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Speaker 3: So just go show under the basket, Under the basket,

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Speaker 4: What's up the Genner Nation? Welcome to the Big Bets

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Speaker 4: on Campus Podcast presented by Bett MGM. This is the

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Speaker 4: College Basketball Conference Tournament Betting Preview, Part four. I'm stucky

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Speaker 4: in joining me for this episode of my fellow BBOC

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Speaker 4: cost Creg Wadell and Mike Calabresee. Today we will cover

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Speaker 4: two leagues, primarily in the Sokon and Big Sky. Then

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Speaker 4: we'll also touch on some of our thoughts on the

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Speaker 4: IVY League. Nothing set in stone yet, no odds out,

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Speaker 4: but we know the four teams. Jim and I will

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Speaker 4: also touch on that on one of the episodes. On

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Speaker 4: Sunday three, Man Weave put out an episode that should

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Speaker 4: already already be out, Part three. After this, I will

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Speaker 4: do a Part five with three more leagues, including Tanemograt's

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Speaker 4: beloved America East. So make sure you check those out

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Speaker 4: and all ten when they're all said and done by

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Speaker 4: next Monday. But let me bring in Mike co host Greg.

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Speaker 4: What's going on? Brother?

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Speaker 1: What's up?

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Speaker 2: Guys stuck? Are you still breathing?

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Speaker 3: I mean, the hardest working man in showbiz this week, right,

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Speaker 3: It's a pleasure just to watch and be a part

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Speaker 3: of this in a small form.

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Speaker 4: That was Yeah, I was Champagne Labor.

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Speaker 2: It was great. It was great. I was saying before

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Speaker 2: you got on a call.

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Speaker 3: I got to meet Zach Edie after the game, and

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Speaker 3: obviously that's a large human. I've never stood more on

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Speaker 3: my tiptoes than trying to take a picture with Zach Edy.

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Speaker 3: I think I got near his waist. He's massive. Purdue

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Speaker 3: champion stuff like, they were really impressive late Braden Smith

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Speaker 3: was awesome.

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Speaker 2: So had a fun time the.

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Speaker 4: Porton with bos on the tiptoes whenever you're near Zach Edi.

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Speaker 4: But Calvary's was going over.

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Speaker 1: I wish I had an Edie story to share. Kind

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Speaker 1: of saying that he's big is like saying I don't know,

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Speaker 1: Like the Eiffel Tower was pretty big. The arch in

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Speaker 1: Saint Louis lived up to the hype. Yeah, I'm just

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Speaker 1: enjoying the slow roll into March madness with some of

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Speaker 1: these opening games, like you saw the craziness of the

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Speaker 1: last like thirty six hours. I think that this is

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Speaker 1: just a precursor to a lot of higher seeds in

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Speaker 1: these smaller conference tournaments being vulnerable. So I'm excited to

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Speaker 1: just dig into the two main conferences we're going to

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Speaker 1: talk about today because I think there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: vulnerability at the top, and as we get further into

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Speaker 1: it as well. That always has an impact on March madness.

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Speaker 1: Like there's years that I'm really pulling for these major

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Speaker 1: top regular season champions to make it so that they

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Speaker 1: provide a better product in the sixty eighteen tournament. But

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Speaker 1: I'm no you know, I'm not sloush when it comes

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Speaker 1: So I think we're gonna taste so far and I

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Speaker 4: A Sun has been wild. That has been a blast

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Speaker 4: I know some others rooting for some of the other

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Speaker 4: longer shots. It's a lot of fun. Had some buzzer beaters.

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Speaker 4: Great start to March in the A Sun. I think

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Speaker 4: the tallest person I ever met was I was young man,

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Speaker 4: go to the SoCon. We'll start in the SoCon, which

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Speaker 4: will all take place in Asheville, North Carolina. All ten

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Speaker 4: But they shoot a ton of threes, they allow a

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Speaker 4: The Blangy brothers at Well Brown Jones. But Chattanooga is

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Speaker 4: about Watford? Same thing? Slow three point shooters give up

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Speaker 4: So Greg, I'll throw to you. Help me try to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you laid it out nicely because in

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Speaker 3: the side of the draw that is Greensboro and Chattanooga.

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Speaker 3: I don't feel super confident in either right now. I'm

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Speaker 3: think since February first, they have the three hundred and

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Speaker 2: Down the stretch.

