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Speaker 1: Smell the flowers and blow out the candles.

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Speaker 2: Just keep breathing.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Hurdler's Emily a body here. You are listening to

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Speaker 3: another episode of Hurdle, a podcast featuring the mindset, secrets,

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Speaker 3: and true stories of the most inspiring women in sports

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Speaker 3: and wellness, empowering you to live a healthier, happier, more

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Speaker 3: motivated life and of course, conquer your own hurdles.

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Speaker 4: This week, I am.

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Speaker 3: Sitting down with my dear dear pal, the incredible Bes Gentry.

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Speaker 3: Many of you know her as a powerhouse peloton instructor,

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Speaker 3: but recently she stepped into a massive new chapter as

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Speaker 3: a Hookah global brand ambassador. It's synergy that marks her

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Speaker 3: return to the Trails and Ultra Run, the place where

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Speaker 3: she first fell in love with the running community. In

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Speaker 3: this episode, Bex gets real about the logistics of being

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Speaker 3: a global athlete and a mother. We dive deep into

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Speaker 3: her discipline and how she manages to schedule high stress

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Speaker 3: training alongside her non negotiables. She shares a powerful perspective

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Speaker 3: on priority, noting that while she's deeply disciplined, she's learned

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Speaker 3: that training isn't always the highest priority. The health and

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Speaker 3: happiness of herself and her family, especially her cutie daughter,

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Speaker 3: to Lula always come first. We also discuss the lessons

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Speaker 3: she's learning in this chapter, from the importance of protecting

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Speaker 3: her mental health by setting boundaries with social media to

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Speaker 3: the value of reassessing goals. When the passion starts to fade,

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Speaker 3: Bex reminds us all that life's just too short not

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Speaker 3: to enjoy what we do in our spare time, and

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Speaker 3: sometimes the best thing you can do for growth is

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Speaker 3: to step away and find a new route to the

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Speaker 3: top of the mountain.

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Speaker 3: Hurdle over on social It's over at Hurdle podcast. You

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Speaker 3: can also check out Iheartwoman's Sports over at Iheartwoman's Sports

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Speaker 3: and me over at Emily Abodie. Listen to Hurdle with

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Speaker 3: Emily Abody on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever

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Speaker 3: you get your podcasts. And with that, let's get to it.

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Speaker 3: Let's get to hurdling.

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Speaker 4: Today. I am sitting down with Beck's gentry.

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Speaker 3: She is a Polton instructor, a new Hokah athlete.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to hurdles. How are we doing it?

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Speaker 1: Fantastic? Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, new Hoka Athlete chat there for bex gentry.

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Speaker 4: It's wild, It's wild.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Hoka Global Brand Ambassador, I think is official title, which

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Speaker 5: is an.

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Speaker 2: Ana thanh Jonah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: What was it about this synergy here that really excited you?

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Speaker 5: Hoker is a brand that blends performance with a very

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Speaker 5: welcoming community to every type of runner, which is huge.

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Speaker 5: You what I'm about It is not just about having

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Speaker 5: the fastest, flashiest, most expensive show on the market. It

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Speaker 5: is about so much more than that. It's about creating

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Speaker 5: shoes that last. It's about creating shoes that can serve you.

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Speaker 5: If you work in healthcare and you're walking around all day,

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Speaker 5: or if you are training for your fastest race ever

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Speaker 5: and you want a little bit of carbon help, we

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Speaker 5: got that for you. Or if you're ready to go

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Speaker 5: in truck over a mountain, we got.

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Speaker 3: You truck over a mountain and inspiring you to get

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Speaker 3: back to some.

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Speaker 4: Of the running that you really adore. I e.

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Speaker 5: Hitting the trail, Hitting the trails, Baby, she's back.

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Speaker 4: What's that look like for you?

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Speaker 5: Exploratory and a little worrisome. I started in trails. I

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Speaker 4: It's a true adventure. It's a true adventure.

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Speaker 3: You yourself have had such an interesting journey as an

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Speaker 3: Usually before I start asking all the things I like

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Speaker 4: Really, how are you doing?

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Speaker 3: And by it, I mean how do you make it

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Speaker 3: just things that you start and you might feel excited

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00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 3: at one point and then you realize along the journey

446
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,159
Speaker 3: that it's just not resonating with you.

