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Speaker 2: Week seven of the books give us a Monday night

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Speaker 2: doubleheader which we dive into, plus some of the fallout

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Speaker 2: from the new Faces in New Places. Get Mike at Swollendome.

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Speaker 2: You can find me at Dan Byer on Box. Ian

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Speaker 2: Roddy as our executive producer, you can find him at

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Speaker 2: Ian Roddy Underscore. And it's funny, Mike, because Ian and

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Speaker 2: I were talking just prior to the podcast as your

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Speaker 2: step out of the studio, and Ian said to me

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Speaker 2: one good game on Monday Night and one bad one.

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Speaker 2: And I didn't know which one he was talking about,

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Speaker 2: because I think he could make a case for both

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Speaker 2: of them in both of those scenarios. But that's what

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Speaker 2: we got in week seven's doubleheader.

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Speaker 3: No, and that's it, right, It was a blowout until

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Speaker 3: it wasn't. When we were talking about the Ravens and

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Speaker 3: the Buccaneers, Buccaneers being plucky in the comeback effort in

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Speaker 3: the fourth quarter. And we'll get into the particulars in

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Speaker 3: a second. But the other game, Look, if it's close late,

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Speaker 3: that constitutes a good game, right, or at least that's

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Speaker 3: what I'm told, even if it's like watching paint dry.

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Speaker 2: For I'm gonna need to clarify because I still am

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Speaker 2: not sure exactly what we were I want to hunt sutt.

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Speaker 4: I won one hundred percent. Was talking about the Ravens game,

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Speaker 4: just the high scoring points, So that was what you were.

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Speaker 3: Just excited about the over Okay.

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Speaker 5: Sure, I don't. I don't know. So the low points

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Speaker 5: didn't do it for me in the other one.

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Speaker 2: So the Ravens Buccaneers game was your good one for

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Speaker 2: Monday night.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, let's not call it one of the

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Speaker 2: No, no, but at least it had some fantasy.

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Speaker 3: Relevent not a fan of Dicker the Kicker, Huh.

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Speaker 2: I'm not a fan of those skyboxes they tried to

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Speaker 2: put into the end zone. If you've seen that. I

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Speaker 2: think we got a few looks at it because of

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Speaker 2: the field goals. But Arizona that open end where they

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Speaker 2: wheel in the field, They've really not been able to

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Speaker 2: do anything with it, and so it's just that open

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Speaker 2: ended part of the field. And they put like these skyboxes,

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Speaker 2: these club seats, but they're not big at all, so

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Speaker 2: it doesn't take up any room. Just so weird.

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Speaker 3: And their uniforms sucked.

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Speaker 2: Didn't like the black one.

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Speaker 3: I don't like the black ones. It doesn't pop for me. Sure,

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Speaker 3: you got so many other color combinations that work, and

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Speaker 3: I get it. Black uniform it's it's an easy sell

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Speaker 3: it's you know, fits into any wardrobe nice and easily.

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Speaker 2: I'm not as offended as much by the Cardinals as

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Speaker 2: I am, say when Ian's Jets wear them. You didn't

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Speaker 2: like those, No, I didn't like them.

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Speaker 4: I mean they're not even in the wardrobe anymore. That Yeah,

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Speaker 4: they changed to the throwbacks, but actually that was one

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Speaker 5: I didn't like the green ones when they had those.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not I'm not a fan with the overuse

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Speaker 2: that they wore in Brazil are just atrocious. But anyway,

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Speaker 2: I digress. At least the Chargers looked good.

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Speaker 3: justin Herbert throws for three forty nine the Jalen riger

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Speaker 3: Like all of that to say, there was your opportunity otherwise, Uh,

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Speaker 3: the World Series. They've got no closer in the red zone,

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Speaker 2: Listen, I'm you know, I'm not a huge Harball fan,

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Speaker 3: No reclamation project that he took from his brother. Ye, Hey,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just tough when you've got a defense that's

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Speaker 3: You got a kickers all worldwide. Fifty nine was the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I had to plan this week because of just

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Speaker 3: Yeah, injuries and buys. Yeah, he'll find his way there,

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Speaker 2: You can never question James Connor. He is fricking amazing. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm curious about them, Mike, because we saw them get

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Speaker 2: You know, you had the run against the nine Ers,

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Speaker 2: But not everybody is feeding like you kind of thought

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Speaker 3: This year, Ellen McBride was limited and you expect I

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Speaker 3: didn't expect a massive game given the opponent, but I

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Speaker 3: think he finished with what five points for the night?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, which five on fifty one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So you know, PPR leagues get you, get you

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Speaker 3: a little bit of juice, but overall, you know, not

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Speaker 3: In PPR leagues, you know that that will get you

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Speaker 3: a solid effort, but not to you know, the the

