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Speaker 1: The John Nnick and Kenny Florian Podcast. John Annick and

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Speaker 1: Kenny Florian, I love him. I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 2: Let's hear that both from big job there for Duffian

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Speaker 2: prec beer nut.

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Speaker 3: I believe there are a couple of absolutely self involved

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Speaker 3: ble God, here.

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Speaker 1: Are your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian. That's all.

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Speaker 3: I'm all right.

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Speaker 2: Well, hopefully we can repurpose some of that content that

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Speaker 2: was just so riveting in our little pre show meeting.

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Speaker 2: They're great to have you with us. Sunday, January twenty nine,

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, Episode three eighty four of the Anak

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Speaker 2: and Florin Podcast presented by DraftKings. So I went to

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Speaker 2: the Boston Bruins game last night, made the mistake of

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Speaker 2: talking about the NHL's Boston Bruins on the Anak and

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Speaker 2: Floran Podcast. So if you don't know and we got

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Speaker 2: out of there, you know, Cody's given me shit off

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Speaker 2: the air for leaving eight minutes to go. I got

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Speaker 2: a four year old. You know, it's a six o'clock game.

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Speaker 2: We're doing the best weekend to get him in bed

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Speaker 2: by ten o'clock. Cody pro create, Cody go after it,

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Speaker 2: you know, go have children, see it's all about. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: Panthers four, Bruins three. The Panthers tied up with like

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Speaker 2: a second ago, we were long gone, and then they

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Speaker 2: go on to win it in overtime. And my wife

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Speaker 2: thinks I lost one hundred and fifty dollars. I lost

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Speaker 2: four hundred. I never bet on the Boston teams, right,

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Speaker 2: but I thought this was such a good spot for

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Speaker 2: the Bruins, right They've never lost, they hadn't lost two

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Speaker 2: in a row all year. Panthers in a back to back,

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Speaker 2: give it up goals like, it's just like open fucking season.

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Speaker 2: By the way, the Boston Bruins right now, little mattin

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Speaker 2: eate today, I believe early evening at the Carolina Hurricane.

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Speaker 2: So the Bruins in a back to back right now,

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Speaker 2: Ken Flow and his family nowhere to be found, not

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Speaker 2: supporting the local outfit in Charlotte tonight. Are you no

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Speaker 2: not going to matine with the kids?

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Speaker 3: That is that is correct? That is correct?

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Speaker 4: I mean I missed going to the Bruins games. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it would have loved it gone. It was great to

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Speaker 4: see you there, man, support the guys. Best team in

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Speaker 4: the NHL.

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Speaker 2: Right, they are you and me being in the southeastern pocket.

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Speaker 3: Kenny.

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Speaker 2: We can go see the Bruins now and it doesn't

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Speaker 2: cost a lot of money. When we grew up, that

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Speaker 2: cost a lot of money. And yes, I'm doing the

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Speaker 2: whole show basically in a Boston accent Todana Sunday. We're

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Speaker 2: going to be also doing a show this Wednesday which

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Speaker 2: will probably come out Thursday with Blau Muhammad and the

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Speaker 2: general safe syud head coach from fidis MMA. That episode

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Speaker 2: will not be in a Boston accent. That'll be more

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Speaker 2: like the broadcasting voice that you used to But today

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Speaker 2: we'll go on Boston accent. And so you're going back

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Speaker 2: and forth from Orlando, Florida for this PFL Challenger Series

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty three for the next eight weeks. Is that correct?

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Speaker 3: That is correct? So now the next seven weeks now yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: one doubt right.

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Speaker 2: He's counting everybody at home, right minus one is seven.

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Speaker 2: So I remember Bellatur season one And if you don't know,

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Speaker 2: I got the call from Bjorn Revne like three weeks out, Hey,

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Speaker 2: we need an English play by play man ten or

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Speaker 2: twelve consecutive weeks on the road, and I think more

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Speaker 2: for you and me. That's like living more the life

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Speaker 2: of an NFL broadcast, right, But these shows what you're

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Speaker 2: what exactly is going on?

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Speaker 4: Correct, Yeah, there's about four fights per night, you know,

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Speaker 4: He reminded me of John Jones back in the day.

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Speaker 4: Just still a bit raw, but it is so apparent

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Speaker 4: that he is loaded with potential, his physical ability, his

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Speaker 4: size at one hundred and seventy. Dude, he's six foot

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Speaker 4: two and just jacked everywhere and so physically capable, so fast,

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Speaker 4: Only has what five fights now five and zher and man,

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Speaker 4: he is he's going to be something.

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Speaker 2: So dude, four fights and you're in and out of there.

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Speaker 2: I mean that is crazy. No, I mean compared to

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Speaker 2: of for the UFC and for BattleBots, right, I can't

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Speaker 2: even imagine, right, Yeah, I mean you get high as

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Speaker 2: dos on mushrooms, whatever you have to do, just get

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Speaker 2: that really is I don't even know if I'd shower

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Speaker 2: conclusion of these four bouts, the four winners narrowed down

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Speaker 2: to Thad, Jean and Ken Lee, Saint Louis you can

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Speaker 2: call him Saint Louis. Nobody seems upset either way, but

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Speaker 2: celebrity panel Whiz Khalifa, Tyron Woodley, and number fifty two

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Speaker 2: in Your Program, Number one in your Heart Ray Lewis

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Speaker 2: unanimously voted for Thad Gene. Fan vote disagreed. They went

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Speaker 2: with Saint Louis. Tiebreaker goes to the legendary race Cepho

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Speaker 2: and he gives the PFL contract to Thad Gene. It

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Speaker 2: sounds like you agreed with Big Ray.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, look at this. See John Annick always doing

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Speaker 3: his homework yes.

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Speaker 4: Kenlly Saint Louis, who really was one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 3: We needed a guy he didn't make weight.

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Speaker 4: They asked Kendley, who was supposed to fight at one

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Speaker 4: He's still going to do that. He was like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: in at one seventy four. There was a catch weight

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Speaker 4: he beat Nick by submission man, so very very impressed

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Speaker 2: Wait, Kenley, Saint Louis is out of hooks at New Hampshire.

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Speaker 4: So the guy he beats her, the guy he beat

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Speaker 3: And he came over to me.

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Speaker 4: He's like, hey, I met you right after the bj

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Speaker 3: And he's like I saw you in Kurk Peller, Greenow.

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Speaker 4: was great to see Nick, and but ken Lee was

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Speaker 2: It's amazing how you and I more often than not

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Speaker 2: our producers from New Hampshire. He's absolutely right New Hampshire,

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Speaker 2: catching El's left and right. But we love a good

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Speaker 2: Nick Dally mentioned on the Anakanphorian podcast, So all right,

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Speaker 2: good stuff there, and yes, absolutely doing my research and

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Speaker 2: all of that is very big news, almost as big

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Speaker 2: as these UFC two eighty seven fight announcements. Now April eighth,

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Speaker 2: this pay per view is rumored to be taking place

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Speaker 2: in either Brooklyn, New York, or Miami, Florida. Oh come on,

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Speaker 2: can we get some Miami Florida? Can we get a

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Speaker 2: UFC pay per view in Miami, Florida? Can you imagine

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Speaker 2: a Miami backdrop?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 2: I've always heard Oh, when Lebron James was playing here,

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Speaker 2: you know you got to bring Anderson, so they got

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Speaker 2: to bring the right fight, right, So now you got

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Speaker 2: to bring Jorge mossfeed all and Colby Covington, Gilbert Erino, Burns,

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Speaker 2: bring the big guns, Santiago Ponds and Ebio can sell

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Speaker 2: some tickets. Let's bring this thing. Welcome to Miami, I mean,

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Speaker 2: don't make me sing.

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Speaker 3: Please?

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Speaker 2: Can we get yeah? Can we get this pay per

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Speaker 2: view to Miami?

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Speaker 5: All right?

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Speaker 2: We don't have a location, dateline TBD, but UFC two

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Speaker 2: to eighty seven Ken Flow is going to be the

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Speaker 2: rematch immediate between Alex Padata and Israel Atasanya. You can

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Speaker 2: call it the second meeting or the fourth whatever it is.

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Speaker 2: It happens about five months after Padeda took the belt

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Speaker 2: in November at Madison Square Garden. And here's Alex Padata

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Speaker 2: seven and one in MMA defending his belt against Israel

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Speaker 2: out of Sonya, who continues to just be an absolute workhorse.

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Speaker 2: Here thought on the big announcement that this rematch is happening,

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Speaker 3: If this is the right move.

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Speaker 4: I think that that first fight, of course, the first

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Speaker 4: was absolutely phenomenal. It was extremely intriguing, exciting back and

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Speaker 4: It was a perfect first fight. Now I think the

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Speaker 4: rematch is very much warranted. I think Israelisanya, with the

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Speaker 4: and it was the right call.

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Speaker 2: Some people suggested that Atasanya would be wise to let

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Speaker 2: He hasn't been touched in a lot of his fights.

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Speaker 2: But a lot of people suggested, especially when Robert Whitaker's

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Speaker 2: then have that rematch. But obviously there's some risk there,

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Speaker 2: some decision making involved. Your thoughts on Atasanya's decision in

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Speaker 4: And I think that's what it's all about. Atasanya does

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Speaker 4: want to right that wrong. I don't think he's motivated

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Speaker 4: about it. He's got the money, he's got everything else.

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Speaker 4: It's not about just keeping the belt. He wants the challenge,

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Speaker 4: and I think Padata is that big challenge and he

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Speaker 4: he's still confident that he can do that. He's motivated

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Speaker 4: by that. And I think that if you allowed Pereira

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Speaker 4: perhaps Whitaker gets that win and he never gets another

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Speaker 4: shot against Patta. Marsh Arts is insane like that. You

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Speaker 4: never know, So when these opportunities come up, you take them.

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Speaker 4: And I think Autasania is absolutely capable of doing it.

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Speaker 4: And I think that if he's able to do this,

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Speaker 2: a take that'll be a little bit unpopular, you know,

433
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Speaker 2: to anyone making a living in the mixed martial arts space,

434
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Speaker 2: I would think I would owe some debt of gratitude

435
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Speaker 2: to Connor McGregor.

436
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Speaker 5: Right.

437
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Speaker 2: I'm not saying one percent of my success goes to

438
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Speaker 2: that guy, right, But you know, the sports growth obviously

439
00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 2: is a big part of all of our collective lives

440
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,919
Speaker 2: and livelihood and everything else. So I'm glad the man's okay,

441
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,439
Speaker 2: And you know, MMA is better with him in it.

442
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Speaker 2: And I do think we talk so much about attasni

443
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,800
Speaker 2: and the competitive desire, and that's what's going to bring

444
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Speaker 2: Connor back. And I just hope it sooner rather than later.

445
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,200
Speaker 2: Frank Meer's daughter, Bella Meir, if you don't know, decorated

446
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 2: high school wrestler in the state of Nevada, now wrestling

447
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Speaker 2: at the University of Iowa, and she becomes the first

448
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Speaker 2: athlete collegiate athlete to get an NIL deal from the

449
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Speaker 2: u FC. This is huge news. So NIL is an

450
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:09,640
Speaker 2: acronym for name, image, likeness, and basically Bellamir now has

451
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Speaker 2: a deal and she will be a UFC ambassador of sorts,

452
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Speaker 2: and this is very exciting news. Obviously, if you listen

453
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Speaker 2: to our show Open Right, we have a Frank Mere

454
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Speaker 2: call in it. And Frankmuir was one of the guys

455
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Speaker 2: who alongside can Flow Audition when they were testing out

456
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Speaker 2: broadcast partners for me back in twenty eleven. He was

457
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Speaker 2: on MMA Live with us. We go way back with

458
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Speaker 2: Frank Meir. This is very exciting stuff and I hope

459
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Speaker 2: this family just makes millions and millions of dollars in

460
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Speaker 2: Bella has an amazing career. You know she's going to

461
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Speaker 2: end up in the UFC. But just very excited for

462
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Speaker 2: the Mere family and for Bella obviously got anything for

463
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Speaker 2: us as a as a girl, dad yourself.

464
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Speaker 3: Pretty cool. Frank's the man dude.

465
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Speaker 4: Actually, we had a chance to talk to him and Bella,

466
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Speaker 4: you know, at one of the PFL events last year,

467
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Speaker 4: and it's great to see him doing well. I imagine,

468
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Speaker 4: you know, not only you have to deal with, you know,

469
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Speaker 4: Frank Mehir being her dad and passing on all of

470
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Speaker 4: his wisdom and technique. And then you know, she knows

471
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Speaker 4: how to strike, She's got striking coaches at a high level.

472
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Speaker 4: She's wrestling at Iowa for Pete's sake. It's like, what

473
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Speaker 4: are you going to do? These are the kind of

474
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Speaker 4: athletes that are coming up now, you know, like legendary fighters,

475
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Speaker 4: kids that now decide they want to fight and they

476
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Speaker 4: have this whole dream team around them.

477
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

478
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't imagine, you know, the potential and destruction

479
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Speaker 4: that she's going to bring into you know, potentially the

480
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Speaker 4: octagon in the future. So that's awesome to hear and

481
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Speaker 4: excited to see her fight.