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Speaker 3: So as far as like a matchup goes, if we

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Speaker 3: like Greensboro to emerge. But my issue is when think

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Speaker 2: Who's gonna beat Samford?

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Speaker 3: All the teams that I would like more if they

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Speaker 3: which I don't know if that makes me more or less.

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Speaker 2: Confident in Samford. I agree with you. The values not

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Speaker 3: Plus one point fifty, but they are heading shoulders above

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Speaker 3: this league. To me, they're just such a stylistic contrast

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Speaker 3: with everybody outside of Furman and I guess VMI, who

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Speaker 3: also plays very fast. But they have four wins on

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Speaker 3: hard prep to face Samford and they've earned their record.

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Speaker 2: That's been that good. The metrics love them. I agree

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Speaker 3: As far as a deep sleeper goes, it would be

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Speaker 3: Mercer for me. They're playing great right now, four and

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Speaker 3: not the easiest one to eight I've ever seen. For

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Speaker 3: Sanford and at sixty to one, I mean that's where

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Speaker 3: the value would be on the board. But I'm not

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Speaker 3: gonna sit here and say I expect Samford to lose.

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Speaker 2: This is their tournament to win.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the reason that Mercer beat them and

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Speaker 4: then gave them, you know, kind of a game. And

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Speaker 4: the other one. Mercer's really small, but they're good on

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Speaker 4: have a good perimeter date. So those are you know,

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Speaker 4: three important things that you need to do against Stamford.

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Speaker 4: Western Carolina. We just have to mention Vontarius Woolbright wouldn't

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Speaker 4: be a SoCon preview without him. What's yeah, up to

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Speaker 4: five triple doubles this year. I believe he's averaging twenty one.

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Speaker 4: he's top thirty and assists too. This guy is an

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Speaker 4: Unfortunately, are you throwing like an honorary flyer on him?

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Speaker 3: No, I think that's the smart spot to land. And

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Speaker 1: I have a few nice things to say about this conference.

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Speaker 1: when punching up playing against quality teams. So I think

430
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Speaker 1: you're getting a pretty good number on arguably the best

431
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 1: team at least in the last month in this conference.

432
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,879
Speaker 1: At three to one. I can talk deep sleeper, but

433
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 1: there wasn't a lot that I like. So I'll kick

434
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Speaker 1: it to you guys first before I share that one.

435
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 3: I love when I agree with Calbres, like that's he

436
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 3: nailed this for me. I think I would actually push

437
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 3: back on you stuck if Weaber wins this. I think

438
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 3: they can make noise in March exactly for the reason

439
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:27,160
Speaker 3: Calbreas just said, weilth in the country. An opponent adjust

440
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 3: I buy that they've been really good against good teams.

441
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 3: The Saint Mary's win was awesome. I also really liked

442
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 3: that Yale win. It went to overtime, but they merged

443
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 3: with a double digit victory. There they have the best

444
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,919
Speaker 3: player in the conference. To me, you compare them to

445
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 3: the two best metric teams in this league, Montana and

446
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 3: Eastern Washington. Weaver, as Mike said, has been the best

447
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 3: team since February first. They one hundred and fifty fifth

448
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,879
Speaker 3: in the country per Torvick in that span. Montana and

449
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,880
Speaker 3: Eastern Washington's defenses are both.

450
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 2: In the three hundred plus range in that span.

451
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:03,160
Speaker 3: Can't tell me we trust either of those teams defensively at.

452
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 2: All right now.

453
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,439
Speaker 3: So you take the team with the best player, Dylan Jones,

454
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 3: who truly it's not just that he's the best player

455
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 3: in his conference, he's one of the best players in

456
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 3: the country. Like he was just named on the Julius

457
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 3: Irving finalist list this week. That's very rare for a

458
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 3: player the Big Sky to receive that type of national recognition.

459
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 2: And he deserves it, twenty.

460
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,679
Speaker 3: Plus points in nine of his last ten twenty one

461
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,639
Speaker 3: to ten and five or his season long averages. Like,

462
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 3: to me, that is one of those teams that you

463
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 3: look for, like who's the fifteen seed that could do

464
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 3: some damage this year. You want to have a player

465
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,199
Speaker 3: you believe in like that. You want to have some

466
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 3: track record of getting up.

467
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,640
Speaker 2: For big games. I hope they view this tournament as

468
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:40,120
Speaker 2: big games.

