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Speaker 1: Isaiah Stanback, heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 1: It is Talking Cowboys, presented by Geico, live and in

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Speaker 1: in Frisco. As the twenty twenty one NFL Draft is

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Speaker 1: It's okay, It's okay. We'll get one of these one

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Speaker 1: this should be a fun next hour, So stick with

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Speaker 1: us because we're gonna break down not only the first round,

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Speaker 1: but we're gonna talk about the rest of the draft,

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Speaker 1: what happened on Day two, and then we're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: about even some of these undrafted free agents along the

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Speaker 1: new system here in Frisco. Kyle Yeomen's alongside Rob Phillips,

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Stanback and heck My Harrison, heckm right before we

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Speaker 1: went on are you said you had something to tell us?

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Speaker 1: What is that? Guys? So something happened yesterday that I

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Speaker 1: gotta tell y'all about. Please, Okay, So I'm official celebrity now,

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Speaker 1: won't you to know this? I'm official? Right? We knew

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Speaker 1: time I actually got noticed somewhere, like straight up, I

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Speaker 1: see a BUCkies. So I running to the running to

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Speaker 1: and it's a it's a it's not a one, and

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Speaker 1: standing there and I'm in full loan. Thank you lord,

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Speaker 1: I made it mold and you know, I'm from the hood, Isaiah,

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Speaker 1: and so my spider senses went off, and I'm like, heck,

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Speaker 1: it's a Mexican fellow. He's an eyepatch with the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: star on his eyepatch. He's for the game. He for

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Speaker 1: the game, and he says, he says to me, he says,

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Speaker 1: heckma oh. And you know, hey. Meanwhile at the stall,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, yeah, and then he goes, heck Maharrison.

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Speaker 1: So I'm thinking, dude, this guy's about to hand me

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Speaker 1: a subpoena. Something's going on. I don't know what's after.

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Speaker 1: You know, first of all, I'm in Madisonville. Then this

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Speaker 1: m right, so classic stop heck Maharrison talking cowboys. I said,

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Speaker 1: stand back rock feelings. So I'm standing at the buck.

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Speaker 1: He's taking it's like first I gotta take a picture,

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Speaker 1: ruin my whole story. But I'm telling y'all is just Ramone,

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Speaker 1: My man Ramone. He shout out. I told her to

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Speaker 1: that's all I've been saying. Man, it was awkward, I've

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Speaker 1: you guys are our favorite. So let's go ahead and

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Speaker 1: dive into what you want to listen to. That was hilarious.

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Speaker 1: I love that meet cowboy fans every idea. But I

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Speaker 1: will now but heck, my Harrison the celebrity now here

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Speaker 1: on talking cowboys. Thank goodness. Uh, let's talk about Round

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Speaker 1: one of the NFL Draft, because things went down on

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Speaker 1: the star. Yeah, I think I think he was the

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Speaker 1: But I believe I just was happy that the Will McClay,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, what is your identity? And no one has said, like, look,

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Speaker 1: they made Parsons helps in their regard. If you don't

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Speaker 1: call together. Yes, that is exactly right. We've got Brian

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Speaker 1: you think about the NFL Draft? Brian? How things going. Hey,

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Speaker 1: it's going pretty good and I'm very excited about the draft.

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of surprised they got all defense because I

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Speaker 1: But but I'm very very excited about the draft. Um

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Speaker 1: My question is what you think there will you use

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Speaker 1: the edge for a run stopping, but if they want

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Speaker 1: small but but but speedwise, Um, do you guys think

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Speaker 1: and he reminds me so much of Tyrone Crawford in

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Speaker 1: terms of just a high motor, high character guy that

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Speaker 1: He's probably an inn Kyle, but but he can kick inside. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is this dude is next level strong. The thing

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Speaker 1: to is stopping the run. So I completely agree with Brian.

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Speaker 1: thing about Chauncey Golston that I'm really excited about is

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Speaker 1: hands on people. That's what Golston, does you turn on

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Speaker 1: the film, he's getting hands on people. He may not

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Speaker 1: his hands on opponents in Isaiah, I think that's exactly

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Speaker 1: a good way to say it. Michael Bennett, Tyrone Crawford.

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Speaker 1: Kind of those little hybrid inside outside roles is probably

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Speaker 1: he's one of those versatile defense alignment, right. So I mean,

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Speaker 1: And you know, as you're as you're looking at some

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Speaker 1: quick off the ball, but he comes, he comes with

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Speaker 1: violent intentions when he when he gets there, right, and

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Speaker 1: when you have these guys that are playing defense quote

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Speaker 1: hand in the ground and run around the edge of

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Speaker 1: the tackle. There's in Quinn's system, you're going to see

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Speaker 1: a lot of stunts. He's not gonna just line up

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Speaker 1: going outside. Right, and when those guys come inside hit

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Speaker 1: Their jobs a lot of times are to knock off

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Speaker 1: the guard right, be violent, come off, take one side

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Speaker 1: of the guard, run him down the line, so that

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Speaker 1: you can get your linebackers. Oh, look at their linebackers

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Speaker 1: in the gaps. Right. So as we start talking about somebody,

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Speaker 1: these positional guys understand that nobody's just gonna be lining

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Speaker 1: up and going straight a hit. Yeah. I love. What

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Speaker 1: I love about getting with him. About Chauncey is his bend,

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Speaker 1: you know, his ability to get the adge, set the edge,

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Speaker 1: get around tackles. I thought he was quality and that

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Speaker 1: really again when you go back to the opinions that

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Speaker 1: people had about him as a pick in where other

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Speaker 1: draft sources had him, I thought, again, I just thought

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Speaker 1: he fit perfectly into our as system. You talk about

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Speaker 1: as long arm as you talk about strong hands, all

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Speaker 1: of those things, but his diverse being able to be

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Speaker 1: diversity diversified, to go down to the edge, go down

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Speaker 1: to the five to three, all of those different things

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Speaker 1: that he can do, and also stunting. You know, when

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Speaker 1: you have the athletes that can play every scheme that

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Speaker 1: you want and you don't have to sub guys in

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Speaker 1: and out, and you know, well who they got this

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Speaker 1: guy on the field, So this is what this is.

