Speaker 1: Y'all know who El Chappo is. He's uh seeing a
Speaker 1: lot of crime cartel. I'm kind of smiling when I
Speaker 1: say this because, like you know, Chappo's final den Maize
Speaker 1: was a little comical. He's nothing to laugh about, you know.
Speaker 1: He's I mean, is the one of the most notorious
Speaker 1: like Escobar level Mexican crime cartel bosses. I mean just
Speaker 1: he wiled the sene Lot cartel. Look, you know, floating
Speaker 1: bodies ashore and dangling from street signs like they was.
Speaker 1: They was wild. Uh, And you shouldn't know because like
Speaker 1: Narcos Season three is in a lot of ways, it's
Speaker 1: about Chapo. Um if you watch that type of stuff. Anyway,
Speaker 1: it's kind of funny because like one of the things
Speaker 1: Choppo is known for he kept escaping from prison. He
Speaker 1: you know, we're just like figured out tunnels and you
Speaker 1: know a lot of the tunnels through you know, the
Speaker 1: border down south like that was Choppo. And then they
Speaker 1: did that, you know what I'm saying. Um, But then
Speaker 1: he asked for this like interview with this actress and
Speaker 1: Sean Penn just this weird thing that happened at the end.
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, but Anyway, Choppo finally got his
Speaker 1: come upings towards the end. But the thing about Choppo
Speaker 1: is that he just kept getting away with He just
Speaker 1: kept he kept escaping from prison like it was just
Speaker 1: you know, his drug game crazy. He just kept escaping.
Speaker 1: And it's it's not funny because of the thousands of
Speaker 1: lives that were ended because of him at all. That is,
Speaker 1: it's awful, just the brutality of it all. But that
Speaker 1: man just kept kept getting away. He just kept just
Speaker 1: they lock about he'd be free, like you just can't couldn't.
Speaker 1: They couldn't hold him in a sale. Oh man, add
Speaker 1: might like I just always have money. Ready, let's talk
Speaker 1: about the Sackler family farmer produce hood politics right now?
Speaker 1: Who politics, y'all? Hood politics? Yo? This show called Choppo Wetto.
Speaker 1: I don't know why it today. It was so funny
Speaker 1: to beat what I do because wetto is uh, you know,
Speaker 1: it's slang for like white boys, So like wet o
Speaker 1: wet that's like you know, white boy, white girl, and
Speaker 1: the animalogy of that we just don't have time for.
Speaker 1: But it's slang like sometimes drive what's double about? Like
Speaker 1: like cholo kind of Mexican slang and even just Spanish
Speaker 1: in general, like a lot of the same words can
Speaker 1: scale in intensity and vulgarity, pending on the context. Because
Speaker 1: my wife's family they from southern Mexico, from Alca Poco,
Speaker 1: so they are mostly because of the transatlantic slave trade.
Speaker 1: They're mostly pretty dark skinned down there. My wife, however,
Speaker 1: of the dark skinned are on. She's one of the
Speaker 1: lighter ones in her family. Now, she ain't light at all,
Speaker 1: especially when she get to America. Like, no, that's a
Speaker 1: brown girl, you know what I'm saying. But her granddaddy
Speaker 1: black as hell, like he's a black man. So they
Speaker 1: call her wetto like in her family, you know, saying
Speaker 1: like or not wet, a wetter they called her wetter
Speaker 1: like uh when she go when we went down to
Speaker 1: getto in Acapolca, they were like what I what I
Speaker 1: They were calling her wetter because like to them, she
Speaker 1: fair skinned, you know what I'm saying. It's like anyway,
Speaker 1: so they don't mean it as a disk, but sometimes
Speaker 1: they do. You feel me, Sometimes we do, or sometimes
Speaker 1: it's like I don't know, it's just anyway, I'm off topic.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about this crime cartel family like them at
Speaker 1: drug dealers. I listen, this is you talking white version
Speaker 1: of Escobard. The colleague Cart said, l niggad a drug dealers.
Speaker 1: There's another way where they pushers. These are cara fuls
Speaker 1: like they're it's drugs. I'm talking about the Sackler family.
Speaker 1: It's just the difference is these drugs was legal and
Speaker 1: they just having to get away with it until now.
Speaker 1: But then they still kind of got away with it,
Speaker 1: which is why I'm calling these folks chop old weddow.
Speaker 1: Now let's get to it. So I'm talking about the
Speaker 1: opo yoid epidemic in recent court cases. I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you some recent court cases, and I don't want to
Speaker 1: back up talk to you about the Sacler family itself
Speaker 1: talking about the war on drugs, talk about kind of hood.
