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Speaker 1: This is our life, this is our passion. That's the

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Speaker 1: spirit we bring to this show. I'm Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 2: This this Morning Combat.

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Speaker 3: Hey, it's the thirtieth of November and we're back in

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Speaker 3: black like ac DC. Also we're in studio. Hi everyone,

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Speaker 3: my name is Luke Thomas. I'm want half of your

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Speaker 3: hosting duo. That's Brian Campbell. This is Morning Combat. We

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Speaker 3: have a fun show plan today.

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Speaker 2: I got a little hangdown issue over here, but I'm

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Speaker 2: trying to resolve it here, all right with the Hartford Whalers.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm the King of the Connecticut. I'm also the captain.

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Speaker 4: So it's a fitting Hello.

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Speaker 2: You had that I just got. I was just gifted

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Speaker 2: with it recently. It's pretty cool. I gotta say it's

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Speaker 2: a nice Brendan Shanahan. What's the back of the what's

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Speaker 2: it saying in the back Shanahan? Yeah? Okay, oh yeah, yeah?

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Speaker 2: Who can forget that one glorious year he had Harford?

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Speaker 2: Luke right, uh me? Because I don't even know who

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Speaker 2: the fuck that is? Hi?

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Speaker 3: Everyone, we got a lot of get to get today.

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Speaker 3: We have the we're gonna get let's see do a

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Speaker 3: bit of a preview for UFC Orlando. There are some well,

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Speaker 3: there's one I'm gonna say, semi decent boxing fight this weekend.

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Speaker 2: That's the Chocolato fight by semi decent. You mean great. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: well I don't think it's great.

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Speaker 3: I think it's semi I think it's good. How about that,

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Speaker 3: I'll say good, not great. And then as a Tyson

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Speaker 3: Fury fight, which is just a total waste of everyone's time.

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Speaker 3: Although Dingo Dubai in the undercard, which is pretty good,

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Speaker 3: and you'll do wi yeah, yeah, yeah, And we're gonna

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Speaker 3: get to let's see your fan stubs. Plus, we are

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Speaker 3: going to crown the hammer of the month here today

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Speaker 3: it us a nice review, BC.

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Speaker 2: How are you. I'm doing good? You know, we're back

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Speaker 2: in the studio where we belong.

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Speaker 4: There is an alternate universe, Luke, in which we both

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Speaker 4: live within you know, walking distance of this place one day,

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Speaker 4: and we come in here on the daily we tear

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Speaker 4: the shit up and the rest of our rivals in

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Speaker 4: the game. When that inevitably happens, they'll know what time

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Speaker 4: it is. But for now, still open season. We'll compete,

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Speaker 4: we'll win the awards, but we'll compete once that happens.

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Speaker 4: So that's like John Jones, one of the Heavy White

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Speaker 4: title be game over.

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Speaker 2: How many coeludes are coursing through your set? All of them? No,

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Speaker 2: but excited to be back at it.

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Speaker 4: Uh, you know it's uh, it's the holiday season, right, yes,

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Speaker 4: so you know Whoop dee doop and dickery doc right.

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't even know what I don't even

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Speaker 2: know what you're doing. Yeah, you know, it's it's a

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Speaker 2: new bit I've been working on. It's called life. How

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Speaker 2: was your traveling today? It was great? It was great.

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Speaker 4: You know, went over the old tap and Z. They

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Speaker 4: the tap and z? It was what the bridge was called, Okay,

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Speaker 4: then they changed the name to Cuomo and then he

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Speaker 3: A lot of girls probably turned out. Well, we had

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Speaker 3: a big fight before the show. Huh, you want to

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Speaker 3: tell the folks about that? I mean, you know, I'm

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Speaker 2: We solved it. I mean we're grown We're grown to.

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Speaker 2: You were a little up in your feels, a little little.

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Speaker 2: I was very angry at you. Yeah, but we're all

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Speaker 2: right now, We're good. I'm good. Are you good?

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Speaker 4: I think three eleven said it best with their song

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Speaker 4: title misdirected Hostility.

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so big win.

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Speaker 4: He wins a vacant title, he stops Waida. But that

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Speaker 4: was this independent pay per view. It's like who the

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Speaker 4: har of nation? Who the heck's paying for It turns

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Speaker 4: out nobody.

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Speaker 3: If you haven't seen his tweet, he cashed the fight

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Speaker 3: not all good money is good money.

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Speaker 2: Remember that. We may find that out December tenth. We'll

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Speaker 2: see what we shall find that out December tenth.

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Speaker 4: Okay, seeing although for Terrence Crawford's sake, December tenth, he

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Speaker 4: claims that he got paid five million up front. A

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Speaker 4: he'll be paid in full before that even happens.

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Speaker 2: That's some Eric being rock him level shit.

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Speaker 3: We shall see, we shall see, all right. Reminder, showtime

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Speaker 3: Get a thirty day little test out period. If you

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Speaker 3: like it, you can keep it. If not, you can

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Speaker 3: bounce up to you as well as the store. Well,

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Speaker 3: you can't get the Hartford Whalers on there, or just

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Speaker 3: playing black clothing. Not yet, not yet. I have to say,

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Speaker 3: I have to say, how about this idea, we need

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Speaker 3: an MK hockey jersey.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I never would have said that, because I've always

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Speaker 4: been so, I've always loved hockey. You should play roller

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Speaker 4: game or being forced to watch the NHL that's on

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Speaker 4: thought we're in a jersey in public, a hockey jersey

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Speaker 4: And now you know now the idea of an m

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Speaker 4: that's where the m K hockey jersey will be worn.

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Speaker 2: There's no question. I gotta say I like it.

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Speaker 3: My wife has a red Ovechkin jersey. Hold on ready,

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Speaker 3: the name Ovechkin is written in Russian. Oh wow, and

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Speaker 3: he signed it? How about that? Almost I think it's

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Speaker 4: That could say Kadirov and you're just gould Sake like

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Speaker 4: Domina have just been blindly deceived.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I suppose that is possible, but we think it

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Speaker 2: says Ovechkin. It is. We know for a fact asign

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Speaker 4: So Vechkin really is really gonna he won't catch Gretzky,

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Speaker 4: The reality is that Gretzky's assist in point totals are

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Speaker 3: Askin has more goals than any other player ever for

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Speaker 4: Okay, I think Gretzky has more assists than anyone else

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Speaker 4: but I think that's pretty crazy. If he takes the

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Speaker 2: Is he old? Like thirty five ish something like that. Oh,

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Speaker 3: you alex Ovechkin is, according to Wikipedia thirty seven thirty seven.

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Speaker 2: he's got a he has a real shot of this.

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Speaker 2: Damn pretty good.

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Speaker 3: But the long story short there is we need an

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Speaker 3: M K R J Duncle Bukaki, We need an mk

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Speaker 2: What with what that rising anus? Legal?

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Speaker 3: I don't know about the rising anus, but the Harvard

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Speaker 3: Wheeler's one, I got to say, it's pretty fucking cool.

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Speaker 2: I like that one.

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Speaker 4: And how about the song that they had breast Bonanza?

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Speaker 4: That you'd always hear on NHLD ninety four on Sega.

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Speaker 5: That brown brownrown, but you know that one that like

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Speaker 4: Bounce, you know that one, right, NHL ninety four. Thank

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Speaker 2: Long Island Luke giving me his video game opinions in

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Speaker 4: Unbelievable in that game. He's like Bo Jackson on steroids.

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Speaker 3: we can. Topic number one. We start as we customarily do,

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Speaker 3: headlined by Stephen Thompson, an old wonder boy I think,

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Speaker 4: I love the matchup from the perspective of the names,

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Speaker 4: the ultimate coming or going fight for wonder Boy Thompson.

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Speaker 4: We thought it seemed of late, like that last run

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Speaker 4: Well he can kick that down by beating a guy

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Speaker 4: recent very humbling loss to Hamzat Chimayav. Look, I love

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Speaker 3: Pop quiz because This is surprising to me. I didn't

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Speaker 3: Where in the rankings. We're not saying we agree with it,

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Speaker 2: Kevin Holland is unranked. Now.

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Speaker 3: His situation has been all over the place because he

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Speaker 2: And what does it all mean?

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Speaker 3: Okay, fair enough, I understand him not necessarily being ranked

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Speaker 3: Let me double check this. He obviously did beat Jeff Neil,

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Speaker 3: has back to back losses to Gilbert Burns and Balal Mohammed,

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Speaker 3: Holland doesn't strike me as.

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Speaker 2: That kind of guy.

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Speaker 3: In fact, if you look at the last two wins

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Speaker 3: He also has the losses to Till and Pettis before that,

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Speaker 2: Is it simple enough.

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Speaker 3: To say, hey, he's got another striker here in Kevin Holland,

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Speaker 3: this should be a very winnable fight for him, irrespective.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess you can simply say that because the

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Speaker 2: That's where we're at right now.

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Speaker 4: For Steven Thompson, the two recent clean decision losses have

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Speaker 2: But Luke, who do you think has the edge stylistically?

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Speaker 3: No, he could do that at certain parts. He does

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Speaker 3: A couple things stand out to me about this fight PC.

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Speaker 3: We talked about how Kevin Holland didn't I don't. We

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Speaker 3: just don't think middleweight was really his best place. But

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Speaker 3: He has a let's see, an eighty one reach to

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Speaker 3: Strikes landed per minute three point nine for wonder Boy,

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Speaker 3: About striking defense fifty six percent for Wonder Boy, fifty

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Speaker 3: the difference. Striking accuracy forty three percent for Thompson, which

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Speaker 3: I think two things make a bit of a difference.

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Speaker 3: I think one he's more accurate and two BC he

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Speaker 2: For sure, for sure. And I like this experiment at

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Speaker 4: I feel like overall this is the right direction and

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Speaker 2: I mean, the hum's not lost.

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Speaker 4: You know, under any circumstance he may lose that, he

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Speaker 2: I mean his hom's not really that good.

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Speaker 4: And is there that much a difference between the two

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Speaker 2: Names, he should beat him. Can he beat him?

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Speaker 4: If it's a if it's on the feat the whole time,

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Speaker 4: age as well? We didn't think it would, but yet

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Speaker 4: look at him. He's here right now. He has been

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Speaker 3: Well, I tell you one thing that probably does work

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Speaker 3: So it could have been three wins in a row,

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Speaker 3: Who would order I can tell you right now, yes,

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Speaker 4: Shouldn't he be ranked tenth eleventh right now where WonderBoy

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Speaker 2: But the crossroads element of this fight is true.

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Speaker 4: If Holland's meant to do things moving forward, he's got

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Speaker 4: hiccup against you, but now it's time to show us

435
00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,320
Speaker 4: what he've got and for him to legitimately make noise

436
00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,399
Speaker 4: against this group. Given the fact that this is a

437
00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,040
Speaker 4: wrestling heavy division and they that may not be his

438
00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,320
Speaker 4: ultimate strength, there is pressure on Holland to not be

439
00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:06,000
Speaker 4: wild and to come out and really start to put

440
00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:06,439
Speaker 4: it together.

441
00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:08,800
Speaker 2: That is true. That is true.

442
00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:10,560
Speaker 3: I don't really don't know what's going to happen here,

443
00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:13,320
Speaker 3: given the fact I think the odds being as close

444
00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,880
Speaker 3: as they are really kind of tells you that, like, yeah,

445
00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:16,920
Speaker 3: Kevin Holland.

446
00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:18,000
Speaker 2: Maybe should win.

447
00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,160
Speaker 3: We don't really know if he's gonna By the way,

448
00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,000
Speaker 3: of course, as we mentioned, this is I think it's

449
00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,880
Speaker 3: also called the Amway Center, which is in Orlando, Florida.

450
00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,639
Speaker 3: Having some fans there I think will be kind of

451
00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:30,159
Speaker 3: interesting as well to see how that goes. They're going

452
00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,320
Speaker 3: to be using the Bigger Octagon since they're in a

453
00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,080
Speaker 3: bigger arena, not the Apex Octagon, which is a little

454
00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,879
Speaker 3: bit smaller, and some say that there's no difference statistically.

455
00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:39,720
Speaker 3: That might be true, but I think in individual matchups,

456
00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,520
Speaker 3: especially when you've got a guy like WonderBoy who moves

457
00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,399
Speaker 3: so much, I think it could make a difference. So

458
00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,359
Speaker 3: this is a very very closely contested one and a

459
00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,520
Speaker 3: weird one six versus unranked. You don't see that very often.

460
00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,560
Speaker 3: That's a slightly bizarre one. BC going down the card

461
00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,000
Speaker 3: are comin a lot of sneaky ones on here, some

462
00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,880
Speaker 3: very sneaky ones. So here's another sneaky one. Halfio dos

463
00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:05,120
Speaker 3: Angos is back at one seventy, right because he had

464
00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,040
Speaker 3: the win over who was it U Moikano at one

465
00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,320
Speaker 3: fifty five on short notice, but then he got blitzed

466
00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,720
Speaker 3: by Fazive in the fifth round. So now he went

467
00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:18,080
Speaker 3: back to one seventy again, and this time he takes

468
00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:19,919
Speaker 3: on the surging Brian Barberina.

469
00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:21,360
Speaker 2: I don't have let me look at the odds here,

470
00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:22,440
Speaker 2: Yes I do have them.

471
00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:26,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jesus dos Angos is a huge favorite at minus

472
00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,840
Speaker 3: four fifty excuse me, five point forty to Barberinas plus.

473
00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,760
Speaker 2: This interesting fight. What makes it so interesting because it's

474
00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:33,200
Speaker 2: so weird.

475
00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:34,879
Speaker 4: You never would have thought these two would be together

476
00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,360
Speaker 4: in a potential co main event opportunity if Fidenza playing

477
00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:41,000
Speaker 4: out that way with like somewhat legitimate stakes, meaning, did

478
00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,840
Speaker 4: we ever expect Brian Barberina to be right here on

479
00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,480
Speaker 4: a three fight win streak looking like if you beat

480
00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,040
Speaker 4: a former champion RDA who's still got a decent amount

481
00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,320
Speaker 4: of gas left in that tank, he'll be in a

482
00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,160
Speaker 4: spot that I don't think any of us saw.

483
00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:54,480
Speaker 2: You.

484
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,879
Speaker 4: Add in the fact that recently Barberina, known as A brawlers,

485
00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,640
Speaker 4: was openly contemplating retiring if do you he didn't renew

486
00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:02,480
Speaker 4: his contract and he was almost like, I wasn't.

487
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,000
Speaker 2: Really sure they would. Well they did.

488
00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,640
Speaker 4: He's rifled off three in a row, but he's still

489
00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,760
Speaker 4: that caveman brawler. Walk you down, take your shots, and

490
00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,800
Speaker 4: try to wear you down. Normally, that's a bad strategy

491
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,200
Speaker 4: to go against someone as sharp and as tough as Ourda,

492
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,840
Speaker 4: but Rdie is what thirty eight, thirty nine, I mean,

493
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,199
Speaker 4: he's pushing it at this point. We still know that

494
00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,960
Speaker 4: he's got enough on any given night to give it

495
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:24,879
Speaker 4: to somebody, and yeah, he should be the favorite in

496
00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 4: this regard, but one of those nights, Luke, he's gonna

497
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 4: show up. Old Barberina makes this interesting matchup because he's

498
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,879
Speaker 4: not gonna go away or be deterred the first few times.

499
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 2: You light him up.

500
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,640
Speaker 4: RDA is gonna have to go into that woodshed and

501
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,480
Speaker 4: earn it at this age, he should win this, But

502
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:43,320
Speaker 4: I like Brian Barberia getting this sort of almost spotlight

503
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,359
Speaker 4: step up unlikely opportunity to show us that.

504
00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:47,920
Speaker 2: Maybe he's more than a mohawk brawler.

505
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,440
Speaker 4: Luke, you win, you get four four wins in a row,

506
00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,159
Speaker 4: including one over a guy like RDA who's still showing us,

507
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,920
Speaker 4: even in defeat of late, that he's still man. He's

508
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 4: still a tough, stubborn out and Barberina is not small

509
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,439
Speaker 4: for this weight class, Luke. This is an interesting matchup

510
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,040
Speaker 4: in that regard. Should our RDA carve him up, yes,

511
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,159
Speaker 4: but what if he doesn't, What if he finds himself

512
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 4: in a war. The thing about Barberina is there those

513
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,239
Speaker 4: moments where you go, okay, he's not gonna be able

514
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,200
Speaker 4: to take any more than that. He pushes through those

515
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 4: moments on a routine Bassis, Luke, and ends up getting

516
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:15,159
Speaker 4: inside on you.

517
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 2: And that's when the fight it's interesting.

518
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the numbers speak to this. We'll go

519
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 3: over this more on Friday. But Barberina takes a lot

520
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 3: of damage. That's that much is not in dispute. And

521
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,679
Speaker 3: here's the big one BC take down accuracy for Barberina,

522
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,359
Speaker 3: which wouldn't really matter. He wouldn't imagine he would go

523
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,880
Speaker 3: for a takedowns on RDA. But it's twenty five percent.

524
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 3: That is low takedown defence, just fifty five percent, just

525
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 3: fifty five. Now you might say RDA has fifty nine percent,

526
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 3: but look at who RDA has fought.

527
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 2: Everyone who has ever been a bad at one across

528
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 2: two weight classes, not just one two of them, so

529
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 2: that is a little bit misleading.

530
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 3: Also, strikes landed permitt it for Barberina six point one one,

531
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:57,960
Speaker 3: which is high strike's absorbed five. He has a positive differential,

532
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 3: but my man gets hit also, so I think there's

533
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 3: a four inch height differential. And for a guy like RDA,

534
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 3: who can wrestle when you already have that low a stance,

535
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 3: I think you're going to see a fair amount of

536
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 3: wrestling in this one.

537
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:11,360
Speaker 2: Plus it's three rounds not five.

538
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 4: You I'll bring up great points and there's a lot

539
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 4: of reason, almost six to one odds to like RDA.

540
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 4: But that stoppage lost to Raphael Phazive and a very

541
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 4: big important fight, a Fight Night made event that happened

542
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 4: in the fifth round. There's no like I'm not overly

543
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 4: scared by that. But he is thirty eight years old,

544
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 4: he's just been stopped and he go, okay, well, onen's

545
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 4: the last time RDA has been stopped on his feet

546
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 4: outside of the title loss to who stopped him Alvarez

547
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 4: right Eddie Elvres, which we now we found out after

548
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,199
Speaker 4: the fact that our DA at that point was like

549
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 4: risking his life cutting weight.

550
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 2: He had been stopped once, so Jeremy Stevens going back

551
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 2: to Jeremy Stevens in two thousand and eight, two thousand

552
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 2: and eight, So that's how long that stretches.

553
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 4: So does it give you a pause that we just

554
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 4: saw a clean knockout loss for him. It's just something

555
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 4: to watch going in here against a certified hammer a

556
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 4: guy who's still raw, doesn't have the skill set of

557
00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,080
Speaker 4: the experience on this level is an r DA. But

558
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,679
Speaker 4: you do wonder if that moment meant anything when when

559
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 4: we finally saw him get chopped down and even.

560
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 3: Fight against az Eve. Let me ask a weird question here.

561
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,919
Speaker 3: He moved back to Brazil. I know this because I

562
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 3: follow we follow each other on Instagram, and.

563
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 2: I don't know.

564
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 3: He's been given like interesting interviews about like perspective on

565
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 3: his career and everything. He is heavily favored to win

566
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 3: this BC if he loses, right, And to your point,

567
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,439
Speaker 3: like maybe the physive thing showed us something.

568
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,679
Speaker 2: That was there now, Well to that point, if he loses,

569
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:31,400
Speaker 2: it's going to be a bad loss, right, We're kind

570
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 2: of convinced, Momerruble law. No.

571
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 4: No, but not just in theory, but the way that

572
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,159
Speaker 4: it would happen more likely than not, it would be

573
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,160
Speaker 4: like not a self implosive one, but a one where

574
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 4: he just you know, his punch resistance met its right, right,

575
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 4: So it's going to be a bad loss no matter

576
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:52,119
Speaker 4: what right does he retire. It's weird a guy like this.

577
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:53,880
Speaker 4: You're just like, no, he's literally going to fight until

578
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 4: they remove him. But that would be a humbling loss

579
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,879
Speaker 4: given the reputations of both although they're coming together in

580
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 4: this crossroads opportunity, the because of the you know, the

581
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 4: recent knockout loss for our DA. But this would answer

582
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 4: the question about like it'd be hard if you're r

583
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 4: DA or like any of these old hand I mean,

584
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,880
Speaker 4: even Showgun in recent years when he was like a

585
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 4: quasi light heavyweight contender and he put together four and

586
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 4: five fight win streaks against you know, B B minus guys,

587
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 4: and you're like, damn is if they feel they can

588
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,880
Speaker 4: still give people in the top ten a problem, They're

589
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 4: not going to go away until you make them. Well,

590
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 4: if he went in there and got stopped by Barberina

591
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,679
Speaker 4: in a war, that might be the wake up call

592
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 4: to him that you are not that guy anymore. So

593
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 4: now would be the time to take your sword and

594
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 4: walk away. Probably not, though, look.