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Speaker 1: You're not tipping your hand. And I think that's what

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Speaker 1: dan Quinn did in this draft by getting guys that

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Speaker 1: no matter what set you're in and you ask him

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Speaker 1: questions about whether you play a three, four or four

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Speaker 1: or three, being able to give those multiple looks will

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Speaker 1: give your defense the edge that the competitive edge that

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Speaker 1: you need because everybody's scheming up for everybody. Don't think

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Speaker 1: that other teams in the NFC aren't combing through all

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Speaker 1: of dan Quinns defenses to find out what he's gonna do.

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Speaker 1: And it was it was really ironic when he talked

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Speaker 1: about that, you know, about getting better as a play caller,

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Speaker 1: as you know, as a coordinator, and just combing over

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Speaker 1: all of that, getting advice from people. How can I

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Speaker 1: be better because he realizes that the league and offenses

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Speaker 1: are changing. So whether it be a three four look

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Speaker 1: or four three look, either way, you gotta have guys

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Speaker 1: that are multiple and diversified to be able to do that.

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Speaker 1: One of the things that I talked about learning from

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Speaker 1: the other draft show guys who have done this a

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Speaker 1: little bit longer than I have, But they always say,

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Speaker 1: you're watching one guy, another guys sticks out on tape.

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Speaker 1: You should probably circle that guy and come back to him.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly what Chauncey Golston was for me. I was

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Speaker 1: watching dave On Nixon, the d tackle from Iowa, who's

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Speaker 1: running fifty four. I kept being like, Wow, what is

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Speaker 1: his fifty seven doing? What is this fifty seven guy?

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Speaker 1: Because he's in the backfield a lot, You're gonna see

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Speaker 1: him in the backfield a lot. And I do end

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Speaker 1: up enjoying this pick. Brian, thank you for the call.

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Speaker 1: By the way, we got another Brian on the line.

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Speaker 1: This time it's Brian from Vegas. Brian, you're there. How

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Speaker 1: you doing, Fols? What's going on? Man? I just had

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Speaker 1: a couple of comments about the uh the drafts, like

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Speaker 1: your mommy taking too much good time go for it. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know, I was just wondering, you know, how did

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Speaker 1: you how do you guys feel about the Cowboys? And

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Speaker 1: I feel like they should have been a little more aggressive.

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Speaker 1: And forgive me if I sound a little muffled. Safety

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Speaker 1: first I got my mask on here. Yeah, um, I

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Speaker 1: felt like they should have been more aggressive. You know,

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Speaker 1: if you think about any time I think about the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys and extra draft picks, you know, I still can't

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Speaker 1: get over two thousand and I believe two thousand and nine,

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Speaker 1: two thousand and eight draft where they had all those

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Speaker 1: because they kept coming down their first pick und right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: j C Williams, And I just when I thought about it,

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Speaker 1: like he was hoping that they would trade down in

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Speaker 1: New England, and for me personally, I was hoping that too.

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Speaker 1: But I just kept thinking, are thein't really going to

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Speaker 1: do the right thing here? Because I'm a I'm not

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Speaker 1: a fan of just oh, I want to get this

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Speaker 1: type of player because he has long arms. Who cares?

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Speaker 1: Who the hell cares if he has long gorings? But

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Speaker 1: he can't play. And I'm speaking of the pick at

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Speaker 1: ninety nine. What I would have liked to see the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys do with that third round pick. We haven't seen

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Speaker 1: these guys on the field, and I understand that. But

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna, in my opinion, take a third round

637
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: pick on a fifth round player, why not just move

638
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: up and make sure you get your safety. You're gonna

639
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: go up, in my opinion, to get a lesser corner

640
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 1: in what it is rumored to be Tyson Campbell and

641
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: the Jaguar spot. You got the better corner by staying there.

642
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: But it's no secret that they wanted their safety. I

643
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: don't care what Stephen Jones is. I don't believe there

644
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: was going to invest in that safety, you know, because

645
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: it's just like, if you know that that's a guy,

646
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: you can't keep sitting there waiting for him to fall.

647
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: The draft doesn't work that way. You don't get money

648
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: like that every year and just hope that you can

649
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: stand down. You're not the Patriot, You're not Baltimore. Those

650
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: are the only two teams that are lucky like that,

651
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: that are that somebody is just going to fall to

652
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 1: them and it's going to be the right guy. I

653
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: don't have faith in the Cowboys that that's what's going

654
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: to happen. Are you talking I'm sorry, Bran, are you

655
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: talking about moving up in the second round together? Okay, right,

656
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: get your guy. Don't sit there and think that you're

657
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: gonna be able to sit there and think that you're

658
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: going to be able to get to Uh. The America

659
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: is just going to keep falling to you. I would

660
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: have liked to seeing them go get him, even if

661
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: you give up a fourth round pick, because the real Cox,

662
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: in my opinion, the value of drafting him saved their

663
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: draft because to me, I was just sitting there looking like,

664
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: what the heck are they doing. I'm not a fan

665
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: of the Parsons pick. Let's be honest. Parsons to me

666
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: is a sam linebacker that wants four or three speed.