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Speaker 3: heights that we we'd anticipated coming into the year. Harrison

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Speaker 3: Junior coming back off the concussion, You're you're hoping, if

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Speaker 3: nothing else, you're gonna pile up some receptions and then

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Speaker 3: Wilson you know, has popped up once or twice on

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Speaker 3: is really uh, it's a lost art, Dan. I mean,

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Speaker 3: we've got very few guys that we get to watch

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Speaker 2: We transition from the good game to the bad game,

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Speaker 2: Buccaneers seventy two points overall scored in the game. The

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Speaker 2: Ravens obviously jump out to the huge lead. Buccaneers try

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Speaker 2: enormous price because Chris Godwin with a dislocated ankle, Mike

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you start looking around, going all right, where are

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Speaker 3: So this does he get relegated to in a red

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Speaker 3: where we're headed? And for Godwin, you know, he just

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Speaker 3: he's depending free agent. Dislocated ankle was the initial discussion

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Speaker 3: big chips are already falling off the board in terms

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Speaker 3: trios receivers out of the backfield. So you know, Tampa

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Speaker 3: Bay becomes one of those potential buyers in the next

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Speaker 3: week and a half trying to figure out where there's

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Speaker 2: There's two ways you can look at this. With the Buccaneers.

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Speaker 2: You can say, well, the Saints and Panthers really don't

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Speaker 2: have to beat the Falcons. But that is also then

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Speaker 2: be in shorthanded. I mean, it's one thing to lose

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Speaker 2: I still think Tampa it's gonna be Tampa or Atlanta

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Speaker 2: interesting spot for the Buccaneers to be in because who

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Speaker 3: No, And that's that's where it gets into like there's

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Speaker 3: For ESPN Plus, we watch a lot of college soccer,

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Speaker 2: I understand Amazon saying, hey, we're gonna have this Black

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it didn't even seem like it was a

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Speaker 2: If Monday Night didn't entertain you, I'm not sure Sunday

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Speaker 2: new quarterback with the Pittsburgh Steelers. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: it was a great night, Mike, for Russell Wilson and Pittsburgh,

430
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,040
Speaker 2: but it was a pretty good night. Got off to

431
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,000
Speaker 2: a slow start, but did seem to give the Steelers

432
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,399
Speaker 2: a little bit more of a passing game than what

433
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Speaker 2: Justin Fields did. I don't know if the jets in

434
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,879
Speaker 2: capabilities played into all of this, but how did you

435
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 2: take the Sunday n out of fair When we look

436
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 2: at the Jets and Steelers.

437
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,400
Speaker 3: It's funny because early on the returns were I even

438
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 3: put it out, they you know, Russell Wilson, they wanted

439
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,639
Speaker 3: him gone. The sea was angry, my friend, using the

440
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:21,879
Speaker 3: old George Costanza and when he was a marine biologist,

441
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 3: go look at But the the idea that was the

442
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,680
Speaker 3: you know, got got to get my early nineties sitcom

443
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,200
Speaker 3: reference in early. So there it is for the mark

444
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,919
Speaker 3: the tape, but just the idea of you know, he

445
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 3: was worm burning a couple of balls, leaving some out

446
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 3: and not really getting the receivers where they needed to be.

447
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:48,359
Speaker 3: Now he was the benefactor. Beneficiary would be the better

448
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,679
Speaker 3: word of the fact that George Pickens had a lot

449
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,479
Speaker 3: of ill will towards him for lack of effort, getting

450
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,439
Speaker 3: called out all over the place, the fact that he

451
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,679
Speaker 3: leaked the fact that Russell Wilson was going to be starting.

452
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,640
Speaker 3: I'm sure he got on as chewing from Mike Tomlin

453
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 3: after that, especially after Mike tom Wood had said, ah,

454
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 3: you know, we know in house, we'll keep that close

455
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 3: to the vest.

456
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:08,120
Speaker 2: Not at all.

457
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 3: Hey, it's work. Working with Russ is great, you know,

458
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,360
Speaker 3: since it's gonna be his first start and all, it's

459
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 3: like yeah, no, probably not the best thing. So he

460
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 3: gave his best effort. And the one thing Russell Wilson does,

461
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,920
Speaker 3: and I think they really did the overkill to try

462
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:25,199
Speaker 3: to lather up the love for Russell Wilson was he

463
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,679
Speaker 3: puts He puts the ball up in the air like

464
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,119
Speaker 3: justin fields, tries to cut through the air and maybe

465
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 3: throw it through defenders at times think that it's gonna

466
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 3: find your hands. Yeah, Russ puts the ball up and

467
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 3: lets you go make a play. And you saw Pickens

468
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:42,120
Speaker 3: making plays for balls downfield. You saw that catch from Friarmouth,

