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Speaker 1: It's Gil Alexander alongside why at Tom check in for
Speaker 1: the vacationing Kelly Bidlin on this Monday week seventeen guessing lines.
Speaker 1: Good morning to you.
Speaker 4: Sir, Good morning, wait Kelly's vacationing. He said he was
Speaker 4: going to the bathroom and said hold to seat for
Speaker 4: five minutes.
Speaker 1: Where did he go like Turks Tahiti. Where did he go?
Speaker 4: I think just to Florida. And I think there was
Speaker 4: no hurricanes to Florida. I don't think there was any
Speaker 4: hurricanes coming in.
Speaker 1: Wyatt Tom Check. For those who don't know his street
Speaker 1: cred is that he is the voice of UNLV women's
Speaker 1: basketball and other sports.
Speaker 4: I did and I prepared for this one today, Gil.
Speaker 4: I brought in our championship ring from last year.
Speaker 1: Wow, championship of what the Mountain West like championship ring?
Speaker 1: I think really they really give out those rings for
Speaker 1: the Mountains championship.
Speaker 4: Yeah, everybody gets if you were in a conference championship, boy,
Speaker 4: you are. I mean, this thing is is legit. This
Speaker 4: is probably the best best one I've gotten so far.
Speaker 1: Congratulations on your ring, man, Thank you glad you would
Speaker 1: you wear that every day?
Speaker 4: I just this is the first time I've warned it.
Speaker 4: All right, I wore for you.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate that. Championship of what oh conference? Gotcha?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 1: For those who have not been on this show before.
Speaker 1: On Mondays, what we do is we guess the lines
Speaker 1: of the upcoming weekends NFL games. We hope to extract
Speaker 1: value in that process, and during that we also look
Speaker 1: back at the week that was in the National Football League.
Speaker 1: We always start though, with guessing lines before we get
Speaker 1: to the guess of the lines itself. With a Circus
Speaker 1: Survivor update, there were fifty headed into this weekend. There
Speaker 1: are now forty five. Four get bounced with the Arizona Cardinals,
Speaker 1: one with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers last night. There are
Speaker 1: twenty one still to play, though twenty one are on
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers tonight against the New Orleans Saints.
Speaker 1: Of course, the Packers two touchdown favorites in that game.
Speaker 1: What could possibly go wrong? But if it is in
Speaker 1: fact forty five that advance, If in fact it is
Speaker 1: forty five that advance to the Christmas quote unquote week,
Speaker 1: the two games on Thursday, the one game on Friday
Speaker 1: acting as its own week at Circus Survivor, the intrinsic
Speaker 1: value of each heading into that Christmas week would be
Speaker 1: three hundred and seventeen thousand, twenty two dollars and twenty
Speaker 1: two cents. Don't forget the cents, three hundred and seventeen
Speaker 1: twenty two dollars twenty two cents. We will get get
Speaker 1: into those Christmas Christmas doubleheader, and of course the game
Speaker 1: on Thursday night as well. What to do these folks do?
Speaker 1: By the way, can we show that the tweet right
Speaker 1: now before we do that? This is from Tony Farmer,
Speaker 1: who does this courtesy of Survivor Outlics. Survivor Autless is
Speaker 1: the one keeping all the stats on Circus Survivor. Tony
Speaker 1: Farmer at Tony's Market Tips is kind enough to pass
Speaker 1: them along to me. So on the left you might
Speaker 1: not be able to see this on the screen because
Speaker 1: it might be too small when we get to it.
Speaker 1: But on the left would be the availability of the
Speaker 1: six teams playing on Thursday and Friday, the Bears of
Speaker 1: the forty five remaining again, assuming the Packers get through tonight,
Speaker 1: of the forty five remaining entries, and by the way,
Speaker 1: it's forty five human beings now there are no more
Speaker 1: players with multiple entries. Twenty nine have the Bears available,
Speaker 1: twenty three have the Steelers available, twenty one have the
Speaker 1: Seahawks available, Ravens eleven, Chiefs only available to four, Houston
Speaker 1: only available to three. The thing about this is that
Speaker 1: if my guests are anywhere close, these are all going
Speaker 1: to be tightly lined here on the right. What he
Speaker 1: is showing in the yellow is if you were basing
Speaker 1: it on the point spread, and I can see my
Speaker 1: point spread is going to be tucking neatly around some
Speaker 1: of these, although some of them seem a little off.
Speaker 1: But I'll give you my actual guesses Seattle would be
Speaker 1: the quote unquote optimal pick based on point spreads and availability.
Speaker 1: If you are playing it that way. That last phrase
Speaker 1: is probably the key if you are playing it that
Speaker 1: way without any other kind of game theory. My suggestion
Speaker 1: in that sentence is perhaps you shouldn't play it that way,
Speaker 1: But what do I know? I always bounced long ago.
Speaker 1: Forty five entries remain, and good luck to all that
Speaker 1: are in obviously twenty one more on the Packers tonight,
Speaker 1: which brings us to guessing lines Week seventeen in the
Speaker 1: National Football League. N Barrio Quick, you're bringing ball? Oh
Speaker 1: you know, all right, Wyatt, you're playing the role of
Speaker 1: Kelly Bidley today.
Speaker 4: All right, I'll make sure I won't do what Kelly
Speaker 4: did on the last game last week, which was hilarious.
Speaker 1: He goes, he goes thirteen. I was like guess thirteen.
Speaker 4: So this week in the NFL is. You mentioned it's
Speaker 4: going to be Christmas Day, so the week starts on Wednesdays.
Speaker 4: We have to bump up the megapot too, Tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Megapot is tomorrow.
Speaker 4: So first game on Wednesday, one pm Eastern time, the
Speaker 4: Chiefs taken on the Steelers.
Speaker 1: Chiefs at Steelers. So we've known obviously for those who
Speaker 1: have been in Survivor or locked in Survivor and anyway,
Speaker 1: you've known these three games or I haven't locked into
Speaker 1: your brain anyway for the entire season. Chiefs at Steelers.
Speaker 1: The fourteen and one Kansas City Chiefs against the ten
Speaker 1: and five Steelers. Chiefs coming up coming off the win
Speaker 1: over the Texans on Saturday. Basically, what we have on
Speaker 1: Christmas is an opponent swap from what we had this
Speaker 1: past week on Saturday. So Kansas City beach Houston. They
Speaker 1: do so on the strength of well, it started out
Speaker 1: with a Houston pick third and twelve with their own
Speaker 1: forty three Stroud picked by Jayden Hicks. That led to
Speaker 1: a six six yard Kansas City drive mahomes in from
Speaker 1: fifteen seven to nothing Chiefs. But the Texans did take
Speaker 1: the lead at seven to three. They ran a thirteen
Speaker 1: they ran themselves a thirteen play eighty two yard drive
Speaker 1: Stroud and Nico Collins the big chunk for thirty to
Speaker 1: Schultz from ten out. It was ten to seven Houston
Speaker 1: with ten oh nine left in the second quarter, but
Speaker 1: that was the last lead. They would have Kansas City
Speaker 1: eighty two yard driver right after that, because God forbid,
Speaker 1: they don't have a lead for a long time. Hunt
Speaker 1: in from three fourteen to ten Kansas City. Stroud would
Speaker 1: get picked by Trent McDuffie. That would lead to a
Speaker 1: butckerfield goal seventeen to ten Chiefs at the half. Third
Speaker 1: quarter Houston four plays fifty yards pardon me they did.
Speaker 1: They were about to tie the game Stroud to Dell
Speaker 1: for three, but two things happen here. Fair Baron misses
Speaker 1: the extra point, so the Chiefs still lead at seventeen
Speaker 1: to sixteen, and more significantly, Tank Dell with a significant
Speaker 1: knee injury already a kneecap displacement. That's the first thing
Speaker 1: that we know for sure, But the extent of that
Speaker 1: injury still not known, and it looks to what everybody's
Speaker 1: saying is that it is a bad injury and that
Speaker 1: will be probably the season for Tank Dell, So you
Speaker 1: don't have Dell, you don't have Diggs if you're Houston.
Speaker 1: Moving forward into the postseason seventeen to sixteen, though Kansas
Speaker 1: City would extended ten plays eighty yards Mahomes to Worthy
Speaker 1: from a twenty four to sixteen, they would get to
Speaker 1: twenty four to nineteen, then to twenty seven to nineteen
Speaker 1: in favor of the Chiefs, and Houston would then with
Speaker 1: five eighteen left in the game, down one possession, three
Speaker 1: and out, Kansas City got the ball. After that, they
Speaker 1: would never relinquish a ballgame. Chiefs fourteen and one. But apparently,
Speaker 1: as long as Mahomes is playing, we can't give Andy
Speaker 1: Reid a Coach of the Year because they'll never get
Speaker 1: credit for it. Even if they go sixteen to one.
Speaker 1: The Chief's magic number, if we were toe to the
Speaker 1: baseball way of doing things, is one a Chiefs, one
Speaker 1: Chiefs win, one Bill's loss, and the Chiefs will will
Speaker 1: have the number one seed throughout the course of the
Speaker 1: AFC playoffs. So once again, all the power rankings, Schmaer
Speaker 1: schmankings that we've had all year long, it looks like
Speaker 1: that it will go through Arrowhead. Yet Againsburg Pittsburgh loses
Speaker 1: to Baltimore in a game. Quite frankly, that was the
Speaker 1: key play of the game was in the first half,
Speaker 1: I think seven to seven game, Pittsburgh is matriculating second
Speaker 1: and six of the Baltimore twenty three. Russell Wilson with
Speaker 1: a great run inside the five. He's hit by our
Speaker 1: Darius Washington, fumbles recovered by Kyle van Noy, and Baltimore
Speaker 1: then goes on an eight play ninety six yard drive
Speaker 1: Lamar to Bateman from fourteen out. Halfway through the second quarter.
Speaker 1: It'd be seventeen to ten Baltimore at the half. Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: would tie it up for second drive of the third quarter,
Speaker 1: eight plays eighty eight yards Wilson and Calvin Austin for
Speaker 1: forty four to start to Grederyl Patterson from twelve out
Speaker 1: at seventeen seventeen with five fourteen left in the third quarter,
Speaker 1: and then it was all Baltimore. Baltimore six plays sixty
Speaker 1: yards all on Lamar's feet and arms Lamarta Andrews from
Speaker 1: seven out twenty four to seventeen. Pittsburgh would then turn
Speaker 1: it over on downs. A'd attempt a fourth and seven
Speaker 1: at the Baltimore forty six incomplete intendant for Austin Baltimore
Speaker 1: first and goal with the ten lamoar picked by Fitzpatrick though,
Speaker 1: and then the play of the second half Pittsburg xecud
Speaker 1: to seven at their own thirty six Wilson picked by
Speaker 1: Marlin Humphrey to that house pick six thirty one seventeen
Speaker 1: Baltimore with thirteen oh six left in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1: And then I just want to bring this point up here.
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh is down fourteen in the fourth quarter. Does this
Speaker 1: sound familiar to you from last week against the Eagles?
Speaker 1: They were down fourteen in that game in the fourth
Speaker 1: quarter with about ten plus minutes left, and Mike Tomalin
Speaker 1: decided to punt here down fourteen. He does the same
Speaker 1: thing with nine to twenty six left, fourth and twelve
Speaker 1: at midfield, down fourteen, with nine to twenty six left,
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin punts. I'm sorry, but you cannot be considered
Speaker 1: for coach of the year when you do this. I
Speaker 1: do not get this, man. Baltimore would have a field
Speaker 1: GOALLL thirty four to seventeen. Ravens win it going away,
Speaker 1: as Pittsburgh would then punt in the closing closing minutes
Speaker 1: because it didn't matter at that point. So Kansas City
Speaker 1: has at Pittsburgh to start at Christmas Day. I got
Speaker 1: Kansas City minus three and a half on the road
Speaker 1: here at Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4: Are you pretty close? We've got Kansas City minus two
Speaker 4: and a half.
Speaker 1: Oh well, that's through the three though. That is a
Speaker 1: that's interesting that it's less than a field goal. Less
Speaker 1: than a field goal at Pittsburgh. A little surprised by that.
Speaker 1: I just want to say, since we're talking a little
Speaker 1: wards here, we'll get to the other games here after
Speaker 1: the break. But Lamar Jackson three more touchdown passes he
Speaker 1: does throw the pick to Fitzpatrick. He now has If
Speaker 1: you look at the awards in the NFL, I think
Speaker 1: we'll get to it. Jayden Daniels probably at this point,
Speaker 1: and the only question is whether he's a unanimous Rookie
Speaker 1: of the Year or not. Offensive Rookie of the Year.
Speaker 1: Coach of the Year Kevin O'Connell I think is the
Speaker 1: correct favorite now. When it comes to comeback Player of
Speaker 1: the Year, I think we have that slotted for Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow going away. They're not good enough, the Bengals aren't
Speaker 1: for him to be the MVP. So He's the comeback
Speaker 1: player of the year Saquon who's flirting with Eric Dickerson's
Speaker 1: season rushing yards record, albeit one extra game than Dickerson had.
Speaker 1: He's probably your offensive player of the Year. But when
Speaker 1: it comes to MVP, I keep saying this, and I
Speaker 1: a full disclosure. I'm saying it through the fact that
Speaker 1: I have a Lamar Jackson ticket at plus seven fifty.
Speaker 1: Thankfully I have Daniels seven to one for Rookie the
Speaker 1: Year too, but at plus seven fifty, I have Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1: This went from minus nine hundred on Josh Allen this
Speaker 1: past week to minus five fifty on Josh Allen. Lamar
Speaker 1: is now at four to one. He went from plus
Speaker 1: five fifty to four to one after this weekend's games.
