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Speaker 1: You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio Hour two. On this Wednesday, Dan and The

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Speaker 1: Dane's Dan Patrick Show will check in with the Heisman

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Speaker 1: Trophy winner Carson Palmer, former number one overall pick. Also

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Speaker 1: Richard Sherman, Niners defensive backstops by and the great Bob Costas.

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Speaker 1: On yesterday's Hall of Fame voting, nobody got in. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk to Bob about Kurt Schilling, Barry Bonds. You know,

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Speaker 1: there's other players there, Roger Clemens. You know, Sammy Sosa

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Speaker 1: had four the best years a power hitter has ever had,

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Speaker 1: maybe the four greatest years, and he had him, I

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Speaker 1: think consecutively. He not even sniffing the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: Andy Pettitt is not sniffing the Hall of Fame. What

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Speaker 1: you have to keep an eye on sometimes is those

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Speaker 1: who are in the twenties as far as the percentage

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Speaker 1: of votes, just you keep an eye on that steady progress.

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Speaker 1: Scott Rowland's going to go into the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: I believe Todd Helton is going to go into the

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Omar Viskel may go into the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame, and then you have a rod next year.

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Speaker 1: On the ballot, and you have Big Poppy on the

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Speaker 1: ballot as well. I think Big Poppy's got a better

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Speaker 1: chance than a Rod. But a Rod's been on this

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Speaker 1: pr kick here since he got out of baseball Shark

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Speaker 1: tanks Sunday Night Baseball dating j Low gone to the inauguration.

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Speaker 1: He says, he's been kind of reconfigured here. He's had

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Speaker 1: a great five years since he retired from the sport. Yes, poet,

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Speaker 1: it's like he and Jeter are in one of those

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Speaker 1: body switching movies. You're struggling with this franchise down there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but the Marlins did make the playoffs though. Yes. The

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Speaker 1: at Dan Patrick dot com, Twitter handle a TP show,

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Speaker 1: I talk about the media is a guilty of wishful reporting.

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Speaker 1: Wishful reporting with Aaron Rodgers. What was he saying on

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Speaker 1: Sunday after the game? Does he want out? Where could

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Speaker 1: he go? Let's speculate on where he could go? And

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Speaker 1: I went, I don't think this has anything to do

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Speaker 1: with him wanting out. He may want a new contract,

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Speaker 1: which I unders Dan, but you don't have to read

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Speaker 1: between the lines with what the rams are saying. About

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Speaker 1: Jared Goff's future. Here is Less Sneeed the Rams GM

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Speaker 1: yesterday with Jared wood Song. Since they've started partner together.

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Speaker 1: You know, Jared has more more wins than any other

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Speaker 1: quarterback except Tom Brady. So there has been successes there

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Speaker 1: and now the vision, the goal is to look at

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Speaker 1: the model see if there's some tweaks to being able

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Speaker 1: to make sure we get back to who we want

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Speaker 1: to be. Okay, and finally, and I'm sorry, so you

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Speaker 1: can't say at this moment that Jared Goff will be

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Speaker 1: on the team in twenty twenty one. What I can

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Speaker 1: say is Jared goffs a RAM in this moment, and

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Speaker 1: I said, it's way to her to speculate the future.

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Speaker 1: That's a beautiful mystery. He's a RAM right now, Yes

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Speaker 1: he is, Yes, technically he is. And he's still under contract.

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Speaker 1: Let's bring in a friend of the show, Carson Palmer,

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Speaker 1: the former number one overall picked by the Bengals, Heisman

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Speaker 1: Trophy winner at USC and he is now College Football

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Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. Carson, how are you today? Well, Dan,

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Speaker 1: thanks for having me on. Where do you want to start?

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Speaker 1: Wherever you want to go? How would you feel if

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Speaker 1: you're Jared Golf. Yeah, I mean it's a tough situation.

