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Speaker 2: You are listening to episode two hundred and fifty of Hurdle,

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Speaker 2: a willness focused podcast where we talk to inspirational people

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Speaker 1: Toughest moments to essential tips on.

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Speaker 2: How to live a healthier, happier, more motivated life.

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Speaker 1: We all go through our fair share of hurdles.

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Speaker 2: My goal through these discussions is to empower you to

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Speaker 2: Today episode two fifty talking to Lydia Keating. She's a runner,

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Speaker 2: And that is something that I will say. And it's

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Speaker 2: body saying please don't do this to me. Yeah, No

436
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,119
Speaker 2: matter how hard it is to listen to that, it

437
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,439
Speaker 2: is saying it for a reason.

438
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:25,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. Period.

439
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, So knowing that you were feeling, albeit not the

440
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 2: same way as if you were to get this news

441
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 2: right now, but frustrated and scared considering that this impacted

442
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:40,640
Speaker 2: your livelihood, Yeah, how did you segue from that victim

443
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 2: mindset to getting to a place where you were a

444
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 2: little bit more willing to accept your circumstance.

445
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,199
Speaker 1: For me, my relationship with running and fitness and it,

446
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,920
Speaker 1: to be fair, has shifted since the injury, but I

447
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,199
Speaker 1: have always felt like, gosh, so I hate that I

448
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,920
Speaker 1: have the type of brain that needs this like daily

449
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 1: pump of endorphins to operate normally. Like I'm like, it

450
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 1: must be so nice for someone to just move about

451
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 1: the world without having to like need exercise. I you know,

452
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 1: I think probably everyone could benefit from exercise, whether they

453
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,399
Speaker 1: have a normal But I've been very open about like,

454
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,159
Speaker 1: you know, some of my struggles with mental health, and

455
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 1: I just am someone who needs that, you know, pump

456
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 1: of endorphins from movement every day or at least six

457
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 1: days a week. Yeah. So when I got this news

458
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 1: that I literally was not allowed to pursue any type

459
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:37,640
Speaker 1: of movement that could give me that regular pump, it

460
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:42,199
Speaker 1: was kind of like, Okay, this pressure I put on

461
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 1: myself to take care of myself in that specific way

462
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 1: every day aka movement is no longer an option. So

463
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,959
Speaker 1: now I have all this time freed up. And at

464
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,160
Speaker 1: the time, I was working on a novel, which I'm

465
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 1: no longer working on. But I was like, let me

466
00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 1: try and dedicate this all of a sudden, big app

467
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 1: of free time I'll have every day working on creative

468
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,439
Speaker 1: projects that always feel like they take not the fully

469
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,439
Speaker 1: the back burner, but the middle burner, because for me,

470
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 1: end of the day, priority will always be get the

471
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 1: workout in. Yeah. I think that was a little bit

472
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,439
Speaker 1: naive of me to think, like, Okay, here's the shift,

473
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 1: Like I can't work out, I'm going to now dedicate

474
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 1: all of that to creative time because the end of

475
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 1: the day, it's true that not working out sometimes made

476
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,400
Speaker 1: me less creative, less productive, because I did go into

477
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 1: a bit of a gray slump. But I think the

478
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,880
Speaker 1: story of telling myself, hey, now, don't view it as

479
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: like you can't do this, view it as all this

480
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 1: time has opened up for you was a helpful thing

481
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,360
Speaker 1: I kept returning to, even if in practice it wasn't

482
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:45,399
Speaker 1: quite as simple as that.

483
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 2: If that makes sense, Yeah, but even getting to a

484
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,639
Speaker 2: place where you can at least attempt to adopt that

485
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,640
Speaker 2: mindset is something that takes.

486
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 1: Many a lot of time.

487
00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, So to at least recommend that to you yourself,

488
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 2: to be negotiating with that inner voice and say, okay,

489
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,199
Speaker 2: maybe you're not fully on board with the idea that

490
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,159
Speaker 2: this is happening for me, but I know that I

491
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 2: can make the best of this time.

492
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Speaker 1: I think that's really impressive. Yeah, well, thank you, I mean.

493
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 1: And also I think the finding developing a new routine

494
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: to fit into the new parameters of my lifestyle was helpful.

495
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 1: So I would go to a coffee shop that was

496
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 1: very close walking distance, so you know, barely a walk,

497
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: and that's where I would try and get some writing

498
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 1: done in the morning. And it was like a place

499
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:33,880
Speaker 1: to go a reason to get out of the house.

500
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 1: Like those little hacks helped me a bit through the

501
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:39,399
Speaker 1: healing process. Yeah.

502
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 2: I like the idea of setting up some sort of

503
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 2: a new schedule or a new routine for yourself. And again,

504
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 2: you have to get to a place where you're willing

505
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 2: to let go of the things that you can't control.

506
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 2: And that doesn't mean that there's not going to be

507
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 2: feelings that's around that, yeah, frustration, anger, et cetera. But

508
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 2: understanding that holding on and harboring those feelings isn't doing

509
00:25:58,920 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 2: anything for you.

