couple of years ago, the whole Brooklyn thing.

1107
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 2: We were ready to tell him maybe take time off,

1108
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:12,240
Speaker 2: Wodi Jo, you know your days are done. You shouldn't

1109
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 2: even play the NBA if it is gonna make your

1110
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,320
Speaker 2: you know, your number one priority. And the guy showed

1111
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 2: up on some Zoom meeting to you know, talk, you know,

1112
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 2: get something done around a politics. I'm like, what was

1113
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:30,320
Speaker 2: this guy doing? But that's years agoing, Yeah, well I

1114
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:31,839
Speaker 2: don't know about that, but.

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00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 1: I mean I think I think you're right. I mean,

1116
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 1: we were talking about him taking time off because and

1117
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 1: I don't think we were wrong to say there wasn't

1118
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:39,320
Speaker 1: that big a market for Kyrie Irving prior to the

1119
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 1: Dallas saying he was sitting there. He ends up in Dallas,

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00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: they end up kind of tanking the last game to

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00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 1: preserve a draft pick last year. Then in the off season,

1122
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 1: because I heard him asked about this during the Western

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00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,359
Speaker 1: Conference finals. You know, when did you decide or when

1124
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: did you realize you could be a leader for this team?

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00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 1: He said, during the off season when I recognized I

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00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 1: was the one with the ring, and you know, I

1127
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 1: had an opportunity here to kind of play mentor and

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00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 1: facilitate Luca and not worry about my own numbers and

1129
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 1: all that. Like the stuff he was saying, it was

1130
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:10,839
Speaker 1: just like, man, you have had a brain transplant. Man,

1131
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,839
Speaker 1: you have had a heart transplant. And I like it,

1132
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 1: like whatever whatever it is passing around the league because

1133
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 1: sports needs more of that. Like I was all love

1134
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 1: for Kyrie Irving right now, like watching this, this is

1135
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 1: a great redemption arc. It's a great redemption story, and

1136
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 1: I think it's another reminder that America loves a comeback story.

1137
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 1: We will definitely be there for the fall man. We

1138
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 1: will watch the documentaries you make, the made for TV

1139
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 1: movies that you make, the streaming series. All of that

1140
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 1: about the fall, but we might be there for the

1141
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 1: rise too, and most of the time we will and

1142
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 1: we will embrace the comeback in this country.

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00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 2: Well, that's why if Kyrie is a big enough fame

1144
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 2: with Luca to bring more eyes to the to the

1145
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 2: finals ratings, even with the big delay out there, is

1146
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 2: the Celtics a big enough theme. I don't think people

1147
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 2: are going to tune it in into the average fin

1148
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 2: tune in just to see Brown and Tatum, even though

1149
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 2: they're great players. I think they're gonna have to, you know,

1150
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 2: tune in to see Kyrie or Luca or be Anty

1151
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 2: Boston or something like that.

1152
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks, Yeah, has its next team. It's a doozy.

1153
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 1: Is it gonna be good for? Who we already know

1154
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 1: is going to be the star of that show. We'll

1155
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: discuss that next. He's Arnie Spaniard. I'm Jason Martin. This

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00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 1: is Fox Sports Radio, a lot from the Tyreck dot

1157
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 1: Com studios. Welcome back in Fox Sports Saturday, except on

1158
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 1: the East Coast is Fox Sports Sunday. I guess now

1159
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 1: here we are on Fox Sports Radio. You big fan

1160
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 1: of this tune Arnie?

1161
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 2: Uh, the Peter cole Otda song. Right, Yes, who is

1162
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 2: this Rupert Holmes or something like that.

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00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 1: I think that's right.

1164
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 2: Actually, look at me, look at me.

1165
00:58:54,560 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 1: Look at you showing your age, look at me about one.

1166
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 1: You never answered, You just told me what it was.

1167
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 1: I asked you a question. Did you like it? No?

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00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do, absolutely absolutely.

1169
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 1: Drake and Pina Coladas right on the beach. Well, hey,

1170
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 1: hey man, you went to Arizona, so you certainly had

1171
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 1: the opportunities to do that. That's the Chicago Bear is

1172
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 1: gonna have the opportunity to be put on Front Street

1173
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 1: this summer, as they're the subject of this year's edition

1174
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 1: of Hard Knocks from HBO slash Max. That's certainly intriguing

1175
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 1: because Caleb Williams is a Chicago Bear, right, and he's

1176
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 1: gonna be going into his first season right now. We've

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00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 1: seen this before Baker Mayfield and the Browns that year,

1178
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 1: and he had the quarterback deal with Tyrod Taylor and

1179
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson, basically making it very easy for others to

1180
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 1: take his job from him. When you watch some of

1181
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 1: the things that they kind of transpired there, do you

1182
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 1: think and I saw what Matt Eberflew is the head

1183
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 1: coach of the Bear said Arnie, he said, you know,

1184
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 1: you know, Caleb with his personality, should be ready for this.

1185
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 1: He's he's fined in front of the camera all these

1186
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 1: kinds of things. And hebra Flues understands Hard Knocks because

1187
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 1: he was with the Colts when they did the end

1188
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 1: season Hard Knocks with them. So this isn't going to completely,

1189
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 1: you know, catch him Toway off guard. He's not going

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01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 1: to understand how it works. I've talked to people who

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01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 1: have gone through the Hard Knocks experience as coaches, and

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01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 1: they say positive stuff for the most part about it,

1193
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 1: that it's kind of misconceived to be this gotcha environment

1194
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 1: that it isn't. And the short version is the team

1195
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 1: has edit control, full edit control. Nothing airs that they

1196
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 1: don't want to air. They get to see it all.

1197
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 1: They also get to put up hands and put up

1198
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 1: gestures to say, hey, turn off the cameras for this,

1199
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 1: or turn the cameras around. They're not at the mercy

1200
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 1: of those crews. But Caleb Williams and the Bears with

1201
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 1: everything that's happening and all the stories in the offseason,

1202
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:54,960
Speaker 1: even the stuff coming from training camps first week or

1203
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 1: the OTA's first week, even though I think it got

1204
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 1: better this past week. What do you think And is

1205
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 1: this in the best interest of the Bears organization considering

1206
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 1: what they have, you know, in their locker room, and

1207
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 1: how important this this timeframe is for them.

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01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one hundred in their best interests. One, people like, well,

1209
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 2: you know Caleb Williams, We don't need him to get

1210
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 2: nervous around the cameras. And for the guy went to USC,

1211
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 2: he's been like this in front of the camera since

1212
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 2: he was two years old, the number one pick in

1213
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 2: the draft. If this is rattling him a little bit,

1214
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 2: my goodness, wait till the season starts, and then he's

1215
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 2: really going to get rattled. So each you get used

1216
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 2: to the cameras around them, and like you said, they

1217
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 2: have all the edit and first cuts and all that stuff.

1218
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 2: So I think it's a good thing around them. I

1219
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 2: heard those reports about him in practice, that he didn't

1220
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:52,439
Speaker 2: look very good, that they benched him, that he threw

1221
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 2: a lot of interceptions. I don't believe that the one

1222
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 2: that he had seven interceptions in a row, I think

1223
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:00,439
Speaker 2: that's insane. But I do believe the report that he's

1224
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 2: not looked very good. Right now, What does that mean?

1225
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 2: I think that's a warning sign. I think that's a

1226
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 2: warning flag practice or no practice. I know there's no

1227
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 2: games or anything like that. The defense knows what's coming.

1228
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 2: But I do think that's some type of warning sign

1229
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:20,439
Speaker 2: that he's not gonna be, uh, you know, clicking out

1230
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 2: all cylinders and be in the future Hall of Famer,

1231
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 2: like everybody thinks he's gonna be. So there's you better

1232
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 2: be pumping the brakes on him real quick.

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01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, the report's coming out this week were

1234
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 1: totally different. They said, you know, he had a couple

1235
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 1: of incompletions. They're seeing a lot of progress. Uh, he's

1236
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 1: really starting to kind of show a little bit more now.

1237
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 1: They had some of their key defensive guys out, But

1238
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 1: you know, there were there were a lot of positive

1239
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 1: things coming out about him this week. I don't think

1240
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 1: you need to over scrutinize the negative or over praise

1241
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:54,920
Speaker 1: the positive. We we're gonna have to wait and actually

1242
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 1: watch what happens when he's on the field, and there's

1243
01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 1: gonna be some growing pains there.

1244
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 2: I'm why is there gonna be growing pains? I believe

1245
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 2: in him, Why is there growing pains When you're gonna

1246
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 2: be the best guy and check all the boxes like

1247
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 2: everybody says, and that you're a once in a lifetime

1248
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 2: quarterback and a generational type quarterback, Why is there gonna

1249
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 2: be growing pains considering that the Bears got added personnel

1250
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 2: that's gonna make them better from last year. Last year

1251
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 2: they won seven games. So if you're gonna add a

1252
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 2: generational type quarterback, shouldn't you win ten maybe eleven games

1253
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 2: this upcoming year?

1254
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's asking a lot from a

1255
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 1: guy that hasn't played in the league and is gonna

1256
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 1: have to get used to the pace, used to the

1257
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 1: speed difference, and you know, used to the fact that

1258
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 1: he doesn't have Lincoln Riley there. So he's gonna have

1259
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 1: to learn a bit of a new system, new cadences,

1260
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 1: new new scheming, all of those things. There's just a

1261
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 1: lot of change. And now he's completely free, right for

1262
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 1: the first time. Everything has changed now. His college experience

1263
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 1: was much different than a lot of people that came

1264
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 1: years and years before him. But it's a completely new universe.

1265
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 1: Like it's not there's a reason why what we saw

1266
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 1: last year from c. J. Stroud took our breath away

1267
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 1: because you just don't usually see it.

1268
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 2: But there you go, it making.

1269
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 1: I mean even Peyton Manning had two wins and.

1270
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 2: You're making you're making my point. If CJ. Stroud, if

1271
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:18,600
Speaker 2: we knew he was that good, look at the difference

1272
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:21,080
Speaker 2: he makes. Well, if Caleb Williams is just as good

1273
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 2: as c J. Stroud, if not better, he should be

1274
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 2: able to do for the Bears. When when CJ has

1275
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:28,439
Speaker 2: done for the Texans, well, i.

1276
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 1: Mean again, is the right coach, is it the right coordinator?

1277
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 1: Is everything that they have done? Is it all gonna work?

1278
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:37,880
Speaker 1: Or are they gonna deal with injuries? I mean, look at

1279
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 1: Victor Wymbiniana. He had an incredible rookie year and he

1280
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 1: won a lot of games. To say an they didn't right,

1281
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 1: whatever you want to say about Kaitlyn Clark. She had

1282
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 1: eleven points and they won that game yesterday against Chicago

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Speaker 1: by one. But they have two wins on the season.

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Speaker 2: But they don't play a position that makes all the

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Speaker 2: difference in the world like a quarterback does.

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Speaker 1: And that's where you int looking like in Chicago.

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Speaker 2: Well, they don't pay the offensive line the money the

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01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 2: quarterback gets paid, that's for sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I just think, I think I know

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Speaker 1: what you're doing. I just don't think that it's fair

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Speaker 1: to assess it that way. Again, what we saw from

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Speaker 1: c J. Stroud. The reason why we can point to

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Speaker 1: that as an example is because it's rare. If it

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Speaker 1: happened all the time, we wouldn't be able to point

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Speaker 1: to last year as some kind of giant anomaly. It

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01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 1: was an anomaly because it's just generally not the way

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Speaker 1: it goes. And it stood out because even like I think,

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Speaker 1: coming out of that draft, we weren't anticipating c J. Stroud.

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Speaker 1: We looked at the team he was going to and said,

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Speaker 1: there's no way, and it happened kind of out of nowhere.

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Speaker 1: Could it happen for Caleb? Sure it could. I think

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01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 1: he's talented enough. We'll see you better hope.

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01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 2: So after anointing him the next best thing and checking

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01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 2: all the boxes and being a Hall of famers, so

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Speaker 2: I don't want to hear could it be?

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Speaker 1: It better be?

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Speaker 2: Because that's what that's why they took him with the

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01:05:58,800 --> 01:05:59,479
Speaker 2: double one pick.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but how many first picks don't necessarily turn into

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01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 1: that guy.

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Speaker 2: He's not an ordinary first round pick first pick?

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01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 1: Is he now sure he is.

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Speaker 2: You said everybody said he was a generational type quarterback,

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01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 2: that he checked all the boxes, that in the history

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01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 2: of doing this thing, they've never seen a quarterback coming

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01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 2: out of Couche that hit all the boxes like this guy.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if I could go there. I mean,

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Speaker 1: look at Andrew.

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Speaker 2: I mean that was Chris Simms that said that.

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Speaker 1: Well, Chris simp says, well, John Elway, I mean there's

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01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 1: a few names that you could put there. Burrow coming

1322
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 1: out of his year at LSU, and of course Burrow

1323
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 1: they didn't win a lot of games, and then he

1324
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 1: got hurt. So I think it's unfair to put that

1325
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 1: level of expectation on the first year, especially considering the

1326
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:50,960
Speaker 1: Bears haven't seemingly had a quarterback in either one of

1327
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 1: our lifetimes. Just been a long time.

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01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:55,840
Speaker 2: All I'm asking for his three wins more than last year.

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01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 2: That's not that tough.

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01:06:57,400 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, But you also realized that last year they played

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01:06:59,880 --> 01:07:01,960
Speaker 1: with house money, so they certainly could go out and

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01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:04,440
Speaker 1: win as many games as they wanted because they possessed

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01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers number one pick. They made some moves

1334
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:09,760
Speaker 1: and they felt like they were a little head of schedule.