469
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,400
Speaker 3: which was about as good a catch and effort as

470
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 3: you're gonna see. So that was the difference to me. Right,

471
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 3: you got the run, game got going, and the fact

472
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Speaker 3: that you know on the other side for the Jets

473
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Speaker 3: and Ian you could speak to this maybe better than

474
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Speaker 3: I do. Uh, you fired the guy that are orchestrated

475
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 3: the defense. The defense looked pedestrian and got run over,

476
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 3: which was the Achilles heel. And then all of a

477
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,679
Speaker 3: sudden you can lobby in a couple of deep balls

478
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 3: and stretch it. Never mind the fact that you worked

479
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 3: on short fields due to some of the inconsistencies to

480
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 3: be kind of the Jets offense.

481
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Speaker 2: Jets were a rough look. I don't know if Ian's

482
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 2: just still sulking over it or not. But again, going

483
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 2: to the point that we had last week, when you

484
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 2: fire Robert Salah, everybody else now takes on added work

485
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:38,879
Speaker 2: or work that they weren't accustomed to doing. Now Jeff

486
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 2: Ulbrich has got to be the head coach, not running

487
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 2: the defense. Now. It's how doubting is taking over the

488
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 2: offense instead of just being the passing game coordinator. Nathaniel

489
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,400
Speaker 2: Hackett doesn't have any power to do anything. The removal

490
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 2: of Sala as the head coach just did not make

491
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,639
Speaker 2: any sense. And now to your point of yeah, you

492
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Speaker 2: elevate the defensive coordinator like these are some of the

493
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 2: things that I think that you can see when you

494
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 2: do something like that. Now you throw in DeVante Adams

495
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 2: to the crew. And we know how Aaron Rodgers in

496
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 2: DeVante Adams relationship is. We have been talking about it

497
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 2: since the day Aaron Rodgers heck became a Jet. So

498
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 2: now you have even less accountability with the coaches to

499
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,640
Speaker 2: be able to do something, and you're giving Rogers even

500
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Speaker 2: more power it's just it's such a mess. It is

501
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 2: an absolute bunch of gobblygook, if you will, nicely doing

502
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 2: Breece Hall having the night that he did was maybe

503
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 2: the best thing for the Jets. But you're like, we

504
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,199
Speaker 2: gave away a third round pick for three catches and

505
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 2: thirty yards and sure some things may have opened up

506
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 2: for Garrett Wilson at some point, but you're two and

507
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 2: five right now, So it's just I don't get it.

508
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,160
Speaker 3: Hey, Adams didn't make a hell of a tackle though.

509
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 5: Touchdown saving tackle after interception.

510
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Speaker 2: Ian Are you are you less enthused about your Jets

511
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 2: after that Sunday Night Affairracy? Yeah, I'm a lot.

512
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,919
Speaker 4: I'm a lot less enthusied because that was, like, that

513
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 4: was a must win game. They're two and four now,

514
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 4: like the season yeah, worse, worse, worse, Yeah, thanks Dan, Yeah,

515
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 4: two and five, So it's like they have to go.

516
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 5: Pretty much perfect the rest of the way.

517
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 4: You're you're able to drop a game here or there potentially,

518
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 4: but at this point, like you need to the fact

519
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,199
Speaker 4: that you've dropped games against teams like the Broncos, you

520
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 4: now have to win extra ones that you you know,

521
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 4: quote unquote weren't supposed to win in the past, they're

522
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 4: just flat Like the Steelers were a team that they

523
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 4: were supposed to win and they didn't. They got rolled over,

524
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 4: and it felt like after the Rogers interception, it was

525
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,400
Speaker 4: like the whole team just gave up. And and that's

526
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Speaker 4: I don't know if it's a coaching thing, what Johnson

527
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 4: needs to sell the team is My main takeaway coming

528
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 4: out of it is that he is so reactionary. Like

529
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 4: what you said about the solid thing is spot on, Dan,

530
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Speaker 4: It's like he he obviously wasn't a perfect coach or

531
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 4: maybe you know, maybe not even a good coach. But

532
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 4: but in being so reactionary firing him so early on

533
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 4: in the season, you you took the energy out of

534
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,679
Speaker 4: the entire locker room. What is there for anyone to

535
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 4: be excited about?

536
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 5: Now?

537
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 3: Sure, well he already took the power away, right, I mean,

538
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 3: Joe Douglas is basically acting at the behest of of

539
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 4: Yes, but but it makes me wonder, like I really

541
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 4: don't know that that Rogers had much of a say

542
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 4: in the Sola firing. Now now that we've kind of

543
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 4: seen all this this play out, Like I really think

544
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 4: that it might have just been the media being like,

545
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 4: you know, Rogers hates Sla he wants him out.