595
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 3: What about Barberina. Here was a guy who we thought

596
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 3: may just leave the sport, leave the UFC. He got

597
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 3: a new deal here. He is, as you indicated, three

598
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 3: fight win streak now against some aging names there. It's

599
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 3: not exactly against guy. I mean he has the winner

600
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 3: a lawler, which you know wasn't a prime lawler. I

601
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 3: think it's pretty fair to say he got to split

602
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 3: over Matt Brown. What would a win here signify because legitimacy,

603
00:25:58,440 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 3: I would think this would be his best win.

604
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 4: By Far's He's literally fighting for legitimacy on Saturday. And

605
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 4: I think that's what makes this fight interesting. Like this

606
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 4: guy literally thought he was going to retire, Like he's like, look,

607
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 4: you know, I didn't know if they were gonna give

608
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 4: me a new deal and in in his belief at

609
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 4: that time, if I can't fight the best and fight

610
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 4: against the best, I'm just going to give it up.

611
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 4: But there is still an element in him when he

612
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 4: watch his interviews where he's literally still fighting to feed

613
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 4: his family and is kind of blessed and gifted with

614
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 4: this opportunity at a new deal, and it's clear the

615
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 4: company recognizes him as an action, fun fighter who but

616
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,120
Speaker 4: this gives him beyond just that. He may ultimately win

617
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,680
Speaker 4: it that way should our Da come out and find

618
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 4: himself exposed and too old, but either way, a four

619
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,160
Speaker 4: fight win streak, including one over a guy like our Da. Look,

620
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 4: he's fighting to be considered anything more than he is,

621
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 4: which is wild, fun mohawk brawler who gives you know,

622
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 4: who gives all and takes is willing to go through

623
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 4: hell every single time. No, this is a surprise move

624
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 4: in that other direction potential contendership, I mean, you know,

625
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 4: it's it's a wake up call everybody else and most

626
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 4: likely him if he gets this again, not likely to

627
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 4: do it, but at the very least we're gonna see

628
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 4: action because if Brian Barbaren.

629
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 2: Is not gonna walk down the old man and wear

630
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:05,360
Speaker 2: him out.

631
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 4: He's gonna get carved up trying to do so, so

632
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 4: expect a good one here on Saturday. That's why I

633
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 4: like those weird sort of cross cross road matchup. Normally,

634
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 4: for a legend like urda former champion, you would be like, well,

635
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 4: what does this fight have to offer him? But Luke,

636
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 4: he's legitimately still trying to contend. It's different than a

637
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 4: forty four year old Anderson Silver, right, so when you're

638
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 4: still trying to contend. We never thought it would be

639
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 4: Barberina in this spot, but hey, let's give him a

640
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 4: chance to put his head above water into you know,

641
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 4: the real grounds here and find out what he's made of. Man,

642
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 4: he you know, you know what he's made of, Luke

643
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 4: taking taking one or two to try to deliver one,

644
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 4: and he's gonna have.

645
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 3: To just very well rounded. Like when we talk about

646
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 3: battle tested, I mean, dude, nobody's like Urda means, you know,

647
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 3: in terms of guys who fought everyone, he might be

648
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 3: the highest achiever of them, you know what I mean.

649
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 3: Like there's guys like Jeremy Stevens who fought everyone, but

650
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 3: they got a lot of losses. He has a lot

651
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 3: of losses too. What is his record, Yeah, thirty one

652
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 3: to fourteen. It's because he fought a lot of hammers.

653
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 3: But he also won a title. He went a UFC

654
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 3: weight class title. That is very, very difficult to do.

655
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 3: And by the way I always talk about it, people

656
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,479
Speaker 3: forget he was this close to the Connor McGregor fight.

657
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 3: They had a presser and everything. Connor dressed him down. Yeah,

658
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 3: remember that.

659
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 4: I have the hotel key at my desk. Yeah, yeah,

660
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 4: with their two faces on it.

661
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 3: I have the Mayweather McGregor one. I have that one

662
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,479
Speaker 3: from the MGM. I still have that the other day. Actually,

663
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 3: all right, BC six and seventh ranked flight weights. To

664
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 3: tell you, Nicolau is going to fight Matt Schnell again,

665
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 3: six and seventh ranked respectively. Nicolau a heavy favorite at

666
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 3: minus three eighty to Schnell's plus three ten BC. Matt Schnell,

667
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 3: as we know, coming off well, he has had I

668
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 3: think a pretty decent run of late, although the Brandon

669
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 3: Royvill fight wasn't the greatest, although he had lost his

670
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 3: mom around that time, but he had the fight of

671
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 3: the year basically against Summadargie. Nicolau, by contrast, comes into

672
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 3: this contest in a slightly different position. He hasn't lost

673
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 3: since twenty eighteen. He has wins all in a row,

674
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 3: the last three minel Cop, Tim Elliott, and David de Vorak.

675
00:28:58,760 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 2: What do you think you see all the OZMA.

676
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is where that Nikola's gonna try to show

677
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 4: us if he is super legit. Five in a row,

678
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 4: eleven of his last twelve, Luke. So, Nikolau's been that

679
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 4: unheralded name in this division that we don't talk about

680
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 4: with the title, swapping hands constantly with the two with

681
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 4: h you know, uh moreno and Figuredo and Escarov was

682
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 4: in that picture. Now he's gone KAIKR France right in

683
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 4: that picture. Well, let's see if Nikolau belongs there, Luke,

684
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 4: based on the recent track records, I certainly get the

685
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 4: sentiment here the odds in the wind street that he's

686
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 4: on that he should be expected to do this.

687
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 2: But Schnell's no easy out.

688
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 4: He's kind of like one of those perfect guys that, yeah,

689
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 4: he juggles wins and losses, but every I mean, I

690
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 4: want to say, short of the champ, short of the title,

691
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 4: including the title, anybody can get anybody in the top

692
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 4: ten in this division. One twenty five, post Demetrius and

693
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 4: post shudo saving, it has been wild the wild West

694
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 4: in fun. So from that regard, I think we can

695
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 4: like putting a heavyweight fight on a fight night comin

696
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 4: event randomly, why does Chase Sherman know he show up?

697
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 4: That same reason put in a flyweight fight up pie

698
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 4: is starting to be that same thing right now.

699
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 2: Nicolau has he screamed to me that he's that dude.

700
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 4: Not yet, but it's gonna be hard to deny him

701
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 4: if he gets to the sixth straight victory.

702
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 3: Also, what I would say is that I think they

703
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 3: put this fight in front of a crowd for a reason.

704
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 3: Schnell delivers action win or lose. That dude delivers. I

705
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 3: think he's not on a card at the A. I mean,

706
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 3: I think he's probably fun of the Apex. I don't

707
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 3: have his record directly in front of me, but it

708
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 3: makes sense to put a fight like this that people think, oh,

709
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 3: it's a flyweight fight. Well it is, and Nikola is

710
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 3: entertaining as well. Schnell is like reliably entertaining every time,

711
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 3: and I think that's probably a big reason why he's

712
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 3: on this card as well.

713
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 4: A bunch of those Timilia guys in thisweight class. So

714
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 4: it's like any any given they can roll out of

715
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 4: bed and decide that they're choosing violent dude.

716
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 3: We know that, for example, like a small thing to consider.

717
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 3: We know that these guys fight injured all the time.

718
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 3: All Nikolau has to have is a slight little injury

719
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 3: and it could change the entire trajectory of this fight

720
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 3: or vice versa.

721
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 4: But has there been a point in Nicolau's run of

722
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 4: late where you felt like, oh, oh shit, here's a

723
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 4: title contender.

724
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 2: I haven't felt that.

725
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 3: Cop fight because Cop had had a lot of hype

726
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 3: coming over from Japan, and uh, I was surprised actually

727
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 3: how well Nikolau did. I kind of Thoughtkapp was gonna win.

728
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 3: And yeah, that one woke me up a little bit

729
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 3: for sure, for sure. Now here's the really interesting one

730
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 3: BC I got questions about and I can't believe the odds,

731
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 3: or maybe I can. Ty to Ivasa is back, speaking

732
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 3: of a crowd favorite dude, he's.

733
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 2: Back in like six days. Notice from that war we're gone.

734
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 2: I mean.

735
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 3: This is taking on Sergey Pavlovitch. Now, Pavlovich is a

736
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 3: very interesting guy. Right when he thought overim. Oh, dude,

737
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 3: oveream beat the fuck out of him. It wasn't even close.

738
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 3: Then he goes on a win streak against some respectable

739
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 3: names and then fights Derek Lewis. Some thought the fight

740
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 3: would stopped too early. Maybe Derek Lewis is on the decline.

741
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 3: We don't really know. But he got the win, and

742
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 3: now we find ourselves here against a legitimate banger in

743
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 3: ty to Ivasa. He's a plus one eighty underdog to

744
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 3: the minus two ten. Pavlovitch BC makes.

745
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 4: Sense of this with oddswise. I think it actually does

746
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 4: make sense because Tuivasa does have superhuman abilities, as he

747
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 4: showed us against God in the fight we just assume

748
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 4: would be one sided.

749
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 2: Why are we making this damn?

750
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 4: He nearly flipped the entire division upside down and really

751
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 4: became like a heavyweight Arturogatti in the process.

752
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 2: My question, though, is why get right.

753
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 4: Back into the fire this quickly against this difficulty of

754
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 4: an opponent. Now you can say, look, he's a gun

755
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 4: slang or Tai tovas.

756
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 2: So that's what you do in the UFC. It's what

757
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 2: the cowboys do. Man. Sometimes you get God, sometimes you

758
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 2: get them, but you always all about it look, it

759
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 2: feels like this is too hard of a matchup, too

760
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 2: soon for Tuivasa, meaning his opponent right here is seems

761
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 2: to be on the verge of showing us for real

762
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 2: or not because he's done some bad things to dudes

763
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 2: that are right around that line. What does Tuvasa have

764
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 2: to gain?

765
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 4: Like, Okay, he's got he's got to gain a chance

766
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 4: to come back against a guy who's red hot and

767
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 4: force himself back into contention. But true or false, did

768
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 4: Tuivasa earn standing in this division by how he fought

769
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 4: against God that this is almost unnecessary to come back quickly?

770
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 4: Maybe again, that's just who he's going to be. He's

771
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 4: here for a good time, not a long time, Michael

772
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 4: Chandler style. That's what he's about that life. No one's

773
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 4: questioning that. But should his handlers and team force him

774
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 4: to be when maybe you've taken a little bit longer

775
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 4: off a break That phone o ring again and it's

776
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 4: not Sergey Pavlovitch, Maybe it's okay, maybe it's not John Jones,

777
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 4: but maybe it's somebody else. Maybe it's Stepe Needing wanting

778
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 4: a big win on a comeback. Like what I'm saying here,

779
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 4: is he may have earned himself through goodwill and through

780
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 4: just being a badass in that gunfight, reasons not to

781
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 4: even need this for contendership. I was shocked to see

782
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 4: him back so soon.

783
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 2: I'm shocked at the UFC didn't make him the main

784
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 2: or comine event just on name alone, from what he.

785
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 4: Just did to Gone and what he's done previously as

786
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 4: a fan favorite. But speak to me directly on my

787
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 4: concerns about the matchmaking level for him and his team

788
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 4: this quickly. I mean, he could have waited around and

789
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 4: probably got anybody you wanted, almost, wouldn't you think that?

790
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 3: So I think again, having not spoken to them, I'm

791
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 3: going to make a guess, and this is something that

792
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 3: a lot of fighters have told me who were in

793
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 3: similar ish fights, and Hooker being one of them, which

794
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 3: was well, if you recall the fight with Gone, where

795
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 3: was most of the damage. Most of the damage was

796
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 3: to the body. Yes, of course he did obviously rock.

797
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 2: Oh he took incredible damage upstairs too. He did.

798
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong, But I'm saying I'm not I'm

799
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 3: not gonna be very clear about this. I'm not justifying

800
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 3: the logic as much as I am repeating it. And

801
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 3: what I think a lot of these guys say is

802
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 3: when they get like badly leg kicked or hurt to

803
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 3: the body, real bad, even if there was a lot

804
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 3: of head trauma that accompanied it, they kind of make

805
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 3: it out to be well, look at the totality of

806
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 3: the targeting. It wasn't strictly about just to the head.

807
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 3: I think he'd probably say something like that. I think

808
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I'm gonna I've heard it numerous

809
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 3: times from guys.

810
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 2: That's the first thing i'd say. Secondly, limit a little

811
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 2: curveball at you.

812
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 3: Taya Tui Vasa is ranked fourth, Sarah gay Pavlovich is

813
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 3: ranked fifth. I think that probably has more to do

814
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 3: with it. Plus you mentioned the name, Well, why does

815
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:54,320
Speaker 3: that more do with He's.

816
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you. It's gonna tell you fair enough.

817
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you it's all about what John Jones

818
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 3: is doing to this division. Because John Jones is apparently

819
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 3: reportedly two eighty five or bus not the weight, but

820
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 3: the UFC event which puts it around March, if my

821
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 3: math is correct. Now we don't know is he gonna

822
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 3: fight Stepe? Probably not, he's out, but Stepe is not

823
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 3: just out for John, Steepe is out for everyone. His

824
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 3: father just died, quite tragic. He's not gonna compete. So

825
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 3: then it's like, well, it's John gonna fight Francis.

826
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 2: We don't know.

827
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 3: Is John gonna fight Curtis Blades, We don't know. There

828
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,959
Speaker 3: is Cyril Gon sitting out there. But Ty just fought

829
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 3: him literally, either up or down. The only fight from

830
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 3: a ranking standpoint that makes sense for Tye two.

831
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 2: As when I said the ranking.

832
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 3: Standpoint is Sarah gay Pavlovitch, I do agree with you

833
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 3: that the.

834
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 2: Timing on this is kind of surprising.

835
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 4: Well, it's also a high risk, low reward, right, You're

836
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 4: like the third fourth fight on a fight.

837
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 3: How much of this let be so let me pitch

838
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 3: it to you. How much of this is Ty wanted

839
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 3: to just get that w back.

840
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 4: I think it's him just being like, I live for

841
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:58,879
Speaker 4: the moment, I live for now. I mean the guy,

842
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,280
Speaker 4: that's what the guy does. Let's everybody spit in the shoe,

843
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 4: and that's what he does at all times. He just

844
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 4: rolls the dice and he's an absolute gaucho.

845
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 2: You know. I try to call myself the last American

846
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 2: gaucho and you make fun. Oh that was Martin.

847
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 4: Martin is the last I mean he might be the

848
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 4: last actual or cowboy running around that Martin batter.

849
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 2: We love that guy.

850
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 4: But the deal is this, Luke I thought he secured

851
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 4: standing that people would kill for. Which is you know

852
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:24,879
Speaker 4: when you get up and you're either a heavyweight title

853
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 4: contender or you're just a super large attraction. Look like,

854
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 4: didn't what are the performance against Gohn out of anything

855
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 4: else show you?

856
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 2: Well?

857
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 4: One that he's got this superpower that can literally work

858
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 4: against anybody in the world at any given night. The

859
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 4: fact that he can lure you into a war and

860
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 4: he can take unspeakable damage and put you in a

861
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 4: dangerous spot.

862
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 2: But what does that ultimately mean?

863
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 4: That means you are guaranteed ratings bonanza, whether that is

864
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 4: a fight night main event against anybody. He can almost

865
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 4: take that role from Derek Lewis. Maybe that was a

866
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,399
Speaker 4: transaction that happened when he stopped Derek Lewis, Or that

867
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 4: means put you in the coal main event on any

868
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 4: pay per view, Like you're just perfect accompanying shoulder programming

869
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 4: to mix with whatever else. So you come back against

870
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 4: guy with high ability and record, no name or fanfare,

871
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 4: and we're doing it in the in between portion of

872
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 4: a UFC Fight Night card in Orlando. Like like, I'm

873
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 4: just saying, like they whatever he would gain by this,

874
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 4: you're saying like this is the best he could have

875
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 4: done just to stay busy in the rankings, which is

876
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 4: take a step backwards and fight a guy who's ranked

877
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 4: less than him.

878
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 2: Wouldn't you just.

879
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 4: Wait for the next come round when they're like, Okay,

880
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 4: we need a main event, let's do tie against I

881
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 4: don't know, Blade, I don't know, like.

882
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 2: Me, like whoever you want to do? Like does he

883
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 2: really strike you?

884
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 3: I'm not saying he's done, That's not what I'm saying,

885
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 3: But does he strike you as particularly discerning about these matters?

886
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 4: I think him and his management team should be at

887
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 4: that spot realizing what they have is a special drawing

888
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 4: card that very few people have.

889
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, it's not going to last forever.

890
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 4: If you're tied to Vasa against guys who are that

891
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 4: much skilled than you, and for you to be able

892
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 4: to compete against them, you got to go in there

893
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 4: and go balls out.

894
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 2: That's what he does. That's not going to last forever. Luke.

895
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 4: But this is his peak sort of earning window within

896
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 4: that regard. That's why I brought up, Look, if you're

897
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 4: not gonna put John Jones in against Francis for the

898
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 4: full title or against Cyril for the interim or Steepe

899
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 4: now not happening, what's the next best object.

900
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 2: My laptop that you're fucking smash.

901
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 4: Ti Toaso in a pay per view main event. I

902
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 4: think Ty's brand is literally at that level. Yet if

903
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 4: you go in two three months, when was that fight?

904
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:23,240
Speaker 4: How what's the turnaround?

905
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 2: Three? I will tell you if you go in three

906
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 2: or four months later, that was September, so that was

907
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 2: month nine. We're in month what eleven to the end

908
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 2: of it?

909
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, so on two months in a week's notice, you're

910
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 4: taking on a guy not even in the main or

911
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 4: Cole Maine on an in between fight night card where if.

912
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 2: You lose, it's almost three months.

913
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 4: So if you lose, doesn't that set you back? Or

914
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 4: is your arguing going to be ABC whatever? He is

915
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,439
Speaker 4: accomplished by fighting that way against Gon. He can't lose

916
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 4: that against Bevac, so what or not to be back

917
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 4: against Pavlovich? So why not take the payday and the

918
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 4: opportunity anyway. I just feel like if they were a

919
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 4: little bit more discerning about where their brand's actually at,

920
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 4: this guy's to me automatic main event unless it's a

921
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 4: pay per view call man.

922
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 2: It's interesting.

923
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 3: I hadn't thought too much about him in that way,

924
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 3: except to say I agree with you about his ability

925
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 3: and certainly about how much.

926
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 4: This isn't where the money's different. We always say when

927
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 4: you get to the pay per view level, the money

928
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 4: is different. That's true, Like you get to the championship,

929
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 4: the money is different. But isn't the money different when

930
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 4: you are a regular main eventor as opposed.

931
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 2: To not being on the fight night level. That the

932
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 2: money's got to be different there too, right.

933
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 3: I don't think the money's different except by contract snorty or.

934
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 2: So getting a five round main event doesn't automatically give

935
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 2: you more money. I don't believe so well. I guess

936
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 2: it can depend.

937
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 3: I think there are a couple of fighters like it

938
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 3: doesn't worry you might get something like that.

939
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 4: But again, it's not that this is not an unwinnable fight.

940
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 4: The odds are close for a reason. But he may

941
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 4: go back there two months and a week after a war, it.

942
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 3: Was a war September third, so you have the rest

943
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 3: of that month, all of October and then most of November.

944
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 3: You're talking about three months. But still hold on, he

945
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 3: had the spar during that time. I mean, your brain's

946
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 3: getting rattled a little bit.

947
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 2: I agree with you.

948
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,280
Speaker 4: I would if you're going to come back that quickly

949
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 4: on the turnaround, it better be worth it. Is this

950
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 4: fight worth it on paper? No, unless the money's better

951
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 4: than I thought.

952
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 3: He fought in January, so this is gonna be his

953
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 3: third fight this year, which is not a lot, but

954
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 3: it's definitely active.

955
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 2: It certainly acts like, Look, you would turn around for

956
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 2: John Jones and a Harpeat. You probably turn around for Steepe.

957
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 3: You'd probably turn anybody.

958
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 2: That can elevate you. Pavlovitch can't elevate him. He can't,

959
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 2: so now you're gonna do.

960
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 3: That's the weird part because if he gets a knockout

961
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 3: on one, be like, oh that's what Ty does.

962
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 2: Who the fuck is Pavlovich?

963
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 3: Even though Pavlovich is pretty The other part, too, is

964
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 3: like I think you'll see you might be trying to

965
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 3: figure out how how good is Pavlovitch because he fought

966
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 3: over him and I think that was his UFC debut

967
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 3: and he got If you go watch the fight, you're like, dud,

968
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:37,399
Speaker 3: why is this guy in the UFC?

969
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 2: Like you can't even understand it? And then Gannon, what

970
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,479
Speaker 2: are you doing? Yeah? A little bit? Well he's better built.

971
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 3: Sean Gannon had a Sean Gannon was built like a

972
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 3: guy who backs groceries too.

973
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 2: Huh. He had bad tit tats. Sean Gannon had bad

974
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 2: titty tats. Yeah, tattoo on t t Remember he isn't

975
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 2: that Brandon Lee Hinkle. Oh you're saying, I'm confusing Hinkles.

976
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 2: Shitty titt No, no, I can't no, no, no, no,

977
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 2: no no. Sean Gannon in his one fight had shitty titty.