469
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 3: Obviously they need to win it to get there, so

470
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,680
Speaker 3: I would think they do, and I think their their

471
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,439
Speaker 3: track record bodes well for something like this where you've got.

472
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 2: To win a couple games in a row.

473
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Speaker 3: I actually like them to blitz Montana State as far

474
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 3: as a matchup goes to in the first round. That

475
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 3: was their last game they just played. They blew it.

476
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 3: It was a twenty eight to eight run. In the

477
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 3: final ten minutes of that game. Montana, a State who

478
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 3: is not a great offensive team by any means, shot

479
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 3: thirteen for twenty seven from three. They just could not

480
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 3: miss in the final ten minutes of that game. Weber

481
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 3: was four for seventeen themselves. I imagine they're very excited

482
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,119
Speaker 3: to get their hands on them immediately. Again, that's a

483
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 3: team that I think they're significantly better than they beat

484
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 3: them by twenty two in December, so I'll be looking

485
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 3: to back them whatever that number opens up at. I

486
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,400
Speaker 3: think Weber runs them out of the gym, gets off

487
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 3: to a good start in this tournament, and then cruises.

488
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 2: Honestly, I expect them to win this league. Three to

489
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 2: one is great value to me.

490
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, my pushback on Weber would be, I mean, by

491
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 4: the way, if we look historically, like tell me a

492
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,640
Speaker 4: team in the past twenty years in the Big Sky

493
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 4: that's done anything, the Big Sky has to be one

494
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 4: of the biggest failures as far as tournament's success. Like,

495
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 4: what are we talking about. I'm trying to remember the

496
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:54,400
Speaker 4: last Big Sky. I mean, the Big Skys always they're

497
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:58,400
Speaker 4: always underperformed. They just don't have the physicality for the athleticism.

498
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 4: My problem with these teams that are so relying on one guy,

499
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 4: Like what's what's Dylan Jones' top five usage rate? Probably,

500
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 4: but it doesn't come out of the game. He's definitely

501
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 4: the best player. He's awesome to watch, But like you

502
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:15,439
Speaker 4: have now, you're going up against high major athleticism with

503
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 4: a week to prep and scout, you, right, like we

504
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 4: saw this with you know, kind of like Drew Pember

505
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 4: right with unc Asheville, Like UCLA had a week to

506
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 4: prepare and we saw dominant Drew Pember was in uh

507
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,640
Speaker 4: in his league, and then you get to the dance

508
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 4: and they lose by fifty and they just can't compete.

509
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 4: So like, I think that it would be pretty easy

510
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,120
Speaker 4: or not easy. I mean, Dylan Jones a really good player.

511
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 4: But this isn't no disrespect to Jones or Weaver State,

512
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 4: but a lot of times when you see these mid

513
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 4: majors that are so relying on one guy that once

514
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 4: they get to the tournament, it becomes tough. I think

515
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 4: that the recipe for an upset because you have to

516
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 4: have multiple guys, multiple shooters. You can't be too reliant

517
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 4: on someone because you're like, you're not used to going

518
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 4: up against high major athleticism and the entire scout is

519
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 4: going to be based on stopping you. Do you have

520
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 4: any you want to count of that at all? Right?

521
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 2: No, I hear you on being a little bit one dimensional.

522
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:21,640
Speaker 3: I did look it up just to make sure because

523
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 3: I could have sworn Weaver had some NCAA tournament win

524
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 3: that it was very early on in my life, they

525
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 3: did upset Michigan State. That would be why they beat

526
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,920
Speaker 3: my Spartans as a fourteen seed back in ninety five.

527
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 4: So wait, Howard Arsenal beat like North Carolina?

528
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 1: Right, Harold, Harold the Show. Arsenal? May he live on forever? Yes,

529
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: I agree with what you're saying stuff, but for different reasons.

530
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 1: I think it's like Jones could have a twenty and

531
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,880
Speaker 1: seven and five assist game and they can still lose

532
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 1: by forty because of this defense, Like even if he

533
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 1: plays well, like I think that's why the upset of

534
00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 1: Saint Mary's it's incredibly impressive, but it makes me it's

535
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: like a low possession game and they were able to,

536
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 1: you know, rely on Jones a little bit in I

537
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 1: think they won like sixty four or sixty two, something

538
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 1: like that. That's the kind of matchup they need. If

539
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 1: they get in a game with an up and down team,

540
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,239
Speaker 1: they're gonna get run off the floor because the more

541
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: possessions you put out there, with the you know, limitations

542
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: from an athletic perspective that they have. I agree with you.