482
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Speaker 3: At a higher level.

483
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Speaker 2: Bellamir is not publicly traded on the stock exchange, right,

484
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Speaker 2: but if you were to want to invest in that athlete, right,

485
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Speaker 2: this is how you do it. If you're the UFC

486
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Speaker 2: and don't get any idea she's not going to compete

487
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Speaker 2: for the PFL. It's going to be be a UFC fighter.

488
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Speaker 2: Come on, over, come on, over all, right, as long

489
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Speaker 2: as long goes on time here in a couple of minutes,

490
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 2: we're going to get to him. I want to share

491
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Speaker 2: some quotes from Alexander Bolkanowski on the Freestyle Bendor YouTube channel,

492
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Speaker 2: just about his preparation and how he's feeling right now physically.

493
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 2: But we have to get to the tweet of the year.

494
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Speaker 2: It comes from UFC lightweight contender Armand Sarukian. I can't

495
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Speaker 2: even say it without laughing. I sent it to Kent

496
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Speaker 2: Vote Advance. I would imagine Cody has ingested this since, wondering,

497
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 2: having his curiosity so peaked as to what this says.

498
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 2: So here's the tweet from Saukyan, who inevitably is picking

499
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Speaker 2: a fight pursuing a fight with Michael Chandler. Hey, Mike Chandler,

500
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Speaker 2: it's time to defend your rankings lowest fight IQ in

501
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Speaker 2: the division against the new MMA generation. I won't see

502
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 2: you at the top. So he calls out his fight

503
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 2: IQ as the lowest in the division, which is not

504
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,479
Speaker 2: anything that any fighter wants to hear. I mean, Chandler

505
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,479
Speaker 2: understands what he's doing in terms of his bank account

506
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 2: and his style, right, and it is what it is.

507
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 2: But any fighter would take issue with that. I'm sure

508
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 2: he's had in form conversations with Henry Hoofed about decision

509
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 2: making in the octagon. But then to take his see

510
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 2: you at the top line and spin it around and

511
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 2: stay I won't see you at the top. Pretty good

512
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 2: stuff from Arman Sawerkian and probably a good time to

513
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,439
Speaker 2: bring in Ray Longo, however, disheveled on a Sunday morning

514
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 2: answering the bell though at eleven thirty two am.

515
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Speaker 5: The count of nine.

516
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Speaker 3: But I look at that shirt.

517
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 4: Look at that shirt? Hey, is Cody okay? Is Cody

518
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 4: crying in the background? Is is he gonna make it?

519
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 4: After that?

520
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Speaker 2: After the read of that quote from Chandler, Yeah, Cody's

521
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 2: a big Michael Chandler guy. He's probably upset. Did you

522
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Speaker 2: hear that tweet from Amon?

523
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Speaker 6: I was just listen, funny for a for a guy

524
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Speaker 6: that you didn't think had. You know, he doesn't really well,

525
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,400
Speaker 6: he speaks well, but I'm saying you know that that's

526
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Speaker 6: that was That was pretty good.

527
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Speaker 5: Yet it.

528
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Speaker 2: So I like the Antikmplorian podcast t shirt. I like

529
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Speaker 2: the red that's a good color on him.

530
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Speaker 5: Play.

531
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Speaker 2: So what did you think of the UFC fights last eleven?

532
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 2: Cody said, you were really bummed out when you learned

533
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 2: that you.

534
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 5: Stay I'm in right now.

535
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 6: You probably I probably would have started talking about some

536
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 6: fights from like a month ago.

537
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 5: I thought it was last night.

538
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 2: So what time did you go to bed?

539
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 5: Oh, last night was late, probably about three.

540
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,159
Speaker 2: So what time did you wake up?

541
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 5: Well, we'll go five minutes ago.

542
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,400
Speaker 2: Right, So why we got to figure this out?

543
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 3: Right?

544
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 2: Because if we say, hey, can you join a Sunday

545
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Speaker 2: at eleven.

546
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 5: Thirty, I don't want to sleep, but I have to do.

547
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Speaker 2: This all right, So this actually helped. This is far

548
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 2: because it is well within your rights. And I know

549
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 2: you sort of shuck me off when I say star.

550
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 1: Of the show.

551
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 2: Okay, Right, public approval rating is a thing. Right, You

552
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,120
Speaker 2: actually have minute men that don't sometimes like the way

553
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 2: I treat you on the show. So if you need

554
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 2: to do the show at like noon, right, world chraveler,

555
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 2: Kenny Florian will pivot and adjust.

556
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 1: We're not trying to get you out of bed.

557
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Speaker 5: No, no, no, I got I'm running to the gym

558
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 5: after this. It's all good, all right, run the whole

559
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 5: all the way there. I'm gonna I'm gonna look the

560
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,199
Speaker 5: whole way there. Hey guy, it's just a couple of

561
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 5: one thing I heard when when were you guys talking

562
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 5: about Hackleman in the Corner? Was that? Uh? The show?

563
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 5: I was.

564
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 2: I So we're doing a couple episodes a week, as

565
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,120
Speaker 2: you know, so it was at some point last week.

566
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Speaker 2: But anything you have on.

567
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Speaker 6: That place, I think there's a lot. I mean, as

568
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 6: a corner guy, look, it's it could either be a

569
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 6: black and white issue or it could be a lot

570
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 6: of things. And I'm really.

571
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Speaker 5: All a fighter safety, so I'm not even this isn't

572
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,439
Speaker 5: even opinion, but I think for that corner, and I

573
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,360
Speaker 5: love Hackleman. I think he's a great guy.

574
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Speaker 6: Obviously he's an older guy, which I think plays into

575
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Speaker 6: part of you know, as we get older, we're revolving

576
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 6: and we're trying to learn. And you know, I'm not

577
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 6: the guy who wasn't twenty five. I wouldn't care you

578
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 6: got hit by a bus in the octagon Like.

579
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Speaker 5: It's just it's different.

580
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Speaker 6: As you get older, your perspective one hundred percent changes

581
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Speaker 6: on a lot of things, not just on that, but

582
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Speaker 6: unless you're just incapable of growth and you're going to

583
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 6: stay in the same spot. But you know what, I remember,

584
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Speaker 6: I think those guys were in his corner. They were

585
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Speaker 6: training them. Hacklerman, I'm assuming was out in California, came

586
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Speaker 6: in just a corner room. I don't know about that,

587
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,199
Speaker 6: but these are the guys that were with him.

588
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Speaker 7: Uh.

589
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Speaker 5: So, I think they know him at this point in

590
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 5: time better.

591
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Speaker 6: Obviously Hackerman had him years ago, and he's got a

592
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 6: different relationship with him because like again, he he knows

593
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Speaker 6: him forever, right, if I'm not mistaken, you.

594
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 2: Know so, I think they cornered against him way back

595
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 2: in the day, was having So.

596
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Speaker 6: I think there's there's a lot right and I think,

597
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 6: uh those guys were with him. They just came out

598
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 6: of a fight with Alex where he was losing and

599
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 6: they implored him on and they gave him a great

600
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Speaker 6: pep talk and he came out and won the fight.

601
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Speaker 5: So they got that. They're hoping that happens again now.

602
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 5: And I'm not saying that should be a part of it,

603
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 5: because if you want to just go safety and nothing else.

604
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 5: Stop the fight, you know, stop the fight.

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Speaker 6: I mean, look, I had a doctor I used to train,

606
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Speaker 6: probably like fifteen years ago. You know, we used to

607
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 6: always like light spat, not even crazy sport, but I

608
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 6: always thought sparing was great for your reflexes and to

609
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Speaker 6: what you had to think under pressure while the guy's

610
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 6: trying to hit you.

611
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Speaker 5: It could be a great thing. You don't want to

612
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 5: get your brains beat in. But and I would never

613
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Speaker 5: do that to a doctor. But he didn't even want

614
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Speaker 5: to get tapped in the head. He definitely not like

615
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Speaker 5: he was. It's just no good. And we were to

616
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Speaker 5: the point where we would joke, but we were friends,

617
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 5: so it wasn't like we were, you know, bullying them.

618
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 5: But uh, that was it that it was that simple.

619
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Speaker 5: I'm not getting hit in the head.

620
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Speaker 6: I mean, we're in a sport right where but now

621
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Speaker 6: we're starting to go all right, we have a lot

622
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 6: of damage, right but any punch in the head, there's

623
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Speaker 6: going to be people that it's just not good.

624
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 5: You know, we're in a sport where it's just not good.

625
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 5: So if everybody has the proper schooling on what could

626
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 5: happen to you, this is where we are in this

627
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 5: country with a bungee jumping anything. Look, you could die,

628
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 5: you could to do this. You make the decision, because

629
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 5: I think the easiest thing to do is the Athletic

630
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 5: Commission is there to protect your Suppose we're here right,

631
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 5: we want to level playing field. Let the Athletic Commission

632
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 5: jump in, say it fights over. This is my state.

633
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 5: I govern it.

634
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Speaker 6: I don't like it fights over. I think it will

635
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 6: cause chaos. But I would like to be get that simple,

636
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 6: because it's not that easy. And you gotta remember hackling.

637
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 6: I think Dana used to bust hackle John's balls about

638
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 6: letting Chuck fight a couple of more fights. This is

639
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Speaker 6: and I think, and I think John has grown probably

640
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 6: from that. He's got the experience now to say I

641
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 6: don't like it. You know, even he said like he

642
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 6: wishes guys would have stopped his fights years ago, a

643
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 6: couple of fights. Would he have said that a week

644
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Speaker 6: after his fighter, two weeks after, I say, he wouldn't

645
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Speaker 6: have said that. But now, as you get older and

646
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,719
Speaker 6: you start limping going up the stairs, or you know,

647
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 6: you get a little dizzy doing, you start having a

648
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 6: different perspective. So somebody has to get in. You have

649
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 6: to talk to your fighters. Everybody's got to be on

650
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Speaker 6: the same page. I one hundred percent had a fight

651
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 6: at one time. Tell me if I'm in any trouble,

652
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 6: just stop, stop the fight, right, good?

653
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, But some of what Hackelman has is wisdom and

654
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 2: evolution of thought, right, and a fearlessness.

655
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 3: Right.

656
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 2: Like there are times where maybe I editorialize on a

657
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 2: UFC broadcast, like maybe I did a couple of weeks

658
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 2: ago with Lauren Murphy saying, you know, what are we

659
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 2: chasing here? A moral victory or whatever I said, where

660
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have said that maybe when I'm thirty three

661
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 2: years old, And maybe I shouldn't say that at forty

662
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 2: five years old. Heaven forbid you give me a microphone

663
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 2: when I'm fucking sixty and see not of things that

664
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 2: out of my mouth.

665
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 5: Like what you get on the podcast medam.

666
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, but more right. Well, but you know, like I

667
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 2: guess for me, Kenny, right, I would look for the

668
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 2: corner after that fourth round, you know, Hackelman says he

669
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 2: would have been fine stopping it after the third maybe

670
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 2: the corner to say, hey, man, like you take one

671
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 2: more shot on that cut, like I'm gonna throw in

672
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 2: the fucking towel and see what Glover's response is there.

673
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 2: But I guess my biggest hate in all of this

674
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 2: is that to share a mounted jamal hill. So somehow

675
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 2: like everybody wins, right, It's like referee, Like if I

676
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 2: was a referee, you know, when in doubt, I would

677
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 2: probably just let the thing fucking continue because then I

678
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 2: would be your universally praised right, like it takes a referee.

679
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 2: Mark Goddard's the gold standard, right, but you know, I

680
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 2: don't know, like he to me handled out of Sonia

681
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 2: Pad a lot differently than he handed to share a hill, right.

682
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 5: So look, it's it's a it's a tough thing, and

683
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 5: I think we are getting better at it. I think

684
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 5: we're and I think because we're talking, we're having a

685
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 5: discussion like this, it helps everybody because you know, you

686
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 5: start to go, yeah, maybe I should have did that,

687
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 5: Yeah that makes sense. I don't want to see anybody

688
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 5: get hurt. It's it's almost like, uh, it's like today

689
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 5: with like the cancel culture. Like I come from I

690
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 5: come from an environment where the words that you'll get

691
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 5: canceled for today were thrown around like the way we're

692
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 5: talking right now. Like I said that, you got to

693
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 5: give me like a couple of years. I gotta adjust.

694
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 5: You can't expect me to just stop on a dime.

695
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 5: And you know, just you know, adjust to what's going

696
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 5: on right now. This has been going on for fucking

697
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 5: forty years. Give me a little time. I'll leads into it.

698
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 5: It makes sense to me.

699
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 6: I I don't want to hurt anybody's feelings, and I

700
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 6: don't think when I do any of that stuff, I

701
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 6: do hurt anybody's feelings. But now, you know, because of

702
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 6: the way the culture is leaning, that's what we have

703
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 6: to do.

704
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 5: You know. I don't know if that makes sense or not,

705
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 5: but yeah.

706
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 3: It's funny.

