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Speaker 1: about the Sackler family farmer produce hood politics right now?

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Speaker 1: Who politics, y'all? Hood politics? Yo? This show called Choppo Wetto.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why it today. It was so funny

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Speaker 1: to beat what I do because wetto is uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: just be having this. You want to know if the

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Speaker 1: number one Schedule one narcotic is marijuana, heroin, l s D, ecstasy,

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Speaker 1: in magic, mushrooms. Does that list seem arbitrary to you?

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Speaker 1: Does that list seem like maybe it's not based in science,

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Speaker 1: Maybe it has much more to do the politics then science.

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Speaker 1: You're telling me, y'all gotten married, y'all got merry, y'all

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Speaker 1: got weed. You could uber eats weed. They gets an

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Speaker 1: app called ease out here in California. Are you could

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Speaker 1: like that deliver it to the crib? Marijuana is on

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Speaker 1: the same line as heroin. You're telling me, what's the

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Speaker 1: scientific basis that you got cocaine as less dangerous? There's

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Speaker 1: some pot? You know what The answer is, There isn't

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Speaker 1: any You got no scientific bevaness to prove. Why didn't

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Speaker 1: get and why? Of all these words? Why is one

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Speaker 1: of them? In Spanish? Marijuana is the Spanish word for cannabis. Why?

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Speaker 1: Why all the other stuff? Why are you calling it that? Well,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you why. I'm glad you asked, uh Nixon mixings,

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Speaker 1: why you're calling this calling it that and it's fucking racist? Why?

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Speaker 1: Uh one, Well, maddie Juana is the Spanish word from it,

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Speaker 1: and it was coming up from Mexico, So there's that.

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Speaker 1: But we do it was called cannabis when it was

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Speaker 1: called pot. We knew we had other names for this stuff,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, it was coming up from Mexico, right, Um,

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Speaker 1: But the idea was, when you're launching the war on drugs,

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Speaker 1: you attach these drugs with the people that you also

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Speaker 1: don't want to round. So you're calling marijuana. Uh this

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Speaker 1: marketing you call it marijuana. I mean, google me, fact

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Speaker 1: check me. You call it marijuana for the purpose of

447
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Speaker 1: making it seem, according to them, low class and exotic.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like it's dirty. There's madikuana.

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Speaker 1: It sounds more evil than just just pot. While at

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Speaker 1: the same time, again do your Google's. The United States

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Speaker 1: of America holds all future patents for any medicine that

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Speaker 1: comes out of marijuana research to this day, they've had

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Speaker 1: it for decades, while at the same time keeping it

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Speaker 1: a schedule one. Now why is it staying in schedule one?

455
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Speaker 1: Because you have to do uh, federally funded research to

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Speaker 1: prove that, hey, this is actually very beneficial to us.

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Speaker 1: Now you again. Now I'll scroll down to the magical

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Speaker 1: mushroom stuff, to the LSD, to the ecstasy extasy. I

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Speaker 1: ain't got no science on that one. But the LSD

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Speaker 1: and the magic must froom like cybercillin and stuff like that,

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Speaker 1: like that stuff has been proven with people to deal

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Speaker 1: with PTSD and and um really bad like head traumas

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Speaker 1: um to help, right that. I mean, that's what you know,

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Speaker 1: a lot of psychedelics have shown that, like, yeah, they

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Speaker 1: help with stuff like that. Like there's a I'll drop

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Speaker 1: some um. I don't have to drop him. I can

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Speaker 1: tell you her name. Now, hold on Suzanne Sicily. She's

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Speaker 1: at Humble Institutes for Interdisciplinary Marijuana Research. It's actually a

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Speaker 1: brilliant lady. Ive seen him speak at this thing up

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Speaker 1: in Eating Prayer, Utah, I believe it or not, I

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Speaker 1: was up there with the white boys. That thing costs summit.