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Speaker 1: He's gone in and he started, you know, his career

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Speaker 1: really slowly. Obviously with the end of the Coach Fisher

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Speaker 1: he was hot and they were on fire and Tod

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Speaker 1: Gurley was rolling. But as soon as you saw Gurley

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Speaker 1: he was the centerpiece that offense. He was the engine

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Speaker 1: that made that offense go. Without Gurley and without some

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Speaker 1: doesn't have the ability to carry a team on his shoulders,

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Speaker 1: and it sounds like the Rams to figure that out

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Speaker 1: and maybe looking to go in a different direction. But

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Speaker 1: also you look at these quarterbacks now, Carson, compare how

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Speaker 1: you were coming out of USC and being ready for

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Speaker 1: working out Trevor Lawrence. How ready Trevor Lawrence is compared

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Speaker 1: What's your brothers say about Trevor Lawrence. What's what's the

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Speaker 1: that jumped out to me is just maturity. He just said,

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Speaker 1: And that's interesting. But that's really important because I go

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Speaker 1: back to what urban Meyer said about Dwayne Haskins prior

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Speaker 1: to the draft. He said, maturity concerns here and I

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Speaker 1: he still is a grinder. You're going to practice every

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Speaker 1: to talk more football. Bruce's old school. Bruce will talk

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Speaker 1: amazing to me about Tom Brady is Tom Brady's not

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Speaker 1: and just knowing the way that Bruce rolls. You know,

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Speaker 1: you know, Bruce talk about Brady's coaching ability, and he's

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Speaker 1: And that's why he's in Tampa. What does Brady do

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Speaker 1: better than Patrick Mahomes. It has nothing to do with it.

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Speaker 1: We just said Scottie Miller on last hour, and he

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Speaker 1: the defenship back was looking in the backfield at Brady

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Speaker 1: and he said, number twenty, you better turn and run

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Speaker 1: be in quarters coverage, or please be in man, or

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Speaker 1: Tom Cruise is ready to talk to Dan Patrick. We're

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Speaker 1: a little behind schedule, so you guys only have four minutes.

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Speaker 1: We had booked ten minutes with him. We just stand

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Speaker 1: a procedure. Yeah, and I told you into your ear.

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Speaker 1: They just told me it's only four minutes of Tom Cruise,

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Speaker 1: and you go, I'll take care of it. And then

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Speaker 1: Tom gets on the line and you go, hey Tom,

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Speaker 1: Dan Patrick. And Tom was like, Dan, this is really cool.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to be on. He goes your people told

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Speaker 1: me four minutes. I need like ten or eleven, Dan,

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Speaker 1: whatever you need, don't worry about it. It was really great.

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Speaker 1: The PR person was like, oh no, no. First time

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Speaker 1: I met him, the only time I met him was

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Speaker 1: on the set an Adam Sandler movie and he was

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Speaker 1: still married to Katie Holmes and their daughter was there

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Speaker 1: with them, Surrey, And that was you know, you'll always

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Speaker 1: think when you see somebody on the big screen, you

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Speaker 1: go and they're really big or they're tall or whatever,

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Speaker 1: and Tom's not like you just but the presence that

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Speaker 1: he had had a Yankees hat on, like it was

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Speaker 1: just you walked in and uh but Sandler, who goes

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Speaker 1: he thinks everybody knows everybody. They go, uh, hey Cruise,

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Speaker 1: you know Danny, Hey Danny, Yes, Tom Cruise, And I go, oh, hey, Tom,

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Speaker 1: how are you? I don't know you? I know of you?

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Speaker 1: And then I'm gonna be in a scene with his wife.

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Speaker 1: And uh so I said to Katie, I said, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, hi, I'm I'm Dan. I'm gonna be in

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Speaker 1: the scene with you. And she says, oh great, and

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Speaker 1: then that was it. And then Tom left eventually, and

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Speaker 1: then Katie was there on the day that we shot,

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Speaker 1: and that's when she famously came in with cookies and

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Speaker 1: making sure that I had one since I was going

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Speaker 1: to be in her scene. Yes, i'd be afraid to

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Speaker 1: like look him in the eye, like he'd be like

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Speaker 1: one of those like super famous people, like you're not

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Speaker 1: supposed to look at him or say anything to him.

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Speaker 1: But he wasn't like that. Well, he wasn't on the

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Speaker 1: it wasn't his movie, so he was on Sandler's movie set.