707
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, but like you know, people act like that alone

708
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 4: is going to solve you know, whatever issue it is.

709
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, if you do this, it's going to

710
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 4: solve racism, you know, and that's that's what's gonna do it.

711
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 3: Anyways, you know.

712
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, Ray, I think I think as you go back, right,

713
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 4: and I think about a lot of things, you know,

714
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 4: my back injury and all this stuff. Like I I

715
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 4: would I would kill to be able to train five

716
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 4: six days a week.

717
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 3: I can't anymore my back won't allow it.

718
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 4: That is years of jiujit, few years of fighting, years

719
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 4: of you know, like when I retired, the doctors told

720
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 4: me I would never train jiu jitsu again. I should

721
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 4: never train jiu jitsu again. All this stuff and and

722
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 4: my back still gets hurt and stuff like that. But

723
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 4: you know, I think about certain things like that, like

724
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 4: how much you know, what's it worth? And was my

725
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 4: body gonna be like in five years am I going

726
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 4: to be curled up in a ball, like not not

727
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 4: be able to walk around?

728
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 3: I don't know.

729
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 4: There's certain days where you know, like over over the

730
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 4: Christmas break I was I was tied to a bed

731
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 4: for two weeks. I could barely walk around. I went

732
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 4: to pick up a dog leash. That's what did it.

733
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 4: So again, these these are things that you know, we

734
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 4: don't we don't understand, and maybe we shouldn't understand that

735
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 4: when we're younger, because you don't want to have that

736
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 4: fear in your head. So we have this thing of

737
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 4: like you could get injured, uh you know, uh that

738
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,479
Speaker 4: could be you know, unable to be solved later where

739
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 4: you are permanently going to have that issue either your

740
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 4: brain or your body, but to fight with that in

741
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 4: the back of had you almost can't. But at the

742
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 4: same time, you have to be aware that certain decisions

743
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 4: you make will have an impact. We'll have repercussions on

744
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 4: your body and brain later on in life. So it's

745
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 4: it's a tough one.

746
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 5: Really, it really is a tough one.

747
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 6: But I get I think, you know, there's going to

748
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 6: be a certain school that thought all you could do

749
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 6: is educate people on what the pros and cons are

750
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 6: and then they have to make the decision. And you know,

751
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 6: like again, I think the Athletic Commission is there to

752
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 6: really they they have to be the gold standard because

753
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 6: they're the ones that, look, they don't want you on pds.

754
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 6: They already have a list of things you can't do

755
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 6: to make the fight.

756
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 5: Even now, you might have to take fighter safety and

757
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 5: to you know, take a step in that direction.

758
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 6: I don't know, it's it's not easy. It could be

759
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 6: easy for the corners because any sign of danger just

760
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 6: out look at and if you have that discussion with

761
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 6: your fight is like, I'm not gonna watch you get hurt,

762
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 6: you know, Like I told you, I used to I

763
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 6: used to ref we used to do a local fight

764
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 6: apartment Kenny that we'd have the Fight apartment fight each

765
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 6: other for charity. They loved it, and I would I

766
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 6: would referee it, you know.

767
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 5: But I would tell these guys and it was for

768
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,720
Speaker 5: the American Cancer Society and my mother had breast cancer.

769
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 6: To me, it was like a big deal. We'd raise

770
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 6: a bunch of money and it was just a great feeling,

771
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 6: you know.

772
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 5: And this is probably in the early two thousands somewhere.

773
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 5: But I would tell these guys, look, these are these

774
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 5: aren't fighters. I would say, look, any sign that you

775
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 5: guys are in trouble, I don't give a shit. I'm

776
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 5: stopping to fight. Like. I would let them know right

777
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,439
Speaker 5: up front that and don't and I and don't even

778
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 5: think about getting pissed off or anything. It's not not happening.

779
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 5: It was in my gym. I used to do it,

780
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 5: and that's the way it was. I would tell them

781
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 5: up front, and we never had a problem, and I

782
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 5: would let it go. But I would any little wobbling,

783
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 5: the fight's over, you know. So it was safe for sure.

784
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 2: And when ray Long tells you ain't going to be

785
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 2: pissed off after the fact, you no, that was just

786
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 2: put your fucking done a couple of.

787
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 5: Funny stories, because of course, a couple of guys to

788
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 5: get pissed off.

789
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So I'm gonna get a little bit

790
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 2: serious Anya, then I'm gonna talk a little bit about

791
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:12,240
Speaker 2: Alexander Volkanovski. But so, Aljiae main Sterling was not approved

792
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,240
Speaker 2: to fight at Madison Square Garden back in two thousand

793
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:19,720
Speaker 2: nineteen by the New York State Athletic Commission. I believe

794
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 2: he said on the Joe Rogan Experience that there was

795
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 2: a small brain issue. He has never fought in New

796
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,240
Speaker 2: York State as a pro. And even though we don't

797
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,439
Speaker 2: know where this April eighth UFC two to eighty seven

798
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 2: live event is happening Brooklyn, Miami, right, there were rumblings

799
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 2: that it was going to be al Joe, right, and

800
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 2: so it has Cody and me wondering aloud. Cody used

801
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 2: to produce al Jo's podcast, The Weekly Scraps, Right, like, wait,

802
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 2: al Joe can't fight in New York, right, And it

803
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 2: seems like sometimes when he's rumored to be fighting in

804
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 2: New York, we wonder if that has changed. But as

805
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 2: far as we interpret things, he's fought a bunch of

806
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 2: New Jersey. He's never fought in New York because they're

807
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 2: the one commissioned that that you know, can't seem to

808
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 2: get over something on this skin.

809
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 6: Right, that everything he said is true. They did say

810
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 6: they were going to I think they said they were

811
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 6: going to fix it in twenty nineteen. I think we

812
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 6: knew about that before that. But I you know, I

813
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 6: know when we had doctor Sherry, she took him to

814
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 6: some of the top neurologists. Everybody cleared him there was

815
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 6: something on his brain. I'm not educated enough to even

816
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 6: comment on it, but there was something. And New York

817
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 6: I think because they just went through I think they

818
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 6: had a huge lawsuit with the Marga reda thing or

819
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 6: one of those fights where they got sued for like

820
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 6: three hundred million something that I think they took a

821
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 6: very conservative stance on, you know, safety and stuff like

822
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 6: that because of what happened. But it's it's nothing that

823
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 6: none of the top guys have not they've all signed

824
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 6: off on it. So New York again, I don't know

825
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 6: what that's about, but you know, look that that is

826
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 6: one hundred percent, in my opinion, just a red tape issue.

827
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 5: And they did say they were going to correct it

828
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 5: and they would let him fight. So unless they change that,

829
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:06,280
Speaker 5: which I never heard of, he's not fighting in New York, Kenny.

830
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 2: I was pleasantly surprised when they had like an algamine

831
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,760
Speaker 2: Sterling day and they trot out al Jo and fucking

832
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 2: long ago right like the people showed out. So I

833
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 2: think al Joe can sell tickets in New York, I

834
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 2: really do. Yeah, if that parade on the indication.

835
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 4: I don't know why they didn't let him fight. I

836
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 4: mean I had a small brain issue as well. You

837
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 4: know it's a small brain.

838
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 2: They still let me fight, so I don't understand what

839
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 2: the issue is.

840
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 3: Now.

841
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 4: That would be awesome, and I'm sure al Jo would

842
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 4: just love to fight in New York and be a

843
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 4: dream come true, Matt. So hopefully they're able to work

844
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 4: it out. Sometimes there's things where they see something and

845
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 4: they play it overly cautious, and you'll have another group

846
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 4: of doctors who will say no, no, no, he's fine

847
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 4: that are experts in that field. So hopefully they're able

848
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 4: to solve that and get it.

849
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 6: They did say they were going to do it like

850
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 6: they I believe at one point everybody was on board.

851
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 6: But I think it once, once something's in place. I mean,

852
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 6: you guys know that takes a you know, so you

853
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 6: don't have If you don't have a guy constantly on that,

854
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 6: pushing and pushing and pushing, it's just never gonna get done.

855
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 6: And I think that's more of a case of that

856
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 6: where you know, whether raw Joe fights in New York

857
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 6: to them, right, they couldn't give care less, you know

858
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,839
Speaker 6: what I mean. So I think it's more of an

859
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 6: issue like that. But he's definitely cleared, you know.

860
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 2: Well, I need long ago on a New York way

861
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 2: in stage wearing Aljo's chain, being.

862
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 3: Like what fucking what?

863
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 5: What?

864
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 3: Everybody? Oh you came to see me? Okay? Fuck you

865
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 3: that if you're from Boston? What right?

866
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 5: Right, guys think you're picking on me when you do that,

867
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 5: I'm picking on you because you can I don't even

868
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 5: can see that, That's what I'm saying. I come from

869
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 5: an environment where that's one hundred percent not picking on me.

870
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 2: Right, all right? I have some other things, all right?

871
00:40:56,200 --> 00:41:00,800
Speaker 2: So so this morning, and perhaps this is too personal,

872
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 2: is that an animal? What is going on on your dogs?

873
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 5: Let me close the door, Let the.

874
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 2: Dog out from under your foot.

875
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 4: I had some I had some dog issues over here too.

876
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 4: He's not gonna like my next question.

877
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 2: I was going to ask him if it was an

878
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 2: alarm clock or his wife that that wakes him up,

879
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,280
Speaker 2: you know, six hours after he slumbers for the Anakin Flor.

880
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,879
Speaker 5: Yes, I know. My thing is I get up when

881
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 5: I get up.

882
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 2: So right, But you had an eleven thirty call time

883
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 2: for us. So what do you mean you wake what?

884
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 2: So that could have thrown the whole show off, like

885
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 2: you committed to the time.

886
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 3: You wake up.

887
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:54,919
Speaker 2: It's I mean, sometimes I know it's not a live

888
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 2: radio show.

889
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 3: We build the show out.

890
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,080
Speaker 5: You guys, say what the fuck, let's just fuck it?

891
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 5: Roll the dice. He was so mad that what's a

892
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 5: nice way to God? I overslept, I missed one show.

893
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:10,879
Speaker 5: I think daddy he was. He was so mad. I'm

894
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 5: dealing with a lot. No, so eleven thirty is pretty late, though.

895
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 2: We would agree. I mean, I get up right. We

896
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 2: have children, some of us. You know who knows what

897
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 2: Cody was doing out Yeah, deep into the parents in

898
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 2: New Jersey. Fucking recreational drugs.

899
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 3: What's that?

900
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 1: Can fum?

901
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 4: We need to The Anak and Florian podcast needs to

902
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 4: produce a book of Ray longoisms, like some kind of

903
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:39,240
Speaker 4: longoisms of like all these all these you know, things

904
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 4: of wisdom, these nuggets of wisdom that Ray has said

905
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 4: over the years on our podcast, Like we need to

906
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:44,399
Speaker 4: have a book.

907
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, like the Yogi bearer of m.

908
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 3: M A exactly.

909
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 2: Yes, I like that, And I will say, and I

910
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 2: hope this doesn't you know, have people like chasing down

911
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 2: old logo tweets. But over the last two years you

912
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 2: have cleaned up your a little bit. How so Well,

913
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 2: it's funny because obviously you and I swear more than

914
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 2: Kenny does. And I actually when when Ray and I

915
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 2: talk on the phone, every other word out of one

916
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 2: of our mouths is a costs word, right like.

917
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 3: It is what it is.

918
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 2: And so we're transitioning to DraftKings and they don't give

919
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 2: a fuck what you say. They want Ray Long. They

920
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 2: want Ray Long. Go on, Stencer. But you know, when

921
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 2: I do think about making a transition and our distributor

922
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 2: being somebody like Draft Kings, you know, I do think

923
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 2: we got long goo and it can be a little

924
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:33,479
Speaker 2: bit rough.

925
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 5: Around, I don't think. So what's what's some words? Come on?

926
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 5: If you're a good if you're what your words are

927
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 5: gonna offend from buddy, Come yeah.

928
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 2: You should go delete some of your old tweets though,

929
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 2: right well, I'm just saying.

930
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 5: But I retweet a lot. I don't really tweet a lot,

931
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 5: you know, right right? I think I do a lot

932
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 5: of rep that's even a good thing or a bad thing.

933
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 5: But I don't know that's we.

934
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 2: Do miss long ago pre Instagram hack. That's been a

935
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 2: tough transition for a lot of us.

936
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,720
Speaker 5: These guys, I tell Instagram, I give him a fucking

937
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 5: f man, They s, I cannot believe a guy can

938
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 5: hijack your account. You call him up and you can't

939
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 5: get your account back. I mean, but does that make

940
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 5: any sense? Why should send me to drive his license?

941
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 5: Send me this? You can't get round? I mean, I

942
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 5: don't know how odd is that?

943
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 4: And it texts with Zuckerberg every week and he he

944
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:37,760
Speaker 4: still hasn't mentioned the Longo issue.

945
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 3: I don't understand what's going on.

946
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 5: Grabbed him by the throat. If I see him now,

947
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 5: this is this is this is It's actually ridiculous. So

948
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 5: you can just go We're gonna try to be like

949
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 5: a guy moving guy moving into your house while you

950
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 5: go out to work. And I was going to m

951
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 5: out it's not going to say though, right.