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, I just want to say this again. He
Speaker 1: has thirty seven touchdown passes and four picks. Nobody has
Speaker 1: ever thrown in the history of the NFL forty or
Speaker 1: more touchdown passes with as few as four picks, so
Speaker 1: he's chasing that. He has the fourth highest passer rating
Speaker 1: the old school passer rating of one fifty eight point three,
Speaker 1: the fourth highest. Currently two games left to play in
Speaker 1: the history of the NFL. He has nearly eight hundred
Speaker 1: rushing yards as well, He's the twenty fifth leading rusher
Speaker 1: in the NFL if you just want to put it
Speaker 1: in that terminology as well. And Josh Allen's performance this
Speaker 1: past weekend was pedestrian, very many pedestrian didn't do anything
Speaker 1: how And I'm the first one to concede if you
Speaker 1: take the words most valuable player literally, Josh Allen is
Speaker 1: probably that because if you remove them with the Bills,
Speaker 1: I don't know if they win three games. But those
Speaker 1: stats from Lamar Jackson were just gonna look the other way.
Speaker 1: I don't think so. And based on our conversations with
Speaker 1: Aaron Shotts and Mike Sando to voters, I think people
Speaker 1: ought to consider what could happen here coming back more
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Speaker 1: Week seventeen. So I kind of like Kansas City. If
Speaker 1: it's less than three, I may bite on that. In
Speaker 1: what has been a slim pickens the last few weeks
Speaker 1: in the NFL, that might be the only, uh, that
Speaker 1: might be one of the few edges I need to
Speaker 1: trigger a bet here.
Speaker 4: And I think just the way Pittsburgh has played the
Speaker 4: last couple of weeks, it's just been kind of very
Speaker 4: you know, getting beat by double digits, really really dominating
Speaker 4: that Eagles game, and I mean it is Russ starting
Speaker 4: to kind of take a step back.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's taking a step back. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think he's been as good as as one could
Speaker 1: hope he could hear that he is, especially after barn
Speaker 1: me what we saw in Denver. But I will say,
Speaker 1: you know, Pittsburgh obviously right now, they have the tiebreaker
Speaker 1: over the Ravens right now if it ended tide. They're teetering, though,
Speaker 1: because the Ravens knocking at the door obviously built teams
Speaker 1: with a ten and five record of the AFC North,
Speaker 1: the Ravens might have the edge given Pittsburgh's schedule, we'll
Speaker 1: hear the last couple of weeks. Kansas City would love
Speaker 1: to get the number one seed out of the way.
Speaker 1: Two days from now. They can if they can win
Speaker 1: this game against Pittsburgh. You're fifteen and one. You do
Speaker 1: not have to play Week eighteen. You don't have to
Speaker 1: play any of your players if you don't want to.
Speaker 1: Mahomes is that's healthy ankle, by the way, And you
Speaker 1: play in early in week sixteen, So think about that.
Speaker 1: I mean, you would have a two and a half week,
Speaker 1: is that correct, Yes, a two and a half week,
Speaker 1: two and a half weeks till you played another meaningful
Speaker 1: football game. A lot of people say, oh, but that's
Speaker 1: a rust versus rest thing. The Chiefs don't qualify for
Speaker 1: that kind of They could take two months off, they
Speaker 1: could do whatever they want.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was gonna say, we got to give credit
Speaker 4: to the athletic training staff for the Chiefs. Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 4: looks so good out there. I'm just running.
Speaker 1: I said this last week. His most underrated skill quote
Speaker 1: unquote is his healing power. It does not matter what
Speaker 1: happens to him. He seems to be teflon.
Speaker 4: If that happened to us, we'd be off for like
Speaker 4: three months.
Speaker 1: Oh bro, I've become my father with stuff like that.
Speaker 1: He still I remember when as a kid something would
Speaker 1: happen on a football field, it would take me thirty
Speaker 1: minutes to get up off the grove. I've become him now.
Speaker 1: Joe Ryan is not happy with me. We get tweets
Speaker 1: and beating of the book. He was tweeting me earlier.
Speaker 1: He said he was presenting Caleb Williams stats. He goes,
Speaker 1: I present you these stats so you can hold on
Speaker 1: your continued hating on Williams. He says the guy may
Speaker 1: break the Bears all time yards passing for a season
Speaker 1: with his backup offensive coordinator, head coaching, he is very special.
Speaker 1: He's not very happy with Merril Hodge's assessment of him,
Speaker 1: and he's not very happy with me. And I said,
Speaker 1: I don't hate Williams, says no, I said hating on Williams.
Speaker 1: I feel like you guys dump on him while the
Speaker 1: dude has been stellar in a dumpster fire of a situation.
Speaker 1: Point well taken. I do think the interesting question here, Joe,
Speaker 1: is if you got to redraft this rookie class of quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: now having fifteen games in hindsight, would you draft them
Speaker 1: the same way? Rich Eisen's show did this last week?
Speaker 1: And you know, the conclusion they came to was that
Speaker 1: the Bear given the same draft order, that the Bears
Speaker 1: would still draft Caleb one. And as a Washington fan,
Speaker 1: I was like, go, I'll take Jade to two again,
Speaker 1: thank you very much. But that was their conclusion was
Speaker 1: the Bears would still take Caleb at one, and Washington
Speaker 1: then would just obviously take Jayden at two. I think
Speaker 1: if you if you ranked them based on performance and
Speaker 1: obviously given the I get what you're saying, Joe about
Speaker 1: Caleb's surrounding his supporting cast. If you will the offensive
Speaker 1: line being the biggest of those, the the not stellar
Speaker 1: offensive line. I still think based on performance, you'd go
Speaker 1: in a very one one two, A two B two
Speaker 1: C kind of way. Jaden one.
Speaker 4: I would take Jaden one.
Speaker 1: I think you have to say Bo Nicks had the
Speaker 1: second best season of anybody.
Speaker 4: His growth from the first five weeks absolutely now has unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Now do you draft him second? If the task is
Speaker 1: you are still starting a team from scratch, do you
Speaker 1: still believe that that translates to him being the better
Speaker 1: quarterback than Caleb over time? That's a different story. But
Speaker 1: I think based on performance, Bo would have to be
Speaker 1: to Drake May would probably have to be three like they.
Speaker 1: As Aaron Shott said as a Patriots fan, we got
Speaker 1: the right guy, that's what he believes. And Caleb. It's
Speaker 1: the only thing about Caleb braced on those other guys
Speaker 1: is he's just a little more of a wild card
Speaker 1: than the other three guys.
Speaker 4: I think Caleb's biggest thing that's holding him back. Obviously,
Speaker 4: you got to have a good offensive line if you're
Speaker 4: running around like crazy. But when he does get time,
Speaker 4: Caleb holds onto the ball way too long, too way
Speaker 4: too long, and I was watching the Seahawks game yesterday,
Speaker 4: Gino Smith was taking a lot of unnecessary hits. I
Speaker 4: think that's another thing with Caleb, like protect your body,
Speaker 4: if you don't have anybody open, throw it away, don't
Speaker 4: take those big hits.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But the point also made here was like if
Speaker 1: the situation was reversed, Joe was saying that the outcomes
Speaker 1: would be reversed also, and I disagree with that wholeheartedly.
Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels is Jayden Nails, doesn't hold onto the ball
Speaker 1: like Caleb does. He is calm under any situation. Caleb
Speaker 1: was throwing a tantrum when they kicked that ridiculous field
Speaker 1: goal later in the game yester day. I just think
Speaker 1: they're different guys also, and I don't think that the
Speaker 1: results would be the same. There's no way we can
Speaker 1: prove that, but I think it's an interesting thought exercise.
Speaker 1: What is next? Aer On Criss?
Speaker 4: On Christmas Day? We have at four thirty pm Eastern time,
Speaker 4: the Ravens taken on the Texans.
Speaker 1: All right, as we said, just an opponent swap is
Speaker 1: what this is from this past Saturday. So now Baltimore
Speaker 1: is at Houston. Lamar fifteen of twenty three for two
Speaker 1: oh seven, three touchdowns, one pick. He was sacked once
Speaker 1: to that game. Derrek Henry twenty four for one to
Speaker 1: sixty Twesday five for one hundred. In Baltimore's win over Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: we're again Mike Tomlin literally punting on the game for
Speaker 1: the second straight week. And then Houston now without Tank
Speaker 1: Dell again with a displaced knee cap on that touchdown
Speaker 1: for Houston that brought the game to seventeen sixteen. I'll
Speaker 1: say Baltimore minus three and a.
Speaker 4: Half pretty close. You've got Baltimore minus four on DraftKings.
Speaker 4: That's probably better. Next, this is all we go to.
Speaker 4: Now we go to Friday. This is where we get hit
Speaker 4: the drink for interesting for survivor or Thursday. Thursday. I
Speaker 4: was gonna say, yeah, I don't think we have a
Speaker 4: Friday games.
Speaker 1: I was thinking Christmas was Durday, Christmas Wednesday.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so on Thursday, kind of back to the normal
Speaker 4: NFL slate. The Seattle Seahawks in the desperate need of
Speaker 4: a win, traveling on the road to take on the Bears.
Speaker 1: Seattle is in a dicey situation looking up at the
Speaker 1: Rams in the NFC West they have got to get
Speaker 1: help here, but they've got to do their part as well.
Speaker 1: They got to beat the Bears, the Bears who have
Speaker 1: lost nine straight football games. Seattle loses to Minnesota yesterday.
Speaker 1: Minnesota struck first eight plays six Well, this is a
Speaker 1: seven to seven game, I should say at this point.
Speaker 1: Minnesota eight play sixty seven yards Darnold Jefferson from fourteen
Speaker 1: out fourteen to seven Minnesota. With five to fifty left
Speaker 1: in the second, Seattle then first play, ensuing drive first
Speaker 1: and ten on thirty Geno pick by Dallas Turner. Minnesota
Speaker 1: set up at the Seattle thirty one had to settle
Speaker 1: for a record fifty two yard field goll seventeen seven Minnesota.
Speaker 1: Seattle would add a drive late in the half five
Speaker 1: plays eighty eight yards to DK from twenty to twelve
Speaker 1: to start it, then to Jackson Smith and Jigba thirteen
Speaker 1: twenty five and eighteen into the end zone to end
Speaker 1: the drive. Seventeen fourteen Minnesota. At the half, it would
Speaker 1: get to seventeen seventeen. Right here, it would kick a
Speaker 1: field goal to put the Vikings up twenty to seventeen
Speaker 1: and would seemingly be that score for most of the
Speaker 1: second half twenty to seventeen vikings. Seattle then takes the
Speaker 1: lead on an eleven play sixty eight yard drive Geno
Speaker 1: two Gardner on third and goal from the four, twenty
Speaker 1: four to twenty Seattle with four to twenty one left
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. But as Minnesota has done all year,
Speaker 1: and as Sam Darnald has done all year, just calm
Speaker 1: as could be four plays seventy yards. There were some
Speaker 1: flags involved there. Donald beautiful throw to Jefferson from thirty
Speaker 1: nine through two defenders, touchdown twenty seven to twenty four.
Speaker 1: Minnesota with three fifty one left, and then Seattle will
Speaker 1: get it into well, I won't really call it field
Speaker 1: goal range. They try a Meyers sixty yard field goal attempt,
Speaker 1: well short. Minnesota would take over with one fifty five left,
Speaker 1: Seattle still with two timeouts, they forced a three and out.
Speaker 1: Seattle took over again at their own seventeen with fifty
Speaker 1: five seconds left, no timeouts, needing a field goal to tie.
Speaker 1: First nap from scrimmage Gino picked by Theo Jackson Katie
Speaker 1: bar the door. DK kind of stopped a metcalf on
Speaker 1: the route. He just sort of like let up and
Speaker 1: so Gino's like, what are you doing? Gino was made
Speaker 1: to look bad on the play. Gino threw for three
Speaker 1: hundred fourteen yards in defeat. But it is Seattle that
Speaker 1: and Seattle gets the loss there. Minnesota goes on, We'll
Speaker 1: get to Minnesota coming up, but Seattle's at Chicago here
Speaker 1: on Thursday. Chicago loses to Detroit in a game that
Speaker 1: was twenty to nothing before you could really blink twenty
Speaker 1: to nothing. Detroit they got into twenty nothing on a
Speaker 1: beautiful golf to Jamison Jameson Williams eighty two yard touchdown
Speaker 1: twenty to nothing. The Bears would cut it to twenty
Speaker 1: seven to fourteen by the half. Caleb was really that
Speaker 1: passed The pass that cut it to twenty seven to
Speaker 1: fourteen to Keenan Allen for forty five to the house
Speaker 1: was just beautiful from Caleb Williams. The play of the
Speaker 1: game that people are talking about. Twenty seven to fourteen.
Speaker 1: In the third quarter, Detroit five play seventy nine yard
Speaker 1: touchdown drive Golf de Laporter for twenty one on a
Speaker 1: play where Goff acted like he fumbled, so he stumbled
Speaker 1: after the snap. Gibbs Jamir Gibbs fell to the turf
Speaker 1: as well in the backfield, as if he was trying
Speaker 1: to recover the fubble. Whatever. That was enough for reporter
Speaker 1: again lose thirty four to fourteen to Detroit would go
Speaker 1: on to win it by the final score of thirty
Speaker 1: four to seventeen. So Detroit and Minnesota, we'll get to them.