510
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 1: I found that that.

511
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 2: Was the first step to me personally moving forward. It

512
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 2: also is important to feel those feelings as well. Yeah, right,

513
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 2: you have to go through the period of mourning. You

514
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 2: have to go through the period of allowing yourself to

515
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 2: experience that disappointment you don't work hard at something for

516
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 2: it not to go as you'd hoped. Yeah, and knowing

517
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 2: that movement is such an integral piece to your everyday puzzle.

518
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 2: There's going to be sadness that comes with being told

519
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:30,919
Speaker 2: that you can't do what you want to do.

520
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,880
Speaker 1: There was another part of it that and I think

521
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 1: this is like really coming from like toxic college athletics

522
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 1: where like, even though I had an MRI that was like,

523
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 1: you know, show had the imaging of a stress fracture

524
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 1: and you know it was irrefutable, I still felt like

525
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:53,919
Speaker 1: I had to like almost perform disappoint Like I was

526
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 1: so truly disappointed, but then I felt like I had

527
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 1: to perform the disappointment a little bit almost. I think

528
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 1: probably because I'm like, my career is so public facing,

529
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: and I think that a big part of the healing

530
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 1: journey was like letting go of that a little bit, like, oh,

531
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: I'm allowed to be happy and like, even though this

532
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 1: is disappointing, if you know, and this doesn't have I

533
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: don't have to view my current self like last year.

534
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: The current injured self is like the version of lydia

535
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: that can't be the best version of lydia. I can

536
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,719
Speaker 1: still be the best version of lydia with what I

537
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 1: have now and with like what I'm capable of now.

538
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 2: It reminds me of that all it takes is all

539
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 2: you've got, But what you have on different days is

540
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 2: going to be different, just like what you have in

541
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 2: different seasons to offer is going to be different, and

542
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 2: you're in a different space. As we talk about the

543
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 2: marathon this month, and you were at this time last year,

544
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 2: and I mean obviously at the beginning of twenty twenty

545
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 2: four when you experienced that injury. Yeah, talk to me

546
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 2: about the comeback for you. You mentioned that about five

547
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 2: and a half six months later after that January one,

548
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 2: what is going on here? You were finally experimenting with

549
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 2: some walk running. I know that you told me that

550
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 2: your ideal split is about four days running two days lifting.

551
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, So at first, what did that come back look like?

552
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,120
Speaker 1: Throughout pretty much all of the summer, I was doing

553
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: very very light running. By by the end of the summer,

554
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: by like August, I could comfortably go on a three

555
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 1: mile run and I had that kind of confidence in

556
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 1: my body back then, I was like, Okay, I can

557
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: do this. And then come September, I wanted to start

558
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: following a sort of training plan. But this is where

559
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: I was having that kind of like insecure moment of like,

560
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: what does the training plan even like look like? You know,

561
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: I thought I knew what it looked like to to

562
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: get fitter, but now I'm worried if I make the

563
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: wrong move, you know, I'm back at square one. Yeah,

564
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: So that's when I reached out to Ned and asked,

565
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: like I you know, he was very he was privy

566
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: to my situation because I had tried to work with

567
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: him at the beginning of twenty twenty four when the

568
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: injury started and we couldn't do any work together. So

569
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: he crafted a training plan that was super super light,

570
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 1: but it was just something to get me back into

571
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: the rhythm of you know, following a plan, having a

572
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 1: schedule that like slowly and incrementally is subtly getting you

573
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: know a little bit you know, bigger and bigger and bigger. Yeah.

574
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: And it's it's crazy to look back on like September

575
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: to now because I every week maybe got like one

576
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: mile longer, like really really minor, and now I'm you know,

577
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: running like this week will be a fifty mile week

578
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: for me, which for I know, people run much bigger weeks,

579
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: but that's a for me, that's a lot of mileage,

580
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: a lot of mileage. Lie. Yeah, yeah, And I didn't

581
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: like that's been such a subtle change. And it really

582
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: is a lesson in how if you want to see

583
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 1: big changes in yourself, you just make small, small changes

584
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: every day, every week, and that it adds up and

585
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: I I feel so different, and I like look different,

586
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: and I can like, you know, I've been getting so

587
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: many people have been giving me like this doesn't sound

588
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: like I'm shooting my own horn, but just like compliments

589
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 1: of like, oh, you look so healthy, and it doesn't

590
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: feel like they're like commenting on my body in like

591
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: a gross toxic way, but like I think that I

592
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 1: just feel like I've transformed. But it's been a transformation

593
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: that has been like you know, many many months.

594
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 2: You know what's interesting on the you look so healthy note.

595
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 2: I think that when you get to a place where

596
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 2: you feel really good and confident and strong in your body,

597
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 2: it radiates in so many bigger ways than just your physicality.