546
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 2: I'll put it this way, if Rogers wanted Sola there,

547
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 2: he'd still be.

548
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 4: He'd still be there, right, right, right, So he didn't

549
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,919
Speaker 4: make a conscious effort to keep him there. But I

550
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 4: also think it's a little overblown that he hated Sala

551
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 4: and wanted to.

552
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 3: No, no, nobody, nobody's saying it's a hate. It doesn't help.

553
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 2: I actually think.

554
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 5: People were saying that.

555
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 4: But but he but the point is he yeah, I

556
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 4: don't know, you know what I mean?

557
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, why not it's just a podcast?

558
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 3: No, But but the reality is, you know, like whatever

559
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 3: his feelings are, because he said, you know, I love

560
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 3: Robert and they could be the best of friends off

561
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 3: the field, but you can still not like how somebody

562
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 3: operates in the place of business.

563
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 5: Definitely.

564
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 3: I mean, how many families are torn asunder when they

565
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 3: try to work together? What are best friends have an

566
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 3: idea for a business and all of a sudden, it's like,

567
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 3: you know what, we probably should just go back to

568
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 3: drinking beers on weekends and hanging out. Right, Yeah, So

569
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 3: same thing here. Philosophically, and where they're at might have

570
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 3: been two very different things.

571
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Speaker 5: That's true.

572
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Speaker 4: I guess my bigger thing is I just feel like

573
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 4: it's pretty clear that he didn't Rogers didn't respect Sola

574
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 4: and and that might have played into it. But I

575
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 4: think it was a little overblown that that he didn't

576
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,719
Speaker 4: like him and wanted him fired and stuff. I think

577
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 4: he just like Rogers, just isn't going to respect his

578
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,479
Speaker 4: head coach. That's that's who he is. It's just and

579
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 4: I think that is historically the case.

580
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 5: Yeah.

581
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Speaker 2: Well again, I didn't read the book, but I listened

582
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 2: to Ian O'Connor's book about Aaron Rodgers and Aaron Rodgers,

583
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 2: there is a part of him in the book where

584
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 2: they talk about he puts people on islands, and when

585
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 2: you're on an island, you are persona on grade to him.

586
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 2: We saw it with his parents, he did it with

587
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 2: close friends, He's done it with other people. And so

588
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 2: you know, if you're not on Aaron Rodgers side of things,

589
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 2: or you're not with him, you are likely against him.

590
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 2: And so with the solid thing, again, he may not

591
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 2: have had anything to do with it. In that conversation

592
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 2: on Monday Night with Woody Johnson, But in that conversation,

593
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 2: if Aaron Rodgers would have said, we need to keep

594
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 2: Robert around for this season, he is the one that's

595
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 2: going to get it done, then a change would not

596
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 2: have been.

597
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 4: Made, right, right, But I think there's it's such a

598
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 4: wide spectrum between him telling what he to fire him

599
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 4: and him just not saying anywall.

600
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 3: But you're saying that, you know the old song, you

601
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,239
Speaker 3: say it best when you say nothing at all, like

602
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 3: you can fight for him to stick around.

603
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think it's established he didn't respect him

604
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 4: enough to want to fight for him.

605
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 3: You know.

606
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 2: This is I don't want to. I don't wanna. I

607
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 2: was going to try to make a correlation to the

608
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 2: Menendez brothers, but they would just have been awful. So

609
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna. I'm not even gonna. Yeh, I don't.

610
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 3: I don't. But I haven't followed these shows, so I don't.

611
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 5: I haven't either.

612
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 3: It's been a long time since I've followed the case

613
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Speaker 3: of just.

614
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Speaker 2: The case of it, well, like it's just of you know,

615
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 2: there's there's yeah, don't even worry about it. No, No,

616
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 2: the point being, and I think that Ian and Ian

617
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 2: I'm not piling on you. It's not saying this is

618
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 2: that Aaron Rodgers could have saved Robert Sala's job if

619
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 2: he wanted Sala there. But if Woody Johnson says, I'm

620
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 2: thinking about firing Robert, yeah, well you're the owner, what

621
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 2: he I mean, it's your team. You do what you

622
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 2: gotta do, you know that sort of thing, Or if

623
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 2: he didn't in this conversation of not even maybe bringing

624
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 2: up the topic at all, like that doesn't I don't

625
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 2: think Aaron Rodgers wanted his hands dirty. He's already got

626
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 2: one coach fired and Mike McCarthy, as Mike said, you

627
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 2: don't want that one on your hands either. So if

628
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 2: what he Johnson is going to do it, Aaron Rodgers

629
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 2: is not going to stand in his way. If he

630
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 2: wants Robert Sala gone, fine, go right ahead and do it.