447
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:36,920
Speaker 4: How do you find the grace of that.

448
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 2: Knowing that you have to put yourself first?

449
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,639
Speaker 5: And again, yeah, whether it's fitness, professionalism, whatever goal it

450
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:52,200
Speaker 5: was or is, if you are like burnout, doesn't come

451
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 5: from over training or over doing something. It comes from

452
00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,639
Speaker 5: trying to achieve something that you have no passion for,

453
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 5: something that is sapping your energy out of you without

454
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 5: you really even realizing, because you're constantly it's like trying

455
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 5: to climb up a slippery wall, like you may get there,

456
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 5: but Jesus, you're gonna be so exhausted and cut up

457
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 5: and bruised and defeated by the time you get to

458
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 5: the top. Or if you climb up and will with

459
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 5: some pegs in it, like you're gonna find this smooth

460
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 5: route up to the top, and you're gonna get there,

461
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 5: and you're gonna feel elated and proud when you.

462
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 2: Get to the top.

463
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Speaker 5: So I think it's sitting down with yourself and just

464
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 5: asking yourself these honest questions and having the strength to say, actually,

465
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Speaker 5: I need to scrap that. I know I said I

466
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 5: was gonna do it, and I know I said earlier.

467
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Speaker 5: I do things that I say I'm gonna do, I'm

468
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Speaker 5: gonna do it. Yeah. Ohso there are times where I'm like, yeah,

469
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:51,639
Speaker 5: I said I was gonna do it, but it's not

470
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 5: healthy for me to do this right now. So it

471
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,959
Speaker 5: doesn't mean I'm never gonna run a marathon again, but

472
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Speaker 5: it just means I'm gonna put it somewhere else.

473
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Speaker 3: How did that feel for you, considering that when you

474
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Speaker 3: share your goals, you're sharing them with quite a large community.

475
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 5: Honestly, because of what I was doing was an event

476
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 5: with Save the Children that was huge to me and

477
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 5: very very very important. I kind of felt like I

478
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 5: was showing the world a different priority of like, there's

479
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 5: going to be way more marathons, but this event was

480
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 5: something that had been dreamt up and it had to

481
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 5: be done then. It was very it was it was

482
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 5: on a specific date for a specific reason, and so

483
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 5: I just was I was showing different cards, I think,

484
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 5: And I still ran that day.

485
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Speaker 2: I just ran a mile, not a marathons.

486
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 4: Yeah.

487
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Speaker 3: And in general, when it comes to sharing things that

488
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:53,199
Speaker 3: excite you, do you feel like sometimes you need to

489
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,360
Speaker 3: be a little strategic in that.

490
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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, hugely.

491
00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,919
Speaker 5: So you probably know this, but in in Psycho it

492
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 5: has been discussed a lot that when it comes to

493
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 5: goals and talking about our goals to people, humans get

494
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 5: a sense of having done it, like this sense of

495
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 5: achievement when we tell somebody and there's a.

496
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 1: Teeny tiny like neuropathway in our brains.

497
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Speaker 5: Like if I said to you, Emily, I'm I'm going

498
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Speaker 5: to climb Mount Everest and you're like, oh my gosh,

499
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:26,439
Speaker 5: that's amazing, God, this is brilliant, and that joy and

500
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 5: that congratulatory response from you triggers a neuropathway in my

501
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 5: brain that is very similar to the dopamine you get

502
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 5: when you've actually achieved it, and it gives you that like.

503
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,640
Speaker 1: Teeny percentage of Oh, you've done it.

504
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 2: You've done it.

505
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 5: And the more and more people you tell and they

506
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 5: give you that same response, it waters down and lessens

507
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 5: your want to feel that thing when you have actually

508
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 5: done it. And I am hugely that person. So I

509
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,120
Speaker 5: tell a very very small amount of people what I'm

510
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 5: actually training for well in advance as it gets closer. Yes,

511
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 5: because I feel like when I get exhausted, I kind

512
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 5: of need a bit of extra motivation about.

513
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:12,919
Speaker 1: Oh my god, all these people know I'm going to

514
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 1: do it. I have to do it now, but a

515
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 1: long way out.

516
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 5: M M. I don't tell that many people because I

517
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 5: know I feel that when people get excited for what

518
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 5: I am doing in the future, I'm like, well, cool, it's.