543
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: I think it's the defense. I don't think it's going

544
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: to burn him in this tournament, but it would definitely

545
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: move me off picking them as an upset candidate.

546
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, the money Williams is interesting. I mean, he's advanced

547
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 4: metrics wise, is not being great, but he can fill

548
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 4: off the statue. My problem is, you just saw him

549
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 4: play what did you play five minutes?

550
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 1: He played five minutes? Yeah, So like is he even ready?

551
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: Are they going to shut him down? Like? We just

552
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: don't know? So he really is a wild card in

553
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: that regard.

554
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 4: All right, poor, I share my final thoughts. You did

555
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:53,479
Speaker 4: hint at a deep sleeper, and I don't know if

556
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 4: you're going to I hope you're not gone to the

557
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 4: seventh or ten seeds who have to win four games,

558
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 4: but you never know where where you headed. Calabaries curious.

559
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 1: I'm going to go the Vikings of Portland State. They're

560
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 1: seventeen to one. Their road is likely going to be

561
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 1: Montana and Northern Colorado to get to the title game.

562
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: Here's some good news. They crushed Montana at home earlier

563
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: this season, winning by twenty six. They also beat Northern

564
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 1: Colorado at home by ten, so I don't have to

565
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 1: use my imagination. I've seen them play well against these

566
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 1: exact teams.

567
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 2: And they have a star of their own.

568
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: They got Kjallen. He has three games with twenty four

569
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 1: plus and nine plus rebounds in his last five games.

570
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: And he gets the line a ton, which is something

571
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 1: that I like in terms of volume score. That kind

572
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 1: of gives him a very high floor in terms of

573
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: what he can give Portland State in this tournament run.

574
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: And they also force a ton of turnovers their decent

575
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 1: offensive rebounding team. That's a lot of extra scoring and

576
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 1: possessions for a team that's going to need it to

577
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: be able to put together two or three upsets to

578
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: win this tournament. So seventeen to one, there is a

579
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: couple teams like Northern Arizona, just couldn't talk myself into it.

580
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: As I mentioned at the top, some real dregs. I

581
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,479
Speaker 1: think Portland State, if everything goes right, they can get

582
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: to the title game. And then holding a seven to

583
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: one ticket, that seventeen to one ticket is just a

584
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: license to print money. So I'll go with the vikings here.

585
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 4: So this is one of the this happens sometimes when

586
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 4: I you know, this is kind of the blending when

587
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 4: you're handicapping, the blending of art and science, so to speak,

588
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 4: is the team that I show value on from a

589
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 4: numbers perspective is Montana, but I don't trust them, so

590
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 4: I'm not betting them, and I don't mind. I think

591
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 4: you guys have convinced me, so I think I'm going

592
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 4: to ride with you guys and we will make it

593
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 4: a consensus for I give any final thoughts that you

594
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 4: want to share on the big Sky.

595
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 2: I'm very happy whenever we get a consensus. Gentlemen.

596
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 3: We've been doing this all season long, and it just

597
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 3: warms my heart when those moments come up. The only

598
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 3: long shot I want to throw out which goes directly

599
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 3: against the team we all just set we're in on.

600
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 3: I know, I laughed it off. Montana State sixteen to one.

601
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 3: This is the best three point shooting team in this league.

602
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 3: If you go through this on the season, like, they

603
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 3: shoot the ball well from three, they shoot a lot

604
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 3: of threes, They defend the three point line well, they

605
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 3: limit three point attempts pretty well. I like three point

606
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 3: discrepancy teams in general when you're looking for teams that

607
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 3: could kind of arise out of nowhere. In March again,

608
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 3: they did just beat Weber. It was on their home

609
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 3: court and it was sort of an out of body

610
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 3: experience in the final ten minutes. But if they could

611
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 3: duplicate that, I think whoever wins that first game is

612
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 3: my pick to well, not win. I'm not going to

613
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 3: pick Montana State to win, but I will like their

614
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 3: path whoever wins that first game. But ignore that I

615
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 3: just said that. Let's lock in Weber and extreme it

616
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 3: feel extremely confident.