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Speaker 1: Therefore it's different. But I never aught at any moment

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Speaker 1: or you know, he goes stop looking at me, you know,

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Speaker 1: It's just one of those where I was like, hey, Tom,

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Speaker 1: how are you, and then that was it. I tried

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Speaker 1: to be really cool about it, subtle, unlike when I

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Speaker 1: met Anniston and I go, hey, Jen, I'm the sports

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Speaker 1: guy and she goes, oh, yeah, you're the sports Like

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Speaker 1: she didn't even know my name, so she just said, oh, okay,

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Speaker 1: you're the sports guy. Like that was it. Yeah. See.

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Speaker 1: That's one of the things that I love about Adam

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Speaker 1: Sandlers so much is that he and Tom Cruise make

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Speaker 1: completely different types of movies, and they're probably regarded as

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Speaker 1: completely different types or caliber of actors, but at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day, when they walk into a room together,

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Speaker 1: we each make billions of dollars in movies. So I'm good.

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Speaker 1: So hey, yeah, Tommy, you know Danny, Yeah, go ahead.

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Speaker 1: That's because he's like, yeah, dude, I make billions and

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Speaker 1: billions of dollars just like you. Yeah, Sandler is He's

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Speaker 1: really good at doing that. When we went to dinner

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Speaker 1: with him in Toronto and we knew Dan Ackroyd was

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Speaker 1: going to be there, but Ivan Reitman was going to

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Speaker 1: be their producer director, and we went to his restaurant,

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Speaker 1: I think yeah and so we sat down and it

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Speaker 1: was myself and the Dannis. We were in the movie

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Speaker 1: Pixel and Pixels, and I just we wanted to ask

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Speaker 1: akroid all these questions about Saturday Night Live or John Belushi,

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Speaker 1: and we just were sort of biding our time. We're

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Speaker 1: just waiting. We didn't say anything. We didn't we didn't

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Speaker 1: have any questions. We were just kind of going, yeah, okay, great, good.

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Speaker 1: And then Sandler finally goes, hey, these guys, uh, these

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Speaker 1: guys want to know about Saturday Night Live and blah

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Speaker 1: blah blah, and so Akroyd just started telling us stories

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Speaker 1: that he's probably told many many times, but because Sandler

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Speaker 1: asked him, now, go Danny, tell him tell him the

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Speaker 1: Saturdaynight Live story. Yeah, paut Ackroyd did such a salad

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Speaker 1: because we were all geeking out that he were at

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Speaker 1: the same table. He goes, I'll give you one. He goes.

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Speaker 1: When I was on Say Live, everybody none of us

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Speaker 1: made any money, so really, so we'd all put twenty

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Speaker 1: bucks in and we'd have a runner go out and

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Speaker 1: buy some weed, and we'd keep it in the writer's

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Speaker 1: room because we just had it around. He goes, and

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Speaker 1: I had a little shoe box, and I put it

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Speaker 1: above my desk and everyone knew to come there, and

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Speaker 1: they always stepped on my chair. He goes, I move

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Speaker 1: on my career. Twenty years later, I get asked to

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Speaker 1: come back to Saturay Live twenty years later. Twenty three

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Speaker 1: years later, he goes, I walk in the room. Everyone's

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Speaker 1: looking at me. I stood on a step stool, opened up,

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Speaker 1: and there's the box and there's still like forty bucks

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Speaker 1: h in it and some other stuff that was not

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Speaker 1: good anymore. But it got to be really bad competitive

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Speaker 1: back in the seventies with Saturday Night Live, with hiding

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Speaker 1: their stash, and then you'd have people knocking out the

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Speaker 1: tiles in the ceiling looking for people's stash, you know,

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Speaker 1: as they were doing Saturday Night Live. Fascinating, but Ackroyd

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Speaker 1: was really generous in telling stories and he was animated

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Speaker 1: with it. And I always thought that was one of

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Speaker 1: the cooler gestures that Sandler did. That he just said

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Speaker 1: to Acroid, because if we ask then it would have

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Speaker 1: been different. Here's Sandler asking it, and then Akroid just

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Speaker 1: he started talking for the next thirty minutes. Yest Un

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Speaker 1: I was desperate to ask him a question about Erwin Mainway,

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Speaker 1: the character played of making toys that are unsafe for children.