667
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: If he runs four or five, he does, the Cowboys

668
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: don't take him, that's my good point. But he doesn't

669
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: run a four or five. That's that's that's two steps

670
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: a lot of people, it's a lot of people in

671
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: the league that are fast and can't play. Yeah, he

672
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: can't cover. Jabril. Cox falls to the fourth round because

673
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: he's not a good run defender. But Michael Parsons goes

674
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: twelve and he can't cover the pass. To me, you

675
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: sit there, take a Lodger bear of Tucker or the

676
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: kid for the tackle for that winter the Chargers, and

677
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: then you just keep going. But it seemed like they

678
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: were too anxious to fix the defense to where I

679
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: felt like they reached on the player. Well, I appreciate

680
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: the call, Brian, really that's fair, but but it also

681
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: it goes back. It depends on how they're gonna use

682
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons. I don't think they're gonna use him and

683
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: put him in a bunch of spots where he's got

684
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: to cover. Now, I mean, name name five linebackers off

685
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: top that can cover in this I can cover these

686
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: tight ends? Yeah, who can cover these tight ends in

687
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: this league? And where we had to get better was

688
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 1: in the middle of our defense. And guys, and I

689
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: get the too often used word you're reaching on a

690
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 1: guy when you talk about the talent that Parsons has,

691
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 1: that's not a reach. And where you can use him

692
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: in this defense isn't a reach either. So at this point,

693
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: he's a Dallas cowboy. We know exactly what he's going

694
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: to bring. To the table. It's look, we all are

695
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,760
Speaker 1: in a wait and see situation. Again. You could be armchair,

696
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: you know, GM and all of that, but these guys,

697
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 1: this is what they get paid to do. They put

698
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: a grade on these guys, and they had Michael Parsons

699
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: where he needed to be had he not opted out,

700
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: if you know, I think a lot of people would

701
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 1: have had a better assertion of what he could do.

702
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: I just think there every highlight we see is a

703
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: Memphis highlight and you're like, okay, he did that, well,

704
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 1: he blitz well all of that, but very very good

705
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 1: points that you just brought up. In specifically, there's two

706
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: things that I want to kind of address what Brian said.

707
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: First off, saying that Michael Parsons can't play is and

708
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: that's inaccurate. He can ball. I mean, this guy is

709
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: a baller. He's a top he was a top five talent.

710
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: The reason why he went twelve was because of the

711
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: character concerns and because of some of the off the

712
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: field stuff. That's why he fell a little bit longer.

713
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: And that's not even anything that was going to keep

714
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: him out of the top fifteen. You think him opting

715
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: out might have heard too just not character very well.

716
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,919
Speaker 1: Cut back of tape on him. Yeah, this very good point.

717
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 1: I mean, he was a sophomore. He played two years

718
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: basically of either collegiate football. Either way. The boy got

719
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: film that shows he could play. Hell yeah he either way.

720
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 1: He bucks the first first sophomore to everyone, and they

721
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: don't just hand that award. Oh the last time I check,

722
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: and last time I check, they don't. Just they don't.

723
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: Some people like him aren't born, they're created. You know,

724
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: physical specimens. You know, there's there's good players, and then

725
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: there's physical specimens who are who happened to be good

726
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 1: players as well. No doubt you just you don't. You

727
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: don't pass my guys like that. He is a he

728
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: is a top five talent in this draft. He just

729
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: had concerns and question marks around him that that kind

730
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 1: of diminished his draft stock compared to some of the

731
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: other players that were available. Now, the second thing he

732
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: said was talking about being aggressive in the second round

733
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: and going up and getting a Tyson Campbell type of player. Well,

734
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: first off, Tyson Campbell was the first player off the

735
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: board to Jacksonville at thirty three. You weren't going to

736
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: get that pick Jacksonville knew that. At the end of

737
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: round one, they were like, okay, so let's go ahead

738
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: and like put this in. The card was written up

739
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: before they went to bed that night. It was going

740
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: to be Tyson Campbell. You weren't going to get that pick.

741
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: I mean the Cowboys, from what I had heard and

742
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 1: from the rumors that were around the building, they tried

743
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: their best to get back up into the thirties to

744
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: try and go get a safety, Go get a Richie

745
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: Grant or a Trayvon Merrick. I think Marik was really

746
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 1: the biggest target because that was the guy who hit

747
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 1: they had the most interest in. Going into draft night,

748
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: they tried to be aggressive, and Brian brought Us made

749
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: a great point on this during the second day of

750
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: the draft. He said, normally scouts front offices when they

751
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,720
Speaker 1: get a chance to sleep on their board, they usually

752
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,879
Speaker 1: have a guy in mind or two that they don't

753
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: necessarily want to give up. They want they see there.

754
00:36:58,080 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: They get a chance to kind of sit back, look

755
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: around and say, Okay, that guy's there, that guy's there,

756
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 1: that guy's there. I would be cool with any three

757
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: of those guys. It's going to take a premium to

758
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: make me get out of this spot, because I want

759
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: those guys on my draft, especially when you're up at

760
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 1: the top of the second round. Now, there were a

761
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: lot of trades that happened right there, and even that

762
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: shows that there was some premium that had to give up.

763
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 1: You probably wouldn't have gotten away with it with ninety

764
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 1: nine only you would have had to give up a

765
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: next year two or maybe something else to try and

766
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: get up into that roum. Those are great points. The

767
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: other two things I would add is with Kelvin Joseph

768
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,240
Speaker 1: in the second round at cornerback, they knew they needed

769
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: a corner they knew that they couldn't wait too long

770
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: to get that position address after taking Parsons, and he's

771
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: a guy they really liked. And they told us what

772
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 1: they said was even if Mark had been there, Joseph

773
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: was the pick. Now we can debate that, but I know,

774
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: I know, but I do know this. I do know

775
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: that they loved Kelvin Joseph and that was a guy

776
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: they had targeted at forty four because you know, it

777
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 1: kind of like Parsons hadn't played a whole lot of

778
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: college football, but fits that Dan Quinn style of corner big, physical, corner, fast, competitive,

779
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: takes the ball away, takes the ball away a lot.