Speaker 1: They both win, Philadelphia loses. That has number one seed
Speaker 1: implications in the NFC. But as far as this game
Speaker 1: Seattle at Chicago, which a lot of these survivors remember
Speaker 1: at Circa, depending on who you have left, you might
Speaker 1: have to make a choice here, or maybe may I
Speaker 1: suggest you're making a clever game theory choice here to
Speaker 1: try to get on an island. I'll say Seattle minus three.
Speaker 1: That was my guest last night was three.
Speaker 4: Got bumped up here just a moment ago on DK
Speaker 4: Seahawks minus three and a half.
Speaker 1: And I think I saw four here at Circa right
Speaker 1: behind us as on my way in. But I'm staying
Speaker 1: true to my guests here Seattle minus three. Geez, does
Speaker 1: that make me want to jump on to jump on
Speaker 1: the Bears? It does not, not e racing to bet
Speaker 1: than plus four. But this is like, would I be shocked.
Speaker 1: If the Bears won this game national stage standalone, they've
Speaker 1: lost nine in a row. Seattle's in that must win
Speaker 1: situation where with Doctor Bob says, if you're in a
Speaker 1: must win situation, you must not be that good. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Interesting game so far like Kansas City so
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Speaker 1: Vegas five to one, four yo. Our beloved Washington team
Speaker 1: won down fourteen and had five turnovers. We're the fourth
Speaker 1: team in the last twenty years to win straight up.
Speaker 1: I love his use of we. Also, we should be
Speaker 1: coming back home to DC in the near future. Two
Speaker 1: great early Christmas gifts. Thanks betting Santa. It was all
Speaker 1: over the place there. I'm not sure I understood every
Speaker 1: part of that New York Mes sixteen. Glad I listened
Speaker 1: to Ang and jumped on Lamar at eleven to one
Speaker 1: to cover my probable laws losers on Saquon and Daniels
Speaker 1: both at one hundred to one. I guess he means
Speaker 1: for MVP. Saquon could have really put his stamp on
Speaker 1: the race yesterday with one hundred rushing yards in the
Speaker 1: first quarter. He did nothing after that. Thanks gil uh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Saquon yesterday one hundred and nine rushing yards and two
Speaker 1: touchdowns of the first quarter and then once Jalen Hurts
Speaker 1: went out, Kenny Pickett came in. That was kind of
Speaker 1: the end of that.
Speaker 4: My fantasy team I was. I was looking my chops.
Speaker 4: I thought I was going to make it to the
Speaker 4: championship game because I was going up against Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 4: Fortunately I had Brian Robinson bumble twice twice.
Speaker 1: Early Mariner's geek. One Chiefs win, one Bill's loss is
Speaker 1: a magic number of two. Correct, it is, except that's
Speaker 1: not what I said. It's one Bill's one Chiefs win
Speaker 1: or one Bill's loss, so it is a magic number
Speaker 1: of one. Remember, the Chiefs are two games ahead of
Speaker 1: the Bills in the lost column with two games left,
Speaker 1: so it is a magic number of one. Sir Matt
Speaker 1: Trudell watching numbers game and Gil didn't one of the
Speaker 1: circus survivors with two entries put both on the Cardinals. Yes,
Speaker 1: you are correct, I was incorrect. Actually, it is forty
Speaker 1: five entries left, forty four humans, so one person still
Speaker 1: does have more than one entry. But yes, one person.
Speaker 1: I believe it was wise guys, NFL. Wise guys put
Speaker 1: two on the Cardinals and there goes that. All right,
Speaker 1: we get to Sunday. Now for week seventeen.
Speaker 4: Actually, no, we're on Saturday, Saturday. Yes, Oh, I love it.
Speaker 1: We're all over the so great.
Speaker 4: We've got football throughout the entirety of the week.
Speaker 1: Fantastic. And yet we have to wait for the college
Speaker 1: quarterfinals still beyond that now till in middle of next week.
Speaker 4: Yes, hopefully, hopefully the game's a little bit better.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's hope.
Speaker 4: So, let's hope. So first game on Saturday, one pm
Speaker 4: Eastern Time, Chargers on the road, taking on the Patriots.
Speaker 1: Chargers beat the Broncos on the Thursday. We don't need
Speaker 1: to go over that again. Chargers are nine and six,
Speaker 1: Broncos are nine and six. They both inhabit the last
Speaker 1: two AFC playoff positions currently, the Broncos are the one
Speaker 1: that has sort of the tougher schedule, and the Broncos
Speaker 1: are not feeling very comfortable with a few teams three
Speaker 1: teams Miami, Indianapolis and Cincinnati two games behind them. They
Speaker 1: don't want to lose their last two obviously, both the
Speaker 1: Broncos and Chargers magic number once again in this case
Speaker 1: is one, respectively. Chargers at the Patriots here, So the
Speaker 1: Chargers at the Patriots, who played the Bills very well yesterday.
Speaker 1: They led this game fourteen to nothing on a six
Speaker 1: play fifty eight yard drive. May To made a boutet
Speaker 1: from twenty eight out Kishan Bute and then their next
Speaker 1: drive after a Buffalo punt, sixteen plays ninety one yards
Speaker 1: Romandre in from fourteen fourteen to nothing Patriots. Then the
Speaker 1: Bills started doing it, cook in from forty six fourteen
Speaker 1: to seven. That would be the score at the half.
Speaker 1: Third quarter, Buffalo nine plays at sixty eight yards Allen
Speaker 1: to cook from four out. We're tied at fourteen New England.
Speaker 1: Then second play ensuing driver Mandre for two yards hit
Speaker 1: by Greg Russo, fumbles, Dorian Williams recovers that led to
Speaker 1: a Bass fifty yard field goal. Buffalo took their first
Speaker 1: lead at seventeen fourteen with six poh two left in
Speaker 1: the third quarter. Then New England matriculated first and ten
Speaker 1: at the Buffalo sixteen may picked in the end zone
Speaker 1: by cam lewis Man. That all sort of thoughts of
Speaker 1: an upset there kind of went. I don't know if
Speaker 1: they completely went out the window with that, but you
Speaker 1: sort of felt like it wasn't gonna happen at that
Speaker 1: point but Buffalo then had to punt as Allen was
Speaker 1: shaken out his throwing hand in this let's talking about
Speaker 1: another guy that is Teflon always seems to recover from
Speaker 1: whatever injury has New England and second in eight at
Speaker 1: their own twelve may laterals can't make the connection. Taron
Speaker 1: Johnson recovers it in the end zone twenty four to
Speaker 1: fourteen Buffalo at ten's in left in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1: That was the point where the any thoughts of an
Speaker 1: upset sort of were extinguished, where it was like this
Speaker 1: sort of lazy pass backwards that ends up being a
Speaker 1: lateral in a fumble. New England after punting at their
Speaker 1: punting fourth and six at their own forty five with
Speaker 1: eight thirty three left down ten, are you tanking? What
Speaker 1: are you doing? I think we know the answer Buffalo. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not suggesting that Buffalo punts, then Travis and then
Speaker 1: New England gets it back. And now New England with
Speaker 1: a ten point deficit with fewer time, with less time, well,
Speaker 1: they can matriculate the ball down the field. Thirteen play
Speaker 1: seventy five yards. They ran tens. They had ten snaps
Speaker 1: inside the ten yard line before they punched this in
Speaker 1: they had two different first and goal at the one setups,
Speaker 1: and they finally scored on a nine yard touchdown pass
Speaker 1: to the hunter Henry from Night down again twenty four
Speaker 1: to twenty one. Buffalo they had to declare, we had
Speaker 1: to declare their own side kick that failed, but New
Speaker 1: England did have three timeouts left. Didn't matter. Buffalo ran
Speaker 1: out the clock. Buffalo wins it twenty seven. Excuse me,
Speaker 1: twenty four to twenty one, and once again, Josh Allen
Speaker 1: pedestrian numbers in this ball game, I will say in
Speaker 1: the Chargers at New England contest, Chargers minus four and
Speaker 1: a half. Close.
Speaker 4: We've got Chargers right now up at DK at minus five.
Speaker 4: Let's do another next one here still on Saturday, four
Speaker 4: thirty pm Eastern time, the Broncos taking on the Bengals.
Speaker 1: Okay, so this gets back to what I was just
Speaker 1: saying moments ago. This is a big football game because
Speaker 1: Denver's nine and six are the Chargers. Chargers schedules a
Speaker 1: lot easier though than Denver's down the stretch. Denver's got
Speaker 1: I believe they got Kansas City Week eighteen, so.
Speaker 4: Which they're rooting for Kansas City to clinch that's right.
Speaker 4: So there's tons of implications here Kansas they're rooting. That's
Speaker 4: exactly right. Denver's rooting for Kansas City to clinch the
Speaker 4: number one seed so that Kansas City would not be
Speaker 4: incentivized to play them week eighteen in the event that
Speaker 4: Denver loses to Cincinnat here, Cincinnati the proverbial team no
Speaker 4: one wants to play.
Speaker 1: Everybody's saying that Cincinnati, because of Burrow and the offense
Speaker 1: of the team, nobody wants to play. Really, they're not
Speaker 1: that scary. Beyond that, they're really not. Their defense is horrible.
Speaker 1: Denver at Cincinnati. I'll still make Cincinnati a favorite here
Speaker 1: Denver again Thursday night. Let's just remember when they lost
Speaker 1: to the Chargers that Sean Payton had a lot to
Speaker 1: do with this, because after running on second and twenty,
Speaker 1: remember fourth and six at their own forty nine, with
Speaker 1: four thirty five left, down three, they punted. So that
Speaker 1: was just a horrible sequence for Peyton in that game.
Speaker 1: Cleveland loses suit me. Cincinnati beats Cleveland yesterday in a
Speaker 1: game that you know, they were really blowing Cleveland off
Speaker 1: the field. It was seven to nothing halfway through the
Speaker 1: first quarter on a play where Joe Burrow was falling
Speaker 1: to the turf unbelieva is unbelievable. With a naked eye,
Speaker 1: it looks like there's no way he's completely down. And
Speaker 1: the more you watch the replat like, come on, it's
Speaker 1: obvious he's down before he got rid of the ball.
Speaker 1: He's falling forward. Optical illusion. And you know how they
Speaker 1: determined it. They took it frame by frameman is what
Speaker 1: they did. And that's a touchdown. Touchdown falling down to
Speaker 1: Higgins from two out. Amazing play from Burrow. Again, if
Speaker 1: they were any good, maybe he's in the MVP conversation
Speaker 1: as is, he'll probably be comeback Player of the Year.
Speaker 1: Seven to nothing, Cincinnati, and it was that score till
Speaker 1: really it was that score till well, it was seventeen
Speaker 1: by the end of the first half. It did get
Speaker 1: to fourteen to nothing and then seventeen to nothing Cleveland
Speaker 1: first drive of the third quarter, they went seventy yards
Speaker 1: for it in from four. Hopkins misses the extra point though,
Speaker 1: seventeen to six because Cleveland is not allowed to have
Speaker 1: good things for any period of time, so they missed
Speaker 1: the extra point seventeen to six. Next time they had
Speaker 1: the ball. They really needed to know Cleveland's possessions the
Speaker 1: rest of the way to tell the story of this game.
Speaker 1: Third and seven at the Cincinnati eight, DTR under pressure
Speaker 1: just throws it into the end zone right to a
Speaker 1: wide open Jordan Battles. Jordan Battle plays for cincinnat and
Speaker 1: next time Cleveland had the ball. Third and six at
Speaker 1: their own forty one, DTR picked off a deflection by
Speaker 1: Geno Stone. And then the thing about this was it
Speaker 1: was at this point it was seventeen to six, seventeen
Speaker 1: to six? Do I have that score right? Burrow? Cincinnati
Speaker 1: had third and goald to Cleveland. One Borough got sacked
Speaker 1: and he fumbled. It was recovered by Juwan Briggs. So
Speaker 1: Cleveland had the ball. They couldn't win this game, but
Speaker 1: they had the back door open in terms of the
Speaker 1: spread because it's only seventeen to six at this point.
Speaker 1: But once again, fourth and eight was it fourth and
Speaker 1: eight for their own forty one. DTR makes this great play,
Speaker 1: whirling Dervish. I don't know how he completed it, passed
Speaker 1: in Nadjoku for the first down, but eventually they stalled
Speaker 1: on downs and then Cincinnati on a second and six
Speaker 1: at their own excuse me. At the Cleveland thirty two
Speaker 1: Cleveland jumps off side Cincinnati is a free play in
Speaker 1: Burrow just heaves it to Chase. Why not? Twenty four
Speaker 1: to six touchdown? And that was that Burrow two hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty yards, three touchdown performance for the seventh straight game.
Speaker 1: No one has ever done that ever before. Were in
Speaker 1: life so good? I'll say Cincinnati by two and a
Speaker 1: half at home over Denver. Close.
Speaker 4: Here, we've got Cincinnati minus three. They gave him the
Speaker 4: full three full three here on DraftKings.
Speaker 1: Again, this is a big There are so many ways
Speaker 1: this could The NFC is not quite as interesting, although
Speaker 1: there's obviously some things that could happen there. But the AFC,
Speaker 1: between the number one seed and the fact that Denver
Speaker 1: has this at Cincinnati home, Kansas City, you know, way
Speaker 1: to finish the season in terms of their schedule, Yes,
Speaker 1: they are absolutely rooting for Kansas City to beat Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: on Christmas. Denver and the Chargers again, both of their
Speaker 1: magic numbers are one.