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01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that they're going to take a step

1336
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 1: back this year, but it doesn't necessarily mean that it's

1337
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 1: not going to take time for Caleb Williams to acclimate

1338
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 1: to the NFL and division.

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01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 2: I think where we are division all that that tough either.

1340
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:23,240
Speaker 2: To be honest with you, I mean, is Detroit going

1341
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 2: to be able to keep up the pace of what

1342
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:27,479
Speaker 2: they did last year? You're really buying the Green Bay

1343
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 2: in love. I mean, yeah, what are they going to be?

1344
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:32,640
Speaker 2: Nine and eight or eight nineteen? Who knows? We'll be

1345
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 2: right around me.

1346
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be one of the best divisions

1347
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:35,400
Speaker 1: in football.

1348
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 2: Okay, well, there's your first mistake.

1349
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 1: C J. Stroud was in not one of the best

1350
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:42,640
Speaker 1: divisions in football last year. That'll be the same thing

1351
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 1: this year. Let's go to the best in the business,

1352
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 1: Steve de Seger, and catch up on the latest in

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01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:48,520
Speaker 1: the world of sports.

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01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:52,000
Speaker 4: Hello, gentlemen, you were talking earlier this hour about the

1355
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 4: NBA Finals not starting until Thursday, so Boston would have

1356
01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:58,840
Speaker 4: nine days off. I found an article from five years

1357
01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 4: ago where Golden State had nine days off before starting

1358
01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 4: its finals, and that New Jersey about twenty years ago

1359
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 4: had ten days off before starting at finals against the Spurs,

1360
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:12,920
Speaker 4: and apparently the record was the nineteen eighty two Lakers

1361
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 4: with Magic and Kareem eleven days off before starting and

1362
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 4: winning the finals against Philadelphia.

1363
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:21,719
Speaker 1: We have had two.

1364
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 4: Years in a row in the NBA postseason nearly each

1365
01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 4: conference final being as sweeped. That's never happened in the

1366
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:32,479
Speaker 4: same year each conference, but we've come close, including this year.

1367
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 4: Last year, you might remember Miami was up three games

1368
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:39,600
Speaker 4: to none in the East Finals and then lost the

1369
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:42,120
Speaker 4: next three games in a row. So come Memorial Night,

1370
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:45,160
Speaker 4: we had a Game seven with Miami winning at Boston,

1371
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:48,639
Speaker 4: but then a few days later the NBA Finals began.

1372
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 4: That was on a June first, the NBA Finals began

1373
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:55,599
Speaker 4: last year. Yes, it's June sixth this year, but they

1374
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 4: are following the same type of pattern where one team

1375
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:01,920
Speaker 4: hosts a Thursday and Sunday to begin, and then the

1376
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 4: next team hosts a Wednesday and Friday as it continues.

1377
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:07,760
Speaker 4: That's how it was last year in the finals. Just

1378
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 4: for the record, we do have the Stanley Cup Finals

1379
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 4: starting in one week June eighth, and Florida will be there.

1380
01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 4: This is a stunning stat for ice hockey, the state

1381
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:19,920
Speaker 4: of Florida has had the Eastern Conference champion five years

1382
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:22,760
Speaker 4: in a row. Now yeah, Tampa Bay three years in

1383
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 4: a row, and now the Florida Panthers two straight years.

1384
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 4: They eliminated the top seed New York Rangers in Game

1385
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 4: six of the East Final tonight, two to one, which

1386
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:36,639
Speaker 4: means Paul Maurice, who got this team into the final

1387
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:39,720
Speaker 4: and lost last year, now at age fifty seven, is

1388
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 4: bidding to be the second oldest coach ever to win

1389
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 4: his first Stanley Cup because last year for Vegas, Bruce

1390
01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 4: Cassidy was fifty eight when he got his first title.

1391
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 4: As for late night Major League Baseball, there was a

1392
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:53,799
Speaker 4: rain delay at Wrigley of over three hours. At the start.

1393
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 4: The game with the Cubs and Reds is tied five

1394
01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 4: to five in the top of the seventh, The Dodgers

1395
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 4: are still leading the He's for to one in the

1396
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:03,640
Speaker 4: bottom of the eighth, and the Yankees have won at

1397
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:06,760
Speaker 4: San Francisco seven to three. Aaron Judge a two run

1398
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:10,559
Speaker 4: homer in the first his twenty first Gencarlo Stanton with

1399
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:13,800
Speaker 4: a late two run homer. This means the Yankees record win.

1400
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 4: Both Stanton and Judge homer in the same game is

1401
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 4: thirty eight and four in the Yankees careers. By the way,

1402
01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:24,120
Speaker 4: that would be forty two different games with a've homer

1403
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:27,640
Speaker 4: same game as Yankees Ruth and Gerrig homered in the

1404
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 4: same game seventy five.

1405
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:31,840
Speaker 2: Times in this my team, my Yankees.

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01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:35,879
Speaker 4: Well, there's the kiss of death. Philadelphia won again. Yeah, exactly,

1407
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 4: He's already kissing this season.

1408
01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:41,800
Speaker 2: Goodbye is playing this year.

1409
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:44,680
Speaker 4: As opposed to other years.

1410
01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:45,680
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly.

1411
01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:49,200
Speaker 4: Philadelphia is forty one and eighteen and beat Saint Louis

1412
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:51,599
Speaker 4: by a six to one final. But Philly's starting pitcher

1413
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 4: Ranger Suarez, who's nine to one, left early with a

1414
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:57,080
Speaker 4: bruised hand hit by a line drive. Mets lost at

1415
01:10:57,080 --> 01:10:59,439
Speaker 4: home ten to five to Arizona, a team that had

1416
01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 4: lost five in a row. Oakland wonted Atlanta eleven to nine.

1417
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 4: Cleveland and Baltimore each one again. There's a three way

1418
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 4: tie for the lead at the US Women's Open, including

1419
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:12,200
Speaker 4: American Andrea lead number one rank Nelly Corda missed the

1420
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 4: cut yesterday. She shot a first round eighty. This is Corda,

1421
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:18,519
Speaker 4: who had six victories in her past seven tournaments, not

1422
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:21,800
Speaker 4: this weekend. Robert McIntyre leads by four strokes. At the

1423
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 4: Canadian Open, Rory McElroy shot sixty five and moved up

1424
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 4: to a tie for eleventh place. At the French Open,

1425
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 4: Number one Novak Djokovic won in five sets, six love

1426
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 4: and the fifth tonight against Lorenzo Musetti, and I mean

1427
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:39,120
Speaker 4: late tonight. The third rounder ended after three am. In Paris,

1428
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 4: women's number two Arena Sabalanca won her third round match.

1429
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:46,080
Speaker 4: Emma Navarro beat fellow American Madison Keys seven six seven six.

1430
01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 4: Cocoa Goff plays a fourth rounder tomorrow, and we can

1431
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:52,800
Speaker 4: update college baseball in progress. The number three ranked team

1432
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:55,680
Speaker 4: in the country, Texas A and M at home, is

1433
01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:58,720
Speaker 4: tied to two in the eleventh I'm watching that game now,

1434
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:03,839
Speaker 4: Texas Longhorn Warrens. You may have heard that Dallas Baptist

1435
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:05,479
Speaker 4: eliminated Arizona today.

1436
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:08,759
Speaker 2: That's uncalled for him seven.

1437
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:11,680
Speaker 4: Nothing is the fun ran once we hit the y

1438
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:15,320
Speaker 4: after the Wildcats lost at home to Granton yesterday.

1439
01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:16,519
Speaker 1: More like that.

1440
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 4: You know, this was actually usually Arizona basketball. This is

1441
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 4: apparently the rest of the athletic department.

1442
01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:25,040
Speaker 2: We're a football school now.

1443
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:27,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, onto the Big twelve back to.

1444
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:31,480
Speaker 1: You, what are you talking about? After the break, Steve.

1445
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 4: We will get too something that the WNBA needs to stop,

1446
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:40,040
Speaker 4: and also some more baseball details because some teams are

1447
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:43,759
Speaker 4: separating themselves from the packs and in time permitting NBA

1448
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:44,719
Speaker 4: Finals preview.

1449
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:47,559
Speaker 1: That's exciting, all right, We're going to get the break

1450
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:49,800
Speaker 1: here momentarily as a matter of fact, because I want

1451
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:53,559
Speaker 1: plenty of time with Steve. He mentioned a WNBA Arnie.

1452
01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 1: I know we want to talk a little Caitlin Clark,

1453
01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:58,599
Speaker 1: but we luckily have a full hour. There's a couple

1454
01:12:58,600 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 1: of things I want to get into in the third

1455
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 1: our Brownie James, your boy, Hey, your your boys in Miami,

1456
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:10,200
Speaker 1: paying Jayalen Waddle, big sane money, big we got, we

1457
01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:17,720
Speaker 1: got Kylie Kelsey in an incident, apologized too, and then

1458
01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 1: we got Gable. Steve's into the Bills and the rest

1459
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:25,320
Speaker 1: of that story, which I certainly can tell you about

1460
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 1: just because of my both history working in and around

1461
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:34,639
Speaker 1: the world of professional wrestling. He goes from WWEE to

1462
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:37,640
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. There's a reason for that. So we'll

1463
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:39,200
Speaker 1: get to all of that. But I want to talk

1464
01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:41,400
Speaker 1: to Steve, so we'll listen to him when we come back.

1465
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:44,880
Speaker 1: He's he's chomping at the bit, so we'll do that.

1466
01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 1: On the flip side. We are live here in the

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Speaker 1: tire Rack dot Com studios. Arnie Spaniel would be I'm

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Speaker 1: Jason Martin. Here on Fox Sports Radio. We're live in

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Speaker 1: the tie Rack dot Com Studios, Fox Sports Saturday. He

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Speaker 1: the master of Knowledge and Research, Steve Disager.

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Speaker 4: Guys watched another WNBA telecast today. There was one game

1479
01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 4: Indiana which was one in eight got on TV with

1480
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:39,360
Speaker 4: Caitlin Clark against Angel Rees of Chicago, Indiana one seventy

1481
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:42,639
Speaker 4: one seventy. The stats for the two stars, by the way,

1482
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:46,240
Speaker 4: Angel Rease two of nine shooting from the floor, thirteen rebounds,

1483
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 4: Caitlin Clark from three point range two of nine, six assists,

1484
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:53,920
Speaker 4: five turnovers. She finished with eleven points, eight rebounds, and

1485
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:55,879
Speaker 4: Indiana plays at New York tomorrow.

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01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 2: Can I just meant go ahead, Arnie Well, I was

1487
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:00,880
Speaker 2: gonna say. I watched some of the game. Reason I

1488
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 2: tuned into that game was for Caitlyn Clark. I saw

1489
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:07,559
Speaker 2: the foul that they did on her. They bumped it

1490
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 2: to the ground, and they threw it to the ground.

1491
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:11,880
Speaker 4: Before the pass came in. It was a dead ball.

1492
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:13,040
Speaker 4: Fel is a cheap shot.

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01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:17,639
Speaker 2: It is getting out of hand for a girl that

1494
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:22,479
Speaker 2: is bringing eyes and popularity to a sport. And make

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01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:26,559
Speaker 2: no mistake about it, she could care less about the

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01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:30,559
Speaker 2: w NBA if it wasn't for Caitlyn Clark. There are

1497
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:33,920
Speaker 2: some great ballplayers in that league. I used to watch

1498
01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:37,800
Speaker 2: the league. But you are ridiculous, as Charles Barkley put it,

1499
01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:41,360
Speaker 2: you're being very petty. I don't know what Angel Reeves

1500
01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 2: is doing clapping and being.

1501
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:46,559
Speaker 4: Happy, congratulated the person that bumped Clark to the ground.

1502
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 2: And I guess the Kennedy, the one that put Clark

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01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 2: to the ground, was liking tweets about people that were

1504
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:55,120
Speaker 2: agreeing with her.

1505
01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:57,080
Speaker 4: And would not answer a question about it.

1506
01:15:57,120 --> 01:15:59,599
Speaker 2: At the time, I saw that, and that just made

1507
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 2: things Why don't you answer the question like an adult?

1508
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 2: I think this is partly its race. I think they

1509
01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:09,760
Speaker 2: don't like her because she's white. I don't think it

1510
01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:14,719
Speaker 2: asks any attention. The attention, but it's not because she's white.

1511
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:18,479
Speaker 2: And as people from the view or whatever say, because

1512
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 2: she's pretty and all that, there's a lot of pretty

1513
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:26,240
Speaker 2: women in the WNBA. There's a lot of girls that

1514
01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:29,560
Speaker 2: could go ahead also that could play in the WNBA.

1515
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:33,000
Speaker 2: So for them to be so petty over Caitlin Clark,

1516
01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:35,600
Speaker 2: it is just getting absolutely out of hand. It really is.

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01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:37,479
Speaker 4: And I think the answer to the question why couldn't

1518
01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:39,880
Speaker 4: they answer the question afterwards like an adult, is because

1519
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 4: she didn't play like an adult. Maybe she's not one

1520
01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:45,360
Speaker 4: on the court. Maybe that's what we saw. I will

1521
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:47,880
Speaker 4: say that one of the great WNBA stars in the

1522
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:51,439
Speaker 4: past is the Chicago coach Teresa Weatherspoon, which brings up

1523
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:56,439
Speaker 4: my point that the WNBA continues to try to interview

1524
01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:59,320
Speaker 4: the coach during the game. This is not like the

1525
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:02,519
Speaker 4: NBA where they tape the interview after the quarter ends

1526
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:05,120
Speaker 4: and then they air it when they come back from commercial.