780
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: And then you know, Brian, the other thing he mentioned

781
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: about he was referencing to Sean right now. Sean right

782
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: at the end of the third round, he said he's

783
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 1: a fifth round player. Cowboys had him rated higher than that,

784
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,879
Speaker 1: maybe third round, probably third round. He was fifth round

785
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 1: to everybody in the media. Yeah, but not. I mean,

786
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 1: you don't know if he would have lasted to the

787
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: fourth round. But Isaiah's talked about it. You know, the

788
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 1: type of player heck two, the type of players that

789
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: dan Quinn likes in the secondary. That's the exact he

790
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: fits it to a team six four and he has

791
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: traits that dan Quinn thinks they can work with and

792
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: makes him a higher value to them than maybe other teams.

793
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: And ultimately that's all that matters. And I'm not comparing

794
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 1: him to Richard Sherman, but just remember Richard Sherman was

795
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: a fifth round pick and nobody thought he could play.

796
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: So I'm not saying he's gonna be that. I'm just

797
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: saying that all that matters is what the Cowboys think,

798
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: and that's what Yeah, And I love his attitude, right away.

799
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: He talked about comparing himself to Richard Sherman and Richard Sherman,

800
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: and it was funny. It's a comparison in the back

801
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: and forth. But a guy comes in and he realizes

802
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 1: what his skill set is and what he's gonna bring

803
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: to the table. Look, everybody understands. It's six four, two

804
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: hundred eleven pounds, a guy that you can put in

805
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 1: zone coverage, a guy that you can even feature in

806
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: the safety position at six to four and can run

807
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: a four four. That means he covers ground. And look, man,

808
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 1: whether you know anything about boxing or not, and you

809
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 1: talk about reach and beat length and all of that.

810
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: Look if I can if I can touch you from

811
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: where I am and your arms can't get to me,

812
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: and it's combat at the line of scrimmage, and that

813
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: makes a difference whether you believe in that or not.

814
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying he's our guy. He's gonna develop into a

815
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: player of special teams player. We had guys like him

816
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 1: in the past. Patrick Watkins six four two fifteen, A

817
00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 1: guy that's long and rangey can make plays. Look, you

818
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: gotta give this guy an opportunity, and there's plenty, there's

819
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 1: plenty that hell's a duck who do so and one

820
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 1: of the things, Kyle, Sorry, I just want to mention

821
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: what Dan Bruger said on the Draft Show. Yeah, we

822
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: love Dane. He's great at what he does. He's a

823
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: class actor. What he said was go study him yourself,

824
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: you know, Like, yeah, I had him as a you

825
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 1: know whatever. It was priority free agent, seventh round pick.

826
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: I've been wrong before. So we're all gonna find out

827
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 1: whether you can play. And I don't know how to

828
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: make people understand this more is so much about scheme

829
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 1: than it is just about overall talent. Yeah, it's so

830
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: much more. There's there's there's a category of player that's like, hey,

831
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 1: this dude is just a he's a talent. We got

832
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 1: to have him, right, We just have to have him

833
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: because they just don't come across athletes like this, Hey Parsons, Right,

834
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: he's he's a beat. So he's not only he's a

835
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: good player, he's a heck of an athlete. Then you

836
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: have guys who's like, guess what, there might be overall

837
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: better players, right when you talk about the holistically, so

838
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: it might be better corners. However, this corner is better

839
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 1: for us because of the capabilities and the attributes that

840
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 1: they have for how we're going to utilize them in

841
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: our system. If they're more physical upfront, maybe they're not

842
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,919
Speaker 1: the greatest of cover guys, but they don't let people

843
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 1: off the ball. Guess what, They're more valuable to us

844
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: than somebody who's just an overall good cover corner. So

845
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: it's not just about Okay, how how is this person rated?

846
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 1: How are they going to be utilized in this system?

847
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 1: And Dan Quinn knows exactly how he's gonna use these guys.

848
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 1: He's done it before, He's done it everywhere he goes,

849
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: and he's gonna do it again here where he knows. Hey,

850
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: these type of players are gonna work great in my system.

851
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: And what I think is very intriguing is the dynamic,

852
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 1: the contingent of cowboy fans that applaud the Jabril Cox

853
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 1: pick but hate the Parsons pick. When you look for

854
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: me for Cox, the the evaluation has been and you

855
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: have it there on your board that week against the run,

856
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: but great in coverage, well, I'm sorry. As a linebacker,

857
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to be able to stop the run

858
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,479
Speaker 1: because that's a part of the job, right, But also

859
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 1: being a cover guy. I've never seen any teams to say,

860
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 1: you know, our linebackers are a great part of our coverage. Yeah,

861
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: you're covering a zone, you're covering flat, deep third. It

862
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 1: wasn't into the Super Bowl that we see the guy

863
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 1: like David cover a tight end, man and man. Now,

864
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 1: that is a particular skill set that you need a

865
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: right But that's just one guy. So going back to

866
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 1: the Sean Wright in the pick at ninety nine, I

867
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 1: don't have a problem with the player they picked. I

868
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 1: have a problem with where they took him. That's my

869
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 1: biggest because you thought he could just because he could

870
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 1: have gotten They could have could have gotten him in

871
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: the fifth round. Now, the Jabrill Cox pick made me

872
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: feel better about it because if they wouldn't have taken

873
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: to Sean Right at ninety nine, I wholeheartedly believe it

874
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,720
Speaker 1: would have been Jabril Cox. So you got him anyways,

875
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: you got your guy you were gonna get in that

876
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 1: spot regardless, So I feel much better about it. But

877
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: in that scenario, at least at the end of day two,

878
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: I went home thinking they mailed it in at ninety

879
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: nine because they had a good pick with Chauncey Golston.