Speaker 4: Though it was such a gut punch loss for the
Speaker 4: for the Broncos. Halfway through that game on Thursday, I
Speaker 4: was like, man, this is a whole different team. They
Speaker 4: might be a legitimate threat in the in the playoffs,
Speaker 4: and it's just what a collapse. Give credits Jim Harbaugh, Michigan, Guy,
Speaker 4: where did you go to school again? UNLV? That Michigan
Speaker 4: curious so far?
Speaker 1: I think like Kansas City, the best serves the numbers.
Speaker 1: We'll get to more of these games, get to Sunday. Finally,
Speaker 1: we're guessing lines Week seventeen in the National Football League.
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Speaker 1: Why Tom check in for Kelly Bildin? That's your full name?
Speaker 1: Why Tom check in for Kelly Bidlin? I like it.
Speaker 4: We split it. We'll put it on the birth certificate.
Speaker 4: By the way, By the way, talking about the vson app,
Speaker 4: isn't that where you found Will Hill talking about the
Speaker 4: Aaron Judge MVV.
Speaker 1: That is correct. We were That is exactly right. That
Speaker 1: is a good example. Will Hill gave out Aaron Judge
Speaker 1: to win American League MVP at sixteen to one. We
Speaker 1: were able to pinpoint the date he I think he
Speaker 1: was like May fifteenth. So went to the vson watch app.
Speaker 1: Easily found May fifteenth numbers game. All I had to
Speaker 1: do is determine if it was our number one or
Speaker 1: number two. Bam grabbed the clip. There's Will Hill given
Speaker 1: out his pick.
Speaker 4: Also, I didn't know if like Kelly had a certain line,
Speaker 4: like you know how he was like nine to ninety
Speaker 4: nine or split in bets.
Speaker 1: Oh look at me.
Speaker 4: I was like, oh no, does Kelly have a certain line?
Speaker 4: I was that given?
Speaker 1: Speaking of that line, Speaking of Kelly and Jesse, Welcha
Speaker 1: tweeted attention to anyone in the Florida area, Kelly Biddley
Speaker 1: is flying down there, so there will be a hurricane
Speaker 1: kicking up real soon, because Kelly has his history of
Speaker 1: fly into like in clement, like not only in clement weather,
Speaker 1: but like really bad weather events. And Kelly tweets back.
Speaker 1: He says, Man, I'm just sitting by the pool right now,
Speaker 1: perfect weather, listening to some guessing lines. Don't mess it up,
Speaker 1: tom check, he says in capitals.
Speaker 4: And he spelled my last name right, So Kelly, I
Speaker 4: appreciate you.
Speaker 1: He did t for three by the way, also chimes
Speaker 1: and he goes opp the last Well, that's not that simple.
Speaker 4: Did you catch that?
Speaker 1: I was in opp? See? I knew you wouldn't I
Speaker 1: know this. When I was explaining that Joe Burrow, how
Speaker 1: they how they figured out that Joe Burrow's touchdown was
Speaker 1: was legal? I said, how do you explain it? They
Speaker 1: took it framed by Framan. No, okay, all right, next game, Kelly,
Speaker 1: next game, not Kelly? Whyatt?
Speaker 4: Sorryry Tom check in for Biddlin. I was born in
Speaker 4: ninety four, so my apologies on that one. We ended
Speaker 4: on the Broncos Bengals. So next game, final game on Saturday,
Speaker 4: eight fifteen pm Eastern Time, Cardinals at the Ram.
Speaker 1: We're still on Saturday. Wow, the seven and eight Cardinals
Speaker 1: who have been eliminated, and they eliminated four survivors in
Speaker 1: the process. They lose to the Panthers taking on the Rams,
Speaker 1: who sit atop the NFC West right now with a
Speaker 1: nine in six record. Arizona loses to Carolina. It was
Speaker 1: thirteen to three Carolina early Arizona second ten at their
Speaker 1: own thirty one. Kyler fumbled the exchange with Michael Carter.
Speaker 1: Jonathan Harris recovered. Carolina is set up at the Arizona
Speaker 1: thirty four plays, Bryce the feeling from eight out twenty
Speaker 1: to three. Panthers. Halfway through the second quarter, they were
Speaker 1: just rolling, but Arizona had some life. They woke up
Speaker 1: four plays seventy yards. Kyler to Connor for thirty six.
Speaker 1: Sets up Connor in from six twenty to ten, and
Speaker 1: then after a three and out Arizona sixty eight yards
Speaker 1: Kylo to DJ Dallas from one out twenty to seventeen
Speaker 1: Panthers at the half. Surely the Cardinals will win this,
Speaker 1: but Bryce Young had other ideas. Carolina a few drives
Speaker 1: into the second half six places, fifty eight yards Bryce
Speaker 1: to David Moore from eighteen out, thirty to twenty with
Speaker 1: twelve oh four left in the fourth quarter. Arizona then
Speaker 1: seventy yards Kyler in from twenty thirty to twenty seven
Speaker 1: with six fifty six left in this one. After at
Speaker 1: Carolina three and out, Arizona third and eleven at the
Speaker 1: Arizona four at the Arizona pardon me, Arizona third and
Speaker 1: eleven at the Carolina forty nine, Kyler, perhaps thinking he's
Speaker 1: over the line of scribbage, sort of heaves it. Part
Speaker 1: of his body wasn't though, picked by Demadi Richardson, and
Speaker 1: with three ten left in the fourth quarter, it looked
Speaker 1: like Arizona might be cooked, but they did have all
Speaker 1: three timeouts left. They were able to force a punt
Speaker 1: when Bryce just missed a wide open Dancha Zenna on
Speaker 1: third and three from their own forty nine so Arizona
Speaker 1: took over on their own thirty five with one forty
Speaker 1: seven left one time out. They needed a field goal
Speaker 1: to tie, and with two seconds left, Chad Ryland from
Speaker 1: fifty eight good oh Man to tie the game. They
Speaker 1: go to overtime. Carolina wins the toss. It's over right, Nope,
Speaker 1: three and out. Arizona backed up at their own ten,
Speaker 1: fourth and one at their own nineteen. They correctly, by
Speaker 1: the way, I liked that they went for it. They
Speaker 1: got it didn't matter though, because they still had to punt,
Speaker 1: and Carolina took over with from their own forty nine
Speaker 1: with four to eleven left. In ot two plays Chewba
Speaker 1: Hubbard for twenty eight field goal range. Already no matter.
Speaker 1: Cuba from twenty one touchdown thirty six thirty. As I said, four,
Speaker 1: Arizona Survivor's gone, Arizona eliminated from playoff contention. And then
Speaker 1: there's the Rams Jets game. Did you see any of this?
Speaker 1: This was threatening to be the quickest football game you've
Speaker 1: ever seen in your life, and by the way, maybe
Speaker 1: thank God for that, because it wasn't very good.
Speaker 4: Well Puka Nikoua in fantasy, so I was I was
Speaker 4: hoping that Matthew Stafford threw for more than one hundred
Speaker 4: and ten yards. Yeah, at least he threw half of
Speaker 4: them to Pooka, but it was still very.
Speaker 1: One one hundred and ten yards passing for Matthew Stafford
Speaker 1: and the Rams still win it. This is a game
Speaker 1: where the Jets first drive a fourteen play ninety nine
Speaker 1: yard drive Rogers Davante from eleven out, six to nothing.
Speaker 1: Jets Anders Carlson missed the second, missed the extra point.
Speaker 1: After that, that was a Rams punt, followed by a Jets
Speaker 1: fourteen play ninety nine yard drive that was the entire
Speaker 1: first quarter. There were twenty three seconds left in the
Speaker 1: first quarter six to nothing. Then the Rams second and
Speaker 1: fifteen to their own forty nine, Stafford picked by Tony Adams,
Speaker 1: which brought the Jets to a fourth and one at
Speaker 1: their own thirty three. The ensuing drive brea stuffed by
Speaker 1: Omar Spates that leads to a short field Rams set
Speaker 1: up at the thirty three to three plays kyroon in
Speaker 1: from two. Joshua Cardy misses the extra point, six to six.
Speaker 1: There's six twenty two left in the second quarter. The Jets,
Speaker 1: with another fourth down fourth and three at the Rams
Speaker 1: thirty four. Rogers to Lazard for eleven, but they still
Speaker 1: have to settle for Carlson twenty one yard fildal nine
Speaker 1: to six Jets at the half. There was a grand
Speaker 1: total of six drives in the first half of this
Speaker 1: football game. Third quarter, same story. Jets started their own
Speaker 1: twenty nine. They end up with a turnover on downs
Speaker 1: on fourth and fourth the Rams thirteen. There was five
Speaker 1: point fifteen left in the third quarter. This game's third
Speaker 1: quarter ended before the Washington third quarter began, I believe,
Speaker 1: and they started at the same time. Cardy thirty eight
Speaker 1: yard field goal would tie it up at nine apiece
Speaker 1: when the Jets. After the Jets failed on that fourth
Speaker 1: down conversion, the ensuing drive made it nine to nine,
Speaker 1: twelve forty four left in the fourth quarter this point.
Speaker 1: Then they started playing some more brisk football. Jets third
Speaker 1: and seven at their own thirty one Rogers sacked by
Speaker 1: car By Curl fumbles, Jared Verse recovers, Rams set up
Speaker 1: at the Jets twenty one three play Stafford to Higbee, Higbee?
Speaker 1: What year is this? From eleven out sixteen to nine Rams.
Speaker 1: Then the Jets fourth and fourth their own thirty seven,
Speaker 1: they decide to go for it, down seven Rogers incomplete
Speaker 1: intended for Tyler Conklin. Rams get a field goal out
Speaker 1: of that, nineteen to nine. Then Carlson misses a forty
Speaker 1: nine yardfield goal. They're down two scores. The Jets were
Speaker 1: the forty nine yard field goal try one of those
Speaker 1: placekicks where the moment the ball went off his toe,
Speaker 1: he was like, there's no chance. It makes it like
Speaker 1: it was so wide right from the beginning. You just
Speaker 1: hear the crowd. Sometimes the crowd will just tell you away,
Speaker 1: not even close. Rams take over one fifty seven left
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter of three and out, but Xavier
Speaker 1: Gibson muffs the punt. Jordan Winnington recovers, that's your ball game.
Speaker 1: That's such a Jets, such a Jets. Wait then jeffls
Speaker 1: his Twitter on whenever the Jets play is just calmic.
Speaker 1: It was brutal. Aaron Rodgers such a nice guy though,
Speaker 1: kidding by the way, you see how I was killing
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers last year with the whole Achilles nonsense, like
Speaker 1: he could come back and out. Everybody's murdering Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: Finally it's like, oh you finally figured out he's a
Speaker 1: great guy. Rams by four and a half hosting Arizona.
Speaker 4: Right now we have Rams minus six on DK.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I have to get in the mode
Speaker 1: where it's like people have nothing to play for anymore,
Speaker 1: so the lines are going to reflect that. I guess.
Speaker 4: Yeah. What a tough loss there for the Cardinals. Did
Speaker 4: you see though, at the end of the game, like
Speaker 4: how the clock started to wind down like the Cardinals
Speaker 4: only got the Yes, if you saw the official did
Speaker 4: this to signal that the clock was stopped, and then
Speaker 4: he wound it like he screwed up.
Speaker 1: Well, for some reason the game clock went to zero,
Speaker 1: but they clearly had called time out.
Speaker 4: I don't think that was Yeah, well, I think the
Speaker 4: Cardinals why they went so slow was the official initially said, Hey, yeah,
Speaker 4: Kyler got out of bounds. You know, clock is stopped.
Speaker 1: Let's see if we can't squeeze a couple in here.
Speaker 4: What do we got now? Alrighty, after the Cardinals, Rams,
Speaker 4: We've got this is Sunday, one pm Eastern time, Jets
Speaker 4: at the Bills.
Speaker 1: Wow. I love that. Tons of games before Sunday, even
Speaker 1: Jets four and eleven long gone at Buffalo twelve and three.
Speaker 1: Buffalo has won the AFCs, but again still with a
Speaker 1: shot at the number one seed. The Chiefs would have
Speaker 1: to lose twice. The Bills would have to win twice.
Speaker 1: Good luck with that. Allen in a victory yesterday, sixteen
Speaker 1: of twenty nine for one fifty four, six carries for
Speaker 1: thirty yards, Cook eleven for one hundred on the ground
Speaker 1: and a touchdown. Bills were plus two and turnovers against
Speaker 1: the Patriots, but thirteen penalties for seventy eight yards for
Speaker 1: the Bills. I'll say the Bills minus ten and a
Speaker 1: half hosting the Jets.
Speaker 4: A little bit heavy on that. We've got the Bills
Speaker 4: minus nine and a half. Okay, next and after that one,
Speaker 4: we've got the game of the week, and I'll bias here.
Speaker 4: One pm Eastern time, Packers at the Vikings.
Speaker 1: Packers played a night against the Saints. Their two touchdown favorites.
Speaker 1: The Packers are ten and four, but remember, because they're
Speaker 1: zero and three combined against the Lions and the Vikings
Speaker 1: at this point, they're probably a wildcard team. That's kind
Speaker 1: of where they're going to be locked in. So they're
Speaker 1: at Minnesota. Minnesota now thirteen and two with the Eagles loss,
Speaker 1: Minnesota and Detroit could be headed to a Week eighteen
Speaker 1: collision course for not only the NFC North but also
Speaker 1: the number one seed winner take all. I will say Minnesota.
Speaker 1: By the way, Jefferson yesterday ten for one forty four
Speaker 1: and two touchdowns. He's pretty good at football. I'll say
Speaker 1: Minnesota minus two and a half.
Speaker 4: I dare you. We've got Vikings minus one and a
Speaker 4: half on DK all.