Speaker 1: Can tell you how we knew this was gonna play out?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, How if white supremacy wasn't
Speaker 1: such a thing, then maybe we could have guided each
Speaker 1: other through navigating this moment. Because we didn't win through
Speaker 1: this war on drugs. We know, we know, we know
Speaker 1: what happened when an institution pushes a product onto our
Speaker 1: community convinces us this the only way out and then
Speaker 1: punishes us for actually using the product you sold us.
Speaker 1: I mean this, y'all call it the opioid epidemic. We
Speaker 1: called it the crack attack. The only difference is we
Speaker 1: ended up in jail for forty years. Yeah, I mean systemic, y'all. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna walk y'all through. I'm talking about the sketch,
Speaker 1: what the difference between schedule one schedule to narcotic and
Speaker 1: what this now means for the future of jail, justice
Speaker 1: and sentencing. So this is gonna be a pretty dense one.
Speaker 1: But the sacklers, I'm a quote from an NPR article. Oh,
Speaker 1: there's also a show Hulu show called Dope Sick that
Speaker 1: kind of talks a little bit more about the opioid epidemic,
Speaker 1: which is just essentially white people crack attack like that.
Speaker 1: I don't know as sucks, but I mean as it's
Speaker 1: hard to not look from the inner cities and look
Speaker 1: at what happened to y'all and be like, oh, nay,
Speaker 1: we know how this play out, your hope saying Anyway,
Speaker 1: although there are a lot of like you know, um,
Speaker 1: these are broad strokes. There's a lot of things that
Speaker 1: aren't one to one ratios that are are not fair
Speaker 1: for me to say it's that simple because it's not.
Speaker 1: And I mean, come on, now, how we do this show?
Speaker 1: It's only thirty minutes long, like we you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like, there's only so much nuance if you
Speaker 1: feel me I can give you. And I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that to give myself off the hook. I don't know
Speaker 1: why I'm giving this long explanation. The point is is
Speaker 1: a very complicated concept. It's kind of like the what
Speaker 1: we did, the like the U Outside episode with Israel
Speaker 1: and Palestine, and then like the Fear of the clap
Speaker 1: Back one about the Armenian genocide. Uh. These are nuanced,
Speaker 1: complicated concepts that in a lot of ways I'm not
Speaker 1: doing them justice. But uh, I still think if you
Speaker 1: understand the hood, you understand politics. So here we go.
Speaker 1: The Sacklers made billions from oxycotton, Fenton all and all
Speaker 1: these different opioids that we're in, these painkillers that has
Speaker 1: decimated Middle America. You know now, And when I say
Speaker 1: Middle America, okay, that's okay. Let me there's another disclaimer.
Speaker 1: It's other people besides white people. That live in Middle America.
Speaker 1: I mean, Kansas City is in Middle America. Just it's
Speaker 1: it's a gang of black people with Ganga City it's
Speaker 1: gang of Latinos. Again. Anyway, that's I'm off point. But Oxycotton,
Speaker 1: as we know like that, then that's stuff. Stuff killed y'all,
Speaker 1: White Fox Boy. It ran through y'all's hood like crack
Speaker 1: ran through ours. Why because it's freakishly addictive, unbelievably addictive,
Speaker 1: and it's hard I'd be hard pressed to say that
Speaker 1: there is not of all the listeners of his show
Speaker 1: that like there's a high percentage of y'all that either
Speaker 1: struggle with it or have lost somebody or got some
Speaker 1: damn homies over over this stuff, or people in jail
Speaker 1: over addictions, which I'm getting ahead of myself because I'm
Speaker 1: gonna talking about, like when why is it a crime
Speaker 1: to be addicted? You know that's that's Isn't that a
Speaker 1: health issue? Not criminals? Size point? So anyway, Uh, the
Speaker 1: way that crime and punishment is supposed to work is
Speaker 1: if I mean, you lie to the public about a product,
Speaker 1: so the product knowing full well it was gonna cause
Speaker 1: the type of damage as he caused you're pushing something.
Speaker 1: You know it's deadly. You the p sure, so you
Speaker 1: know the cornerboy up to the connect, up to the pusher,
Speaker 1: up to the supply. Y'all are supposed to go to jail.
Speaker 1: Who posted get the most time? Is the supply the pusher?
Speaker 1: You need to pay for this, like you didn't cause
Speaker 1: ear reversible damage in multiple millions of famioun billions, but
Speaker 1: multiple families, just you're criminally liable to which the sacklers
Speaker 1: were like, yeah, but we broke though, so they was like, look,
Speaker 1: I ain't got it. Yeah, these billionaires was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I ain't got it. So uh, maybe if you could
Speaker 1: sue the company Perdue Pharma, which they owned, but us
Speaker 1: personally we bankrupt. We ain't got it. You have a
Speaker 1: loan superce somebody owe your money and they're like, yo,
Speaker 1: I ain't got it, but I put something on it.