880
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: They had a good pick was Osa diggi Zuoa they

881
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: at ninety nine. It felt like they melted in. That

882
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: was frustrating to me because Na Sean Wrighter came out

883
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: of nowhere and you're like, Okay, he's a good player,

884
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 1: but he's he gonna be a third round I mean,

885
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 1: the pressure that comes with a third round pick is

886
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: immense in its own right. Is he gonna live up

887
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: to that or is he gonna be on the roster

888
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: in two years? That's my biggest question is why did

889
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 1: you decide to use that premium of a pick on

890
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: him when you could have gotten him in the fifth.

891
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,760
Speaker 1: That's where I have my pause. You don't know unless

892
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: they had some intel that other teams liked him. That's

893
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 1: the only thing I can think about. Yeah, Yeah, that's

894
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: the only thing I can really think about. Now, Tom

895
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Speaker 1: Tom for Virginia is on the line. We're gonna hit

896
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Speaker 1: him on the other side of the break. So hang

897
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Speaker 1: on with us. Tom will get to you coming up

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Speaker 1: Hello there, mister heck maher and with the twelfth pick

945
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: in the NFL Draft to Dallas Cowboys, take Michael Parses

946
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: and it sounds like a seventy of my head. WHOA,

947
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:24,959
Speaker 1: that was so good. I heard it twice in my ears.

948
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: I love it all right. We've got Tom from Virginia

949
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: on the line. Tom, how are things going with you

950
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: in cowboy Land? I'm not in cowboy Land. It's America's team.

951
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 1: We're all in cowboy Land. Absolutely? Did I say that?

952
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 1: Every time I have a chance. First and foremost, I

953
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 1: want to thank Teach and every morning off of what

954
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 1: you do, appreciate that you are my life. While I'm

955
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: back to Texas, I grew up in Bay City, and uh,

956
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 1: you know I missed this the seriousness of football. But

957
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 1: you just point out a good thing. Here are They

958
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 1: picked Michael Parsons and the previous caller a couple of

959
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 1: callers back said, you know, why would you pick him

960
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: if you know he's not going to be it's beneficial.

961
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:14,919
Speaker 1: But in Isaiah you can probably attest to this. There's

962
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: people that have a crossover positional training from youth into

963
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 1: high school into college and then pro that if like,

964
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 1: for instance, Michael Parsons was an offensive threat. If you

965
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 1: look back in this field, so I mean he had

966
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: I think twelve almost thirteen hundred George one year is

967
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:42,800
Speaker 1: a offensive you know, backfield and a running back and

968
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 1: you know it's it's one of these things if you

969
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 1: have the physical ability in athleticism to adjust that. It

970
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 1: helps Michael know where that run's going to go. Because

971
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: as a running back, he knew how to follow the block,

972
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: he knew where the guard tackle or whatever, you know,

973
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 1: uh traff they were going to run. You know, he

974
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 1: knew he anticipation that helps him to be more effective

975
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 1: in the rug. But what was our weakest point last year?

976
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 1: Wasn't it stopping the run? Haven't I heard that? Without question?

977
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 1: And I'm going, you know, you can develop people to

978
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 1: you know, you know, anticipate a pass, screen, pass, all

979
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:35,240
Speaker 1: these other things. But you know where I went to school.

980
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 1: And this is crazy. If you wanted to play high

981
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: school football in Base City, Texas, you had to play

982
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,879
Speaker 1: junior high basketball. Yeah, and it was because you had

983
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 1: to learn to end anticipate what is coming and then

984
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: it also helped you follow the ball and who was open. Well,

985
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: thank you very much for the call, Tom and Isaiah. Yeah,

986
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: just kind of attesting to what he said, my Ka Parsons.

987
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: The awareness, the quick trigger, that's something you're gonna have

988
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: to see because on film it was there at times,

989
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: but it wasn't completely consistent. I mean, this is a guy,

990
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: like he said, has been groomed all the way up

991
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 1: to be an NFL linebacker at this point. I mean,

992
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 1: he's just that kind of player. But you've got to

993
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 1: see a little bit of an uptick in terms of

994
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 1: the awareness, in terms of the quick trigger. He has

995
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: it on occasion. But where do you see the biggest

996
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: improvement of that coming from Michael Parsons. Yeah, it's just

997
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 1: coming and getting acclimated to the to the environment, right

998
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: and getting that wisdom from coach Quinn and some of

999
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,800
Speaker 1: the other coaches you know, some of you know, he

1000
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 1: shoot LV and Jalen. You'll be able to speak you know,

1001
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: give him some knowledge as well. I mean, just when

1002
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: you come into the NFL, you're you're fresh, and you

1003
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,800
Speaker 1: don't have an understanding of what it really means that

1004
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 1: most most people don't have an understanding what it means

1005
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 1: to study. They don't really understand film study. They don't

1006
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 1: understand looking for cues and looking for you know, little

1007
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: little little things that give you an edge. Once he

1008
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 1: gets those things and you pair those up with his athleticism,

1009
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:02,479
Speaker 1: which cannot be taught. You can't teach athleticism. You can't

1010
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,879
Speaker 1: teach instincts. You can't teach for three uh, you can't

1011
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 1: teach it. Ability for some of these running backs in

1012
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: this league to be able to hit the edge and

1013
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:10,840
Speaker 1: them not be able to get the edge because this

1014
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: guy can can stay in their hit pocket. You can't

1015
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: teach those things. So when you factor in the ability

1016
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: to his willingness to learn um and you pair that

1017
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 1: up with all those attributes, he's gonna be a problem.

