WEBVTT - Stephen Miller - Here's How to Truly Secure the Border

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Buck Sexton Show. On this episode,

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<v Speaker 2>we have our friend Steven Miller joining us. He is

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<v Speaker 2>the founder and president of america First Legal, former senior

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<v Speaker 2>advisor in the Trump White House. Mister Miller, good to

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<v Speaker 2>have you, sir.

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<v Speaker 3>Great to be here. Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's start, if we can, with the the word

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<v Speaker 2>unprecedented has gotten a lot of usage. Well, wrongly when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to things that Trump had had done that

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<v Speaker 2>we're so awful, and then correctly when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>things they've done against a former president and possible future

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<v Speaker 2>president Trump, the many legal, many legal efforts to prosecute

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<v Speaker 2>and perhaps even incarcerate the former president. What do you

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<v Speaker 2>make of it?

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<v Speaker 3>A minute?

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<v Speaker 2>As we speak right now, the J six indictment from

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<v Speaker 2>Jack Smith has not come down. It is expected to

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<v Speaker 2>come down by the time people see this or hear this.

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<v Speaker 2>It may have What is their endgame here and what

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<v Speaker 2>does this mean for the law in this country?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think their endgame is quite clear, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>important not to overthink this right. In other words, when

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<v Speaker 1>somebody is trying to throw the leader of the political

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<v Speaker 1>opposition in jail, you should not engage in too many

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<v Speaker 1>layers of overly complicated analysis. What you see is what

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<v Speaker 1>is happening. What you think is happening is what is happening.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is very straightforward. If Donald Trump was not

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<v Speaker 1>running for president, if he was not the front runner

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<v Speaker 1>for president, does one person honestly believed that he would

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<v Speaker 1>be facing federal indictment right now?

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<v Speaker 3>Of course not. Of course you would not be.

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<v Speaker 1>This is about trying to keep President Trump from returning

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<v Speaker 1>to the White House, just like the Russia hoax in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty sixteen was about trying to incapacitate the presidency and

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<v Speaker 1>force him out of office, and every other frame job

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<v Speaker 1>since then, this is about trying to prevent the return

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<v Speaker 1>of President Trump to the White House, and again to

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<v Speaker 1>try to engage any well, maybe there's this other motive

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe the tray to this, maybe train to that.

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<v Speaker 1>When you charge a man with dozens of federal indictments

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<v Speaker 1>that are a functional life sentence, and then you try

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<v Speaker 1>to do it again in a second courtroom, in a

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<v Speaker 1>second citty to effectively give a man what would be

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<v Speaker 1>a life jail sentence. I do not need to read

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<v Speaker 1>any deeper into your motives than to say that they're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to keep President Trump out of the White House.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you see this just in terms of process, Steven,

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<v Speaker 2>you're a lawyer, you run I'm actually.

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<v Speaker 1>Believe it or not, I'm a oh I tell lords

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<v Speaker 1>what to do for a living, but I'm not one

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<v Speaker 1>of myself.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh well there we go. Okay, so you run America

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<v Speaker 2>First Legal, but you're not actually an in front of yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Good to know. Tell me, then, what do you think

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<v Speaker 2>I think the strategy will be of the Trump legal

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<v Speaker 2>team with regard to are they going to push these

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<v Speaker 2>prosecutions until after the election or does the former president

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<v Speaker 2>want to get them done before the election.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I can't speak to what his strategy between him

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<v Speaker 1>and as lures would be, but what I can say

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<v Speaker 1>is that it is very clear that the government strategy

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<v Speaker 1>is they want to incarcerate him before the election. And

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<v Speaker 1>we know that because of how they are wrangling over

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<v Speaker 1>the trial dates that we've already seen in the Florida case.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's very clear that what their objective is is

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<v Speaker 1>to have a trial and then incarceration prior to the election.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the things about the way they do

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<v Speaker 1>the term is stacked indictments, where you have, yeah, literally

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<v Speaker 1>dozens of repetitive charges. Is the idea is that even

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<v Speaker 1>if you win every single count, as long as there

