Speaker 1: A note to the listener. The following story contains some
Speaker 1: adult content and language. Ice white ice like a winding sheet,
Speaker 1: sheathing each smoke grind, wall Ice on the stove, pipe,
Speaker 1: ice on the bed, ice gleaming overall, sparkling ice on
Speaker 1: the dead man's chest, glittering ice in his hair, ice
Speaker 1: on his fingers, ice at his heart, ice in his
Speaker 1: glassy stare that. Hey, it's it's Oscar Simmonds. Hey, Oscar,
Speaker 1: how are you good? Good? Do you have a few
Speaker 1: minutes just to let you know I'm recording the conversation. Okay,
Speaker 1: I have nothing to hide. How's the listening party going.
Speaker 1: It's going well, certainly, no lack of material. Sorry, yeah,
Speaker 1: don't be compy. Are you kidding me? It's totally worth it.
Speaker 1: I can sleep when I'm dead. What's up? You said
Speaker 1: you found a bunch of photographs and hanks, right, a lot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: each case file had corresponding photos. Unfortunately not in the
Speaker 1: angel box though. Oh no, no, that's okay. I didn't
Speaker 1: think that there would be a question. This may sounds strange.
Speaker 1: Were there uh any that were separated? I need it
Speaker 1: stood out. Yeah, there's a separate envelope that has a
Speaker 1: bunch of old photos. No one in them, though, and
Speaker 1: a few of them are a little disturbing. They wouldn't
Speaker 1: happen to be of a bunch of rooms, would they. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's yeah, they're they're just interiors. How did you know that?
Speaker 1: Just a hunch? I think it may need to come
Speaker 1: take a look at them. If that's okay, why don't
Speaker 1: I send them to you? Oh no, no, no, you
Speaker 1: don't have to do that. No, it's it's really futifly
Speaker 1: all the way up to Seattle for an envelope full
Speaker 1: of snapshots. Okay, yeah, I can give you our corporate
Speaker 1: account then you can. You can ship them overnight. That
Speaker 1: way about be insured. No word about it now, but
Speaker 1: I am fair enough. I'll email you all the info
Speaker 1: as soon as beat off. Okay, I can't drive over
Speaker 1: there later today and get them out to you. Thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you? Um oh, please give my best to fill us.
Speaker 1: Did my grandfather actually solve this thing? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know yet. I'm hoping those those pictures help
Speaker 1: answer the question from Vox Popula and the Los Angeles Harold,
Speaker 1: this is the Angel of Vine. My old hoard ain't
Speaker 1: getting in no ground because my angels. As it turns out,
Speaker 1: if you're in the Los Angeles area, you can take
Speaker 1: a guided tour of Leonard Shaw's famed nine acre bell
Speaker 1: Air estate. I know this because I recently went on
Speaker 1: the tour. In his will, Shaw left his estate to
Speaker 1: the Historical Society so that every inch of the house,
Speaker 1: including the grounds, would be preserved exactly as he left them.
Speaker 1: It wasn't something I would have done before we embarked
Speaker 1: on this little journey together. By the way, not because
Speaker 1: I don't find Hollywood history interesting. I do, um, but
Speaker 1: because Leonard Shaw was never relevant to anything I've been
Speaker 1: working on. And more candidly, why would I care to
Speaker 1: see the surroundings of an uber, wealthy tyrant known for
Speaker 1: decades of bullying and abuse? So then why did I go?
Speaker 1: I went because the next tape through every idiom I
Speaker 1: could imagine at me, it all starts to go off
Speaker 1: the rails, Things begin to unravel, and Hank flies off
Speaker 1: the handle. Are you ready? Because once it derails, it
Speaker 1: doesn't get back on track. Hank decided to break in
Speaker 1: and go on his own private tour of Shaw's estate. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he broke in, And when I realized where he was.
Speaker 1: I thought, what the hell is he doing? This guy
Speaker 1: was a cop. He's got to be smarter than this.
Speaker 1: I understand that whole desperate times call for desperate measures impulse,
Speaker 1: but trespassing couldn't have been Hanks on the option. It
Speaker 1: couldn't have been right. But either way, my speculation is
Speaker 1: irrelevant because it was the option he chose. As I listened,
Speaker 1: I had no idea where he was in regards to
Speaker 1: the house. I didn't know how to place him on
Speaker 1: the grounds. So of course I turned to the internet
Speaker 1: for maybe an aerial shot of the property to get
Speaker 1: an idea, and I did find a photo, and it
Speaker 1: is enormous, And that's when I also found the tour info.
