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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in Tuesday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Happy

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Speaker 2: Halloween to all of you out there celebrating. Not Buck Sexton,

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Speaker 2: who hates Halloween, the only person I may know in

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Speaker 2: America who hates Halloween.

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Speaker 3: We'll have a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Of spooky fun with all of you as we roll

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Speaker 2: throughout this day. I know a lot of kids and

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Speaker 2: grandkids and also many adults out there will be going

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Speaker 2: a little bit a little bit fasted. Buck, you're did

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Speaker 2: you get the candy? Are you going to at least

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Speaker 2: give candy out to children who knock on your door?

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Speaker 2: Not only is my wife responsible now for picking up

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Speaker 2: a bunch of candy so that we can spread I

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Speaker 2: don't know what this, this notion that I'm so anti

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Speaker 2: Halloween just because I don't address Halloween hater, I think

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Speaker 2: you should just own it. There's probably a segment of

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Speaker 2: the population. You could be their king. I just because

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Speaker 2: I don't dress up as like mister potato Head or

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Speaker 2: something where I'm not dressed as Taylor Swift's new bau whatever.

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Speaker 2: Everybody messed up as Travis Kelcey and Taylor Swift this year.

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Speaker 3: That's the number one Halloween costume. I don't think.

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Speaker 2: Anybody would buy me as Travis Kelcey, so I'd probably

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Speaker 2: stay away from that costume. Nonetheless, no, we're gonna be

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Speaker 2: given out candy. We might even have the depending. The

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Speaker 2: puppy if she's in a teething mood, might be kind

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Speaker 2: of terrifying, So we could probably put like a little

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Speaker 2: you know, Dracula cape on her because she likes to

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Speaker 2: she likes to nip like Dracula does. The dogs getting

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Speaker 2: dressed up, I'm not gonna lie, especially when they put

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Speaker 2: fake legs on them and it looks like they're running.

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Speaker 2: I mean, those videos are very popular on Instagram. I

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Speaker 2: can't I laugh every time I see it. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it works on me, the dogs in costume. So if

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Speaker 2: you guys now have the opportunity also have a confession

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Speaker 2: to make real quick, which is that you know, we

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Speaker 2: do have some candy already in the house. And I

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Speaker 2: just think that Reese's pieces are fair game, Like I

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Speaker 2: don't think that has to be a Halloween candy thing. Like,

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Speaker 2: I think you can just hit the Reese's pieces whenever

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Speaker 2: you feel like it. You mean the peanut buttercups, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: of course. I think the Reese's Peanut butter cup is

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Speaker 2: the absolute apex of can the creation.

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Speaker 3: I don't think you can be.

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Speaker 2: I think that's actually the most popular single candy. What

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Speaker 2: you'll see at some point, Buck, when you have children

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Speaker 2: is Halloween is a great opportunity to teach him about taxation.

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Speaker 2: So the dad tax shows up and they come back with,

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Speaker 2: you know, tons of candy, and Dad will dive in

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Speaker 2: and say, hey, this is what the government does. Government

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Speaker 2: just takes you know, you know, you you did all

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Speaker 2: the work, you brought it back home. And then Dad's

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Speaker 2: big government just goes right into the candy and takes

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Speaker 2: whatever he wants a percentage of. If you're like Urice's

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Speaker 2: piece is missing and all of a sudden you recognize

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Speaker 2: that maybe taxation is theft. The other thing that your

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Speaker 2: kids will get smart about, Buck one day, is they

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Speaker 2: know what I like the best. So when people leave

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Speaker 2: nice thing to do. If you're going to be out

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Speaker 2: take one piece, kids will hopefully hit be honest, do it.

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Speaker 3: But I love peanut m and ms. For instance.

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Speaker 2: My kids will not take a penut eminem or a

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Speaker 2: Reese's Pieces cup if they are the options there, because

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Speaker 2: they know that Dad is more likely to tax that.

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Speaker 2: So there is like a CounterPunch to the Dad tax

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Speaker 2: when it shows up. So again, parents, good opportunity to

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Speaker 2: teach about taxation and how unfair it is by going

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Speaker 2: in taking a few pieces of candy. Later tonight, all

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Speaker 2: that's going on, we'll have some fun with that. I

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Speaker 2: watched Scream last night with the boys.

