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Speaker 1: A note to the listener. The following story contains some

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Speaker 1: adult content and language. Ice white ice like a winding sheet,

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Speaker 1: sheathing each smoke grind, wall Ice on the stove, pipe,

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Speaker 1: ice on the bed, ice gleaming overall, sparkling ice on

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Speaker 1: the dead man's chest, glittering ice in his hair, ice

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Speaker 1: on his fingers, ice at his heart, ice in his

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Speaker 1: glassy stare that. Hey, it's it's Oscar Simmonds. Hey, Oscar,

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Speaker 1: how are you good? Good? Do you have a few

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Speaker 1: minutes just to let you know I'm recording the conversation. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I have nothing to hide. How's the listening party going.

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Speaker 1: It's going well, certainly, no lack of material. Sorry, yeah,

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Speaker 1: don't be compy. Are you kidding me? It's totally worth it.

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Speaker 1: I can sleep when I'm dead. What's up? You said

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Speaker 1: you found a bunch of photographs and hanks, right, a lot. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: each case file had corresponding photos. Unfortunately not in the

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Speaker 1: angel box though. Oh no, no, that's okay. I didn't

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Speaker 1: think that there would be a question. This may sounds strange.

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Speaker 1: Were there uh any that were separated? I need it

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Speaker 1: stood out. Yeah, there's a separate envelope that has a

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Speaker 1: bunch of old photos. No one in them, though, and

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Speaker 1: a few of them are a little disturbing. They wouldn't

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Speaker 1: that's yeah, they're they're just interiors. How did you know that?

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Speaker 1: Just a hunch? I think it may need to come

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Speaker 1: take a look at them. If that's okay, why don't

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Speaker 1: I send them to you? Oh no, no, no, you

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Speaker 1: don't have to do that. No, it's it's really futifly

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Speaker 1: all the way up to Seattle for an envelope full

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Speaker 1: of snapshots. Okay, yeah, I can give you our corporate

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Speaker 1: account then you can. You can ship them overnight. That

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Speaker 1: way about be insured. No word about it now, but

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Speaker 1: I am fair enough. I'll email you all the info

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Speaker 1: as soon as beat off. Okay, I can't drive over

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Speaker 1: there later today and get them out to you. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: thank you? Um oh, please give my best to fill us.

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Speaker 1: Did my grandfather actually solve this thing? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know yet. I'm hoping those those pictures help

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Speaker 1: answer the question from Vox Popula and the Los Angeles Harold,

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Speaker 1: this is the Angel of Vine. My old hoard ain't

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Speaker 1: getting in no ground because my angels. As it turns out,

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Speaker 1: if you're in the Los Angeles area, you can take

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Speaker 1: a guided tour of Leonard Shaw's famed nine acre bell

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Speaker 1: Air estate. I know this because I recently went on

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Speaker 1: the tour. In his will, Shaw left his estate to

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Speaker 1: the Historical Society so that every inch of the house,

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Speaker 1: including the grounds, would be preserved exactly as he left them.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't something I would have done before we embarked

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Speaker 1: on this little journey together. By the way, not because

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Speaker 1: I don't find Hollywood history interesting. I do, um, but

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Speaker 1: because Leonard Shaw was never relevant to anything I've been

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Speaker 1: working on. And more candidly, why would I care to

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Speaker 1: see the surroundings of an uber, wealthy tyrant known for

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Speaker 1: decades of bullying and abuse? So then why did I go?

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Speaker 1: I went because the next tape through every idiom I

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Speaker 1: the rails, Things begin to unravel, and Hank flies off

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Speaker 1: the handle. Are you ready? Because once it derails, it

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Speaker 1: doesn't get back on track. Hank decided to break in

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Speaker 1: and go on his own private tour of Shaw's estate. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he broke in, And when I realized where he was.

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Speaker 1: I thought, what the hell is he doing? This guy

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Speaker 1: I understand that whole desperate times call for desperate measures impulse,

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Speaker 1: irrelevant because it was the option he chose. As I listened,

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Speaker 1: is enormous, And that's when I also found the tour info.