Speaker 1: The day that I went, I brought the recording with
Speaker 1: me to see if I could retrace hank steps and
Speaker 1: figure out why it took him twenty two minutes to
Speaker 1: get to the poolhouse. I will try to guide you
Speaker 1: as best as I can. When you first enter the
Speaker 1: front gate, there's a glaring security floor. That is if
Speaker 1: you're looking for it, like I was. The generator that
Speaker 1: powers the driveway lights is directly inside the outer wall.
Speaker 1: It creates a halfway point in what would be potentially
Speaker 1: leg breaking jump. The driveway is at least fifty yards
Speaker 1: from the gate to the turnaround at the entrance to
Speaker 1: the main house. The front doors are large and heavy,
Speaker 1: so not a lock that could be picked silently. Oh
Speaker 1: I don't know why I thought it would be that easy.
Speaker 1: To the left of the house, it's a wrought iron
Speaker 1: gate onto the grounds, but it's surrounded by topiaries. No
Speaker 1: one would be able to get over or through without
Speaker 1: a chainsaw or a welding torch, two tools seldom associated
Speaker 1: with stealth. To the right is a four car garage
Speaker 1: with a side door that connects to the mud room
Speaker 1: of the house. There are only two ways out of
Speaker 1: the house and onto the back of the property. One
Speaker 1: is through the double doors at the very end of
Speaker 1: the dining room, which lets out directly underneath the balcony
Speaker 1: of Shaw's master suite. It's a stone patio that leads
Speaker 1: to a great lawn where there is absolute lean no cover.
Speaker 1: The only other possibility is through the kitchen, which lets
Speaker 1: out on the side of the house beside a row
Speaker 1: of trees where the trash bins would have been kept.
Speaker 1: Ship The path from the kitchen winds around the side
Speaker 1: and under a trellis to the rose garden. From the
Speaker 1: garden you have two choices, left to the tennis courts plural,
Speaker 1: or right down a winding stone staircase to a landing
Speaker 1: that serves as a lounge. From here you have the
Speaker 1: vantage point of both the courts to the left or
Speaker 1: to the right. At the bottom of another staircase, the pool.
Speaker 1: The amount of space not to mention the grandiosity of luxury.
Speaker 1: When I surveyed from the landing, I admit I admit
Speaker 1: to thinking, what an incredible house to host a party,
Speaker 1: if not for its host, that is, the pool is huge,
Speaker 1: country club huge. The left side is lined with yellow
Speaker 1: and white striped deck chairs and umbrellas, like the ones
Speaker 1: at the Parker in Palm Springs. The right side has
Speaker 1: a twelve ft bar next to a hot tub and
Speaker 1: a cabana with two separate shower rooms. The cabana is
Speaker 1: not the poolhouse. The cabana is just the cabana. At
Speaker 1: the far end of the pool, there is a path
Speaker 1: which leads through a set of spruce trees to an
Speaker 1: impressive single story structure with a concrete span. It looks
Speaker 1: like a Frank Lloyd wrighte cold, imposing, cryptic, almost as
Speaker 1: if it overlooks the house instead of the other way around.
Speaker 1: This is the poolhouse. I wanted to peek inside so
Speaker 1: much more so than anything else on the tour, and
Speaker 1: for obvious reasons that you're about to hear. But we
Speaker 1: didn't have access to anything beyond the pool deck, so
Speaker 1: I was left, in my imagination the entire pool area,
Speaker 1: including the path to the pool house. The entire area
Speaker 1: is out in the open, which Hank seemed to forget momentarily. Jesus,
Speaker 1: the heating go alone. I don't know if you wanted
Speaker 1: to be seen. I don't know if he cared. I
Speaker 1: don't know what he was thinking. From this point forward,
Speaker 1: I was flying just as blind as your and I'm
Speaker 1: in st bitch. Ye never did give me that second scotch.
Speaker 1: M hm ah h Now what are you writing? What?