952
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 2: I remember when one of my former UFC colleagues alerted

953
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 2: me to the fact that she was a victim of

954
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 2: squatters in Las Vegas.

955
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 3: Right.

956
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 2: And I think for certain people, young listeners or viewers,

957
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 2: or maybe if you're international, I didn't learn about squatting

958
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 2: until I was in my mid thirties. That you, I

959
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 2: don't even like talking about it on the air. It's

960
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,399
Speaker 2: so corrupt that somebody can actually like go into your

961
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 2: house and somehow like lay claim to it. It's called squatting.

962
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,280
Speaker 2: It's really fucked up. And you and I were obviously

963
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 2: on the same wavelength thinking yeah, yeah, well.

964
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 5: You know, would tell you just on a different note

965
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 5: I heard. I don't even know where it was. It

966
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 5: could have been old. I heard a great interview with

967
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 5: Rampage Jackson. I was in shock man. He talked about

968
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 5: like racism and stuff. I think that guy was what

969
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 5: a good guy I never really saw. I don't know.

970
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 5: I never really can say I even met him. Yeah,

971
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 5: I definitely was around him, But I.

972
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 6: Dude, I love listening to those guys. They got such

973
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 6: a different perspective on things, and he said he grew

974
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 6: up in the South and he knows exactly what racism is.

975
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 6: And a lot of you know what people are getting accused.

976
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 6: It's just not racism. So I don't know why. But

977
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 6: if you get a chance, listen to it. I think

978
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 6: I think it was pretty good. And they talked about

979
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 6: a million things, but it was captivating to me for sure.

980
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 6: Shout out to Rampage.

981
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 2: Maybe next week you can. You can direct us as

982
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:20,280
Speaker 2: to where.

983
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: To find that.

984
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 5: I have to go back and look.

985
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 2: I forgot all right, If you guys will humor me

986
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 2: for forty five seconds, Brian Petree's going to come on

987
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 2: here in a couple of minutes, but I want to

988
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 2: read you these quotes from Alexander Volkanowski courtesy of the

989
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 2: Free Style Bender YouTube channel. So if you give me

990
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 2: about sixty seconds, the fact that I'm moving up doing

991
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 2: the bulking, telling myself we need to get stronger, we

992
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 2: need to work on that takedown defense. All of a sudden,

993
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 2: I'm twice as strong as I was. My defense is

994
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 2: just on point. I'm like an absolute brick fucking wall.

995
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 2: I put the swear in there. You like that I'm

996
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 2: an absolute brick fucking wall. When people are trying to

997
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 2: run into me and they feel it, they instantly feel it.

998
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 2: As soon as they grab a hold of me or

999
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,320
Speaker 2: we grab each other, they can already significantly see the strength.

1000
00:46:58,360 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 2: So it just makes you think where I go for

1001
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 2: here you can see in his face he's talking about Islam.

1002
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,399
Speaker 2: Maikashev's face now like this guy ain't too big. I've

1003
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 2: seen that on plenty of people's faces before. I've seen

1004
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 2: that on my previous fights, my last four or five fights.

1005
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 2: But that face quickly changes. When I'm in the octagon.

1006
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 2: Give me ten seconds with him, that face changes real quick,

1007
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,879
Speaker 2: real quick, all of a sudden, that size doesn't matter.

1008
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 2: All of a sudden. My footwork. Where's this guy?

1009
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 3: At him? A puzzle?

1010
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 2: He's already given drama. Then I put my hands on him,

1011
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 2: there's another problem. Then they try to grab a hold

1012
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,439
Speaker 2: of me and I'm like a little brick fucking wall.

1013
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 2: He actually swore that time. There's another problem. That's when

1014
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 2: you see them start to crumble and be like, fuck,

1015
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 2: what if I got myself into That's exactly what's going

1016
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 2: to happen with Islam, especially the way he's looking I

1017
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 2: can tell he really thinks he's going to be way

1018
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 2: too strong. Kenny, I'll start with you on there's a

1019
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 2: lot of people when they handicap this matchup, they start

1020
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 2: with the size and the strength. So what are your

1021
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:49,399
Speaker 2: thoughts on an obviously confident Volkanovski here about two weeks out?

1022
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,399
Speaker 4: That's right, and the size and strength issue is both

1023
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 4: a blessing and a curse, because you know, if I

1024
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 4: want to take someone down, and I am someone like

1025
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 4: a hash chef, you know he gets a lot of it.

1026
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 4: Take is takedowns up against the cage, he grabs your legs,

1027
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,399
Speaker 4: he picks you up. Now that means that he needs

1028
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 4: to get that much lower, right, due to Volkanovsky's center

1029
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 4: of gravity, he needs to get that much lower on

1030
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 4: that stocky, strong dude, and taking down a fire hydrant

1031
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 4: is always going to be problematic. Volkanovski is no chump

1032
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 4: in that arena. But that's where Mahaschef is going to

1033
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 4: win this fight if he wins it. In my mind, right,

1034
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 4: he takes you down, he beats you up, he ends

1035
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 4: up getting a submission. So I think for Volkanovski that

1036
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 4: is an advantage. Now for Volkanovsky going gets a guy

1037
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 4: who's taller, who's rangier, he needs to get that much

1038
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,280
Speaker 4: closer to him right in order to the land those shots,

1039
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 4: which allows Mahaschef to get closer to that clinch opportunity.

1040
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 4: So to me, distance is going to be the major

1041
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 4: factor in that fight. Who can dominate that distance and

1042
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 4: who can you know, prevent the other from taking him

1043
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 4: down and who can you know, get that get that

1044
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 4: striking going early. That's what it's going to come down

1045
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,399
Speaker 4: to you, I mean pretty much, that's what comes down

1046
00:48:56,400 --> 00:49:00,359
Speaker 4: every fight, but especially for these guys, right, So I say,

1047
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 4: with the fight, in my opinion, Volkanovsky is probably uh

1048
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,879
Speaker 4: the best pound for pound fighter on the planet right now.

1049
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 4: The way he puts it all together, I really think

1050
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 4: he's that good. He's extremely intelligent physically, he's a beast.

1051
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 3: He will not quit. We saw that against Ortega.

1052
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 4: He had he has had those chances to quit in

1053
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 4: fights and he will not and will not, So.

1054
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 3: I'm fascinated with it.

1055
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 4: In Mahashef is one of the finest grapplers that we've

1056
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 4: seen in the UFC. So this is gonna be a

1057
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 4: phenomenal fight. It's very rare that we get champion, Verse champion,

1058
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 4: and anytime we get that, it's always a treat and.

1059
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 3: Uh, it's gonna be great.

1060
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 4: I like hearing Volkanovsky say this because he is fired

1061
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,320
Speaker 4: up and still has that chip on his shoulder and

1062
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 4: wants to prove everybody wrong.

1063
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,399
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think Kenny's going on one thing you said

1064
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 6: that I totally agree with. It always comes down to

1065
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 6: the same thing.

1066
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 5: That's right.

1067
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,879
Speaker 6: When I hear guys analyze fights, they going this way,

1068
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 6: and I'm like, I do I just simple to me,

1069
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 6: it's simple, you know. But Kenny, I think you hit

1070
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 6: on that exactly and I get it. I'm gonna say,

1071
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 6: in this fight, when when is that fight.

1072
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 3: A couple of wiks?

1073
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:04,879
Speaker 4: Man?

1074
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 5: I mean, I think Volkanowski could pull us off. I mean,

1075
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 5: he hasn't taken a shitload of damage, right, He's he's

1076
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 5: an intelligent fighter and those he is a fire hydrant.

1077
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 5: I remember I think when Matt Ford ivan menjivar he said,

1078
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:23,919
Speaker 5: and Matt's jiu jitsu can you know was always on point,

1079
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 5: especially back then he said He's a guy would reclaim God.

1080
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,919
Speaker 5: He goes his legs were so short. He had never

1081
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 5: experienced that before and he was just you know, they

1082
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,800
Speaker 5: would he was just you know, going right back to God.

1083
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 5: I think that was the thing.

1084
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 6: But but but the point being is that because he

1085
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 6: was so short, it posed a problem in certain areas.

1086
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,800
Speaker 5: And I think I think that's what we're going to

1087
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 5: see it. Like Kenny, you mentioned in range, I'm not

1088
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 5: sure if Islam is the range.

1089
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 6: He's like that long rangey fighter where he knows how

1090
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 6: to dictate the range with his range. Right, he's more

1091
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 6: of ad so he's got to get into Yes, I

1092
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 6: don't know what happens with this.

1093
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 5: I really think this is a great matchup. And you're right,

1094
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 5: he's against the cage. Where do you go three feet

1095
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 5: below the octagon to grab this guy? Like that's not

1096
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 5: an easy thing to do. It's just not how about this?

1097
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 5: What about how about Volkanowski against Zeroki and you mentioned him,

1098
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 5: who's not that big? That's a really good fight, Like

1099
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 5: who Win's that? My gosh, look at you, look at

1100
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 5: you playing And it's not it's not lydiologic. We know that.

1101
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,919
Speaker 5: But Zerokia gave Islam.

1102
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 4: A fit, right, And that's that's one thing I never

1103
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 4: thought of, is go back to that fight that was

1104
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 4: the dude who gave him his toughest fight.

1105
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 3: You know, as far as the Mahashap than we know them.

1106
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 5: So yeah, No, I think that's the key to me

1107
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 5: is in those scrambles, who gives up first? You know

1108
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 5: what I mean?

1109
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 6: Like that, like with Zeroki, you know, those scrambles were phenomenal,

1110
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 6: but you got to be able to last out through.

1111
00:51:58,840 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 6: You got to be able to out do him in

1112
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 6: the scrambles. Like it's not even going to be a

1113
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 6: strength thing. I think it's going to be more of

1114
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 6: a cardio thing. And this is a really good fight.

1115
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 6: I'm actually especially here in Volkanowski, I'm really leaning towards him.

1116
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 6: This is a very winnable fight for five round, a

1117
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 6: very winnable fight.

1118
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 2: Kenny Florian says that when you grapple with a man,

1119
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 2: you really understand what he's made of, right beyond just

1120
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 2: the athlete, you really get a lens into that man.

1121
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 2: That's why I've never trained jiu jitsu a chemp blow,

1122
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 2: because he'll understand just how fucking soft I am. No,

1123
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be looking for a way out, but I

1124
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 2: just got brown belts being fucking annoying on my clip. Dad,

1125
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 2: I'm gone, I'll go play golf. Fuck you guys.

1126
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 3: Well, I just one to me, just blow up.

1127
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 5: To a couple of Like I think that was the

1128
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 5: thing with Widening coming up. Guy was a blue belt.

1129
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 6: He was just squashing black belts, which is unheard of, right,

1130
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 6: But he was just such a physical, you know, imposing

1131
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 6: force that he was, and he was technical.

1132
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 5: I mean that's a It's not a good combination for anybody.

1133
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 5: And even Al Joe. Tell find the guy that just

1134
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 5: I just took a piss on Al Joe grappling with him,

1135
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 5: You're not gonna find it. Algo's really good. So I

1136
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 5: think people like what you say when you grapple with him.

1137
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 5: They appreciate it. Now fighting is totally different, but you

1138
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 5: still get a feel for the guy's no joke, Like

1139
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,280
Speaker 5: if you think people think they're just going to piss

1140
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 5: on certain people, like even with the Henry Soudo fight,

1141
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 5: he's got the mindset of the Olympia. Tell me all

1142
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 5: the good things about Henry, because I guarantee it it's

1143
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 5: not it's not gonna help him.

1144
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, Peter's ready. We'll get some in like

1145
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 2: sixty seconds right now. The odds on DraftKings sportsbook Islamikasha

1146
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 2: minus three eighty Alexander Volkanowski plus three ten. But yeah,

1147
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:44,399
Speaker 2: I'm with you, Ray, like a lot of us don't

1148
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 2: see this as some major upset, And you know, Chail

1149
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 2: Sonen did a video about this as well, even though

1150
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 2: there have been times in which Volkanovsky has faced adversity

1151
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 2: in the octagon, right, certainly, I believe the second Max

1152
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,879
Speaker 2: Holloway fight, the Brian Ortega Fi Kenny, he was mounted, right,

1153
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 2: But like, if Alexander Volkanovsky is outstruck for a time, right,

1154
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 2: that'll be like the first time we really see that. Right,

1155
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:10,439
Speaker 2: if he's outstruck extendedly, if he's out grappled or out

1156
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 2: wrestled extendedly, that'll be the first time we see that.

1157
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 2: So the notion that this would be some big upset,

1158
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 2: I understand why the odds are what they are, and

1159
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 2: a lot of that is rooted in Islam's greatness and

1160
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 2: the size. But again, we're talking about the number one

1161
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:25,320
Speaker 2: pound for pound fighter in the world at least consensus,

1162
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 2: Alexander Volkanovski. I'm trying to win a fight. That's all

1163
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 2: He's done for the better part of a decade. All right,

1164
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:32,359
Speaker 2: before we let you go, Ray, We're going to bring

1165
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 2: Brian Petrie into the conversation because I just want, you know,

1166
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 2: everybody in the family to say hello to each other,

1167
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:43,320
Speaker 2: and this rising star Brian Petrie not yet his career.