519
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:32,400
Speaker 3: Very indicative of going back to not feeling stoked about

520
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 3: that June race last year. You weren't even talking to

521
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 3: the person that, otherwise, in every moment similar before, had

522
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 3: been your biggest cheerleader.

523
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 2: M M. Yeah.

524
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just like nope.

525
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 5: We're good, Yeah, we're good.

526
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't we don't even want that, We don't

527
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 3: even want that support, which means that I clearly am

528
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 3: not really excited about this goal that I have on deck.

529
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

530
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 5: Right, so you just just I don't know for me there,

531
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 5: I said I was going to tell everybody about what

532
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 5: I'm currently training for quite early, and I've actually decided

533
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,199
Speaker 5: to not, and I keep getting my Instagram is flooded

534
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 5: with people being like, I did.

535
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:09,360
Speaker 1: I miss your goal?

536
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 5: Might No, I just decided to keep it close to

537
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,199
Speaker 5: my chest, and those people who know, they know that

538
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 5: they're in a small minority of people and that I

539
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 5: don't want it to be out there right now because

540
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 5: I've honestly, I've got a lot of work to do

541
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 5: to feel confident.

542
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:26,439
Speaker 2: Right now.

543
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 5: I don't feel confident in myself, but that's because I've

544
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 5: got months of training ahead of me.

545
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 3: I think it's so interesting also this culture that is

546
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 3: created with social media and parasocial relationships, that individuals feel

547
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 3: as though they are entitled to that information because they

548
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 3: feel as though you are a part of their immediate

549
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 3: social network right there, that you are someone that they

550
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 3: actually know and not just obviously with you, but so

551
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,360
Speaker 3: many of the people that each of us follow on

552
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 3: social For you, how has it felt more so to

553
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 3: exercise your boundaries with social media and with keeping things

554
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 3: close to.

555
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 2: The best question.

556
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 5: It's difficult because there are definitely times where I just

557
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 5: want to be like, ah, I'm tired and just this

558
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 5: is what I'm doing, and this is why it's stressful.

559
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 5: But I also feel like people don't really understand. Again,

560
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 5: it's because there is that that relationship is not real.

561
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 5: It's through screens, be it social media screen or the

562
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 5: peloton screen. It's not a tangible, TecTile relationship that is

563
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 5: practiced day in day out based off of real.

564
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: True emotions.

565
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 5: It's like it's an it's a transactional relationship.

566
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't.

567
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 5: I don't need that drain I suppose on me. When

568
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 5: the older I'm getting, the more along in the twoth

569
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 5: I'm getting about all this training stuff. When I realize

570
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 5: how exhausting it is. I don't need that added drain.

571
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 5: So I've had to put up way more barriers to

572
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 5: keep myself grounded. And for home, I mean not sponsored,

573
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 5: but like I'm employing Brick.

574
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, we have one on the desks.

575
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, you have one because I just have to switch

576
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 5: off from it. And I find it very difficult to

577
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 5: switch off from social because I do want to be

578
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 5: a nice person. So if someone says my message and

579
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 5: I try and reply, but then I can see Austin

580
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 5: or vice versa, he might be on his phone and

581
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 5: I'm staring at him like hello, I am right here,

582
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 5: right here.

583
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 3: The question is what apps you have blocked.

584
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 4: On the brick.

585
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 5: Oh well, I mean I took Facebook off my phone

586
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 5: like three years ago, since having Telula, I, I haven't

587
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 5: had Facebook on my phone. I'm not on TikTok. I

588
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 5: took Threads off or x or whatever. I don't even

589
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 5: kind of think. I don't even know what it's called.

590
00:29:58,600 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 4: Two different apps.

591
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 5: Oh there we go, well done, grandmar So Instagram, okay,

592
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 5: and that's the main one, Instagram, and then like all

593
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 5: shopping apps.

594
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 3: You know what, You're so funny, you're the second person

595
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 3: that I've asked this question to. And one of my

596
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 3: girlfriends said, and I blocked Amazon. I was like, Amazon

597
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 3: is on your block.

598
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 5: List, Amazon net supporte.

599
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 2: Forward, Oh my gosh.

600
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 5: All of it.

601
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: I should probably just block the Internet, to be quite honest.

602
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, just like turn off my WiFi.