978
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 3: Let me see. I want to see Sean Gannon. Can

979
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 3: we put him up on screen?

980
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 2: Can you type in shitty titty tests into Google?

981
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 3: Is that the thing I want to see? I have

982
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,919
Speaker 3: forgotten how Oh you're right? He had the dragons? Good lord,

983
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 3: I completely forgot about the dragons.

984
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 2: Hey, could you put that?

985
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 3: If you guys find a picture of him looking I

986
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 3: mean just looking like me and BC after a weekend

987
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 3: of drinking and donuts.

988
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 2: Just the worst build ever, just get him in a

989
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:25,879
Speaker 2: hockey jersey can sit right between us.

990
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 3: Rare gaff, pull that our gaff and miniachpector. If you

991
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 3: can get that photo, let us know. We'd love to

992
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 3: show it to the audience. It's fucking hilarious. But the

993
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,280
Speaker 3: point being is Pavlovitch is built. He's a big fucking dude,

994
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 3: and he had nice wins. He was dusting people off,

995
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 3: but it was like the shmil after Rocky moffs in

996
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 3: the world who are tough but like and then he'd

997
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 3: beat Derek Lewis, but Derek Luis might be on the decline,

998
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 3: maybe the stop which was a little bit early, and

999
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 3: you're like, Okay, how good is he?

1000
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 2: Here's the funny part.

1001
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 3: If he goes in there and let's just say, let's

1002
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 3: just say, if Pavlovitch goes in there in dust Ty

1003
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 3: to we Vasa, are you gonna say, Oh, it's because

1004
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 3: his brain didn't recover.

1005
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 2: He got back in there too fast.

1006
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 4: Dude, Ty could win this fight, but take too much

1007
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 4: damage in winning. Where I may say that afterwards, I

1008
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 4: think either way I'm going to exit this going isn't

1009
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 4: a bad choice by the UFC too, or am I

1010
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 4: overvaluing Tie's value on.

1011
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 2: A No, I think you're not.

1012
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 4: Think of how many in between fight cards that the

1013
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 4: sort of casual bone and a lot of us is

1014
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 4: to look at it and go, oh man, there ain't

1015
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 4: shit on that card. No, and more often than not

1016
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 4: it ends up winning us over. And there's some sneaky

1017
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 4: fights in between. But if I see Tie in a

1018
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 4: man or co man, I'm gonna like, dude, it doesn't

1019
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 4: matter who he's fighting, but he's not in that right now,

1020
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 4: coming off of his most insane performance today, you know,

1021
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 4: outside of the Derek Lewis win. So just just a thought.

1022
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 4: I have questions. I'd be interested in hearing the reason.

1023
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,320
Speaker 3: Well, the good news is that UFC, among other promoters

1024
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 3: have lobbied the state to make sure that the fighter

1025
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,439
Speaker 3: purses don't get released, so we won't know.

1026
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 4: How much you got paid for this, so we don't

1027
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 4: release fighter purses. Or you saw the Violet relations.

1028
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 2: Right, But that's a USTATA issue, not a commission issue.

1029
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 3: I don't believe I think they're all related. It could

1030
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 3: in some states they might be. I don't have a

1031
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 3: whole lot to say about this one. I'm curious to

1032
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 3: se Kyle Dalkas back so soon after breaking his face.

1033
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 3: He's taking on Eric anders Ya.

1034
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 2: Boy, Yeah, well that's gonna probably be a war, right,

1035
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 2: I mean they do that.

1036
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 3: I think it'll be a war for as long as

1037
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 3: it lasts. I have a hard time seeing how that

1038
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 3: one goes three?

1039
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 4: What do you think about this featured prelim war that

1040
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 4: they're offering us?

1041
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 2: Which one is that?

1042
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,720
Speaker 4: Nico Price at minus one forty at Welter Wade against

1043
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,760
Speaker 4: Phil Rowe plus one twenty Nico he comes to Bang.

1044
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,479
Speaker 4: I think Nico's got like eight kids. My man hates

1045
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 4: he has five kids. He needs to win here now

1046
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 4: he claims to give up Weed.

1047
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 2: Who hates Condoms Moore him or herschel Walker. My god,

1048
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 2: Antonio CROMARTI would be the Antonio Cromarty dude. I like

1049
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 2: Nico Price. In fact, I tried.

1050
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 4: We almost had him on the show today, Luke and

1051
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 4: I And he comes to Bang. But time is going

1052
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 4: to be running out if he doesn't.

1053
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 2: Did you hear what he was out?

1054
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 3: And he said he blew up his ACL in twenty

1055
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 3: eighteen and fought on it the whole bott so apparently

1056
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 3: he had the way he explained it was spalking a

1057
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 3: lot of week then right. So, the way he explained

1058
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,479
Speaker 3: it was he had partially torn it before the fight,

1059
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 3: then really fucked it up during the fight, and then

1060
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 3: the subsequent years never got it fixed. Then tore his MCL,

1061
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 3: then tore his LCL. The only thing that remained was

1062
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 3: the PCL of the four pieces. He finally had that repaired.

1063
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 3: He's been off for what like fourteen months something like that,

1064
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 3: and so now he's back. Devastating puncher, heavy hitter, crazy

1065
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 3: guy who just goes forward all the time.

1066
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 2: He's trying to harness the crazy.

1067
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 4: But against Michelle Padeda and that decision lost, the crazy

1068
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 4: came back quick.

1069
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 2: Look, it came back pretty quick by like round two BC.

1070
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 3: How about this, Angela Hill has taken on one of

1071
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 3: my favorite fighters in Emily Ducatti close fight. Angela Hill

1072
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 3: plus one hundred Dukati at minus one twenty Dukati had

1073
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 3: a great UFC debut against Jessica Penny. I believe now

1074
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 3: Hill in this fight is going to have twenty two

1075
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 3: UFC fights, which will make her the most for a

1076
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 3: female fighter.

1077
00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 2: In she is.

1078
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 4: Let's be fair, I mean, the women's game in the

1079
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 4: UFC is so short that we're sort of finally seeing

1080
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 4: that first generation start to go at It's like anytime

1081
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 4: another clausea Carolina go away, it's you know, breaks my

1082
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 4: heart as the original one fifteen class. But in this case,

1083
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 4: Luke Hill's been around long enough that if she ends

1084
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 4: up getting a Jim Miller Matt Brown type, you know

1085
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 4: what I.

1086
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 2: Mean, victory tour on the way out here there he is,

1087
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 2: Oh my god, can we go right to it.

1088
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 3: It's a little Jesus Christ that's blown up. That's what

1089
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 3: I see in my dreams on the CVC.

1090
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 2: That's scary. That's that's that. Yeah, that's that's a shitty

1091
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 2: chest at right there. Wow, thank you guys for bringing

1092
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 2: that up in the back Luke. I will say this,

1093
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 2: if Hill gets her victory lap.

1094
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 4: For doing this, which is a great accomplishment being the

1095
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 4: you know, the most active female fighter in UFC history,

1096
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,280
Speaker 4: that's great. But I like the matchmaking here against Emily Ducati,

1097
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 4: who's a minus one twenty favorite. Looked good in the

1098
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 4: debut coming over from.

1099
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 2: In Victim Right. She fought in Belatar years ago as well.

1100
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 4: It's very good boxer, but he'll only a plus one

1101
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 4: hundred underdog here. He has not gone her way of late.

1102
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 4: Remember there was two moments where Angela Hill started to

1103
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 4: look like she was making some news. Sh had that

1104
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 4: stoppage maybe against what was it the stoppage win where

1105
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 4: you're just like, oh shit, okay, but uh now she

1106
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 4: needs to win to stay relevant. Ducatti needs to win

1107
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 4: to get ahead in this race. So I like this

1108
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:10,399
Speaker 4: matchup a lot.

1109
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 3: But yeah, Hill is nearly nearly five hundred, she's fourteen

1110
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 3: and twelve overall, and he.

1111
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 4: Has tremendous abs for this fight. She's been flaunting them

1112
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 4: on Instagram.

1113
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 2: Lucas. Yeah.

1114
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 3: Now she is coming off of a win over lu

1115
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 3: Pizza Godinaz. But Lupy Godinaz I think is well below

1116
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 3: Angela's level. Ducatti does not appear to be well below

1117
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 3: her level.

1118
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 4: Dukatti should win this if the stocks are going in

1119
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 4: the direction we think, but he'll still going to be

1120
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:33,399
Speaker 4: saying kill.

1121
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 3: The one weapon she retains is she just pushes apace.

1122
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 3: The volume is just torrential, so I think that could

1123
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 3: end up making a bit of a difference. Also in

1124
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 3: this car, be see it's a pretty good card.

1125
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 2: Actually, just real quick, she'd be breaking she'll be she'll

1126
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 2: be breaking a tie.

1127
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 4: With Jessica and Doradge for the most fights. But Androge

1128
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 4: is gonna come back and break that.

1129
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 2: Yeah still for twenty two Yeah, which, in the words

1130
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 2: of Brian Campbell, I started off the conversation this way

1131
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:58,760
Speaker 2: with that Androge mentioned, Yeah, didn't didn't mention random Marcos

1132
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 2: who has eighteen which is as well nun as at seventeen. Uh.

1133
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 3: Any thoughts about clelig Weedi versus Hot Sauce Scott's Holtzmann, No,

1134
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 3: not too much. Michael Johnson is back against Mark ga Casey,

1135
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 3: who has turned into something of a bit of a

1136
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:11,240
Speaker 3: wrestler out.

1137
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 2: Of the UK.

1138
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 4: This is going to be interesting to me becausely favored

1139
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 4: case You're going to stay the course when when when

1140
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 4: Michael Johnson's coming out here slinging left hands, because nobody's

1141
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 4: ever been better, no one's ever been as spectacular for

1142
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 4: having a crappy record that Michael Johnson. I mean that

1143
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:26,439
Speaker 4: that disparity is just wide still still quick, still, it's hard.

1144
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 2: Look yep. Uh.

1145
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 3: Tracy Cortes taking by the way, and this is a

1146
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 3: pick them fight minus one both sides. Tracy Cortez taking

1147
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 3: it on Amanda he Boss, very good fight.

1148
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 4: So this is a beasi special on a few you know,

1149
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 4: you know, I don't want to call this super slop.

1150
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,439
Speaker 2: It's not. It's a good fight. It's a good ass

1151
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 2: fight in which they both you know, he Boss coming

1152
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 2: down at the moment, trying to to you know, clean

1153
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,439
Speaker 2: up and get back and put together another run.

1154
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 4: But this would be the biggest win for Cortez's career

1155
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 4: right up to this point. If she gets it, I mean,

1156
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 4: he should handle her. But these odds are close. This

1157
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 4: is a big fight for both of them.

1158
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 3: He bost to your point, sir, she beat Page van

1159
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 3: Zan I forget to have the win. After that she

1160
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 3: was looking good, but since then it's been a bit

1161
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 3: of a return to me.

1162
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:03,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then she went up to one twenty five

1163
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 4: and had a loss there as well, So she's going

1164
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 4: to need to win here. I like her chances on paper,

1165
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 4: but it's basically a pick on right here. I mean,

1166
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 4: the Cortez can bring the fight to the ground, but

1167
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 4: if they trade evenly on the feet, I like he boss.

1168
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 3: Here fair enough. Also in this card, Marcelo Rojo out

1169
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 3: of Argentina. And then the last one, as my wife

1170
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 3: would say, Jasmine because it's spelled with a y jua

1171
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 3: A Ghee taking on Isella Nunez.

1172
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 2: Boy, Jade Ghee is a is a talent? Is that

1173
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 2: a Columbian fighter? No, I think she's a Mexican. I

1174
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:34,280
Speaker 2: think she's Mexican.

1175
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 4: Oh, she looked great on a prelim right.

1176
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 3: Yes, she made her UFC debut and she wasn't quite

1177
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 3: as in command I think as we had thought she

1178
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 3: would be. But overall looked very good and the overall

1179
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 3: record is obviously quite good. And just just on tape, dude,

1180
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 3: Wadeghee looks like she could be quite a handful that

1181
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:54,879
Speaker 3: she's going to be opening up the card minus three

1182
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 3: point fifteen on this motherfucker.

1183
00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 4: So no mention of Darren elkins by you you're over him, daranilk.

1184
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 2: It's taking on Jonathan Pierce. I mean he's heavily underdogged here.

1185
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 2: I don't he makes batchit crazy fights though, that's what

1186
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 2: he does. He welcomes your damage, the damage. There's actually

1187
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 2: a sign on his chest that welcomes it. Yeah. Would

1188
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 2: you get the heart for Whaler's tattoo on your chest? No?

1189
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:18,839
Speaker 4: No, I mean, look, I I went to Whaler's games

1190
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 4: in the last couple of years, but I you know,

1191
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,720
Speaker 4: even me wearing this, I wasn't like a Whaler's diehard

1192
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 4: as a kid, you know, it's more of a Bruins fan.

1193
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 2: Are there whales off the coast of Connecticut? There were

1194
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 2: at some point? You know, Groton High.

1195
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 3: School is the Whalers and y'all just slaughtered and mascareed

1196
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 3: the motherfuckers the whales. Probably, Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right,

1197
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 3: let's talk a little bit of if we can be.

1198
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 2: That's what my people did. But what have your people

1199
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 2: done in Doha? I'm not Katari or in New Delhi,

1200
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 2: I'm not Indian or in DC?

1201
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 4: What have they been doing there for years? Luke crime,

1202
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 4: Yeah crack got my job back. Yeah, Mayor for life.

1203
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 4: Marion Barry, bitch set me up the whole. I did

1204
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:00,360
Speaker 4: explain more coffee.

1205
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 3: I had to explain Marion Barry to my in laws

1206
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 3: over Thanksgiving. They're like, so they caught the old mayor

1207
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 3: smoking crack with a prostitute in a hotel room.

1208
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 2: You could just bring however you want to do it,

1209
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 2: Just just bring the whole Duncan thing. Hey, did you

1210
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 2: know he watches racist soccer? What? He's a big serif?

1211
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 3: Love loves the Italians he just loves him. What's the score?

1212
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 2: Well? How much time in the game? What? Yeah?

1213
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 3: But well but they're still in the group stage, so

1214
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 3: it doesn't really matter, right, like France is already in.

1215
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 2: Look, do you need more of this coffee? As I'm

1216
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 2: as I'm re rereapping yeh yeah yah yeah, as you

1217
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 2: rewreck your ballsack? I mean, that's that's the original rewracker.

1218
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 3: What would be more fun rewracking your ballsack or watching

1219
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 3: tests and Fury's next fight?

1220
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 2: I honestly don't know. I got some things I actually

1221
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 2: want to talk, all right, so let's talk about that.

1222
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 3: We'll get into the weekend boxing preview topic number three here,

1223
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 3: topic two.

1224
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,240
Speaker 2: I guess you're gonna need a splendor Yeah. Probably.

1225
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 3: Uh, let's see, we've got a few things happening. We'll

1226
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:59,439
Speaker 3: talk about the one Francisco Estrada against Chopo Latito fight,

1227
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 3: but let's start with the one that's gonna be an

1228
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 3: ESPN plus. The card kicks off at one pm Eastern

1229
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 3: Tyson Fury against Derek Chiesara three, who, let's see, beat

1230
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 3: him on the cards the first time, his corner stopped

1231
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 3: to fight in the second time. B see why In

1232
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 3: the mother fuck is this fight happening in theory? Did

1233
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 3: you put us London there?

1234
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 2: Not yet?

1235
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:27,240
Speaker 4: The biggest theory is this Tyson Fury wants apparently according

1236
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 4: to people close to him that I talked to, all

1237
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:31,760
Speaker 4: this stuff is smoking marries. He wants to fight Usik

1238
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 4: for the four Belts.

1239
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 2: Usik.

1240
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 4: We know Alexander Husik is heard and can't fight to

1241
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,320
Speaker 4: at least March. So for Tyson at the end of

1242
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 4: the day, this is just to stay busy. This is

1243
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,320
Speaker 4: just make a big another big bank, a big event.

1244
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 4: And for some whatever reason, whenever Tyson Fury had talked

1245
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 4: about the remaining opponents available to him that he wanted

1246
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 4: to fight, that he was willing to fight before retirement.

1247
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 2: Surprisingly, Derek Tessaur's name would always come up in that.

1248
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 4: So I don't know if this is Tyson Fury liking

1249
00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:58,760
Speaker 4: Chessaura as a bloke.

1250
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 2: Luke. They fought fight twice.

1251
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 4: Tyson got the better and boast, as you mentioned, but

1252
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 4: it's largely unnecessary. It's still going to be somewhat of

1253
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 4: an event because it's Tyson Fury, you know what I'm saying,

1254
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 4: Like arguably the best heavyweight of this era, one of

1255
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 4: the best of all time, still unbeaten, and yes, we

1256
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 4: hope still going to fight for those four belts to

1257
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:20,280
Speaker 4: some point next year. But in any Tyson Fury media

1258
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 4: cycle or build up which has been this ahead of

1259
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 4: this fight, you're always going to.

1260
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 2: Get something, Luke. I remember being ahead of the second

1261
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 2: while they're fighting.

1262
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 4: He was talking about how he masturbated seven times a

1263
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 4: day and training camp to prepare. I mean, there's always

1264
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 4: like something coming out of it. Recently it was constant

1265
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 4: retirement talk. The narrative now, whether he's talking to Carl

1266
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 4: Frampton on btfsport, when he's on them may Our with Ariel,

1267
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 4: whether who's talking with anybody.

1268
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 2: I was supposed to interview the other day.

1269
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 4: It fell apart the last minute, but he probably would

1270
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 4: have told me the same thing. Have you noticed, Luke,

1271
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 4: what's been coming out of these Fury interviews. Some of

1272
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 4: it feels real given his history of mental health challenges

1273
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 4: and in the hunger that with a fighter and the

1274
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 4: addiction of being a fighter, And some of it also

1275
00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 4: feels like, what are we going to talk about this

1276
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 4: outside of this fight? Which is unnecessary? Is this just

1277
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 4: Tyson Fury giving us something to talk about? So the

1278
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 4: things in question, Luca is in every interview, Fury is

1279
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 4: basically saying I don't want to box anymore.

1280
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 2: That retirement stuff is real. I don't want There's nothing

1281
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:14,280
Speaker 2: for me accomplish anymore.

1282
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 4: I've done it all, but I'm addicted to this game

1283
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 4: because if I'm not training to fight, or fighting or

1284
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 4: coming off of a training camp for a fight, I

1285
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 4: don't trust my mentals. I know I'm going to go

1286
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 4: back to where I was in the aftermath of the

1287
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 4: upset went over Vladimir Klitch going twenty fifteen, which, if

1288
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 4: you forgot ad nauseam a million times in an insane

1289
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 4: comeback story of three years into the whole of depression

1290
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 4: and weight gain and drug abuse and all that and

1291
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 4: suicidal thoughts to come all the way back and win

1292
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 4: back the championship.

1293
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:44,399
Speaker 2: Luke Thomas, is.

1294
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 4: Any of this not only for real and how it

1295
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 4: could impact whether this third fight is close or not.

1296
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 4: But if it's all taken at face value, are some

1297
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 4: of these early warning signs that maybe we and Team

1298
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 4: Tyson should pick up on where he's straight up telling

1299
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 4: you I don't want to be in the ring on Saturday.

1300
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 4: I don't want to do this anymore. But if I don't,

1301
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:06,439
Speaker 4: I'm going to lose control of this.

1302
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 2: This is the only thing.

1303
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 4: I have left that gives me purpose and gives me strength.

1304
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 4: He's straight up telling us I don't want to be

1305
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 4: here what I have to and I know I do.

1306
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 4: Is that some type of secret selling point to try

1307
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 4: to get you to watch this fight?

1308
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 3: Or I take him out his word? I think it's

1309
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 3: what happened to Bjpen. I mean, I don't know, I've

1310
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 3: not had a but how.

1311
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 2: Do you take Tyson at his word when everything we've

1312
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 2: heard in the last six months every other day was

1313
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 2: I'm retiring today, oh tomorrow, I'm fighting. He could just

1314
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 2: be lying.

1315
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 3: I mean, he's a professional salesman right now. To that point,

1316
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 3: then there's just really no way to know. However, However,

1317
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 3: some of the reasons why that could be true line up.

1318
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 3: It does make sense that he might be doing that.

1319
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 3: It does make sense that that could be a motivator here.

1320
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 3: It's really interesting. We haven't really talked about it very much,

1321
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 3: mostly because the candidacies are all quite sad. This weird

1322
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:55,320
Speaker 3: pipeline where guys in combat sports stay in combat sports

1323
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 3: too long and then they get out of it. And

1324
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 3: they run for office. And I mean this quite sincerely.

1325
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 3: I think a big part of them running for office

1326
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 3: is a lot of delusion of grandeur, but.

1327
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 2: Also they just need something to fucking do.

1328
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 3: Like Tyson Fury is still capable of winning, so he

1329
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,399
Speaker 3: doesn't have to go that more dramatic route of I'm

1330
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:15,799
Speaker 3: gonna go run for public office or some shit like that,

1331
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 3: but in the sense that it occupies him and it

1332
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,280
Speaker 3: keeps them steady and it keeps them safe.

1333
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 2: Dude, I've had people who were.