1168
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 5: Ray, I haven't seen you in a while. It's been

1169
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 5: a while.

1170
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 3: Ray.

1171
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 1: I mean I watch you every week, but it's been

1172
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:49,720
Speaker 1: a while.

1173
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 5: I want to get this guy on one on one.

1174
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 5: I want to feed off of Tree's energy.

1175
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 2: I'm doing It's called a crossover. That's what I'm fucking

1176
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 2: with off his energy before. This is what in radio

1177
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 2: we call a crossover. You even though you guys are

1178
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 2: not guess your usual suspects, but you guys are crossing

1179
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 2: over right as you're leaving, he's coming on, and you

1180
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 2: guys have a little bit of inane banter and then

1181
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 2: you go on your way and we do our segment

1182
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 2: with Brian. In radio sports radio is called across.

1183
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 5: The usual suspects. What are we doing? Ken? What that

1184
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 5: is going on?

1185
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 3: I don't know. I have no idea.

1186
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:30,879
Speaker 2: So would you like the order to be reversed next

1187
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 2: time so you can feed off that Peatrie energy and

1188
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 2: then we get rid of him and then and then

1189
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:36,800
Speaker 2: you do your minute.

1190
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 6: Like, I'm good anyway it goes, Baby, I'm a professional,

1191
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 6: put me in there anytime.

1192
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 2: So I was in Rio de Janeiro and our great

1193
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 2: pay per view producer Michael laplant Lappie says to me,

1194
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 2: he's like, hey, that that handicapper on your show, Brian Petrick.

1195
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, like someone's going to come take this guy.

1196
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 2: Maybe Zach Candido in the UFC should just hire him already.

1197
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 2: But well, because obviously, like I'm here for the comedy, right,

1198
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 2: as much as I'm here for the m m A handycaps, right,

1199
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 2: I'm here for the personality. But this guy, he's a

1200
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 2: combination comedic, self aware, right, and he's been handicapping MMA

1201
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 2: since he's like fucking eleven years old.

1202
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 1: True.

1203
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 5: Listen, the first time I we.

1204
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 4: Own the rights, we own the rights to Brian, they're

1205
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 4: going to have to buy out the I.

1206
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 5: Say, we do we we we do a handshake deal

1207
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 5: and then if he Renegg's on it, we just kill him.

1208
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 5: But listen the first time, the first time I heard Brian,

1209
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 5: I said, this kid's got something special. I love the

1210
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 5: way he talks, and I don't we don't know each other. Right,

1211
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 5: It's not like I have any connection, but I just

1212
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 5: I love the energy. I love the passion. Uh. And

1213
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 5: he's consistently doing it, which is not easy to do. Right.

1214
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:49,879
Speaker 5: You could have a good week in a bad week,

1215
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:54,280
Speaker 5: but he's consistently good. And uh, I don't know he's Uh,

1216
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 5: he's a nice young man.

1217
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:57,760
Speaker 6: I want to see him succeed as much as possible.

1218
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 6: So I take that back over the go get rid

1219
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 6: of us old bass vision, Go go for Petrie. We

1220
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 6: all had our time.

1221
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 2: Thank you, all right, Ray enjoyed that col Brew and uh,

1222
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 2: we'll talk to you in.

1223
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,320
Speaker 5: A few days.

1224
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 1: Thank you.

1225
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 6: It's a pleasure. Remember head up, chim chin down, and

1226
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 6: stay off your back. Let me get out of you.

1227
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 6: Take it easy.

1228
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:20,959
Speaker 3: Thank you, buddy.

1229
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 2: There he is living legend mixed martial arts.

1230
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 1: I didn't know that segment was going to be praised. Brian,

1231
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 1: I'm embarrassed. That was That was amazing. Geez.

1232
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 2: That wasn't how it was necessarily scripted. But uh, we

1233
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 2: wanted to fire you up because this is obviously a

1234
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 2: big day in the history of any Cincinnati Bengals fan

1235
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 2: or player, and uh, obviously when a lot of people

1236
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 2: ingest this that game between the Bengals and Chiefs will

1237
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 2: be over. But this betting line has bounced all around

1238
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:48,919
Speaker 2: right now, the Bengals, at least on drafting sportsbook point

1239
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 2: and a half underdog. What do you have for us

1240
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 2: on the Bengals here, You've got to be getting a

1241
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 2: little bit anxious. I would imagine the appetite. It's necessarily

1242
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 2: all there today.

1243
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm incredibly nervous. Here's the thing is, like,

1244
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 1: you know, this is I said it last year. This

1245
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 1: is the new Peyton Tom Brady Colts Pats. They're not

1246
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 1: in the same division, but there's a fucking rivalry there.

1247
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 1: Mike Hilton last week on the micd up said, Hey,

1248
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 1: we're coming to Burrowhead the Chiefs prayers have playing with that.

1249
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 1: There's a little bit of a bad blood and we

1250
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 1: obviously were Joe Burrow's three to oo against the Chiefs. Historically,

1251
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 1: the Bengals, which has not been a great franchise, they

1252
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 1: have done really well against Kansas City Chiefs historically. So

1253
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,919
Speaker 1: all these things are pointing to the Bengals, which makes

1254
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 1: me fucking terrified. I don't like that. I like back

1255
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 1: against the wall. Let's prove people wrong. But listen, these

1256
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 1: teams know each other. We played to beat him this year.

1257
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 1: It's gonna be interesting. I mean, going to Kansas City,

1258
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow goes in there like you just did in Buffalo,

1259
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 1: gets another dub. I mean, geez will Peace I delivered

1260
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 1: to him this week again, got some new He has

1261
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 1: a big box of clothes. I rang the doorbell right

1262
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: and I'm walking. He has like step, I'm walking on

1263
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 1: a sept Someone's answers the door and I wanted to

1264
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 1: turn around so bad, but I didn't want to be

1265
00:58:57,680 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 1: like one of those guys, so as I kept walking,

1266
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 1: like played it like yeah no, los Amra's chick. But

1267
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not going to turn back and look,

1268
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 1: I got business to do. But yeah, you got a

1269
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 1: big box of clothes. Hopefully it's what he's wearing at

1270
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: the game today or walking in the game today. But yeah, man,

1271
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I mean, I wish it was the first game.

1272
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 1: Let's just say that, I don't know how I'm gonna

1273
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 1: make it the six.

1274
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 2: So I kind of love that. It's like all about

1275
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 2: the Bengals and the Chiefs and the Buffalo Bills and

1276
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 2: Josh Allen aren't really even a part of this budding rivalry.

1277
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 2: That's sort of cool. So if you deliver to Joe

1278
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 2: Burrow's house and he comes to the door, like, you've

1279
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 2: got to understand this dude is Mma Diehard show up

1280
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 2: for the first prelo type guy. So I mean, there's

1281
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 2: your jumping off point.

1282
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 1: I know I've met.

1283
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:38,919
Speaker 3: See.

1284
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 1: The thing is, I've met when I was in my

1285
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 1: younger days, like back when Raya mile Luga played on

1286
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 1: team to Honey Jones. I've met all these guys. We've

1287
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 1: shared beers. I've actually almost gotten an altercation with the

1288
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 1: Honey Jones one one drunken night, one of the reason

1289
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 1: why I don't drink anymore. But uh, but that's another

1290
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Speaker 1: story for our time. But yeah, so I've been around Bengals,

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00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 1: I've seen him, and they're in They're great guys, right,

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00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 1: And but for something about Joe Burrow, We've never had

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01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 1: a franchise guy. We thought cards was at Nope, we

1294
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 1: all knew Andy Dalton wasn't it, but we kind of

1295
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:09,479
Speaker 1: we had aj Green at the time. But Joe's the guy.

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Speaker 1: And it's just like I usually don't get starstruck. I'm

1297
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 1: not a shy person. But I just if I meet him,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I should open with hey, I know

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Speaker 1: John Innick or something like that, but I feel like

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01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 1: that's easy. I don't want to do that. So I

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01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 1: don't know what I'm gonna do when I meet him. Eventually,

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Speaker 1: it's going to happen.

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01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 2: I think he felt like he had no choice but

1304
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 2: to follow me back on Instagram after we met. You know,

1305
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 2: I don't think some like huge John anickthan but I

1306
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 2: can tell you in an era in which a lot

1307
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 2: of people show up late for fights, especially on the

1308
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 2: West Coast Premom number one, that dude's sitting there because

1309
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 2: he's got any horse in the race. All right, Before

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01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 2: we get to the main event challenge, I have an

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Speaker 2: audio file that I want to play for you guys.

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Speaker 2: So we're going to call on our producer Cody Merrow

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01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 2: for the pronunciation of the week. We have played this

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Speaker 2: file before. He is headlining against the blackbeas Derek Lewis

1315
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 2: this weekend. His nickname is the Polar Bear, and he

1316
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 2: just sounds like a guy that really is good at

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01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 2: beating people up in this audio file. But I have

1318
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 2: heard his name in different uh in different ways. Out

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01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 2: there in the stratosphere. So we're gonna call on Cody

1320
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 2: and uh bring him into the conversation. Cody, what's going on, kid?

1321
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 2: What's up?

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01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 7: How are we doing?

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01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 2: Fellas good Good?

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01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 7: I'm on the Bengals plus two. We'll see the episode

1325
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 7: will probably be out after the game, but with hopefully

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Speaker 7: I ain.

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Speaker 2: J So, uh, Derrek Lewis is fighting this this polar

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01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 2: Beer heavyweight this weekend. I'd like to hear you say

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01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 2: his name and then uh and then hit that hit

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01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 2: hit us with that file.

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01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 7: All right, So I believe it's spivak.

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01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 2: Why is everybody saying fucking spevak. I mean, let's hear

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01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 2: him zipull arm beer spiuok a pull arm beer spak.

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01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 7: Because that's what he says, zippular beer spuuk spied walk.

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01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 2: I mean I hear spivvoc you know. I actually, as

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01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 2: long as you're emphasizing the first syllable, I don't really

1337
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 2: think it matters. I certainly hear spit and not spivac

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01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 2: in that setecond one BP got anything.

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01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 1: No, I mean, I'm terrible this stuff.

1340
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 2: I'm here to make picks, right, I actually study what matters,

1341
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 2: not pronunciations.

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01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 4: I heard Spevak. I actually, I'm usually pretty hard on Cody.

1343
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 3: I give him this one.

1344
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we're going to give it to him.

1345
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 2: We're going to give them Spivok or Spevak both both

1346
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 2: count and uh. I believe that's the first pronunciation of

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01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 2: the year. So you're actually want to know.

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Speaker 1: There you go, Cody.

1349
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 4: Cody's still recovering from that Chandler quote from Uta.

1350
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 3: We gotta make him feel a little.

1351
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 7: Because I was crying.

1352
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 2: That's why Cody will be back later in the show

1353
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:43,920
Speaker 2: with anything that we missed over the course of the

1354
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 2: next ninety minutes. And also don't forget safe, so out

1355
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 2: and blow Muhammad on the Anaconformed podcast coming up on Thursday.

1356
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 2: But now let us make some UFC selections and then

1357
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 2: we will let Big Gun Brian Peter get back to

1358
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 2: his championship Sunday. First prediction for US is going to

1359
01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 2: be a featherweight do Ho choin minus one ninety five,

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01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 2: taken on Kyle Nelson's plus one sixty five. First appearance

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01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 2: for Duo Choi Brian I believe since twenty nineteen and

1362
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 2: his first fight since his fight with Cubs. Wantson was

1363
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 2: inducted into the UFC Hall of Fame Class of twenty

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01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 2: twenty two. Ryan Stan actually was on the call the

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01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 2: last time Duo Choi won a fight. That was July eighth,

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01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen. Now he draws Kyle Nelson, who has lost

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01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 2: four or five in the UFC. Brian Petrie, Which way

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01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 2: you going, kid?

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01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 1: The super boy, the Korean Superboy, It's back. And finally

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01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 1: there's a fighter that's thirty one that looks fifteen. Ge

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01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 1: the I get the sixteen year old comments, you know

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01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:35,800
Speaker 1: this guy's sixteen. This this Petrie kid stinks, So I

1373
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:38,200
Speaker 1: got I got something in common with them, right, But

1374
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like he was living off the

1375
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 1: Cubs Swanson fight for a while, right. I feel like

1376
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 1: he was coming into these fights wanting to replicate that

1377
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 1: because he is an explosive, powerful dude, great boxing, but

1378
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 1: you know that took a lot out of him. I

1379
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 1: think he needs a well round his skills that he's

1380
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 1: killer be killed. And I really wish you would switch

1381
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 1: some things up because he has a wide arsenal. But

1382
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 1: you know, at the end of the day, and this

1383
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 1: kid's a dog like he goes in there and scraps.