598
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 2: And so your look is bigger than your actual like

599
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 2: definition of the word look. It's the way that you present,

600
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 2: the way that you show up, the way that you

601
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 2: are now engaging with your audience. They can see this

602
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 2: excitement within you. Yeah, and I think that's really contagious

603
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 2: and really beautiful thing. And I really love what you

604
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 2: touched on talking about the buildup of this training plan

605
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 2: rate knowing that you didn't want to add on too

606
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 2: much too soon, which can be a really big faux

607
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 2: paus coming back from injury. Conventionally, the wisdom is that

608
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 2: adding no more than ten percent overall each week. So

609
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 2: if we put that into context, if you're someone who

610
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 2: is going out and running a five k once a

611
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 2: week and you want to suddenly increase your mileage, then okay,

612
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 2: ten percent of a five k is zero point three

613
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 2: one miles. So now you're only running at most three

614
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 2: point five the next week and then maybe almost four

615
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 2: the week after that, right, And it takes time, especially

616
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 2: when you're starting from zero.

617
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: Ten percent of zero isn't a lot. Yeah, Yeah, so

618
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: you have to.

619
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 2: Slowly incrementally build. And it sounds like that that's something

620
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 2: that worked really well for you. Yeah, worked super well.

621
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: And I mean I also want to just like mention

622
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,959
Speaker 1: something that I kind of from earlier, where part of

623
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: the injury and being injured is like accepting this, this

624
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: is what you have right now, and your body is

625
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: healing and you're gonna look and you're gonna feel different.

626
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: And I feel like letting go of expectations of what

627
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: I should look like and what I should feel like

628
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: was a huge part of that recovery process and it

629
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: has allowed me to go into this training block, which

630
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: has now been you know, many months long without any

631
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: of those shoulds, because I feel very just like we're

632
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: kind of exploring what's ahead.

633
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634
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636
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638
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639
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,560
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640
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 2: not getting at least eight hours a night. But what

641
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 2: I am now dialed into is getting the best quality sleep.

642
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 2: It's not just about the amount of time that you

643
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 2: spend in bed, but the quality of that time. And

644
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 2: when you think about how to up that quality, your

645
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 2: pillow can make a major difference. This is the thing

646
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 2: that you lay your head on for eight hours a night,

647
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 2: and if it's not exactly right for you, it can

648
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 2: lead to endless tossing and turning, or worse, waking up

649
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 2: with that super annoying kink in your neck every morning.

650
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: I have been there. I know that you have been there.

651
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 2: Let me tell you that cank no longer a thing

652
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:42,840
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00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 2: talked about the concern that you had with getting injured

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Speaker 2: and impacting the way that you work, the content that

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Speaker 2: you created.

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Speaker 1: What happened with that? Yeah, I was a little bit

703
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 1: candidly in between a rock and a hard place because

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Speaker 1: I did have certain like deliverables I had to continue

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Speaker 1: delivering on with specifically Running brand that I love, and

706
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: they were very very understanding. Let me make that clear,

707
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 1: Like they were not like no one was mad at

708
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:07,919
Speaker 1: me for being injured. If anything, I was the most

709
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 1: mad at myself. But I still had to make Running

710
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: related content, so I kind of got creative with it.

711
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if you feel this way as someone

712
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: who puts themselves online in this like realm of fitness,

713
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: but sometimes you just don't want to put your body

714
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Speaker 1: on the internet. And I think as I was, you know,

715
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: feeling less and less confident in my body. And I

716
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,879
Speaker 1: know this is like contradicting what I was just saying

717
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: about like acceptance, but hey, you can accept and still

718
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: some days wake up and be like, I really just

719
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Speaker 1: don't want to put a video of myself doing my

720
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Speaker 1: physical therapy online right now because I know I don't

721
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Speaker 1: look the way I did a year ago or something

722
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: like that. So that was something I really struggled with

723
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Speaker 1: where I didn't want to put my body online. And

724
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Speaker 1: even though I the type of content I could realistically

725
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: make was like in re recovery content, which is still

726
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,280
Speaker 1: like running adjacent, even though I wasn't actively running, I

727
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: had like an apprehension to to to do any sort

728
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Speaker 1: of fitness content because I wasn't feeling I wasn't feeling

729
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Speaker 1: fit and I wasn't feeling like an athlete. But I did, like,

730
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Speaker 1: for example, I went to Eugene Ore again for Olympic trials,

731
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 1: and that was more like making content about what Olympic

732
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Speaker 1: trials are and hyping up you know, professional track, which

733
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Speaker 1: luckily has nothing to do with me and my body,

734
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Speaker 1: you know, so there was like there are ways to

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Speaker 1: make content around running that had like where I don't

736
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Speaker 1: have to stand in a front in a spandex in

737
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Speaker 1: a sports bra in front of my phone, you know,

738
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: talking about this, that and the other. So yeah, there

739
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 1: are either's just there were little creative ways. Sometimes I

740
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: kind of had to fudget a little bit. And like

741
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Speaker 1: if there was a shoe that came out that you know,

742
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Speaker 1: they wanted content around. Like once I got to a

743
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Speaker 1: point in my injury where I could take a couple

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Speaker 1: jogging step, like where I was doing the thirty seconds

745
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Speaker 1: of jogging four minutes of walking, and I had to

746
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Speaker 1: make running content. I would make content as if I

747
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Speaker 1: was on a run. And I don't know if this

748
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: sounds misleading, but I had to highlight the shoe and

749
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Speaker 1: so yeah, I wasn't going on a three mile run straight,

750
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: but I was going on a walk run where I

751
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Speaker 1: did a little.