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Speaker 1: One of his classics. It's a bag of glass. The

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Speaker 1: kids could look at their reflective light, so bag of glass.

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Speaker 1: They just played with the little tabblers. Or when he

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Speaker 1: played Julia Child and you know, they blood all over

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Speaker 1: the place he's cooking on there. Yeah, there was, there was.

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Speaker 1: There was a lot of things to ask him about,

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Speaker 1: but we didn't. He just talked and then once he

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Speaker 1: was done talking, then that was pretty much it. We

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Speaker 1: didn't want to go, hey, wait, one more thing. It wasn't.

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Speaker 1: But he was very, very protective with Belushi because he

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Speaker 1: hated when people came up and said, hey, I'm friends

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Speaker 1: with John Belushi, and then Akroyd would say, yeah, tell

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Speaker 1: me how like he did not. He did not suffer

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Speaker 1: fools gladly when it came to John, he was. He

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Speaker 1: was so protective. And even now he just said, you know,

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Speaker 1: I know who john friends were, And when people come

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Speaker 1: up and they want to ask me about John, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm suspicious, and he said, you know, and rightfully, so

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Speaker 1: all right, we have Scotty Miller on the Bucks wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: In fact, it was about an hour ago where I

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Speaker 1: asked him pretty fast. He thinks he ran maybe in

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Speaker 1: the low four threes, high four twos, but he didn't

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Speaker 1: get to go to the combine. And it feels it

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Speaker 1: feels like he you know, he's a little frosty about that. That. Hey,

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Speaker 1: you know, I ran a four to three nine, but

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Speaker 1: it was faster than that. So I asked Scotty Miller

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Speaker 1: and the Buccaneers wide receiver, if he could beat Tyreek

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Speaker 1: Hill in a race, how would you do if you

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Speaker 1: and Tyreek Hill lined up. I'm taking me every day

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Speaker 1: of the week. I'll take me over anybody. Tyreek is unbelievable,

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Speaker 1: super quick, unbelievable talent. But we're talking about race. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I got all the confidence of myself against going up

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Speaker 1: against anybody. Wait, you think you're the fastest guy in

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Speaker 1: the NFL? Yes, sir. He did say Tyreek was quick.

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Speaker 1: There's a difference in that. A lot of guys are quick.

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Speaker 1: I think Tyreek is quick, and I think he's fast.

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Speaker 1: He also talked about the play at the end of

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Speaker 1: the first half when Brady threw him the bomb for

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Speaker 1: the touchdown. When did you know that this could turn

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Speaker 1: into a touchdown? Yeah? So, like before the play. Like

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Speaker 1: I said, I wasn't really expecting this to happen at all.

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Speaker 1: But right when I right when I took off and

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Speaker 1: I saw him not running. In my head, I'm like, dude,

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Speaker 1: I'm like number twenty. You bet so. At that moment

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Speaker 1: when I saw him just kind of like in a

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Speaker 1: slow background, I'm like, I'm about to score. And then

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Speaker 1: I looked up and so Tims's not the same thing

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Speaker 1: I did. The ball just floating. Joanny, you better start

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Speaker 1: running because he's back pedaling because he's he's looking at

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Speaker 1: Brady and Scotty Miller knows he's got a touchdown there.

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Speaker 1: It's not just a game. It's Wednesday Night hockey this

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Speaker 1: week tonight Blackhawks Predators Wednesday Night Eastern on NBCs in

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Speaker 1: Scott in South Carolina, Hey Scott, what's on your mind today? Hey? Dan?