617
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 4: Yep, we're riding with the conference player of the year,

618
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 4: Dylan Jones. So wait that went? Did you find did

619
00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 4: you look into the last time A? Because Montana stick

620
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 4: got crossed? Right? I actually bet them.

621
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: Did Montana upset BC when they had Craig Smith's.

622
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 4: I thought they did. I bet them and they didn't.

623
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 4: They didn't even cover It was in like two thousand

624
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 4: and six. I always did that they won that game.

625
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was like a Mandela effect thing. I think.

626
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: I was in a bar and they had at first

627
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: half or something. I was like, yeah, they were leading

628
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: up the half. I think, yeah, there we go. That

629
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: makes sense, and I think a lot they melt it down.

630
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: They lost by like twelve or something. But when was

631
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: the last big Sky tournament win? Not like a plan.

632
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 3: Let's look, yeah, I'm looking it up right now too. Okay,

633
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 3: I have an article from twenty eighteen that says it

634
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 3: has been over a decade, So if that hasn't been

635
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 3: one since eighteen, and we're going way back.

636
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: Montana beat Nevada in the twelve to five game in

637
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: two thousand and six and then lost to Boston College

638
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: in the second round. Maybe that's what we were thinking

639
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: about stuck. So that was round of thirty two game.

640
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: There we go, all right, I think they.

641
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 4: Were catching eight and a half. I bet them like

642
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 4: they didn't cover, all right, So that was the last one,

643
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 4: so last Yeah, we're going on twenty. I guess they're

644
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 4: due maybe the do factor. You can always argue these

645
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 4: one way or the other. We're going on almost twenty

646
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 4: years with the Big Sky not having an NCAA tournament win. Now,

647
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 4: I just I've I've fallen for this trap so many times.

648
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 4: Is why I know is that I fall in love

649
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 4: with certain players and then they get you know, from

650
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 4: a mid major low major that dominate all year, and

651
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 4: then you step up in class and the entire scout

652
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 4: is to stop you. And then I'm just watching in

653
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 4: the horror as they have like four points and can't

654
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 4: get a shot off of getting doubled, and no one

655
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 4: else can step up, which is you know when we

656
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 4: talked about Samford earlier. You know, give you want, like

657
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 4: a unique style, and then Sanford just has shooters and

658
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 4: scores all over. They're not completely relyant on one person.

659
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 4: I think that's like the recipe for a team that

660
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 4: can win, you know, from a lower tier conference, that

661
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 4: can win a couple of games in the dances. You

662
00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 4: have to spread the wealth. You have to have multiple options.

663
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 4: But it would be fun to see what Dylan Jones

664
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 4: could at least do if he gets there. I mean,

665
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 4: who else? I don't want to see anyone else in

666
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 4: this league. Like at Eastern Washington's a great offense. They

667
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 4: run great offense, but they can't be the high major

668
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 4: team that just the talent the defense. The talent discrepancy

669
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Speaker 4: out of here, we will talk a little ivy Jim

688
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 4: Root nine. On one of our episodes of we'll record

689
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 4: on Sunday, we will touch on the ivy because we'll

690
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 4: know a little bit more. We'll have odds out or

691
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 4: at least I haven't seen odds because we don't even

692
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 4: know the order. We do know the teams. So Brown

693
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 4: has locked in the four seed, and they had a

694
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:51,760
Speaker 4: three to force overtime against Tarvard and then one and overtime,

695
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 4: and then that locked up the four seed for them,

696
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 4: which they clinched that the next day actually, and then

697
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 4: the top three seeds we've known for a while, Prince

698
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 4: Yale and Cornell, but we don't know the order yet

699
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 4: because this season is not over and it's just a

700
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 4: four team tournament that will take place at Columbia. I

701
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 4: don't know why. I don't know why these conferences do this,

702
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:17,919
Speaker 4: Like we just randomly, so the IVY randomly rotates this,

703
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 4: but like, so what if Columbia got the four seed

704
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,760
Speaker 4: they get the host? Makes no sense. I also don't understand,

705
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 4: Like why is high Point? I get it, they worked

706
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 4: out this year they're the one seed. Why is high

707
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 4: Point hosting their conference tournament? Like? What if high Point

708
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 4: gets was the five seed, they get to host all

709
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 4: the games? Hate it? Hate it? Hate it? Hate it?