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01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:05,360
Speaker 1: No.

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01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:09,160
Speaker 4: No, the w NBA telecasts, they wait till they come

1529
01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:12,720
Speaker 4: back from the commercials. The game is going on. The

1530
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:15,439
Speaker 4: coach is standing on the sidelines kind of you know,

1531
01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:18,960
Speaker 4: coaching and with an earpie center here, trying to hear

1532
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:22,000
Speaker 4: the question and trying to answer while her team is

1533
01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:27,960
Speaker 4: playing in the game. It's atrocious, and the constant problems technically,

1534
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:31,080
Speaker 4: as you might guess, are not helping either. And it

1535
01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:34,880
Speaker 4: needs to stop. I appreciate you trying something new, it

1536
01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 4: doesn't work. Please ESPN stop trying to interview coaches while

1537
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:44,240
Speaker 4: the game is improbable. Why is that?

1538
01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 1: What's next?

1539
01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:49,799
Speaker 4: It's not working? Please stop. We can update the College

1540
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:54,719
Speaker 4: Baseball Texas A and M, but they are the visiting

1541
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:56,680
Speaker 4: team tonight, so we go to the bottom of the

1542
01:17:56,680 --> 01:17:59,600
Speaker 4: eleventh up four to two on Texas. I don't know

1543
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:02,280
Speaker 4: if you've heard, but Arizona got eliminated today by Dallas

1544
01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:05,040
Speaker 4: Bath talking about that, but there's a great story at

1545
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:08,639
Speaker 4: the Division III World Series because Birmingham Southern is still alive.

1546
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:11,680
Speaker 4: Ladies and gentlemen, why is this a story because their

1547
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:16,240
Speaker 4: school is not I mean literally, the college closed yesterday

1548
01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:20,600
Speaker 4: and Birmingham Southern baseball is still playing. They had a

1549
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:23,719
Speaker 4: comeback victory nine to seven at the Division three World

1550
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:28,280
Speaker 4: Series today. Birmingham Southern apparently made its national title game

1551
01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:31,599
Speaker 4: five years ago and lost. This is a school that

1552
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:35,680
Speaker 4: was expecting or needing a loan from the state of Alabama,

1553
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:38,439
Speaker 4: but announced a couple months ago that that wasn't coming

1554
01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:41,679
Speaker 4: and closing the school was necessary. So again I must

1555
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 4: say out loud a sentence that the school's team is

1556
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:48,919
Speaker 4: still playing. The school itself does not exist.

1557
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:51,719
Speaker 2: Do you get straight a's if you're on the team

1558
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:54,280
Speaker 2: and you know it's the last.

1559
01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:57,679
Speaker 4: I'm wondering what happens? Yeah, what happens to even records?

1560
01:18:57,720 --> 01:19:00,679
Speaker 4: They had enrollment of thirteen hundred students. But he's going

1561
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:03,080
Speaker 4: somewhere else, including all the baseball players, and I.

1562
01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 2: Still get a T shirt. That's the big place, and

1563
01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:06,240
Speaker 2: I want to be able to get a teach.

1564
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:09,519
Speaker 4: We will save the NBA Finals talk until tomorrow night,

1565
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 4: because you guys are on tomorrow right.

1566
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, al there you go.

1567
01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:16,280
Speaker 4: Because Chris Plank has he's a little busy. Number two

1568
01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:19,840
Speaker 4: Oklahoma edged UCLA won nothing at the College Softball World

1569
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 4: Series today. Winners Bracket game, so onto the Semis. Same

1570
01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:27,560
Speaker 4: for number one Texas, which shut out Florida ten to nothing. Tomorrow.

1571
01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:32,479
Speaker 4: Two elimination games Ucla against Stanford, Florida against Alabama. And

1572
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:36,639
Speaker 4: among the MLB teams that are separating themselves, Philadelphia forty

1573
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 4: one and eighteen beat the Cardinals tonight, Yankees forty one

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01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:44,160
Speaker 4: and nineteen one at San Francisco again, Cleveland is thirty

1575
01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:47,559
Speaker 4: nine and nineteen held on to beat Washington today and

1576
01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:51,240
Speaker 4: Baltimore thirty seven and nineteen. The Orioles beat Tampa Bay.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff. Steve will chat with to Sagre again in

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01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:05,320
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1581
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Speaker 1: We do want to talk Bronnie James. We do want

1582
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:11,400
Speaker 1: to talk Jayalen Waddle and some other stuff including Caitlin Clark.

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Speaker 1: at Foxsports Radio. We're in June already, Arnie.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, people are coveting about the Caitlin Clark w NBA thing. Okay,

1594
01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:57,160
Speaker 2: they're Clarks. Well, Brendan says, I'm not a WNBA fan,

1595
01:20:57,200 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 2: but I would say that if Kaitlin Clark were to

1596
01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:02,400
Speaker 2: get seriously injured by a reckless or intentional act by

1597
01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 2: an opponent, the consequences should be severe, such as a

1598
01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:11,280
Speaker 2: season long suspension and potential criminal charges against the opponent.

1599
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 2: And another person puts in in this tweet that said

1600
01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:18,960
Speaker 2: Chicago cheap shots on WNB lottery ticket Caitlin Clark. The

1601
01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:23,160
Speaker 2: fever GM is seriously pissed off at the league offense

1602
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:25,880
Speaker 2: right now. So there is a lot of people on

1603
01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:28,960
Speaker 2: Caitlin's Clark's side after what happened in that game today.

1604
01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:31,559
Speaker 1: So I'll tell you, and I mean I first guessed this.

1605
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:34,360
Speaker 1: We know Torres and I talked about it. You and

1606
01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:36,120
Speaker 1: I may have talked about it as well. By the way,

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01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:37,800
Speaker 1: Aaron Torre is out for the next couple of weeks

1608
01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:43,120
Speaker 1: on vacation, hopefully enjoying his time away. You know, I said,

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01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:47,919
Speaker 1: Caitlin Clark's gonna have a rough because there is clearly jealousy.

1610
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:52,439
Speaker 1: There is clearly kind of It almost feels like they

1611
01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:54,960
Speaker 1: would rather their league failed than herb be the reason

1612
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:58,200
Speaker 1: it succeeds, right, And I don't really know all the

1613
01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:00,479
Speaker 1: factors that go into it. I know that there's pie

1614
01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:03,280
Speaker 1: there and there are several different factors that can play

1615
01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:07,280
Speaker 1: into it. But her getting hard fouled and stuff. This

1616
01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:09,680
Speaker 1: ain't They're gonna be the last time. I just I

1617
01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:11,840
Speaker 1: keep waiting to see how long this is gonna happen.

1618
01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:15,720
Speaker 1: And behind closed doors, if you are someone in the

1619
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:19,840
Speaker 1: WNBA league office, I don't know who those people are

1620
01:22:20,240 --> 01:22:23,200
Speaker 1: by name, but you should be making it clear to

1621
01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 1: everyone in that league, whether it's public or private, this

1622
01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:32,880
Speaker 1: can't happen right because you have one walk of Golden ticket.

1623
01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:34,840
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna steal it from Ben Mallory right now.

1624
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:38,400
Speaker 1: You've got you got one ticket right now. In terms

1625
01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:41,760
Speaker 1: of interest, it doesn't mean there's not other players that

1626
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:46,080
Speaker 1: could potentially kind of drift off of this, But you

1627
01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:51,679
Speaker 1: cannot afford not to have Caitlin Clark because outside of

1628
01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:55,640
Speaker 1: looking at her stat lines and what she's doing, the WNBA,

1629
01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:58,160
Speaker 1: to me is exactly what it's always been. I've read

1630
01:22:58,160 --> 01:23:00,960
Speaker 1: every article about Kate and Clark is just one of

1631
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:04,479
Speaker 1: many rookies that are lighting it up. No, no, you've

1632
01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:07,920
Speaker 1: got one period. Doesn't mean that those other players aren't good.

1633
01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:10,479
Speaker 1: It means they're not drawing cards. There's a difference.

1634
01:23:10,479 --> 01:23:13,599
Speaker 2: They're not polarizing. When is the last time we've seen

1635
01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:17,280
Speaker 2: such jealousy in sports? Anyway? It wasn't like this when

1636
01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:20,240
Speaker 2: Larry Burdon, Magic Johnson came in the league to save

1637
01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:22,080
Speaker 2: the NBA. It wasn't like there was people in the

1638
01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:25,160
Speaker 2: league going, man, we hate those guys and we're gonna

1639
01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:27,680
Speaker 2: teach them a lesson, and you know, they're saving the

1640
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:31,479
Speaker 2: NBA and taking it to new heights. Nobody did anything

1641
01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:33,719
Speaker 2: like that when when they came into the league.

1642
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:35,479
Speaker 1: I think there have been names. I think they've been

1643
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:37,720
Speaker 1: a polarizing names, but a lot of them didn't come

1644
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:41,880
Speaker 1: in expected to be this Like Tebow. It's not like

1645
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:45,040
Speaker 1: people expected Tebow to come into the NFL and beat

1646
01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:49,240
Speaker 1: Joe Montana. But there was a polarizing factor to Tim

1647
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:51,280
Speaker 1: Tebow and a drawing factor.

1648
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:53,400
Speaker 2: But there wasn't a to chellb like there is.

1649
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:55,880
Speaker 1: No because no one expected him be that good. Here,

1650
01:23:56,120 --> 01:23:58,760
Speaker 1: people are assuming Caitlin Clark might go down as, you know,

1651
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:02,240
Speaker 1: the greatest women's player ever. That's that's yet to be determined.

1652
01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:04,679
Speaker 1: That's gonna take time. But what you're seeing in college,

1653
01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:08,000
Speaker 1: you can understand why the hyperbole is there already, why

1654
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 1: you're already speaking in that kind of puffery.

1655
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:12,639
Speaker 2: Do you think there'll be more jealousy to a Caitlin

1656
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:14,759
Speaker 2: Clark or somebody like Bronnie James.

1657
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:18,120
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any jealousy toward Bronnie James. But

1658
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:20,120
Speaker 1: I actually almost talk about let's go ahead, talk about

1659
01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:20,639
Speaker 1: Brinne James.

1660
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:23,439
Speaker 2: What's the word I'm looking for? Hatred then?

1661
01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 1: Or I you know what, here's the question I have. Okay,

1662
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:31,000
Speaker 1: it's it's branching off that same tree, but I come

1663
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:35,000
Speaker 1: at it from a different angle. Do you feel Torre

1664
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:37,679
Speaker 1: has actually used this terminology last week? I think he's

1665
01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:39,599
Speaker 1: The more I thought about it, the more I've kind

1666
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:43,519
Speaker 1: of come to feel similarly. Do you kind of feel

1667
01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:47,479
Speaker 1: sorry for Bronnie James? Do you feel sympathy for Bronnie James?

1668
01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:52,360
Speaker 2: Yes, I do, I do. I do feel some sympathy.

1669
01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:57,040
Speaker 2: I do feel sorry for him. I don't think he's

1670
01:24:57,040 --> 01:25:00,920
Speaker 2: an NBA type tabent. I don't think he's be drafted.

1671
01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:03,799
Speaker 2: I saw somebody put up the stats of Michael Jordan's

1672
01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:08,920
Speaker 2: son who doubled Lebron's Bronny's stats when he played. I

1673
01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:10,960
Speaker 2: think it was at Central Ford or something like that.

1674
01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:17,000
Speaker 2: This is all orchestrated by lebron and what Clutch Sports

1675
01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:21,000
Speaker 2: and now and with ESPN, and I got to say something, Look,

1676
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:24,439
Speaker 2: I know we have a competition with ESPN when it

1677
01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:27,960
Speaker 2: comes to radio and TV and stuff like that, but

1678
01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:32,320
Speaker 2: shame on them with the narrative that they're putting out there,

1679
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:38,880
Speaker 2: Like Brodny James is like the number fifty five rank

1680
01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:43,040
Speaker 2: person and the Lakers happen to have number fifty four pick,

1681
01:25:43,080 --> 01:25:45,559
Speaker 2: and then what was it last year they had Brodny

1682
01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:48,320
Speaker 2: in the first rout and like the top twelve or

1683
01:25:48,640 --> 01:25:53,719
Speaker 2: or fifteen picks. They're embarrassing, they really are. Their narrative

1684
01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:54,559
Speaker 2: is getting old.

1685
01:25:54,680 --> 01:26:00,800
Speaker 1: And really it's transparently. It's very much transparently. I don't

1686
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:03,200
Speaker 1: mean that like literally bon paper, but in terms of

1687
01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:08,400
Speaker 1: like access and how it's all been orchestrated. It's his

1688
01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:10,799
Speaker 1: astro turf as astro turf gets it.

1689
01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:12,720
Speaker 2: Is, and it's it's not a good it's not a

1690
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:16,679
Speaker 2: good look. And you know enough about me picking on them,

1691
01:26:16,720 --> 01:26:18,679
Speaker 2: But yeah, I feel bad for Bronnie.

1692
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:19,160
Speaker 1: I do.

1693
01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:23,559
Speaker 2: I I think he would certainly benefit by another two,

1694
01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:26,800
Speaker 2: three or four years in college. I don't know where

1695
01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:29,160
Speaker 2: he would go if he'd go to Duquane or I

1696
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:32,280
Speaker 2: know it's too late now, but I just he's gonna

1697
01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:35,120
Speaker 2: make the NBA. He's gonna be on the roster with Lebron,

1698
01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:38,120
Speaker 2: But he doesn't deserve to be on that roster.