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Speaker 3: Buck.

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Speaker 2: We've been watching a lot of Halloween movies, the Lost Boys.

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Speaker 2: It's been a lot of fun to watch the eighties

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Speaker 2: and nineties movies with them. But there are serious things

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Speaker 2: going on. We have double wars, and the pivot from

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Speaker 2: Israel is probably one that doesn't happen on very many

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Speaker 2: shows in America. We're covering all the bases here, and

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Speaker 2: I think a really strong editorial in this morning's Wall

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Speaker 2: Street Journal Buck making basically the same argument which is

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Speaker 2: this what is going on in Israel right now? Anyone

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Speaker 2: who is arguing for a ceasefire would essentially be saying,

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Speaker 2: after Pearl Harbor or nine to eleven, Hey, America, you

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Speaker 2: need to just let the people who attacked you get

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Speaker 4: I want to make clear of Israel's position regarding the ceasefire.

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Speaker 4: Just as the United States would not agree to a

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Speaker 4: cease fire after the bombing of Pearl Harbor or after

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Speaker 4: the terrorist attack of nine to eleven, Israel will not

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Speaker 4: agree to a cessation of facilities with Ramas after the

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Speaker 4: horrific attacks of October seventh. Calls for a cease fire

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Speaker 4: are calls for Israel to surrender to Ramas, to surrender

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Speaker 1: That will not happen.

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Speaker 2: It is fundamentally a fight between civilization and barbarism. We've

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Speaker 2: said that on this show. Netan Yahoo is you know,

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Speaker 2: reiterating that and leading this fight now as a Prime

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Speaker 2: Minister of Israel against the barbarism of Hamas. One thing

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Speaker 2: that I do think is interesting from just the perspective

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Speaker 2: this is much more about Islam and Judaism. It's much

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Speaker 2: more of that. There's a religious component to the way

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Speaker 2: people frame the conflict in this country. It's it's very apparent.

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Speaker 2: And you see this with the way there's been BLM solidarity,

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Speaker 2: and you see this with the campus anti colonialist activists

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Speaker 2: lunatics walking around, you know, marching around and shouting and

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Speaker 2: all the anti Semitism they're spewing. They think of this

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Speaker 2: as a racial conflict, which is completely rooted in ignorance

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Speaker 2: of what Israel really is and who really lives there,

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Speaker 2: and the situation and the fact that there are a

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Speaker 2: million Palestinians who live inside of Israel in peace and security,

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Speaker 2: that most Israelis are actually ethnically from the Middle East

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Speaker 2: or not Ashkenazi or European descent Jews. That there are

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Speaker 2: a tremendous amount of ignorance about the conflict that is

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Speaker 2: fueling part of the left wing lunacy here Clay, and

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Speaker 2: then there's different left wing lunacies or you know, different

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Speaker 2: either ignorance or anti Semitism or a combination thereof that

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Speaker 2: Obviously we mentioned yesterday in Dagistan, which is think of

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Speaker 2: terrify them. So this has become a global really a

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Speaker 2: and what we've already seen. You know, Hamas, the notion

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Speaker 2: of a ceasefire, Clay Hamas is still a threat to

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Speaker 2: Israel right now. There could be another terror attack tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: There could be another terror attack in a year. The

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Speaker 2: not only are the people demanding a ceasefire and the

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Speaker 2: people pretending that collateral unintentional collateral civilian casualties on the

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Speaker 2: That is a lie and that's really one of the

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Speaker 2: fundamental lies of all this. But they're asking the Israelis

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Speaker 2: really defend themselves because there's an ongoing threat. That's why

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Speaker 2: the al Qaeda. Now people forget this. Clay I worked

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Speaker 2: in CTC at the CIA, and there were a lot

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Speaker 2: of al Qaeda efforts After nine to eleven. There were

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Speaker 2: ongoing efforts. People forget this. We were very close to

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Speaker 2: losing an airliner on Christmas Day and I think it

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Speaker 3: People remember the shoe bomber.

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Speaker 2: This is why you had to take your shoes off

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Speaker 2: of they Oh, you know, in retrospect, people think, oh,

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Speaker 2: well it didn't work.

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Speaker 1: It could have worked.