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Speaker 1: It's incredible. Anyway. Yeah, she's done a bunch of research

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Speaker 1: with um vets, with with war vets dealing with serious

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Speaker 1: PTSD and like, look up her research. It's like, yo,

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Speaker 1: she works, y'all right, but without getting too far in

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Speaker 1: the weeds. Um, there's only one university that is uh

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Speaker 1: federally proved two. Build all your test studies for two

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Speaker 1: prove that marijuana is a useful medicine. But it's you

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Speaker 1: have to do it from this stuff that's like powder

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Speaker 1: form that's all stem and like something you've never smoked,

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Speaker 1: Like no one it's like dirt weed, Like no one

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Speaker 1: would smoke this. It's so it's like you're already starting

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Speaker 1: with like the worst possible strand ever. But like like

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Speaker 1: this is a billion dollar industry, like come on now, uh,

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Speaker 1: but it's still federally schedule one. Like yeah, I wonder,

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Speaker 1: I wonder why you know what else is not on

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Speaker 1: this list is you may think it's crack, but again,

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Speaker 1: crack is if you don't know this crack is actually

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Speaker 1: just cheap versions of cocaine. Um. But then we could

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Speaker 1: talk about the eighteen and one laws, and I don't

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Speaker 1: want to get into that. This is about choppo, right,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, here I'm gonna quote from from this uh

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Speaker 1: vox article about the scheduling of narcotics. So the War

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Speaker 1: on drugs was initiated when much of the nation was

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Speaker 1: in hysterics about what drugs will do to the quote

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Speaker 1: normal fabric of our country. Y'all know what the quote means. UM,

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Speaker 1: it may be helpful to think of scheduling system as

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Speaker 1: made up of two distinct groups, the non medical and

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Speaker 1: the medical. The non medical compromises the Schedule one drugs,

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Speaker 1: which are considered to have no medical value or high

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Speaker 1: potential for abuse. The medical group comprised in Schedules two

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Speaker 1: through five, which have some medical value and are numerically

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Speaker 1: rank based on the abuse potential. Uh, there are some

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Speaker 1: cultural considerations in the scheduling system. The War on drugs

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Speaker 1: was initiated at a time which minist of the nation

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Speaker 1: was in hysterics about what drugs like marijuana, cannabis, and

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Speaker 1: LSD would do to the fabric, the moral fabric of

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Speaker 1: our country. Marijuana was seen as dangerous, but not necessarily

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Speaker 1: because of its direct health benefits, but it's perception partially

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Speaker 1: rooted in racial injustices. The pot makes people immoral, lazy,

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Speaker 1: and even violent. Wait makes your violet. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what we drew had. The perception persists among many supporters

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Speaker 1: of the War on drugs to this day, and it's

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Speaker 1: still reflected in America's drug scheduling. Beyond the scheduling system,

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Speaker 1: the federal government imposes criminal trafficking penalties on drugs that

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Speaker 1: are not always aligned with their scheduling. For instance, marijuana

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Speaker 1: trafficking is generally punished less for less since severely than cocaine.

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Speaker 1: U states governments set up their own criminal penalties and

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Speaker 1: schedules for drugs as well. So that's the way to

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Speaker 1: think about drugs scheduling. Now back to our situation we're

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Speaker 1: dealing with here with the perdue farm of family, all right,

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Speaker 1: the Sacular family, Perdue farm of country. They're dealing with

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Speaker 1: a schedule to drug on the line with Riddling and

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Speaker 1: Viking and lied about its degree of potential of abuse,

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Speaker 1: right because they said it was non addictive. Clearly it

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Speaker 1: is and decimated our country. I keep I want to

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Speaker 1: keep saying this to you. It decimated our country. And

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Speaker 1: now they're not liable. They were able to declare bankrupt

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Speaker 1: and they got to be l Choppo out this mug

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Speaker 1: now more LA's story. Bosses don't go to jail, and

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Speaker 1: especially boss white people unless the white people to start

532
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Speaker 1: deciding you sucking up the money. So what did they do?