710
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 4: Either do top you know, campus sites or a neutral site,

711
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 4: or if you want to have it at one location,

712
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 4: do it. I know that there's like logistics in all this,

713
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 4: but I feel it just feels unfair when a team

714
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 4: that's like not the one seed, it's like a five seed.

715
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 4: It gets to host all the games. Anyway, that's my

716
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 4: rant there, But this will take place in New York City.

717
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 4: Columbia won't be here, so it'll be on a neutral court. Calbaryes.

718
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 4: I know you've followed the IVY all year round for now.

719
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 4: Princeton excellent offenses to watch. Jail's a pretty good complete

720
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 4: team as well. These teams dominated the league all year.

721
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 4: Hard to see Brown winning two games here. Yeah, I

722
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 4: think it's three team race, which does which makes it

723
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 4: hard to talk about from an odds perspective, because whoever

724
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 4: gets that one seed, you get Brown first. That's a

725
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 4: major difference. So we won't go into uh, we won't

726
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 4: go too deep here because we don't know the odds.

727
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,919
Speaker 4: We don't know who gets that, you know, basically close

728
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 4: to a bye compared to what the two and three

729
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 4: will have to do. But we'll just talk a little

730
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 4: bit about, you know, which of these teams you might like,

731
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 4: don't like, or maybe even fancy to make a run

732
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 4: in the NCAA tournament. And this is the anti Big Sky.

733
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,919
Speaker 4: The Ivy's at a league that always just gets disrespected,

734
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 4: like Oh, they don't have the athleticism. And this is

735
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 4: you know, didn't see a team in the sweet sixteen

736
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 4: randomly every year. This is a league that's had much

737
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 4: more success over the past two decades than the Big Sky.

738
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 4: But Calbarty's what are you seeing in the Abbey, which

739
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:18,760
Speaker 4: I know you followed pretty closely.

740
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: So Ken Palm really likes Princeton and Yale. So Princeton's

741
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: sixty third in the country, thirtieth on the offensive ends.

742
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: They played a snails pace And I have plenty of

743
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: nice things to say, but I'll start with this. According

744
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 1: to shot quality, they're the sixth luckiest team in the

745
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: entire country. So does that come back to bite them

746
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: in this two game tournament run to try to you know,

747
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: punch a ticket. We'll see. But in terms of their

748
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: big three, this is the best in the league by far.

749
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: Lee Pierce Alaco as a trio of the average over

750
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 1: forty six a game, eighteen rebounds. They can all shoot

751
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: the ball really well from three point range. As a team,

752
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: they're twentieth and shooting efficiency overall. I love the fact

753
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: that they shoot better than eighty percent from the line

754
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: and never turn it over when you can combine those

755
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: two things, you get a lot of consistency and you

756
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 1: win a lot of games that are close, like they

757
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 1: just don't melt down. They're first in terms of turnovers

758
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: in terms of the entire country, So that's how good

759
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 1: they are protecting the basketball. But their schedule didn't really

760
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 1: show me much in the non conference. They got to

761
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: win right off the bat against Rutgers on neutral floor

762
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: and Trenton, but outside of that, they really weren't challenged.

763
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 1: And for that reason, I think there's potential for a

764
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 1: team like Yale or Cornell to steal this bid because

765
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 1: they're just they're a little bit different. So we'll start

766
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 1: with Yale for starters. Their defense is better than Princeton's.

767
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: They also play at a slow pace, but they're the

768
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 1: thirteenth most consistent team in America according to Haslometric. They're

769
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: plus eleven in the kill shot margin this season, which

770
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: is tops in the IVY League. And James Jones, in

771
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 1: my opinions, remains the best coach in the conference. He

772
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: led the Bulldogs to three NC DOUBLEA berths in the

773
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: previous eight seasons. It would have been four had it

774
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,479
Speaker 1: not been for COVID. They were the one seed that year.

775
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: In that IVY League tournament, you get the best big

776
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: in the IVY and mister double double Danny Wolf. And

777
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: my only concern is that how he goes so goes Yale.