Speaker 1: Like that's that's real. Oh it's cool. It's like look man,
Speaker 1: let me Yeah, I put something on it. Hey, listen
Speaker 1: to help me. You know, there's some people you should
Speaker 1: never borrow money from, or you should never loan money too,
Speaker 1: because you ain't gonna get your money. You ain't gonna
Speaker 1: get it back. You just just know it's a gift.
Speaker 1: They ain't gonna have it. And then other people you know,
Speaker 1: got it, they're just not giving it to you. Ah, man,
Speaker 1: I got you. I'm gonna get you next week. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get you next week. Some nice shoes you got there, big,
Speaker 1: I've seen you at the club blowing some honey. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. He blew a bottle of heney.
Speaker 1: He was in v I P talking about you ain't
Speaker 1: got the money you owe me. Though, So in a
Speaker 1: civil suit they declared bankruptcy and now they have one
Speaker 1: immunity from opioid lawsuits. M niggas is a meal. They
Speaker 1: don't have to pay the company d but they don't.
Speaker 1: And then it gets even crazier because not only did
Speaker 1: the pusher, but now also the corner boys. And in
Speaker 1: this situation, the corner boys ain't a boy. It's CVS,
Speaker 1: Walgreens and Walmart they held liable. That's crazy. This is
Speaker 1: like this would mean like, okay, something else going on
Speaker 1: here now in the streets. We would know that, Like
Speaker 1: you know, if you get caught with intent to sell,
Speaker 1: unless you give up your connect, you know, you complete
Speaker 1: for for for a you know, a lower sentence if
Speaker 1: you give up the connect. But you know if you
Speaker 1: give a connect dyeing right, you know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: like that you can give up the connect. You feel me,
Speaker 1: you just have somebody like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You got popped. You keep your mouth shut because when
Speaker 1: you get back, when you get back out on the streets,
Speaker 1: you want to be able to like put on again.
Speaker 1: You wanna be able to get back up. You know
Speaker 1: you down, use up, you down now you wanna be
Speaker 1: able to get back up when you get back out,
Speaker 1: right I'm saying right like like you know this al right,
Speaker 1: but anyway you get popped like you you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like, you gotta like you know, you just
Speaker 1: do your time and just hope everything work out right.
Speaker 1: But you're going to jail in this situation. I didn't
Speaker 1: think you could put I didn't think the story. I
Speaker 1: didn't think that the cornerboy CVS. Walgreens would be would
Speaker 1: have to like pony up. They got a pony up,
Speaker 1: and they their definition was like fam or not. Their
Speaker 1: definition Their defense was like fam, we're not, We're not.
Speaker 1: The doctors were just the store. You tell us what
Speaker 1: it's our job to figure out if this we just
Speaker 1: I'm just the store, fam you feisota store. We ain't
Speaker 1: that we y'all prescribed it. Somebody walk in with a prescription.
Speaker 1: It's just our job to give. You give the person
Speaker 1: what you told us to get him. We're proposed to
Speaker 1: notice is bad. They said, you shows you're making money
Speaker 1: off all this and when money and hands is exchanged,
Speaker 1: big on me, Like obviously, look so somebody gotta pay.
Speaker 1: And what you're seeing right here, somebody used to say
Speaker 1: all the time, Hey, listen, bosses don't go to jail.
Speaker 1: Bosses figured it out. Bosses are they go out in
Speaker 1: the blaze of glory, big homie these look just look
Speaker 1: what old wet dot got active dog. They was like, oh,
Speaker 1: we ain't got it, but you can shoot. You can
Speaker 1: see the business though business got this much? Why would
Speaker 1: you do that? Because you can't go back because the
Speaker 1: name burnt, You can't go back to being produced farmer
Speaker 1: and you get after something like this, So go ahead
Speaker 1: and burn the name. You don't say were good, but
Speaker 1: gonna burn the name? It don't that don't make sense
Speaker 1: to you? That makes perfect sense to be That's what
Speaker 1: that's what they did. Okay, now let me I'm jumping
Speaker 1: all over the place because this is so thick. So
Speaker 1: the Sackler family is the founders of the company Perdue Farmer.
Speaker 1: Who are the people responsible for dropping these opioids on
Speaker 1: our streets? But let's go back. We got to go
Speaker 1: back a lot of ways. Let's go back. First of all,
Speaker 1: two the concept of pain. Let's take a break. All right, Yo,
Speaker 1: we're back, man. I hope y'all. Uh shout out Headlights,
Speaker 1: matt Our, salt Ski. I think that was close enough.