603
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 3: I actually when I brick, I block all the social

604
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 3: media's and then I actually also block messages. But if

605
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 3: I'm on my computer during doing work, messages come through

606
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 3: to my computer. But it really is insane the difference

607
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 3: between and again this is not sponsored, but the difference

608
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 3: between bricking your phone and just putting on D and D.

609
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 2: Oh.

610
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 3: You're so much more likely to still check with the

611
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 3: D and D on than you are with the brick,

612
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 3: because the brick doesn't even let you have access to exactly.

613
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can still pick up your phone and check

614
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 1: the app.

615
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 4: So brick, so we sponsor the show.

616
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, Austin wants us to do a Brick weekend where

617
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 5: we leave the brick in New York.

618
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 2: And we go to our house.

619
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 3: Wow.

620
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 5: And I was like, that's a nice challenge.

621
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 3: You just need someone that pockets the brick for you.

622
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I might it neighbor's house.

623
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 4: I was gonna say sure, or I could just come.

624
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you can have it and.

625
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 4: You and do this favor for you.

626
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 5: They're just support exactly, do a brick support weekend.

627
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 3: Outside of everything that you're talking about, there being a

628
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 3: large social media following you putting specific boundaries up to

629
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 3: help protect your mental health.

630
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 4: You are in quite a busy season.

631
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 3: I mean we talked about you just signing on to

632
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 3: be this global athlete for HOKA, and then on top

633
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 3: of that, I know over the past year you also

634
00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 3: got representation with Always Alpha. I think that that's something

635
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 3: that a lot of people, myself included, would love to

636
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 3: know more about. How has that chapter been like for

637
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 3: you now having kind of people in your corner?

638
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it.

639
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,959
Speaker 5: I was so honored to be taken on board by

640
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 5: Always Alfa. I mean, you and I were sitting in

641
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 5: Soho house in Paris when we met with Wes Felix,

642
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 5: Alison Felix's brother, and from there on Wes and I

643
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 5: became friends and we went for dinner here in New York.

644
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: A couple of times.

645
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 5: It was like my sister and I doing this thing.

646
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 5: We'd love for you to be one of our first clients.

647
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 2: So I was like, what what But and.

648
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 5: Funnily enough, Alison and I have moved in not just sports,

649
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 5: similar circle similar she's like the most decorated. Actually, you know,

650
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 5: not just in the sports world, have moved in similar events,

651
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 5: but in the motherhood world as well. We've been at

652
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 5: many motherhood events together and we've ended up spending a

653
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 5: bit of time together before, so we knew each other

654
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 5: pretty well, and so it was really like mind blowing

655
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:08,959
Speaker 5: to go on board with always Ouf. I think I

656
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 5: was in their first five clients, and that was back

657
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 5: in like October twenty three or twenty three, twenty four,

658
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 5: twenty four, after the game, after the game.

659
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 4: Practically, what does it look like?

660
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 5: Practically it is like having a best friend who knows

661
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 5: all my business business, not just my personal business, but

662
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 5: my business business. And so Olivia is like my person

663
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 5: and she has my back. As you said, she literally

664
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 5: broke as my deals. She manages the stuff that comes

665
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 5: in that people might want me to work on. She

666
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 5: knows me well enough. At this point we spent a

667
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 5: lot of time together. She knows me well enough to

668
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 5: be like a hell nail or call me squealing, and

669
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 5: she and I share thoughts of like my trajectory and

670
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 5: where I want to go and how we're going to

671
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 5: achieve that, and yeah, working like getting this deal off

672
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 5: the ground with Hoka was amazing, and I think she

673
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 5: and I work together really solidly to understand like, Okay,

674
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 5: this is really good synergy with a brand that is

675
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 5: looking to change but also keep their integrity, and that

676
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 5: was great to have her echoing my sentiments on this when.

677
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 4: You were making the decision.

678
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 3: Aside from the flattery of being sought after for something

679
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 3: like this, something that often comes up is this question

680
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 3: of is this something that I could be doing myself?

681
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 3: Should I be outsourcing something like this for you? How

682
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 3: did you know that, just in general, not specifically with

683
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 3: this agency, that pursuing an avenue like this was a

684
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 3: good idea for you.

685
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 5: Understanding contracts, to be quite honest, I think understanding my worth.