752
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Speaker 2: I think that that's also so relatable though, right, we

753
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 2: talked so often about this concept that perfection isn't relatable,

754
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 2: vulnerability is relatable. And so although I hate to hear

755
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 2: that there were moments that you felt uncomfortable in your body,

756
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 2: that is the human experience. There were points during my

757
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 2: injury come back that I not only didn't want to

758
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Speaker 2: show up on camera in my body, I didn't want

759
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 2: to show up anywhere in my body. I stopped going

760
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 2: to certain things because I didn't want to have my

761
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 2: photo taken in put somewhere that I didn't have any

762
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Speaker 2: control over.

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Speaker 1: Totally. I felt so.

764
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 2: Dialed in to controlling the controllable, and there was so

765
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 2: much that felt like was bigger than me, and so

766
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 2: by being strict on my boundaries, it at least made

767
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Speaker 2: me feel like I had the upper hand somewhere.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's so fair. I think if I

769
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Speaker 1: could go back and like tell injured Lydia any advice,

770
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 1: it would be like your life and who you are

771
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: is not on pause right now, Like I think sometimes

772
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Speaker 1: I fell into that mental trap of like, Okay, I'm

773
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Speaker 1: I'm healing, I'm in my healing era, and this is

774
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Speaker 1: just going to be a blip in like the if

775
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: my life is a continuous line, it's just going to

776
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Speaker 1: be this little gap and then life continues. And that's

777
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Speaker 1: not true. Right Like life was going I was living

778
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Speaker 1: like those are days in my life, and I wish

779
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Speaker 1: I hadn't kind of felt like I was almost like

780
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Speaker 1: hibernating and I was gonna come out of this like,

781
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Speaker 1: you know, a beautiful butterfly, which o ky I do

782
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: kind of feel like a beautiful butterfly now, but like

783
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 1: I was, I wish I could go back and tell

784
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 1: injured Lydia like you are, like right now, you are enough,

785
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: and like you don't have to feel like you're on

786
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: pause right now. You can live and it's okay, entirely relate.

787
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Speaker 2: And it also speaks back to what we were talking

788
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 2: about about how you told yourself like there are other

789
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 2: things that I can do right now, but there is

790
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 2: still some level of frustration and like, but these creative

791
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 2: things don't excite me as much as this other thing

792
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 2: that I really want to be doing. When you can

793
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 2: get to a place where you do some of the

794
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 2: work and have a little bit of grace with yourself

795
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,399
Speaker 2: and understand that although it's not what you want, it

796
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 2: can be happening for you, it's a really beautiful place

797
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 2: to be, but it's not an easy one to get to, period.

798
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 2: And so I believe that we have these opportunities that

799
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 2: are disguised as hurdles to teach us who it is

800
00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 2: that we are foundationally at our core and then help

801
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 2: us progress through the challenging moments as they arise as

802
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 2: we continue on. Right, So I can say wholeheartedly that

803
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 2: between the abdomen injury that I sustain that made me

804
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 2: forego the twenty twenty one London Marathon, and then the

805
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 2: years of dealing with nagging planter fasciitis, I have so

806
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 2: much of a better grip on reality and what these

807
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 2: setbacks do for me. Now as I move forward and

808
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 2: I go through challenging moments, I think I survived all

809
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 2: the challenging moments that got me up to this point,

810
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Speaker 2: and I can survive the ones that are up ahead

811
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Speaker 2: of my path.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's beautiful, And like how it just has

813
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: made you this resilient person to your point though and

814
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: to your resiliency, it has done that for you, and

815
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 1: it also instills in you eventually a sense of confidence,

816
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 1: feeling like this beautiful butterfly.

817
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Speaker 2: Because, as you said, you were talking about the good

818
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 2: runs and the bad runs, and on both of them

819
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,280
Speaker 2: you think about the injury.

820
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: Yeah right, Yeah, you go back to.

821
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 2: This place reflecting on the experience that you had, and

822
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 2: it's a period or it's an experience that's rooted in gratitude.

823
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 2: It's not an experience rooted in fear. But you only

824
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 2: get to appreciate it from a gratitude perspective once you

825
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,760
Speaker 2: put in the work to understand that this thing happened

826
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Speaker 2: so that you could be where you are right now.

827
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And I think, like, obviously it's possible to

828
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: be grateful for Like if anyone's listening who's never been injured,

829
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Speaker 1: I truly believe that, Like you can go for a

830
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Speaker 1: run and practice gratitude and feel that gratitude deeply without

831
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: having had this history of being deprived of running. But

832
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: I do think that going through a period of time

833
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: where you couldn't run does make that gratitude almost instinctual,

834
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Speaker 1: Like what I talk about, like when I'm on my

835
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Speaker 1: long runs, like I'm not actively being like be grateful Lydia.