533
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Speaker 1: They put the baby to sleep? You kill the company.

534
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Speaker 1: The company played guilty. You can always start a new company. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's you can always bounce back. Last night took a hell,

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Speaker 1: but tonight I'll bounced back. You get your chopow. You

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Let him put you down, you

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Speaker 1: get out. You be all right? Now, what's our takeaway?

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00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: Our takeaway is this, there are a lot of young

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Speaker 1: families who found themselves with the cousin and uncle auntie,

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Speaker 1: somebody facing severe criminal charges over the use of these opioids.

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00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: Now these people are in lawsuits against the companies and

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Speaker 1: the retail outlets for which put these drugs in their hands. Right,

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Speaker 1: what we've said time and time again about being abolitionists,

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Speaker 1: about being about criminal justice reform, is you're penalizing a

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Speaker 1: person for there biology reacting the way that our biology

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Speaker 1: would when you put an addictive substance in it. If

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Speaker 1: you take cocaine in crack form, you are going to

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Speaker 1: be addicted. That's just it's our biology. If you're taking opioids,

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Speaker 1: you're going to be addicted. Addiction can't be criminal. Y'all,

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Speaker 1: Like that's just now, what you do when you're high,

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Speaker 1: that's a different story. Then you've committed a crime. But

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Speaker 1: having a possession of a drug that's clearly addictive. We

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Speaker 1: got to rethink this, and especially when the person that

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Speaker 1: put it in my hands it's not criminally liable. Some

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Speaker 1: may write, I mean, I'm just what does that mean

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Speaker 1: to us? That mean that, Like, well, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of non violent offenders sitting in the prisons right now

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Speaker 1: that some states have let go, have expunge charges, like

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Speaker 1: a lot of like, uh, marijuana charges, David, let go,

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Speaker 1: because I mean this it is legal in most states.

562
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: Like this is crazy, Like why are you still in

563
00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 1: jail for this? That's number one. Number two. Maybe we

564
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 1: need to interrogate the entire system itself. Maybe somebody needs

565
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 1: to get into office and think about what do how

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Speaker 1: who decided these schedulings, and how can we change this?

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Speaker 1: Do I do we have a say in how drugs

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00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: are scheduled? Because clearly this these choices are cultural. They're

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Speaker 1: not scientific, right, They're not. It's not based on this

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Speaker 1: ain't based on science, obviously, it's based on lobbyists. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I just based on American fears. What the article just said,

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Speaker 1: and finally, we need to figure out a way to

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Speaker 1: hold those that are accountable accountable. How do we do

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Speaker 1: that from the hood, Well, I don't know. I know

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Speaker 1: war on drugs felt like the war on the poor.

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Speaker 1: I know this opioid epidemic feel real similar. And I'll

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Speaker 1: be honest with you, I was hoping that this would

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Speaker 1: have been a bridge across supremacy to say, man, let's listen, listen, listen, listen,

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Speaker 1: You're being crushed by the same system. I am. This

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Speaker 1: This why, this is why I always pushed back when

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Speaker 1: people say, when you talk about white supremacy, that mean

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Speaker 1: you hate white people. I'm like you, you you can't

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Speaker 1: you white people crushed by white supremacy too. It it's

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Speaker 1: hurting you too, just like you can't. Power loves power.

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Speaker 1: It's hurting you too. You should be chatting just as

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Speaker 1: loud as we are, because it's hurting you too. They've

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Speaker 1: finna get off, y'all. It's you know, they're gonna get off.

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Speaker 1: Guess who're gonna pay for it? Though now in their defense,

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00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: they've already pledged two billion dollars two the families who

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Speaker 1: suffered from the opioid crisis. I'm gonna give you all that.

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Speaker 1: That's a lot of money. What is it? Justice? See it?

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