1699
01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:41,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. The reason why their's sympathy is because there's nothing

1700
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:45,080
Speaker 1: he can do right, There's no choice that he can make.

1701
01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:47,400
Speaker 1: Like you know, I talked to some people in college

1702
01:26:47,439 --> 01:26:50,479
Speaker 1: basketball circles this week, and you know, there's nowhere for

1703
01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:54,080
Speaker 1: Bronnie James to even go because no one really wants

1704
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:56,799
Speaker 1: to take him on because there's going to be pressure

1705
01:26:56,800 --> 01:27:01,360
Speaker 1: behind the scenes from Lebron's camp somewhere he's got to play.

1706
01:27:01,400 --> 01:27:03,200
Speaker 1: You got to make sure he's got the ball in

1707
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:05,680
Speaker 1: his hands, that kind of thing, because we got to

1708
01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:08,360
Speaker 1: make sure that he is seen as a pro prospect

1709
01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:10,040
Speaker 1: going forward and all this and this is all coming

1710
01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:12,840
Speaker 1: second hands, not like Lebron told me this directly, but

1711
01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:15,280
Speaker 1: you can understand this. You can understand this. A father

1712
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:18,080
Speaker 1: wants his son to succeed, and this guy desperately wants

1713
01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:19,840
Speaker 1: to play with his son or at least see his

1714
01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:22,759
Speaker 1: son flourish in the league. And you know that's laundable

1715
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:27,479
Speaker 1: to an extent. But Bronnie James, you see some of

1716
01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:30,280
Speaker 1: the names of and are choosing to go back to school,

1717
01:27:30,439 --> 01:27:33,639
Speaker 1: right like Caravan who just won his second straight national

1718
01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:39,080
Speaker 1: championship at Connecticut, and Mark Sears at Alabama, and names

1719
01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:42,280
Speaker 1: that guys that contributed in a big love, big way,

1720
01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:47,640
Speaker 1: and guys that were critical to championship ish runs for

1721
01:27:47,720 --> 01:27:51,439
Speaker 1: their teams, and they're going back to school. Bronnie James,

1722
01:27:51,439 --> 01:27:54,800
Speaker 1: who did next to nothing coming off the medical scare,

1723
01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:56,960
Speaker 1: and we're glad he's healthy from that, yeah, but no

1724
01:27:57,000 --> 01:27:59,080
Speaker 1: one is like looking at him and saying, well, now

1725
01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:00,760
Speaker 1: we're going to project him to be a thirty to

1726
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:04,360
Speaker 1: fifteen and ten. Guy. No one sees that coming. But

1727
01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:08,880
Speaker 1: he's going to forgo his eligibility and stay in the

1728
01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:13,479
Speaker 1: NBA draft, and he's gonna cancel workouts except for two teams.

1729
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:14,760
Speaker 2: That's the every other.

1730
01:28:14,760 --> 01:28:16,200
Speaker 1: Man laid out for him.

1731
01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:19,320
Speaker 2: That's another amazing part. When you're barely gonna be a

1732
01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:21,680
Speaker 2: draft pick to begin with, you're gonna work out for

1733
01:28:21,760 --> 01:28:24,679
Speaker 2: any team and every team that asks you. He's turned

1734
01:28:24,720 --> 01:28:28,000
Speaker 2: down everybody other than the Lakers and Phoenix. And I'm

1735
01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:31,719
Speaker 2: really getting with this whole nepotism thing, and it's all

1736
01:28:31,720 --> 01:28:33,799
Speaker 2: over the place and certainly in a lot of fields.

1737
01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:36,759
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, I'll come down to your level, Jason,

1738
01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:39,800
Speaker 2: how about this. You have two young kids. My level, Well,

1739
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:41,040
Speaker 2: you have two young kids.

1740
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:41,400
Speaker 1: Okay.

1741
01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:45,479
Speaker 2: You know the Lion King controversy, right, you heard about that.

1742
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:49,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not sure I have heard that.

1743
01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:52,519
Speaker 2: The play The Lion King. It's off Broadway or on

1744
01:28:52,640 --> 01:28:56,479
Speaker 2: Broadway or whatever. They were having major tryouts and the

1745
01:28:56,520 --> 01:29:01,720
Speaker 2: mother of one of the kids, who's daughter has been

1746
01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:05,880
Speaker 2: in like off Broadway twice, on Broadway twice, there was

1747
01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:08,880
Speaker 2: like a million kids trying out. Her kid was picked

1748
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:14,520
Speaker 2: for the final three, All three, she said, were extremely talented,

1749
01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:18,760
Speaker 2: All three have done Broadway, All three were phenomenal singers.

1750
01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:22,560
Speaker 2: All three kids were just would have been great choices.

1751
01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:26,200
Speaker 2: And there was a rumor that a parent was coming

1752
01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:28,960
Speaker 2: in to get their kid the lead part. And who

1753
01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:31,160
Speaker 2: do you think came in through the front door? None

1754
01:29:31,200 --> 01:29:32,720
Speaker 2: other than Kim Kardashian.

1755
01:29:33,120 --> 01:29:36,719
Speaker 1: Okay, I didn't know anything about this story.

1756
01:29:36,760 --> 01:29:41,240
Speaker 2: Whose kid Northwest, who had no talent whatsoever, got the

1757
01:29:41,680 --> 01:29:45,400
Speaker 2: got the part of the Lion King. You can't do that.

1758
01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:48,840
Speaker 2: You can't do that, and that's that's just a play

1759
01:29:49,080 --> 01:29:52,160
Speaker 2: on Broadway. You can't have your kid play on an

1760
01:29:52,240 --> 01:29:55,360
Speaker 2: NBA team if he doesn't deserve it. Your kid can't

1761
01:29:55,400 --> 01:29:58,200
Speaker 2: be the lead on the Lion King if he has

1762
01:29:58,240 --> 01:30:01,200
Speaker 2: no talent like the other kid. You just can't have

1763
01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:03,479
Speaker 2: this going on right now. And there was a big

1764
01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:05,439
Speaker 2: controversy about that why and King thing.

1765
01:30:06,520 --> 01:30:09,880
Speaker 1: So we were talking earlier about, you know, the polarizing

1766
01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:14,040
Speaker 1: nature of a Luka Dancic or a Kyrie Irving even

1767
01:30:14,160 --> 01:30:16,120
Speaker 1: or some of these kind of factors will be watching

1768
01:30:16,160 --> 01:30:20,559
Speaker 1: the NBA Finals. I think the biggest concern for Bronni

1769
01:30:20,760 --> 01:30:23,320
Speaker 1: is I don't think anybody's going to be rooting for

1770
01:30:23,400 --> 01:30:26,880
Speaker 1: him to play well. I think that because of the

1771
01:30:26,920 --> 01:30:31,519
Speaker 1: way this has played out and the nepotism and the

1772
01:30:32,320 --> 01:30:35,360
Speaker 1: power just to kind of power grab and the power

1773
01:30:35,439 --> 01:30:38,639
Speaker 1: fantasy that this kind of has become for Lebron James,

1774
01:30:39,080 --> 01:30:42,160
Speaker 1: he has set his son up to It doesn't matter

1775
01:30:42,560 --> 01:30:45,200
Speaker 1: what he does, people are going to turn it into

1776
01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:49,080
Speaker 1: a mockery because he didn't. It wasn't merit. It wasn't

1777
01:30:49,160 --> 01:30:51,760
Speaker 1: merit based, right. That's and I don't know what you're

1778
01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:55,200
Speaker 1: supposed to do if you're Bronni say shove off, I'm

1779
01:30:55,240 --> 01:30:56,599
Speaker 1: going to go back to college and try to make

1780
01:30:56,600 --> 01:30:58,960
Speaker 1: it on my own. Yeah all that, No, I mean,

1781
01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:01,400
Speaker 1: I don't think he has that choice. I don't know

1782
01:31:01,439 --> 01:31:02,000
Speaker 1: that he does.

1783
01:31:02,200 --> 01:31:04,799
Speaker 2: Want to stand up to your father? You can't do that, right.

1784
01:31:05,479 --> 01:31:07,240
Speaker 1: I mean, what's his father gonna tell him? Though?

1785
01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:10,800
Speaker 2: Don't go back to college. Keep doing I want you to.

1786
01:31:10,800 --> 01:31:13,760
Speaker 2: You'll be gonna make an NBA team. You're gonna make money.

1787
01:31:13,800 --> 01:31:15,600
Speaker 1: You're gonna make an NBA team, But you might not

1788
01:31:15,720 --> 01:31:18,920
Speaker 1: make a college starting five. Right. Think about that for

1789
01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:23,400
Speaker 1: a second. So what choice does he really have? Like

1790
01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:29,200
Speaker 1: that's you know, it's a tough situation, but I think

1791
01:31:29,240 --> 01:31:31,760
Speaker 1: he's I don't think there's any way that he's going

1792
01:31:31,800 --> 01:31:35,799
Speaker 1: to be, you know, beloved. Even if you feel sympathy

1793
01:31:35,840 --> 01:31:37,680
Speaker 1: for him, it's just kind of your waiting for the

1794
01:31:37,720 --> 01:31:38,839
Speaker 1: inevitable failure.

1795
01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:41,600
Speaker 2: Well, suppose Lebron was a doctor and he wanted his

1796
01:31:41,680 --> 01:31:43,960
Speaker 2: kid to be a doctor. The kids like I can't

1797
01:31:43,960 --> 01:31:46,360
Speaker 2: even stay at the side of bad. He would eventually

1798
01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:49,160
Speaker 2: go to his father, go, you know, be it a surgeon,

1799
01:31:49,240 --> 01:31:53,080
Speaker 2: emergency room surgeon. I'm not cut out for that. Maybe

1800
01:31:53,080 --> 01:31:55,680
Speaker 2: it's good for you and you you've got a you know,

1801
01:31:56,280 --> 01:31:59,559
Speaker 2: a mind, and you're smart as hell, and you love

1802
01:31:59,600 --> 01:32:02,320
Speaker 2: the cut the people me, I get queasy at but

1803
01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:04,960
Speaker 2: I just eventually, you gotta tell your dad. I can't

1804
01:32:04,960 --> 01:32:07,760
Speaker 2: do it. I can't become a surgent. Eventually you gotta

1805
01:32:07,800 --> 01:32:10,640
Speaker 2: tell you dad, I'm not an NBA type player and

1806
01:32:10,680 --> 01:32:12,400
Speaker 2: I want to go back to college. It's it's up

1807
01:32:12,439 --> 01:32:13,080
Speaker 2: to the kid.

1808
01:32:14,760 --> 01:32:17,040
Speaker 1: Whose dream is it to be an NBA player More

1809
01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:19,000
Speaker 1: Bronni's or Lebron's.

1810
01:32:19,040 --> 01:32:22,920
Speaker 2: For Bronny, I think it's Lebron for Bronni. I think

1811
01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:26,080
Speaker 2: he wants the whole. I want I want uh, I

1812
01:32:26,120 --> 01:32:28,160
Speaker 2: want to play with my son when he started saying

1813
01:32:28,160 --> 01:32:30,800
Speaker 2: that Lebron could play right now because we need his

1814
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:34,439
Speaker 2: defense for the Lakers. That just turned everybody off. It's

1815
01:32:34,520 --> 01:32:37,559
Speaker 2: just it's it's the whole narrative about the whole thing too.

1816
01:32:37,880 --> 01:32:40,680
Speaker 2: It's not like he's even borderline. He played for the

1817
01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:44,639
Speaker 2: worst team in the Pac twelve and put up bad numbers.

1818
01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:47,960
Speaker 2: It just wasn't even close. He's only you know, he's

1819
01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:52,360
Speaker 2: gonna be He's like Giannis's brother, except brother. I gee,

1820
01:32:52,600 --> 01:32:54,679
Speaker 2: maybe he's a little bit better. He's you know, there's

1821
01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:58,439
Speaker 2: the nepotism there and that that's what's going on, and everybody, everybody,

1822
01:32:58,439 --> 01:33:00,800
Speaker 2: everybody knows it. They they can see right through it.

1823
01:33:02,479 --> 01:33:04,120
Speaker 1: If you're Phoenix, what do you do?

1824
01:33:07,439 --> 01:33:10,280
Speaker 2: If you're the Suns, do you take Broddy and hope

1825
01:33:10,360 --> 01:33:12,439
Speaker 2: that he comes with a package deal with Lebron? But

1826
01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:14,880
Speaker 2: everybody says he's never going to leave the Lakers. If

1827
01:33:14,880 --> 01:33:19,360
Speaker 2: you're Phoenix, I'd stay far away from it and not

1828
01:33:19,479 --> 01:33:21,880
Speaker 2: even bother because unless you know that you can get

1829
01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:25,479
Speaker 2: Lebron by taking Brodny, then you do it.

1830
01:33:25,520 --> 01:33:25,720
Speaker 5: Now.

1831
01:33:25,920 --> 01:33:28,400
Speaker 2: If you're telling me, they know one hundred percent certain

1832
01:33:28,920 --> 01:33:32,000
Speaker 2: that they can get Lebron if they take Bronny, then

1833
01:33:32,040 --> 01:33:35,280
Speaker 2: I say take it. I mean you're nowhere for the worst.

1834
01:33:35,400 --> 01:33:38,519
Speaker 2: You've got to do something to turn your team around.

1835
01:33:39,040 --> 01:33:42,600
Speaker 2: You're in desperate situation right now. I would do it

1836
01:33:42,640 --> 01:33:43,280
Speaker 2: if I was them.

1837
01:33:43,280 --> 01:33:47,479
Speaker 1: To be honest, do you think it's a situation where

1838
01:33:47,760 --> 01:33:52,000
Speaker 1: you take him thinking you might be able to convince Lebron.