1018
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 1: And not only is he gonna be a problem, that

1019
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: whole unit is gonna be a problem. I wish Sean

1020
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 1: Lee was here for one more year. Yeah, I wish

1021
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 1: there was one more year. If Sean lee or at

1022
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 1: least at least and yeah, organization. But one of the

1023
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 1: things I love about him, and he talks about, you know,

1024
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: having to play basketball before you you know, play up

1025
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 1: at a senior level with his high school I love

1026
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,320
Speaker 1: guys that had to wrestle. If you're a wrestler, that

1027
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 1: means you're a physical you know what. You know that

1028
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 1: in defensive lineman, offensive lineman with that wrestling background and

1029
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 1: what they're able to bring from a physicality standpoint. But

1030
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: you're right, there are certain things that you can't teach

1031
00:50:57,640 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: a guy to do. It's just instinct. It's a nate.

1032
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: He does it naturally right. And his ability to sniff

1033
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,320
Speaker 1: out the run, sprint options, all of those things you

1034
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 1: see it show up on tape. His ability to get

1035
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 1: to the quarterback, he does that consistently. All the things

1036
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: that people say about him, you know, misdirection and things

1037
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: like there are a ton of linebackers in this league

1038
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 1: are in college that will take a wrong step and

1039
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 1: you try and pivot back the other way with a

1040
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 1: three hundred pound person coming down on you. That's a

1041
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:30,320
Speaker 1: lose lose situation, right, and so you study you know it,

1042
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,919
Speaker 1: study wrong, study long and that's the that's the that's

1043
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: the thing that happens to a lot of guys. But

1044
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 1: I think the speed of the game won't be too

1045
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: much for him and those nuanced things that you're talking about, studying,

1046
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 1: studying tendencies, being just a student of the game. I

1047
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 1: think that's what's gonna happen to him here in this

1048
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 1: locker room because dan Quinn's going to demand it. Oh

1049
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: so Diggy Zoo was a wrestler, right, so yeah, yeah,

1050
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 1: Mike is a bowler. I hear he's he's a bowler.

1051
00:51:56,360 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 1: He loves the bull, Isaiah. Yeah, why you take your hand, Parsons.

1052
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: I'm heading this challenge out right now. Welcome you to

1053
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:07,839
Speaker 1: Dallas with a bowl off hit a hit, bump, bump bum.

1054
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: He's already taking down. Oh god, that's interesting challenge. Issued

1055
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: man has five balls, he said, it's five is own

1056
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: that that people know about. We'll let people know about you. Guys.

1057
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 1: Don't want this problem. It's definitely a problem. Cow actually

1058
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 1: be a two handed bowler. Oh, they give him the

1059
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:36,879
Speaker 1: rails side, I get him, just push it down the hill. Yeah,

1060
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 1: failed bowling in college, so I'm never going to play.

1061
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: You know. That's terrible. Yeah. By the way, there is

1062
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 1: some breaking news here on Talking Cowboys, Uh. Sports Day

1063
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 1: reporting that the Cowboys have declined fifth year option on

1064
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: Layton vander Esch's contract. Makes sense. So, I mean, that's

1065
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 1: not officially from the team. That is from sports Day, uh,

1066
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 1: Dallas Morning News. That is actually reported Rob Phillips, don't

1067
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 1: say it. I don't trust it. If well, it's not

1068
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: official yet. But if that's the case, he was gonna

1069
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 1: be set to make nine point two million next year.

1070
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 1: That's you know, for a pandemic cap. That's stuff. That's stuff,

1071
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 1: and then you you draft two linebackers and I don't

1072
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 1: I would not rule out him coming back beyond twenty

1073
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: twenty one, but you know, that's that's a move that

1074
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 1: you kind of thought Mike was was coming, you know,

1075
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 1: just because of their cap situation. So we'll see what happens.

1076
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 1: It was kind of, at least especially after the Michael

1077
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 1: Partson's pick, it seemed like that was going to be

1078
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 1: a foregone conclusion of maybe declining that. We'll see if

1079
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 1: it is official along the way. Yeah, can I say

1080
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 1: one other thing about Parsons the sample size. You could

1081
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 1: look at that two ways, like he hasn't played a

1082
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: lot of college football, you know, one year starter at

1083
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: Penn State. Now you can say, ah, we haven't seen

1084
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:49,879
Speaker 1: enough of him. Could also say, from like you guys said,

1085
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: from diagnosing plays and instincts and all that, let him

1086
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: play some more football, you know, let him get out

1087
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 1: there and with the coaching and just have more experience.

1088
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 1: And maybe he's going to develop into more of that

1089
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: from the coverage standpoint, because he's got the speed, he's

1090
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 1: got the range to go sideline to sideline. So I

1091
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 1: wouldn't rule out like him getting better, you know. I mean,

1092
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 1: that's the whole point of this thing is to draft

1093
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: him and coach him up, you know, and they've got

1094
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 1: a stout, proven staff under Dan Quinn. They can do that.

1095
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 1: I'm I'm excited, but I'm also super nervous to see

1096
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 1: what his year one contributes are because of an opt out,

1097
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 1: because of how young he was, because of the low

1098
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 1: mileage in terms of a first year. I would be great.

1099
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 1: I'd be totally fine with that. That'd be great. I'd

1100
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,879
Speaker 1: be excited. He's gonna play a lot, you know, will

1101
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 1: play a lot. Joseph, their second round pick, hasn't played

1102
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: a lot either, and there's you know why he left

1103
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,879
Speaker 1: LSU and didn't finish season in Kentucky. Now that jumps

1104
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 1: out at you, right, But that's another guy who's young

1105
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:49,399
Speaker 1: and hasn't played a lot, and you're thinking the best

1106
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: might be ahead of him too, with with coaching and

1107
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 1: more time on the field. So you can look at

1108
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 1: it one of two ways. What was the biggest surprise

1109
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 1: for you guys in the draft or what the Cowboys?