631
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 2: So if there was any point where there was going

632
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 2: to be pushed back on a possible change, I just

633
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 2: I and you know what, I also say this, if

634
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers didn't want him fired, don't you think Aaron

635
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 2: would have said something since then until now?

636
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 4: I just think there's a difference between wanting him fired

637
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 4: and being indifferent about it. And I think he was

638
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 4: indifferent about it, Like I don't. I think the way

639
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 4: it's been painted is, or at least up until now,

640
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 4: is that he wanted him fired. But to me, it's

641
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 4: that he just wasn't different about it. So to your point,

642
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 4: if what he did come to him and say, hey,

643
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 4: we're thinking about firing Robert sala I don't think he

644
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 4: cared enough to inference stead.

645
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 2: That he didn't want him. I think that that's I

646
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,239
Speaker 2: don't think that there's three steps of not wanting him,

647
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 2: indifference and not wanting them. It's either you want him

648
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 2: or you don't want it.

649
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 4: Just for you to not want someone, there needs to

650
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 4: be someone who you view as a better option, you

651
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like like you need there needs

652
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 4: to have been someone that he viewed as a better

653
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 4: option for him to literally want sala out.

654
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 2: I when they fired Mike McCarthy, I don't think that

655
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 2: there was the consideration of, hey, there's a better option.

656
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 2: I don't think that Aaron just wants his way. He's

657
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 2: gam he's the head coach. I just I don't think

658
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 2: he could he could have stopped it. Maybe maybe he's

659
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 2: on board with this boy hacke it. You know, he

660
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 2: with with praising him for how well he's handled the demotion,

661
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 2: but he could have stopped it, just like the way

662
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 2: they they've got DeVante Adams anyway, now.

663
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 3: They got to figure out how to stop the bleeding. Yes, yes,

664
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 3: that's really what it comes down to. And you know,

665
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 3: Smith and I got we didn't get fiery into it,

666
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 3: but I firmly disagreed with the Garrett Wilson asked to

667
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 3: catch that ball. I don't care if dude got a

668
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 3: finger on it. I was not.

669
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 4: I was yelling it was he tried to squash and

670
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 4: he actually, which I liked. He owned up to that

671
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 4: after the game. He said, it's a culmination of bad habits.

672
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 4: I need to catch it with my hands. That's what

673
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 4: I said in the moment, Like why are you catching

674
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 4: it with your body? It's a perfect throat and it

675
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 4: bounced off his chest. It's like, if you're one of

676
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 4: the best receivers in the league, like people say you are,

677
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 4: you catch that?

678
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 5: You catch that ball.

679
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 2: I think there's something there because Garrett Wilson was one

680
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 2: of the better skilled receivers that you had coming into

681
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 2: the draft. Like when you talk about pro receivers and

682
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 2: doing the stuff like that, catching with your hands, that's

683
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 2: what he did. That's it's truly And I've watched the

684
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 2: enough Ohio State football to see the receivers that have

685
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 2: gone through. There was no one better more prepared for

686
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 2: the pros than Michael Thomas. There wasn't. Then Marvin Harrison

687
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 2: Junior came along and he was great. But Garrett Wilson

688
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 2: is up in that conversation with those two guys, and

689
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 2: so there may be there may be something there with

690
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 2: Garrett Wilson right now that's just not right in his head.

691
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 2: And I won't blame that on Aaron Rodgers, but there

692
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 2: may be a mental thing going on in just you know,

693
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 2: a mental block. Sometimes that's just not you know, athletes.

694
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,760
Speaker 3: It happens, absolutely, yeah.

695
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely all right. We'll take your calls one eight

696
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 2: hundred jets, give us a ring here on I want

697
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 2: your flax. He is Ian Roddy, that's Mike Carmen. I'm

698
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 2: Dan Beyer. We got to take a time out. We

699
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 2: will get to the Brandon Ayuk information and how that

700
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 2: plays out with the forty nine ers. In fact, we're

701
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 2: probably going to do it on our next podcast. So

702
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 2: that's going to be dropping on Wednesday. We'll give the

703
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 2: fallout for that because coming up next, Mike's got your

704
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,280
Speaker 2: waiver wire. We know you got to make your claims,

705
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 2: get your fab ready for week eight in the NFL season.

706
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,240
Speaker 2: Plus we'll do our report cards, what hit, what missed

707
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 2: in week seven? A lot more to get to and

708
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 2: I promise the solid firing, by the way, is two

709
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 2: weeks ago and we're still talking about how great is that.

710
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 2: We will get the more here and I want your flex.

711
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 2: He's Mike, I'm dan thatt'sy and that's next report card

712
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 2: top for week seven, plus Mike Scott the waiver wire

713
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,879
Speaker 2: pickcups that you are going to need with all the

714
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 2: injuries that we saw in week seven. First of all,

715
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 2: my ego has been injured. After I told you that

716
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 2: the points of Palooza was going to be Eagles Giants.