686
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 5: There are certain brands that you jump at the chance

687
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 5: to work with because you do love them, but at

688
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 5: the same time, you forget that it's a dog eat

689
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 5: dog world and it's a business interaction and you have

690
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 5: to value your own worth because, especially if you're dealing

691
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 5: with a brand that's employed an agency to broker that deal,

692
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 5: if you can you kind of say this, pull your

693
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 5: pants down in order to work with a brand you love.

694
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 5: Then they may also represent a different brand and you've

695
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,399
Speaker 5: put your net worth down in front of them.

696
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 4: It's a really good point.

697
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 5: And I think having an agent, they will not let

698
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 5: me pull my pants down just because I love that brand.

699
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 1: They're like, cool, they need to love you as much

700
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:38,240
Speaker 1: as you love that brand.

701
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's been very good to be level set

702
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 5: with certain brands and understand, okay, we're going to make

703
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 5: this a true business interaction. But you know, behind closed doors,

704
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 5: I'm jumping up and down squealing at how happy I

705
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 5: am I get to work with brand X or product

706
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 5: X or whatever it is.

707
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:59,240
Speaker 3: So this is a really good place to also talk

708
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 3: about the importance of relationship building, because there are going

709
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 3: to be moments where perhaps you are met with an

710
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 3: opportunity that, in some aspects really does make you feel seen,

711
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 3: heard in value.

712
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 4: However, maybe the dollars aren't there.

713
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 3: One of the pieces of advice that I got early

714
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 3: on in building the show was from Gunner Peterson, and

715
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 3: I remember he came in and said, not everyone is

716
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 3: going to show you that they appreciate you with dollars,

717
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 3: and that's okay. When I say that to you, what

718
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:35,919
Speaker 3: comes to mind If.

719
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 5: It's a brand you truly believe in and they're in

720
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 5: their early years stuck.

721
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 2: Stuck baby.

722
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 5: If you truly believe in that brand, invest in it,

723
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 5: become part of the board, the advisory sit in on it,

724
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 5: and if you believe in their plans and their future

725
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 5: business growth.

726
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 1: Be part of it. Jump right in because.

727
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,959
Speaker 5: That could be something that really excites you and gives

728
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 5: you motivation for other things in your life too, if

729
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 5: dollars are the most important thing. But then it can't

730
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 5: quite show it to you downside what you give them

731
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 5: back for now and hope that it can grow in

732
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 5: the future with you, maybe with your help by that

733
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 5: smaller piece of work. But yeah, for me, it's definitely

734
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 5: seeing the brand, seeing what their future looks like and

735
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 5: what I can offer back as well tailoring it. It

736
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 5: really is about tailoring it, not just it feels like

737
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 5: the person who's paying you has the mass control over

738
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 5: what is to be delivered. But it's not the case.

739
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 5: There's so much more conversation that should be haired especially

740
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 5: now in this world where generic social media advertising it's

741
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 5: not working. It's getting terrible traction. We're all blaming meta,

742
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 5: We're all blaming ig algorithms for this, and it's not

743
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 5: as far as I know, and for what I've listened

744
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 5: to many a pot and many a person a meta.

745
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 5: It's not actually something they are doing per se. It's

746
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 5: not like a little code that they're putting in. It's

747
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 5: just the way the world works. It's oversaturated with the

748
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 5: same stuff, so it's thinking outside of the box and

749
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 5: just trying to make things a bit different.

750
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 3: You listening to many podcasts is something that I love

751
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 3: about you. You're always sharing the little gems with me

752
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 3: that you hear while you're typically on the run. When

753
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 3: you think about maybe some of the content that you've

754
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 3: consumed over the last year, what would you say has

755
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,280
Speaker 3: been some of the most resonant.

756
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, I've been listening to a lot of

757
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 5: women's health podcasts, to be quite honest. Whether that is

758
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 5: I'll listen to anyone and everyone when it comes to it,

759
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 5: whether it's Nott to Lisa Mosconi, whether it's Ritual Hubman.

760
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 5: There's not one person that I adore more than others.

761
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 5: I try to listen to all different sides, some controversial

762
00:38:55,280 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 5: some not, But I think the main element to all

763
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 5: of the podcasts I listen to is about the patients

764
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 5: within growth and that it takes strength to climb a mountain,

765
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,720
Speaker 5: but it takes so much strength to come like roll backwards,

766
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 5: whether it's all the way back down and get yourself up,

767
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 5: brush yourself off, look at that mountain and just think, Okay,

768
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 5: there's another route.