778
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: In their big wins against Cornell and Princeton, he played

779
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: great and then he turns around on the rematch and

780
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: falls flat. I think he had zero points against Cornell

781
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 1: or Prince they can't remember which matchup it was. They're

782
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: both on the road. They lose both of those games,

783
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: so they absolutely need him. Just a little note if

784
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: they do make it to the tournament, if he gets

785
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,760
Speaker 1: into foul treble auto fade the Bulldogs. And then finally

786
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: Cornell one hundred and first and ken Palm. They're top

787
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: twenty five in tempo in the entire country, so they

788
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 1: are different than Princeton and Yale in terms of the

789
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: pace that they want to play at. For that reason,

790
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: they're up to sixty fifth and Ken Palm offense, they're

791
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: also a very consistent team, top twenty in terms of haslometric,

792
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 1: and then they play better against better teams. I've been

793
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,720
Speaker 1: beaten the strum Evan Maya has them twenty eighth nationally,

794
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,760
Speaker 1: so they punch up, and they do it really well.

795
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: This is the third straight year Brian Harrell has led

796
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: the Big Red to the four team IVY League tournament,

797
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,280
Speaker 1: so they're not going to be overwhelmed by the moment.

798
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: And then they're also the most accurate shooting team in

799
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,359
Speaker 1: America inside the arc. They make close to sixty three

800
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: percent of their shots from two point range. When they

801
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,879
Speaker 1: push the pace and they convince other teams to do so,

802
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: they force turnovers thirteen turnovers per game, which helps because

803
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: they're not a very good defense, just barely in the

804
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 1: top two hundred. So that's kind of my overview on

805
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: the three. I would say, depending on the number, I'm

806
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: leaning Yale. I like the coaching advantage, I like the

807
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 1: big advantage they have on a low block, and I

808
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: do think there's a little bit of an unknown factor

809
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 1: about Princeton because they weren't challenging the non conference. But

810
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 1: other than that, I think this is arguably the best

811
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: four team tournament that the Ivy's put on in years,

812
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 1: so I'm really excited to see it.

813
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Yale definitely has the best defense, and

814
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 4: who has the best offense is an interesting question. Princeton

815
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 4: top thirty adjusted offensive efficiency, Cornell top sixty five. You

816
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 4: mentioned they shoot a ton of threes, but their elite

817
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 4: for two. They take such good twos. They pushed the pace.

818
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 4: Want to play a different style, but Yale have the

819
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 4: best offense in league play, three really good offenses. Cornell,

820
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,439
Speaker 4: their style, just the way that they play makes them

821
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 4: a little funking. You mentioned they'd play up. I think

822
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 4: they split with both Yale and Princeton, and their losses

823
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 4: were I think by two a bucket apiece, so they

824
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 4: were right there. I can't make a case for Brown, Greg,

825
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 4: what are you seeing here in the IVY among the

826
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 4: top three unless you want to make a case for Brown.

827
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:18,280
Speaker 3: No, I'm not going to. This is really personal preference.

828
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 3: I think like I could see any of these three

829
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 3: teams winning this. Selfishly, it's not going to happen, but

830
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 3: I wish this could be a two bid IVY League

831
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 3: because I would love to see Yale and Princeton in

832
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 3: the NCAA Tournament. I think both teams are capable of

833
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 3: doing some damage. You mentioned it's stout. Yale has been

834
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 3: the best offense in conference play. They've also been the

835
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 3: best defense in conference play. Before January first, Princeton was

836
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 3: fifty fifth overall in the country per Torvic, Yale was

837
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 3: one hundred and second. Since January first, Yale fifty ninth

838
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 3: in the country, Princeton one hundred and first. So it's flipped.

839
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 3: Yale's been the better team since twenty twenty four began.

840
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 3: All three of these teams split with each other during

841
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 3: the season. I think whoever gets the one seed here

842
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 3: is going to catch a massive break just by a

843
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 3: process of elimination.

844
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:10,800
Speaker 2: But to me, I'm trying to focus.

845
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 3: In on Princeton and Yale because I think that's what

846
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 3: my heart wants is I want to see the two

847
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 3: teams I believe are a little bit ahead, if not

848
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 3: a sizeable amount ahead of Cornell. In my mind, I

849
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 3: want this to be the championship matchup. However, we need

850
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 3: to get there. I want to get there. Uh and

851
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 3: if we get there, I think I would pick Yale

852
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 3: to win that game head to head. If you go

853
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 3: through Yale and Princeton in their two games this season,

854
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 3: Yale's loss.

855
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 2: Did not include Matt Nolan. He wasn't active. He's back.

856
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,879
Speaker 3: He can really affect the game in a variety of ways.