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Speaker 1: Five nine, rock solid, one seventy five. Man, I've heard

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Speaker 1: something you were saying earlier about bud Sea League PD's

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. You know, David Ortiz is going to

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Speaker 1: stale into the Hall of Fame and he's got a

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Speaker 1: positive test on his resume. I really have an issue

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Speaker 1: with that. If we're not going to let these other

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Speaker 1: guys in who don't have positive tests the way that

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Speaker 1: he does. If if you'll recall as well Steve Willstein

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Speaker 1: when he broke the Mark McGuire Andrews story, he was

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Speaker 1: vilified by Baseball but also other members of the media

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Speaker 1: for breaking that story. So while I do agree the

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Speaker 1: players Union is the big driving force and keeping the

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Speaker 1: drug testing out of Major League Baseball for a long time,

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Speaker 1: I really do also think the media is not cleaning

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Speaker 1: all of this. Neither are the fans. We've all got

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Speaker 1: to wear this guilt collectively, and I really think that

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Speaker 1: these guys should be in the Hall of Fame. All right, Well,

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Speaker 1: thank you, Scott, You're right about it. I mean, we

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Speaker 1: celebrated McGuire and SOTSA. We loved it. I was working

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Speaker 1: at Sports Center, went to Wrigley that year a couple

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00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: of times to see Sammy. You know, you're right, we celebrated.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know as much about it then when I

601
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Speaker 1: did find out, it cost me a friendship with Jason Gimby,

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Speaker 1: Like I didn't know enough, and I just remember that

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Speaker 1: we were on a roller coaster ride. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: the feeling I had that the sport itself was on

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Speaker 1: this roller coaster ride and I'm I'm not thinking about

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Speaker 1: how big they are. I'm enjoying the ride. And I

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00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: was guilty, I think of being more of a fan

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Speaker 1: than I should have been. And I remember when, you know,

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Speaker 1: I had to call out Jason Giambi and he had

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Speaker 1: been a friend, invited me to his wedding, and I

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00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: still loved being around him, but I had to do

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Speaker 1: my job. It's like I I waited longer than I

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Speaker 1: should have to do my job, if that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: And then I felt like, Okay, now I got to

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Speaker 1: be the gatekeeper. Now I got to be I'm on

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Speaker 1: Sports Center, I'm on the Marquee Show. Now it's incumbent

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Speaker 1: upon me to make sure that I don't drop my

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Speaker 1: guard again. And it's tricky. I mean, it really is,

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Speaker 1: and it has been. I was friends with a Rod

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Speaker 1: you know, when he was with Seattle. We almost well

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Speaker 1: he almost you know, Cony did confront me. You know,

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Speaker 1: I had a problem with some things with him, but uh,

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Speaker 1: I mean I wasn't some steroid vigilante there. I wasn't

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Speaker 1: you know, Charles Bronson going out, you know, trying to

625
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Speaker 1: track people down. But you know, there was part of

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Speaker 1: me that I needed to keep a closer eye and

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Speaker 1: talk to people about this, And that happened after McGuire

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Speaker 1: and Sosa. I was texting with McGuire's representative before that.

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Speaker 1: They're going into Congress, and I am texting to say,

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Speaker 1: what is your strategy here? Because I was hoping Mark

631
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Speaker 1: was clean? Deep down I knew he wasn't. I knew

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Speaker 1: Conseco wasn't. I knew those guys who were Raphael Palmiero.

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Speaker 1: But there's part of you that says, tell me what

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Speaker 1: I was watching was real, because as sports fans, that's

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Speaker 1: what we want to know. Is it real? Did you

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Speaker 1: do it legitimately? And then when you find out, that's

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Speaker 1: why everybody turned on Lance Armstrong because it wasn't real,

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Speaker 1: but it was real in the sense everybody was cheating.

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Speaker 1: So Lance just was a better writer and they were

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Speaker 1: all using the same stuff. Barry Bonds was using what

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Speaker 1: everybody else was using. He was just a better baseball player.

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Speaker 1: Should he get in the Hall of Fame? If you

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Speaker 1: cheated later in your career, you sort of cheated. We

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Speaker 1: think you cheated. I gets It's it's really really tricky,

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Speaker 1: you know, Mike Piazza always had a good relationship with him.