Speaker 1: Uh Yo, these tracks are brand new man. He I
Speaker 1: mean he do them every week. I want to shout
Speaker 1: to hem, y'all, y'all hearing all these like scoring he
Speaker 1: didn't put out a record. He he didn't put out
Speaker 1: his like his playlist. We're gonna try to get some
Speaker 1: of these songs placed in other places. But like, man,
Speaker 1: tell that food like drop the album. Do them like
Speaker 1: you do them, like y'all doing West Side Boogie, Like
Speaker 1: hey dropped the album. So I saw I'll be like,
Speaker 1: every time he shows me a new track, I'll be like,
Speaker 1: drop the album anyway. Uh, he's at Headlights Underscore music
Speaker 1: and tell him drop the album. Um have be so
Speaker 1: funny as that dropped the album for just bombless fools
Speaker 1: Instagram anyway. Okay, so for most of medical history, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm dead serious. For most of medical history, pain was
Speaker 1: not a prescribed thing. It's a diagnosed thing. Pain is
Speaker 1: not a thing. Pain is what happens when a thing
Speaker 1: is wrong. This is it's the it's the indicator. It's
Speaker 1: not the thing. It's the indicator of the thing. You
Speaker 1: don't treat pain. Pain is the signal that tells you
Speaker 1: you have to treat something. Are you you're following me?
Speaker 1: So there was no pain medicine. There was no pain
Speaker 1: killers other than whiskey, you know, or just getting high, right,
Speaker 1: But like that, it wasn't a thing. So even when
Speaker 1: you go to the doctor and they give you a
Speaker 1: scale of like on a scale of one, it's end
Speaker 1: like what's your pain level? Like somebody had to think
Speaker 1: of that. And it's pretty modern because pain it wasn't.
Speaker 1: You don't prescribe it. It's if you fall and you
Speaker 1: break your arm. You don't go my arm hurts, You
Speaker 1: go my arm's broken. God need to I need to
Speaker 1: fix the bone. Don't fix the the pain goes away
Speaker 1: when you fix the problem. That seems pretty logical, right,
Speaker 1: But then there was things like chronic pain, right, because
Speaker 1: some stuff is not fixable. When you have a chronic disease,
Speaker 1: that which means it's not going away, something like arthritis,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, tendonitis, different types of things
Speaker 1: that happen to our bodies that are just they're not
Speaker 1: going away, Like there is no treating it. All you
Speaker 1: could do is try to live your life, and the
Speaker 1: way to do that is to reduce the pain. So
Speaker 1: that's when pain became a thing. So Perdue Pharma, this company,
Speaker 1: uh basically the parents of the Sacklers that we know of.
Speaker 1: They had this idea, uh that said, well, nobody's out
Speaker 1: here dealing with chronic pain. There's no there's nothing on
Speaker 1: the market just for the pain. Of course Thailand all
Speaker 1: bear and stuff like that, right, but like just just
Speaker 1: it's a pain pill. What if and they had this
Speaker 1: idea like, okay, this is back at six, what if
Speaker 1: we uh just treat the pain because pain sucks. We
Speaker 1: already have this like slow release opioid, but what if
Speaker 1: we like make it to where it's not as clearly
Speaker 1: an opium and have it kind of slow releasy, and
Speaker 1: we could do it in pill form and it won't
Speaker 1: be as quote unquote addictive because it's slow release. Like
Speaker 1: you can to be addicted to something that's slow released.
Speaker 1: Is the logic they said out loud, and painkillers in
Speaker 1: oxycotton hits the streets. Now why this is so crazy
Speaker 1: is because Nigga, it's opium, Like it's an old u
Speaker 1: uh poppy plant Afghanistan, it's opium. You remember opium. You
Speaker 1: remember all them old pictures and old racist pictures of
Speaker 1: Chinese people leaning back on the tapestry with the smoke
Speaker 1: that was called opium dens. So if you smoked opium,
Speaker 1: it was considered to be I'm using these racial terms oriental, Asiatic.
Speaker 1: It was Eastern, you know what I'm saying. So this
Speaker 1: idea of like they're just smoking the stuff, so like
Speaker 1: that version of opium was not supposed to be that
Speaker 1: was that was low class. But if it's in a
Speaker 1: pill form a look different. As as a side, there's
Speaker 1: an interesting site note the first people to get addicted
Speaker 1: to doctor prescribed drugs, which at the time was opium
Speaker 1: or Southern white women. It I'm pausing for effect they
Speaker 1: were that. I mean that was the first like drug outbreak.