857
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 3: He can score, He can pass. He's sort of the

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Speaker 3: quintessential glue guy type. Danny wolf In that game oh

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Speaker 3: for eight from the floor with zero points. You tell

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Speaker 3: me they didn't have noling Wolf was oh for eight.

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Speaker 3: That was just an eleven point game. Despite that, Wolfe's

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Speaker 3: a guy who can go for twenty any given time,

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Speaker 3: and you mentioned it at the start. I think Calbrees.

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Speaker 3: According to ken Pom, Princeton's ahead of Yale. A lot

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Speaker 3: of the other advanced analytics sites actually have it flipped.

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Speaker 2: Torvik has Yale nine.

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Speaker 3: Spots ahead of Princeton seventy fourth in the country to

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Speaker 3: eighty third. Evan Mia same thing as Yale at sixty

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Speaker 3: fourth in the country. So I think from a gut perspective,

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Speaker 3: we'd catch Yale at plus money if that's for the

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Speaker 3: championship against Princeton.

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Speaker 2: And uh.

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Speaker 3: The only thing that hangs over that makes me scared

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Speaker 3: at firing at that is XAVI and Lee is a

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00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,359
Speaker 3: bad man. He's an animal. He would be really fun

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Speaker 3: to watch in the NCAA Tournament's fun to watch every

877
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Speaker 3: single game. If you go in his player profile on

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Speaker 3: ken pom, you know it has like the similar players

879
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 3: based on all of the different ways they affect the game.

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00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 3: The number one most similar player to z ab and

881
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Speaker 3: Lee this season Damian Lillard in twenty ten.

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Speaker 1: It's a danger Weaver State. That's just good mojo for

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Speaker 1: our Weaver State play.

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Speaker 3: It all comes back to it, baby, But uh yeah,

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Speaker 3: personal preference. I won't get mad at you either way

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Speaker 3: here boys.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I'm rolling with yel two. And I think

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Speaker 4: that the the way that you'll get value is that

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Speaker 4: if Yale. Most likely what's gonna happen here is prince

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Speaker 4: is gonna be the one. Because if Princeton wins, they

891
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Speaker 4: they control their own destiny. And Princeton plays I believe,

892
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Speaker 4: don't they play Brown? Because Princeton plays Penn and Yale

893
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Speaker 4: plays Brown.

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Speaker 2: Yale has yes Brown.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So the most likely scenario is that Princeton and

896
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 4: Yale are both gonna win, and in that case, Princeton

897
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 4: is the tiebreaker based on net they're like thirty spots

898
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 4: ahead right now. Then that's what it would come down to.

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Speaker 4: So Princeton's gonna get the one, which is a big advantage.

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Speaker 4: But from a price perspective, I think we'll actually get

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Speaker 4: some value on Yale, and I would like Yale against

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Speaker 4: Princeton Yale. When they're gone up against Cornell, they don't

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Speaker 4: turn the ball over, so they're gonna score at will

904
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Speaker 4: against Cornell. They did lose to Cornell. One of the

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Speaker 4: things that does scare me just a little bit is

906
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Speaker 4: sometimes Yale has these like free throw walls that creep

907
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Speaker 4: up and against we want eleven of twenty six from

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Speaker 4: the line, so like, and then Cornell barely won. So like,

909
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Speaker 4: if that happens again, yeah, they're probably gonna lose, but

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Speaker 4: you'd hope that they shoot better than eleven for twenty

911
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Speaker 4: six in the line. But I do think that Yale

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Speaker 4: has the best defense, and I do agree with you Greg,

913
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Speaker 4: I think they're the best overall team at full strength

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Speaker 4: in the IVY. So in this scenario, and like I said,

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Speaker 4: Jim and I will talk about this more on Sunday

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Speaker 4: once we have the bracket the odds, But in this

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Speaker 4: area that's most likely to play out Yale two seed,

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Speaker 4: then they're gonna have They're gonna have the tougher road,

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Speaker 4: but I think that's where you would get the most

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Speaker 4: value back in Yale. We'll see where the numbers come out.

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Speaker 4: But if it was Yale versus Princeton A on a

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Speaker 4: coin flip, I would like Yale in the final. All right,

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Speaker 4: that'll do it for us. Thank you to Greg and

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Speaker 4: Mike for joining me as always, thanks to our producer

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