836
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Speaker 1: It just comes so naturally because I know how Lydia,

837
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: only you know, three hundred days ago, would have just

838
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: killed to be where I am now. So it basically

839
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Speaker 1: makes that gratitude more effortless.

840
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Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you a wild statistic. Between thirty

841
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Speaker 2: seven and fifty six percent of runner's experience and injury annually. Wow,

842
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Speaker 2: I know that's how I reacted when I first read

843
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 2: this statistic. I'll cite this and i'll cite it in

844
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Speaker 2: the show notes, so you can check out this paper.

845
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Speaker 2: But it really shed some light on how so many

846
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 2: of us feel that when it happens, you are so alone.

847
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Speaker 2: And I'll covey out this by saying that there is

848
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Speaker 2: a wide spectrum of running injuries. So a running injury

849
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Speaker 2: could be something like plant fasciitis, or it could be

850
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 2: a sacral stress fracture, right Like, there's a very wide

851
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 2: spectrum of what runners can navigate. But there are so

852
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 2: many people that are either running through something or working

853
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 2: with something. And so for anyone who's listening to this

854
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,439
Speaker 2: who has gone through a period where they have felt,

855
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 2: as we have felt super alone. Super Like everyone gets

856
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 2: to do this and I don't get to do this.

857
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 2: Know that you're not alone. I understand that it's kind

858
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 2: of part of the process. I feel like, especially as

859
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 2: we get older, now there's so much more that I

860
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 2: have to be cognizant of that I didn't necessarily need

861
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 2: to think about when I was in my twenties.

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00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, now i'd be curious to know, when you are.

863
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Speaker 2: Doing this work, you have your four days a week

864
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 2: of running, your two days a week of strength training.

865
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Speaker 2: What else is a part of the routines that you

866
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Speaker 2: can make sure that you're taking care of you in

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Speaker 2: your body and doing what you can to negate injury.

868
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: Moving forward, Yeah, I have gotten very serious about my sleep.

869
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,760
Speaker 1: I think I look back on, you know, the period

870
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: of time that led up to the injury, and I

871
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: think one of the factors really was not getting enough sleep,

872
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: and kind of it was coming from this place of

873
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: wanting to be hyper productive. And so even if I

874
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 1: was going to bed at midnight, still setting my alarm

875
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: for you know, six, because I was like, oh, I

876
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 1: got to get up. And I've always had this tension.

877
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 1: This is a bit of a tangent, but I've always

878
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: had this tension of my most creative hours are from

879
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: like six am to eleven am. But those are also

880
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: the hours when I have my most focused workouts. So like,

881
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: what do I prioritize the creativity or the working out?

882
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: And I was like, well, if I get up early enough,

883
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 1: I could do both, you know, I could get the

884
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 1: workout in and the creative time and the result of

885
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: that was sacrificing my sleep. So that's something I'm prioritizing

886
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: a lot. I always have had a pretty balanced and

887
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 1: diverse diet, but I think I just think about it

888
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 1: a little more like if I'm hungry for a snack

889
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, I could have cheese or an apple,

890
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 1: I feel like I often reach for the cheese now

891
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 1: because I'm like, I'm going to getting that calcium. I

892
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,959
Speaker 1: really think just the consistency, like, never in my life

893
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: will I do the BS thing that I was doing

894
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: at the time of Oh, I missed four of my runs,

895
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 1: but I'm just gonna like do a fifteen mile er

896
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: this weekend because this is where I should be on

897
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,399
Speaker 1: the marathon training plan, even though I haven't done any

898
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 1: of the income mental build up to that letting.

899
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 2: Go of should Yeah, how did your community receive I know,

900
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 2: we doubling back to what you were saying about creating

901
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 2: content in a different way and then that slow onboard

902
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,879
Speaker 2: back to where things were before you got injured. How

903
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 2: did the community receive your injury and how did that

904
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 2: ultimately impact you as a content creator?

905
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,399
Speaker 1: I when I like formally announced it, I would say

906
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 1: I got so many dms about people also in the

907
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: middle of injuries, people who had recovered from injuries. So

908
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: I remember that day where I like I cause I

909
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 1: kind of kept it under wraps for a little bit

910
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 1: because I wasn't really sure how I wanted to present this,

911
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 1: Like did I want to hide it? Which wasn't the

912
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 1: right move, but like, you know, that did cross my mind.

913
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: Do I just like kind of pretend to all as

914
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,760
Speaker 1: well and not mention this. So I got an influx

915
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:57,280
Speaker 1: of people, you know, sharing their issues with injury, and

916
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 1: and that's all great because there's a bonding period. And

917
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: I I did end up writing an article for Off magazine,

918
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: which is on publication about injury, and part of that

919
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 1: I interviewed some people in my community who were going

920
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 1: through injury, and that was a nice way of like

921
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: actually connecting with people in my community. But end of

922
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: the day that was only like three girls. And so

923
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 1: I do think that there were chapters to it. Like

924
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 1: the initial announcement, I felt like not alone at all.