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Speaker 1: Do I think he used steroids? Yes, I do, but

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Speaker 1: that's not enough. I don't. I don't know. But do

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Speaker 1: I think yes? Have I talked to people, Yes, But

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Speaker 1: I don't know. And then it gets to I'm not

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Speaker 1: judging jury. I'm not voting on this. I'm glad I

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Speaker 1: don't vote on this, But I don't know how important

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Speaker 1: it is to you, the fans, if Barry Bonds gets

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Speaker 1: in or Roger Clemens, like the media, we're like, hey,

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Speaker 1: we're not going to screw this up. You know. Now,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna hold everybody accountable. Well, if that's the case,

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Speaker 1: a Rod should even be on the ballot. You test

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Speaker 1: so they bust you twice. This isn't rumor innuendo. But look,

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Speaker 1: it's up to the writers, major League Baseball, in the

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, whatever they want to do. You know,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't ruin my day. And I would go to Cooperstown,

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Speaker 1: and if I went to Cooperstown and I had grandkids,

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Speaker 1: and I would say, oh, you know this player, you know,

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Speaker 1: by the way, whatever, or Pete Rose, whatever, you tell

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Speaker 1: them the story of that. I mean, it's that's part

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Speaker 1: of baseball. It's the history of baseball is not perfect.

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Speaker 1: It's been ugly, and there are guys who got in

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Speaker 1: in the or forties and fifties and sixties. By today's standards,

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Speaker 1: they wouldn't be getting in the Hall of Fame. Yeampo.

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Speaker 1: The David Orti situation is very murky because his goes

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Speaker 1: back to one positive test from that two thousand and

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Speaker 1: three spring training survey, the Minitual Report, right where the

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Speaker 1: players were told they were giving a sample that would

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Speaker 1: never see the light of day. It was just used

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Speaker 1: to gauge the amount of steroids they are used in baseball.

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Speaker 1: Eventually it came out and Dave Ortiz's name was on

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Speaker 1: the two thousand and three Mitchell Report. Commissioner Manfred said

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Speaker 1: that that report in those tests are under question, that

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Speaker 1: there was at least ten false positives in the tests

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Speaker 1: that Ortiz was part of. He also the commission defended

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Speaker 1: Ortiz by saying, since the drug testing policy started at

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Speaker 1: oh four, until the end of Ortiz's career, he never

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Speaker 1: failed a drug test. So that is why I think people, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: give Ortiz the nod. He's going to get the benefit

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Speaker 1: of the down and likability. Yes, and he's got a

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Speaker 1: great story to tell. There were one hundred and four

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Speaker 1: positive tests with that Mitchell report, but then they said

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Speaker 1: that there could have been false positives. But there were

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Speaker 1: quite a few players that were on that list, and

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Speaker 1: you know, baseball was like, hey, let's just kind of

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Speaker 1: find out what the numbers are because they were telling

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Speaker 1: us five percent or dirty five percent, that's it, and

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Speaker 1: I went, boy, that is I remember talking to John Smoltzen.

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Speaker 1: I go, John, why why's the five percent running baseball?

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Speaker 1: And then he said, well, it's not five percent. I said, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know, but they keep spitting out these numbers. Hey,

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Speaker 1: ninety five percent are clean. All right, let me take

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Speaker 1: a break. Bob Costas will join us on the topic

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Speaker 1: coming up next hour, and Richard Sherman, the Niners defensive back,

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Speaker 1: Bruce Arian said it's a huge advantage for the Buccaneers

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Speaker 1: to be playing the Super Bowl at home. I don't

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Speaker 1: They have an advantage, it's not a huge advantage in

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Speaker 1: my opinion. I also saw the Ringer had a comparison

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Speaker 1: basically saying, and I'm paraphrasing, Brady and Mahomes would be

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Speaker 1: like Michael Jordan facing Lebron James. And the reason why

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Speaker 1: I don't agree with it. Is is Tom Brady is

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Speaker 1: not Michael Jordan in his sport right now. Jordan at

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Speaker 1: his best was still the best player in the game.

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Speaker 1: Tom's not the best player in the game. Is not

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Speaker 1: the best quarterback. He's not going to be the best

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Speaker 1: quarterback in this game. Mahomes playing the role of Lebron James. Okay,

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Speaker 1: but Tom a couple of years ago I could see that,

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Speaker 1: but not this year where I would go, Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: that's equal with with Lebron to Michael as Mahomes is

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Speaker 1: to Brady. Yeah, mcclub, you'd still give him better than

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Speaker 1: Wizards Jordan though, right, that was nothing unless you thought

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Speaker 1: that there. Yeah, but he wasn't playing for anything back then. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he still scored twenty a game, which is amazing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but they weren't a good team. They weren't playing for championships.