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Speaker 3: Obviously they had a plan.

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Speaker 2: Obviously they were trying to take down an entire I

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Speaker 2: think there were like one hundred and forty people on

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Speaker 2: this plane on Christmas Day two thousand and nine. So

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Speaker 2: they were ongoing Al Qaeda plots, ongoing terrorist threats. And

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Speaker 2: that was many, many years later. There were many that

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Speaker 2: other things. So what is the what is the call

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Speaker 2: for cease What I would want to know, Clay for

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Speaker 2: anyone who says we should have a ceasefire, when does

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Speaker 2: the ceasefire cease? When it does, it allowed to fight back.

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Speaker 2: That's that's the important part. The ceasefire is not designed

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Speaker 2: my concern buck as Israel waited two weeks basically to

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Speaker 2: up bending to political pressure because in the immediate aftermath

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Speaker 3: Do you really need to go in now?

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Speaker 2: And I give net and Yahoo credit for making a clear, concise,

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Speaker 2: I think very important argument not only the audio we

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Speaker 2: what does it say that Netanyahu is more eloquent in

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Speaker 2: there's all sorts of issues domestically in Israel outside of

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Speaker 3: I understand.

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Speaker 2: But Netanyahu is a I think, brilliant guy who is

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Speaker 2: lawlessly able to elucidate the compelling nature of his nation's

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Speaker 2: language better than Joe Biden right now can communicate in

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Speaker 2: which is English. Well, it's impossible for Joe Biden to

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Speaker 2: we always discuss, I think that there is a machinery

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Speaker 3: Just so it's good.

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Speaker 2: That's not always the case, right, you know, the Trump presidency,

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Speaker 3: Sometimes people say maybe he went.

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Speaker 2: A little too quickly with things before letting the rest

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Speaker 3: Welcome back.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about the ongoing conflict with Israel and Hamas

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Speaker 2: is saying that he wants donors to stop donating to Harvard.

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Speaker 3: Listen to this one play. Three students have.

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Speaker 5: Been responsible for some of the worst blood baths and

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Speaker 1: Stalin our children.

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Speaker 3: Hitler relied on college students.

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Speaker 5: There's no excuse. These are Hitler's youth, and president of

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Speaker 6: After a lot of pressure, willing to condemn Hamas, but

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Speaker 5: Send your contributions to decent organizations that know the difference

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Speaker 2: I to say, while I agree with the sentiments of

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Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines.

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Speaker 2: People that you know, national Security advisor, they're the ones

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Speaker 2: something that looks like we're not just docking their lunch

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Speaker 2: money or something like that, right, or you know, taking

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Speaker 2: their lunch money that you know, it's usually not as

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Speaker 2: cut and dry as like, sir, there's option A, we're

442
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Speaker 2: going to hit this, there's option B.

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Speaker 3: We're going to hit that, and.

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Speaker 2: They just sort of like lay it out in front

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Speaker 2: of him. But with Joe Biden, I think they probably

446
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Speaker 2: do have a more simplified version of it. I think

447
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Speaker 2: Biden if I think Biden is signing off on major

448
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Speaker 2: decisions instead of formulating them, yeah, meaning like not, I

449
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,919
Speaker 2: don't think he's deeply involved himself in what's going on,

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Speaker 2: even on the most critical national security issues. I think blinking,

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Speaker 2: and probably some others sit down with him and say, sir,

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Speaker 2: here's what we're thinking, and he just kind of mutters

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Speaker 2: something like yeah, okay.

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Speaker 3: I mean this is so scary.

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Speaker 2: A president who has trouble exiting the stage when he speaks,

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Speaker 2: who can barely read a teleprompter, making decisions in a dynamic,

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Speaker 2: fluid situation that other leaders have to analyze and respond to. Fuck,

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is just this is I mean, let's

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Speaker 2: be honest. This is how World War IIE happens. Right,

460
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Speaker 2: there's a miscalculation as to how someone is going to respond.

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Speaker 2: We're seen as weak. They feel like they can push

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Speaker 2: us around. You know how it often happens if you're

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Speaker 2: seen as weak. At some point you misjudge and try

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Speaker 2: to prove that you're not weak by overreaching and trying

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Speaker 2: to be way too proportional. This is the little man syndrome.