925
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, my gosh, hundreds of people are

926
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 1: experiencing it's not a sacred stress fracture, but they're experiencing

927
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 1: this injury and they feel isolated too. And then a

928
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 1: couple of days go by, and then a couple of

929
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:38,760
Speaker 1: weeks go by, and ultimately it did impact my content

930
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: in a way that like I wasn't. I clearly wasn't

931
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 1: super happy, and I really have a hard time presenting

932
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: as happy on the internet when I'm actually not. And

933
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: so I think I mean not to be like talking

934
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 1: engagements or stuff. But I do think over like last year,

935
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: my engagement was low because I wasn't. I think people

936
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: follow me maybe to feel inspired to run to to

937
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 1: maybe get them at the door. I know for me,

938
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 1: I have creators who when I'm not feeling motivated, I

939
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 1: go to their Instagram and I watch a couple of

940
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 1: their running videos. I'm like, Okay, let's go, let's run.

941
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: And maybe I was that for some people, and so

942
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: I clearly stopped being that, and so it was it

943
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 1: was not a great year in terms of how my

944
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: content did.

945
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 2: Either, someone comes to your page and maybe that is

946
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,399
Speaker 2: what they see, someone that is getting out the door,

947
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 2: that is running, that is bringing color to their experience.

948
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 2: But when you look in the mirror, Lydia, what is

949
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 2: it that you see looking at you now or then

950
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 2: whatever you want now?

951
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 1: I do see like someone who I'm such a positive

952
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: feedback loop girl. So this is like partly why seeing

953
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: like the games actually manifest as like faster times feeling

954
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: strong that like when I see that, I'm further motivated.

955
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: So right now I feel I'm in the middle of

956
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 1: this positive feedback loop. And so when I look in

957
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: the mirror, I do see someone who inspires me and

958
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: someone I'm proud of, but that's not a constant, Like

959
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 1: I don't always feel that way about myself. How did

960
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 1: you feel when you were in the thick of the injury.

961
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: I definitely struggle with like not speaking kindly to myself,

962
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: so I felt I definitely felt a fear like this

963
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 1: is the thing about injury. I also think you feel

964
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 1: like this when you're sick, when you're hungover. You're like,

965
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: I'm never not going to feel this way, Like it's

966
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 1: so hard to fathom not being in this low or

967
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 1: less than state. So I think when I looked in

968
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 1: the mirror, I had troubles imagining a version of myself

969
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 1: that could ever be fully healthy again and ever be

970
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: like an athlete again.

971
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 2: What does success look like for you right now? And

972
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 2: I ask this multifaceted Yeah, I want to know what

973
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 2: success looks like for you right now in the context

974
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 2: of your career, and how it feels like for you

975
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 2: in the context of your career, and then I want

976
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 2: to talk about what success looks like for you when

977
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 2: we get to the London Marathon finish line. So let's

978
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 2: start about it in the context of your career.

979
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: Emily, that's a great question. I've been thinking a lot

980
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: about it myself. I think for me, success looks like

981
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 1: being able to take care of myself. I don't need

982
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: to be like rich rich, but just being able to

983
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 1: take care of myself and feel like financially safe. I

984
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 1: think that's like one pillar of what success looks like

985
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 1: for me. I also think it looks like fine figuring

986
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 1: out a way to blend my two passions, which really

987
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 1: are running and writing and and oh gosh, it's like

988
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: the most cringe buzzy word but in storytelling, you know.

989
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 1: And I have some ideas for how I am. Yeah,

990
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: there's some ideas that are percolating that I'm really excited

991
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 1: about kind of embarking on in the next couple months.

992
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 1: But whether that be writing a collection of essays that

993
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 1: are kind of in this template of the races I've

994
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 1: run or my running journey over my twenties, I'm not sure,

995
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 1: but finding a blend of those two, yeah, that's what

996
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: success looks like. And then also feeling deeply connected to

997
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: a community, and whether that be a community of runners

998
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 1: or a community of who knows, but I think just

999
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 1: feeling like I belong that also is what success looks like.

1000
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 1: And helping people in a way and any any way

1001
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 1: I can. But figuring out, like exactly where are my

1002
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: strong suits? And helping people.

1003
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 2: I really resonate with wanting to feel like you are

1004
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:29,280
Speaker 2: doing good. I really resonate with wanting to be involved

1005
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:33,320
Speaker 2: in community. I'll never forget the one time that I

1006
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 2: read something negative about myself on the Internet and then

1007
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 2: I never went looking for it, and again, good for

1008
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:42,320
Speaker 2: the comment was I can't believe that Emily Body actually

1009
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:43,800
Speaker 2: thinks that she's helping people.

1010
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

1011
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 2: And I know that the right people that are in

1012
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,359
Speaker 2: my community, that keep coming back to Hurdle, that keep

1013
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 2: coming back to my little corner of the Internet, they're

1014
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 2: here because they leave that regardless of your platform, we

1015
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 2: each have the opportunity to help one another. And so

1016
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 2: that is something that really resonates within the context and

1017
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 2: through lines of your story as well, because I think

1018
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 2: about the struggles that you had coming back from injury

1019
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,760
Speaker 2: and not feeling like your brightest, shiniest, most confident self.