Speaker 1: I don't mh the hell? Yeah? No. Drip a long
Speaker 1: cord around the back of the neck, between the thighs
Speaker 1: up to the wrist, who as tight as you can
Speaker 1: on each wrist separately. Where the captive struggles, the tighter
Speaker 1: it will become. Did they do to you? Yeah? How
Speaker 1: many were there? Why were you in here. What did
Speaker 1: they do to you? Jesus ship so bitch? Where the
Speaker 1: hell at lights? Wouldn't gods what no, no, panto Barlaton,
Speaker 1: lying sun, I'm gonna oh my god, oh god, I
Speaker 1: get it. I gotta get it. M m. The drive
Speaker 1: is an erratic twenty minutes where Hank doesn't say much,
Speaker 1: but when he does, he sounds like he's completely lost
Speaker 1: his mind. He repeats, I don't understand. He beats on
Speaker 1: the steering wheel and yells out the window as he
Speaker 1: speeds past the only other car on the road at
Speaker 1: that hour. I think he's lucky he didn't get shot
Speaker 1: when he arrived at that house. Come on, goddamn it,
Speaker 1: the officer and I have a loaded weapon. Back away
Speaker 1: to the door, Open away from the door and open up. Hey, hey,
Speaker 1: it's the middle of goddamn knight. Open up. Aren't you
Speaker 1: out of your mind? What are you doing? I was
Speaker 1: ready to shoot your man. It's Hank, Dotty, It's just Hank.
Speaker 1: Hank to death. Sorry, Doty, Sorry, I'm I'm you don't
Speaker 1: look so good, Hank, Now, sit down before you fall down?
Speaker 1: What's got you so bothered? Ah? Yes, part of the talk.
Speaker 1: I get it. I don't want you to have to
Speaker 1: hear the starting. You don't have to explain yourself to me, Hank.
Speaker 1: How about I put on some coffee. You don't have
Speaker 1: to do that, no bother at all. You have that
Speaker 1: not going anywhere anytime soon. Look about you, Hank. I'll
Speaker 1: go put the coffee on and then I'm going back
Speaker 1: to bed. You fellas are on your own after that.
Speaker 1: Thank you, honey, Good night, gentlemen? Where did you come from?
Speaker 1: Should I forget to stop? The tape doesn't make any sense?
Speaker 1: You don't have to understand. What good is this to you?
Speaker 1: My brain's not working right. I feel scattered and I
Speaker 1: don't want to forget anything. Just just listen to me, okay,
Speaker 1: hear me out call whatever the hell you want, but
Speaker 1: I need to record it, so I will forget it. Hank.
Speaker 1: Please just just forget we're recording, and just just ask
Speaker 1: me questions. Please? All right? All right? No sense? Ed?
Speaker 1: I said, all right, yeah, well you tonight? Was it?
Speaker 1: Leonard Shaw as a state and bell Air? Why were
Speaker 1: you there? I think that he and his doctor ad
Speaker 1: La Harrison are responsible for the disappearance and murder of
Speaker 1: Marley and Murray Evans. Ad La Harrison was already clear.
Speaker 1: Can everyone just stop saying that already? For Christ's sakes?
Speaker 1: I know it was clear. I know that. Then what
Speaker 1: makes you think otherwise? The poolhouse? What poolhouse? What are
Speaker 1: you talking about? I found what? What did you fine? Hank?
Speaker 1: I don't know what they did in there? It looked
Speaker 1: like it's simple enough when you walk in. There's a
Speaker 1: couple of couches at bar, pool tables as a code
Speaker 1: rack that I had a drink. And then what I
Speaker 1: opened the closet next to the code rack and there
Speaker 1: were I don't know, what do you call him, like
Speaker 1: a you know that that the feather neck bows that
Speaker 1: there were There were feather bows bow And I got
Speaker 1: that feeling, right, okay that I got that feeling from
Speaker 1: the bowls. No, no, not from the bows, but because
Speaker 1: they didn't it was something wasn't right. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I I got that feeling. Nothing made sense all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, and I didn't wanted to make sense. I
Speaker 1: took out another I took another snapshot. How many pictures
Speaker 1: did you take? I got as much as I could
Speaker 1: with my flashlight. Hey, did Sean know you were in there?
Speaker 1: Just so listen so there's a loan hole away leading
Speaker 1: from the club room. There's doors on the other side
Speaker 1: of this hallway, rooms all the way to the door
Speaker 1: at the other end, but they were all closed, and
Speaker 1: I thought, I thought, why are they all closed? It
Speaker 1: wasn't right, so I opened the first door on the left. Look,
Speaker 1: I've never seen this stuff before. I'm not following you, Hank.
Speaker 1: There are hooks on the wall, and there were masks,
Speaker 1: and there's there's ropes and chains for what they They
Speaker 1: tied him to a board. There were scratch marks, and
Speaker 1: there was this this the garden hose with a trojan
Speaker 1: tied around. When I and they tied him to a board,
Speaker 1: it sounds like they're into kink, Hank, screwkink. I don't
Speaker 1: care if they're kinky. That played times none of my business.