Speaker 1: Right, at the point being probably a tick less than
Speaker 1: the three. Okay, again, of all, you know the point
Speaker 1: of this extract. You're trying to get some bets out
Speaker 1: of this. I still think Kansas City might be my
Speaker 1: only one. And even that is sort of like, it's
Speaker 1: not like my favorite bet in the world. It's just
Speaker 1: sort of like, oh, there's a little slight edge. I'll
Speaker 1: take that.
Speaker 4: Do want to bet the Packers for me when in
Speaker 4: this game? No? Yeah, this game not tonight.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it's right around where it should
Speaker 1: they all right, all right for Sunday Week seventeen, National
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Speaker 4: Way, joined some some great family time. Apparently's at the
Speaker 4: pool right now.
Speaker 1: Apparently he's at the pool, because that's what one does
Speaker 1: at eleven am on a Monday when you're on vacation
Speaker 1: in Florida. Why wouldn't you be.
Speaker 4: I don't think anybody could be at the pool here
Speaker 4: in Vegas for maybe a couple more now this time
Speaker 4: of year.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get to some more value. So find some.
Speaker 4: Well, let's see next game here with Sunday one pm
Speaker 4: Eastern time, Raiders at the same.
Speaker 1: All right, I refuse to go through the Raiders Jaguars game.
Speaker 1: I refuse. The Raiders beat the Jaguars, and so by
Speaker 1: virtue of that New York Giants, you're on the clock.
Speaker 1: Raiders go to three and twelve. They're going to be
Speaker 1: at the Saints, who are five and nine. Remember the
Speaker 1: Saints are two touchdown dogs to the Packers tonight. The
Speaker 1: only thing I will say about that Raiders Jaguars game
Speaker 1: that it came down to it was fourteen thirteen. Oh,
Speaker 1: excuse me, it was at fourteen thirteen Jaguars. Then the
Speaker 1: Raiders got the go ahead nineteen fourteen Jacksonville's final possession
Speaker 1: down five a turnover on downs when to Ernest Johnson
Speaker 1: from our Atlanta studios, will stop short of the sticks.
Speaker 1: That's all I wanted to say. Anyway, if you're Antonio Pierce,
Speaker 1: what are you doing? Why'd you win? Anyway? So come
Speaker 1: to with all the all that matter. By the way,
Speaker 1: I'll say New Orleans minus three hosting the Raiders.
Speaker 4: Right now, we've got Saints minus two.
Speaker 1: All right, that makes sense. Here's the thing the Giants
Speaker 1: now again, if they lose out, they will have the
Speaker 1: number one pick in the draft. Dion Sanders and Shador
Speaker 1: Sanders publicly saying oh no, we'll play anywhere. Want to
Speaker 1: play anywhere, though the rumblings behind the scenes or that
Speaker 1: he only wants to play for the Cowboys or the Raiders.
Speaker 4: Well, cowboys ain't happening.
Speaker 1: Well, right, cowboys ain't happen anymore. Cowboys are seven and eight,
Speaker 1: so okay, So he only wants to play for the Raiders.
Speaker 1: Maybe he wants to finagle that. However, there are some
Speaker 1: rumblings from some people in the know with the Giants
Speaker 1: that say that they actually like cam Ward better than
Speaker 1: they like Shador Sanders, So I kind of I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think it's all I think everybody's interests are going
Speaker 1: to be aligned, and I think maybe the Giants take
Speaker 1: cam Ward number one.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you're I guess if you're Shador,
Speaker 4: what would you rather be at the Giants or the Raiders?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 4: I mean both programs historically. I mean, somehow the Giants
Speaker 4: have won two Super Bowls this this century, but the
Speaker 4: Raiders have.
Speaker 1: Man it's still New York. Is still New York, though
Speaker 1: it is true you make it there, you can make
Speaker 1: it anywhere. Why Tom Jack, even though it's New Jersey.
Speaker 1: So I don't But it's the New York Giants and
Speaker 1: it's still the number one market in the country, and
Speaker 1: so there's nothing. I mean, look, Eli Manning finagled it
Speaker 1: so that he could play for the Giants, right. The
Speaker 1: notion that you would want to play for the Raiders
Speaker 1: organization over anybody is you might love Vegas, But what
Speaker 1: has the Raiders organization done too in any way make
Speaker 1: it a desirable place. Like if this organization was elsewhere,
Speaker 1: which is not obviously, but if it was elsewhere, you
Speaker 1: would never choose to play for the Raiders.
Speaker 4: Why Yeah, if they were back in Oakland, I don't think.
Speaker 4: I don't think Shore is going to be like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I want to play for the Raiders. I mean since
Speaker 4: they've come to Vegas. I mean, the biggest mistake that
Speaker 4: the Raiders made was they didn't hire Rich Pisacia as
Speaker 4: head coach. Didn't hire Pasacia the man went through two wildfires,
Speaker 4: yes of a season and they still made the playoffs.
Speaker 4: Didn't hire a Pisacia and then also hired Pierce because
Speaker 4: that's what Max Crosby and the players wanted. Was it
Speaker 4: was it DeVante wanted it to, which is then't's funny
Speaker 4: because then DeVante gets traded with four games in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say Crosby was probably wielding the most power,
Speaker 1: but yes, they I mean it's never, by the way,
Speaker 1: whenever you go with what the players want, it never
Speaker 1: works out. It rarely works out. Let's put it that way.
Speaker 1: So you said New Orleans was two, I said three,
Speaker 1: No problem there?
Speaker 4: Next after that one Sunday, one pm Eastern time. We've
Speaker 4: got the Colts against the Giants.
Speaker 1: Okay, so the Colts are seven and eight, but they're
Speaker 1: still in this if they you know, if the Broncos,
Speaker 1: let's use the Broncos. Obviously this supplies to the Chargers too.
Speaker 1: But if the Broncos lose to the Bengals and the
Speaker 1: Chiefs again, the Chiefs might not have anything to play
Speaker 1: for week eighteen. We'll see. But just play with me here.
Speaker 1: If the Broncos lose both of those games and the
Speaker 1: Chiefs win out ectually, me and the Colts win out.
Speaker 1: The Colts right now have the tiebreakers over the other
Speaker 1: two teams. They're tied with the Dolphins and the Bengals,
Speaker 1: so the Colts are still playing real football. This was
Speaker 1: a weird game they played with Tennessee yesterday. They spotted
Speaker 1: Tennessee as seven to nothing lead on a Rudolph to
Speaker 1: Ridley thirty eight yard touchdown pass, and then the Colts
Speaker 1: proceeded to score thirty eight consecutive points to go up
Speaker 1: thirty eight to seven. If you looked away, by the way,
Speaker 1: you're like, wow O, this game's over. By the way,
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor with a monster game after his dropped the
Speaker 1: ball before crossing the goal line performance the other week,
Speaker 1: and so.
Speaker 4: He definitely sent a bunch of people into the championships
Speaker 4: in fantasy.
Speaker 1: Oh for sure. Taylor twenty nine for two eighteen and
Speaker 1: three touchdowns in this ball game. By the way, the
Speaker 1: first touchdown he scored from sixty five out. Oh no,
Speaker 1: The first one was from yeah. The first one was
Speaker 1: from sixty five out. He ran the ball not only
Speaker 1: threw the goal line but into the tunnel a lave
Speaker 1: Bo Jackson. Later when he scored, he did the whole
Speaker 1: sprinters thing where he like when they flex their chest
Speaker 1: right as they get to the tape to try to
Speaker 1: beat their opponent. He did that. So his teammates were
Speaker 1: playfully trying to knock the ball away from after the touchdowns,
Speaker 1: and it was thirty eight to seven, and then the
Speaker 1: Titans cut it to thirty eight to fifteen on a
Speaker 1: Polo touchdown with a two point conversion, then to thirty
Speaker 1: eight to twenty two on a Westbrook a Keene six
Speaker 1: yard catch on a Taija touchdown from two out, and
Speaker 1: then Rudolph to Kankwo on the two point try. Indianapolis
Speaker 1: needed first downs to seal it. They got him two
Speaker 1: first downs, one by a by Richardson pass, one by
Speaker 1: a Richardson run. Tennessee would only get the ball back
Speaker 1: down eight points with one play, with the ability to
Speaker 1: run only one play from their own ten yard line,
Speaker 1: and Rudolph was picked by Kenny Moore Ballgame Giants. They
Speaker 1: lose to Atlanta. This game was more noteworthy for being
Speaker 1: Michael Pennix's debut as a starter. He has played before,
Speaker 1: but this was his first start for the Atlanta Falcons.
Speaker 1: I don't know that there was anything in this game
Speaker 1: from Pennix that caused alarm. I don't know that there
Speaker 1: was anything that made you overly joyful. It was kind
Speaker 1: of a solid performance.
Speaker 4: I know on the stat line it says you throw
Speaker 4: an interception, but it was no fault.
Speaker 1: The interception was not his fault.
Speaker 4: Is that here you go?
Speaker 1: Oh, Kyle Pitt went right to Kyle Pitt's cradle and
Speaker 1: he just sort of like then almost tossed it to
Speaker 1: the defender. There's no need to go through this other
Speaker 1: than Atlanta got two pick sixes. For the proponers of
Speaker 1: the main scores of this game, or really the scores
Speaker 1: that turned this game, if you could even use the
Speaker 1: word turned.
Speaker 4: I guess guess what defense I was going up against
Speaker 4: in my fantasy football playoff?
Speaker 1: Oh, Atlanta, nicely, thank you, Drew Locke.
Speaker 4: Third, definitely gont get any Christmas presents from me.
Speaker 1: Thirty four to seven, Atlanta beats the Giants, and as
Speaker 1: we said, the Giants are on the clock right now.
Speaker 1: If they lose out, they've got the number one pick
Speaker 1: in the NFL Draft. I will see Indianapolis, who still
Speaker 1: has things to play for minus six and a half
Speaker 1: at the Giants.
Speaker 4: We've got Colts minus seven and a half here on DraftKings.
Speaker 1: Over the seven. Okay, I guess I can buy that. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Next coming up next, we've got Sunday, still one o'clock
Speaker 4: at Eastern time, Panthers against the Buccaneers.
Speaker 1: We talked a little bit about the Panthers beating the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: Eliminating the Cardinals. Good on Bryce Young, by the way,
Speaker 1: Bryce Young was You know, he has played much much
Speaker 1: better this year after the benching Andy Dalton got those
Speaker 1: few weeks in and then ever since then, Bryce Young
Speaker 1: with except for the last week. Last week he had
Speaker 1: a bit of a regression game, but he's been playing
Speaker 1: really well. He did miss that horrible third and three
Speaker 1: late wide open receiver that might have sealed the deal
Speaker 1: for the Panthers, gave the Cardinals life, got it to overtime,
Speaker 1: and thankfully for him, Carolina is still won in overtime.
Speaker 1: But that was an ugly game. There were twenty penalties,
Speaker 1: eleven on the Cardinals, nine on the Panthers. This is
Speaker 1: Carolina at Tampa Bay. Did you see this game last night?
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay in the driver's seat in the NFC South
Speaker 1: not anymore. Atlanta and the Buccaneers now tied at the
Speaker 1: top of the NFC South, but the Buccaneers have been
Speaker 1: swept by the Falcons, so the Falcons currently have the tiebreaker,
Speaker 1: which is what makes the move to Pennix for the
Speaker 1: Falcons so interesting. It's like, man, you can make the
Speaker 1: playoffs here and you're going with the rookie. Interesting. You
Speaker 1: must really think Kirk Cousins has lost it completely, And
Speaker 1: maybe he has. I'm not saying he hasn't, but it's
Speaker 1: still a curious move when now you are in the
Speaker 1: driver's seat, right if you gave Atlanta Falcons fans truth
Speaker 1: serum and your goal here is to make the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Would you rather have Kirk Cousins at quarterback these last
Speaker 1: two games or the unknown quantity of Michael Pennix, who
Speaker 1: I still think is an unknown quantity because he played
Speaker 1: the Giants.
Speaker 4: I think you go Michael Pennix.
Speaker 1: You still think it's Michael Patkins.
Speaker 4: Just Kirk Cousins just seems like a shell of himself
Speaker 4: and the confidence is not there.
Speaker 1: I'm a guy who has repeatedly talked about how I
Speaker 1: don't think Kirk couzs. I mean, I'm you know, people
Speaker 1: love Kirk Cousins. I'm a Washington fan. I got seven
Speaker 1: years or six years of Kirk Cousins. I kind of
Speaker 1: know where his limitations are. And I've said it repeatedly
Speaker 1: on the show, but I kind of think I'd want
Speaker 1: Cousins the last two games anyway. Tampa Bay yesterday you
Speaker 1: kept thinking, a is Tampa Bay really going to lose?
Speaker 1: This football game? Was three to nothing Dallas after a
Speaker 1: fifty eight yard field goal from Aubrey, Who's just incredible
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. This was maybe a portent of things to
Speaker 1: come fourth and three at the Dallas forty eight. On
Speaker 1: the ensuing drive, three to nothing, down three to nothing.
Speaker 1: Mayfield to a wide open Sterling Shepherd, he drops it,
Speaker 1: drops it. Dallas five plays fifty two yards rushed to
Speaker 1: jail and Tilbert ten to nothing Dallas. Later Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: would cut it to ten to seven on a six
Speaker 1: play fifty seven yard drive, sensational catch by Mike Evans
Speaker 1: for twenty six early in the drive, then irving in
Speaker 1: from two ten to seven. But then it would get
Speaker 1: to thirteen to seven on an Aubrey field goal forty
Speaker 1: nine yarder, and then Dallas eight plays eighty yards zeke
Speaker 1: in from one twenty to seven Cowboys late second quarter
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, though, before the end of the half seven
Speaker 1: plays seventy one yards Mayfield to McMillan from eleven out.