1020
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 2: But even that Lydia, the one that you now can

1021
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 2: say in retrospect, had so much value just as she was.

1022
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 2: Even that Lydia could help so many people, and so

1023
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 2: I think about that. But yes, I really resonate with

1024
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 2: your through lines of community and wanted to do good

1025
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 2: in this world. And I love how you speak so

1026
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 2: beautifully about how it is that you want to feel

1027
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 2: when we think about success. I also really resonate with

1028
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 2: some semblance of financial freedom. I think that that as

1029
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:50,840
Speaker 2: like a big come and through lining goal for so

1030
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 2: many when we think about success in terms of the

1031
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 2: London Marathon, how do you want to feel?

1032
00:53:56,239 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: I want to feel out of breath. I want to

1033
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 1: feel ideally like not, you know, pain free and you

1034
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 1: know the nuance of what you're talking about. I know

1035
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 1: I'm going to be in pain because I'm going to

1036
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 1: go for it, but I'm not like as in not

1037
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 1: the type of pain where you know it's the alarms

1038
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 1: going off like this, I shouldn't be feeling this ideally, Like,

1039
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 1: on a pragmatic level, I want to feel like I

1040
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 1: finished stronger than I started. I love that. I don't

1041
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 1: want to fly and die, and I want to feel proud.

1042
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 1: But I know I will feel proud crossing that finish line,

1043
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: whether I meet my goal or whether I fly or die,

1044
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:36,280
Speaker 1: Like I know I'll feel proud.

1045
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 2: I think that's something else that injury has really instilled

1046
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 2: in me is having such a grand appreciation for the journey.

1047
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:49,280
Speaker 2: I do hard things like sign up for these silly

1048
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 2: little reasons because of the journey to get to the race.

1049
00:54:55,880 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 2: Injury reminded me of the opportunity that's within the journey,

1050
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 2: because if I just wanted to show up to a race,

1051
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 2: I could show up to a race, but then I'd

1052
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 2: probably end up with a sacrel stress fracture. If I'm

1053
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 2: not training for the race, you.

1054
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:13,399
Speaker 1: Would actually can't confirm confirmed, probably won't work out well.

1055
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 2: So there is just something so beautiful and something that

1056
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 2: you clearly mesh with, vibe with, understand in the process

1057
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,320
Speaker 2: and what it does holistically for the rest of my life.

1058
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 1: And that is why I continue to show up. Yeah,

1059
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:32,839
Speaker 1: I love what you said. About like, you sign up

1060
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,479
Speaker 1: for these races not because the race itself will be hard,

1061
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: but because the journey getting there and like committing to

1062
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 1: being able to fully show up, that will be the

1063
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 1: hard part. And I think about this so much with

1064
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 1: how many people sign up for spring races, and what

1065
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 1: that really means in practice is like just getting through

1066
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 1: the dog days of.

1067
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 2: Winter, the dog days. I was running through the wind

1068
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 2: this morning. Oh my girl. It was the first time,

1069
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 2: honestly in a long time that I was like in

1070
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 2: the middle of a rap and I thought to myself, like.

1071
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 1: What if it's like this on Sunday? Just keep going?

1072
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 1: And then I was like, this is awful. Yeah, this

1073
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 1: is awful.

1074
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 2: But all these awful moments, all these difficult moments, all

1075
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 2: of the moments that remind you that you're human, they

1076
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 2: happen for you so that you can keep doing the

1077
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 2: hard ones as they come.

1078
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:18,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, totally.

1079
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,439
Speaker 2: Well, I'm so happy that we were able to wrap

1080
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 2: about this a bit. I know what's on the horizon

1081
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 2: for you after this? What's your next pick goal?

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Speaker 1: After London? My goal is to get super strong and

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Speaker 1: yoked through the summer and the fall, and then dream, dream,

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Speaker 1: dream race would be Tokyo in twenty twenty six. I

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Speaker 1: love that for you, and I hope to like approach

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Speaker 1: it with a similar like super consistent running schedule, but

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Speaker 1: like coming from the base of muscle that I plan

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Speaker 1: to build over the summer. In this fall, I hope

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Speaker 1: like I'll even see, you know, bigger strides. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: kind of on honestly, like this, I'm feeling motivated by numbers,

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Speaker 1: which has never been an experience I've had with running.

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Speaker 1: So as long as that's still bringing me joy, I'm

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Speaker 1: going to keep doing that until and if it gets stressful,

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Speaker 1: then I'm just going to go back to having fun

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Speaker 1: but in a safe way.

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Speaker 2: A complete random side tangent before I let you go,

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Speaker 2: But I have to ask you about this as you

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Speaker 2: sit here with me. When did you know with content

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Speaker 2: creation that it was enough for you to do it

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Speaker 2: full time?