717
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 2: I even said on the podcast guys that I thought

718
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 2: it could be a funky one. Eagles actually kept up

719
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 2: their end of the bargain, Giants did not. Eagles scored

720
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 2: twenty eight in the game. Giants scored a whole three,

721
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 2: so that failed. And then to Mario Douglas, which seemed

722
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 2: to be a theme in Week seven, with people getting sick.

723
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 2: He was not feeling well. Only hauled in two catches

724
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 2: in that game in London against the Jaguars. That was

725
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,439
Speaker 2: not a good play and nobody really a good play

726
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 2: for the Patriots and that contest. But I did give

727
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 2: you some survivor winners, Colts and Bills ended up prevailing.

728
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 2: Colts was a little tricky. It was a little tricky

729
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 2: for the Bills for a while. Guys against the Titans,

730
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 2: but Buffalo ended up pulling away big time in the

731
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,919
Speaker 2: second half, but ended up working out. Survivor wise, Ian

732
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 2: your streaming defenses, Rams and Jags, how'd they fare?

733
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 3: They what?

734
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 5: It was a great week? It was a great week.

735
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 4: Now, let me start by saying I did preface my

736
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 4: defenses by saying, if the Bengals were available in your league,

737
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 4: then you should try and get them. They scored fifteen points,

738
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,439
Speaker 4: so if they were there, I hope you got them.

739
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 4: The Rams, which were one of my official picks, they

740
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 4: had seventeen points, so that could have been a league

741
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 4: winner for you. You work, and then the Jaguars had

742
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 4: eleven points. So all three were very very good streaming options.

743
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 2: So yeah, Mike kits On Lamar Jackson as the top quarterback.

744
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 2: Josh Allen also a great game. I know you had

745
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 2: Jayden Daniels high, but yeah, what can you do with

746
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 2: the injury? Yeah, something that you can't for Diggs.

747
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Baker as a top five. So I'll take a

748
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 3: little victory.

749
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 2: There for sure. Absolutely, Saquan was on your list in

750
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,439
Speaker 2: the top five, sitting there at number two. He was great.

751
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 2: Derrick Henry did his damage BJI even though the loss,

752
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 2: very effective. Kyrien Williams was your number one guy, very

753
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 2: very strong, top five in the running backs hot plays,

754
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 2: he had Geno Smith as a as a top play

755
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 2: and man, I'm sorry this is me as a Seahawks fan,

756
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 2: but when they can block in like they can move

757
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 2: like they can, they just they just gotta protect Gino Smith.

758
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,959
Speaker 2: That's all you gotta do. And Mike Girell or rookie

759
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 2: tackle playing right tackle for the first time. Maybe they've

760
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 2: actually figured that out. But yeah, Geno as a hot plays.

761
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 3: Look at that excitement. We got an RB two showing

762
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 3: from Tyler Goodson, So we'll take the victory there. Tank

763
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 3: Bigsby finished eighth in PPR leagues, so a little bit

764
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 3: of a win there. What else Drake May. I mean, look,

765
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 3: the play calling was really good out of the gate. Yeah,

766
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 3: and then I was confused. Right, You had the Jaguars

767
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 3: giving you the same effort they did against the Bears

768
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 3: for a couple of series and then you let them

769
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 3: off the hook with some bad play calling and let's

770
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 3: call the first first down dive play. No, their secondary

771
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 3: stinks throw the ball. But yeah, as always some other disasters,

772
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 3: like the Breise Hall play against Pittsburgh. He was obviously

773
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 3: dominant and Pickens on the other side called out for

774
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 3: the effort. Thanks. Yeah, you know, hey, anybody that I

775
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 3: call out for effort usually goes off big. So I'm

776
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 3: gonna have the list of guys that if you want

777
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 3: to send the grievances, I'll air him in, you know,

778
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 3: like like you're buying indulgences back in the day. Look

779
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 3: it up, you all took history. That's the way to

780
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 3: get to heaven or fantasy heaven by buying off me C. J.

781
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 2: Stroud and Patrick Mahomes or two of your cold sores.

782
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 2: And boy did they live up to the billings. So

783
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,439
Speaker 2: you do deserve credit on that one. Stroud just ten

784
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 2: of twenty one for eighty six yards. And then lost

785
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 2: to Green Bay.

786
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, just five point three points. Finished as the twenty

787
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,760
Speaker 3: ninth quarterback. He was behind Jake Hayner.

788
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 2: Ouch h. That's never good.

789
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 3: I just you know, I just thought i'd give it

790
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 3: the specificity.

791
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 2: Twenty ninth was bad enough when there's two teams on

792
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 2: buy okay, and then when you're throwing Jake.