Speaker 1: They'd cut it to twenty to fourteen. But before the
Speaker 1: final play of that drive, Todd Bowles, for no apparent reason,
Speaker 1: calls a timeout with fifty four seconds left at the
Speaker 1: Dallas ten. So after the score, Dallas is left with
Speaker 1: forty eight seconds, because no one scores with forty eight
Speaker 1: seconds left on a clock anymore, especially when you have
Speaker 1: a terrible kicker like Brandon Aubrey on the other side.
Speaker 1: So what does Brandon Aubrey do fifty eight yards once again,
Speaker 1: twenty three to fourteen Dallas at the half.
Speaker 4: Is he the greatest kicker in NFL history?
Speaker 1: Unbelievable and he's incredible. It's hard to say that, but
Speaker 1: he's incredible. Tampa Bay got it to first intend the
Speaker 1: Dallas twenty six to start the second half. They ended
Speaker 1: up with a fourth and forty at their own forty four.
Speaker 1: That's kind of all you need to know. Got to
Speaker 1: twenty six to seventeen, Baker would get picked deep by
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis, who took it from McMillan on the way
Speaker 1: into the end zone. Great play by Jordan Lewis. The
Speaker 1: Dallas secondary was just incredible last night. Tampa Bay, then
Speaker 1: late down nine would get a nine play, eighty seven
Speaker 1: yard drive Baker to Ryan Miller from thirteen out to
Speaker 1: cut twenty six to twenty four, but with two timeouts
Speaker 1: in two minute warning, they did force Dallas at three
Speaker 1: and out. Tampa Bay took over at their own twenty
Speaker 1: six with one forty to go. Baker avoided the sacks.
Speaker 1: He flipped it to Rashad White, but he's stripped by
Speaker 1: Deron Bland on the way down. Ball game unbelievable, Dallas
Speaker 1: the Secondary Yesterday, Tampa Bay minus four and a half
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Speaker 1: Back on the Numbers Game Live from Circa Resort Casino
Speaker 1: Hotel Downtow, Las Vegas, Gil Alexander with Wyatt Tom check
Speaker 1: in for the vacationing Kelly Biddling. Merry Christmas to you,
Speaker 1: by the way, Happy Honika, whatever you're celebrating. Happy Holidays
Speaker 1: to you on what is always a nice time of year.
Speaker 1: We should probably go back to what we're just talking
Speaker 1: about moments ago one you had Buccaneers minus eight or
Speaker 1: the market is Buccaneers minus eight hosting the Panthers. That's
Speaker 1: a bet on the Panthers. For me, I might be
Speaker 1: too low with my guess, but that's that's high.
Speaker 4: Is that a bet because of the confidence you have
Speaker 4: with Bryce Young's improvement as a player, or is it
Speaker 4: just over all the Bucks just.
Speaker 1: I just think Carolina, like Dallas, Carolina is playing out
Speaker 1: the string here. They have not packed it in. And
Speaker 1: as good as the Buccaneers are, you give me eight,
Speaker 1: I'll take the eight. I could be I mean, it
Speaker 1: could be very wrong. If Tampa Bay won by twenty one,
Speaker 1: would I be shocked? I would not. But I'll take
Speaker 1: eight in an NFL a late season game because you
Speaker 1: can really tell who the teams are, like, you know
Speaker 1: a lot of this punting stuff laden games Like I
Speaker 1: think the Bears we haven't gotten. We did talk about
Speaker 1: the Bears game, but we didn't talk about in that game
Speaker 1: was when the Bears were down? Was it? I want
Speaker 1: to get this exactly right, but they made it. They
Speaker 1: opted to kick a field goal in the second half
Speaker 1: that trimmed a three point a three score deficit to
Speaker 1: a three score deficit, and you do wonder about teams
Speaker 1: like that. You're like, oh, are they trying to You're
Speaker 1: trying to lose here? New England did that right. New
Speaker 1: England was like, oh, we're down ten, let's punt this
Speaker 1: and then we'll get the cosmetic touchdown. Like you wonder,
Speaker 1: You're like, was that really the optimal thing to do
Speaker 1: if you're trying to win a football game. You see
Speaker 1: none of that with the Cowboys. You see none of
Speaker 1: that with the Panthers, who obviously are not playing You know,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys kids are not playing for a really high
Speaker 1: pick at this point. But I'm just saying they're part
Speaker 1: of our handicapping job here is to try to figure
Speaker 1: out who is playing this above board as you would
Speaker 1: any game, and who is kind of making suboptimal decisions
Speaker 1: when it comes late in the game. Not the players
Speaker 1: on the field, just the decisions that are being made.
Speaker 1: So I think the values on the Panthers there. The
Speaker 1: other thing, though, is you were saying off air, which
Speaker 1: I think is right if you would this game last
Speaker 1: night was physical. Well, the hitting was awesome and they
Speaker 1: weren't throwing flags right, And by the way, Dallas's hits
Speaker 1: were all kind of legal. There weren't any flat flags
Speaker 1: to be thrown. And the Vita Vea stuff was hilarious.
Speaker 4: That was so funny. We're just watching the play and
Speaker 4: all of a sudden you just see Vidave, who three
Speaker 4: hundred fifty pounds is just he went in coverage, sprinted
Speaker 4: across the field and just swallowed up the poor I
Speaker 4: think it was Jake Ferguson, who's probably where the heck
Speaker 4: did you come from? That was hilarious. There was another hit.
Speaker 4: I think Mike Evans got one when Baker was kind
Speaker 4: of rolling out to his right and it was just
Speaker 4: a beautiful hit right to the mid section playing the ball.
Speaker 4: I was like, I know right when it happened, You're like,
Speaker 4: all right, here comes to flag. And I think the
Speaker 4: reps did a really good job of letting everyone play.
Speaker 1: Kelly said on Twitter. He says, remember to include the
Speaker 1: line when you give the matchup to Gil. That's what
Speaker 1: the pros do. Talking about how he gave the line
Speaker 1: last week, stringfellow Hawk, who was who we met after
Speaker 1: the show, super Guy, he says he grabbed the Chiefs
Speaker 1: minus two and a half. Yesterday. He said Jeff Schwartz
Speaker 1: pointed out, which we did earlier today on the show.
Speaker 1: He said, if they win Wednesday, oh, this is true.
Speaker 1: I even short changed by a week because I have forgot,
Speaker 1: of course, that they wouldn't even play the wildcard round.
Speaker 1: He says, if the Chiefs win on Wednesday, that means
Speaker 1: they would lock up the number one seed Christmas Wednesday,
Speaker 1: so the Wednesday of week seventeen, so they get the
Speaker 1: rest of week seventeen. Week eighteen doesn't matter because they
Speaker 1: would have locked up the number one seed. They will
Speaker 1: get the buye obviously with the number one seed wild
Speaker 1: card weekend, so they would not play a meaningful game
Speaker 1: until January eighteenth at the earliest, in the divisional round
Speaker 1: of the playoffs January eighteenth. So what's that. That's twenty
Speaker 1: four days between Christmas Day and January eighteenth.
Speaker 4: That is a lot. I mean, plus, if there's one
Speaker 4: team that can do it, it's the Chiefs. But it's
Speaker 4: kind of like, you know, when we have the MLB playoffs,
Speaker 4: where it was up until the Dodgers winning it this year,
Speaker 4: it was like nobody who had that first round by
Speaker 4: was every time in the end ol they were getting
Speaker 4: eliminated the first round, So it's like, do you want
Speaker 4: to continue to play meaningful football as much as you
Speaker 4: possibly can. It's kind of a glass half half empty,
Speaker 4: half full.
Speaker 1: There's so many interesting quirks of this, right because first
Speaker 1: of all, the Chiefs, by far, the first game we
Speaker 1: went over is still the best for me, the best
Speaker 1: value so far that we've done on the ship, even
Speaker 1: more than Carolina, just because with Carolina you don't know,
Speaker 1: you know, more volatile outcomes. But the Chiefs having the
Speaker 1: prospect of twenty four days of rest or twenty three
Speaker 1: days of rest in between more than three weeks. What
Speaker 1: an incentive that is wrapping up the number one seed
Speaker 1: Mahomes gets to rest. You think about that, and then
Speaker 1: the survivor implications, because I mean there's over twenty people
Speaker 1: that have you know, Pittsburgh available to them and survivor.
Speaker 1: Are they really going to get in front of that
Speaker 1: and pick the Steelers on Christmas with their over three
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars intrinsic value entry. I mean I couldn't.
Speaker 1: I just couldn't. So I mean there's all kinds of implications.
Speaker 4: I was also going to think, like picking against the
Speaker 4: Chiefs and survivor of safet You have the Broncos for
Speaker 4: the final week, Just thinking, who is the Chief's backup quarterback?
Speaker 4: It's Carson Wentz, right, Yep. What's Carson's Carson Wentz incentive
Speaker 4: to play that game? Is he playing to try to
Speaker 4: get another job in the NFL like if it was
Speaker 4: Chad Henny like last year, but I think he retired
Speaker 4: after last year. No, he's a true backup. He's going
Speaker 4: to be with the Chiefs forever. Is Carson Wentz going
Speaker 4: to be like, Hey, this is my time to shine.
Speaker 4: I need to show that I could still be a
Speaker 4: starter in the NFL. That's another thing to kind of
Speaker 4: take an integration.
Speaker 1: He'll of course have full effort in that as well.
Speaker 1: But you're right you pointed out earlier Denver big fans
Speaker 1: of the Chiefs on Wednesday, so that they even if
Speaker 1: they lose to the Bengals the Boncos that is this week,
Speaker 1: they would get a Carson Wentz led Chiefs team more
Speaker 1: likely than not in Week eighteen.
Speaker 4: What's next coming up next year? After we did? Oh
Speaker 4: this one? This game's ugly one pm Eastern time, Titans
Speaker 4: at the Jaguars.
Speaker 1: No need to go over anything but some of the stats.
Speaker 1: Tennessee gave up four hundred and fifty eight total yards
Speaker 1: of the Colts. Remember they were up seven to nothing.
Speaker 1: They trailed thirty eight to seven after the Colts score
Speaker 1: thirty eight in a row. Thirty eight thirty was the
Speaker 1: final as the Colts held on minus two and turnovers.
Speaker 1: Were the Titans at that game? And then Jacksonville losing
Speaker 1: excuse me, yeah, losing to the Raiders. Sorry Raiders fans,
Speaker 1: Sorry about that. Thomas Junior. Good year for Brian Thomas
Speaker 1: Junior in exile in Jacksonville nine catches for one thirty
Speaker 1: two in a touchdown. They two were minus two in
Speaker 1: turnovers against the Raiders. I'll say Jacksonville minus two and
Speaker 1: a half. Hosting Tennessee.
Speaker 4: We've got Jaguars minus one.
Speaker 1: Jag Wires minus one. But what are the Jaguars quiet?
Speaker 1: What are they? They're also minus one? No?
Speaker 4: Oh ya? Is this the Matt Brown Bengals Bengals?
Speaker 1: He says Bengals with an I next.
Speaker 4: Next when only have two games in the what would
Speaker 4: be the one o'clock slate for US four or five
Speaker 4: pm Eastern time Dolphins against the Browns?
Speaker 1: Would you say there's only two games in the what
Speaker 1: oh the lates yea lates list because there's so many
Speaker 1: games on Saturday, Thursday, Wednesday, gotcha. Miami beats the Niners.
Speaker 1: The seven and eight Dolphins still alive again for the
Speaker 1: final wildcard position. Remember it's the The Chargers and the
Speaker 1: Broncos are both nine and six, and then you have
Speaker 1: the Colts, Dolphins, and Bengals all at seven and eight.
Speaker 1: So again, Broncos and Chargers just have to win a
Speaker 1: game and they're in. They control their own destiny. But
Speaker 1: these teams are lurking. Miami beat San Francisco yesterday game
Speaker 1: they led three to nothing, then Niners ten plays, seventy
Speaker 1: yards Pertty to Debo for sixteen great effort touchdown where
Speaker 1: Romo was like still Drew, still grinding in there, still pushing,
Speaker 1: still pushing. It's like, okay, Tony seven to three San Francisco,
Speaker 1: and then it was kind of all Dolphins. It was
Speaker 1: seven to six Miami. Then in a late second, late
Speaker 1: first half, eight plays sixty eight yards, two out a
Speaker 1: Tyreek from three out, thirteen to seven. It would be
Speaker 1: thirteen to ten at the half. Sanders, Who's awesome. Also,
Speaker 1: by the way, fifty four yard field goal made it
Speaker 1: sixteen to ten. Then Moody missed a forty one yard
Speaker 1: drive for the Niners. Dolphins would get to fourth and
Speaker 1: two at the San Francisco sixteen. They would say, you
Speaker 1: know what, I don't think the Niners can do anything
Speaker 1: on offense. Let's just kick a field goal to go
Speaker 1: up nine. They did. Sanders thirty three yard field goal
Speaker 1: nineteen to ten with a minute eight left in the
Speaker 1: third quarter. San Francisco did get one more drive here,
Speaker 1: touchdown drive nine play, sixty yards Perty to Salbert from
Speaker 1: three out, nineteen to seventeen Dolphins with twelve oh two left.