1839
01:33:51,840 --> 01:33:55,880
Speaker 2: That's my reason you're taking him if you're not one

1840
01:33:56,360 --> 01:33:57,280
Speaker 2: that Lebron.

1841
01:33:57,000 --> 01:33:59,040
Speaker 1: Knows, So I'm not a situation where I think we

1842
01:33:59,200 --> 01:34:00,920
Speaker 1: might be able to It's.

1843
01:34:03,120 --> 01:34:06,080
Speaker 2: There's no, I'm not no, he's you're not using that

1844
01:34:06,200 --> 01:34:09,680
Speaker 2: second pay risk now, there's not bait in jaws or

1845
01:34:09,720 --> 01:34:12,200
Speaker 2: something like that. You have to know that you're taking

1846
01:34:12,320 --> 01:34:16,160
Speaker 2: Ronnie and because you took Bronni, Lebron gets to come

1847
01:34:16,160 --> 01:34:20,080
Speaker 2: along with this is not maybe or fifty percent, because

1848
01:34:20,160 --> 01:34:21,920
Speaker 2: I'll just have to cut him if you're not gonna

1849
01:34:21,920 --> 01:34:23,559
Speaker 2: come along and you don't want that.

1850
01:34:25,560 --> 01:34:28,439
Speaker 1: What do you make of the possibility that Rich Paul

1851
01:34:28,479 --> 01:34:31,760
Speaker 1: and Lebron James are behind closed doors trying to manufacture

1852
01:34:31,800 --> 01:34:33,640
Speaker 1: this so they can get to Phoenix because it's a

1853
01:34:33,680 --> 01:34:36,559
Speaker 1: better chance for Lebron to win another championship.

1854
01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:39,040
Speaker 2: Instead of going and instead of staying for the Lakers.

1855
01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:41,960
Speaker 1: Why he's staying with the Lakers. He's gonna stay with Lakers.

1856
01:34:41,960 --> 01:34:43,760
Speaker 1: And I've said that that he's gonna end his career

1857
01:34:43,760 --> 01:34:44,640
Speaker 1: as the Lakers.

1858
01:34:44,520 --> 01:34:45,760
Speaker 2: Right, I think he's gonna stay there.

1859
01:34:47,080 --> 01:34:49,599
Speaker 1: Some talk that this is all being orchestrated to get

1860
01:34:49,640 --> 01:34:50,280
Speaker 1: him to Phoenix.

1861
01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:53,360
Speaker 2: No, I I can see why there's been talk about that.

1862
01:34:53,720 --> 01:34:55,120
Speaker 2: I don't think he has a better chance of winning

1863
01:34:55,120 --> 01:34:58,520
Speaker 2: at a championship in Phoenix than he does in Los Angeles.

1864
01:34:58,800 --> 01:35:00,519
Speaker 2: I just know he wants to play with his son

1865
01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:03,120
Speaker 2: in the worst way, and this is the way he's

1866
01:35:03,160 --> 01:35:05,800
Speaker 2: going about it. The Lakers could find room for him.

1867
01:35:05,800 --> 01:35:07,800
Speaker 2: He could be the last guy on the bench. They

1868
01:35:07,800 --> 01:35:10,160
Speaker 2: don't have to draft him. They could take him as

1869
01:35:10,200 --> 01:35:12,640
Speaker 2: a free agent or or something like that.

1870
01:35:12,680 --> 01:35:15,920
Speaker 1: But pick right right, all right? So I know you

1871
01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:18,360
Speaker 1: made this argument one time when we chated a few

1872
01:35:18,360 --> 01:35:20,639
Speaker 1: months ago. So if the picks in the second round

1873
01:35:20,680 --> 01:35:23,040
Speaker 1: are usually throwaways and don't end up doing anything anyway,

1874
01:35:23,080 --> 01:35:25,320
Speaker 1: then what's risk? If you're Phoenix and throwing one.

1875
01:35:25,160 --> 01:35:26,439
Speaker 2: Away, there's no risk.

1876
01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:29,519
Speaker 1: There's no risk once so you have a sixty chance

1877
01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:30,880
Speaker 1: to get Lebron James.

1878
01:35:30,960 --> 01:35:33,679
Speaker 2: There's no risk whatsoever. Hell, there's people that throw around

1879
01:35:33,720 --> 01:35:36,200
Speaker 2: first to throw away first round picks. There's people that

1880
01:35:36,280 --> 01:35:39,439
Speaker 2: take guys that are playing overseas that they have zero

1881
01:35:39,520 --> 01:35:42,960
Speaker 2: percent chance of ever coming to the NBA, that they

1882
01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:44,880
Speaker 2: just don't even want to pay a first round pick

1883
01:35:45,160 --> 01:35:48,000
Speaker 2: and say that we're just not gonna go ahead and

1884
01:35:48,120 --> 01:35:51,360
Speaker 2: you know, deal with something like that. So yeah, no,

1885
01:35:51,400 --> 01:35:54,880
Speaker 2: I totally agree with that. There's there's no you know,

1886
01:35:55,439 --> 01:35:57,800
Speaker 2: reason you shouldn't go ahead and reach out and use

1887
01:35:57,840 --> 01:35:59,920
Speaker 2: him in the second round. There, I could see that,

1888
01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:03,040
Speaker 2: but that's where you're supposed to take the projects anyway.

1889
01:36:03,720 --> 01:36:05,720
Speaker 1: So we were gonna talk about Brownie a little bit

1890
01:36:05,800 --> 01:36:08,000
Speaker 1: later this hour, but we're gonna come back. We'll talk

1891
01:36:08,040 --> 01:36:10,640
Speaker 1: about the NBA Finals matchup a little bit more, and

1892
01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:13,240
Speaker 1: then I want to talk about your Dolphins, Yes, paying

1893
01:36:13,320 --> 01:36:17,000
Speaker 1: Jayalen Wattle, less about what that means for Wattle, and

1894
01:36:17,040 --> 01:36:21,320
Speaker 1: more about what that means for Tyreek Hill once that

1895
01:36:21,400 --> 01:36:24,679
Speaker 1: deal fully blooms for him. And I guess twenty twenty

1896
01:36:24,720 --> 01:36:28,120
Speaker 1: five into the twenty sixth season is this is set

1897
01:36:28,200 --> 01:36:30,519
Speaker 1: up to be kind of moving on from Tyreek. So

1898
01:36:30,520 --> 01:36:33,240
Speaker 1: we got all of that still to come. But well,

1899
01:36:33,320 --> 01:36:36,479
Speaker 1: we will start with Celtics MAVs on the flip side.

1900
01:36:36,560 --> 01:36:38,519
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1901
01:36:38,520 --> 01:36:42,479
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1907
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Speaker 2: By the way, I just saw it, don't get find

1908
01:37:07,720 --> 01:37:10,800
Speaker 2: I just saw the I saw the MVP odds for

1909
01:37:10,880 --> 01:37:16,920
Speaker 2: the finals. Yeah, they had Tatum is the favorite. It

1910
01:37:17,160 --> 01:37:22,160
Speaker 2: minus won twenty so that's pretty much even money. Luca

1911
01:37:22,240 --> 01:37:25,160
Speaker 2: the second favorite of plus two hundred, so you bet

1912
01:37:25,160 --> 01:37:27,600
Speaker 2: one hundred, you win two hundred, so that's that's a

1913
01:37:27,600 --> 01:37:33,880
Speaker 2: pretty good one. Jalen Brown plus five fifty, And you

1914
01:37:33,920 --> 01:37:40,880
Speaker 2: want to take a guess on the Kyrie odds.

1915
01:37:39,240 --> 01:37:41,680
Speaker 1: Well, may you're going saying, I'm trying to figure out

1916
01:37:41,680 --> 01:37:43,000
Speaker 1: if you're going in order, if you're.

1917
01:37:42,960 --> 01:37:46,200
Speaker 2: I have it's plus plus or higher plus plus thousand

1918
01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:49,679
Speaker 2: or something plus two thy twenty to one. I would

1919
01:37:49,680 --> 01:37:53,120
Speaker 2: take a little chance on twenty to one that Kyrie.

1920
01:37:53,240 --> 01:37:54,960
Speaker 2: I mean, if Dallas wins, it's going to be him

1921
01:37:55,040 --> 01:37:58,880
Speaker 2: or Luca. Why not take a chance at twenty to

1922
01:37:58,960 --> 01:38:01,320
Speaker 2: one and put some check goes on him to win

1923
01:38:01,360 --> 01:38:01,840
Speaker 2: the MVP.

1924
01:38:02,920 --> 01:38:06,280
Speaker 1: Okay, so interestingly you went there because I actually was

1925
01:38:06,320 --> 01:38:08,719
Speaker 1: gonna ask this question. Those four guys, as a matter

1926
01:38:08,720 --> 01:38:13,839
Speaker 1: of fact, rank them one to four in terms of

1927
01:38:15,360 --> 01:38:18,400
Speaker 1: who you would want on your team if you could

1928
01:38:18,439 --> 01:38:19,080
Speaker 1: only have one.

1929
01:38:20,400 --> 01:38:22,800
Speaker 2: Well, age is a factor here, so I got to

1930
01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:23,599
Speaker 2: take Kyrie out.

1931
01:38:24,360 --> 01:38:26,400
Speaker 1: Everything is factored in here. Who do you think is

1932
01:38:26,439 --> 01:38:29,840
Speaker 1: the most valuable going into So you're talking about what's

1933
01:38:29,880 --> 01:38:32,160
Speaker 1: going to happen in the finals, and I think Tatum

1934
01:38:32,240 --> 01:38:34,840
Speaker 1: is probably the leader in the clubhouse because the expectations

1935
01:38:34,840 --> 01:38:36,640
Speaker 1: the Celtics are going to wait and the MVP is

1936
01:38:36,640 --> 01:38:37,639
Speaker 1: going to come from Boston.

1937
01:38:37,760 --> 01:38:39,760
Speaker 2: Tatum is the most valuable. But I think I would

1938
01:38:39,840 --> 01:38:42,200
Speaker 2: rather have Luca. To be honest with you, I just

1939
01:38:42,280 --> 01:38:45,639
Speaker 2: love Luca. I'm a big Luca time fan. I love

1940
01:38:45,680 --> 01:38:48,920
Speaker 2: the way he shoots. I just love everything about his game.

1941
01:38:49,439 --> 01:38:55,280
Speaker 2: I like his competitiveness. Taking him or Tatum, I'm with you.

1942
01:38:55,280 --> 01:38:57,280
Speaker 1: See I'm with you, by the way, I am totally

1943
01:38:57,439 --> 01:38:59,400
Speaker 1: I don't think you could lose. I think lucas number one.

1944
01:38:59,720 --> 01:39:02,439
Speaker 2: Don't think you could lose taking one or the other.

1945
01:39:03,160 --> 01:39:06,000
Speaker 2: And I could certainly see people making the case for Tatum.

1946
01:39:06,479 --> 01:39:08,080
Speaker 2: I think I don't know how many more years he's

1947
01:39:08,160 --> 01:39:10,360
Speaker 2: younger than Luca. To be honest with you, are they

1948
01:39:10,880 --> 01:39:12,800
Speaker 2: close to the same age. I don't think so.

1949
01:39:13,040 --> 01:39:15,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, they are very close to the Savage.

1950
01:39:14,600 --> 01:39:15,600
Speaker 2: But I won't so.

1951
01:39:15,680 --> 01:39:18,000
Speaker 1: I think it gets more interesting after one because I

1952
01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:20,160
Speaker 1: think Luca is probably going to be most people's answer

1953
01:39:20,200 --> 01:39:22,200
Speaker 1: at this stage. There will be a few Tatum's in there,

1954
01:39:22,240 --> 01:39:24,400
Speaker 1: but at jamb Brown's number two, I think is where

1955
01:39:24,439 --> 01:39:27,360
Speaker 1: it gets interesting. Jalen Brown for me, is number two

1956
01:39:28,040 --> 01:39:29,400
Speaker 1: over Tatum.

1957
01:39:30,640 --> 01:39:34,640
Speaker 2: Yes, wow, that is That is kind of interesting because I.

1958
01:39:34,680 --> 01:39:37,720
Speaker 1: Think Tatum is the better basketball player he is, just

1959
01:39:37,760 --> 01:39:41,080
Speaker 1: looking at it from that perspective. But I feel like

1960
01:39:41,479 --> 01:39:44,040
Speaker 1: Jalen Brown reminds me a lot on the floor of

1961
01:39:44,120 --> 01:39:48,160
Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler in terms of the attitude and the competitive nature.

1962
01:39:48,720 --> 01:39:54,000
Speaker 1: There's something about Jalen Brown where he's the guy that

1963
01:39:54,120 --> 01:39:57,479
Speaker 1: I would want to go to battle with over Tatum.

1964
01:39:57,880 --> 01:40:01,439
Speaker 1: And that's not against Tatum's skill. I just there's there's

1965
01:40:01,479 --> 01:40:04,080
Speaker 1: an edge to Jaylen Brown that I feel is absent

1966
01:40:04,120 --> 01:40:06,599
Speaker 1: from Jason Tatum. That's why I would I would answer Tatum,

1967
01:40:06,640 --> 01:40:08,200
Speaker 1: but you know, we're sorry, I would answer Brown.

1968
01:40:08,560 --> 01:40:12,760
Speaker 2: There's one big thing about Brown is everybody knows his deficiency.

1969
01:40:12,840 --> 01:40:17,759
Speaker 2: Now the opposed the oppositive team going to your left.

1970
01:40:17,880 --> 01:40:18,479
Speaker 2: You knew it.