Speaker 1: But it doesn't stop there. And this was only the
Speaker 1: first room. Now, the next door was to a closet
Speaker 1: and it was locked. Why so I Jimmy, did it open.
Speaker 1: You can't be doing that at Priece. I don't have
Speaker 1: another tape on me, and and this one's almost done.
Speaker 1: I Jimmy, did it open. And there was a there
Speaker 1: was a camera, a camera on a tripod pointing through
Speaker 1: a cutout in the wall. But on the other side,
Speaker 1: it's not a cutout, it's a mirror. First started show
Speaker 1: I was making pornography, and I don't think the girls
Speaker 1: knew it. They didn't know they were being recorded at
Speaker 1: there's all kind of costumes and fancy, unmentionable. The layout
Speaker 1: of this room was different, like like a movie set.
Speaker 1: There's furniture that there was more equipment in there. It's
Speaker 1: not a bat it's it's like a like a like
Speaker 1: a bat handle with with a flat end. But but
Speaker 1: there were rubber tubes and syringes and photographs and naked
Speaker 1: women bounding gag. There's one with an audience people watch
Speaker 1: whatever was done to her. It's the privacy of his
Speaker 1: own home, Hank. We may not agree with it, but
Speaker 1: it's his whole. There was a projector and I watched
Speaker 1: I turned it on and there was a woman. I
Speaker 1: don't know who she was, but she wasn't conscious, and
Speaker 1: there were she wasn't conscious, she didn't know what they
Speaker 1: were doing. And on the wall there were instructions. What
Speaker 1: kind of instructions so that they can't escape, they can't
Speaker 1: escape out of time and they must have taken maneuver,
Speaker 1: and then they must have taken him into that room
Speaker 1: at the end of the hall. When the party ended,
Speaker 1: when the watches and the ones participating, when they left,
Speaker 1: that's when they took her into that room at the
Speaker 1: end of the hall. He took her into that room.
Speaker 1: Who Adler, That's that's his prescription pad. It his name's
Speaker 1: right there on the top. It's his room. He's the doctor.
Speaker 1: He took her into that room. Maybe with Shaw, I
Speaker 1: don't know, but but definitely Adler. What was in the
Speaker 1: room the door, the door like like going into a
Speaker 1: meat locker. The temperature is low. The first thing I
Speaker 1: noticed was how cold it was to to the to
Speaker 1: the bone and pitch black. It's an operating room. They
Speaker 1: set up a goddamn operating room. Goss bandages, turniquets, hypodermic syringes,
Speaker 1: surgical supplies, and there was pent to barbatall it sucker barbatall.
Speaker 1: These were the drugs that were in marline. These were
Speaker 1: the drugs that were in Marline at bottles of him.
Speaker 1: They went to kept her in there. They must have
Speaker 1: There's a bed, a metal bed, and there were restraints
Speaker 1: from a hospital warden on the other side of that room,
Speaker 1: there's a metal table with one of those those operating
Speaker 1: room lights. There's so many machines, machines, but two of
Speaker 1: them machines. What kind of machines had God, there's so
Speaker 1: much blood. What sheets and rags soaked in blood? It
Speaker 1: wasn't just Marlene Ed. They didn't stop at Marlene. D
Speaker 1: Adler's killing women in that house. He killed her in
Speaker 1: that house, and he drained her body of its blood
Speaker 1: on the table in that room. You can't. And I
Speaker 1: was there, calmed down. He drained her, and then he
Speaker 1: cleaned her, and then he cut her up in that please,
Speaker 1: Doddy Adler Harrison killed Marlene Marie Evans in that room.
Speaker 1: God damn it. And they bastard let her. Shaw helped
Speaker 1: him cover it all up. He covered it all up.
Speaker 1: If Hank was right, then how many potential victims are
Speaker 1: we talking about here? How many more women before and
Speaker 1: after Marlene? He was smart to turn to it. With
Speaker 1: Ed and the l a p. D. Involved. It would
Speaker 1: be much easier with their help. It would only be
Speaker 1: a matter of time before hand could close the case uptight,
Speaker 1: collect the rest of his money, and return to some
Speaker 1: semblance of a normal life, everything wrapped up in a
Speaker 1: nice little bow. But let's be honest, nothing is ever
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