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<v Speaker 1>is one that you don't win again, it can be

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<v Speaker 1>the functional equivalent of a life sentence. You have so

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<v Speaker 1>many statutes in this country, statutes designed to go after

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<v Speaker 1>drug kingpins, statues designed to go after cartel leaders, statues

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<v Speaker 1>designed to go after the worst of the worst, mob bosses,

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<v Speaker 1>right people who kill and rape for a living. The

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<v Speaker 1>thing about these statues that are on the books in

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<v Speaker 1>many cases is that even one of them can be

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<v Speaker 1>again the equivalent of a life sentence. So what they're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to do here is to make it so that

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<v Speaker 1>they can throw everything at the wall and hope that

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<v Speaker 1>just one thing can get across the finish line for

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<v Speaker 1>them and they can take out the leader of the

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<v Speaker 1>political opposition.

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<v Speaker 2>How are President Trump's spirits in.

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<v Speaker 1>All of this, Well, every time that I've talked to him,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never seen him more determined and committed to stay

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<v Speaker 1>the course and to save this country. Every time I've

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<v Speaker 1>spoken with him. I have seen that he understands clearly

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<v Speaker 1>the historical moment that we are in and the need

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<v Speaker 1>to see through to completion what he started in twenty fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is to ultimately liberate this government from the

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<v Speaker 1>clutches of an unaccountable, unelected permanent bureaucracy, to take on

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<v Speaker 1>both the globalist class and DC, the financial class in

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<v Speaker 1>Wall Street, the permanent political class, and restore true democracy

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<v Speaker 1>of buying for the people.

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<v Speaker 2>Steven want to ask you about the situation at the

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<v Speaker 2>border in a moment, considering you were a senior advisor

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<v Speaker 2>in the White House under Trump and dealt very much

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<v Speaker 2>with the border issue and legal immigration overall. But first

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<v Speaker 2>Buck Steven, tell me about the situation of the border

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<v Speaker 2>right now? So title what it was a title forty

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<v Speaker 2>two is over and the border is what right now?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, where where does the situation stand going into

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<v Speaker 2>this presidential election when we talk about our sovereignty and immigration.

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<v Speaker 1>Law, Well, at this moment, we have this sovereignty and

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<v Speaker 1>we have no immigration law, and therefore, in a literal sense,

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<v Speaker 1>we have no country. What we have right now is

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<v Speaker 1>an economy, we have a place where people are living.

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<v Speaker 3>We have a government.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't have a country, because the country requires you

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<v Speaker 1>to have a border, have rules of citizenship, rules of entry,

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<v Speaker 1>rules of admission, rules that determine who could become a

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<v Speaker 1>member of your society. And so during this period of

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<v Speaker 1>President Biden is in office, there is no immigration law.

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<v Speaker 3>There is no sovereignty, there is no country.

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<v Speaker 1>And the best illustration of that is that Joe Biden

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<v Speaker 1>has now initiated a policy of escorting illegal aliens directly to.

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<v Speaker 3>Our ports of entry.

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<v Speaker 1>These are our land ports along the border in which

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<v Speaker 1>lawful travelers would normally present themselves for entry into the country.

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<v Speaker 1>So that would be, for example, people here on business.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be a dual citizens so you're a Mexican

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<v Speaker 1>citizen and an American citizen, and it would be the

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<v Speaker 1>lanes of traffic that go back and forth to the

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<v Speaker 1>United States and Mexico.

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<v Speaker 3>And so those courts of entry.