1334
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 3: Like, you know, I'm not gonna name who the fighter was,

1335
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 3: but I've had coaches tell me like they needed that fight, yea,

1336
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 3: just to stop drinking or something like that, just to

1337
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:34,720
Speaker 3: get off whatever terrible thing they were doing in their life.

1338
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 3: Like that's a real that's a real thing. So he

1339
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 3: could be using that as a way to get people

1340
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 3: to watch this, because if you're just trying to sell

1341
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:43,280
Speaker 3: the fight.

1342
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 2: On fight terms, it's like, dude.

1343
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 3: Derek Chizora, and who, by the way, I don't think

1344
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 3: is a bad fighter. Yeah, I like Derek Chizora. I'm

1345
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 3: not saying shit about him, But the younger version of

1346
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 3: Derek Chuzora had nothing for Tyson Furiy twice. There's just

1347
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 3: no reason to think on boxing terms it would be

1348
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 3: any different. I don't know to answer that question. It

1349
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:04,919
Speaker 3: does worry me, but it would make sense. It would

1350
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:05,399
Speaker 3: make sense.

1351
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,359
Speaker 4: It's hard because again, anybody else, you'd take them at

1352
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 4: their word. Here Tyson fir I mean, look, we've been

1353
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 4: through this.

1354
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 2: I've interviewed him. I had him hang up on me,

1355
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 2: like you either get him when he's did call you

1356
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 2: a sausage. No, but he called me. He may have

1357
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:17,320
Speaker 2: called me a dasser.

1358
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 4: But the whole point is, like whatever in the moment

1359
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 4: he's feeling, he's gonna say, whether it's true or not.

1360
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 4: We've come to know that people still fall for that though,

1361
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 4: and make headlines out of it constantly. But something about

1362
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 4: this felt felt real given his history, so I think

1363
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 4: that you gotta take it seriously. But I do have

1364
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 4: concerns for him. I mean, look, if we're being honest

1365
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 4: on the outside looking in, when we have seen Fury

1366
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 4: come on camera, show up at fights, right, showed up

1367
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 4: at the USK Joshua rematch, and what's very slurring his

1368
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 4: speech on the camera.

1369
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:46,280
Speaker 2: Afterwards, people are like, man, I look like he's on drugs.

1370
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 4: Like I wouldn't doubt if at some point in his

1371
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 4: larger inactivity over the last couple of years, coming back

1372
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 4: for the big wilder fights but not being you know,

1373
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 4: two three times a year. I wonder, Luke, if he

1374
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 4: got a taste of the old lifestyle again and it

1375
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 4: did scare him, Like I could lose roll of this

1376
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 4: very quickly. So is there a merit to that idea

1377
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 4: that that he has to do this to hold this together?

1378
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 4: That might be true, but is that enough to get

1379
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 4: a watch compromise him? Or but you know, are you

1380
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:14,839
Speaker 4: watching under the grossest terms in fact, if he you know,

1381
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 4: are we only watching to see if he gets caught,

1382
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 4: to see if like his mentals are not in order

1383
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 4: and he gets caught into a war.

1384
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 2: So then it becomes kind of dark in a way. Right, Yeah, Well,

1385
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 2: I mean why would you watch this fight? Well? One,

1386
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 2: nothing else to do. That's one. Two, you're a big

1387
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 2: Tyson Fury fan, which is fine.

1388
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 3: If you're boxing fan. You got to see what Yeah,

1389
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 3: if you're a boxing fan. Plus, there's other fights in

1390
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 3: this card that are actually are not so bad. And

1391
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 3: then three to the other point, like does Tyson have

1392
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 3: some kind of issue that is a long term concern

1393
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 3: that will have a short term boxing ramification.

1394
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 2: I tend to think not in this case, uh, not.

1395
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 3: That that he doesn't have the issue, but that it

1396
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 3: won't show up in a win or a loss. By

1397
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 3: the way Test and Fury minus. But this is boxing,

1398
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 3: so the odds are going to be different. But minus

1399
00:57:56,560 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 3: twenty five hundred Derek Chisora plus twelve one hundred, I mean,

1400
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 3: you just got to be shitting So.

1401
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 2: If you don't know much about your story, I mean,

1402
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 2: he's a brawler, he's a you know, nicknas. He's not

1403
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 2: a pay per view though, right, it's just no, it's

1404
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 2: it's actually on for at least for the States. It's

1405
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 2: just on the regular plus there.

1406
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 4: But like I mean, Trista is gonna try to get

1407
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 4: inside and make it a fight in a brawl. He's

1408
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 4: just you know, slower and always raw than he then

1409
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 4: even was in his prime.

1410
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 2: So I don't know, looke it. I wish the best

1411
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 2: for Tyson.

1412
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 4: I want Tyson Furry versus Alexander Husic next year for

1413
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 4: all four belts, whether you know wherever Saudi Arabia for

1414
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 4: a ton of money for both, sure, let's do it.

1415
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 4: I hope we get there. There is that part of

1416
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 4: me though, because the fur is constant unpredictability. That has

1417
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 4: me nervous, even though some people I talk to you again,

1418
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 4: They're like, no, if the money's there, Tyson's taking this

1419
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 4: fight against Ustick, he'll be favored to win.

1420
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 2: We both think he would be busick. That's not the.

1421
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 4: Question here, It's the question is on you know, at

1422
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 4: the right time. Is Tyson in the right frame of

1423
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 4: mind where he actually wants this as a challenge because

1424
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 4: he used to fight would be a legitimate challenge.

1425
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 2: There's no other heavyweight like that in a lot of ways,

1426
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 2: So I want Tyson to want this four belt fight, Luke,

1427
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 2: I want to get here.

1428
00:58:57,520 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 4: But some of this has me a little concerned. Some

1429
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 4: of the has me fearful that I'm getting caught up

1430
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 4: in it too to try to put a frame around it,

1431
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 4: and that's Tyson's job to sell it to me. I

1432
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 4: don't really know, because Luke, I mean when Mike Tyson retired,

1433
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 4: we thought the same thing.

1434
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 2: Man, what's this guy gonna look like in five ten years?

1435
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 2: You know? Can he finds something else that gives him

1436
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 2: that satisfaction.

1437
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 4: I think knowing Furious history that's always going to be

1438
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 4: in play, So I would like to see him begin

1439
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 4: to find some interest separate from this, or to his point,

1440
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 4: he will be that guy in his forties who are

1441
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 4: still out there and we're going to have to try

1442
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 4: to remove. But maybe it'll be fighting nothing but YouTubers

1443
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 4: by then.

1444
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 2: Who knows the reality is?

1445
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 3: Can you let's assume that tests and Fury has the

1446
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 3: issues you're articulating. Can he fight this way and win?

1447
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 2: Yes? Yeah?

1448
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 3: But is it a good idea to fight this way? No?

1449
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 2: No?

1450
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 4: And you know I don't, I don't you know love

1451
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 4: just to risk all of this it's you know again,

1452
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 4: It's different than It's somewhat different than the argument for

1453
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 4: Tank Davis and Ryan Garcia take both taking interim bouts.

1454
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 4: A lot of that is going to be used to

1455
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 4: build up and if the attention for their inevitable paper view,

1456
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 4: and they also don't have titles that they could lose,

1457
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:00,439
Speaker 4: that could make this not as big. Look if Ustick

1458
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 4: and Fury fight and it's not for all four belts,

1459
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 4: we're gonna feel like we missed something. So in that regard,

1460
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 4: you don't want to take that risk of Tyson taking

1461
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:10,919
Speaker 4: this unnecessary stay busy, but he should win.

1462
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 2: We'll watch it.

1463
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 4: We'll see what happens. We have to pay on pay

1464
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 4: per view for it. But give me Usik Fury or

1465
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 4: give me death, okay, or give me liberty. Your choice, Louke,

1466
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 4: give me something, I'll.

1467
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 3: Give you, motherfucking a liberty. Bro Hey, talk to me

1468
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 3: about this UF Comaine. Yeah, Daniel Dubois, who if you

1469
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 3: watched any I think the first. I think it was

1470
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 3: the first Jake Paul Card with Tyrone Woodley Dubois fought

1471
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 3: on that course. Yes, uh, he's great. Now, let me

1472
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 3: tell you about him. He's not going to stay a

1473
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 3: whole lot. He's not going to razzle dazzle you with

1474
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 3: the interviews. But he is athletic, he is powerful, he

1475
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 3: is deadly, and he is a very very important guy

1476
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 3: to watching this heavyweight division BC. He's a minus sixteen

1477
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 3: hundred favorite as well, taking on Kevin Lorena at plus

1478
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 3: eight hundred.

1479
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 2: He should win this. How do we understand this fight?

1480
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 4: I don't think this is much of a challenge for

1481
01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 4: him on paper. We're gonna see how it plays out.

1482
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 4: I mean, look, I don't think Jermain Franklin last week

1483
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 4: against Dillion White would be much of a challenge, and

1484
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 4: Franklin arguably he should have won that fight and pushed

1485
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 4: Old Dillion to the limit there. But Daniel Dubois had

1486
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 4: that close up against Joe Joyce where it was two

1487
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 4: unbeaten fighters coming together and you know, Joyce broke his

1488
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 4: eye and Duba had to call it quits. And I

1489
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 4: think that at first there was some sort of maybe negative,

1490
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 4: hypercritical talk, but people realized the danger he was in.

1491
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 2: He's still a very viable heavyweight.

1492
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 4: So let's look in on the process here of him

1493
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 4: rebuilding himself and coming back to get one of those

1494
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 4: big fights. But he's in the larger picture. He is

1495
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 4: a guy to watch. Danon Dubois. He can punch, he's big.

1496
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 4: There is a lot to like there, but not a

1497
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 4: ton of meeting and that Fury to Sori fight as

1498
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 4: we mentioned. But Luke, I don't want you to pooh

1499
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 4: pooh what we could get in that Desgonne offering though, because.

1500
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 2: We waited a long time for this, which one that

1501
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 2: trilogy beout Oh the dezone.

1502
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 3: Okay, So let me set this up. So this is

1503
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 3: a trilogy about the same day. Of course, this will

1504
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 3: be at night because the fight between Fury and She's

1505
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 3: always going to be in London. But that night in Glendelle, Arizona.

1506
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 2: Will we just work. It's the exact same arena.

1507
01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 3: Jan Francisco Estrada at plus one seventy five takes on Roman.

1508
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 3: By the way, gring goes, look at me, me and him. Man,

1509
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 3: it's not Choco Latita, Choco Latito, la tito.

1510
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 2: Excuse me? Uh?

1511
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 3: Taken on a Roman Gonzalez at minus two twenty five

1512
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 3: Chocolatito BC. Now here's why I said, it's a good fight,

1513
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:20,680
Speaker 3: not a great fight. They fought once Chokola Tito won.

1514
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 3: They fought a second time Estrada won. But okay, that's fine,

1515
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 3: you did. Here's the other part. Since the second meeting,

1516
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 3: this is my argument too.

1517
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 2: They should have fought right away. They should have fought

1518
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 2: right away.

1519
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 3: Estrada looked like shit since then Choco Latito did not.

1520
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 2: Yes, why should I be so excited about this? Oh?

1521
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 2: Because this is the roth wor So here's the deal.

1522
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 4: When Chocolatito came on the scene, three division champion, insane knockout,

1523
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:49,439
Speaker 4: such a great box he he literally was the palf

1524
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 4: for pound king in that window after Floyd went away,

1525
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:54,080
Speaker 4: you know, around the time that andre Ward had had

1526
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 4: a case at it in that moment when he but

1527
01:02:56,840 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 4: the only challenge on that entire run until Chocolachi, your

1528
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 4: Palm for Pound King finally ran into twice. We said

1529
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 4: this name a lot Streeci CAATs sore Rung Vasaiah, the

1530
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 4: guy from Thailand until he ran into him. The only

1531
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 4: guy that gave him paused concern was a much younger

1532
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 4: at that time, Jan Francisco Estrada. When they met that

1533
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 4: first time, was it twenty twelve of twenty thirteen, whatever

1534
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 4: it was in Los Angeles. Choco Latito got the win,

1535
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:22,439
Speaker 4: but you were like, oh my god, he's basically god

1536
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 4: in these lower way classes. Chocolatito Estrada is the guy

1537
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 4: to watch. He's the guy that gave him all he

1538
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 4: can handle. Well, since then, we've been waiting for that rematch,

1539
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 4: and since then, Nostrada only got better, entered Pom for

1540
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 4: Pound categories, made huge, amazing fights against US streets to

1541
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 4: cats or Rung Vsai Fight of the Year contenders, and

1542
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 4: when we finally got that rematch, Look, we had to

1543
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 4: think in that.

1544
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 2: Moment that was going to be the end, Chuck Latito

1545
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 2: was old.

1546
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 4: He had come back from those two devastating fights against

1547
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 4: threesy cats or Rung Versailles. But what Chocolatito did that night,

1548
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 4: in that rematch in Dallas a couple of years back,

1549
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 4: a legitimate fight of the year leading candidate was turned

1550
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 4: back time. He didn't get the na Astrata got the nod.

1551
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 4: But Luke, this has been the only guy outside of

1552
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 4: that large caft fellow with the high socks, reesa cat

1553
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 4: sore wrung beside that rat eater.

1554
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 2: Outside of him, yeah, outside of him.

1555
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 4: Astrata has historically been the only guy in these weight

1556
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 4: classes who can push Chalco. But you add that wrinkle

1557
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 4: of In that rematch, Chocolate Tito turnback time his balls off,

1558
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 4: but in a very close, great fight, got the disputed

1559
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 4: wrong end of the stick. Now we had to wait.

1560
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 4: This fight got delay multiple times. We had to wait

1561
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:31,440
Speaker 4: a long time. We're still getting it. They're still viable,

1562
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 4: This rivalry still matters. Will it be the worst of

1563
01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:35,440
Speaker 4: the three just on their age? Maybe it also may

1564
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 4: be the best in that regard, It's never gonna be

1565
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 4: the kind that's going to get got a lot of

1566
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 4: hoopla this is a hardcore fans delight, and in many

1567
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 4: ways it's a kind of aftermarket bonus to the hardcore

1568
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 4: fans delight. But this fight still matters, Luke for that division,

1569
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 4: for their respective rivalries.

1570
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 2: It's for the ring and vacant WBC super Flyway.

1571
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:55,960
Speaker 4: Titles one hundred and one hundred and eighteen pounds super Flyight, right,

1572
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:58,920
Speaker 4: So basically Junior banham Way is iteen one fifteen one

1573
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 4: fifteen super Flyway, So this one fifteen.

1574
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 2: Yes, sorry.

1575
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 4: So look, this division since Chuckla Tito moved up in it,

1576
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:08,440
Speaker 4: and this was really we didn't realize was kind of

1577
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 4: the twilight of his career. It's been all lights out,

1578
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 4: it's been all amazing. This is this may be the

1579
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 4: final chapter in that run.

1580
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1581
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:18,440
Speaker 4: Maybeesa Keet Ringside just just lost and he's kind of fading.

1582
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 4: You could still make a trilogy for him against both

1583
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 4: of those guys, but this is the real trilogy in

1584
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 4: this division's history that matters. And if Chucklesito can come

1585
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 4: out at this age, we at.

1586
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 2: Thirty five, which is like when he got knocked the

1587
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 2: hell out by sore Rung Visai, Chuck La Tito was

1588
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 2: like thirty two, and we were like, sorry at that way, class,

1589
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 2: You're done, You're done, right, Okay, you know you just

1590
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 2: got face right fucking five.

1591
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 4: You're now you're thirty five and you got screwed in

1592
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 4: that remat Oh man, if he comes back and wins this,

1593
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 4: there are very few heroes.

1594
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 2: Left that like, I just have to stop and applaud.

1595
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 2: You know. It's like bj Pen, like Elkodo, like these

1596
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 2: guys in the where these come up, they're like royalty

1597
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 2: as they passed through. He's truckle.

1598
01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 4: Tito Gonzalez is royalty. He's one of the most beautiful fighters.

1599
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 4: Were blessed to get a chance to see part of

1600
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 4: his run at.

1601
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 2: The best work in all of boxing. Most of his

1602
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 2: best stuff you had to watch on illegal streams off

1603
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 2: network TV and get malware. But this is probably the last.

1604
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:14,000
Speaker 3: Is that your explanation for all the porn sides you

1605
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 3: went to and that destroyed your laptop.

1606
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 4: This is probably the last dance. And they compliment each

1607
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 4: other so great. Algaio Estrada is gonna push that pace

1608
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 4: and be the body puncher in the boxer, but Chuco

1609
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 4: Latito's gonna do Chuck Latito shit and switch and weave

1610
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 4: in and out with those heavy, accurate combinations. This is

1611
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 4: gonna be a joy to behold. It's it's gonna be

1612
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 4: high skill but also high action. It's gonna be like

1613
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 4: a symphony. It's gonna be art luke, even if they're

1614
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 4: a little bit past it, it's gonna.

1615
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 2: Be thirty five with that.

1616
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 3: What does that make him if if he wins in

1617
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 3: terms of champs in this weight class, gotta be one

1618
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 3: of the oldest, right, thirty five?

1619
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird. I mean that's why we were. Nonito

1620
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 2: don Air in recent years was doing that same thing too,

1621
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 2: one of these like rare sort of last stands by

1622
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 2: these old gun slinging cowboys where you're just like you know, Nonito.

1623
01:06:57,520 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 4: Did at one eighteen and became a unified champ. If chuckle,

1624
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 4: Tito becomes the champ which the ring title is supposed

1625
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 4: to signify in this division and wins this rivalry.

1626
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 2: Against this this this, this is great theater. So don't

1627
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 2: miss this. Look, don't this is worth your time. That

1628
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 2: second one was like a fight of the year. Did

1629
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 2: you remember it? H Yeah, I think we talked about

1630
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 2: it on the show.

1631
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, great, Choco Cho, there you go. Choco, not choco,

1632
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 5: choco lagringo. Okay, what does that translate to little chocolate,

1633
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 5: no chocolate gringo, chocolate gringoes.

1634
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 2: You're just talking about black people, all right? Uh? Topic four,

1635
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 2: PFL interested in booking Cyborg versus Harrison. You see this

1636
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 2: aggressive tweet from Don Davis.

1637
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:44,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, boy, Don Davis to ESPN. Al Right, here's what

1638
01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 3: he said, right, So, Don Davis, I know so Peter

1639
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 3: Murray is the CEO, Don Davis's chairman.

1640
01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 2: He's up there some ship like that. They've got like

1641
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 2: five CEOs.

1642
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 4: Do you think either of them could beat this smart

1643
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 4: Cajun and sat test?

1644
01:07:57,640 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 2: Not a chance? Right, Hello, Don Davis, this is this

1645
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:03,360
Speaker 2: art cage. Don, your cholesterol is getting high.

1646
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:05,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to see at the smart cage in

1647
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 3: the meetings, being like, it is very stupid to put

1648
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 3: this on pay per view.

1649
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 4: Don, your liver now looks like Brian Campbell's of the

1650
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 4: award winning Morning Combat.

1651
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:16,320
Speaker 2: Please get that addressed. Thank you, by the way.

1652
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:18,879
Speaker 3: Also for the PFL donks like I know Greg Savage

1653
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:20,880
Speaker 3: on them. They brought all those motherfuckers that they are

1654
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 3: here in New York. They should have brought well, we

1655
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 3: weren't in studio. We could have had him in studio.

1656
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 2: You could have had Lorden mackin here.

1657
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:29,599
Speaker 3: Yeah he's not coming in studio ever, but the rest

1658
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:31,360
Speaker 3: of them could have been in here anyway. All Right,

1659
01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 3: So Don Davis DESPN says the following quote. I have

1660
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 3: a counterview to the Twitter universe. My view is simple.

1661
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 3: Chris was scared of Kayla and unwilling to take that

1662
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:42,560
Speaker 3: fight prior.

1663
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:44,519
Speaker 2: To last Friday. Alright, Don, all right.

1664
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 3: I believe there was zero chance of that fight happening

1665
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 3: due to the Cyborgs fear of Kayla. Now I think

1666
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 3: the odds of that fight happening have gone way up, really,

1667
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 3: and I still believe Kayla wins that fuckuck.

1668
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:57,559
Speaker 2: I love this fight, but you can't take this stance

1669
01:08:57,640 --> 01:08:59,680
Speaker 2: now when she just got beaten. I know. So here's

1670
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 2: what he's yes, offer stance, Cyborg. Here's the tweet. Say

1671
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:04,800
Speaker 2: say the tweet, Luke. I don't know if we have that.

1672
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, offer stands at Kayla Harrison or at Kayla h

1673
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 3: versus Chris Cyborg one million each fighter plus two million

1674
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 3: winner additional tip.

1675
01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 2: So I guess you get you would get three if you.

1676
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:19,679
Speaker 3: Won Winner's choice for a rolls Royce, biggest cash perse

1677
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:23,840
Speaker 3: in history for female MMA fighting. No more hiding. Get

1678
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:26,519
Speaker 3: the fuck out of here, my guy decide the best

1679
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 3: inside the cage at PFLMMA, a pay per view super

1680
01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 3: fight hashtag Kayla Cyborg.

1681
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:36,640
Speaker 4: Okay, look you see react. I like the aggressiveness, but

1682
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 4: that's really all I like about this.