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Speaker 1: It's Brady with his skill level at this stage in

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Speaker 1: his career. Is It's not It doesn't equate to Jordan

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Speaker 1: at his peak and Jordan. If Jordan was facing Lebron

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Speaker 1: at his peak and Lebron was still in the beginning

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Speaker 1: stages of his career, then Okay, I understand that but

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Speaker 1: Tom is not the best quarterback in football right now. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it does seem like Brady, though, has eclipsed the quarterback conversation,

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Speaker 1: and now it's he's got to be compared to other sports,

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Speaker 1: like it's the greatest quarterback in NFL history. That conversation

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Speaker 1: appears to be done for quite a while and done

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Speaker 1: done if he wins next Sunday, a week from Sunday.

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Speaker 1: But Tom has never been viewed as the best player

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Speaker 1: in football. But Jordan was the best player in basketball, Okay,

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Speaker 1: Lebron to me is the best player in basketball. And

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Speaker 1: so if we're gonna go Jordan at his peak, Lebron

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Speaker 1: as the best. And this is even Jordan at his peak,

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Speaker 1: Lebron in his peak, that's a few years ago. But

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Speaker 1: I guess if you looked, if you change the Samanta's

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Speaker 1: argument to best career, you know, because that's not best athlete,

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Speaker 1: best player. If you said best career in sports history,

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Speaker 1: Brady's he's right there, if not the best, well Brady

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Speaker 1: is he and Lebron are very similar with the number

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Speaker 1: of times they've gotten to the championship games. You know,

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Speaker 1: Jack Nicholas came in second, I think eighteen nineteen times

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Speaker 1: in majors, which imagine if he had five more but

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Speaker 1: he finished second. I think eighteen or nineteen times to

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Speaker 1: go along with eighteen majors. You know, Lebron got there,

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Speaker 1: and I still you know there what happened to Jordan

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Speaker 1: the other times that he didn't get there? I think

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Speaker 1: that should be factored into the equation here. Lebron got there,

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Speaker 1: Brady got there, and the only way you can win

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Speaker 1: is if you get there. Yes, he feels like if

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Speaker 1: you're looking sport to sport, though it's a lot harder

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Speaker 1: to do it in football than it is basketball. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: which that might not be fair, but you're relying on

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Speaker 1: a lot more people and there's way more things that

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Speaker 1: can go wrong in football than there are basketball. Yes, yep,

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Speaker 1: right on board with that. By the way, Lakers versus

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Speaker 1: the seventy six ers tonight, that's kind of spicy. Joe

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Speaker 1: l Embiid and his MVP candidacy, I still think it's

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Speaker 1: I think Lebron is on a mission to win the

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Speaker 1: MVP this year. I think it's really important he's playing

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Speaker 1: every game. I just think he wants to let the

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Speaker 1: voters know early this time because it felt like Lebron

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Speaker 1: emerged on the scene later last season, and he's letting.

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Speaker 1: I think he's got everybody on notice. I'm playing. There's

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Speaker 1: no load management. We want the best record in basketball,

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Speaker 1: and I'm going to play for another championship. Yeah. See.

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Speaker 1: Do you think when Lebron and Michael Jordan get together,

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Speaker 1: they commiserate about being underappreciated. I'm not winning enough MPPs,

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Speaker 1: me and you buddy, me and you. Oh, didn't Kobe

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Speaker 1: only win one? I think he only won one? Yeah, mcluv.

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Speaker 1: I'm so confused. But how come he doesn't need to

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Speaker 1: load manage. It feels like he's playing himself in the

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Speaker 1: better shape. Baby. Load management is all wrong. No, but

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Speaker 1: he's playing. And I said this at the start of

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Speaker 1: the season that if you play, but you don't play

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Speaker 1: the same number of minutes. These are the lowest minutes

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Speaker 1: of his career and this is per game, and I

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Speaker 1: Obviously to win another championship, but be the MVP at

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Speaker 1: this age. I don't know, is Creem the oldest to

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