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<v Speaker 1>Are now where they are bringing illegal aliens and they

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<v Speaker 1>are admitting them the course of entry. So we've gone

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<v Speaker 1>from border security as in law enforcement, halting, blocking, deterring,

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<v Speaker 1>and deporting legal aliens to now going in search of

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<v Speaker 1>going to find illegal aliens, transporting them to our course

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<v Speaker 1>of entry and bringing them directly into the country. And

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing this through a process known as parole. And

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<v Speaker 1>that term is so they may be familiar to you

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<v Speaker 1>from the domestic criminal justice context, right when we parole

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<v Speaker 1>American citizens in the context of a criminal proceeding. But

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<v Speaker 1>in this context, what it means is that you're giving

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<v Speaker 1>a preemptive amnesty to an illegal alien. So they're saying

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<v Speaker 1>to illegal aliens by the hundreds of thousands now, they

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<v Speaker 1>are saying that we are going to let you go

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<v Speaker 1>to the country. We're going to give you a two

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<v Speaker 1>year renewable deportation immunity, and we're going to be the

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<v Speaker 1>eligibility to apply for a work permit. And so that's

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<v Speaker 1>what's happening right now. And so this is a plan, premeditated,

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<v Speaker 1>purposeful assault on our sovereignty. And my organization, America First

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<v Speaker 1>Lead five one C three nonprofit is working on several

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<v Speaker 1>ongoing lawsuits against the body of the administration's mass illegal

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<v Speaker 1>Alien Settlement program and the use of this parole authority

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<v Speaker 1>to mint new migrants that are here illegally and make

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<v Speaker 1>them into their next DOCA class. And we are also

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<v Speaker 1>pushing Congress to defund all of these are settlement operations

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<v Speaker 1>in the upcoming appropriations bill. So government funding expires on

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<v Speaker 1>September thirtieth, and Congress has the power, if they choose

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<v Speaker 1>to use it, to say that you cannot use, Biden,

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<v Speaker 1>we cannot use any taxpayer dollars to release a resettle

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<v Speaker 1>illegal alience into the United States, whether it be through

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<v Speaker 1>parole or any of the other catchmer release schemes they have.

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<v Speaker 1>But as long as this continues, we are not any

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<v Speaker 1>real sense of country.

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<v Speaker 2>Stephen. What would have to happen to fix this situation?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, let's just fast forward a little bit. We're

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<v Speaker 2>going to get into this happy mindset for a second.

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<v Speaker 1>Here.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's say that President Trump becomes President Trump again. He wins,

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<v Speaker 2>He defeats all the everything that's been thrown against him. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>How does the promise that he made back in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen really of securing the border and ending the massive

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<v Speaker 2>influx of illegal immigration? How is that actually implemented? Like

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<v Speaker 2>what could be done in four more years, or rather

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<v Speaker 2>with four more years, that would finally bring us to

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<v Speaker 2>a place where, like a lot of other countries, we

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<v Speaker 2>actually have a it's never going to be perfect, right,

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<v Speaker 2>but we have a pretty secure border.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 1>So this also there does tell two what I was

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<v Speaker 1>saying earlier about how I tell lawyers what to do

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<v Speaker 1>for a living.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>In my job now as the President of America, first

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<v Speaker 1>legal right, we lead a hardcore team of lawyers and

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<v Speaker 1>litigators fighting against lawlessness all over this country. Well, when

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<v Speaker 1>I was in the Trump administration, my job on behalf

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<v Speaker 1>of the president was to direct the enforcement and implementation

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<v Speaker 1>of our immigration laws, which involved working with many skilled attorneys,

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<v Speaker 1>many talented legal minds, and that is how we implemented

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<v Speaker 1>this regime. Under President Trump, there was this bullet proof

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<v Speaker 1>anti illegal immigration program and so in twenty twenty, what

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<v Speaker 1>we had was, to use that favorite word of yours,

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<v Speaker 1>was unprecedented in its breadth and depth and completeness. And

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<v Speaker 1>so we had, as you already mentioned, Title forty two,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the public health Exclusion, so in order to

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<v Speaker 1>protect the public health of Americans, you can turn away

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<v Speaker 1>legal aliens immediately. We also had something that was known

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<v Speaker 1>as safe third agreements. Many people don't know what these are,

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<v Speaker 1>but in short, what it means is that let's say

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<v Speaker 1>you have the illegal alien from Honduras and they showed

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<v Speaker 1>with the border and they said, I want asylum here. You,

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<v Speaker 1>if you have a safe third agreement, can say we

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<v Speaker 1>have a safe third agreement with Guatemala. You cannot apply

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<v Speaker 1>for asylum here. You have only two options. You can

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<v Speaker 1>go home to Honduras or you can move to Guatemala.