Speaker 1: Why well, because their husbands were out at war, their
Speaker 1: sons were coming back in body bags, and they had
Speaker 1: enough money to go to the doctor to prescribe what
Speaker 1: they used to call the melanchoeagues when you were just
Speaker 1: you were just sad. So then they give them these
Speaker 1: little little hits, these little happy things too cheer them up.
Speaker 1: They were actually the first to be addicted to the
Speaker 1: do you google? Very interesting thing, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But like it's different when it's high class and you're
Speaker 1: not just a druggie you have the melancholies. Oh God,
Speaker 1: telling y'all man, there's no there is no end of
Speaker 1: the black hole of inequalities in our country anyway. Um,
Speaker 1: So back to this deal. So that's so that's the
Speaker 1: history of like of of a pain killer, right is
Speaker 1: like it's made up. It's it's opium that you're supposed
Speaker 1: to be non addictive, which as we know, fast forward
Speaker 1: a year and a half now and it's super addictive,
Speaker 1: matter of fact, more addictive than and then in the
Speaker 1: rest of them and the Saclo family and Produe Farma
Speaker 1: purposefully hit that content and those researching like it was
Speaker 1: on purpose. They didn't tell nobody because they drug dealers.
Speaker 1: So since now you know, the opio has been recognition
Speaker 1: reck in the woods, you know, smashing everybody. So but
Speaker 1: this federal Judge, Robert Draine approved the bankruptcy settlement a
Speaker 1: couple of wednesdays ago that grant the Sackler's global peace
Speaker 1: from any liability from the opioid epidemic. They got their
Speaker 1: choppo on because though he himself, the judge himself was like,
Speaker 1: this is trash, but I mean, what can I say,
Speaker 1: which again is another argument of how great our justice
Speaker 1: system works. Rich and guilty or you poor and innocent.
Speaker 1: Look rich and guilty, you good? Anyway? Um, they still
Speaker 1: the Sacklers still ain't apologized, They still denied all wrongdoing.
Speaker 1: They was like, man, it sucks, that sucks that y'all died,
Speaker 1: But you know, I mean, we didn't pinion down and
Speaker 1: put it in your army. You know what I'm saying. Um,
Speaker 1: But yeah, no opioid lawsuits now perdue. Pharma itself played guilty.
Speaker 1: The company, the Corporation which cordin Old Mitch McConnell Corporations
Speaker 1: of People. The Corporation got to plead guilty. But the
Speaker 1: Sacklers themselves are free in the clear. Now let's learn
Speaker 1: a little bit about the Sacklers themselves. Now, the Cacler
Speaker 1: family come from the descendants of Isaac Sackler and his
Speaker 1: wife Sophie, the Jewish immigrants um to the United States
Speaker 1: from Ukraine and Poland and anyway, they established this grocery
Speaker 1: business in Brooklyn. He had three sons, Arthur more to
Speaker 1: More and Raymond Sackler. They went to medical school and
Speaker 1: they became psycho psychiatrists. Right. Uh. They were often cited
Speaker 1: as like early pioneers, Like, I mean, all this stuff
Speaker 1: is super Wikipedia easy to find, right, But they were
Speaker 1: early innovators of a lot of medical techniques which became
Speaker 1: common practice, like lombotomies, like cutting brains opened. Right. Um.
Speaker 1: They were actually first to fight for racial integration in
Speaker 1: blood banks. I mean it's complicated, right. Then they bought
Speaker 1: this small fart summutical company produced Frederick and Raymond and
Speaker 1: more and More ran Perdue while author of their younger
Speaker 1: brother became a pioneer and like medical advertising, follow me,
Speaker 1: one dude new to science, the other dude new to marketing.