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Speaker 2: Everybody knows what I'm talking about. Like you're walking through

467
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Speaker 2: a bar and a little guy gets bumped and he's

468
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Speaker 2: insecure about being little, and he decides that he wants

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Speaker 2: to start a huge fight. Now we got the little

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Speaker 2: guy syndrome with Biden. We got the mentally deficient syndrome.

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Speaker 2: With Biden, We've got real difficulty buck and even knowing

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Speaker 2: who's making decisions. Who does Biden rely on. You know,

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Speaker 2: we made fun of it, but when Hillary's talking about

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Speaker 2: who answers the phone call at three am, at least

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Speaker 2: she could potentially have woken up. I'm not even sure

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Speaker 2: they wake Biden up at this point. I'm not sure

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Speaker 2: they can get him out of bed at three am

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Speaker 2: to understand what's going on. This is not just a

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Speaker 2: scary time. I think that a lot of the people

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Speaker 2: who who vote Biden or who support Biden still to

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Speaker 2: this point, I think that their version of this would be, well,

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Speaker 2: it's fine, he doesn't have to be making those decisions,

483
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Speaker 2: and then they just revert to I really believe this,

484
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Speaker 2: and you're gonna see this so many times in so

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Speaker 2: many ways over the course of the general election. It's

486
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Speaker 2: better him than Trump. I mean, even Morning Joe. I

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Speaker 2: think on that show they said that recently, could you

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Speaker 2: imagine if Donald Trump was president right now?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 2: This is the thing that they say, which is pretty

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Speaker 2: mind blowing because it's an inversion of the reality that

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Speaker 2: we've seen, which is that Russia invades under Biden, Hamas

493
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Speaker 2: does the worst terror attack since nine to eleven under Biden.

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Speaker 2: I mean, these things occur, we have events, right, we

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Speaker 2: have evidence of when do our enemies think it's a

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Speaker 2: better time to act? And yet there's still this belief

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Speaker 2: among Democrats, Oh, it's better now than it would be

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Speaker 2: if Trump was president.

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Speaker 3: So that can kind of just excuse.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, whatever, one hundred percent right about that. If I

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Speaker 2: really believe that if Trump were president, Putin would have

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Speaker 2: never invaded Ukraine. And I believe that given what we've

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Speaker 2: seen with Putin and Ukraine. I also think Hamas would

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Speaker 2: not I think Iran would have been terrified to sign

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Speaker 2: off on Hamas attacking Israel in this manner if Trump

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Speaker 2: were president.

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Speaker 3: Do you believe that?

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Speaker 2: Do you think they would have done this if Trump

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Speaker 2: were president of the United States. I think it would

510
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Speaker 2: have been a part of the calculation, and I think

511
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Speaker 2: there would have been more trepidation from the bad guys

512
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Speaker 2: from you know, the evil team here about messing around

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Speaker 2: with Donald Trump as a commander in chief. It always

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Speaker 2: reminds me of a little bit of of the line

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Speaker 2: in Tombstone, which is one of my favorite probably one

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Speaker 2: of my favorite great westerns. It's a great movie. But

517
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Speaker 2: remember they give the shotgun to Doc Holliday and they

518
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Speaker 2: say they make they may get a little less antsy

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Speaker 2: if Doc is on the street Howitzer.

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Speaker 3: That's what they call it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's kind of the way I always felt

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Speaker 2: about Trump as commander in chief. You had Doc Holliday

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Speaker 2: on the on the street Howitzer, like you had a

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Speaker 2: guy who the other side had to think about, Oh wow.

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Speaker 2: He may not sit around and have a meeting with

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Speaker 2: like the un about what to do. He may just decide,

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Speaker 2: you gotta you gotta punch the bully right in the face.

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Speaker 2: Another example of that would be a great movie speech

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Speaker 2: Jack Nicholson's on the Wall character and a few good men.

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Speaker 2: You know, basically, you need me on that wall, you

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Speaker 2: want me on that wall. Everything may I'd be perfect.