1683
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 2: It's hard to take this stance after she just lost

1684
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 2: and lost cleanly and the fight to make next. I'm

1685
01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 2: sorry it's a rematch again. It's like, how can you

1686
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:51,519
Speaker 2: put this out after Larisa Pacheco just did what she

1687
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 2: did right, losing twice to Kayla Harrison in twenty nineteen,

1688
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:57,120
Speaker 2: missing out last season because she missed weight, yet comes

1689
01:09:57,160 --> 01:09:59,559
Speaker 2: all the way back five straight wins by fight by

1690
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:01,720
Speaker 2: first round knockout, and then goes in.

1691
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:04,840
Speaker 4: There against Kayla Harrison, the face of your franchise, and

1692
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 4: cleanly beats her. And now you're going on Twitter banging

1693
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 4: the drums for a super fight that is not over right.

1694
01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 4: The idea of Cyborg facing Kayla Harrison is not over.

1695
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 2: But you can't pass go and start talking about this

1696
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:20,720
Speaker 2: fight again until Kayla goes back and redeems herself and

1697
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:23,599
Speaker 2: handles her business and Luke maybe that makes it bigger.

1698
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:26,639
Speaker 2: Maybe if Kayla goes out in a special pay.

1699
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:29,719
Speaker 4: Per view rematch to open next year and beats Potaco,

1700
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 4: maybe you set up a cyborg fight to close the

1701
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:34,360
Speaker 4: year on pay per view, that's even bigger than it

1702
01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:35,680
Speaker 4: would have been originally.

1703
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 2: Maybe. But do I agree Christs ever scared? No? No,

1704
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:39,559
Speaker 2: I don't.

1705
01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:41,120
Speaker 4: I believe Chris is out a point now where she's

1706
01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:43,000
Speaker 4: about the money, right. She wants to get paid for

1707
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 4: being the legend that she is. So if you can

1708
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:49,000
Speaker 4: produce that big, look, that's a big offer. The reason

1709
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:50,599
Speaker 4: why I said I like the aggression of Don Davis

1710
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:52,960
Speaker 4: because that's a big public that's a lot of public

1711
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 4: information to share one tweet. Luke, that's a big ass

1712
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 4: offer of a lot of money which you would not get.

1713
01:10:57,439 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 4: The pay per view buys or the clicks or the

1714
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:02,519
Speaker 4: ratings necessarily justify it. Are you trying to do a

1715
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 4: good deed and just say, look, this fight needs to

1716
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:06,640
Speaker 4: happen anyway for the support, so somebody will put up

1717
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:06,880
Speaker 4: the money.

1718
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:07,200
Speaker 2: That's great.

1719
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:09,599
Speaker 4: If you got rich friends, please do it. But Luke Thomas,

1720
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:12,920
Speaker 4: nothing in the sentiment is necessarily justified, true or false.

1721
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:15,720
Speaker 4: Kala has to beat Pacheco first before people are going

1722
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 4: to entertain this the way it should be.

1723
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 3: I don't even know what to make of it, other

1724
01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:22,760
Speaker 3: than it's just and where's the money come?

1725
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:29,600
Speaker 2: Emptypr? Like? Meaningfully? Does the loss to Pacheco.

1726
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 3: Make the cyborg fight in terms of what actually has

1727
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 3: to happen to make it fight in terms of PFL

1728
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:38,240
Speaker 3: and bellat or sitting down and hashing out a deal.

1729
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 3: Does this loss make it more or less likely there's

1730
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:44,680
Speaker 3: a loss to from Harrison to PROTECTO to make it

1731
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 3: more less likely? If anything, it makes it somewhat less likely,

1732
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:50,760
Speaker 3: not more. And either way, I would imagine it to

1733
01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:54,320
Speaker 3: be somewhat marginal in its significance therein like, I don't

1734
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:57,040
Speaker 3: understand how it has anything to do with it in

1735
01:11:57,120 --> 01:11:59,599
Speaker 3: either direction. It's just a cheap way to get pr

1736
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:01,080
Speaker 3: and we're it to him. I mean, here we are,

1737
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:03,599
Speaker 3: you know, rewarding that the tweet with some more of attention.

1738
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 2: Maybe the cage had had an alteriative motive. The smart

1739
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 2: cage guy pushed you to your limits in our relationship

1740
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 2: this morning with an alterior motive.

1741
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:15,719
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, although you tried.

1742
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:18,120
Speaker 2: To justify it with some bullshit, but stand by it

1743
01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:18,960
Speaker 2: well a little bit.

1744
01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:20,479
Speaker 3: But the point I'm trying to make is I don't

1745
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:22,599
Speaker 3: think it meanfully moves the needle in either direction here.

1746
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 3: I think it's just totally empty bullshit. I don't like,

1747
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:27,559
Speaker 3: do you think Scott Cook is gonna see that and go, well,

1748
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:30,040
Speaker 3: better get on the phone and we're going to figure

1749
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:30,840
Speaker 3: this shout.

1750
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:32,599
Speaker 4: Like, well he should be getting cut of that. That

1751
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:34,360
Speaker 4: that three million that they're offering the winner.

1752
01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:36,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, by the way, who's putting up the money? Well,

1753
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:38,160
Speaker 3: that's my big like the Rolls Royce, Like, who the

1754
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:38,720
Speaker 3: fucks running is?

1755
01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:42,880
Speaker 4: We're gonna find out BLK Primes I's kin ofAnd behind him?

1756
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:44,360
Speaker 2: Who is behind this? At the end of the day,

1757
01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 2: Rugaroo's gonna be like, what the fuck's going on here?

1758
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:47,000
Speaker 6: He show that.

1759
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 2: You don't have to show that at the en. I mean,

1760
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:49,960
Speaker 2: it's not like chatre at the end of the day

1761
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:50,479
Speaker 2: is opening up.

1762
01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:53,680
Speaker 3: Have based on what commission you're in, you do have

1763
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 3: to have some of that money in escrow, some of

1764
01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:57,960
Speaker 3: it has to be there, but you don't actually have.

1765
01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:00,720
Speaker 2: To have DAVI and the smart Cage have this in

1766
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:02,720
Speaker 2: escrow right now. Well, the smart Age is probably just

1767
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 2: doing all its money on motherfucking bitcoin. Do you think

1768
01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:08,000
Speaker 2: the smart shap making the trades during the fights?

1769
01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:10,760
Speaker 3: Ship bro that fucking smart cage, That smart cage is

1770
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:12,680
Speaker 3: that was the same thing talking to night Rider that

1771
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:15,600
Speaker 3: talking car. Who's who's smarter the smart cage or the

1772
01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:18,240
Speaker 3: talking car and night Rider. See these idiots don't know

1773
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:19,599
Speaker 3: about night Rider, these new kids.

1774
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:21,720
Speaker 2: See night Writer didn't even have to navigate like me

1775
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:22,320
Speaker 2: too and stuff.

1776
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:24,000
Speaker 4: Night Writer was just out there just trying to get

1777
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 4: trying to get house off laid left and right right.

1778
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:29,240
Speaker 2: He was just trying to get just asked left and right.

1779
01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 4: I don't know when Castleoff got more ass assohoff for

1780
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:41,000
Speaker 4: night Rider Baywatch or being like Elvis in Germany or

1781
01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:43,439
Speaker 4: drunkenly eating that burger on the carpet when you had that.

1782
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:45,160
Speaker 4: That was a sad technical difficult Yeah, that.

1783
01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 2: Was sad state. The last one there. I'm gonna say Germany,

1784
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:49,160
Speaker 2: you know.

1785
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:52,240
Speaker 4: Just because it's there's no rules international like they I

1786
01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 4: always say they worship Michael Jackson's statues in Asia back

1787
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:56,800
Speaker 4: in the nineties, they would people be crying and like

1788
01:13:57,479 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 4: dying in front of it.

1789
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:00,200
Speaker 2: Were they really wailing in front of it? Yeah?

1790
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:03,479
Speaker 4: Dude, seriously, the the the love, well, the love for

1791
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:06,120
Speaker 4: Michael Jackson worldwide was just at a stupid level.

1792
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:08,120
Speaker 2: But the how many bands that are in America and

1793
01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 2: they're like decent and they go, oh what over in Germany?

1794
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:10,559
Speaker 2: You're in Japan?

1795
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:13,760
Speaker 4: We are you know, like next level legends. You know,

1796
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 4: he must have gotten next level post wall Punani.

1797
01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 2: Oh right, that post Berlin, mister Grbachev tell her to

1798
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:26,720
Speaker 2: lose that bra right, I mean, you know what like that?

1799
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:31,760
Speaker 2: That's what happened, right, You're so terrible? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1800
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:33,200
Speaker 2: I will say though, bait watch.

1801
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:37,479
Speaker 3: He probably he probably had a couple of shows where

1802
01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:39,519
Speaker 3: he just walked down the trailer of his dungarees around

1803
01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:40,440
Speaker 3: his ankles.

1804
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:43,240
Speaker 2: I mean, with the red speedo on. Oh wow, you know.

1805
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:46,280
Speaker 3: Anyway, all right, last topic on THISBC and then we'll

1806
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:49,479
Speaker 3: call it a day on the Top five here. Uh okay,

1807
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:52,280
Speaker 3: not a whole lot to say about this one, pretty quick,

1808
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:56,280
Speaker 3: but it is official. Nate Diaz is a free agent.

1809
01:14:56,400 --> 01:15:00,960
Speaker 3: We know this because his agent, Zach Rosenfeld, spoke to

1810
01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 3: Damon Martin of MMA Fighting and confirmed and now recall

1811
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:06,160
Speaker 3: what had happened. He has the fight with Tony Ferguson.

1812
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:10,200
Speaker 3: They had matching rights for a period of excuse me,

1813
01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 3: they had exclusive negotiating rights I'm sorry for up to

1814
01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:15,639
Speaker 3: ninety days, and then after that they could have held

1815
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 3: him for a year with the ability to match whatever

1816
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:22,320
Speaker 3: office he got elsewhere. Instead, what the UFC did was

1817
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:26,040
Speaker 3: they briefly enacted the we're gonna have the exclusive negotiating

1818
01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:27,040
Speaker 3: period to see what happens.

1819
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:29,320
Speaker 2: But they didn't even wait out the ninety days. They

1820
01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:30,200
Speaker 2: just let him rock.

1821
01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:31,600
Speaker 3: I can tell you that I know there was a

1822
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:34,280
Speaker 3: fear in that camp that Nate Diaz might have been

1823
01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:37,679
Speaker 3: the first one a to get the exclusive negotiating period activated,

1824
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 3: which was they were correct about. But they also were

1825
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 3: worried that they were going to kee him under lock

1826
01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:43,680
Speaker 3: and key for a year. I think the UFC made

1827
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:44,280
Speaker 3: the right call here.

1828
01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:44,559
Speaker 2: BC.

1829
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:47,840
Speaker 3: Going to war with your talent to keep them when

1830
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:50,679
Speaker 3: they don't want to be there is a bad fucking idea,

1831
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:53,720
Speaker 3: and they don't want that kind of media attention if

1832
01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:56,120
Speaker 3: they don't have to have it. Nate Diaz is older

1833
01:15:56,200 --> 01:15:58,840
Speaker 3: and he is extremely popular, but it's okay to let

1834
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:00,360
Speaker 3: someone else get some of the those things.

1835
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:03,240
Speaker 2: Dude, the UFC is so entrench you think that's why

1836
01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:04,880
Speaker 2: they told Tom's out there miss wait of herpose.

1837
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:07,280
Speaker 4: I don't believe all that, Okay, just putting the other

1838
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:09,880
Speaker 4: but I'm just saying, who told you that? Brendon Schobb?

1839
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:12,080
Speaker 4: Remember when Dana was like who two said that? Brenon

1840
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 4: Schaub said that postwar press? Yeah, yeah, and Dan it's

1841
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:15,599
Speaker 4: just like Duncan.

1842
01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:19,519
Speaker 2: Well they're best friends, I know. But BC agree or disagree.

1843
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:23,479
Speaker 3: The UFC made the right call by not getting because

1844
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:26,040
Speaker 3: if he had been stuck under contract and couldn't do anything,

1845
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:28,160
Speaker 3: or they were going to match him for a year

1846
01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:30,560
Speaker 3: or whatever it was going to be, that would have

1847
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:31,800
Speaker 3: been ugly pressed for them.

1848
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:33,800
Speaker 2: It would have been they got around that. They let

1849
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:35,639
Speaker 2: him go his way. I think they made the right.

1850
01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:38,599
Speaker 3: Call, especially since his manager is even saying the McGregor

1851
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:39,360
Speaker 3: trilogy is.

1852
01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 2: Still in play.

1853
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:41,760
Speaker 4: Well, that's that's the big I was gonna say, that's

1854
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:43,720
Speaker 4: probably the biggest reason why you would want to not

1855
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 4: burn this bridge and not do anything like that, because

1856
01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:48,800
Speaker 4: they may, look, he may box Jake Paul, he may

1857
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 4: get an offer in the MMA space that's kind of

1858
01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:52,599
Speaker 4: out of nowhere that we didn't think of before.

1859
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:54,920
Speaker 2: I mean, could he fight Anderson Silva? It's not impossible.

1860
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:58,439
Speaker 4: Right, he could MMA fight Anderson Silva, but he may

1861
01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 4: end up finding out after six months it's a year

1862
01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:04,439
Speaker 4: that the biggest paycheck and the biggest fight that could

1863
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:07,240
Speaker 4: alter his legacy in ways that matter to Nate the

1864
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:09,840
Speaker 4: most separate from financials, might end up being that conomic

1865
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:11,360
Speaker 4: Gregor fight. So if you want to leave that channel

1866
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 4: over him, and do you want that fight that trilogy

1867
01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:15,360
Speaker 4: to happen when they're forty five and Oscar de la

1868
01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:17,519
Speaker 4: Hoya is promoting it at the at the Forum and

1869
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:19,880
Speaker 4: it's Golden Boy MMA, or do you want.

1870
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:22,160
Speaker 2: That to happen at you know, UFC two ninety five.

1871
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 2: You know we're going with this, So I like that.

1872
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:25,840
Speaker 2: But I think the biggest question, now that this is

1873
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:27,720
Speaker 2: official in UFC is not going to get in the way,

1874
01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 2: is what is the super fight? Because I said this

1875
01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:34,639
Speaker 2: when I when I talked about when Jake was setting

1876
01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:37,040
Speaker 2: up to box Anderson, we weren't sure who's gonna win, And.

1877
01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 4: In hindsight, we made the right call. We shouldn't have

1878
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:41,360
Speaker 4: been sure who was going to win. That the Nate

1879
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:43,880
Speaker 4: fight is the biggest one to make. It's the biggest

1880
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:46,599
Speaker 4: one to make, mostly in my opinion, because the first

1881
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:49,000
Speaker 4: time Nate fights post UFC, it's just gonna it's just

1882
01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:50,799
Speaker 4: gonna mean more, right, It's just the unknown.

1883
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:52,679
Speaker 2: What's gonna look like in a boxing match? All that stuff?

1884
01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:55,800
Speaker 2: Is it going the direction of Jake Paul or nowhere else?

1885
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:58,439
Speaker 2: Or are we not? Are we not being creative enough?

1886
01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:01,960
Speaker 4: Where could Nate but eventually go in the larger combat

1887
01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:05,439
Speaker 4: space right now to maximize this rare opportunity of leaving

1888
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:08,559
Speaker 4: UFC on your own terms while you still have somewhat

1889
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:10,559
Speaker 4: short term legitimate brand.

1890
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:13,080
Speaker 2: Potential for them. So a couple of things to think

1891
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:14,960
Speaker 2: about here is under what auspice is?

1892
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:17,560
Speaker 3: Would it happen like Jake has when he fights on

1893
01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:19,920
Speaker 3: his own or his brother fought in his own, they

1894
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:21,599
Speaker 3: had the power of his own to promote that, whatever

1895
01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:24,000
Speaker 3: that's worth. When he fights on showtime, they have the

1896
01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:27,680
Speaker 3: power of the promotional muscle of Showtime, and there's a

1897
01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:29,799
Speaker 3: certain worth of that as well off incuting the show.

1898
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:30,519
Speaker 2: Including the show.

1899
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:36,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, if he goes outside of a traditional promoter, we

1900
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:38,400
Speaker 3: just saw Rugaru not being able to get paid. But

1901
01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:40,280
Speaker 3: also the other problem there was the fight was legit,

1902
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:42,360
Speaker 3: but it was promoted about as poorly as you can imagine.

1903
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:43,800
Speaker 2: I don't think he wants to do that.

1904
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:45,519
Speaker 3: I think he wants to make maximum money, which means

1905
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:47,519
Speaker 3: he needs to go with proven players. So I think

1906
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 3: that's somewhat constrains it.

1907
01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:50,599
Speaker 4: So he's not going to enter into a celebrity grappling

1908
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:54,120
Speaker 4: tournament with like an Ason Gibb in Saudi Arabia for

1909
01:18:54,240 --> 01:18:54,720
Speaker 4: twenty million.

1910
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 3: I mean he might, but I think if you're like so,

1911
01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:01,920
Speaker 3: a couple of wildcards could be would Showtime or Dezone

1912
01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:05,360
Speaker 3: or some other player some major player do like Nate Diaz,

1913
01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:06,240
Speaker 3: Tommy Fury.

1914
01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:08,840
Speaker 2: That's one way to think about it. Would they do?

1915
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:10,880
Speaker 3: Here's another one too, would they do Nate Diz versus

1916
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:14,040
Speaker 3: Andrew Tait. I don't think any major promoter would want

1917
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:16,120
Speaker 3: to touch Tap by virtue of how canceled he is.

1918
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:21,280
Speaker 2: I could be wrong, but hand six promotions might get

1919
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:25,760
Speaker 2: off the D six promotions, So there is that potentially.

1920
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:29,280
Speaker 2: What about or Anderson is certainly in.

1921
01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:32,360
Speaker 4: Plays Jill and Danis is boxing ks I, but should

1922
01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:34,479
Speaker 4: Nate be trying to get an MMA fight agains Dylan?

1923
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:35,439
Speaker 2: No one cares? No one cares.

1924
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 3: I mean, just from a money standpoint, are you going

1925
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:39,680
Speaker 3: to get a lot fighting k I mean, I think

1926
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 3: you might get some What are the legitimate options here?

1927
01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:44,240
Speaker 3: It's it's Jake is a big one. If they can

1928
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Speaker 3: make that, Jake, the Jake's the biggest by far, right,

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Speaker 3: Jake's the biggest part.

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Speaker 4: Not Anderson in any other I mean, does you think

1931
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Speaker 4: Nate even wants to fight Mma if it's not a

1932
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:53,679
Speaker 4: Connor trilogy?

1933
01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:57,360
Speaker 2: Does he even want to? Well, why couldn't he box Anderson?

1934
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Speaker 4: I think people personally, I think people because we just

1935
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Speaker 4: saw Orson box on a pretty high level against Jake

1936
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Speaker 4: after Chavas and all that, I think people would be

1937
01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:08,000
Speaker 4: more intrigued with him than boxing in that matchup.

1938
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Speaker 3: Probably probably true. The answer is he probably does have

1939
01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:15,720
Speaker 3: some options, but by far the best one is a

1940
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:20,240
Speaker 3: Jake fight. It's just the reason Gerry BCFC BKFC probably

1941
01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 3: does have some coin that they can throw at him.

1942
01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:27,800
Speaker 2: Aj McKee on CBS. I don't think he wants that

1943
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Speaker 2: kind of fight. I really don't. I really don't.

1944
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Speaker 3: I just don't think he wants to fight some young gun.

1945
01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:33,840
Speaker 3: I mean, you could say, well, Jake pausey young gun,

1946
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Speaker 3: but like a relative, wouldn't that be.

1947
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Speaker 2: A weird inversion of Frank Shamrock versus Nick Diaz that fight.

1948
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Speaker 3: Sort of, yeah, sort of, So it stands to reason

1949
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Speaker 3: that the Jake fight will happen, probably at some point

1950
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Speaker 3: first or second quarter twenty twenty three. By the way,

1951
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Speaker 3: speaking of Jake, did you see his beef with Patty Pimblet? Yeah,

1952
01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:53,320
Speaker 3: what's going on with that? So the long story short

1953
01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:55,720
Speaker 3: is that Pimblet did an interview and actually was complimentary

1954
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Speaker 3: of Jake's skills. I think you kind of have to

1955
01:20:57,160 --> 01:20:59,320
Speaker 3: be at least a little bit at this point. Yeah,

1956
01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:00,840
Speaker 3: and he was like, yeah, well what he actually.

1957
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:01,000
Speaker 2: An's so bad?

1958
01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:03,479
Speaker 3: He ain't so bad, but this Silvi fight was a

1959
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:05,160
Speaker 3: fraud because he didn't even touch him, which is the

1960
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:09,880
Speaker 3: like he's obviously believing some like crazy stupid Instagram post

1961
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:12,519
Speaker 3: that is not even real and okay, either here or there.

1962
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:14,040
Speaker 2: So he's like, well, Silva took a dive.