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Speaker 1: Gosh, that's a good question. So I started doing content

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Speaker 1: when I was living at my parents' house, so I

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Speaker 1: was living rent free but making content money for like

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Speaker 1: a year and a half. I probably wouldn't have been

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Speaker 1: able to live in my own apartment in New York

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Speaker 1: for that first year and a half where I was

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Speaker 1: making money from content, but not enough probably to sustain myself.

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Speaker 1: But I was saving a ton. It was probably like

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Speaker 1: two years into the content career where like the consistency

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Speaker 1: of brand offers was coming in enough. But I'm now

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Speaker 1: at a phase where I'm like, I need to diversify

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Speaker 1: my income sources because I don't want to be I

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Speaker 1: don't want to be relying on offers only to sustain myself,

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Speaker 1: Like I need to have also weighs like more reliable

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Speaker 1: ways because the market, you know, we're with the new administration.

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Speaker 1: You never know what's going to happen with what these

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Speaker 1: brands are willing to spend, and I don't want to

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Speaker 1: be at the whim of brands only totally understandable.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so was the looming TikTok band something that

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Speaker 2: like really hammered that in for you.

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Speaker 1: Actually, I was kind of feeling a big sigh of

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Speaker 1: relief with the TikTok ban, even though it's the platform

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Speaker 1: where I have like one point something million followers, and

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Speaker 1: it's it is the platform where I got my start.

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Speaker 1: I fundamentally believe TikTok and I experienced this as like

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Speaker 1: a user that it's not good for the collective. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think it like does something to our brains that

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Speaker 1: these other apps don't quite do. I mean, like you

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00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 1: can fully get in a doom scroll on Instagram, but

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Speaker 1: it's different. So for me, it was a relief of like,

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Speaker 1: I think this is better for everyone. If I take

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Speaker 1: a financial hit, I'll find a way okay, like all

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Speaker 1: will be well. And then when it freaking came back,

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Speaker 1: I was like what, I was like, waite a minute,

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Speaker 1: but I it's so funny.

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Speaker 2: I don't think any other creator with one point something

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Speaker 2: million followers.

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Speaker 1: Is like, well I can be kind of be okay

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Speaker 1: without TikTok. Well, my engagement's pretty low on TikTok. So

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Speaker 1: there was another like selfish part of a relief of like, okay,

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Speaker 1: well I can just kind of finally part ways with

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00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 1: that and in a way like it's no longer going

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Speaker 1: to be a stress of like oh why or why

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00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 1: aren't my tiktoks performing as they used to? So there

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00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 1: was another part of me was like just one last

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00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 1: less platform to worry about in an era where I'm

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Speaker 1: like do I do YouTube shorts? Do I do this?

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Speaker 1: Do I do that? I'm like just focus on one yeah. Wow.

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Speaker 2: So many intricacies that go with being an online content creator.

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Speaker 1: Seriously, I don't know if anyone cares about them, but

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00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 1: it's fun to talk to you with someone who gets

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Speaker 1: it well.

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Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's just so impressive to

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Speaker 2: see what it is that you've built. It's so interesting

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00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 2: always to hear different perspectives on what's working, what's not working,

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Speaker 2: How someone even with a following of your size, can

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Speaker 2: be like, my engagement isn't popping off like it used to. Uh,

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Speaker 2: And I do believe that it is three these moments

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Speaker 2: where we have opened and honest conversations like this. Again,

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01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 2: perfection isn't relatable, vulnerability is relatable, and there are people

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Speaker 2: that are striving to do what it is that you

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Speaker 2: do on your quote unquote bad days, right, and so

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Speaker 2: to have a voice and to be someone that people

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Speaker 2: can look to as this relatable figure, I think it's

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Speaker 2: such a great opportunity and it's so impressive what you've

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Speaker 2: built for yourself.

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Speaker 1: Thanks, Emily. I feel so blessed to be having a

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Speaker 1: conversation with you about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my girl, before I let you go, Yes, right now,

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Speaker 2: you have an opportunity to offer yourself a piece of

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Speaker 2: Advice on February fourteenth, twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Knowing what you know now, I would tell her, you're

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Speaker 1: going to need to rest for the next couple months,

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Speaker 1: and that's okay, And there will be some days where

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Speaker 1: it's harder, and there will be some days where maybe

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01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 1: you're a little relieved that you get to rest, but

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Speaker 1: you will get through this and you will come out

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Speaker 1: the other end stronger.

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Speaker 2: So just be patient, Just be patient. Lydia, where do

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Speaker 2: they find you on the platforms?

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Speaker 1: Give us your info? Okay, well, after I just shot

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Speaker 1: on my TikTok, don't follow me there, but it is

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Speaker 1: Lydia L one two one. My Instagram is where I

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Speaker 1: am most you know, putting out most of my content,

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Speaker 1: and that's lydia LU one two. My substack is lydia keating,

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Speaker 1: and then the substack is called daddy storlax I don't

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Speaker 1: know why and yeah, and then my YouTube is lydia

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Speaker 1: keating and all.

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Speaker 2: Of this will be linked in the show notes. I'm

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Speaker 2: over at Emily a Body and at Hurdle Podcast Another

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Speaker 2: Hurdle Conquered. Catch you guys next time.