1384
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 1: That's just the way he is, he's thirty one, He's

1385
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 1: not this young kid anymore. I think he's going to

1386
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 1: be the same, but hopefully dial it back just enough.

1387
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 1: Because kylein Nelson one in four in UFC. He's a

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01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:15,439
Speaker 1: slang and bang fighter as well, but he's been put

1389
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:18,120
Speaker 1: out in the first round. You got to progressively get

1390
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 1: this guy out of their second, third round. So if

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01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 1: Dulatoy goes out there, tries to get him out in

1392
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:24,439
Speaker 1: that first round. I mean, obviously anything's possible. It is MMA,

1393
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 1: but you might you might blow your gas tank out

1394
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 1: and then and then lose the second or third because

1395
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 1: Duolo Troy his gas has been a little bit of

1396
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 1: a problem. With that being said, though, I'm not scared

1397
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 1: of the layoff or anything. Minus one ninety five is

1398
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 1: a little bit higher than I would like to pay,

1399
01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 1: just because he is coming off a couple of losses,

1400
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 1: a couple of finished losses. Nelson does have power, he

1401
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 1: knocked out Polar Rays, But I like I like super

1402
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 1: I like uh super Cream super Boy here whichoy inside

1403
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 1: the distance as well. I don't think there's no way

1404
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 1: that this is going to the judges, But Ho Toy

1405
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 1: by ko Late is my pick.

1406
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 2: I couldn't find if there was any military service that

1407
01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 2: led to some of this layoffs or have been fight

1408
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 2: cancelation for the Korean Superboy Duho Choi, who will now

1409
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 2: be introduced by Bruce Buffer as a hall of fame

1410
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 2: or sort of a weird thing when they're in for

1411
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 2: the fight. Right on the other side, Kyle Nelson, we

1412
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 2: mentioned one in four in the UFC. Last fight was

1413
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 2: at fifty five. Now back to featherweight. Here Ken Flow

1414
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 2: Kyle Nelson or Duo Choi for you kid?

1415
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think this is going to be

1416
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 3: a tough fight for Kyle.

1417
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 5: You know.

1418
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 4: I feel like do who Choi is going to have

1419
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:26,439
Speaker 4: the advantage on the feed. I also expect to see

1420
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 4: some big changes in his game. I would think that

1421
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 4: he's added some new weapons. So yeah, I like the

1422
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 4: Korean super Boy as well. Next up at heavyweight, I mean,

1423
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 4: can we put some respect on the name Marching tabora

1424
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 4: split decision win against the previously undefeated Alexander Romanov, He's

1425
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 4: now a minus one fifty favorite against Boogoy. I got

1426
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 4: a nickname for this guy. Can he be Blagoy? One

1427
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 4: tough customer?

1428
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 2: Even off Like I mean, I don't know how with

1429
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 2: a human weapon you get this guy out of there.

1430
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 2: Blagoy one tough customer, even off is plus one thirty

1431
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 2: and also of his UFC fights have gone the distance.

1432
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 2: Not shocking because you can't have a weapon in there,

1433
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 2: therefore you can't get him out of there. Brian, what

1434
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 2: do you think here? Even Avin Tabor in the UFC's

1435
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:09,680
Speaker 2: heavyweight division on the main car.

1436
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 1: When I do my podcast, when I say this guy's name, Blagoy,

1437
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:14,960
Speaker 1: it's like the toughest name that you can name anybody.

1438
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, just saying it makes me tough, right,

1439
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 1: this guy and then just happened. This guy's fucking nails right.

1440
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 1: Everything's been through outside, locked on inside the dock, and

1441
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 1: you can't get him out of There's one finished his

1442
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:26,480
Speaker 1: entire career by submission years ago. Can't knock him out.

1443
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 1: He's been in there with like everyone. But these are

1444
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 1: type of fights that get me a handicapper. Stays up

1445
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:34,560
Speaker 1: at night mid to every heavyweight fights with a close line.

1446
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 1: People are gonna be dog chasing on Blagoy because he's

1447
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 1: that kind of dog. He can win these kind of

1448
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 1: scrappy fights. And this is very evenly MaTx type Ward

1449
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:45,040
Speaker 1: though he's sixteen times in the UFC, got to get

1450
01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 1: a little respect on his name. Early on his UFC career,

1451
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 1: got knocked out a handful of times. Now he's getting

1452
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:51,440
Speaker 1: off wins. He slammed the brakes in Roman Off as

1453
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 1: a huge underdog. This guy is getting better. He's in Vegas,

1454
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 1: he's training with Bitbock. These guys are are really becoming

1455
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 1: well rounded headweights, even at thirty seven years old as Tabora.

1456
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 1: So the one thing when you look at this fight,

1457
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 1: they both want to do the same thing. They're very

1458
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:06,840
Speaker 1: good in the clinch, their stand up as both Okay,

1459
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 1: I know Blue Boy's got some power, but he's very

1460
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 1: short clinch. And then one guy wants to get on top.

1461
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:13,439
Speaker 1: Who has a better takedown? So who has a better

1462
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:16,440
Speaker 1: top game? Tybor on top is a problem. I'm gonna

1463
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:18,400
Speaker 1: stay as far away from this fight as I can

1464
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:20,960
Speaker 1: betting wise, but the pick is gonna be Tibora just

1465
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 1: because he's a bigger guy. I think he can get

1466
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 1: on top. Give some problems. Definitely not finishing this guy.

1467
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 1: It's going to decisions that might be a play, but

1468
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a chalky number. But give me Marcine Tabora.

1469
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 2: Ken Flow, blago Ivanov coming off a win over pays

1470
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 2: Out UFC two seventy four. He is three and three

1471
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 2: in the UFC All six, as I mentioned, be gone

1472
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:44,040
Speaker 2: the Distance, including a twenty five minute UFC debut against

1473
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:47,400
Speaker 2: Junior Dos Santos in Boise, Idaho, twenty eighteen. A lot

1474
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:49,400
Speaker 2: of people like over two and a half rounds here,

1475
01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:51,440
Speaker 2: but we need a head to head prediction on the heavyweights.

1476
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:54,480
Speaker 2: Can Flow Marching, Tabora or blago Ivanof.

1477
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, even off, He's one of those guys who is

1478
01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 4: extremely durable. You know, his chin is amazing. As you

1479
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:04,520
Speaker 4: guys mentioned, He's a guy can take a lot of punishment,

1480
01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:08,480
Speaker 4: very very difficult to take him out. But I don't

1481
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 4: see a whole lot of offensive skills where I see

1482
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 4: him taking out Tybor Now. Sometimes Tibori just makes big

1483
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 4: mistakes and he gets caught. I think those days are

1484
01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 4: behind him for the most part. He used to make

1485
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 4: a lot of silly mistakes early on, even when he

1486
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:23,640
Speaker 4: was winning fights, and I would sleep on him. But

1487
01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 4: I've been sleeping on him a little bit too long.

1488
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:28,719
Speaker 4: I think Tibori's game is certainly coming together. Now he's

1489
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:31,719
Speaker 4: fighting with way more confidence. He's throwing which with way

1490
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:34,479
Speaker 4: more volume, and I think he has more skills and

1491
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:37,639
Speaker 4: more ways to win this fight. I like Tybora as well.

1492
01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:40,480
Speaker 2: And by the way, if you don't know Blagoa Ivanov's

1493
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 2: history about being stabbed in the sternum and making his

1494
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 2: own way a cab and being on a respirator and

1495
01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:52,759
Speaker 2: everything else, the dude's grand you know. The backyard shed

1496
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 2: nickname was taken by a lier Latifi. Now the latif

1497
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 2: he's gone. But Cody's saying, why not the tough customer? No, see,

1498
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:01,360
Speaker 2: Cody is born in the nineteen nineties. I love you, buddy,

1499
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:04,439
Speaker 2: but the saying is one tough customer. So there in

1500
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:07,720
Speaker 2: live yep. One tough customer whuaggle even or maybe you

1501
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:09,439
Speaker 2: go on the front end of his name and you

1502
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:14,519
Speaker 2: go one tough customer waggo Ivano no anybody else fron

1503
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 2: end nicknames.

1504
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 1: I'm with you, John, I do like front end nicknames.

1505
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 2: I mean, Brian Petrie, we don't put big gun in

1506
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 2: the middle.

1507
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:23,439
Speaker 1: That's right, God damn right, you know, all right?

1508
01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:27,839
Speaker 2: Next up for us dot Wound Jung minus two fifteen

1509
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 2: Devin Brown, bad clock plus one eighty five. I'd love

1510
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 2: to say that, David, Sorry, what are we doing here?

1511
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:36,800
Speaker 2: Every off the rails, Devin Brown back clock all right,

1512
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 2: ready can flow over under over under thirteen and a

1513
01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:44,120
Speaker 2: half UFC appearances thus far for Devin Clark, over under

1514
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:48,599
Speaker 2: thirteen and a half UFC appearances for Devin Clark, It's

1515
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:50,280
Speaker 2: probably over. Isn't that amazing?

1516
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 5: Right?

1517
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 2: I remember the guy's whole career seven and seven in

1518
01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:56,760
Speaker 2: the UFC. This will be his fifteenth UFC start. On

1519
01:09:56,840 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 2: the other side, Down Jung knocked out by Dustin Jacoby

1520
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 2: in three point thirteen last July on ABC, and there

1521
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:05,920
Speaker 2: went the long unbeaten streak, but still getting the respect

1522
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 2: from odds makers and seemingly the betting public. Here sneaky,

1523
01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:12,040
Speaker 2: big fight. Brian Patriot two hundred and five pounds. You're

1524
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:13,479
Speaker 2: going with Donald Jong or Devin Klak?

1525
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:13,920
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1526
01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 1: You know so? Twenty twenty two is over new year.

1527
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 1: Knew me right, I'm not falling for the Devin Clark

1528
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:20,599
Speaker 1: underdog trap again.

1529
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:20,880
Speaker 7: Right.

1530
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:24,280
Speaker 1: His father's in his corner. Sometimes he's very polarizing, gets

1531
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:26,400
Speaker 1: me fired the fuck up, and I go, oh, this

1532
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 1: is a great plus number, and a guy who's got

1533
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:31,680
Speaker 1: restling ability, got some good knockout ability's you know the

1534
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:33,840
Speaker 1: stealer quote from Mike Goldberg who said it every time

1535
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 1: someone had big legs. He's built like a running back,

1536
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:38,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So this guy has all

1537
01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:40,600
Speaker 1: the angels. But I really like doing jewels skills. I

1538
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:42,800
Speaker 1: really do. I'm not sleeping on because he got knocked out.

1539
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 1: He's massive for the vision right in his firefights in UFC,

1540
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:48,479
Speaker 1: is showed well round in this. He can grapple, he

1541
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:51,479
Speaker 1: can stand up. His cardio has been tested. And I

1542
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 1: like the number. I know it's high, it's good to climb.

1543
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 1: I've already placed a bet on this fight, that's how

1544
01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 1: much I like it. And I know he got kot

1545
01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 1: his last time. I put Jacoby, But Jacoby's the you

1546
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 1: know what I mean, two hundred five pounds, You're gonna

1547
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:04,760
Speaker 1: get caught one of these times. He's only twenty nine

1548
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:06,720
Speaker 1: years old, the only time he's been knocked out. That

1549
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 1: doesn't worry me. Here, I love the number of minus

1550
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:11,840
Speaker 1: two fifteen and lock him up. Maybe this is my

1551
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 1: numbers for the week. Three units, and again I think

1552
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:17,479
Speaker 1: a lot already very confident is fight. I think it

1553
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 1: goes to a decision because Devin Clark, I think is

1554
01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 1: a tough out. I think in June is just gonna

1555
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 1: be better everywhere. There could be a finish in there,

1556
01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 1: but I like him by decision. I'm not going to

1557
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:28,880
Speaker 1: touch a propier choosing a side. Dun't June. Let's go.

1558
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:31,200
Speaker 2: So if you don't know the standings right now. In

1559
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:33,800
Speaker 2: the main event challenge Brian Patriots plus four hundred and

1560
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:36,840
Speaker 2: thirty five American dollars Kenny Florian minus one hundred and

1561
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 2: fifteen dollars. That is a six hundred and forty five

1562
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:45,080
Speaker 2: dollars wager from Brian Pete ont Jung to return three

1563
01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 2: hundred ken flow circle gets the square? Which way you're going?

1564
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:53,360
Speaker 3: I got some work to do now.

1565
01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:57,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, I'm with him on that one, and I

1566
01:11:57,680 --> 01:12:00,599
Speaker 4: have definitely fallen victim to that as well. Devin Clark

1567
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:03,640
Speaker 4: has so much potential. I always feel like, you know,

1568
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:06,000
Speaker 4: he has more to give. There's something he could do

1569
01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:08,919
Speaker 4: to kind of, uh, you know, fulfill that potential.

1570
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:10,160
Speaker 3: But it's hard to see.

1571
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 4: He's inconsistent and that is always a difficult guy to

1572
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 4: to rely on. Donand Jung I think is a guy

1573
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 4: who's got a ton of skills. I think he can

1574
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:22,639
Speaker 4: win this fight both on the feeding on the ground.