1110
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:02,919
Speaker 1: With the Cowboys draft the ninety nine pick? For me, really, yeah,

1111
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 1: that was mine. That was my biggest surprise. And I'm

1112
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: only saying that because from people who really study it

1113
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 1: were just shocked that he was taken as early as

1114
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: he was right was taken. Yeah, the reaction, the reaction

1115
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 1: was kind of like, did they get this wrong? Because

1116
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 1: everybody turning the wrong car? What happened? Because everybody like

1117
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 1: turned over furniture when they came in. So I agree,

1118
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 1: But what was your biggest surprise? That was another surprise him.

1119
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 1: I like them too, but I didn't. I didn't. I

1120
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 1: know they're gonna try to address offensiveline, which they did,

1121
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:38,399
Speaker 1: defensive line, which they did, but I did not see

1122
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 1: them spinning a fifth on a receiver. I didn't see

1123
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:43,399
Speaker 1: that coming, really, I thought it would see it coming.

1124
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 1: I thought it was the perfect spot for them to

1125
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: look at the receiver, just to add competition. Yeah, at

1126
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:49,320
Speaker 1: the back end maybe. No. I don't disagree with the

1127
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 1: fact that they got a receiver, but just I thought

1128
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 1: they would have solidified those other positions first. I mean,

1129
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 1: I know we we got it on the back end,

1130
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 1: but I mean, you're right, they took a receiver before

1131
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 1: they took a detail, which is my favorite pick by

1132
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 1: the way. Yeah, and then we'll see how it pans out.

1133
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 1: That's a log jam at that position. But then yeah,

1134
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: and then they take the corner that's gonna a guard

1135
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 1: and a corner that's gonna transition to safety apparently before

1136
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 1: the receiver, after the receiver. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That also

1137
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 1: has to bring up the gut Bohannon man. Yeah, whoa,

1138
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,359
Speaker 1: that's that's my that's a big give me, big old man,

1139
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 1: give me three fifty in the middle. The term trash

1140
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 1: can full of dirt was thrown around quite a bit

1141
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 1: on the Draft Show because that's just what he is.

1142
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 1: He's a space space eater. What's my favorite Walmart parking poll? Oh,

1143
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:35,439
Speaker 1: that's a good one. I love it when you said

1144
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,760
Speaker 1: he he said that one time in a lacrosse broadcast

1145
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 1: and almost fell over. So it's not guy's not moving

1146
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 1: and that's what we need. We need a guy that

1147
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,240
Speaker 1: could take on the double team and can push the pocket.

1148
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 1: We didn't have that last year. And you know that's

1149
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 1: what makes the difference when you talk about your linebackers

1150
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 1: being able to being free to roam and you get

1151
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 1: eight defensive guys in this draft. I think what it

1152
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 1: did is it put everybody on notice on this team

1153
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 1: and that's why you see the decisions coming down like that.

1154
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 1: And so God lighting the fire. Yeah, look how big

1155
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 1: he is. He's got some swag to him too. He

1156
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 1: can some way. You're exactly right. You said eight draft

1157
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 1: picks on the defensive side. Somebody tweeted me right after

1158
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: the draft is over and said, who's who's safe on

1159
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 1: this defense? And it ain't safe. My answer was My

1160
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 1: answer was tank. But that was it. I was like,

1161
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,959
Speaker 1: outside of that, that's it. Competition breeds breeds a better team.

1162
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 1: Yeah right, I mean this defensive line, this defensive line

1163
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 1: room now is full. I mean they have, like, is

1164
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 1: Tristan Hill guaranteed to be on this roster that twenty

1165
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 1: defensive tackles. It seems like, yeah, it ain't was fun,

1166
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 1: good problem to have. Hannah's fun defensive and it's kind

1167
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 1: of yeah, it's not. No one is safe. And I

1168
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: think that's indicative of the results that you had last year.

1169
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 1: If you went into this draft and you got eight

1170
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 1: offensive guys, I think you'll be like, what is going on?

1171
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 1: We have to get this defense better. So you put

1172
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 1: guys on notice and say that's not gonna work. That

1173
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 1: effort won't work. It doesn't out if it's Mike Nolan,

1174
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 1: Dick Buckus, I don't care who you have it defensive coordinator.

1175
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to come and perform next year. And look,

1176
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 1: I'm waiting. OTA's two of days are gonna be fun. Okay,

1177
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 1: it is gonna be a lot of fun. Now let's

1178
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 1: go ahead. I know we're heading into summer break pretty much,

1179
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 1: but let's give out some report cards on what you

1180
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 1: think the draft was. Now, I will say in preface this,

1181
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 1: I'm not usually the biggest fan of draft grades, just

1182
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 1: because you have to wait three years to figure out

1183
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 1: what the draft's actually gonna look like. But based off

1184
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 1: of what you saw and what you've studied and what

1185
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 1: you've seen going into this draft? What would you gray

1186
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 1: the Cowboys? As Isaiah will start you start with you first.

1187
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 1: I give it a minus. I like it a lot.

1188
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 1: I think we addressed every hole that we had every

1189
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 1: whole day we I mean aside from safety, which I

1190
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 1: think we obviously got that with some offseason acquisitions. Washington,

1191
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 1: Chris Apple, yeah as an Apple, Ye, mister Jones here,

1192
00:58:56,440 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 1: and maybe maybe Israel is going to be a safety

1193
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 1: that competes for time. I don't know, he's with cornerback traits.