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Speaker 2: But I really firmly believe that Vladimir Putin would not

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Speaker 2: have invaded Ukraine, and I don't think Iran would have

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Speaker 2: signed off, which I believe they did based on the

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Speaker 2: reporting that we've seen on the Hamas attack on Israel

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Speaker 2: if Trump were in charge, because I think they would

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Speaker 2: have been terrified as to what Trump might do.

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Speaker 3: Back to them.

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Speaker 2: And I don't think there's any fear at all of

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Speaker 2: what Biden might do. And I don't think it's a

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Speaker 2: coincidence that all of this started to happen after our

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Speaker 2: incredible weakness in the way that we withdrew from Afghanistan.

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Speaker 2: Here's to make this because I think in a lot

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Speaker 2: of foreign policy stuff, people like to keep it all vague.

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Speaker 3: And my team is better than their team. And here's one.

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Speaker 2: Area where I think, if I truly believe this with

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Speaker 2: tremendous conviction, if Donald Trump were president, this like cease

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Speaker 2: fire talk. Trump would be saying that this is nonsense Israel.

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Speaker 2: Israel's got to go in there. This is a fight

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Speaker 2: of good versus evil. The ceasefire talk is just meant

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Speaker 2: to prevent Israel from being able to defend itself.

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Speaker 3: End of story.

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Speaker 2: And I think the Biden administry, I know, actually I've

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Speaker 2: talked to people in DC. The Biden administration is very

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Speaker 2: slow down. Don't do too much, you know, be careful,

556
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Speaker 2: watch out. The UN's watching, you know, they're They're taking

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Speaker 2: a very different approach to the backing of Israel, at

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Speaker 2: least behind closed doors. I think Trump would say, we've

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Speaker 2: got your back go in there, and you know this

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Speaker 2: ceasefire talk is just meant to hobble your response. I

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Speaker 2: it's scary times. I mean, when you look down on

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Speaker 2: your phone any moment you think, well, we may be

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Speaker 2: in the multi front ar officially in the Middle East.

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Speaker 2: Who knows what's going to happen in Ukraine, which nobody's

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Speaker 2: talking about. Buck, But that big offensive that was supposed

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Speaker 2: to be so successful that we spent so much money

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Speaker 2: for for Ukraine, they didn't move at all during the

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Speaker 2: whole summer. So all that money we spent and basically

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Speaker 2: we got bogged down stalemate in Ukraine. It doesn't seem

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Speaker 2: like anything's changing in a good way for the Ukrainians

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Speaker 2: anytime soon.

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Speaker 2: In the next hour about uh the Trump Trials and

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Speaker 2: Trump is set to testify in his civil trial next week.

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Speaker 2: There's other stuff going on on the legal front there

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Speaker 2: as well, which we will certainly discuss. And then third hour,

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Speaker 2: we're going to talk to Alex Berenson, because I think

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Speaker 2: what you're seeing now is they they held on to

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Speaker 2: the rituals of covid Idianism as long as they could,

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Speaker 2: even when it was clearly absurd, because the longer they

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Speaker 2: held on to the rituals, the more they extended the timeline,

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Speaker 2: so it was less likely people would say, wait a second, what.

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Speaker 3: The heck were we doing here?

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Speaker 2: You know, delay is a way of denying realization and

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Speaker 2: denying recognition of what really happened. Now you're starting to see,

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Speaker 2: with the data piling up that basically everything they did

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Speaker 2: was not was not only wrong, but actually deeply counterproductive.

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Speaker 2: And and Fauci, who was getting his Rutger's Honorary degree,

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Speaker 2: is someone who or no, was it Hofstra Rutgers? Sorry

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Speaker 2: I think this Hofstra Hostra. I think, yeah, yeah, sorry, Hofstra.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure Rutgers would give him one too, By the way,

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Speaker 2: just I don't think they would refuse, but I think

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Speaker 2: that people are there's basically now no way to hold

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Speaker 2: back the dam of everything we did on COVID was

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Speaker 2: effectively wrong. Like every thing that we did. When I

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Speaker 2: say we, I mean that the country and really most

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Speaker 2: of the world was ordered to do was worse than

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Speaker 2: pointless because it was a lot of it was just bad. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and didn't It didn't save anyone. There was actually no

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Speaker 2: We were led to believe that it was at worst

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Speaker 2: eighty twenty eighty percent benefit play twenty percent cost, and

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Speaker 2: it looks increasingly like it was one hundred percent cost

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Speaker 2: and zero percent benefits, certainly on things like masking, certainly

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Speaker 2: on things like lockdowns.