1575
01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:28,000
Speaker 4: Very dangerous in his own right, but uh yeah, I'm

1576
01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 4: going with I'm going with the Korean fighter here as well.

1577
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:34,439
Speaker 4: Uh not gonna put three units down, But interesting to

1578
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:37,840
Speaker 4: hear Brian, that confident that usually goes well fire, all right.

1579
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:40,479
Speaker 2: That brings us to the main event and ken flow.

1580
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:42,800
Speaker 2: This podcast might have felt longer to you than that

1581
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:45,680
Speaker 2: little four fight card you called in Orlando, Florida a

1582
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:47,599
Speaker 2: couple of nights and you hear about that, Brian Peintree.

1583
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:49,960
Speaker 2: The guy shows up fucking flies into call four fights.

1584
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:50,719
Speaker 3: That's amazing.

1585
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 2: Where can I get that gig? Fucking four fights?

1586
01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 3: Right?

1587
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:57,120
Speaker 2: Four fights? I'm gonna have four fights under my fucking

1588
01:12:57,200 --> 01:13:02,920
Speaker 2: roof today, all right, serge Spibok, he'll never be Spevak

1589
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 2: to me, but he will be Spevok on broadcast probably

1590
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:09,599
Speaker 2: Sergei Spivoch minus two thirty Derek Lewis plus one ninety five.

1591
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 2: As you guys know, this fight was to happen late

1592
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:14,920
Speaker 2: last year. Spivok made his UFC debut in twenty nineteen,

1593
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:17,439
Speaker 2: again against Walt the big ticket. Harris got knocked out.

1594
01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:21,720
Speaker 2: I'm not sure any UFC heavyweight Brian has improved as

1595
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:23,439
Speaker 2: much as this guy has over the course of his

1596
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:26,120
Speaker 2: UFC career. I'm sure Tommy Aspinall and others might challenge

1597
01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 2: me on that, but absolute beast. He's won two in

1598
01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:31,120
Speaker 2: a row, five of six, had a big twenty twenty two.

1599
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 2: Derek Lewis momentum wise seemingly going in the opposite direction.

1600
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:36,840
Speaker 2: Must the price. Our producer thinks spivok should be like

1601
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:39,160
Speaker 2: minus six hundred. How do you ndicap the main event,

1602
01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:40,840
Speaker 2: Brian Peachey and ultimately which way you going?

1603
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:42,679
Speaker 1: I was gonna expose Cody a little bit. He said

1604
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 1: spivaks should be minus one thousand. So I'm on the

1605
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:50,080
Speaker 1: Derek Lewis side. We've picked this before and it's very deceiving.

1606
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 1: When you look at Derek Lewis, you think, oh, Derek

1607
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:54,439
Speaker 1: Luis is gonna lose these grap loose. He's actually done

1608
01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:57,160
Speaker 1: minus DC who kind of done it all, not really

1609
01:13:57,200 --> 01:13:59,680
Speaker 1: just only a grappler. Derek Louis has done really well

1610
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 1: against grapplers. He really struggles with the power strikers, right,

1611
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:05,639
Speaker 1: and not to mention, if you look at Derek Lewis's Instagram.

1612
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 1: He's running, he's in shape. This is going to be

1613
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:09,760
Speaker 1: a bet for me. I would lock him up, dog,

1614
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:11,920
Speaker 1: lock him up right now. But there's definitely gonna be

1615
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:14,080
Speaker 1: a bet for me on the scales because Derek Lewis

1616
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:16,040
Speaker 1: pulled out earlier. I believe it some kind of illness

1617
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:19,880
Speaker 1: day of and I always sleep on Spitbock. I've heard

1618
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:22,720
Speaker 1: stories about him in Vegas, being a great teammate, a grinder,

1619
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:25,840
Speaker 1: really good fifteen and three record. But if Derek Lewis

1620
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:28,800
Speaker 1: jumps on him early like Tommy Aspinall did, like Wald

1621
01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 1: Harris did, there's no one hits harder on Derek Lewis,

1622
01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:33,960
Speaker 1: regardless of how many times he's lost in the past

1623
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:37,480
Speaker 1: or whatever. He just got jumped on early by Paolovich,

1624
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:41,680
Speaker 1: who is a fucking, rushing, mauling bear who is terrifying.

1625
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:43,680
Speaker 1: So you know, you can't fault him with that. But

1626
01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:45,360
Speaker 1: you know, obviously Derek Lewis has been in there with

1627
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:47,320
Speaker 1: a lot of guys and there's some steam coming off

1628
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 1: him a little bit. You know, he's very funny. He

1629
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:51,040
Speaker 1: needs to win. That's what the thing you need to

1630
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:53,439
Speaker 1: hear the post fights, you need, you know, his social

1631
01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:56,519
Speaker 1: media is really slowed down with the hole. He's okay stuff,

1632
01:14:57,400 --> 01:14:58,920
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean plus one eighty five on a

1633
01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 1: guy like Derek Luiz who hits against a guy who

1634
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:03,439
Speaker 1: has been knocked out before. And Derek Lewis again has

1635
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:05,720
Speaker 1: ruins over Curtis Blaze, Latifi, Olin Nick and Tap where

1636
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 1: it can be thrown in that grappling class. He's done

1637
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 1: well against guys that want to get him down, and

1638
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:12,920
Speaker 1: I think Spitby desperately needs to take down. If he

1639
01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:15,040
Speaker 1: doesn't get it, it's going to be a bad night

1640
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 1: for him. Really good live betting spot, but we don't

1641
01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:19,120
Speaker 1: have the opportunity to do that right now. Give me

1642
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:19,960
Speaker 1: Derek Lewis by.

1643
01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:24,439
Speaker 2: KO Derek Lewis plus one ninety five the pick for

1644
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:27,679
Speaker 2: Brian Petrie by Knockout and Ken Fill. Let me just say,

1645
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:30,880
Speaker 2: as somebody who runs twenty or twenty five miles a week,

1646
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:34,000
Speaker 2: that just doesn't necessarily mean that you're in shape. Right,

1647
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:37,080
Speaker 2: I'm not necessarily in shape. And we talk a lot

1648
01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:41,080
Speaker 2: about energy systems and I don't care what Derek Lewis

1649
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:44,160
Speaker 2: has done to get his cardiovascular base in great shape.

1650
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:46,800
Speaker 2: I think sometimes it's his energy system combined with his

1651
01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:49,800
Speaker 2: IQ that fails him in these situations. He'll be thirty

1652
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:53,120
Speaker 2: eight three days after the fight. That's not a handicap

1653
01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:54,800
Speaker 2: from me. I just think that's a little bit of

1654
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:57,280
Speaker 2: the reality. What are your thoughts on a seemingly in

1655
01:15:57,360 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 2: shape Derek Lewis here as a pretty underdog against the

1656
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:03,440
Speaker 2: polar bear Spivak.

1657
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:05,519
Speaker 4: John, I agree with you and listen, but I think

1658
01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:07,880
Speaker 4: Brian brings up a good point as well. It's like,

1659
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:09,880
Speaker 4: you know, the power is the last thing to go.

1660
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:11,439
Speaker 4: I don't think that's ever going to leave a guy

1661
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:14,680
Speaker 4: like Derek Lewis. It's what always makes him dangerous and

1662
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 4: always gives him a shot. But I think this is

1663
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:20,760
Speaker 4: a really tough match for him. I think Spivok does

1664
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:23,640
Speaker 4: a great job of utilizing his strikes to set up

1665
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:28,000
Speaker 4: his takedowns, whether it's wrestling style takedowns or judo style takedowns.

1666
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:30,040
Speaker 4: He can put you on your back in a lot

1667
01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:32,439
Speaker 4: of different ways, and I think for Derek Lewis to

1668
01:16:32,479 --> 01:16:36,680
Speaker 4: be down there makes him not only susceptible to submissions,

1669
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:39,479
Speaker 4: but to grounded pounds. Spivoc will not let up, and

1670
01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:41,799
Speaker 4: I think these are the kind of fights that will

1671
01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:45,280
Speaker 4: kind of elevate him and he realized the importance of it.

1672
01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:48,719
Speaker 4: Derek Lewis still a big name. He's inconsistent, but everybody

1673
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:50,880
Speaker 4: knows who Derek Lewis is. If you're a fan of

1674
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 4: the UFC and I like Spivoc here, I think this

1675
01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 4: is this is a lock for me. Will I will

1676
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:03,680
Speaker 4: match three units to Brian. I like this one. I

1677
01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 4: think Spivoc gets him down and ultimately gets some kind

1678
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:07,679
Speaker 4: of a t KO.

1679
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:09,919
Speaker 3: Could happen earlier.

1680
01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:12,639
Speaker 4: I suspect it will happen earlier, but if it goes later,

1681
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:14,559
Speaker 4: I think it that kind of favors him too, because

1682
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 4: I expect Derek Louis to kind of slow down here.

1683
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:21,719
Speaker 4: So the other thing is this, you know, Derek Lewis,

1684
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 4: how much does he want to win at the stage

1685
01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:25,960
Speaker 4: of the game. You know, he gets paid a lot

1686
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:28,600
Speaker 4: of money to go out there and perform. Is he

1687
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:31,040
Speaker 4: doing this for a paycheck? Or is he doing this

1688
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:33,760
Speaker 4: because he desperately wants to win? He needs to win?

1689
01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:36,479
Speaker 4: But does he want to win? I think that that's

1690
01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:38,599
Speaker 4: the big question with Derek. And I'm so glad he's

1691
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:40,320
Speaker 4: making a ton of money. He deserves it all, but

1692
01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:43,120
Speaker 4: that that's a question.

1693
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 1: Mark for me.

1694
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:45,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, that Derek Lewis show money is a real thing.

1695
01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:49,920
Speaker 2: Six hundred and ninety dollars to pay three hundred on

1696
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:53,040
Speaker 2: sarg Spivach minus two thirty for Kenny Floria. I mean,

1697
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:54,840
Speaker 2: what are they paying Ken Flow to show right for

1698
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:57,559
Speaker 2: four fights? I mean in the fucking out fly in

1699
01:17:57,640 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 2: fucking day up. Sorry at Brian Petrie, m m A

1700
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:03,800
Speaker 2: if you want more from him. He is the host

1701
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:05,479
Speaker 2: of the m m A Takes podcasts, and I do

1702
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:07,720
Speaker 2: believe that you will be featured on UFCS on the

1703
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:11,240
Speaker 2: line at some point in the not too distant future. Business,

1704
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:16,000
Speaker 2: I have a great week, Go begals, Buddy talking about

1705
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:16,880
Speaker 2: the super Bowl next week?

1706
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:18,559
Speaker 1: All right, my memor, you got it. Boys.

1707
01:18:18,920 --> 01:18:20,920
Speaker 2: There he is Brian Petrie with us on a Sunday

1708
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:24,840
Speaker 2: here on the Anakin Florian podcast and uh, Cody just

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Speaker 2: doubling down. I know they're saying one tough customer, and

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01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:32,040
Speaker 2: but Bruce saying he is the tough customers better in

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01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:34,080
Speaker 2: in my opinion, you could have put like I m

1712
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 2: h O. In your humble opinion, you still miss and

1713
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 2: missing the point. But I love you so much that

1714
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:40,920
Speaker 2: I want to bring in here for the barrow seconds

1715
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:42,880
Speaker 2: at the end of the program, and you put your

1716
01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 2: stuff in the center if you want, but there, why would.

1717
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:48,320
Speaker 7: I put my humble upot my humble? So why would

1718
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:51,200
Speaker 7: why would I lie? You know that I'm being disingenuous.

1719
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:51,760
Speaker 1: That's not fair.

1720
01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 2: That's fair, that's fair. I mean, so, uh, what's going on?

1721
01:18:57,120 --> 01:18:57,200
Speaker 4: What?

1722
01:18:57,360 --> 01:18:57,719
Speaker 3: Uh?

1723
01:18:57,840 --> 01:18:58,200
Speaker 2: What?

1724
01:18:58,200 --> 01:18:58,479
Speaker 1: What?

1725
01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:00,599
Speaker 2: What are we doing with forty nine Ers Eagles? I mean,

1726
01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 2: I know it's about to happen here. I mean, which

1727
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:04,800
Speaker 2: way we're going? I'm going. I'm going forty nine Ers

1728
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:07,920
Speaker 2: bought up to three points minus one twenty five.

1729
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:09,680
Speaker 7: I like the Niners two and we don't know how

1730
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:12,040
Speaker 7: hurt Jalen hurts is so I like the Niners that

1731
01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:14,240
Speaker 7: what is it plus two and a half. It's both

1732
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:15,679
Speaker 7: The games have pretty much the same line.

1733
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 1: Pretty interesting.

1734
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:18,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, And on the baack of that.

1735
01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:21,320
Speaker 7: I put this in the chat before BP got off,

1736
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:23,040
Speaker 7: so he saw this. If the Bengals win and Derek

1737
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:25,439
Speaker 7: Lewis wins, I will send VP a Bengals jersey off

1738
01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:26,679
Speaker 7: his choosing for the Super Bowl.