1971
01:40:18,960 --> 01:40:20,240
Speaker 1: I knew it. Of course I knew it.

1972
01:40:20,360 --> 01:40:23,200
Speaker 2: The guy has no left hand, might as well just

1973
01:40:23,200 --> 01:40:26,240
Speaker 2: call him righty, and he's tried to work on it.

1974
01:40:26,320 --> 01:40:29,679
Speaker 2: He's no Steph Curry. It is a problem for him,

1975
01:40:30,120 --> 01:40:33,000
Speaker 2: and for that reason alone might be the reason why

1976
01:40:33,200 --> 01:40:35,760
Speaker 2: you might not want to take him over Tatum.

1977
01:40:35,960 --> 01:40:37,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I mean, like I said, from my bat

1978
01:40:37,840 --> 01:40:41,439
Speaker 1: from just a peer, back from a competitor standpoint right,

1979
01:40:42,040 --> 01:40:44,320
Speaker 1: I think I like Jaylen Brown a little bit more

1980
01:40:44,360 --> 01:40:47,200
Speaker 1: than I like Tatum. Okay, no, on the floor, Jimmy

1981
01:40:47,240 --> 01:40:50,439
Speaker 1: Tatum all day long, no question, No.

1982
01:40:50,560 --> 01:40:54,160
Speaker 2: I yeah, I agree with that. I look, I love

1983
01:40:54,200 --> 01:40:58,160
Speaker 2: Tatum too. Nothing against him especially he's the guy. He's

1984
01:40:58,200 --> 01:41:01,000
Speaker 2: the face of the Boston Celtics. I know some people

1985
01:41:01,000 --> 01:41:03,479
Speaker 2: say they're like one A and one B, but it

1986
01:41:03,560 --> 01:41:08,160
Speaker 2: really is Tatum. It's really him, and of course Brown

1987
01:41:08,400 --> 01:41:10,559
Speaker 2: as a very close second. There's no doubt about that.

1988
01:41:11,840 --> 01:41:16,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, again, these are it's splitting areas because I

1989
01:41:16,720 --> 01:41:18,840
Speaker 1: like all these guys and I'll take them all. But

1990
01:41:19,920 --> 01:41:22,280
Speaker 1: if I had to rank them just in terms of

1991
01:41:22,280 --> 01:41:25,600
Speaker 1: who I would want on my team, I would go

1992
01:41:25,680 --> 01:41:28,960
Speaker 1: luc at one. I think I now, just at least

1993
01:41:28,960 --> 01:41:32,559
Speaker 1: for the version of him that I have seen over

1994
01:41:32,560 --> 01:41:34,800
Speaker 1: the last couple of months, I would take Jalen Brown too.

1995
01:41:35,280 --> 01:41:37,360
Speaker 1: Then I think you have to take Tatum three only

1996
01:41:37,400 --> 01:41:40,200
Speaker 1: because of the age factor, but I playing.

1997
01:41:39,920 --> 01:41:42,800
Speaker 2: So much longer, right, No, totally agree with that. And

1998
01:41:42,880 --> 01:41:45,960
Speaker 2: then of course you got Kyrie at number four, though

1999
01:41:46,000 --> 01:41:47,600
Speaker 2: I like I said, I think I would want to

2000
01:41:47,640 --> 01:41:50,439
Speaker 2: put somebody on him be in the MVP at twenty

2001
01:41:50,520 --> 01:41:50,880
Speaker 2: to one.

2002
01:41:51,280 --> 01:41:52,760
Speaker 1: Can you mage that number two?

2003
01:41:53,000 --> 01:41:57,519
Speaker 2: One thousand dollars on that get back twenty g that's

2004
01:41:57,560 --> 01:42:00,759
Speaker 2: not too shabby. And like I said, only two people

2005
01:42:00,760 --> 01:42:03,400
Speaker 2: that could win it from Dallas, him and Lucas, So

2006
01:42:04,800 --> 01:42:06,160
Speaker 2: I think it's like a fifty fifty.

2007
01:42:06,360 --> 01:42:08,640
Speaker 1: I mean I like that too because at the end

2008
01:42:08,680 --> 01:42:10,840
Speaker 1: of the game, I mean, Kyrie can make the shot

2009
01:42:10,880 --> 01:42:13,960
Speaker 1: that buries you too. The VP can come down to

2010
01:42:14,000 --> 01:42:15,600
Speaker 1: who makes the game winnering.

2011
01:42:15,320 --> 01:42:17,639
Speaker 2: Game exactly exactly, and that can.

2012
01:42:17,560 --> 01:42:20,200
Speaker 1: Be Kyrie because he did it for the CAFs.

2013
01:42:19,920 --> 01:42:22,519
Speaker 2: And sometimes you're just going when you're voting on who

2014
01:42:22,520 --> 01:42:25,800
Speaker 2: the MVP is, you're voting based strictly on points, and

2015
01:42:25,880 --> 01:42:29,439
Speaker 2: Kyrie adds points to his game by shooting the free throws.

2016
01:42:29,640 --> 01:42:32,080
Speaker 2: He shoots a lot of them. Next thing you know,

2017
01:42:32,120 --> 01:42:34,040
Speaker 2: he's going from twenty three to thirty three at the

2018
01:42:34,120 --> 01:42:37,360
Speaker 2: end of the game because they keep following him. Not

2019
01:42:37,479 --> 01:42:40,880
Speaker 2: that Luca doesn't shoot file shots, but I think Kyrie

2020
01:42:40,920 --> 01:42:42,880
Speaker 2: runs up his stats a little bit. Also that that's

2021
01:42:42,920 --> 01:42:45,360
Speaker 2: why it's a good bet. I was shocked when they

2022
01:42:45,360 --> 01:42:48,200
Speaker 2: put up plus two thousand. I'm like, twenty to one.

2023
01:42:48,280 --> 01:42:50,760
Speaker 2: Is that possible? Give me some of that, man, I

2024
01:42:50,800 --> 01:42:52,719
Speaker 2: may have to go to Vegas to get that. Yeah,

2025
01:42:52,960 --> 01:42:53,280
Speaker 2: Will I.

2026
01:42:53,280 --> 01:42:55,880
Speaker 1: Will say, I think there's there's something to that because

2027
01:42:55,920 --> 01:42:59,320
Speaker 1: the MAVs are the worst shooting, worst free throw shooting

2028
01:42:59,360 --> 01:43:03,320
Speaker 1: team in the season. Oh, they've been absolutely terrible, and

2029
01:43:03,400 --> 01:43:05,680
Speaker 1: in critical spots in those in the last handful of

2030
01:43:05,720 --> 01:43:08,840
Speaker 1: minutes in both especially in the Western Conference finals, Boy,

2031
01:43:08,840 --> 01:43:11,120
Speaker 1: they were a calamity. Wait and happened. Kyrie miss big ones,

2032
01:43:11,200 --> 01:43:13,920
Speaker 1: Luca miss big ones. That could be the difference because

2033
01:43:13,960 --> 01:43:16,680
Speaker 1: Boston doesn't miss a lot, and they tend to go

2034
01:43:16,720 --> 01:43:18,240
Speaker 1: to the free throw line a lot as well, and

2035
01:43:18,240 --> 01:43:21,120
Speaker 1: play pretty physically. If it's me and I'm Boston and

2036
01:43:21,160 --> 01:43:24,240
Speaker 1: I'm Joe Miszula, I'm saying, get physical with those guys.

2037
01:43:24,840 --> 01:43:27,680
Speaker 1: Dare them to win it on the stripe because they

2038
01:43:27,680 --> 01:43:29,519
Speaker 1: have not proven an ability to do that.

2039
01:43:29,600 --> 01:43:31,400
Speaker 2: No, I agree. By the way, what we talked about

2040
01:43:31,840 --> 01:43:34,920
Speaker 2: who you're rooting for? If you're a neutral fan, one

2041
01:43:35,000 --> 01:43:36,800
Speaker 2: neutral fan, who are you rooting for?

2042
01:43:37,400 --> 01:43:37,639
Speaker 1: Uh?

2043
01:43:37,720 --> 01:43:40,800
Speaker 2: If you're Dak Prescott? Are you rooting for the Stars

2044
01:43:41,280 --> 01:43:44,280
Speaker 2: and the Mavericks because they're the local teams? Are you

2045
01:43:44,400 --> 01:43:46,720
Speaker 2: rooting against them? So people they'll say, there you go.

2046
01:43:46,840 --> 01:43:49,680
Speaker 2: Everybody's a wonder, but you you big loser. So who

2047
01:43:49,960 --> 01:43:54,800
Speaker 2: who you're rooting for? Privately? If you're if you're Dak Prescott.

2048
01:43:54,680 --> 01:43:57,880
Speaker 1: That was quite a spiteful question. I like it, though.

2049
01:43:57,960 --> 01:44:00,280
Speaker 1: Let's bring in Steve de Seger and then we could

2050
01:44:00,280 --> 01:44:01,800
Speaker 1: talk about that on the other side. That was a

2051
01:44:01,920 --> 01:44:04,280
Speaker 1: very horny span your kind of question. We'll have to

2052
01:44:04,360 --> 01:44:06,000
Speaker 1: We'll have to sift on that one for a bill.

2053
01:44:06,080 --> 01:44:07,840
Speaker 1: Let's go to Disaga one more time, though, and find

2054
01:44:07,840 --> 01:44:09,160
Speaker 1: out what's happened in the world of sports.

2055
01:44:09,200 --> 01:44:11,599
Speaker 4: Steve I would add on the free throw shooting. PJ.

2056
01:44:11,880 --> 01:44:14,240
Speaker 4: Washington has had an awful year at the line as

2057
01:44:14,280 --> 01:44:17,200
Speaker 4: well for Dallas, and the Boston Celtics have the best

2058
01:44:17,240 --> 01:44:21,120
Speaker 4: differential this postseason in free throw scoring. They outscore their

2059
01:44:21,160 --> 01:44:24,760
Speaker 4: opponents just on free throws by six points a game.

2060
01:44:25,040 --> 01:44:26,040
Speaker 4: In this postseason.

2061
01:44:26,120 --> 01:44:28,160
Speaker 2: They go to the They drive a lot, though, too.

2062
01:44:28,120 --> 01:44:30,679
Speaker 4: So, but they've also got outside shooters, so it's not

2063
01:44:30,840 --> 01:44:31,600
Speaker 4: just that, right, the.

2064
01:44:32,000 --> 01:44:34,120
Speaker 1: Best three points shooting shooting team in.

2065
01:44:34,120 --> 01:44:36,639
Speaker 4: The league, almost half their shots are three point attempts.

2066
01:44:36,680 --> 01:44:39,800
Speaker 4: It's ridiculous. In fact, it's even more a greater percentage

2067
01:44:40,320 --> 01:44:43,719
Speaker 4: in the postseason that was the regular season. NBA Finals

2068
01:44:43,760 --> 01:44:46,960
Speaker 4: don't start till Thursday, guys. We've got everything final in

2069
01:44:47,040 --> 01:44:49,720
Speaker 4: Major League Baseball because that late game at Wrigley is

2070
01:44:49,840 --> 01:44:52,000
Speaker 4: done long rain delay. At the start, the Cubs have

2071
01:44:52,040 --> 01:44:55,120
Speaker 4: beaten Cincinnati seven to five because there was a two

2072
01:44:55,200 --> 01:44:57,799
Speaker 4: run homer in the bottom of the eighth from Dansby

2073
01:44:57,880 --> 01:45:01,439
Speaker 4: Swanson Tonight Today his his wife scored two goals for

2074
01:45:01,520 --> 01:45:05,760
Speaker 4: Team USA. Mallory Swanson, in her native Colorado, helped the

2075
01:45:05,880 --> 01:45:08,800
Speaker 4: US beat South Korea in an exhibition four to nothing.

2076
01:45:08,880 --> 01:45:11,439
Speaker 4: Those two teams will play each other again on Tuesday

2077
01:45:11,479 --> 01:45:14,360
Speaker 4: in Minnesota. The US has never lost to South Korea,

2078
01:45:14,439 --> 01:45:17,280
Speaker 4: twelve and zero all time, with four ties two goals

2079
01:45:17,320 --> 01:45:20,160
Speaker 4: today for Tierna Davidson as well. The US outshot him

2080
01:45:20,200 --> 01:45:22,360
Speaker 4: fifteen to four. This was the debut of the new

2081
01:45:22,360 --> 01:45:26,000
Speaker 4: women's coach, Emma Hayes, former Chelsea coach in England. The

2082
01:45:26,080 --> 01:45:29,320
Speaker 4: US is playing four exhibitions before the Olympics start this

2083
01:45:29,360 --> 01:45:32,160
Speaker 4: summer in Paris. We'll get to late night tennis in

2084
01:45:32,240 --> 01:45:35,000
Speaker 4: Paris in a moment. Real Madrid won the Champions League

2085
01:45:35,040 --> 01:45:37,679
Speaker 4: final in London today two nothing over Dortmun with two

2086
01:45:37,680 --> 01:45:40,120
Speaker 4: goals in the last twenty minutes. As for the French

2087
01:45:40,160 --> 01:45:43,799
Speaker 4: Open going on at Rollan Garos in Paris, the Novak

2088
01:45:43,880 --> 01:45:48,920
Speaker 4: Djokovic match went till about three am, geez. The third

2089
01:45:49,040 --> 01:45:53,000
Speaker 4: rounder ended a five setter, with Djokovic winning six love

2090
01:45:53,120 --> 01:45:58,000
Speaker 4: in the fifth against the unknown Lorenzo Mussetti, who's younger

2091
01:45:58,040 --> 01:46:00,799
Speaker 4: so at least took it to five sets, but not prevail.