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<v Speaker 1>The choice is yours. So a lot of people don't

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<v Speaker 1>know that we get signed three save third agreements in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty one with Honduras, one with Guatemala, and one

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<v Speaker 1>with Elsaliar. In addition to that, we also had a

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<v Speaker 1>number of rapid deportation programs that were able to get

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<v Speaker 1>illegal aliens to their home countries immediately without entering our

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<v Speaker 1>domestic legal system. So, in other words, the old system

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<v Speaker 1>of they go to Ice and they hire a lawyer

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<v Speaker 1>and they go to an immigration court, we'd implemented a

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<v Speaker 1>number of reforms that made it so the border patrol

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<v Speaker 1>could get an illegal alien onto an airplane and back

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<v Speaker 1>of their home country immediately. And so the combination of

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<v Speaker 1>these authorities allowed us to have a zero catcher release policy.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyone we apprehended went home immediately, and so what you

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<v Speaker 1>would see in twenty twenty five, if we were to

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<v Speaker 1>both re implement these policies to put in place them.

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<v Speaker 1>The new policies the President Trumps talked about publicly is

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<v Speaker 1>you would have an effective asylum ban across the entire

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<v Speaker 1>southwest border. So that would mean is is that any

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<v Speaker 1>illegal alien from anywhere in the world, through a combination

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<v Speaker 1>of authorities, would be able to be deported instantaneously and

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<v Speaker 1>ideally to be deported far away from the northern Mexico border,

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<v Speaker 1>our southern border, so that any return journey would be

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<v Speaker 1>exceptionally difficult. And on top of that, you would layer

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<v Speaker 1>a robust prosecution policy so that individuals who are smuggling,

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<v Speaker 1>who are trafficking, who are repeat re entrance, who are harboring, aiding,

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<v Speaker 1>embedding all the different federal criminal statues. You would then

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<v Speaker 1>work with a new DOJ to put those illegal aliens

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<v Speaker 1>behind bars for a very long period of time. So

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<v Speaker 1>you both have you have two massive determs. You have

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<v Speaker 1>instantaneous deportation, but then for individuals who are committing other

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<v Speaker 1>crimes that have lengthy jail sentences attached to them, you're

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<v Speaker 1>putting them behind bars, and you're keeping them behind bars

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<v Speaker 1>and So when smugglers and traffickers are looking at ten, fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty years behind bars, what doj should be doing Stopping

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<v Speaker 1>sex traffickers, stop you, stopping human Trafficker's not trying to

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<v Speaker 1>jail Republicans. Just those two things alone, as a deportation

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<v Speaker 1>and aggressive prosecution, we're bringing our border down to a trickle.

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<v Speaker 2>But to come in and ask you in just a

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<v Speaker 2>moment here, Steven, to tell us about some of what

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<v Speaker 2>your foundation is America first legal doing with regard to

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<v Speaker 2>the Affirmative Action Supreme Court decision and how it's effectively

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<v Speaker 2>told everybody for college admissions, and one would think for

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<v Speaker 2>corporate America in general, racism is not legal anymore, racism

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<v Speaker 2>in favor of some at the expense of others. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to get to that in just a second. But

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<v Speaker 2>first off, you know, there's something in the works that

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<v Speaker 2>could go down as the worst government power grab in history.

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<v Speaker 2>According to economist and author The Brilliant Doctor Nomi Prince,

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<v Speaker 2>our financial system could soon spiral into chaos. She's speaking

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<v Speaker 2>about a dangerous new program put forward by the by deministration.

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<v Speaker 2>This is about banning gas powered cars, but a total

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<v Speaker 2>ban on cash itself. She sees the launch of a

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<v Speaker 2>new technology called fed now. It's an attack on our cash,

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<v Speaker 2>according to doctor Prinz, and an attack on your privacy

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<v Speaker 2>may well affect your ability to spend money when and

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<v Speaker 2>how you see fit. Soon, something as simple as buying

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<v Speaker 2>a cup of coffee could cause some alarms to go

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<v Speaker 2>off inside the irs. Crazy right, Huge changes are coming

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<v Speaker 2>this summer, and it could be as early as this month.