1739
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:27,479
Speaker 1: Don't care.

1740
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:30,280
Speaker 7: That's plus one plus five nineteen as a parlay. So

1741
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:33,479
Speaker 7: if he hits that, I'll gladly send him a Jersey amazing.

1742
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:38,240
Speaker 7: So you guys brought up a UFC return to Miami.

1743
01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:40,519
Speaker 7: I was wondering, you know, what is the ideal fight

1744
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:42,519
Speaker 7: if you guys were matchmakers for the headline of a

1745
01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:43,719
Speaker 7: UFC Boston return.

1746
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:48,040
Speaker 2: Well, what I always say about Boston is that TJ.

1747
01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:51,040
Speaker 2: Dillashaw and Domina Cruz can headline at the TD Garden

1748
01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:53,880
Speaker 2: as they did in twenty sixteen, and it was for

1749
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:56,040
Speaker 2: a title, right, but it can be a UFC fight

1750
01:19:56,200 --> 01:20:00,760
Speaker 2: night Dila Shaw versus Cruise, and it's fight town that

1751
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:03,960
Speaker 2: appreciates offense and defense that in a broad sense is

1752
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:07,120
Speaker 2: not gonna boo grappling nor wrestling. So I don't know

1753
01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:10,080
Speaker 2: that it much matters. But uh, this is my way

1754
01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 2: of delaying to try to come up with an answer.

1755
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:14,640
Speaker 2: I mean, to me, it's Florian Low's on too, like

1756
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:17,400
Speaker 2: at whatever advanced page. But give me a little bit

1757
01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:19,559
Speaker 2: of time to think about it. I think Rob Font,

1758
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 2: you know, got to be a pot of it. You

1759
01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:24,240
Speaker 2: know Rob fucking Font right now. You know Robbie fucking

1760
01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:27,840
Speaker 2: trot Robbie Font out there. I don't know, Kenny, what's

1761
01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:29,479
Speaker 2: the dream fight to headline in Boston?

1762
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:34,760
Speaker 4: Bring McGregor back, Bring McGregor, back, McGregor back to Boston. Uh,

1763
01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:37,280
Speaker 4: I mean McGregor's gonna sell out. You could put him anywhere.

1764
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:41,080
Speaker 4: But I mean I think the Bostonians would would certainly

1765
01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:44,000
Speaker 4: love a McGregor returned to the the TD Guard and

1766
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:45,960
Speaker 4: put up against whoever he's going to coach against. On

1767
01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:49,000
Speaker 4: tough is there are the rumors correct here with with

1768
01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:50,640
Speaker 4: is it gonna be him and Ferguson?

1769
01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:51,599
Speaker 3: Is that gonna happen?

1770
01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:54,439
Speaker 7: I want, I want it to be. I think I

1771
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:56,240
Speaker 7: think it's Ferguson or Chandler pretty clearly.

1772
01:20:56,320 --> 01:20:59,800
Speaker 2: It kind of makes sense, yeah, Chandler, Yeah, Yeah. I

1773
01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:02,280
Speaker 2: don't dive too much into the Ultimate Fighter rumors. Boys,

1774
01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:05,320
Speaker 2: we're producing and hosting the Anak and Prums podcast here today.

1775
01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:08,080
Speaker 2: Tough rumors, No, No, I mean, I'm sure we'll get

1776
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:11,519
Speaker 2: into it with Right and Gilbert. I believe there's been

1777
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:13,720
Speaker 2: some back and forth. Maybe Colby Covington. I mean, for me,

1778
01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:16,559
Speaker 2: it's like my dream matchup for Boston or any other

1779
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:20,760
Speaker 2: city is kamzat Chimaya versus Colby Covington. Now, I think

1780
01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:23,320
Speaker 2: it stands to reason that our dear friend Balal is

1781
01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:25,880
Speaker 2: going to fight one of those two guys. Right, but

1782
01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:31,280
Speaker 2: I'm literally on the record dating to December twelfth, twoenty twenty.

1783
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:34,200
Speaker 2: I've said this three years now that that's my dream

1784
01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:36,320
Speaker 2: fight Colby and comes up, So lock the door behind them,

1785
01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:36,559
Speaker 2: A right?

1786
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:38,639
Speaker 1: I love that.

1787
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:39,240
Speaker 3: That's a good one.

1788
01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:40,599
Speaker 1: What's up, Cody? Just violence?

1789
01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:43,960
Speaker 7: I mean, if I was Peter Murray or Don Davis,

1790
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:47,040
Speaker 7: you know what I'm doing is Jake Paul versus somebody,

1791
01:21:47,479 --> 01:21:50,599
Speaker 7: Francis and Gano versus somebody, and Kenny Florin versus whoever

1792
01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:52,280
Speaker 7: they want on the pay per view. Give Kenny the

1793
01:21:52,280 --> 01:21:54,880
Speaker 7: pay per view points because he's selling the tickets. I mean,

1794
01:21:54,880 --> 01:21:58,280
Speaker 7: who says no, right, yeah, they just need to pay

1795
01:21:58,320 --> 01:21:59,280
Speaker 7: for my back replacement.

1796
01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:02,760
Speaker 2: I'm always is just going to prevent that scenario. I

1797
01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:05,200
Speaker 2: would though, if I were those guys that Cody speaks of,

1798
01:22:05,320 --> 01:22:07,280
Speaker 2: lock Kenny up to a Tom Brady like long term

1799
01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:09,880
Speaker 2: broadcasting contract before the UFC comes, Tom try to get

1800
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:10,240
Speaker 2: him back.

1801
01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:11,559
Speaker 7: Well, So, I don't know how it's going to impact

1802
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:13,559
Speaker 7: the jiu jitsu. We're gonna they're gonna fight in those

1803
01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:17,280
Speaker 7: zorb things, those like inflatable circles that you can wear,

1804
01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:19,320
Speaker 7: or in those like costumes.

1805
01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:20,400
Speaker 1: So that the.

1806
01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:23,120
Speaker 7: Impact will be a little bit blunted for Kenny'd be great.

1807
01:22:24,439 --> 01:22:26,240
Speaker 3: I look like I have one of those costumes on

1808
01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:26,719
Speaker 3: right now.

1809
01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:29,519
Speaker 7: So I don't want to bring the program down, but

1810
01:22:29,720 --> 01:22:32,000
Speaker 7: I just wanted to say, like, condolences to all the

1811
01:22:32,040 --> 01:22:34,920
Speaker 7: Bloody Elbow folks that got laid off, you know, unceremoniously.

1812
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:35,759
Speaker 1: You know, Bloody Elbow.

1813
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:38,120
Speaker 7: You never want to see anybody in the industry lose

1814
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:40,080
Speaker 7: jobs because we're all in the same sport. So I

1815
01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:41,880
Speaker 7: just wanted to draw some attention to that.

1816
01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:45,720
Speaker 2: Thank you for acknowledging them. That's a site that a

1817
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:47,640
Speaker 2: lot of us have gone to over the years. I

1818
01:22:47,680 --> 01:22:50,519
Speaker 2: remember visiting that site really early on in my days

1819
01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:53,240
Speaker 2: covering mixed martial arts, and yeah, it's about the people

1820
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:55,400
Speaker 2: more than anything else, you know, Krookland and everybody else.

1821
01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:57,120
Speaker 2: So shout out to those individuals for sure.

1822
01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 7: So opening line from dc A sportsbook, Burns versus mosviital

1823
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:06,000
Speaker 7: cared to Venture, I guess.

1824
01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:13,599
Speaker 2: I would say, Gilbert Durinho Burns is minus one ninety.

1825
01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:16,680
Speaker 4: Kenny, Yeah, maybe a little minus one seventy five.

1826
01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:18,720
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do the little prices right move.

1827
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:21,479
Speaker 7: What do you go is minus five hundred on DK sports.

1828
01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:28,160
Speaker 7: Whoa get four hundred early line? Damn that no belief

1829
01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:29,040
Speaker 7: in Jorge.

1830
01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 3: So wow.

1831
01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:34,320
Speaker 2: I mean I don't do this for a living. I

1832
01:23:34,439 --> 01:23:39,840
Speaker 2: just don't understand how how Gilbert by virtue of submitting

1833
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:43,719
Speaker 2: Neil Magni is a bigger betting favorite over Mossfeedal than Magni.

1834
01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:45,519
Speaker 2: I mean, Mosfiedal is a Brazilian jiu jitsu.

1835
01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:48,480
Speaker 3: Black belk time off damn.

1836
01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:51,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, layoffs right, and layoffs for sure? And again page

1837
01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:55,960
Speaker 2: when they set a betting line right, Ultimately, they are

1838
01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:58,720
Speaker 2: trying to draw two way action, right, And so if

1839
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:01,719
Speaker 2: people listen to this and think it's blasphemous that Jorge

1840
01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:05,400
Speaker 2: Mosfeedal is plus four hundred, then people in theory would

1841
01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:07,880
Speaker 2: bet that price and that would force the sportsbook to

1842
01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:11,280
Speaker 2: make an adjustment. But right now, seemingly they're getting two

1843
01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:14,280
Speaker 2: way action or not getting a ton of action on

1844
01:24:14,360 --> 01:24:17,519
Speaker 2: Burns at that price. But that is pretty stunning, and

1845
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:19,519
Speaker 2: I actually I thought I was maybe low balling it

1846
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:25,759
Speaker 2: a little bit. But minus five hundred, Wow, yeah, that's nuts.

1847
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:28,360
Speaker 7: Future betting opportunity to make up some points, Kenny, there

1848
01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:31,280
Speaker 7: you go, yeah, right, Ata versus out of Signia too,

1849
01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:34,240
Speaker 7: the odds are out, what do you have that handicapped at.

1850
01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:36,760
Speaker 2: I think we talked about Kenny. We felt like at

1851
01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:40,000
Speaker 2: Aasanni was going to be a slight favorite for that rematch.

1852
01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:42,200
Speaker 2: Maybe minus one forty or so, or at least that

1853
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:43,760
Speaker 2: would be my expectation. I don't know.

1854
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:47,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Peiro will probably come in as a favorite.

1855
01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:56,120
Speaker 4: Maybe geez, let's go with minus one sixty five or something.

1856
01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:59,120
Speaker 2: So before you get in there, right, and I know

1857
01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:02,599
Speaker 2: we got to go, So I think about it. Kenny

1858
01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:04,519
Speaker 2: as the better in me, right, and obviously I can't

1859
01:25:04,520 --> 01:25:06,439
Speaker 2: bet on mixed martial arts. But if there's a plus

1860
01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:10,479
Speaker 2: number next to Attasanya, I think that gets absolutely hammered.

1861
01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:13,000
Speaker 2: So Kenny suggesting that otto sign would be like plus

1862
01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:15,840
Speaker 2: one thirty five or whatever and something like, I think

1863
01:25:15,960 --> 01:25:19,080
Speaker 2: he gets absolutely hammered at that price. What what is it?

1864
01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:24,320
Speaker 7: So today it's Atasignia minus one fifty five against thirty five.

1865
01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:27,519
Speaker 3: Kenny going the game over here?

1866
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:31,200
Speaker 2: Well, I just sometimes if I think about it reciprocally,

1867
01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:33,360
Speaker 2: and I think we'll wait a second, right, like, and

1868
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:35,280
Speaker 2: I don't know which way you would bet that right now?

1869
01:25:35,320 --> 01:25:38,240
Speaker 2: Forced to choose, right, because I don't see as on

1870
01:25:38,360 --> 01:25:40,720
Speaker 2: of value on Izzi at minus one fifty five, but

1871
01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:43,960
Speaker 2: I think it's sensor reason that both guys are better.

1872
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:48,400
Speaker 2: I don't know, interesting dangerous.

1873
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:51,360
Speaker 7: I was just gonna dangerous from Atasignya perspective. I mean,

1874
01:25:51,439 --> 01:25:53,080
Speaker 7: if he goes out there and does a canon ear

1875
01:25:53,080 --> 01:25:54,840
Speaker 7: fight and there's people walking out of the arena, but

1876
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:57,120
Speaker 7: then he gets his title back, it's like, you know,

1877
01:25:58,600 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 7: diminishing returns in a bit of a way.

1878
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:03,200
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I'm excited to see it. I just hope

1879
01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:03,879
Speaker 2: it's in Miami.

1880
01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:04,400
Speaker 1: Okay.

1881
01:26:04,439 --> 01:26:08,040
Speaker 7: So last point is, so, Kenny, you said that your

1882
01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:10,680
Speaker 7: family owns the Sport formerly the Space Center, right and

1883
01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:12,240
Speaker 7: hooks ith.

1884
01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:13,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is the Space.

1885
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:16,080
Speaker 7: It's not block party social that a rebrand it is,

1886
01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:16,360
Speaker 7: all right.

1887
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:17,479
Speaker 3: So that's fifty one.

1888
01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:19,280
Speaker 7: Is the poor a Drive and Hooks it in Hampshire.

1889
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1891
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Speaker 7: you need a fifty speed.

1893
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Speaker 3: Baby hah, it's good.

1894
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good. Oh, all right, coming up this Thursday

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