2092
01:46:01,439 --> 01:46:03,559
Speaker 4: Coco go Off of the US plays a fourth round

2093
01:46:03,600 --> 01:46:07,759
Speaker 4: match tomorrow. NCAA baseball tournament started yesterday. Tennessee is number

2094
01:46:07,760 --> 01:46:10,720
Speaker 4: one and one again hosting a regional this weekend. In

2095
01:46:10,760 --> 01:46:14,440
Speaker 4: Aaron Torra's absence, got to mention that Connecticut has beaten Oklahoma.

2096
01:46:14,520 --> 01:46:17,240
Speaker 4: I saw that four to one. Texas. A and M

2097
01:46:17,280 --> 01:46:20,920
Speaker 4: in eleven innings defeated Texas four to two. Also tonight,

2098
01:46:21,240 --> 01:46:24,559
Speaker 4: Oregon wins at top seed in its region. You see

2099
01:46:24,600 --> 01:46:26,920
Speaker 4: Santa Barbara two to one. So the Oregon Ducks are

2100
01:46:26,960 --> 01:46:29,720
Speaker 4: going to be in that regional final, maybe in a

2101
01:46:29,760 --> 01:46:32,920
Speaker 4: rematch with Santa Barbara, which is never hosted a regional before.

2102
01:46:33,240 --> 01:46:36,920
Speaker 4: Arizona got to host a regional and lost at home

2103
01:46:36,960 --> 01:46:41,120
Speaker 4: to Dallas Baptist eliminated seven to nothing. Today, I'm called

2104
01:46:41,160 --> 01:46:44,360
Speaker 4: for Wildcats lost. We're just dealing with scores. Just deal

2105
01:46:44,400 --> 01:46:46,680
Speaker 4: with the facts. At the news Day Football School, the

2106
01:46:46,720 --> 01:46:50,320
Speaker 4: Wildcats lost at home to Grand Canyon yesterday. Grand Canyon

2107
01:46:50,360 --> 01:46:54,920
Speaker 4: beaten tonight five to two by West. It's double elimination,

2108
01:46:55,080 --> 01:46:57,960
Speaker 4: a couple elimination games at the College Softball World Series

2109
01:46:57,960 --> 01:47:01,360
Speaker 4: tomorrow as number one Texas out Florida ten to nothing.

2110
01:47:01,400 --> 01:47:05,720
Speaker 4: Tonight at number two Oklahoma Edge, UCLA won nothing. Oklahoma

2111
01:47:05,840 --> 01:47:08,280
Speaker 4: being well, this is a busy time of the year

2112
01:47:08,280 --> 01:47:10,200
Speaker 4: for them. That's why we won't be hearing from Chris

2113
01:47:10,240 --> 01:47:12,840
Speaker 4: Plank tomorrow night. We will be hearing from the two

2114
01:47:12,880 --> 01:47:16,520
Speaker 4: of you in this time slot. As for the NHL,

2115
01:47:16,840 --> 01:47:20,200
Speaker 4: the Florida Panthers have advanced. We'll get the details in

2116
01:47:20,240 --> 01:47:22,680
Speaker 4: a moment, but I haven't mentioned that UFC was this

2117
01:47:22,800 --> 01:47:26,080
Speaker 4: evening in Newark, New Jersey. UFC three to zero two

2118
01:47:26,280 --> 01:47:30,680
Speaker 4: is done and Islam Mkashev retains his lightweight title with

2119
01:47:30,760 --> 01:47:34,600
Speaker 4: a fifth round submission of Dustin Poirier. Earlier victories for

2120
01:47:34,680 --> 01:47:38,240
Speaker 4: Sean Strickland and for Kevin Holland now to the NHL.

2121
01:47:38,320 --> 01:47:41,080
Speaker 4: Florida advances, winning Game six of the East Final over

2122
01:47:41,120 --> 01:47:43,760
Speaker 4: the top seed New York Rangers two to one. The

2123
01:47:43,880 --> 01:47:47,120
Speaker 4: Ranger season ends by losing three straight in this series.

2124
01:47:47,680 --> 01:47:50,759
Speaker 4: For the series, the Rangers only scored twelve goals total

2125
01:47:50,840 --> 01:47:53,679
Speaker 4: in the six games. Panthers win four games to two.

2126
01:47:54,080 --> 01:47:56,559
Speaker 4: Panthers get back to the Stanley Cup Final, where they

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Speaker 4: were beaten by Vegas for the title last year.

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01:48:00,160 --> 01:48:02,680
Speaker 2: Is just starting goalie two in the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: The last team to lose the Cup Final in back

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01:48:05,640 --> 01:48:08,680
Speaker 4: to back seasons. It hasn't happened since the nineteen seventies.

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01:48:08,920 --> 01:48:12,400
Speaker 4: Boston Ap points out that with the Rangers out. This

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01:48:12,439 --> 01:48:14,839
Speaker 4: will be nine straight years that one of the league's

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01:48:14,840 --> 01:48:18,160
Speaker 4: original six teams will not be winning the Cup, the

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Speaker 4: longest that we've had such a stretch in league history.

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Speaker 4: As for the NBA Finals, no, they don't start till Thursday,

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Speaker 4: but we will get Boston hosting Thursday and Sunday night

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01:48:28,720 --> 01:48:32,240
Speaker 4: of next week June sixth and June ninth, against the MAVs,

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Speaker 4: with games one and two in that series. Programming note,

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Speaker 4: NASCAR is on FS one tomorrow three thirty pm Eastern Time.

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Speaker 4: Because the UFL football regular season ends this weekend, Fox

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Speaker 4: TV has another game on Sunday, Houston at Memphis. Saint

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01:48:47,880 --> 01:48:51,840
Speaker 4: Louis with thirty four thousand in attendance, clinched homefield advantage today,

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01:48:51,880 --> 01:48:54,640
Speaker 4: winning thirteen to twelve over San Antonio, a team that

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Speaker 4: missed a fifty one yard field goal attempt at the end.

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01:48:57,720 --> 01:49:03,160
Speaker 4: Brome on Birmingham again twenty to nineteen over Michigan, which

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01:49:03,160 --> 01:49:05,519
Speaker 4: missed a fifty three yard field goal attempt. On the

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01:49:05,520 --> 01:49:09,559
Speaker 4: final play. Adrian Martinez, the Birmingham quarterback, with a touchdown

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01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:12,799
Speaker 4: pass and on the ground five carries forty one yards.

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Speaker 4: The late baseball game I mentioned the Cubs win. The

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Speaker 4: other two had Yankees and Dodgers each winning, and they're

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Speaker 4: playing each other next weekend. In fact, I saw Fox

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01:49:22,160 --> 01:49:25,920
Speaker 4: TV announcing they've got a triple header next Saturday of

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01:49:26,040 --> 01:49:29,559
Speaker 4: baseball from London. I think it's Philly's Mets, and then

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01:49:29,880 --> 01:49:33,360
Speaker 4: the Belmont Stakes from New York, and then Yankees Dodgers

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01:49:33,400 --> 01:49:35,880
Speaker 4: right after that, those three in a row on Fox.

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01:49:36,200 --> 01:49:38,599
Speaker 4: The Yankees Aaron Judge hit two home runs last night

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01:49:38,600 --> 01:49:41,320
Speaker 4: in San Francisco. He hit another in the first inning tonight,

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01:49:41,680 --> 01:49:44,559
Speaker 4: four hundred and sixty four feet. He has twenty one

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01:49:44,640 --> 01:49:47,800
Speaker 4: homers this year, fourteen for the month of May, which

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Speaker 4: just concluded.

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Speaker 1: Last night.

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Speaker 4: Yankees won at San Francisco seven to three, Dodgers foro

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01:49:52,520 --> 01:49:56,080
Speaker 4: to one over Colorado. A final Yoshinobu Yamamoto, six and two,

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01:49:56,120 --> 01:49:58,799
Speaker 4: got the win. He struck out seven in his six innings.

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Speaker 4: Texas and c battle with wins. Arizona ended a five

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Speaker 4: game losing streak, beating the Mets ten to five in

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01:50:05,200 --> 01:50:08,439
Speaker 4: New York, of course, and Philadelphia down Saint Louis six

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Speaker 4: to one. But Philly starting pitcher Ranger Suarez, who's nine

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Speaker 4: and one with an eerm one point seven to zero.

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Speaker 4: Had to leave early tonight with a bruised hand hit

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01:50:16,600 --> 01:50:17,960
Speaker 4: by a line drive back to you.

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Speaker 1: No good, not something I would be looking to do.

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01:50:21,840 --> 01:50:25,400
Speaker 1: We are live here Tyreck dot Com Studios, so it's

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Speaker 1: going to be the two of us goons, and then

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Speaker 1: I guess the segre tomorrow night as well. That's right?

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01:50:30,560 --> 01:50:31,200
Speaker 1: Is that what we're hearing?

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01:50:31,240 --> 01:50:36,719
Speaker 2: That's Big Sunday Night, the big show looking forward right off.

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Speaker 1: That's not how you operate. I understand that Jaylen Wattle

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Speaker 1: three year, eighty four point seventy five million extension, fourth

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01:50:44,640 --> 01:50:48,280
Speaker 1: highest paid receiver in the entire league. We already know

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01:50:48,320 --> 01:50:51,040
Speaker 1: they've got Tyreek Hill, they got Odell Beckham. They are

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01:50:51,080 --> 01:50:53,360
Speaker 1: committing a lot of money to the wide receiver position,

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01:50:53,520 --> 01:50:56,040
Speaker 1: and we're seeing wide receivers getting paid left and right

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01:50:56,120 --> 01:51:00,679
Speaker 1: in the league. I'm gonna say what this really means.

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01:51:00,720 --> 01:51:03,040
Speaker 1: If you look at the way Tyreek Hill's contract is

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01:51:03,080 --> 01:51:05,679
Speaker 1: set up, they probably let him go, if not after

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01:51:05,720 --> 01:51:08,120
Speaker 1: this coming season, after the next one, because that's when

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01:51:08,160 --> 01:51:10,960
Speaker 1: the biggest part of that contract hits, or at least

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01:51:10,960 --> 01:51:14,000
Speaker 1: that's part of their thinking. Now. The cap is also

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01:51:14,080 --> 01:51:17,040
Speaker 1: going to go up, so this deal is not gonna

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01:51:17,040 --> 01:51:21,080
Speaker 1: look as big in a few years. But actually, you

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01:51:21,080 --> 01:51:24,240
Speaker 1: know what, I don't mind this one because I know

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01:51:24,400 --> 01:51:29,200
Speaker 1: Miami drafted Waddle with the intent of making him wide

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01:51:29,240 --> 01:51:32,479
Speaker 1: receiver one, and so they're paying him like that's what

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01:51:32,560 --> 01:51:35,400
Speaker 1: they still see his ceiling being as Tyreek Hill gets

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01:51:35,400 --> 01:51:37,479
Speaker 1: older and Tyreek Hill kind of every once in a while,

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01:51:37,960 --> 01:51:41,960
Speaker 1: Actually he's gonna retire, So maybe he eventually does step

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01:51:42,000 --> 01:51:42,799
Speaker 1: back or step.

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Speaker 2: He wants more money, he said, now he wants to

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01:51:44,640 --> 01:51:45,680
Speaker 2: look at his contract.

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Speaker 1: Well that's that's probably not gonna work out for him

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01:51:48,840 --> 01:51:50,960
Speaker 1: in Miami. But I will say this, I think that

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01:51:51,280 --> 01:51:55,360
Speaker 1: getting this deal done before Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson

2204
01:51:55,360 --> 01:51:58,320
Speaker 1: are paid might be part of this. Like you pay

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01:51:58,360 --> 01:52:00,320
Speaker 1: him now, you don't have to pay him another twenty

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01:52:00,360 --> 01:52:03,040
Speaker 1: million to match what those guys are gonna right right, Look,

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01:52:03,439 --> 01:52:04,679
Speaker 1: he'll be next guy up.

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01:52:05,040 --> 01:52:07,360
Speaker 2: I didn't know, I said at first, I said, Wow,

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Speaker 2: that's a lot of money. But then you take it

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01:52:09,160 --> 01:52:12,760
Speaker 2: his look, but everything's a lot of money, And yeah,

2211
01:52:12,800 --> 01:52:15,600
Speaker 2: he's gonna be the fourth paid wide receiver. Deserves to

2212
01:52:15,640 --> 01:52:17,559
Speaker 2: be the fourth paid wide receiver. Put up some good

2213
01:52:17,600 --> 01:52:21,360
Speaker 2: money numbers as a rookie, good numbers the last year.

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01:52:21,720 --> 01:52:23,760
Speaker 2: The only problem is he did have an injury kept

2215
01:52:23,800 --> 01:52:26,840
Speaker 2: him out for several games. Hopefully that's not gonna be

2216
01:52:26,880 --> 01:52:30,240
Speaker 2: an overall problem. But he deserves this type of money

2217
01:52:30,240 --> 01:52:32,519
Speaker 2: and he's a He's a big part of that Miami offense.

2218
01:52:32,600 --> 01:52:36,200
Speaker 2: So I thoroughly agree with them to go ahead and

2219
01:52:36,280 --> 01:52:38,920
Speaker 2: sign him to the to the contract. They they have

2220
01:52:38,960 --> 01:52:40,800
Speaker 2: a lot of decisions to make. What's gonna happen with

2221
01:52:40,840 --> 01:52:43,760
Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill? What about Tua after this year?