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Speaker 3: You'll occasionally see some.

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Speaker 2: Like dead end or tweet out, like do you really

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Speaker 2: believe that lockdowns didn't save loves?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I really believe that, Yeah, because everyone got COVID and

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Speaker 2: we never really locked down anyway. People just didn't have

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Speaker 2: to go into the office. I mean, you know, some people,

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Speaker 2: other people did. I mean, the whole thing was absurd.

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Speaker 2: A couple of things that we'll talk about with Barnson

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Speaker 2: on that buck. The New York Magazine, which is a

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Speaker 2: pretty leftist publication there, featured this week COVID lockdowns were

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Speaker 2: a giant experiment. It was a failure a key lesson

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Speaker 2: of the pandemic. Oh, that sounds like something we might

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Speaker 2: have been saying for three years on this program. And

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Speaker 2: I did want to mention this because it's like sports

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Speaker 2: is just pretending this didn't happen.

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Speaker 3: Did you see this, Buck?

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Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes was probably the best quarterback in the NFL

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Speaker 2: got the flu and he was super sick, and they

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Speaker 2: were giving him multiple IVS and he played in his

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Speaker 2: game against Denver. For years now, if you tested positive

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Speaker 2: for COVID, even if you were an athlete and had

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Speaker 2: no idea you didn't get COVID, you had COVID, you

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Speaker 2: were not allowed to play in the game and you

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Speaker 2: had to isolate yourself. You weren't even allowed in the

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Speaker 2: facility if you tested positive for COVID. They canceled games

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Speaker 2: because too many guys testing positive. Again, no symptoms. Patrick Mahomes,

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Speaker 2: they loaded him up with ivs. He was super sick

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Speaker 2: and were right back to now, it would not be

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Speaker 2: good if you're sick, you should still go out there

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Speaker 2: and perform. So the Jordan flu game, which you remember,

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Speaker 2: is like iconic. Jordan was so sick he still played

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Speaker 2: well back in the day. Sorry for people in Utah,

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Speaker 2: reminding you of that series. Now we're back to, oh,

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Speaker 2: if you've got the flu, which is actually way more

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Speaker 2: dangerous to young people than COVID on an average basis.

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Speaker 3: Now you just go right back out and you play.

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Speaker 3: I'm fine with it.

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Speaker 2: I just think all the people who told us that

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Speaker 2: you couldn't play when you had COVID, and all these

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Speaker 2: athletes didn't even know that they had COVID they were

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Speaker 2: testing positive. Now we're a couple of years later, right

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Speaker 2: back to oh, you've got the flu, We'll throw some

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Speaker 2: IVS in you, and you'll go out and play. Nobody

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Speaker 2: talks about the health of other teammates getting the flu.

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Speaker 2: Nobody talking about coaches or officials. Nobody cares. All of

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Speaker 2: a sudden, again, well, what about all these people who

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Speaker 2: told us that we were all gonna die if they

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Speaker 2: played because they had COVID. Also, what about all the

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Speaker 2: math sking that could save so many lives play? Remember

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Speaker 2: that they'll save so many lives if they mask up.

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Speaker 2: And now, all of a sudden, em it's kind of like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it does not really masking anymore. I mean, for the

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Speaker 2: people that ever did.

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Speaker 3: It, I always hated it.

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Speaker 2: Pumped and recognized it was idiotic, but yeah, it's because

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Speaker 2: it was a fashion for a lot of people. And

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Speaker 2: by the way, fashion producer Alli pointing out Buck two,

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Speaker 2: if your kid or your spouse had COVID, you were

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Speaker 2: not supposed to go out either. Remember that it wasn't

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Speaker 2: even just like even if they had no symptoms and

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Speaker 2: even if they felt fine, you had to basically lock

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Speaker 2: down your entire household if you had a mild cold,

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Speaker 2: not even a cold. A lot of people out there

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Speaker 2: have had way worse, worse colds than they did COVID.

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Speaker 2: I hope it's just Spoucheet with his honorary degree, they

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Speaker 2: thank him for our trial run of biomedical communism