Speaker 1: The two teams would trade punts, then Sanders would get
Speaker 1: a field goal forty eight yard twenty two to seventeen
Speaker 1: s with two ten left in the game. So San
Speaker 1: Francisco has the ball down five, first and ten at
Speaker 1: their own forty seven Perty hit as he throws picked
Speaker 1: by cater Coo who that's pretty much it. San Francisco
Speaker 1: did have three timeouts left, but eight Chan made that
Speaker 1: academic because he scored from fifty out twenty nine to
Speaker 1: seventeen and that was your ballgame. As San Francisco turned
Speaker 1: it over on downs. They're at Cleveland. We already talked
Speaker 1: about Cleveland losing to the Bengals. Dtr ended up twenty
Speaker 1: of thirty four with one to fifty seven, but he
Speaker 1: was sacked five times. He threw two picks Miles Garrett
Speaker 1: with the one hundredth sack of his career. That was
Speaker 1: the positive point for the Browns. I'll say Miami put
Speaker 1: it in no man's land minus five and a half
Speaker 1: at Cleveland.
Speaker 4: Right now on DK we have Dolphins. Mine is six
Speaker 4: and a half.
Speaker 1: Okay, sure, let me just say this about the Niners
Speaker 1: because I was on Will Hill. Will Hill was kind
Speaker 1: enough to have me on the Shit Have Been More
Speaker 1: podcast yesterday and one of the questions he asked me,
Speaker 1: is you learn anything about any of the playoff teams
Speaker 1: this weekend? I was like, not really, you know you
Speaker 1: kind of there was nothing so amazing. This was before
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay played last night. I was like, nothing really different,
Speaker 1: I said, but the one team that I might say
Speaker 1: something about is the Niners. Of the non playoff teams,
Speaker 1: I was more Niners. I lasted on the Niners longer
Speaker 1: than most people did before they finally realized, oh, there's
Speaker 1: too many injuries that you can't have them anywhere close
Speaker 1: to the top ten anymore. Have they gotten so bad
Speaker 1: that it's more than just the injuries? Like I just
Speaker 1: think that the Niners internally have to have that discussion,
Speaker 1: like they have fallen so far off a cliff. Maybe
Speaker 1: it is that, Maybe I'm being unfair, but the man
Speaker 1: is it been a just absolute precipitous fall. We'll come back.
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Speaker 1: discuss the college football playoff, and we alluded to it earlier.
Speaker 1: We didn't say much about it, but because we'll talk
Speaker 1: about it tomorrow with Pete. But four blowouts, with apologies
Speaker 1: to Clemson, they kind of made it interesting. But the
Speaker 1: I mean most of the I mean even that territory
Speaker 1: it blow out territory, that's right, and the others were good.
Speaker 4: God, oh, sim you. I felt bad for that quarterback
Speaker 4: was just I don't.
Speaker 1: Know, the stage was too big or something like.
Speaker 4: You know, some of the throws You're just like, hey,
Speaker 4: it was a great play by the defensive The defensive
Speaker 4: players just sitting there, thank you very much.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. It was one of those moments where
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, man, like, what was that? Over and
Speaker 1: over though Notre Dame just crushed Indiana the night before,
Speaker 1: so that by the time that Texas and Clemson rolled around,
Speaker 1: I was like, and then Texas took the lead. I
Speaker 1: barely saw Clemson making it interesting because I was like,
Speaker 1: I got to do other things, you know.
Speaker 4: It was funny about the Notre Dame game that really
Speaker 4: just kind of threw me off. And this is just
Speaker 4: you know, me knowing how TV works and whatnot. Watch
Speaker 4: the game a home game at Notre Dame on ESPN.
Speaker 4: I'd always watched a home game at Notre Dame on
Speaker 4: NBC on NBC. It was it was so weird to
Speaker 4: me to witness that.
Speaker 1: Well, looking forward to the quarterfinals anyway, Come come New
Speaker 1: Year's Eve Day and New Year's Day itself itself, looking
Speaker 1: forward to that, but we do have a wait for that.
Speaker 1: There are two bowl games today, one of which is
Speaker 1: already kicked off. Probably should have mentioned this. This is
Speaker 1: the this is the Myrtle Beach Bowl that's going on
Speaker 1: now Coastal Carolina and ut San Antonio. UTSA is a
Speaker 1: twelve and a half point pre flop favorite in it.
Speaker 1: I did not have any pre flop bets on this,
Speaker 1: just because it's more of a homeish game for Coastal
Speaker 1: Carolina here, so I didn't want to touch it. And
Speaker 1: then a little later on it's the Idahoe the Idaho
Speaker 1: Potato Bowl, pardon me, the Idaho Potato Bowl, which kicks
Speaker 1: off in a few hours. Northern Illinois Fresno State. Northern
Speaker 1: Illinois is a field goal favorite here. Northern Illinois, of course,
Speaker 1: famously having beaten Notre Dame early in the season, season
Speaker 1: got a whole bunch more choppy after that. And then
Speaker 1: Fresno State has a lot of folks in the in
Speaker 1: the portal, so I don't know what to make of
Speaker 1: that game. Plus, Northern Illinois on the blue turf seems
Speaker 1: a lot more foreign than it does Fresno State on
Speaker 1: the blue turf, which we've seen many times before.
Speaker 4: Yeah, although Northern Illinois could be in the mount West
Speaker 4: here coming soon.
Speaker 1: So I have no pre flops in either of these
Speaker 1: two bowl games, as once again the most low key
Speaker 1: bowl season continues. As we're also focused on the colleg
Speaker 1: football playoff again. We'll talk to a few tech about
Speaker 1: that tomorrow. Also on the show, Will Hill with all
Speaker 1: of his bets and NFL power rankings and an annual
Speaker 1: tradition here on a numbers game where a middle aged
Speaker 1: tribesman gives you his top ten favorite Christmas songs of
Speaker 1: all time.
Speaker 4: I'll considering in middle age.
Speaker 1: Yeah, R and B flavor to them Mina in many cases,
Speaker 1: but not all cases, we'll see Wham shows up, Paul
Speaker 1: McCartney shows up, it's a whole thing. I take this
Speaker 1: very seriously.
Speaker 4: People, will you be singing, I.
Speaker 1: Will not be saying. This is not a Matt Ewman's
Speaker 1: West Reynolds situation. Great greatest video that on VS and YouTube,
Speaker 1: great moment take It was the producer for that. He
Speaker 1: did a fabulous job. Oh of course he was Brian
Speaker 1: or Tega's north star. When he's a producer is what
Speaker 1: will entertain me? And he hit the mark on that one.
Speaker 1: All right, have we gotten to it yet?
Speaker 4: Your commanders know we've got one more game before that
Speaker 4: Sunday for twenty five pm Eastern time. It is the
Speaker 4: rivals of the commanders, the Cowboys and the Eagles.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys and the Eagles. Oh okay, Cowboys and the Eagles. Well,
Speaker 1: we get to talk about the commanders here. Cowboys, as
Speaker 1: we said, beat the Bucks last night and deal the
Speaker 1: Bucks a severe blow to their playoff hopes. All is
Speaker 1: not lost. Buccaneers obviously still trying to win the NFC South,
Speaker 1: but now the Falcons control their own destiny, as both
Speaker 1: teams are tied at the top of the NFC South
Speaker 1: and the Falcons already having swept the Buccaneers courtesy of
Speaker 1: some good Kirk Cousins performances. I might add I can't
Speaker 1: believe I'm the guy defending Cousins. Now, what a turn
Speaker 1: of events. This is all right, Philly yesterday hosting Dallas
Speaker 1: next week. But Philly loses to Washington because the kid
Speaker 1: is magic. People, I'm telling you, Philadelphia start well. Let's
Speaker 1: start with Washington with well fourth in inches at their
Speaker 1: own forty nine. Washington decides to go forward. Robinson stuffed.
Speaker 1: Philadelphia set up at the Washington forty nine. Saquon in
Speaker 1: from two, eventually seven and nothing, Philly eleven to fifteen
Speaker 1: left in the first quarter. Washington after a Luke McCaffrey
Speaker 1: forty seven yard kickoff return first play, Robinson hit by
Speaker 1: Jalen Carter fumble. Sorry what recovered by Nolan Smith Junior
Speaker 1: bad first Fantasy team. Philadelphia set up at their own
Speaker 1: forty three, second and twenty at the Washington thirty four.
Speaker 1: Hurts runs. Jalen Hurts's bell is rung by Frankie Louvu.
Speaker 1: He gets up the official You could see it by
Speaker 1: the way through his helmet. He looked like he was loopy,
Speaker 1: and the officials saw it and they said, why don't
Speaker 1: you take a seed.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 4: Did you see he gets the thumbs up?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was like wow, Judge Silin Bunny and Jalen
Speaker 1: Hurts never to return in this football game. And concussions
Speaker 1: are you know when we talk about okay, who do
Speaker 1: you think who do you really believe is going to
Speaker 1: eventually be the number one seed now in the NFC.
Speaker 1: Obviously Philadelphia is behind the eight ball now, a game
Speaker 1: behind both the Vikings and Lions. Who could be could
Speaker 1: be not necessary, but it could be headed to a
Speaker 1: winner take all showdown in week eighteen if they both
Speaker 1: win out here next week, or as long as the
Speaker 1: Vikings don't lose and the Lions win, let's put it
Speaker 1: that way. In week seventeen, that's what it will be.
Speaker 1: But you wonder, concussion protocol is a funny thing because
Speaker 1: you have to get through these certain levels. We don't
Speaker 1: really know as fans or as betters where that is.
Speaker 1: We just hear what we hear. So he either, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of is available or he's not. I mean, obviously
Speaker 1: with Philadelphia that's the story number one. Not having lost
Speaker 1: this football game being story number two, I would say,
Speaker 1: But Philadelphia set up their own forty three second and
Speaker 1: twenty at the Washington thirty four hurts, his bell is rung.
Speaker 1: He leaves the game, never to return. Kenny Pickett is
Speaker 1: in four plays later, pick it to Brown from four
Speaker 1: out touchdown. It is fourteen to nothing Philly with seven
Speaker 1: oh eight left in the first quarter. And then another
Speaker 1: three and now from Washington. This is a big play
Speaker 1: picket second and seven at their own eighteen pick by Louvu.
Speaker 1: Washington set up at the Philly twenty. Daniels to Crowder
Speaker 1: from six out. Remember Jamis and crowd are pour ten
Speaker 1: of things to come. Fourteen to seven Philly, three twelve
Speaker 1: left in the first quarter. This is still all first
Speaker 1: quarter Philadelphia. Then two plays sixty nine yards Saquon one yard,
Speaker 1: then sixty eight to the house, twenty one to seven
Speaker 1: Eagles with two eighteen left in the first And remember
Speaker 1: at this point Saquon has one hundred nine yards rushing
Speaker 1: in the two touchdowns. Washington the matriculates first and tenth
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia sixteen. The Robinson hit by Dejene fumbles, DeShane recovers,
Speaker 1: and here's the thing. It's like, Okay, pickets in hurts
Speaker 1: us out. If you're a Washington fan or a Washington
Speaker 1: backer like myself, You're like, okay, you gotta take advantage
Speaker 1: of picket being in and hurts out, but you can't
Speaker 1: keep making these mistakes over and over. And then Washington
Speaker 1: was so hurts ruled out. At this point in the game,
Speaker 1: Philly uh has. Philly has to punt Washington Daniels to
Speaker 1: Diami for fifty. Then Jayden converts a fourth and three
Speaker 1: with the five yard scramble four plays later than three
Speaker 1: plays later third and eight from the Philly thirty two
Speaker 1: to the incomparable Terry McLaurin. What a beautiful pass and
Speaker 1: catch in the corner of the end. So twenty one
Speaker 1: to fourteen, six forty six left in the second quarter.
Speaker 1: Washington A couple drives later, first play, first intent their
Speaker 1: own thirty three Daniel bad overthrow picked by CJ. Gardner
Speaker 1: Johnson that led to an Elliot fifty six yard field
Speaker 1: goal tribe which was short, so it goes to the
Speaker 1: half twenty one to fourteen Eagles.
Speaker 4: Was that the play that CJ. Gardner Johnson also got
Speaker 4: ejected when he had the pick?
Speaker 1: Did he get ejected?
Speaker 4: He got ejected, and I think he gave I think
Speaker 4: he told the commanders fancy if they were number one,
Speaker 4: sick was going off the play and.
Speaker 1: Now number one after this one, Philly maybe in the division.
Speaker 1: You are twenty four to fourteen now Philly Washington third quarter,
Speaker 1: second play, second intent, their own thirty seven Daniels to Diami,
Speaker 1: hit by zach Bond, he fumbles. Nolan Smith Junior recovers.
Speaker 1: Just mistake after mistake after mistake after mistake for Washington.
Speaker 1: You gotta take advantage of herds being out and picking it,
Speaker 1: and they're not at this point. Elliott forty yardfield goal
Speaker 1: makes it twenty seven to fourteen with just over three
Speaker 1: minutes left in the third quarter. Washington last play of
Speaker 1: the fourth, fourth and eleven for the Skins at the
Speaker 1: Philly forty one. Daniels for twenty nine because he's amazing.