793
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 3: Hayner still more than Matthew Stafford.

794
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 2: Well there you go. That's what so what you got.

795
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 3: And the other guys that left with injury.

796
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, where did Mahomes end up?

797
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 3: Mahomes finished nineteenth, okay, all right, tied for eighteenth with

798
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 3: bo Nicks. All right at fourteen point one.

799
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 2: When you pretend to go out of bounds and then

800
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 2: keep running, dude, that was add to your you can

801
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 2: add to your total.

802
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 3: The number of people are like, look at the magic

803
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 3: and Patrick Mahomes like, yeah, because every guy knows he's

804
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 3: going to get a flag and he's going to get

805
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 3: a pink envelope taking twenty thousand dollars or more from

806
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 3: this pocket.

807
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 2: I agree with that, but I will also say that

808
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 2: there have been a bunch of people who called out

809
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 2: the BS as well. So the people were very vocal

810
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 2: that's what happened when it's the the marquee game in

811
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 2: the late window. There are only two other games going

812
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 2: on at the time, so it was pretty much across

813
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,240
Speaker 2: the country. Happens when you have a Super Bowl rematch.

814
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 2: But I do think people were calling out at how

815
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:13,760
Speaker 2: that was also be I hope.

816
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 3: So, because I'll tell you that's one of those and

817
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 3: we see it a bunch right to where it bops

818
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 3: its head in, and like, all right, just blow the

819
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 3: guy up, take the fifteen yards. Maybe he won't do

820
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 3: it again.

821
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:31,240
Speaker 2: It's it's just such a such a bad, bad look.

822
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,280
Speaker 3: But hey, look at this guy quit on the sideline.

823
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 2: Well, the Chiefs got to a Super Bowl from a

824
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 2: call like that against the Bengals. Remember the yep, the

825
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 2: late hit out of bounds gives them fifteen yards, And

826
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 2: it probably was. But that's what everybody's thinking. So all right,

827
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 2: there's our report card time now, Mike, do we need

828
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 2: to pick up heading into week eight? Thursday night, it's

829
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 2: Vikings Rams for those keeping track.

830
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 3: Well, we get into our long play and to the

831
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 3: window for practices open. He got caught in about sixty

832
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 3: sixty five percent of leagues. So the opportunity there as

833
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 3: ugly as it was in time, like one of the

834
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 3: interceptions his fault, pretty good play by they buy on

835
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 3: the first one, and then the second one bounces off

836
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 3: Garrett Wilson. They all couch us to say him, but

837
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers and that offense. I still have hope for

838
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 3: better days, better days. And you got the Patriots this week,

839
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 3: and Trevor Lawrence and the Jaguars offense look competent. So

840
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 3: I gotta think better day is for you, Ian Roddy,

841
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 3: and you're in New York football Jets. Herbert threw for

842
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 3: three forty nine. I don't know how many times he's

843
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 3: going to see the end zone, but at this point

844
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 3: he's been jettison too the waiver wires, so if nothing

845
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 3: else yet, and you know, you have a functional quarterback

846
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 3: that you know, break glass in case of emergency kind

847
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 3: of thing. And then I love me some Drake may

848
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 3: Jets defense. I think I'll have a better day than

849
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 3: they did this last week. And then I'd be remiss

850
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 3: if I didn't at least say, all right, Russell Wilson,

851
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 3: you got the giant, Yeah, go out and get it.

852
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 2: I Yeah, imagine being down thirteen and having Russell Wilson

853
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 2: on Monday Night football to watch that is a roller

854
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 2: coaster ride.

855
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 3: Well, there's no question about it. That'll be fun. We'll

856
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 3: see who lines up opposite him right for the Giants

857
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 3: as we go forward running back position, Ray Davis, you know,

858
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 3: insurance plus a few touches. We talked about Tyler Goodson

859
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 3: eight plus touches three straight weeks. I think he still

860
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 3: has a part in this offense, even with Taylor expected

861
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Speaker 3: back Justice Hill with Baltimore. I know Derrick Henry's the wizard,

862
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Speaker 3: but you're talking about Hill as a receiver out of

863
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 3: the backfield, seeing four to six targets a week. Some

864
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 3: opportunity duff run through there. People got mad about Pittsburgh

865
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Speaker 3: and their offense. Jalen Warren's healthy, He's going to have

866
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:58,720
Speaker 3: a share there with Nase Harris going forward. So opportunity

867
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Speaker 3: knocks there. And then we got to figure out what's

868
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Speaker 3: going on with Tampa and now with the wide receiver

869
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Speaker 3: position with both Evans and Chris Godwin not going to

870
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 3: be around, so you know what they do and whether

871
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,959
Speaker 3: that means more of using Tucker as a wide out

872
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 3: question mark, you know, or do they go into the marketplace,

873
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 3: but for the receivers that are out there for now,

874
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 3: you're looking at Juwan Jennings coming back with the all

875
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,919
Speaker 3: the injuries and issues going on in San Francisco, Ayuk's

876
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 3: injury debo with pneumonia and kittles banged up, so an

877
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 3: opportunity for him to step right back into a big role,

878
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 3: as with Ricky Pearsol played his first game back. Kean Coleman,

879
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 3: a guy folks have stayed away from in Buffalo, and

880
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 3: I get it. The targets behind Shakir and now Amari

881
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 3: Cooper with Dalt looking Kaid might be fewer, but quality

882
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,760
Speaker 3: will be there, so as a three might get a shot.