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<v Speaker 2>You should get the facts and go to this website

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<v Speaker 2>now Disappearing dollar dot com. That's Disappearing dollar dot com

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<v Speaker 2>paid for by rogue economics. Stephen, What can be done

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<v Speaker 2>so there's actual enforcement of the Supreme Court's decision, very

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<v Speaker 2>clear decision that you cannot do discrimination on the basis

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<v Speaker 2>of race, no matter how much people think it may

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<v Speaker 2>be a nice idea or not.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, So this is an area where conservatives need to

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<v Speaker 1>do better, where in the past you've won these big

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<v Speaker 1>Supreme Court rulings and then we've done nothing to actually

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<v Speaker 1>enforce and follow up on those rulings. So, as you

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<v Speaker 1>may remember, some years ago, we won the first iteration

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean we in the global sense. The movement

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<v Speaker 1>won the first iteration of the of the forcing a

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<v Speaker 1>baker to bake some of they don't want a bake case, right,

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<v Speaker 1>remember that case where there was the bakers.

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<v Speaker 2>This is less of course ten now, right, wasn't the

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<v Speaker 2>guy Gibson the cakes or something? Yeah, go ahead, and

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<v Speaker 2>the Masterpiece cake shop and Masterpiece cake Shop? Sorry sorry yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And he was and he won the case. He won

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<v Speaker 1>the case. It was like ten years ago. Now I

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<v Speaker 1>get the years wrong a little bit right, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was a long time ago. And thinking about the ten

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<v Speaker 1>years since then, the the trans movement has dominated us more.

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<v Speaker 1>The lgbt q A plus plus movement has dominated us

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<v Speaker 1>more at every facet.

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<v Speaker 3>Of American life, because even though they lost.

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<v Speaker 1>The case, the left kept going with the law fair

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<v Speaker 1>harassing every employer across the country to implement their agenda,

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<v Speaker 1>and conservatives popular shait pain is oh, look, we won

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<v Speaker 1>the case, now let's move on. So what my organization

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<v Speaker 1>is doing is saying, okay, we want the Supreme Court CAAs.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we globally conservatives and Americans secure about these issues, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but now we have to enforce the damn thing. So

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<v Speaker 1>we need Americans across this country. We see discrimination both

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<v Speaker 1>in the university and in the workplace. To contact us

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<v Speaker 1>so that if you have out claim we can represent you,

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<v Speaker 1>or if you have valid information, then we can follow

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<v Speaker 1>up on it and find a willing plaintiff. So we

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<v Speaker 1>launched a hotline one eight seven seven AFL five four

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<v Speaker 1>or five four one eight seven seven AFL five four

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<v Speaker 1>or five four, or you can just go to our

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<v Speaker 1>website aflegal dot org and write us there. And we

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<v Speaker 1>are saying to all Americans, if you see racism in

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<v Speaker 1>the workplace, if you see racism in your graduate school,

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<v Speaker 1>if you see racism in your undergraduate college or university,

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<v Speaker 1>contact us. Tell us what has happened. If there's an

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<v Speaker 1>actionable claim, we want to pursue it. This is how

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to actually change things in the real world,

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<v Speaker 1>because we all know the universities are going to try

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<v Speaker 1>to program around it, the colleges are going to try

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<v Speaker 1>to program around it. Every educational institution, and certainly every

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<v Speaker 1>major corporate institution of America is going to try to

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<v Speaker 1>program around it. The only way you stop them, the

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<v Speaker 1>only way you beat them, is by taking them to court,

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<v Speaker 1>not once, not twice, not three times, but over and

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<v Speaker 1>over and over again until you legally beat them into submission.

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<v Speaker 3>In our court system.

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<v Speaker 2>Stephen Miller of America First Legal. What's what's the website?

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen af legal dot org, af legal dot org.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for all the work you're doing, sir. Thanks

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<v Speaker 2>for making time for a year. Appreciated