Speaker 1: Then three plays later, Jaydon to Olamide z Achaias from
Speaker 1: four out, twenty seven to twenty one Philly thirteen thirty
Speaker 1: three left in the fourth quarter. After Philly punt, Washington
Speaker 1: seven plays eighty seven yards. Jaden to z Achaius breaks
Speaker 1: two tackles for forty nine into the end zone. Philly
Speaker 1: still had twelve men on the field. Didn't matter. Touchdown
Speaker 1: Washington leads twenty eight twenty seven, first lead of the
Speaker 1: game with nine h six left, but then Philly with
Speaker 1: some magic of their own fourth and one at their
Speaker 1: own forty three, Picket to Smith for four, then fourth
Speaker 1: and seven at midfield, Picket to Brown breaks a tackle
Speaker 1: for fifteen, then third and fifteen, Piket gains eight. They
Speaker 1: throw a flag for playing football on a late slide,
Speaker 1: late hit, but they correctly pick it up. Elliott fifty
Speaker 1: yard field goal good thirty to twenty eight. Philly with
Speaker 1: three forty eight left, and then Washington third and five
Speaker 1: at their own forty You want another mistake, here's another one. Jayden,
Speaker 1: bad pass picked by Blanket Ship You're like, you gotta
Speaker 1: be kidding. Five turnovers. This is how we're gonna lose this.
Speaker 1: By the way, Philadelphia up to with two fifty three
Speaker 1: left in the game of the Washington twenty seven, third
Speaker 1: and five at the Washington twenty two. They get it
Speaker 1: to there, Smith drops a pass from Picket that ends
Speaker 1: up being bad for Washington backers in the moment Elliott
Speaker 1: because that leads to a field goal that made it
Speaker 1: a five point difference thirty three to twenty eight. Bad
Speaker 1: for Washington ats, but Washington money line players, you're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's not the worst thing in the world anyway. You
Speaker 1: know what happens. Washington takes over at their own forty
Speaker 1: three with one to fifty two left in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: twenty nine yard after a twenty nine yard McCaffrey return
Speaker 1: an illegal formation on Philly to Zicicaias for seven, Robinson
Speaker 1: for five to mcclauran for ten, rolls out of bounds
Speaker 1: because he's smart, Jayden for twelve to mccaorran for seven.
Speaker 1: Daniels from two, final time out Philly fourteen at the
Speaker 1: Philly fourteen with twenty three seconds left, Robinson for five,
Speaker 1: Spike second a goal to nine with ten seconds left.
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Speaker 1: the Pants. I got the Chiefs minus two and a
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Speaker 1: which is, Boy, would the Chiefs love to have twenty
Speaker 1: four days to rest before their first playoff game and
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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't have to, no one's forcing me to,
Speaker 1: but that seems way too high to me. You anything me?
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Speaker 1: Get tweets at beating the book. This is from a
Speaker 1: Buddhist man. He says, it's just too over the top.
Speaker 1: Why it is after brandishing the UNLV Women's basketball Mountain
Speaker 1: West Championship ring for quote Gills benefit unquote Yeah, I
Speaker 1: noticed that myself. I just wonder if Wyatt got the
Speaker 1: physic where they asked him if he wanted a ring
Speaker 1: and then they deducted the costs directly from his pay No.
Speaker 4: No, no, part part of the team. Part of the team.
Speaker 1: Part of the team. Yeah, well you're the announcer. That's true.
Speaker 1: You are part of the team.
Speaker 4: Three straight championships. The start of a conference season will
Speaker 4: be next Sunday.
Speaker 1: Ryde tops of recapping the Commanders game, he sounded like
Speaker 1: Todd Wishnev on the megapod when he gets the radio
Speaker 1: call for the future. All that was missing was somebody
Speaker 1: diving for the pylon. Yeah. I didn't do wish Nev justice.
Speaker 1: I just I will say this though, And I didn't
Speaker 1: even guess the spread for Philly hosting Dallas because I
Speaker 1: think there's two spreads you can guess here, one with Hurts,
Speaker 1: one without. I think it's minus three and a half
Speaker 1: without minus nine and a half.
Speaker 4: With Right now, DK, it's been jumping up and down
Speaker 4: a lot. Right now we're at minus nine and a half,
Speaker 4: so I think they're.
Speaker 1: Thinking assuming, Yeah, oh wow, pretty pumped that I nailed
Speaker 1: it after my horrific Tampa Bay one. I just want
Speaker 1: to say this about Washington though. It is really as
Speaker 1: a Washington football fan. When they got the ball for
Speaker 1: that last possession, you just I have felt like, Oh,
Speaker 1: he's going to matriculate the ball down the field and
Speaker 1: they're gonna win this football game, and they did. The
Speaker 1: Jamis Crowder, Jamison Crowder again, Jamison Crowder in his a
Speaker 1: second stint with Washington here in his career. Daniels makes
Speaker 1: the pass touchdown. This is the third fantastic finish at
Speaker 1: FedEx now called Northwest Stadium this year. Obviously there was
Speaker 1: the Hail Miriam against the Bears. There was the Terry
Speaker 1: McLaurin eighty four yard dash to the end zone, followed
Speaker 1: by the miss extra point to lose to Dallas. And
Speaker 1: now this against Philly. And you know, people talk about
Speaker 1: all the Bengals, they are the team on the outside
Speaker 1: looking in. You don't want to play in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: I have said all year long, as big of a
Speaker 1: fan of as you know, I grew up on the skins,
Speaker 1: as big as a fan that I am of that team,
Speaker 1: I've been very realistic about the fact that they're no
Speaker 1: better than the eighth or ninth best team football because
Speaker 1: they haven't beaten anybody, and they're probably you know, their
Speaker 1: ceiling is at max. Win one playoff game and then
Speaker 1: let's not get crazy after that. Even that's you know,
Speaker 1: like the height of the height ceiling. I believe they're
Speaker 1: kind of you don't want to play the miss either.
Speaker 1: I will say that.
Speaker 4: I will say that jayde Daniels is a matchup nightmare.
Speaker 4: The scrambling ability, it's so good and it could just
Speaker 4: be so backbreaking. As a Packer fan, I'm still having
Speaker 4: nightmares about Colin Kaepernick crunning the Reid option against US.
Speaker 4: But when you have that athleticism, it helps win you
Speaker 4: games a lot more than not.
Speaker 1: Philly just could not get them off the field. Could
Speaker 1: not get them off the field. Now could they also
Speaker 1: go down in a fury crash, of course, but it
Speaker 1: would still be At this point, it's still no matter what.
Speaker 1: What a season based on expectations, what a season for
Speaker 1: Washington as they have not yet clinged a playoff birth.
Speaker 1: By the way, they still have work to do here
Speaker 1: heading into the final two weeks. As far as oh
Speaker 1: which brings us, I guess I was gonna say they.
Speaker 4: Can do that hopefully on Sunday for you Sunday night
Speaker 4: football game Falcons against the Commanders.
Speaker 1: Flexed in Sunday night game Atlanta at Washington again. Implications
Speaker 1: for all this. Atlanta currently in the driver's seat in
Speaker 1: the NFC South with the tiebreaker for Tampa Bay, but
Speaker 1: they don't want to falter because Tampa Bay's schedule is
Speaker 1: super duper easy down the stretch. By the way, that's
Speaker 1: the thing that makes this also interesting. Tampa Bay who
Speaker 1: needs help from Atlanta. Their schedule is easy. And those
Speaker 1: three teams on the outside looking in, or at least
Speaker 1: two of the three teams on the outside looking in
Speaker 1: in the AFC talking about for the wildcard now Miami
Speaker 1: and Indianapolis their schedules are super easy and Cincinnati, while
Speaker 1: not easy, they get to play Denver directly, so they
Speaker 1: have some say at least in the short term here
Speaker 1: on this. So Atlanta has you know, Atlanta wants to
Speaker 1: keep winning to win the NFC South Washington their magic
Speaker 1: number is one. They just got to win once and
Speaker 1: they will have clinch to play out d they can
Speaker 1: clinch it here. This feels very Robert Griffin. Iid when
Speaker 1: RG three was in his rookie year, Washington clinched the
Speaker 1: NFC East on a Sunday night at home against Dallas. Well,
Speaker 1: this kind of has that feel to it. Panis yesterday
Speaker 1: again in his debut for the Falcons, debut as a starter,
Speaker 1: I should say, eighteen of twenty two two no touchdowns,
Speaker 1: one pick that was not his fault. He was not
Speaker 1: sacked as the Falcons held the Giants two hundred and
Speaker 1: thirty four total yards. And remember they got two pick sixes,
Speaker 1: so there's that four hundred excuse me, plus two and turnovers.
Speaker 1: Also Washington, Jaden twenty four of thirty nine for two
Speaker 1: fifty eight, five touchdown passes, two interceptions, uh, and he
Speaker 1: was sacked once. He also gained eighty one yards on
Speaker 1: nine carries. For the presumptive Rookie of the Year. The
Speaker 1: only question, again, as I said earlier on the show,
Speaker 1: is he unanimous at this point or not? I know
Speaker 1: there was a bo Nicks moment there a few weeks back.
Speaker 1: Stop it already. And about that Washington Philly game, one
Speaker 1: last thing about it. If you're a Philly fan, you
Speaker 1: get to say, well, Jalen Hurts got hurt, so you know,
Speaker 1: we can't be too upset about it. We could have
Speaker 1: won that game. Saque's rushing sort of fell off a
Speaker 1: cliff once Hurts went out of the game. By the way,
Speaker 1: maybe Philly fans will appreciate Jalen Hurts a little more
Speaker 1: after this game, so they get to say that, whereas
Speaker 1: Washington gets to say, that's all fine and dandy, but
Speaker 1: we committed five turnovers. You had a million chances to
Speaker 1: win this game, and we still won. So I think
Speaker 1: both teams kind of can leave that game feeling good
Speaker 1: about themselves.
Speaker 4: And if you look at it, for the Eagles, that
Speaker 4: DeVante Smith drop.
Speaker 1: The Devonte Smith, which again, let me let me make
Speaker 1: clear what I was talking about with the betting implications.
Speaker 1: At that moment, if you had Washington ATS, you were
Speaker 1: you were probably hoping for Smith to catch that pass,
Speaker 1: get tackled, and then the Eagles could probably run out
Speaker 1: the clock at that point. Instead, you got the drop,
Speaker 1: Philly gets to kick the field, weeel to go up five,
Speaker 1: and you're like, well, now we got to win it.
Speaker 1: So the money line people didn't care about that at
Speaker 1: that moment. But well, the moneyline people, the moneyline people
Speaker 1: actually loved the drop at that point because Washington got
Speaker 1: the ball back. But the ATS people were like, oh, no,
Speaker 1: I had I was Washington ATS. So for me, I
Speaker 1: was like, well, Jayden do your thing, and he did.
Speaker 1: I will say, Washington at home against Atlanta, Washington minus six.
Speaker 4: We've got Commanders minus four.
Speaker 1: Disrespectful. Take the Skins. That's what I said last week
Speaker 1: when Kelly said that it was only three against Philly,
Speaker 1: Philly was a three point favorite. I said, disrespectful. I'll
Speaker 1: say this is disrespectful as well. I'm gonna bet Washington here.
Speaker 1: We've got three bets only four huh against a rookie
Speaker 1: quarterback in Michael Pennicks. Yes, rookie. I know, I know
Speaker 1: Washington's got a rookie two, but at this point he's
Speaker 1: basically a second year player. After all, he's played versus Pennis.
Speaker 1: Interesting only four huh. That surprises me a little bit.
Speaker 4: Get you fired up? You ready for the last game?
Speaker 1: Yes, sir?
Speaker 4: Final game here Monday night, Lions at forty nine Ers.
Speaker 1: All right, Lions are thirteen and two, and again, while
Speaker 1: they are atop the NFC North by current tie breaker,
Speaker 1: it will only matter come Week eighteen. Like if Lions
Speaker 1: win this game against the Niners and the Vikings take
Speaker 1: care of business. Those are two big ifs. But if
Speaker 1: those things happen, then it's for all the marbles Week eighteen,
Speaker 1: Lions and Vikings, for not only the NFC North, but
Speaker 1: for the number one seed in the conference. And of
Speaker 1: course the buy that goes along with that. They got
Speaker 1: to take care of business. The Lions golf against the
Speaker 1: UH the Bears twenty three of thirty two four three
Speaker 1: thirty six, three touchdowns, no picks. He was sacked once.
Speaker 1: Gibbs twenty three for one oh nine and a touchdown
Speaker 1: on the ground in David Montgomery's absence, Jamison five catches
Speaker 1: for one forty three four hundred and seventy five total
Speaker 1: yards of offense for the Lions, who again, the play
Speaker 1: they'll be remembered for was the fake fumble play that
Speaker 1: led to the golf to laport a touchdown early second half.
Speaker 1: And then there's San Francisco, and I meant what I
Speaker 1: said earlier. Are we sure it's not all just the
Speaker 1: spate of injuries that maybe they actually something is a miss?
Speaker 1: Beyond that? Perty twenty six of forty for three thirteen.
Speaker 1: What of the Niners? We talk about what do the
Speaker 1: Vikings do with Darnold after this season? The Niners probably
Speaker 1: got to pay Purty eventually here. I don't think you
Speaker 1: play hardball with him anyway. He actually led the Niners
Speaker 1: in rushing with twenty six yards kit a eight for
Speaker 1: one one six eleven penalties for ninety though in defeat
Speaker 1: against the Dolphins, I will say the Lions minus five
Speaker 1: and a half on the road at San Francisco a.
Speaker 4: Little bit high. We've got Lions minus three and.
Speaker 1: A half, only three and a half.
Speaker 4: I gotta think with all the injuries that Detroit's had.
Speaker 4: I know forty nine ers have a lot too, but
Speaker 4: maybe that's why.
Speaker 1: Wow, I didn't expect those last two. But I really
Speaker 1: like Washington and Detroit at the numbers that are currently
Speaker 1: out there. All right, there was value, after all, a
Speaker 1: flourish at the end