883
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:03,280
Speaker 3: Franklin as up sixteen targets for Denver. Quality is a question,

884
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 3: but he's basically on owned, so an opportunity there. And

885
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Speaker 3: then we go back just to look at and we'll

886
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 3: do a deeper dive in the Wednesday episode. But you know,

887
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 3: while we're at it, you know, you start looking at

888
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 3: what's going on with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Sterling Shepherd

889
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 3: is the leader in the clubhouse.

890
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Speaker 2: There you are your waiver wire pickups four week eight

891
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:29,240
Speaker 2: and if you have noticed something we did not tease

892
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 2: any teams on buys because there are no buys in

893
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Speaker 2: week eight. So when your team is handcuffed and possibly

894
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 2: your regular season finale because there are six teams on

895
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 2: buy in week fourteen, remember this week and remember how

896
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 2: stupid the NFL was to not give teams a buy

897
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 2: in week eight. There's no again. This will added this

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Speaker 2: to the chapter on NFL scheduling, mic, I have no reason.

899
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 2: Last week only two teams on by your Bears and

900
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Speaker 2: the Cowboys. Now you go into week eight, nobody's on buy,

901
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 2: but week fourteen when half those teams are going to

902
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 2: be out of the playoff hunt. Anyway, Hey, you guys,

903
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 2: take the week off. Don't worry about working this week.

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Speaker 3: You know me, I abhore the early buys. I know

905
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 3: it should be all mid season, whether it's by division

906
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 3: or whatever you want to do.

907
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Speaker 2: I hate the late buys more than I hate the Earth. No,

908
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,280
Speaker 2: I agrees, Yeah, because now there are gonna be teams

909
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 2: that aren't in the running. We're at week eight. We

910
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 2: are in the middle, Like this is smack dab when

911
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,240
Speaker 2: you should be loading up on your bye weeks. Instead,

912
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,280
Speaker 2: the NFL is like you know what, on week fourteen

913
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Speaker 2: in early December. And by the way, it's not December

914
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 2: one and two. We're talking about like December nine and ten.

915
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 2: Like that's like where we are. Eight December eighth is

916
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Speaker 2: a Sunday. You have six teams on buy that week, Denver,

917
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Speaker 2: the Colts, Patriots, Commander's, Baltimore, and Houston. Now we think

918
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Speaker 2: the Commanders, Ravens, and Houston are all going to be

919
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 2: playoff teams. Denver's playing good right now, but their season

920
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 2: could be over. New England's season is done already, and

921
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 2: they're gonna have a buy in week fourteen.

922
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Speaker 3: Colts.

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Speaker 2: Who knows what's gonna happen, but just doesn't make a

924
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Speaker 2: lot of sense. Don't don't understand it at all. You

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00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:08,399
Speaker 2: could have given a couple of those teams by.

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Speaker 3: I don't think teams need buys in week five, correct,

927
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Speaker 3: and most of them don't need them after week ten

928
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Speaker 3: or eleven. Yeah right, I mean, I think we can

929
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Speaker 3: shrink this down.

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Speaker 2: I agree wholeheartedly, but that will be for another day.

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Speaker 3: So until we're in charge, Dan, till we get that

932
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Speaker 3: billion dollar app built, I'll be a buyre a weigh in.

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Speaker 2: I will be waiting NFL. We'll put a bow on

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Speaker 2: this one. Ian, great job on the streaming defenses. Better

935
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Speaker 2: luck to your Jets. In week eight, Mike bears back

936
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Speaker 2: in action. Maybe the game of the week against the.

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Speaker 3: Commanders highly anticipated. Yeah, the only problem is the guy

938
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Speaker 3: on the other side might not be available. Maybe a

939
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Speaker 3: Marcus Mariota game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, something we'll dive into on our podcast, dropping it

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Speaker 2: tomorrow as well. So for Mike, Carman, Andy and Roddy,

942
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Speaker 2: I'm Dan Byer. We appreciate you always this thing. You

943
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Speaker 2: can't wait to talk to you next time. Right here,

944
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Speaker 2: and I want your flex.

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