Speaker 1: What a perfect, perfect, perfect perfect combo. So then, like
Speaker 1: I said in Perdue Farmer, uh introduced oxycotton. It's a
Speaker 1: version of oxycoding reformulate. It's a slow release, right, and
Speaker 1: it was heavily promoted. Why because they know how to
Speaker 1: push weight. Well, I tell you about Cornball. I tell
Speaker 1: you about this whole time, this thing like you know
Speaker 1: your your your street Hustler is a brilliant marketer. They're
Speaker 1: brilliant business people. They just in a thing that the
Speaker 1: company that the country don't respect. It's just they should
Speaker 1: just should have sold different drugs, because then Produce Farmer
Speaker 1: would have been you know, uh Jenkins and Gonzalez. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I don't know. The point is,
Speaker 1: uh WHOI la amazing marketing, incredible addictive product, get you
Speaker 1: the opioid epidemic. So they heavily produced it. Then Elizabeth Sackler,
Speaker 1: which is the daughter of Arthur Sackler, claimed that her
Speaker 1: branch of the family did not practice or benefit by
Speaker 1: the sales of narcotics. Uh NIGGD. I don't know how
Speaker 1: you couldn't have. But everybody who's watching this, everybody who
Speaker 1: lost somebody, everybody who was empowered. I was watching this
Speaker 1: was like on their head, like, no, nigga, we know
Speaker 1: what the hell you did. And while a lot of
Speaker 1: the opioid crisis because the stuff was so addictive and
Speaker 1: it was so easy to get and you can get
Speaker 1: high quick, get high easy, and you could just go
Speaker 1: to the store. Can you like you just went to
Speaker 1: the store and got it, while I opio epidemic. And
Speaker 1: again I can't stress this enough. I am not doing
Speaker 1: this justice right. But they were in the process and
Speaker 1: really succeeding on selling legal drugs which were more deadly
Speaker 1: than a lot of drugs that are at the time
Speaker 1: not legal, Which gets us to the next part is
Speaker 1: how do you decide what's the difference between a medicine
Speaker 1: pharmaceutic cool or a narcotic drug? Dance? After this? Yea,
Speaker 1: all right, Now you may have heard these phrases before,
Speaker 1: but they're called the scheduling of narcotics. Right now, this
Speaker 1: is at you could go, I mean any any you
Speaker 1: know food and Drug Administration, any drug any uh you know?
Speaker 1: Now sal database about the scheduling of drugs that helps
Speaker 1: you understand how they decide and what the criteria is
Speaker 1: to decide which is which. Now the I'm gonna start
Speaker 1: on the bottom so you can understand the scheduling. A.
Speaker 1: Schedule five narcotic is robot using like cough, sir, like
Speaker 1: robotusing you know what I'm saying. Uh, motor fin which
Speaker 1: is like motoring stuff like that basic over the counter.
Speaker 1: Schedule four those are Zannies. They got some issues, but
Speaker 1: it's fine ambient volume, right. So ma, these are drugs
Speaker 1: that you need. Obviously you need to. You shouldn't be
Speaker 1: popping Zanni's for fun. You know, you can ask lotsan
Speaker 1: that's a that's a young person joke. Schedule three tailing
Speaker 1: all with codeine, antibiolic steroids, and testosterone. Okay, now we're
Speaker 1: getting a little more like y'all you need to pay
Speaker 1: attention to what you're doing. But this stuff still over
Speaker 1: the over the counter. Now watch this. Schedule two. Okay,
Speaker 1: cocaine meth oxy coding adderall rittling and vicating. So these
Speaker 1: is like, okay, we're getting serious. You're telling me that cocaine,
Speaker 1: meth and oxy coding are not even number one my nigga.
Speaker 1: Day number two cocaine meth oxycoding adderall rittling. So the
Speaker 1: schedules have to do with the amount of regulation, right,
Speaker 1: and which is a crime or not? Okay, So obviously
Speaker 1: once you get into the meth and coding, you know,
Speaker 1: meth cocaine, like, okay, this is a crime. You can't
Speaker 1: just be having this. You want to know if the
Speaker 1: number one Schedule one narcotic is marijuana, heroin, l s D, ecstasy,
Speaker 1: in magic, mushrooms. Does that list seem arbitrary to you?
Speaker 1: Does that list seem like maybe it's not based in science,
Speaker 1: Maybe it has much more to do the politics then science.
Speaker 1: You're telling me, y'all gotten married, y'all got merry, y'all
Speaker 1: got weed. You could uber eats weed. They gets an
Speaker 1: app called ease out here in California. Are you could
Speaker 1: like that deliver it to the crib? Marijuana is on
Speaker 1: the same line as heroin. You're telling me, what's the
Speaker 1: scientific basis that you got cocaine as less dangerous? There's
Speaker 1: some pot? You know what The answer is, There isn't
Speaker 1: any You got no scientific bevaness to prove. Why didn't
Speaker 1: get and why? Of all these words? Why is one
Speaker 1: of them? In Spanish? Marijuana is the Spanish word for cannabis. Why?
Speaker 1: Why all the other stuff? Why are you calling it that? Well,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you why. I'm glad you asked, uh Nixon mixings,
Speaker 1: why you're calling this calling it that and it's fucking racist? Why?
Speaker 1: Uh one, Well, maddie Juana is the Spanish word from it,
Speaker 1: and it was coming up from Mexico, So there's that.
Speaker 1: But we do it was called cannabis when it was
Speaker 1: called pot. We knew we had other names for this stuff,
Speaker 1: but yeah, it was coming up from Mexico, right, Um,
Speaker 1: But the idea was, when you're launching the war on drugs,
Speaker 1: you attach these drugs with the people that you also
Speaker 1: don't want to round. So you're calling marijuana. Uh this
Speaker 1: marketing you call it marijuana. I mean, google me, fact
Speaker 1: check me. You call it marijuana for the purpose of
Speaker 1: making it seem, according to them, low class and exotic.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like it's dirty. There's madikuana.