1963
01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:19,640
Speaker 3: So Jake gets on camera and says, hey, uh, how

1964
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:23,320
Speaker 3: about this, A, don't call Silva a criminal? And B

1965
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:26,080
Speaker 3: how about you fly to Puerto Rico. I'll charter a

1966
01:21:26,160 --> 01:21:28,720
Speaker 3: private jet and you will spar five rounds if you

1967
01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 3: want to give you a million dollars. And then Patty

1968
01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:33,280
Speaker 3: Pimble was like, challenge accepted, but you know I got

1969
01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:35,160
Speaker 3: a fight coming up, so I can't go to Puerto Rico.

1970
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:37,600
Speaker 3: It's like, well then it's not challenge accepted. Like like,

1971
01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:40,760
Speaker 3: that's you can't actually say that, but either way, it's

1972
01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:42,280
Speaker 3: the silly thing that neither of them are going to do.

1973
01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:45,080
Speaker 2: Here's my only point. He was like, if you lose,

1974
01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:46,200
Speaker 2: you have to.

1975
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Speaker 3: Join the United Fighters Association. It's like, here's my only

1976
01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 3: advice to Jake Paul. I don't think that's the best

1977
01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:55,000
Speaker 3: way to get guys to join the United Fighters Association.

1978
01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:58,000
Speaker 3: I think there's probably better ways to do that than

1979
01:21:58,160 --> 01:22:00,519
Speaker 3: sparring them into losses to joining.

1980
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Speaker 2: That's my own personal opinion.

1981
01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:04,680
Speaker 4: Use sex and drugs as a as a as a

1982
01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:07,160
Speaker 4: bait for that. Hey, look, breaking news from you know,

1983
01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:09,839
Speaker 4: the account at uber facts, which has eighteen million followers.

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Speaker 2: I do.

1985
01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:12,880
Speaker 4: Now, somebody, let's shout out this guy who put it

1986
01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:15,320
Speaker 4: onto US coach Randy on Twitter has put you an

1987
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:17,960
Speaker 4: eye onto this. In real time vaping has been linked

1988
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:22,600
Speaker 4: to a rectile dysfunction. If we can zoom in on

1989
01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:26,280
Speaker 4: this hard and fast reality looke, it's already potentially the

1990
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:27,200
Speaker 4: end of our chemistry.

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01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:30,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, boy, it's I'm glad there's a citation there. They're

1992
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Speaker 3: not just written words.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so your thoughts on this breaking news.

1994
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Speaker 3: I have yet to be afflicted by this. You don't

1995
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:40,840
Speaker 3: have VD with your BD, well, maybe I need another.

1996
01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:42,400
Speaker 3: By the way, did you say I didn't bring it today?

1997
01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:45,439
Speaker 2: Ed you didn't bring the vape? That's like a it's

1998
01:22:45,479 --> 01:22:49,760
Speaker 2: like a I am trying to quit? Oh wow, not

1999
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:52,040
Speaker 2: because my Dictim was it our fight that that that

2000
01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:53,519
Speaker 2: led you into it? Huh?

2001
01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:58,800
Speaker 3: I was it our fight that led you into No,

2002
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:05,240
Speaker 3: I've just been I've just been, dude. Vaping is fucking stupid.

2003
01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:08,680
Speaker 3: I mean, there's nothing redeemable about it. So I've been

2004
01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:10,360
Speaker 3: trying to I don't by the way, I'm not like

2005
01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:13,400
Speaker 3: I'm not. I've quit cigarettes before, back in my early

2006
01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:15,760
Speaker 3: twenties or whatever. It didn't happen all at once. I

2007
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:18,599
Speaker 3: don't suspect this will happen all at once. But I'm trying.

2008
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:21,080
Speaker 2: I'm trying, all right. I can give you a a

2009
01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:23,800
Speaker 2: a good faith. I'm proud of that. I'm proud of

2010
01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 2: that effort.

2011
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Speaker 4: And by the way, the people out there, if they're

2012
01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:28,760
Speaker 4: if they're battling something too like that, they know that

2013
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:29,960
Speaker 4: we can get through this together.

2014
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:32,439
Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm mostly concerned about how my lungs feel with

2015
01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:33,080
Speaker 2: the vaping.

2016
01:23:33,479 --> 01:23:36,400
Speaker 4: Well, I know that the caffeine withdrawal because I tried

2017
01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:38,599
Speaker 4: to quit coffee twice in the last Yeah.

2018
01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:42,200
Speaker 2: Good, Yeah, that'll. Basically, it's like being hungover for two

2019
01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:45,000
Speaker 2: straight days and then you just give up. Yeah all right, well.

2020
01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:46,840
Speaker 3: We got that's the end of our top five. So

2021
01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:48,519
Speaker 3: let's get to the next part of this. Before we

2022
01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:52,080
Speaker 3: get to the fans ups BC, we got an award

2023
01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:52,760
Speaker 3: to hand out here.

2024
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:58,800
Speaker 2: Would you say stop that it's hammer time? Stop ham

2025
01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:03,200
Speaker 2: of time. Oh oh oh oh oh oh I hammer oh.

2026
01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:05,760
Speaker 2: And then we should call this the pumps and the bummy. Yeah,

2027
01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:06,960
Speaker 2: and we don't mess them out.

2028
01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:08,439
Speaker 3: We just come up with like you know those tubes

2029
01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:10,320
Speaker 3: that they put tennis balls, and just put it in

2030
01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:10,840
Speaker 3: our underwear.

2031
01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:12,840
Speaker 4: And imagine if we walked out with banana hammicks and

2032
01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:14,559
Speaker 4: presented the hammer to the winner and they had.

2033
01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:18,080
Speaker 2: To drive it by the chef. That's not a good marketing. Okay.

2034
01:24:18,160 --> 01:24:19,800
Speaker 3: So the day has come when we are ready to

2035
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:23,960
Speaker 3: award the first ever money Lion Hammer of the Month.

2036
01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:26,040
Speaker 3: Now I want to say, of course, big thanking everyone

2037
01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:27,640
Speaker 3: who voted on social media.

2038
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:29,479
Speaker 2: Hashtag holy Hammer. Right the hammer.

2039
01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 3: Turns out we had a runaway winner, so we're gonna

2040
01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:33,400
Speaker 3: get to that in just a minute. I also want

2041
01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:35,799
Speaker 3: to take time to think our friends and our sponsor,

2042
01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:38,240
Speaker 3: money Lion. Of course, you can follow them at money

2043
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:42,120
Speaker 3: Lion on Twitter, at money Lion Inc. On Instagram. That's

2044
01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:43,960
Speaker 3: where most of the voting, of course, has happened. And

2045
01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:45,960
Speaker 3: thanks to everyone who did that. Why not work with

2046
01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:47,400
Speaker 3: the people who know how to money.

2047
01:24:47,960 --> 01:24:48,960
Speaker 2: They know how to money. It's you.

2048
01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:51,400
Speaker 3: It's your one stop money app. You can get in

2049
01:24:51,439 --> 01:24:52,920
Speaker 3: the app store now money Line. I've got it on

2050
01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:55,360
Speaker 3: my phone. Bec's got it as well. Tons of stuff

2051
01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:56,719
Speaker 3: you can do with it. You can build your credit,

2052
01:24:56,760 --> 01:24:58,640
Speaker 3: you can do regular banking. They've got a sort of

2053
01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:01,040
Speaker 3: an internal Venmo kind of s. They got a lot

2054
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:02,960
Speaker 3: going on there, so go check them out. They were

2055
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:04,479
Speaker 3: the ones that were very nice enough to do is. Now,

2056
01:25:04,520 --> 01:25:06,960
Speaker 3: here's what we've been doing BC. What we have been

2057
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:10,200
Speaker 3: trying to do is let's find people boxing or MMA,

2058
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:17,520
Speaker 3: UFC or belts, doesn't matter, male or female, at race, creed.

2059
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:20,280
Speaker 2: Religious, Sick League, whatever you got for well, we're.

2060
01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:21,840
Speaker 3: Not gonna do the power slap. I mean, I don't

2061
01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:23,200
Speaker 3: give a fuck who gets knocked down in that bitch.

2062
01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:26,320
Speaker 3: I'm not doing anything there. But uh, in this particular case,

2063
01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:28,360
Speaker 3: we want to find up and coming fighters who are

2064
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:32,519
Speaker 3: just surging through and had standout performances. This month, we

2065
01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:37,360
Speaker 3: came up with five different names. Number one, Ryan Span

2066
01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:39,880
Speaker 3: was one of our names, the UFC Light Heavyweight UFC

2067
01:25:40,040 --> 01:25:42,719
Speaker 3: Light Heavwey who had a tremendous win over Dominic Reyes.

2068
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:46,880
Speaker 3: Most recently Paul Hughes, who was to me just an

2069
01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:50,160
Speaker 3: incredible performance he had at Cage Warriors to claim the

2070
01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:53,760
Speaker 3: featherweight belt. There three Michael Trezano also in that recent name.

2071
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:56,840
Speaker 2: That war with Choi was just a banger for five

2072
01:25:56,920 --> 01:26:00,200
Speaker 2: minutes and he closed that out with a finish, so

2073
01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:03,680
Speaker 2: he was on the list as well. Aaron Blanchfield, who

2074
01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:07,080
Speaker 2: has just I mean she ran over she put that

2075
01:26:07,160 --> 01:26:09,800
Speaker 2: meba on the crucifix. Yeah, she certainly did. She looked

2076
01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:12,960
Speaker 2: and then and then doing that bit. Yeah, it was

2077
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:13,439
Speaker 2: pretty great.

2078
01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:16,680
Speaker 3: And the last one, at least from Bellatore just I

2079
01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:19,920
Speaker 3: mean I watched this live being like, holy crap, Sullivan

2080
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:26,400
Speaker 3: Cawley with absolutely thunderous ground and pounds in his spotways

2081
01:26:26,400 --> 01:26:28,439
Speaker 3: still undefeated in his campaign.

2082
01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:31,160
Speaker 2: We put it to a vote. We said, what do

2083
01:26:31,240 --> 01:26:31,840
Speaker 2: you guys think?

2084
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:34,880
Speaker 3: You can vote as many times as you want for

2085
01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:38,080
Speaker 3: whatever reason, whatever stands out to you. Now BC, before

2086
01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:42,679
Speaker 3: we reveal the winner, who was your choice among those five?

2087
01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:44,080
Speaker 2: What did you think was the most Look, there were

2088
01:26:44,120 --> 01:26:45,320
Speaker 2: so many more than just the five.

2089
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:47,320
Speaker 4: I could have added Pollyanna Vienna, could add so many

2090
01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:49,639
Speaker 4: people that had big sort of turns on the undercart

2091
01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:53,559
Speaker 4: and close out performances. But Aaron Blanfield got our attention

2092
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:56,479
Speaker 4: in a big way against somebody who could not have

2093
01:26:56,600 --> 01:26:58,720
Speaker 4: had more momentum in Molly mccam but just showed you

2094
01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:02,040
Speaker 4: first ten exactly what that Jersey tough business was about.

2095
01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:04,160
Speaker 4: I would have been fine with her winning in I

2096
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:07,040
Speaker 4: also really liked Michael Jozano because he looks like he

2097
01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:10,120
Speaker 4: could be like a pit crew member in NASCAR. He's

2098
01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:11,800
Speaker 4: kind of got the hair for it. But yet he

2099
01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:14,880
Speaker 4: was willing to walk through hell and that fight against choice.

2100
01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:16,880
Speaker 4: So either of those I would have been fine. But

2101
01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:19,320
Speaker 4: those other three nominees here, Luke, it's a tough race.

2102
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Speaker 4: If you had to put it pen to the pad.

2103
01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:24,080
Speaker 2: I'm going lean Blanchfield, I'm Blanchield. That was your choice,

2104
01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:26,040
Speaker 2: she I thought she deserved. At the end of the day,

2105
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go one A one B on my choices.

2106
01:27:28,160 --> 01:27:30,040
Speaker 3: My one A was Paul Hughes because it was a

2107
01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:34,800
Speaker 3: five round fight and it was just, man, I'm telling

2108
01:27:34,840 --> 01:27:36,479
Speaker 3: you when you've seen it too, man, where guys go

2109
01:27:36,560 --> 01:27:38,360
Speaker 3: out there and you're like, how was one guy gonna

2110
01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:39,960
Speaker 3: beat the other? I just can't even fathom how this

2111
01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:41,840
Speaker 3: is going to look. And one guy just takes the

2112
01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:43,719
Speaker 3: fight by the scruff of the neck and then forces

2113
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:46,080
Speaker 3: it to be a certain way and does it with skill.

2114
01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:48,840
Speaker 3: Paul Hughes did that. I couldn't believe how good he looked.

2115
01:27:48,840 --> 01:27:50,280
Speaker 3: So he'd been my one A. My one B would

2116
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:50,879
Speaker 3: be Blanchfield.

2117
01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:53,120
Speaker 2: Blaanchfield. Excuse me, Blanchfield did what I had to do

2118
01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:55,080
Speaker 2: to you this morning when you accosted me. She was

2119
01:27:55,160 --> 01:27:56,760
Speaker 2: just at the end, like, is that what you did

2120
01:27:56,800 --> 01:27:57,120
Speaker 2: in the meeting?

2121
01:27:57,120 --> 01:27:59,240
Speaker 3: Should we pull out the showtime producers to get recalled

2122
01:27:59,280 --> 01:28:00,000
Speaker 3: what actually.

2123
01:27:59,720 --> 01:28:01,559
Speaker 2: Happened or not? She was just like, Okay, we got

2124
01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:04,439
Speaker 2: through that. You can lie to the audience, motherfucker. You

2125
01:28:04,479 --> 01:28:05,960
Speaker 2: can't lie to me. Wow.

2126
01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:09,160
Speaker 3: But the point being is Blanche will be my one

2127
01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:13,760
Speaker 3: be choice because won't you say, ABC, She's destined for

2128
01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:16,200
Speaker 3: something special. I don't know when, and I don't know

2129
01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:18,680
Speaker 3: exactly what it's gonna look like, but I do think that.

2130
01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:22,000
Speaker 2: There's something pretty remarkable about what her long term potential.

2131
01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:23,840
Speaker 2: And that long term potential might be shaped like a

2132
01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:25,719
Speaker 2: hammer too if she keeps this up, so we'll see.

2133
01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:27,599
Speaker 3: All right, Well, then now it is time to formally

2134
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:30,920
Speaker 3: announce the winner again. Y'all voted this is and we

2135
01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:35,040
Speaker 3: are told that the votes were overwhelming for this next winner.

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Speaker 2: So one morning combat for another podcast toward is That's right?

2137
01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:42,000
Speaker 3: So, so what we are told is congratulations to our

2138
01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:46,000
Speaker 3: first ever Hammer of the Month award winner.

2139
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Speaker 2: The one and only.

2140
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Speaker 3: Aaron blanche Field is our first ever Hammer of the Month.

2141
01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:56,920
Speaker 2: Look at look at that designer.

2142
01:28:56,960 --> 01:29:01,200
Speaker 4: Look at that piece right there, brought to you from

2143
01:29:01,240 --> 01:29:04,200
Speaker 4: our friends at Money Lion, who certainly know how to money.

2144
01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:07,640
Speaker 4: But when you talk about dropping that hammer, that was

2145
01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:10,639
Speaker 4: Aaron Blanchfield in the one hundred and twenty five pound division.

2146
01:29:11,560 --> 01:29:14,760
Speaker 4: She grinded those meatballs up with that hammer, Luke, So

2147
01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:17,639
Speaker 4: she will be getting her hands around that piece right there.

2148
01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:20,160
Speaker 2: We're gonna be sending this to her or we you

2149
01:29:20,240 --> 01:29:23,560
Speaker 2: know she I'm told she's relatively local. Yeah, yes, she's

2150
01:29:23,560 --> 01:29:25,559
Speaker 2: about that Jersey life here. So maybe there's a chance

2151
01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:27,040
Speaker 2: we can get her in studio. We'll see. I don't

2152
01:29:27,040 --> 01:29:29,439
Speaker 2: I can't make any proclamations about that, but there's an

2153
01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:31,200
Speaker 2: opening on that couch. There is there is.

2154
01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:35,960
Speaker 3: Don't be weird, don't be weird. But anyway, Aaron Blanchfield

2155
01:29:36,200 --> 01:29:39,040
Speaker 3: is a very special fighter. Congratulations, she had a very

2156
01:29:39,080 --> 01:29:44,280
Speaker 3: special performance and the fans again overwhelmingly voted for her.

2157
01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:47,120
Speaker 3: I will say shouts to Paul Hughes, who did not win,

2158
01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:50,839
Speaker 3: but to me looked incredible. He should all the nominees

2159
01:29:50,840 --> 01:29:51,800
Speaker 3: should hold her heads high.

2160
01:29:51,960 --> 01:29:54,680
Speaker 2: Ryan Spin took Tom Ris and just ground ground him up.

2161
01:29:55,040 --> 01:29:56,920
Speaker 3: He looked tremendous as well. So you couldn't even get

2162
01:29:56,960 --> 01:29:59,840
Speaker 3: on that list unless you look tremendous. And for Aaron Blanchfield,

2163
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:02,200
Speaker 3: he really has done something special at her career today

2164
01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:05,160
Speaker 3: and carved up Molly Meatball like it was no thing.

2165
01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:09,240
Speaker 3: She is your first ever money Lione Morning Combat Hammer

2166
01:30:09,320 --> 01:30:11,320
Speaker 3: of the month. There you go be see all right,

2167
01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:21,200
Speaker 3: my friend, she can touch this, you know, all right?

2168
01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:23,719
Speaker 3: What we do is we have this other segment where

2169
01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:25,000
Speaker 3: you use our email.

2170
01:30:25,040 --> 01:30:26,439
Speaker 2: I hit you in the head with this. Will stars

2171
01:30:26,439 --> 01:30:30,000
Speaker 2: appear like in the cartoons, We'll like tweety birds. You'll

2172
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:31,600
Speaker 2: have to You'll have to get a new star to

2173
01:30:31,680 --> 01:30:37,439
Speaker 2: fill this chair. No, thank you. I operate with a

2174
01:30:37,479 --> 01:30:42,320
Speaker 2: hammer on a regular basis. This very morning.

2175
01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:45,080
Speaker 4: Combat at gmail dot com is at email address where

2176
01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:48,800
Speaker 4: Jay Piquette from his you know, lakeside view of Mount

2177
01:30:48,880 --> 01:30:51,280
Speaker 4: You Nike puts together artwork that we put on our

2178
01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:52,120
Speaker 4: collective fridge.

2179
01:30:52,200 --> 01:30:57,240
Speaker 2: This one's called fancy emissions. You've got mail, You've got

2180
01:30:57,360 --> 01:30:58,519
Speaker 2: mail fans?

2181
01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:04,559
Speaker 4: Yes, D Stefano. D Stefano, there's a man named DiStefano.

2182
01:31:04,640 --> 01:31:09,000
Speaker 2: You ready for this? Hey? This is the Stefano from college, Sorry,

2183
01:31:09,040 --> 01:31:10,920
Speaker 2: from Chicago, not from college. Good lord.

2184
01:31:11,160 --> 01:31:12,960
Speaker 4: This past Saturday I went to Belicher two eighty eight

2185
01:31:13,000 --> 01:31:14,880
Speaker 4: with a couple of old college buddies. It was our

2186
01:31:15,000 --> 01:31:17,560
Speaker 4: very first fight event and they were amazed at the

2187
01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:21,200
Speaker 4: amount of in cells and jan six rioters in attendance.

2188
01:31:21,439 --> 01:31:23,240
Speaker 4: After watching your show and the fans you bring in,

2189
01:31:23,320 --> 01:31:25,599
Speaker 4: I wasn't surprised at all. I made sure to rep

2190
01:31:25,640 --> 01:31:27,640
Speaker 4: the MK and after I came back home to my

2191
01:31:27,720 --> 01:31:29,840
Speaker 4: new merch waiting for me and maybe too late to

2192
01:31:29,880 --> 01:31:32,080
Speaker 4: win this year's Dunk of the Year, but I'm.

2193
01:31:31,960 --> 01:31:35,759
Speaker 2: Coming for next year's award. I enjoy the Thanksgiving weekend. Gentlemen.

2194
01:31:35,960 --> 01:31:37,800
Speaker 2: You see you brought that jacket here too, I did.

2195
01:31:37,880 --> 01:31:38,800
Speaker 2: I'm gonna wear that today.

2196
01:31:38,840 --> 01:31:41,559
Speaker 4: In a pregame preview with trunk Man holds right, can

2197
01:31:41,560 --> 01:31:43,920
Speaker 4: we see that man again in his uh cargo in

2198
01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:46,200
Speaker 4: his uh what do you called bomber jacket, bomber jack.

2199
01:31:46,240 --> 01:31:48,000
Speaker 4: He's probably got cargo pants on with it. Well, look

2200
01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:51,320
Speaker 4: at this guy to stefanel from God drinking a modello.

2201
01:31:51,400 --> 01:31:52,360
Speaker 4: This is an MMA fan.

2202
01:31:52,479 --> 01:31:54,800
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, big fan of this guy.

2203
01:31:54,920 --> 01:31:56,880
Speaker 4: Luke, Okay, thank you for wrapping us, and now we

2204
01:31:57,040 --> 01:31:59,120
Speaker 4: reput to Stefano, thank you for looking at you know

2205
01:31:59,240 --> 01:32:00,599
Speaker 4: that bomber say, isn't look you don't.