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Speaker 1: That's the biggest question I was going to ask you

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01:52:45,800 --> 01:52:48,640
Speaker 1: about what do you think like you're paying these wide receivers,

2224
01:52:49,080 --> 01:52:52,000
Speaker 1: are you really gonna hand to that level of money

2225
01:52:52,320 --> 01:52:54,280
Speaker 1: or are you gonna give him the opportunity this year

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01:52:54,280 --> 01:52:56,439
Speaker 1: to either earn it or move on from him.

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01:52:56,479 --> 01:52:58,679
Speaker 2: Two years ago? Was it two years ago that Tua

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01:52:58,760 --> 01:53:01,559
Speaker 2: got hurt? And the other years are building?

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01:53:01,640 --> 01:53:03,880
Speaker 1: Two years ago he played the whole year right.

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01:53:04,040 --> 01:53:06,680
Speaker 2: Two years ago, when he started off the year, he

2231
01:53:06,840 --> 01:53:09,880
Speaker 2: was first in all offensive categories, and then that's what

2232
01:53:10,040 --> 01:53:12,439
Speaker 2: he got hurt and at the concussions, and this season

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01:53:12,479 --> 01:53:15,240
Speaker 2: was pretty much lost. Last year, he put up pretty

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01:53:15,240 --> 01:53:18,920
Speaker 2: good numbers in offensive categories. I think top three or

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01:53:18,960 --> 01:53:23,240
Speaker 2: top four in just about every offensive category out there. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean for a league that thrives on having big

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01:53:26,160 --> 01:53:29,519
Speaker 2: time quarterbacks, and you need a big time quarterback, and

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01:53:29,560 --> 01:53:32,799
Speaker 2: you need a quarterback to you know, it doesn't necessarily

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01:53:32,840 --> 01:53:35,840
Speaker 2: have to be the best quarterback, but a top five

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Speaker 2: to top ten quarterback. He fits the bill. He stayed healthy,

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01:53:40,000 --> 01:53:43,320
Speaker 2: he's worked on himself. He looks different this year, even

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01:53:43,400 --> 01:53:45,720
Speaker 2: I think I already go lost weight. So yeah, I

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01:53:45,760 --> 01:53:47,720
Speaker 2: got to give him. I get to wait till the

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01:53:47,800 --> 01:53:50,080
Speaker 2: end of this year, but yeah, I'm gonna give him

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01:53:50,080 --> 01:53:51,040
Speaker 2: the big time contract.

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Speaker 1: DeVante Smith got back in April. He got a three year,

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01:53:55,200 --> 01:53:58,800
Speaker 1: seventy five million dollar deal from the Eagles. I'm on

2248
01:53:58,920 --> 01:54:02,760
Speaker 1: Ross Saint Brown where year one twenty Nico Collins just

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01:54:02,800 --> 01:54:07,160
Speaker 1: this week seventy two zero point seven to five in Houston.

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01:54:07,720 --> 01:54:09,920
Speaker 1: So I mean, it wasn't gonna be cheap for Wattle

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01:54:09,960 --> 01:54:12,160
Speaker 1: either way. But if you look at his numbers as

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01:54:12,200 --> 01:54:14,320
Speaker 1: we get a break one hundred and four catches, thousand

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01:54:14,320 --> 01:54:17,440
Speaker 1: and fifteen yards and six t ds as a rookie,

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01:54:17,640 --> 01:54:19,840
Speaker 1: right and he had seventy five for thirteen fifty six

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Speaker 1: and eight touchdowns in twenty two. That was his first

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01:54:22,280 --> 01:54:25,040
Speaker 1: year with Tyreek Hill and then seventy two for one

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01:54:25,080 --> 01:54:28,000
Speaker 1: thy fourteen and four touchdowns in fourteen games. Last year

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01:54:28,040 --> 01:54:30,320
Speaker 1: he dealt with a little bit of an injury as well.

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01:54:30,520 --> 01:54:32,080
Speaker 1: So he's a guy that in his first three years

2260
01:54:32,080 --> 01:54:35,080
Speaker 1: in the league has thousand yard seasons. Every single one.

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01:54:35,120 --> 01:54:37,560
Speaker 2: Could easily have over a hundred yards catching every year

2262
01:54:37,560 --> 01:54:39,440
Speaker 2: if Tyreek Hill wasn't on that team.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I definitely, I mean, certainly that's true.

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01:54:41,920 --> 01:54:43,360
Speaker 2: But then you have to go up against even on

2265
01:54:43,400 --> 01:54:45,640
Speaker 2: a team with Tyreek Hill, he's getting a ton of yards,

2266
01:54:45,640 --> 01:54:48,240
Speaker 2: but then you have to go ahead and have the

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01:54:48,360 --> 01:54:51,160
Speaker 2: number one defender, the number one corner is then going

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01:54:51,200 --> 01:54:54,200
Speaker 2: to guard you instead of guarding Tyreek Hill.

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01:54:54,360 --> 01:54:56,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, that does help. It's the same thing as being

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01:54:56,280 --> 01:54:59,360
Speaker 1: Juju Smith Schuster and having Antonio Brown and pitch me like,

2271
01:54:59,400 --> 01:55:01,480
Speaker 1: if you've got number one guy, it's definitely gonna give

2272
01:55:01,520 --> 01:55:04,320
Speaker 1: you the opportunity when we come back. What in the

2273
01:55:04,360 --> 01:55:09,400
Speaker 1: world happened with Kylie Kelsey and a fan all over

2274
01:55:09,440 --> 01:55:13,760
Speaker 1: their car. Plus we can predict one game even though

2275
01:55:13,760 --> 01:55:15,640
Speaker 1: it's not gonna be played for four or five days,

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01:55:15,760 --> 01:55:17,680
Speaker 1: cause well, you know what I'd say, we wouldn't talk

2277
01:55:17,720 --> 01:55:19,640
Speaker 1: about it. We're gonna be on again tomorrow night, but

2278
01:55:19,840 --> 01:55:22,720
Speaker 1: we'll be talking about these things again, so we'll come back.

2279
01:55:22,760 --> 01:55:25,240
Speaker 1: We'll Paul Shop the show, Don't Go Anywhere along with

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01:55:25,360 --> 01:55:27,600
Speaker 1: Arnie Spanier. I'm Jason Martin here on Fox Sports Radio.

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01:55:28,360 --> 01:55:31,960
Speaker 1: Welcome back Fox Sports Saturday. For some of you at Sunday,

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01:55:31,960 --> 01:55:35,280
Speaker 1: including me, I'm in Nashville. We're living to Direck dot

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01:55:35,360 --> 01:55:37,840
Speaker 1: Com Studios. It's Arney Spanier and Jason Martin. We'll do

2284
01:55:37,880 --> 01:55:40,440
Speaker 1: it again tomorrow night, same bat time, same Fox Sports

2285
01:55:40,520 --> 01:55:45,120
Speaker 1: Radio channel love in PM Eastern. We'll do three more

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01:55:45,160 --> 01:55:49,880
Speaker 1: hours then, as Chris Plank is doing softball duty right now.

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01:55:50,080 --> 01:55:52,160
Speaker 2: That's right, Oklahoma Softball.

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01:55:55,280 --> 01:56:00,680
Speaker 1: Well that's a weird place to be, man, they do. So,

2289
01:56:01,400 --> 01:56:05,440
Speaker 1: Kylie Kelsey, what happened here? Arnie? Like, how far have

2290
01:56:05,520 --> 01:56:07,680
Speaker 1: you ever gone to try and get a picture of autographs?

2291
01:56:07,880 --> 01:56:10,000
Speaker 2: I guess there was a lady that wanted to get

2292
01:56:10,040 --> 01:56:14,880
Speaker 2: a selfie with Jason Kelsey.

2293
01:56:15,360 --> 01:56:21,760
Speaker 1: And or maybe with both of them, maybe.

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01:56:21,520 --> 01:56:25,120
Speaker 2: With both of them, and I guess the wife wasn't

2295
01:56:25,160 --> 01:56:27,600
Speaker 2: having any of any of it because they were on

2296
01:56:27,640 --> 01:56:31,000
Speaker 2: a date and you know, they just wanted to be

2297
01:56:31,080 --> 01:56:34,880
Speaker 2: left alone, and she said no, and the person that

2298
01:56:34,960 --> 01:56:38,680
Speaker 2: wanted to take the selfie was absolutely livid. I love

2299
01:56:38,760 --> 01:56:41,360
Speaker 2: what she yelled out, You're never going to be allowed

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01:56:41,400 --> 01:56:45,760
Speaker 2: in this town again. That's just that was just so classic.

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01:56:46,200 --> 01:56:49,400
Speaker 2: I guess she apologized afterwards. You probably was all liquored

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01:56:49,480 --> 01:56:53,760
Speaker 2: up or whatever it was, but uh, I loved it.

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01:56:53,880 --> 01:56:55,960
Speaker 2: I thought it was great that she stood her ground

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01:56:56,000 --> 01:56:58,760
Speaker 2: and saying, no, we're on a date, leave us alone,

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01:56:59,400 --> 01:57:03,080
Speaker 2: and you know there's time for selfies and autographs. This

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01:57:03,320 --> 01:57:05,360
Speaker 2: just isn't the time. We want to be left alone,

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01:57:05,760 --> 01:57:08,600
Speaker 2: and she went off the deep end. I do have

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01:57:08,600 --> 01:57:12,440
Speaker 2: an autograph story when I was when I was just

2309
01:57:12,440 --> 01:57:14,000
Speaker 2: a kid, I was I think it was like in

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01:57:14,120 --> 01:57:18,040
Speaker 2: sixth grade, fifth or sixth grade. I had just moved

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01:57:18,040 --> 01:57:20,800
Speaker 2: to Los Angeles and I like, I go like, oh

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01:57:20,840 --> 01:57:24,720
Speaker 2: my god, there's Kareem a Duel Jabbar and I'm like,

2313
01:57:24,760 --> 01:57:27,480
Speaker 2: mister Jabar, can I please have your autograph? And he's

2314
01:57:27,520 --> 01:57:31,480
Speaker 2: like no, no, he keeps walking. I go, come on, Kareem, please,

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01:57:31,520 --> 01:57:35,960
Speaker 2: can I have your autograph? Please? And he's like, I'm

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01:57:36,000 --> 01:57:40,080
Speaker 2: not Kareem. I go, come on, please not Kareem. He

2317
01:57:40,120 --> 01:57:43,120
Speaker 2: says he's not Kareem. I said, come on, mister, Jabbar,

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01:57:43,560 --> 01:57:47,240
Speaker 2: please let me get your autograph. So the guy signs

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01:57:47,280 --> 01:57:50,440
Speaker 2: it and he keeps walking and I look at the

2320
01:57:50,440 --> 01:57:54,400
Speaker 2: piece of paper and I go, Julius Serving, who the

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01:57:54,480 --> 01:57:58,520
Speaker 2: hell are you? And I did like get out of here.

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01:57:59,080 --> 01:58:01,760
Speaker 2: That's when the he was playing for, I believe the

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01:58:01,800 --> 01:58:05,360
Speaker 2: Aba New Jersey Nets at the time, and I had

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01:58:05,440 --> 01:58:07,360
Speaker 2: run into him and I had no idea who Julius

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01:58:07,360 --> 01:58:10,320
Speaker 2: Irving was. I'm like, oh, allan, Julian's Irving. And I

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01:58:10,400 --> 01:58:13,480
Speaker 2: never kept the autographs. So there you go.

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01:58:16,120 --> 01:58:16,879
Speaker 1: Is that true?

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01:58:17,120 --> 01:58:18,480
Speaker 2: That's one hundred percent through.

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01:58:19,440 --> 01:58:21,080
Speaker 1: That does not sound true. It is.

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Speaker 2: I've that story before on the air.

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01:58:23,040 --> 01:58:25,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was not that you did not know who

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01:58:25,640 --> 01:58:26,440
Speaker 1: Julius Irving was.

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01:58:26,480 --> 01:58:29,040
Speaker 2: That was at the it was only like fifth grade.

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01:58:29,160 --> 01:58:34,040
Speaker 2: It was at the bel Air Hotel on Sunset Boulevard

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01:58:34,120 --> 01:58:36,400
Speaker 2: is where I remember it was, and it was, uh,

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Speaker 2: it was crazy, just I don't know who was there meeting,

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Speaker 2: but it was back then, a long time ago, long

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Speaker 2: time ago.

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Speaker 1: Okay. Julius Serving another one of the many who reached

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Speaker 1: out and said kind things about Bill Walton. This, yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: that list is long. Yeah, yeah, everybody had a nice thing.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Jabbar called him his best his biggest rival

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Speaker 1: and one of his best friends.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's yeah, very sad. We talked about that earlier.

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Speaker 2: Just real sad to see that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you missed any part of the program, by

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Speaker 1: the way, podcast just search us where you get your podcasts,

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Speaker 1: and you can do that for every show here on

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. So Sunday, of course, there's not gonna

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Speaker 1: be a game that we could start the NBA Finals,

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Speaker 1: but no, we're gonna go ahead and wait until Thursday.

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Speaker 1: When do you start? When do you place your bet

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Speaker 1: on the on game one?

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Speaker 2: Probably Wednesday night or Thursday morning. I like to wait

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Speaker 2: till it gets right up the game time, all right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, never know what's gonna happen within the next three

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Speaker 1: or four days. All Right, it's been fun. We'll do

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Speaker 1: it again twenty one hours from right now. Enjoy your Sunday, Arnie.

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Speaker 1: I look forward to getting more stories of you lighting

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Speaker 1: Doctor j tomorrow. It's been fun. We'll do it again, Arnie.

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Speaker 1: Bernie Frado's next year on Fox