Speaker 1: It sounds more evil than just just pot. While at
Speaker 1: the same time, again do your Google's. The United States
Speaker 1: of America holds all future patents for any medicine that
Speaker 1: comes out of marijuana research to this day, they've had
Speaker 1: it for decades, while at the same time keeping it
Speaker 1: a schedule one. Now why is it staying in schedule one?
Speaker 1: Because you have to do uh, federally funded research to
Speaker 1: prove that, hey, this is actually very beneficial to us.
Speaker 1: Now you again. Now I'll scroll down to the magical
Speaker 1: mushroom stuff, to the LSD, to the ecstasy extasy. I
Speaker 1: ain't got no science on that one. But the LSD
Speaker 1: and the magic must froom like cybercillin and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: like that stuff has been proven with people to deal
Speaker 1: with PTSD and and um really bad like head traumas
Speaker 1: um to help, right that. I mean, that's what you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of psychedelics have shown that, like, yeah, they
Speaker 1: help with stuff like that. Like there's a I'll drop
Speaker 1: some um. I don't have to drop him. I can
Speaker 1: tell you her name. Now, hold on Suzanne Sicily. She's
Speaker 1: at Humble Institutes for Interdisciplinary Marijuana Research. It's actually a
Speaker 1: brilliant lady. Ive seen him speak at this thing up
Speaker 1: in Eating Prayer, Utah, I believe it or not, I
Speaker 1: was up there with the white boys. That thing costs summit.
Speaker 1: It's incredible. Anyway. Yeah, she's done a bunch of research
Speaker 1: with um vets, with with war vets dealing with serious
Speaker 1: PTSD and like, look up her research. It's like, yo,
Speaker 1: she works, y'all right, but without getting too far in
Speaker 1: the weeds. Um, there's only one university that is uh
Speaker 1: federally proved two. Build all your test studies for two
Speaker 1: prove that marijuana is a useful medicine. But it's you
Speaker 1: have to do it from this stuff that's like powder
Speaker 1: form that's all stem and like something you've never smoked,
Speaker 1: Like no one it's like dirt weed, Like no one
Speaker 1: would smoke this. It's so it's like you're already starting
Speaker 1: with like the worst possible strand ever. But like like
Speaker 1: this is a billion dollar industry, like come on now, uh,
Speaker 1: but it's still federally schedule one. Like yeah, I wonder,
Speaker 1: I wonder why you know what else is not on
Speaker 1: this list is you may think it's crack, but again,
Speaker 1: crack is if you don't know this crack is actually
Speaker 1: just cheap versions of cocaine. Um. But then we could
Speaker 1: talk about the eighteen and one laws, and I don't
Speaker 1: want to get into that. This is about choppo, right,
Speaker 1: So yeah, here I'm gonna quote from from this uh
Speaker 1: vox article about the scheduling of narcotics. So the War
Speaker 1: on drugs was initiated when much of the nation was
Speaker 1: in hysterics about what drugs will do to the quote
Speaker 1: normal fabric of our country. Y'all know what the quote means. UM,
Speaker 1: it may be helpful to think of scheduling system as
Speaker 1: made up of two distinct groups, the non medical and
Speaker 1: the medical. The non medical compromises the Schedule one drugs,
Speaker 1: which are considered to have no medical value or high
Speaker 1: potential for abuse. The medical group comprised in Schedules two
Speaker 1: through five, which have some medical value and are numerically
Speaker 1: rank based on the abuse potential. Uh, there are some
Speaker 1: cultural considerations in the scheduling system. The War on drugs
Speaker 1: was initiated at a time which minist of the nation
Speaker 1: was in hysterics about what drugs like marijuana, cannabis, and
Speaker 1: LSD would do to the fabric, the moral fabric of
Speaker 1: our country. Marijuana was seen as dangerous, but not necessarily
Speaker 1: because of its direct health benefits, but it's perception partially
Speaker 1: rooted in racial injustices. The pot makes people immoral, lazy,
Speaker 1: and even violent. Wait makes your violet. I don't know
Speaker 1: what we drew had. The perception persists among many supporters
Speaker 1: of the War on drugs to this day, and it's
Speaker 1: still reflected in America's drug scheduling. Beyond the scheduling system,
Speaker 1: the federal government imposes criminal trafficking penalties on drugs that
Speaker 1: are not always aligned with their scheduling. For instance, marijuana
Speaker 1: trafficking is generally punished less for less since severely than cocaine.