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Speaker 1: The day that I went, I brought the recording with

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Speaker 1: me to see if I could retrace hank steps and

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Speaker 1: get to the poolhouse. I will try to guide you

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Speaker 1: It creates a halfway point in what would be potentially

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Speaker 1: I don't know why I thought it would be that easy.

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Speaker 1: of Shaw's master suite. It's a stone patio that leads

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Speaker 1: and under a trellis to the rose garden. From the

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Speaker 1: garden you have two choices, left to the tennis courts plural,

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Speaker 1: The amount of space not to mention the grandiosity of luxury.

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Speaker 1: When I surveyed from the landing, I admit I admit

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Speaker 1: to thinking, what an incredible house to host a party,

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Speaker 1: if not for its host, that is, the pool is huge,

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Speaker 1: country club huge. The left side is lined with yellow

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Speaker 1: like a Frank Lloyd wrighte cold, imposing, cryptic, almost as

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Speaker 1: if it overlooks the house instead of the other way around.

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Speaker 1: This is the poolhouse. I wanted to peek inside so

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Speaker 1: much more so than anything else on the tour, and

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Speaker 1: is out in the open, which Hank seemed to forget momentarily. Jesus,

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Speaker 1: the heating go alone. I don't know if you wanted

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Speaker 1: don't know what he was thinking. From this point forward,

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Speaker 1: I was flying just as blind as your and I'm

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Speaker 1: I don't mh the hell? Yeah? No. Drip a long

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Speaker 1: it will become. Did they do to you? Yeah? How

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Speaker 1: many were there? Why were you in here. What did

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Speaker 1: they do to you? Jesus ship so bitch? Where the

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Speaker 1: hell at lights? Wouldn't gods what no, no, panto Barlaton,

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Speaker 1: lying sun, I'm gonna oh my god, oh god, I

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Speaker 1: the officer and I have a loaded weapon. Back away

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Speaker 1: to the door, Open away from the door and open up. Hey, hey,

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Speaker 1: it's the middle of goddamn knight. Open up. Aren't you

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Speaker 1: out of your mind? What are you doing? I was

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Speaker 1: ready to shoot your man. It's Hank, Dotty, It's just Hank.

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Speaker 1: Hank to death. Sorry, Doty, Sorry, I'm I'm you don't

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Speaker 1: look so good, Hank, Now, sit down before you fall down?

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Speaker 1: What's got you so bothered? Ah? Yes, part of the talk.

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Speaker 1: I get it. I don't want you to have to

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Speaker 1: How about I put on some coffee. You don't have

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Speaker 1: not going anywhere anytime soon. Look about you, Hank. I'll

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Speaker 1: Should I forget to stop? The tape doesn't make any sense?

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Speaker 1: You don't have to understand. What good is this to you?

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Speaker 1: I need to record it, so I will forget it. Hank.

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Speaker 1: I said, all right, yeah, well you tonight? Was it?

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Speaker 1: Leonard Shaw as a state and bell Air? Why were

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Speaker 1: La Harrison are responsible for the disappearance and murder of

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Speaker 1: Marley and Murray Evans. Ad La Harrison was already clear.

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Speaker 1: Can everyone just stop saying that already? For Christ's sakes?

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Speaker 1: I know it was clear. I know that. Then what

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Speaker 1: makes you think otherwise? The poolhouse? What poolhouse? What are

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Speaker 1: you talking about? I found what? What did you fine? Hank?

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Speaker 1: I don't know what they did in there? It looked

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Speaker 1: a you know that that the feather neck bows that

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Speaker 1: took out another I took another snapshot. How many pictures

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Speaker 1: Just so listen so there's a loan hole away leading

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Speaker 1: I've never seen this stuff before. I'm not following you, Hank.

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Speaker 1: There are hooks on the wall, and there were masks,

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