2206
01:32:01,040 --> 01:32:03,559
Speaker 2: Oh you gotta be fucking kid. Yeah, we'll walk through

2207
01:32:03,560 --> 01:32:04,479
Speaker 2: that fire alarm. They can't.

2208
01:32:04,520 --> 01:32:07,639
Speaker 4: They got to physically like bj Penn and the Lava

2209
01:32:07,720 --> 01:32:09,320
Speaker 4: Shack parking lot, You're gonna have to pull me away

2210
01:32:09,320 --> 01:32:12,200
Speaker 4: from this fight, all right, Thank you very much. Lout

2211
01:32:12,240 --> 01:32:14,719
Speaker 4: that bomber jacket. Morning Coombat Dot Store. There's still some available.

2212
01:32:14,760 --> 01:32:16,519
Speaker 4: It's the best item we got. It's the best, I

2213
01:32:16,600 --> 01:32:18,280
Speaker 4: would say, of all the things that we have, it's

2214
01:32:18,320 --> 01:32:20,080
Speaker 4: by far the best. All right, let's go over to

2215
01:32:20,160 --> 01:32:23,479
Speaker 4: a Ron from London, England, Greeting's fellow degenerates. Up until

2216
01:32:23,520 --> 01:32:26,479
Speaker 4: last week, much like lu and the late Great Kobe Bryant,

2217
01:32:26,800 --> 01:32:29,680
Speaker 4: I was a hashtag girl dad. But on Tuesday my

2218
01:32:29,760 --> 01:32:32,320
Speaker 4: wife gave birth to a nearly ten pound baby boy.

2219
01:32:32,600 --> 01:32:34,920
Speaker 4: It was only right that one of the first images

2220
01:32:35,040 --> 01:32:37,000
Speaker 4: he saw was Luke's dead face.

2221
01:32:37,360 --> 01:32:40,479
Speaker 2: Talk about your day one, Donk. I was abating whether

2222
01:32:40,640 --> 01:32:43,080
Speaker 2: to cover him with the MK T shirt or use

2223
01:32:43,120 --> 01:32:46,000
Speaker 2: it to clean the birthing room floor, but opted for

2224
01:32:46,120 --> 01:32:48,840
Speaker 2: the former, as this thing was a mess. Yeah really,

2225
01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:52,559
Speaker 2: it really is just a Yeah. I promise to raise

2226
01:32:52,680 --> 01:32:55,120
Speaker 2: him in line with all the MK core values except

2227
01:32:55,120 --> 01:32:57,160
Speaker 2: for the vaping. I'm trying to raise a man, not

2228
01:32:57,240 --> 01:33:01,120
Speaker 2: a grimy piece of shit, yours respectively, Aaron from London.

2229
01:33:01,600 --> 01:33:02,120
Speaker 2: That beautiful.

2230
01:33:02,160 --> 01:33:03,600
Speaker 4: This makes you want to go to the UK and

2231
01:33:03,760 --> 01:33:05,960
Speaker 4: meet our fans. You know what I mean, mouth to

2232
01:33:06,080 --> 01:33:08,120
Speaker 4: mouth contact, well not maybe not with aeron but a

2233
01:33:08,120 --> 01:33:08,479
Speaker 4: little much.

2234
01:33:08,560 --> 01:33:11,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Eric, congratulations, look at this beautiful How much

2235
01:33:11,479 --> 01:33:13,479
Speaker 2: were you would you weigh when you were born nine

2236
01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:15,160
Speaker 2: pounds seven ounce. Yeah I was ten. It was a

2237
01:33:15,200 --> 01:33:18,000
Speaker 2: flat tap. Oh yeah, no way you're fitting through you know,

2238
01:33:18,120 --> 01:33:20,080
Speaker 2: average child bearing hips. There's just no chance.

2239
01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:22,360
Speaker 3: By the way, my mom did it in India and

2240
01:33:22,439 --> 01:33:24,320
Speaker 3: I was told with no anesthetic because they didn't have

2241
01:33:24,400 --> 01:33:26,200
Speaker 3: any ship, so it wasn't even a choice.

2242
01:33:27,000 --> 01:33:31,080
Speaker 2: Apparently she screamed bloody murder the whole time. So all right, uh.

2243
01:33:31,400 --> 01:33:34,640
Speaker 4: Hello from uh also from London. Here's Alex. My name

2244
01:33:34,760 --> 01:33:37,559
Speaker 4: is Alex Sobel, a huge MK fan from the UK.

2245
01:33:37,680 --> 01:33:40,599
Speaker 4: If you two washed up mouth breathers wherever to fight,

2246
01:33:41,040 --> 01:33:42,760
Speaker 4: I think your poster should be this.

2247
01:33:44,960 --> 01:33:47,200
Speaker 2: We almost got there this morning. Yeah, he definitely got

2248
01:33:47,280 --> 01:33:50,680
Speaker 2: us their mouth breathing. What do you think about this

2249
01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:53,439
Speaker 2: donk FC poster for the first pay per view? It's okay,

2250
01:33:53,479 --> 01:33:56,479
Speaker 2: so behind me, but is it like a factory behind

2251
01:33:56,520 --> 01:33:58,320
Speaker 2: you can be zoom in. So they have me as

2252
01:33:58,400 --> 01:34:02,200
Speaker 2: Dick Jokes Campbell and your logic, Thomas God, But logic

2253
01:34:02,280 --> 01:34:04,760
Speaker 2: is like a rapper I don't like all right. And

2254
01:34:04,840 --> 01:34:09,680
Speaker 2: that's a flag that you nearly never respect, Luke, So

2255
01:34:09,760 --> 01:34:11,920
Speaker 2: that's interesting. I'm the one who doesn't respect it. The

2256
01:34:12,040 --> 01:34:15,840
Speaker 2: flag behind you? Yeah, I wore it disrespectfully with that

2257
01:34:15,920 --> 01:34:20,519
Speaker 2: pro wrestling T shirt. You did respect the flag. You're

2258
01:34:20,560 --> 01:34:22,560
Speaker 2: never to owe you an apology as well for the

2259
01:34:22,600 --> 01:34:24,519
Speaker 2: flag treatment. You don't owe mean apology. You o the

2260
01:34:24,640 --> 01:34:25,080
Speaker 2: United States.

2261
01:34:27,000 --> 01:34:29,519
Speaker 4: Thank you Alex for reaching out. And I'm still touched

2262
01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:31,160
Speaker 4: by Aaron in London, England.

2263
01:34:31,240 --> 01:34:31,799
Speaker 2: Yeah beautiful.

2264
01:34:31,800 --> 01:34:33,680
Speaker 4: I mean he welcomed his offspring to the world and

2265
01:34:33,760 --> 01:34:35,800
Speaker 4: put m K around him. I mean, what kind of

2266
01:34:36,240 --> 01:34:37,360
Speaker 4: kind of Yeah maybe.

2267
01:34:38,960 --> 01:34:42,080
Speaker 2: Otherwise. Oh, let's go to Mustache Dad. Just reminding you

2268
01:34:42,240 --> 01:34:43,000
Speaker 2: that you're washed.

2269
01:34:43,400 --> 01:34:46,000
Speaker 4: I turned you two into the obscure eighties and nineties

2270
01:34:46,200 --> 01:34:49,000
Speaker 4: white rap group. First of all, they're not obscure. They're awesome.

2271
01:34:49,160 --> 01:34:50,719
Speaker 2: Third base base is not obscure.

2272
01:34:50,760 --> 01:34:52,680
Speaker 4: Who will forever be cooler than you? To keep up

2273
01:34:52,680 --> 01:34:55,599
Speaker 4: the nonsense, it's MK every damn day. Let's go back

2274
01:34:55,600 --> 01:34:58,479
Speaker 4: to this guy, Mustache Dad. Yeah, that's this, This is awesome.

2275
01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:01,200
Speaker 4: That's DJ Pete and Ice and uh, what's the other

2276
01:35:01,200 --> 01:35:01,639
Speaker 4: guy's name?

2277
01:35:02,320 --> 01:35:04,960
Speaker 2: Uh? The pop goes the weasel guy? Yeah, yeah, I

2278
01:35:05,040 --> 01:35:09,000
Speaker 2: forget this guy, Luke. They're saying you look like Jay, Aaron,

2279
01:35:09,120 --> 01:35:11,599
Speaker 2: I do look like Jay in this picture, only Jay

2280
01:35:11,720 --> 01:35:14,320
Speaker 2: usually has his mouth open and he's talking ad nauseum.

2281
01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:16,639
Speaker 4: Prime Minister Pete Ice follows me on Twitter and that's

2282
01:35:16,680 --> 01:35:18,760
Speaker 4: like a career achievement. And the fat guy from Boys

2283
01:35:18,760 --> 01:35:21,519
Speaker 4: to Men too, the chubby guy Nathan fat guy and

2284
01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:23,679
Speaker 4: Boys to Man who was that? There's there's a chubby

2285
01:35:23,720 --> 01:35:26,439
Speaker 4: Boys to Men guy compared to the rest a.

2286
01:35:26,439 --> 01:35:27,160
Speaker 2: Deep voice guy.

2287
01:35:27,320 --> 01:35:29,880
Speaker 4: Yeah that's the guy. I mean, not necessarily like postfighting DC,

2288
01:35:30,080 --> 01:35:34,439
Speaker 4: but he's yeah, yeah, okay, there you go.

2289
01:35:34,840 --> 01:35:36,559
Speaker 2: Oh, let's go to Allen W. I don't know if

2290
01:35:36,600 --> 01:35:40,280
Speaker 2: there's anyone who fat shame more than Daniel Cormier. He

2291
01:35:40,479 --> 01:35:42,760
Speaker 2: is enjoying life. Yes, he is going after it.

2292
01:35:43,120 --> 01:35:44,960
Speaker 4: I was going this is Alan W. I was going

2293
01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:47,240
Speaker 4: to submit this for Halloween. However, I was hesitant because

2294
01:35:47,240 --> 01:35:49,320
Speaker 4: I wanted to maintain some annoymity.

2295
01:35:49,880 --> 01:35:53,080
Speaker 2: Is that how you say it? Anonymity a nononymity, but

2296
01:35:53,240 --> 01:35:55,840
Speaker 2: being that I have some face paint and BC needs

2297
01:35:55,880 --> 01:35:58,920
Speaker 2: some assistance with his memory recall instead of being called

2298
01:35:59,000 --> 01:36:02,840
Speaker 2: Alan m alan e, how's this guy getting on three

2299
01:36:02,920 --> 01:36:05,200
Speaker 2: times on one show on a consistent basis? Maybe this

2300
01:36:05,280 --> 01:36:07,040
Speaker 2: submission will help chokes aside.

2301
01:36:07,120 --> 01:36:09,439
Speaker 4: I've bet a fan of BT since his ESPN days

2302
01:36:09,439 --> 01:36:11,879
Speaker 4: as a writer and contributing boxing analysts.

2303
01:36:12,040 --> 01:36:14,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, is this your kid?

2304
01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:17,360
Speaker 4: No, he says, yes, I am one of the few

2305
01:36:17,479 --> 01:36:20,599
Speaker 4: boxing officionado donks. Thanks for the hours of weekly entertainment,

2306
01:36:20,640 --> 01:36:21,599
Speaker 4: you old wash bastards.

2307
01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:22,840
Speaker 2: I don't understand this. What is this?

2308
01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:24,880
Speaker 4: Is this man trying to tell me that every time

2309
01:36:24,920 --> 01:36:27,320
Speaker 4: we get an email from Alan, regardless of the last initial,

2310
01:36:27,360 --> 01:36:27,640
Speaker 4: it's him.

2311
01:36:27,760 --> 01:36:28,880
Speaker 2: Is that what he's trying to say? I don't he know?

2312
01:36:29,000 --> 01:36:31,920
Speaker 2: He looks like you ever heard of the Rappers? Dishes? No,

2313
01:36:32,640 --> 01:36:36,439
Speaker 2: that's he looks like Cody Rhoads a little too with this.

2314
01:36:36,720 --> 01:36:38,760
Speaker 2: I don't get it. Okay, am I missing? What's this

2315
01:36:38,800 --> 01:36:39,559
Speaker 2: supposed to be? Luca?

2316
01:36:39,600 --> 01:36:42,640
Speaker 3: I guess he's trying to preserve anonymity. I it's like

2317
01:36:42,680 --> 01:36:45,560
Speaker 3: Ada de Loos Moertos kind of thing. He looks like

2318
01:36:45,640 --> 01:36:49,040
Speaker 3: an extra in the stand video with eminem.

2319
01:36:48,680 --> 01:36:52,439
Speaker 2: Right, that was what's his face? The nineties heart throb

2320
01:36:53,000 --> 01:36:56,840
Speaker 2: Devin Sawa, Yes, Devin Sah from what was he in

2321
01:36:57,000 --> 01:36:59,960
Speaker 2: Little Giant? Final Destination? And wasn't he in Little Giant?

2322
01:37:00,120 --> 01:37:03,479
Speaker 2: Says the quarterback too. I don't know. I know he's

2323
01:37:03,520 --> 01:37:05,559
Speaker 2: in like a new Chucky movie. That's ice Box.

2324
01:37:06,320 --> 01:37:08,240
Speaker 4: She probably turned out, Okay, after she got out of

2325
01:37:08,280 --> 01:37:11,559
Speaker 4: that husky phase? Right, icebox? Who's icebox?

2326
01:37:11,760 --> 01:37:14,519
Speaker 2: From Little Giants? Am I the only one that movie?

2327
01:37:14,560 --> 01:37:16,840
Speaker 2: All right? All right, h Let's go over to Mike.

2328
01:37:16,880 --> 01:37:20,040
Speaker 2: He says, the wife recently brought bought me a drawing tablet,

2329
01:37:20,080 --> 01:37:22,720
Speaker 2: so I decided to learn some photoshop tricks using your

2330
01:37:22,760 --> 01:37:26,880
Speaker 2: goofy mugs. Thanks for all europe. You see, we really

2331
01:37:26,960 --> 01:37:29,640
Speaker 2: are just two old, washed pieces of shit. That's the

2332
01:37:29,720 --> 01:37:31,559
Speaker 2: spirit we bring to this ship. What do you think

2333
01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:34,000
Speaker 2: about this artwork here? It's like the take on Me video?

2334
01:37:34,200 --> 01:37:36,960
Speaker 4: Yes, A see, that's what I would look like if

2335
01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:38,840
Speaker 4: I had manly facial hair, the kind that fills in

2336
01:37:38,920 --> 01:37:41,320
Speaker 4: all the way around thickly Luke, But I was.

2337
01:37:41,840 --> 01:37:44,400
Speaker 2: You got some wallrsjowels in that picture. I was born

2338
01:37:44,479 --> 01:37:47,800
Speaker 2: with the right amount of testosterone. Apparently, I don't think

2339
01:37:47,840 --> 01:37:48,439
Speaker 2: that's the issue.

2340
01:37:49,120 --> 01:37:51,840
Speaker 4: All right, Well, I like this work from Mike haircut too,

2341
01:37:52,160 --> 01:37:55,040
Speaker 4: He says, thanks for all the content you unshowered heathens.

2342
01:37:55,200 --> 01:37:57,439
Speaker 4: Well that would be true most most shows. Let's go

2343
01:37:57,439 --> 01:37:59,920
Speaker 4: over to Christopher. I edited this little video to pay

2344
01:38:00,040 --> 01:38:02,920
Speaker 4: tribute to Chuck's legendary moment on the UFC two eighty

2345
01:38:02,960 --> 01:38:06,240
Speaker 4: one pregame preview. Never underestimate the man in the hat.

2346
01:38:06,720 --> 01:38:07,320
Speaker 4: Let's hear this.

2347
01:38:09,720 --> 01:38:11,960
Speaker 2: There there's I bet they're better. Dern didn't win. I

2348
01:38:12,040 --> 01:38:19,840
Speaker 2: bet you yeah, I bet that one. They could have

2349
01:38:19,880 --> 01:38:22,560
Speaker 2: done something with Wanna comes out of retirements, parachute in

2350
01:38:22,680 --> 01:38:28,200
Speaker 2: to rematch Carlo for the bell. I mean, what would

2351
01:38:28,240 --> 01:38:34,560
Speaker 2: it take to get you on on this couch? Bred Alkmo?

2352
01:38:35,320 --> 01:38:45,320
Speaker 2: That takes Yeah, that's like we like you, dude. That

2353
01:38:45,600 --> 01:38:46,599
Speaker 2: was really good.

2354
01:38:46,640 --> 01:38:50,599
Speaker 4: That's Christopher on the edit and the the future Hall

2355
01:38:50,600 --> 01:38:52,200
Speaker 4: of Famer Chuck min in Hall with that one line,

2356
01:38:52,600 --> 01:38:53,240
Speaker 4: by the way.

2357
01:38:53,200 --> 01:38:57,280
Speaker 2: Good dry humor, his little little excellent, just brilliant. Can't

2358
01:38:57,320 --> 01:38:58,479
Speaker 2: wait to see. This is a true story. Do you

2359
01:38:58,520 --> 01:39:00,200
Speaker 2: know what Chuckman? And he's been doing this. It's the

2360
01:39:00,280 --> 01:39:02,840
Speaker 2: MMA Beat days. This is true. He does this every time.

2361
01:39:02,920 --> 01:39:06,519
Speaker 3: When I say every time, I mean every time we'll

2362
01:39:06,560 --> 01:39:08,800
Speaker 3: do a podcast, whether it's this or The Beat or whatever,

2363
01:39:09,240 --> 01:39:10,680
Speaker 3: and then as soon as it's over, he always looks

2364
01:39:10,680 --> 01:39:13,120
Speaker 3: at the panel and goes, Okay, ready to do this

2365
01:39:13,240 --> 01:39:13,680
Speaker 3: one for real?

2366
01:39:14,720 --> 01:39:16,760
Speaker 2: Like the biggest dad joke ever does it every time?

2367
01:39:17,720 --> 01:39:19,840
Speaker 4: Uh, let's go back to Alan w of the many

2368
01:39:19,920 --> 01:39:22,440
Speaker 4: Allen's on the show, he says, you guys viewed Michelangelo's

2369
01:39:22,479 --> 01:39:26,040
Speaker 4: Lost Fresco, the creation of Tip to tip. Here is

2370
01:39:26,080 --> 01:39:29,479
Speaker 4: Michelangelo's lost painting the gift of vape, and then we

2371
01:39:29,640 --> 01:39:32,760
Speaker 4: also have Gift of Vape two bismo, and we also

2372
01:39:32,840 --> 01:39:36,400
Speaker 4: wait for version three point zero. Look, this is incredible.

2373
01:39:36,479 --> 01:39:38,559
Speaker 4: They give you a little little love pouch there. I mean,

2374
01:39:38,600 --> 01:39:40,639
Speaker 4: you're you're, you're jacked, but you you're also.

2375
01:39:40,520 --> 01:39:42,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm kind of like I got muscular arms with

2376
01:39:42,520 --> 01:39:44,479
Speaker 3: a big old fat well not a big old fat belly,

2377
01:39:44,520 --> 01:39:47,200
Speaker 3: but kind of a belly there with the pepto bismol

2378
01:39:47,240 --> 01:39:49,599
Speaker 3: over my my franken beans.

2379
01:39:49,840 --> 01:39:53,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is this is both disturbing and I kind

2380
01:39:53,439 --> 01:39:57,439
Speaker 2: of want it framed. Oh Jesus, that's weird. Good lord,

2381
01:39:57,560 --> 01:40:00,720
Speaker 2: what is that? I thought that was weed in your brain?

2382
01:40:00,800 --> 01:40:04,679
Speaker 2: Those are all people? Who are those people? You? Motherfucker? Yeah,

2383
01:40:04,880 --> 01:40:09,960
Speaker 2: I'm forever in your head And sadly, yes, this morning

2384
01:40:09,960 --> 01:40:13,720
Speaker 2: you were like you motherfucker. No, I don't think I

2385
01:40:13,800 --> 01:40:16,200
Speaker 2: called you a motherfucker. I said that was motherfucking stupid.

2386
01:40:16,479 --> 01:40:19,000
Speaker 2: You definitely called me a motherfucker. You definitely deserved it.

2387
01:40:19,080 --> 01:40:20,760
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I don't think so. But Wow,

2388
01:40:22,000 --> 01:40:24,200
Speaker 2: over my home. Why are you in a donut? Now?

2389
01:40:24,320 --> 01:40:26,840
Speaker 2: Did you see Crup fat shame me by saying oh

2390
01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:27,840
Speaker 2: to Boston Creams.

2391
01:40:28,200 --> 01:40:32,960
Speaker 4: Dude, dude, come on Crup all right. Uh, let's go

2392
01:40:32,960 --> 01:40:35,960
Speaker 4: over to Danger Mouse, a regular in these parts. He says, Hi, VC,

2393
01:40:36,240 --> 01:40:38,360
Speaker 4: just a couple from me this week. Can't believe I

2394
01:40:38,400 --> 01:40:41,200
Speaker 4: sent you a badly cropped one last week. It's supposed

2395
01:40:41,200 --> 01:40:43,000
Speaker 4: to be you guys who mess up, not the dunk

2396
01:40:43,040 --> 01:40:45,840
Speaker 4: of the year anyway. You two donks aren't giving me

2397
01:40:45,920 --> 01:40:47,880
Speaker 4: much to work with of late. Try and say more

2398
01:40:47,960 --> 01:40:50,439
Speaker 4: dumb ship please. I think this first one is pretty

2399
01:40:50,479 --> 01:40:51,520
Speaker 4: self explanatory.