1194
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 1: I like it. I also think they feel it also

1195
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 1: sent me a little bit of a message that they

1196
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:14,959
Speaker 1: feel good about Kauze and when he could bring Quinn guy. Yeah,

1197
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 1: he's healthy, he's he's gonna play a rotter. Yeah, I'm

1198
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 1: going to a mindus also yeah an Yeah, A minus

1199
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 1: and I and the only way the only reason why

1200
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 1: I'm not saying a plus is because they didn't get

1201
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 1: a safety. Yeah, that's the all. That's the only because

1202
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 1: I felt like that was the place that we needed

1203
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 1: to go. But I'm not so heard about them not

1204
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 1: getting one that I'm like, oh god, you know, I

1205
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 1: still feel like you know, the the free agency approach,

1206
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 1: that's still gonna be guys that are gonna be cut

1207
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 1: from other rosters. So again, if you shore up the

1208
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 1: that that front line and your linebackers are there, man,

1209
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 1: you have a little bit of leniency on the back end,

1210
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 1: I'll go B Plus. I love the approach. I love

1211
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 1: I mean I said it just draft defense over and

1212
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 1: over and over again. I love of that. I mentioned

1213
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 1: off the field. You know, fourth round Josh Ball, their

1214
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 1: offensive tackle. There's off the field questions there now looking

1215
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 1: they said they did their homework and they feel good

1216
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 1: about it, so you gotta trust that. Um. But other

1217
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 1: than that, I mean, I just it's not I'm not

1218
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 1: comparing it to the OZ five draft because that changed

1219
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 1: the scope of their defense with a future Hall of

1220
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 1: Famer and guys that really became Pro Bowl guys. But

1221
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 1: that's what it reminded me of, Like we have a

1222
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 1: new coordinator, we're going to kind of a new scheme.

1223
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 1: We're just gonna hammer this thing over and over and

1224
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 1: over again. I like what they did. I like it

1225
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 1: a lot. That's gonna do it for it now. I'm

1226
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 1: just kidding, uh hours on the show. C Plus is

1227
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 1: what I give it. I think it was a good

1228
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 1: draft because you did, you filled those holes. It had

1229
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 1: a chance to be a great draft. And I think

1230
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 1: there were a couple of spots that slipped through the

1231
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 1: cracks a little bit, just in the fact of one

1232
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 1: you didn't get a safety. I really wanted a safety early,

1233
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 1: and I much like uh I forgot. I think it

1234
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 1: was the second Brian. I think it was Brian from

1235
01:00:58,320 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 1: Vegas that said it like you wanted them to be

1236
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 1: a grad if I wanted them to be aggressive too.

1237
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 1: I know they tried, but they didn't get through and

1238
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 1: they didn't make the pick. Because if you would have

1239
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 1: come out with this draft with Parsons and then let's

1240
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 1: say like a Richie Grant or a Trayvon marrig or

1241
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 1: you come out and then you go and get one

1242
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 1: of those corners later on and you still have Jabril Cox,

1243
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 1: that's an a draft for me. I mean, that's a

1244
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 1: really really good draft. You probably lose two to three

1245
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 1: players that you have right now. You probably would, but

1246
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 1: I mean you also spent the ninety ninth pick on

1247
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 1: a fifth round guy that you probably could have gotten there.

1248
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 1: So opinion, I'm in my opinion you're right, but that's

1249
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 1: what my opinion is. It's a C plus draft. There's

1250
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 1: there are places it could have been better, but there

1251
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 1: are replaces that it's good and I ended up liking it.

1252
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 1: They did kind of speak to that though, why they

1253
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 1: didn't trade, because I'm with you, I'm kind of surprised

1254
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 1: they didn't do that. Yeah, it's Stephen keeps referencing the

1255
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 1: cap in that we need cheap players to step in

1256
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 1: and maybe push guys off the roster. Or he even

1257
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 1: referenced not specific positions, but maybe you get the training

1258
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 1: camp in preseason, maybe there's some trade opportunities. You know,

1259
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 1: because you're so deep at certain spots that requires you

1260
01:01:58,080 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 1: to feel great about young guys being able to step

1261
01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 1: in play. But they seem confident. You know, they've got

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Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator coming in who knows what he knows

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Speaker 1: what he wants and they're gonna try to plug holes quickly. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think out of this draft, I like the Parsons pick.

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Speaker 1: I like the Joseph pick. Both of those have question

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Speaker 1: marks around him. I love the Gholston pick. I'm a

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Speaker 1: big fan of the Odgy zoo A pick. Didn't really

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Speaker 1: like the Nishan right, but that could that could come back,

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Speaker 1: and I've been wrong before. And then I loved the

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Speaker 1: Jabril Cox in the semi Phooco picks, so like it's

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Speaker 1: kind of all over the place for me overall, I

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Speaker 1: thought I liked it or I did, Like, that's not

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Speaker 1: even passing in grad school. Yeah, I'd give it a

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Speaker 1: C plus plus with a chance to get up there

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Speaker 1: and b a B if they if they didn't get

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Speaker 1: a show out it, maybe see some snaps. It's the

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Speaker 1: right pick. That one just bothers you. That bothers brought

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Speaker 1: us hw brought us done. Man, Oh it was done

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Speaker 1: even off the show. I mean he was. He was

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Speaker 1: so mad it was. He takes it personally because he's

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Speaker 1: a former out and he had some fun with it.

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Speaker 1: But we had some fun today. How about that. We've

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Speaker 1: got a new draft class. We've got eleven new Cowboys

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Speaker 1: we get to talk about throughout the course of the

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Speaker 1: offseason and heading into the twenty one campaign. And I'm

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Speaker 1: sure we'll talk about plenty of these guys for some

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Speaker 1: time to come. But until next week. For Chris Beam

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Speaker 1: in the back, for Rob Phillips, Isaiah stand back and

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Speaker 1: heck my Harrison. I'm Kyle Yeoman saying so long from

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Speaker 1: the SWBC Mortgage Studios. We'll see you next week on

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Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys

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