Speaker 1: U states governments set up their own criminal penalties and
Speaker 1: schedules for drugs as well. So that's the way to
Speaker 1: think about drugs scheduling. Now back to our situation we're
Speaker 1: dealing with here with the perdue farm of family, all right,
Speaker 1: the Sacular family, Perdue farm of country. They're dealing with
Speaker 1: a schedule to drug on the line with Riddling and
Speaker 1: Viking and lied about its degree of potential of abuse,
Speaker 1: right because they said it was non addictive. Clearly it
Speaker 1: is and decimated our country. I keep I want to
Speaker 1: keep saying this to you. It decimated our country. And
Speaker 1: now they're not liable. They were able to declare bankrupt
Speaker 1: and they got to be l Choppo out this mug
Speaker 1: now more LA's story. Bosses don't go to jail, and
Speaker 1: especially boss white people unless the white people to start
Speaker 1: deciding you sucking up the money. So what did they do?
Speaker 1: They put the baby to sleep? You kill the company.
Speaker 1: The company played guilty. You can always start a new company. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's you can always bounce back. Last night took a hell,
Speaker 1: but tonight I'll bounced back. You get your chopow. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Let him put you down, you
Speaker 1: get out. You be all right? Now, what's our takeaway?
Speaker 1: Our takeaway is this, there are a lot of young
Speaker 1: families who found themselves with the cousin and uncle auntie,
Speaker 1: somebody facing severe criminal charges over the use of these opioids.
Speaker 1: Now these people are in lawsuits against the companies and
Speaker 1: the retail outlets for which put these drugs in their hands. Right,
Speaker 1: what we've said time and time again about being abolitionists,
Speaker 1: about being about criminal justice reform, is you're penalizing a
Speaker 1: person for there biology reacting the way that our biology
Speaker 1: would when you put an addictive substance in it. If
Speaker 1: you take cocaine in crack form, you are going to
Speaker 1: be addicted. That's just it's our biology. If you're taking opioids,
Speaker 1: you're going to be addicted. Addiction can't be criminal. Y'all,
Speaker 1: Like that's just now, what you do when you're high,
Speaker 1: that's a different story. Then you've committed a crime. But
Speaker 1: having a possession of a drug that's clearly addictive. We
Speaker 1: got to rethink this, and especially when the person that
Speaker 1: put it in my hands it's not criminally liable. Some
Speaker 1: may write, I mean, I'm just what does that mean
Speaker 1: to us? That mean that, Like, well, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of non violent offenders sitting in the prisons right now
Speaker 1: that some states have let go, have expunge charges, like
Speaker 1: a lot of like, uh, marijuana charges, David, let go,
Speaker 1: because I mean this it is legal in most states.
Speaker 1: Like this is crazy, Like why are you still in
Speaker 1: jail for this? That's number one. Number two. Maybe we
Speaker 1: need to interrogate the entire system itself. Maybe somebody needs
Speaker 1: to get into office and think about what do how
Speaker 1: who decided these schedulings, and how can we change this?
Speaker 1: Do I do we have a say in how drugs
Speaker 1: are scheduled? Because clearly this these choices are cultural. They're
Speaker 1: not scientific, right, They're not. It's not based on this
Speaker 1: ain't based on science, obviously, it's based on lobbyists. I mean,
Speaker 1: I just based on American fears. What the article just said,
Speaker 1: and finally, we need to figure out a way to
Speaker 1: hold those that are accountable accountable. How do we do
Speaker 1: that from the hood, Well, I don't know. I know
Speaker 1: war on drugs felt like the war on the poor.
Speaker 1: I know this opioid epidemic feel real similar. And I'll
Speaker 1: be honest with you, I was hoping that this would
Speaker 1: have been a bridge across supremacy to say, man, let's listen, listen, listen, listen,
Speaker 1: You're being crushed by the same system. I am. This
Speaker 1: This why, this is why I always pushed back when
Speaker 1: people say, when you talk about white supremacy, that mean
Speaker 1: you hate white people. I'm like you, you you can't
Speaker 1: you white people crushed by white supremacy too. It it's
Speaker 1: hurting you too, just like you can't. Power loves power.
Speaker 1: It's hurting you too. You should be chatting just as
Speaker 1: loud as we are, because it's hurting you too. They've
Speaker 1: finna get off, y'all. It's you know, they're gonna get off.
Speaker 1: Guess who're gonna pay for it? Though now in their defense,
Speaker 1: they've already pledged two billion dollars two the families who
Speaker 1: suffered from the opioid crisis. I'm gonna give you all that.
Speaker 1: That's a lot of money. What is it? Justice? See it?
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