2400
01:40:51,640 --> 01:40:53,759
Speaker 2: Luke was very surprised at what happened when he opened

2401
01:40:53,800 --> 01:41:01,200
Speaker 2: BC's d MS. Okay, those are dick shaped hot dogs?

2402
01:41:02,080 --> 01:41:03,840
Speaker 2: Hot dogs dick shape, Yeah kind of, but those have

2403
01:41:03,960 --> 01:41:06,080
Speaker 2: like an extra kind of a bell end.

2404
01:41:07,280 --> 01:41:10,400
Speaker 4: The second one is Danger Mouse, turning producer Mikey's comment

2405
01:41:10,400 --> 01:41:13,640
Speaker 4: about b c's Island of Misfit Toys into art.

2406
01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:19,760
Speaker 3: Wow, all right, so hold on, that's you want to

2407
01:41:19,800 --> 01:41:22,719
Speaker 3: in the bikini. That's Jake with the camera camera.

2408
01:41:22,920 --> 01:41:24,960
Speaker 2: That's Molly the Wonder Dog right there in the bottom right.

2409
01:41:24,920 --> 01:41:30,040
Speaker 3: Cornersula, And is that bast with Bullay. Okay, it's Mikey

2410
01:41:30,200 --> 01:41:30,920
Speaker 3: in the plane.

2411
01:41:31,200 --> 01:41:34,360
Speaker 2: Okay, that's Sasha the dog next to Reggie Jackson next

2412
01:41:34,400 --> 01:41:37,200
Speaker 2: to the guitar, next to the turtle. But who is that?

2413
01:41:37,360 --> 01:41:38,960
Speaker 2: Is that? Mick Fleetwood next to him? Who is that?

2414
01:41:39,160 --> 01:41:41,240
Speaker 2: I don't know who who has the Santa hat? So

2415
01:41:41,400 --> 01:41:43,880
Speaker 2: Dicky Bets or Mick Fleetwood? You guys got any feel

2416
01:41:43,960 --> 01:41:47,240
Speaker 2: on that? Also, there's a dolphin in the bottom right

2417
01:41:47,280 --> 01:41:51,040
Speaker 2: hand corner next to Molly. Yeah. Wow, this is uh,

2418
01:41:52,040 --> 01:41:55,880
Speaker 2: this is interesting. That looks like the worst island ever. No,

2419
01:41:56,040 --> 01:41:58,240
Speaker 2: that island's actually pretty awesome. You got a record player,

2420
01:41:58,360 --> 01:42:00,640
Speaker 2: I'd rather be on like Snake Island to them that one.

2421
01:42:00,720 --> 01:42:03,760
Speaker 2: You got a nice, nice strat right there, a black

2422
01:42:03,840 --> 01:42:06,599
Speaker 2: one to jam on, Luke, This is great all right?

2423
01:42:07,600 --> 01:42:08,400
Speaker 2: Got strawhites.

2424
01:42:10,960 --> 01:42:14,439
Speaker 4: Uh And finally, this is JP from Mount Unike with

2425
01:42:14,520 --> 01:42:16,639
Speaker 4: a video message for US boys here at MBUK.

2426
01:42:19,240 --> 01:42:23,000
Speaker 6: Goodday, Luke BC and MK Nation super fan Ja pikent

2427
01:42:23,200 --> 01:42:27,599
Speaker 6: aka JP coming you from beautiful Mountain Uniak Nova, Scotia, Canada.

2428
01:42:28,360 --> 01:42:32,720
Speaker 6: Back in episode three forty eights, my custom metal fabricated

2429
01:42:32,920 --> 01:42:36,320
Speaker 6: Morning Combat sign was featured on fan subs Well. Luke

2430
01:42:36,479 --> 01:42:39,280
Speaker 6: liked it so much he said, you know what, maybe

2431
01:42:39,320 --> 01:42:43,200
Speaker 6: I should go to Jay's property and steal it from him. Luke,

2432
01:42:43,560 --> 01:42:46,560
Speaker 6: before you did wrong me. Let's go to the videotape.

2433
01:42:47,640 --> 01:42:49,960
Speaker 2: Maybe JP will invite us to be a lakehouse.

2434
01:42:50,040 --> 01:42:52,599
Speaker 3: Lu Yeah, we'll invite us to the lakehouse, and which

2435
01:42:52,640 --> 01:42:53,680
Speaker 3: one I will just steal it.

2436
01:42:56,280 --> 01:42:59,720
Speaker 6: I recently reached out to Kyle Federally of Smoking the

2437
01:42:59,760 --> 01:43:02,320
Speaker 6: Water metal fabrication design and I said, you know what, Kyle,

2438
01:43:02,640 --> 01:43:04,240
Speaker 6: I think we're gonna need a few more of these

2439
01:43:04,280 --> 01:43:07,120
Speaker 6: science and Kyle was great. He invited me over to

2440
01:43:07,200 --> 01:43:10,720
Speaker 6: his metal fabrication shop for the entire afternoon and he

2441
01:43:10,800 --> 01:43:13,360
Speaker 6: allowed me to take pictures and video the entire process.

2442
01:43:13,720 --> 01:43:15,080
Speaker 6: Let's take a look and see how it went.

2443
01:43:15,360 --> 01:43:16,960
Speaker 2: This motherfucker has a whole book report.

2444
01:43:21,320 --> 01:43:41,400
Speaker 7: You're pretty bad after him. Look about fabrication. Look this

2445
01:43:41,520 --> 01:43:44,960
Speaker 7: a Borlin factory. There writ Boriline about it.

2446
01:43:51,160 --> 01:43:56,280
Speaker 6: Luke, BC and MK staff is a very special thanks

2447
01:43:56,479 --> 01:43:59,240
Speaker 6: for all you do for us fans. I'll be sending

2448
01:43:59,320 --> 01:44:01,920
Speaker 6: in three's custom metal signs into the show.

2449
01:44:03,160 --> 01:44:07,680
Speaker 2: Damn JP backwards fucker well the whole thing to the

2450
01:44:07,880 --> 01:44:09,360
Speaker 2: entire m K team.

2451
01:44:09,720 --> 01:44:12,640
Speaker 6: Thank you so much for allowing us fans to be

2452
01:44:12,800 --> 01:44:16,000
Speaker 6: such a great part of such a terrific, terrific show.

2453
01:44:16,120 --> 01:44:17,960
Speaker 2: Hey, could this fucker have more smoke alarms in his

2454
01:44:18,080 --> 01:44:18,639
Speaker 2: right hand corner.

2455
01:44:19,240 --> 01:44:21,960
Speaker 6: This is JP super fan coming to you from Matt

2456
01:44:22,000 --> 01:44:28,479
Speaker 6: You Nike, No, my brother our gains be loyal in

2457
01:44:28,560 --> 01:44:30,799
Speaker 6: two words out.

2458
01:44:33,280 --> 01:44:36,920
Speaker 2: Luke, that's a potential power move to try to become

2459
01:44:36,920 --> 01:44:38,120
Speaker 2: the I like how my.

2460
01:44:38,160 --> 01:44:40,040
Speaker 3: Man just made a video message making it all about

2461
01:44:40,080 --> 01:44:42,599
Speaker 3: himself and then got on the fucking shirt.

2462
01:44:42,720 --> 01:44:47,120
Speaker 2: Look at this, bro, Wow, Wow, Look it's it may

2463
01:44:47,200 --> 01:44:49,599
Speaker 2: be hard to beat this for Donk of the Year.

2464
01:44:49,800 --> 01:44:53,519
Speaker 2: He just sent us. He just sent us this gift. Look,

2465
01:44:53,600 --> 01:44:54,880
Speaker 2: this is gonna this is what it's gonna look like

2466
01:44:54,880 --> 01:44:57,920
Speaker 2: when I put you in horny jail, Luke, Okay, put

2467
01:44:58,080 --> 01:45:00,599
Speaker 2: me in horny jail. All the fucking st are about

2468
01:45:00,640 --> 01:45:09,160
Speaker 2: me vaping and you masturbating. Oh look at this. JP knows, dude.

2469
01:45:09,200 --> 01:45:11,160
Speaker 2: You can smell the fresh coat of paint on this. Dude,

2470
01:45:11,160 --> 01:45:13,400
Speaker 2: that smells what do they call that section the Maritimes

2471
01:45:13,479 --> 01:45:15,280
Speaker 2: in Canada? Loop? Yes, make that up? I think so

2472
01:45:16,400 --> 01:45:22,280
Speaker 2: holy ship balls. Wow, thank you so much. JP. Look, JP,

2473
01:45:22,479 --> 01:45:24,200
Speaker 2: this is you've out done yourself with this will you

2474
01:45:24,280 --> 01:45:27,560
Speaker 2: put this outside your house? Outside my house? Yeah, like

2475
01:45:27,720 --> 01:45:32,160
Speaker 2: like near your outdoor gym. My outdoor gym is just

2476
01:45:32,280 --> 01:45:35,519
Speaker 2: my front yard. So no, I won't do that, but

2477
01:45:36,160 --> 01:45:38,040
Speaker 2: I will put this in my in my office. Oh

2478
01:45:38,160 --> 01:45:40,960
Speaker 2: this is great, This is so good. I yeah, this

2479
01:45:41,160 --> 01:45:43,000
Speaker 2: is great. This is going to make for an interesting

2480
01:45:43,040 --> 01:45:45,280
Speaker 2: travel piece on the train right home. Yeah. Yeah. It

2481
01:45:45,360 --> 01:45:47,559
Speaker 2: could be a weapon at the Newark, Penn train station. Luke,

2482
01:45:48,880 --> 01:45:51,280
Speaker 2: I don't know, dude. Does this kill zombies with mola?

2483
01:45:51,360 --> 01:45:54,160
Speaker 2: I don't know if it does, this could deflect many

2484
01:45:54,280 --> 01:45:56,519
Speaker 2: airborne illnesses. Just hold this out at the.

2485
01:45:56,520 --> 01:45:58,760
Speaker 3: People, right, Is it like a cross to get rid

2486
01:45:58,760 --> 01:46:01,760
Speaker 3: of zombies? Just fucking or Dracula or whatever?

2487
01:46:01,760 --> 01:46:03,599
Speaker 2: The fuck? All right, can we have a real talk

2488
01:46:03,640 --> 01:46:06,120
Speaker 2: moment here? That's pretty cool this Dounk of the Year race?

2489
01:46:06,200 --> 01:46:08,920
Speaker 2: Did it just turn? It just turned like Appleton's gonna

2490
01:46:08,920 --> 01:46:11,000
Speaker 2: have to show up, show up his hog. No, what's

2491
01:46:11,040 --> 01:46:12,920
Speaker 2: gonna have to happen? Okay, Appleton, I don't want to

2492
01:46:12,920 --> 01:46:15,559
Speaker 2: see your hog, so please don't do that. What about

2493
01:46:15,600 --> 01:46:17,360
Speaker 2: Russell and Elvis? I mean there's some people that are

2494
01:46:17,360 --> 01:46:18,400
Speaker 2: watching this going on. Shit.

2495
01:46:18,560 --> 01:46:21,360
Speaker 3: I gotta say for this level of detail which he

2496
01:46:21,439 --> 01:46:22,920
Speaker 3: not only went through to get this done, which is

2497
01:46:23,000 --> 01:46:26,200
Speaker 3: generous of him to make the video shot backwards.

2498
01:46:26,479 --> 01:46:28,439
Speaker 2: He's a little need some help. I mean, little Anthony's

2499
01:46:28,439 --> 01:46:30,160
Speaker 2: gonna have to name his kid after you to get

2500
01:46:30,200 --> 01:46:33,240
Speaker 2: back in this race, right, Litil Anthony? Yeah, remember the fakes?

2501
01:46:33,280 --> 01:46:34,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah.

2502
01:46:34,600 --> 01:46:38,760
Speaker 3: Uh, I'm just gonna declare Jay as our leading candidate. Also,

2503
01:46:38,920 --> 01:46:40,559
Speaker 3: isn't it Jay's wife food like done?

2504
01:46:40,640 --> 01:46:42,680
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, the boss lady? Yeah yeah, I'm gonna say

2505
01:46:42,720 --> 01:46:45,160
Speaker 2: that's the one two tandem? Right there? Are they? The

2506
01:46:45,280 --> 01:46:49,919
Speaker 2: new Bill and uh Bill and Jen har v Adventures?

2507
01:46:49,960 --> 01:46:52,080
Speaker 2: Did Bill and Jen just die or the show? I

2508
01:46:52,120 --> 01:46:54,120
Speaker 2: can't confirm they're alive, but I know they sold the

2509
01:46:54,240 --> 01:46:56,000
Speaker 2: RV and they're living in Pennsylvania for a bit. No,

2510
01:46:56,479 --> 01:46:58,760
Speaker 2: that's sad. It doesn't have to be sad. You canna

2511
01:46:58,760 --> 01:47:02,760
Speaker 2: have a good life in Pennsylvania, can you? Yeah? I

2512
01:47:02,840 --> 01:47:06,719
Speaker 2: mean quite available is from Bethlehem. He got the funk

2513
01:47:06,760 --> 01:47:11,200
Speaker 2: out too. Yeah. But this is tremendous, Jay, this is tremendous.

2514
01:47:11,760 --> 01:47:13,479
Speaker 2: Look at this is this is the first time we've

2515
01:47:13,520 --> 01:47:17,160
Speaker 2: praised j on this show any j right, Well, the

2516
01:47:17,240 --> 01:47:19,080
Speaker 2: other one, the O to Jay is impossible to praise.

2517
01:47:19,160 --> 01:47:22,400
Speaker 2: He is just a total reprobate. This is great. I

2518
01:47:22,479 --> 01:47:28,000
Speaker 2: mean I could Yeah, are you gonna smash that over? Is?

2519
01:47:28,080 --> 01:47:30,040
Speaker 2: He should hang this from the nipple, just to really

2520
01:47:30,200 --> 01:47:32,000
Speaker 2: just play that thing out of it. I mean, the

2521
01:47:32,240 --> 01:47:34,680
Speaker 2: titty sacks enough. I mean, let's just be real. This

2522
01:47:34,840 --> 01:47:36,680
Speaker 2: is so good, right, I don't even know what to

2523
01:47:36,800 --> 01:47:38,759
Speaker 2: do with it. Yeah, you can grate cheese.

2524
01:47:39,320 --> 01:47:42,280
Speaker 4: Look, I'm sorry that I that I broke your your

2525
01:47:42,800 --> 01:47:44,879
Speaker 4: I broke our chemistry, and I broke your confidence.

2526
01:47:44,920 --> 01:47:47,120
Speaker 2: All Right, we already talked about it. We're good. I'm

2527
01:47:47,160 --> 01:47:49,080
Speaker 2: an adult. We move on. This is true. I'd be

2528
01:47:49,120 --> 01:47:50,760
Speaker 2: willing to challenge you to a rematch on high court,

2529
01:47:50,800 --> 01:47:54,439
Speaker 2: though you don't want to do that. Do you think

2530
01:47:54,439 --> 01:47:56,160
Speaker 2: we'll ever get that vehicle on the ground again?

2531
01:47:56,520 --> 01:47:58,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, if we just we just have to have the

2532
01:47:58,080 --> 01:48:02,479
Speaker 3: right the right topic. Okay, that's all. By the way,

2533
01:48:02,479 --> 01:48:03,960
Speaker 3: I want to hold the John Jones one until there

2534
01:48:04,040 --> 01:48:06,040
Speaker 3: was news. But y'all just you know, well it was

2535
01:48:06,120 --> 01:48:08,559
Speaker 3: great content waiting to be watched. That's the difference between

2536
01:48:08,560 --> 01:48:10,600
Speaker 3: you and I. You're like all strategic and shit. I'm like,

2537
01:48:10,640 --> 01:48:12,760
Speaker 3: I got great content that people need to see it. Yeah,

2538
01:48:13,080 --> 01:48:14,719
Speaker 3: And if that's me talking to Brian Barbarina.

2539
01:48:14,760 --> 01:48:15,439
Speaker 2: That's what it is, Luke.

2540
01:48:15,479 --> 01:48:17,240
Speaker 3: Okay, it can be many things, all right. I want

2541
01:48:17,240 --> 01:48:20,360
Speaker 3: to remind everyone the store Morningcombat dot Store. For everyone

2542
01:48:20,400 --> 01:48:24,439
Speaker 3: who got the digital or whatever the fuck Cyber Monday

2543
01:48:24,520 --> 01:48:26,639
Speaker 3: and then Black Fried all that stuff. Congrats, it should

2544
01:48:26,720 --> 01:48:29,400
Speaker 3: be in your house soon. Thank you for everyone who purchased.

2545
01:48:29,400 --> 01:48:31,320
Speaker 3: Of course, showtime dot Com is the label that pays

2546
01:48:31,640 --> 01:48:33,120
Speaker 3: thirty day free trial. If you like it, you can

2547
01:48:33,200 --> 01:48:34,720
Speaker 3: keep it. If not, you can bounce, and don't forget.

2548
01:48:34,760 --> 01:48:37,360
Speaker 3: We're gonna have a double dose probably of Dead Wrong. So,

2549
01:48:37,360 --> 01:48:39,120
Speaker 3: by the way, I have an idea about Dead Dead Wrong.

2550
01:48:39,160 --> 01:48:40,840
Speaker 2: I want to run by you. I'm gonna do it

2551
01:48:41,000 --> 01:48:42,720
Speaker 2: right now. Yeah, I have an idea about it.

2552
01:48:42,960 --> 01:48:45,360
Speaker 4: Or in true in true recent history of the show,

2553
01:48:45,400 --> 01:48:47,519
Speaker 4: you should just activate the idea without asking.

2554
01:48:47,400 --> 01:48:50,040
Speaker 3: Your coost and that works out great between us, it

2555
01:48:50,080 --> 01:48:52,880
Speaker 3: turns out, no, seriously, here's my idea, and I think

2556
01:48:52,920 --> 01:48:54,479
Speaker 3: we have to flush it out a little bit, but

2557
01:48:54,600 --> 01:48:58,320
Speaker 3: it could work. I love Dead Wrong, but one of

2558
01:48:58,400 --> 01:49:00,200
Speaker 3: the problems with it is it ends up being a

2559
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Speaker 3: little bit pedantic and a little bit silly.

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Speaker 2: It's like, oh, the capital of this state was X,

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Speaker 2: and it does allow we we're the rare show that

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Speaker 2: gives people a chance to dunk on us.

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Speaker 3: Right, we'll throw you the law. I don't mind the dunking. Actually,

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Speaker 3: if I can think the dunking is essential, you need

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Speaker 3: the audience to do that.

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Speaker 2: I don't mind that. But I kind of don't like that.

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Speaker 3: It's all about like, oh, you said it was UFC

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Speaker 3: one oh seven, it's actually one oh eight, right, where

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Speaker 3: you get these sort of small marginal things wrong. What

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Speaker 3: about a dead wrong where someone records and it has

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Speaker 3: to be narrow, a sixty second video making an argument

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Speaker 3: that we're wrong about something we've said.

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Speaker 2: And we have to argue.

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Speaker 4: So it's not fact based as much as it's opinion based.

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Speaker 4: But here's some facts to fuel my opinion. Yes, better,

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Speaker 4: What do you think about that? We'd have to flesh

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Speaker 4: out how it would work.

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Speaker 2: How do you like that idea? I do like that.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, while they're like reading you the

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Speaker 3: riot Act, you could put either your face or my

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Speaker 3: face on camera getting lectured.

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't. I think it's a pretty good idea.

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Speaker 2: I like it.

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Speaker 3: If you guys like that, email the show Morning Coombat

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Speaker 3: at gmail dot com. We could still do like, Hey,

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Speaker 3: we said it was one of seven and it was

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Speaker 3: one O nine. That can still be on the board.

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Speaker 3: But like, I want to have a part of the show,

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Speaker 3: a little bit of a give and take, huh, between

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Speaker 3: us and the audience. I kind of like that idea.

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Speaker 4: I'm willing to give and take with you at any time, Luke.

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Speaker 4: Like that free throw contest I did, We'll get against you.

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Speaker 4: I was willing to give and take, which I won.

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Speaker 4: But I haven't seen Oh yes, I did anything. I

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Speaker 4: haven't seen any proof.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well that is it for us today. Do

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Speaker 2: you see any final thoughts?

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Speaker 4: Look, JP and are fantastic. I don't want to call

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Speaker 4: them fans because that's weird. Look, they're like family members, right,

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Speaker 4: a little bit coexistors.

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Speaker 2: There are people who are.

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Speaker 4: Walking through this world, the ups and downs, the growth

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Speaker 4: of men and even sometimes women. We're walking with you, guys. Okay,

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Speaker 4: I mean they pay us all to walk with them,

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Speaker 4: but still you know, we're walking with you, guys.

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Speaker 2: This is life.

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Speaker 4: Things happen. Friends fight sometimes because maybe one person wrong

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Speaker 4: the other.

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Speaker 2: Okay, can you stop with this nonsense? Was