769
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 1: There's another route.

770
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 5: I see the top, but there's another route, and you

771
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 5: may not see it right away, and that means maybe

772
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 5: you have to walk away and I don't know, just

773
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 5: not look at it at all, not think about it

774
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:37,760
Speaker 5: at all, until one day.

775
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 2: There it is.

776
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's the other route, and.

777
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,280
Speaker 5: It was right in front of me, but I didn't

778
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 5: have the mental space or clarity or strength physical or

779
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 5: mental to achieve it right then. So by just stepping away,

780
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 5: I got it and then you.

781
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 2: Go back to it.

782
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 5: And that has come from listening to people talk about

783
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 5: health studies, medicines that have taken so long to get

784
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 5: to the forefront of the world, to get funding, to

785
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 5: get attention, women's or athletes who have tried to do

786
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 5: things so many times and failed and kept coming back.

787
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: Then they get there. It's patients. It's just reassessing.

788
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 4: What's the meltin you're trying to climb right now.

789
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,320
Speaker 2: I'm not going to tell you the actual mountain.

790
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 5: The mountain I'm trying to climb right now is believing

791
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 5: that I can actually do what I've set out to

792
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:34,760
Speaker 5: do at the end of summer.

793
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 1: It's something I have always.

794
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 5: Not always wanted to do, not for the last forty

795
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 5: years of my life, but for the past like fifteen

796
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 5: years of my life. It is a race that I

797
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 5: have thought, one day I'll do it, and I didn't

798
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 5: know one day was this year, but all of a sudden,

799
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,919
Speaker 5: one day is this year, and it's a big deal.

800
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 5: It's tough, it's scary. It's a really scary race to

801
00:40:55,000 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 5: me and where you I know, really how I'm going

802
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 5: to train that well for it, to be honest, But

803
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 5: as I keep saying to myself, I don't live in Antarctica,

804
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 5: but I run a marathon there, so I can I can.

805
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:11,439
Speaker 2: Figure it out.

806
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can figure it out.

807
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, as you are setting new goals for yourself that

808
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 3: go beyond movement, talk to me about what's exciting you there.

809
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 5: It's honestly, it all comes back to ta Lula, my daughter.

810
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 5: It's setting up a future for her that I feel

811
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 5: will excite her, will provide her with safety, security, happiness,

812
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 5: and growth because that girl has a big brain, and

813
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 5: she has a big amount of energy, and she is

814
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 5: so hard to keep up with already at three and

815
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 5: a half that I'm like, she is going to be astronomical,

816
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 5: and I just everything I do as a woman in

817
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 5: sport and business at my platform level is striving to help.

818
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 2: Her not have to go through what our.

819
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 5: Generations and all the generations before us have had to

820
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 5: go through, which has been struggling to get ourselves heard

821
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 5: and recognized for the goodness that we have and do.

822
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 5: So I think it's really such a privilege to be

823
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 5: in the situation I'm in. I think our generation we

824
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 5: love to whine and complain about how hard it is.

825
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 5: We are the luckiest age group of people so far,

826
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 5: and we whine and we complain because we have soap

827
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 5: boxes to stand on, and we create all of this negativity.

828
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 5: What we should be doing more is focusing on the

829
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 5: actions and uniting and making them happen, rather.

830
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 2: Than looking at the numbers.

831
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 5: Of social media that is, highest engagement rates are on

832
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 5: negative things. It's like, we know we should be flipping

833
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 5: that around. The lowest engagement is on positive things. That's

834
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 5: the sad, sad truth. So I think if we flip

835
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 5: it around and just like realize how lucky we are

836
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 5: to have all these opportunities of this generation to re

837
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 5: lay the foundations of what comes ahead, rather than keep

838
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 5: HARKing back to the past and trying to like it's

839
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:30,240
Speaker 5: like we're trying to knock a sculpture out of metal.

840
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 1: It's not going to happen.

841
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 5: Let's just stop trying to chip away at that metal

842
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,399
Speaker 5: and let's start getting there.

843
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm not an artist.

844
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 5: Concrete clay, whatever clay does, get the clay cooking for

845
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,879
Speaker 5: the next future, models of what.

846
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 3: It's going to look like, creating things so that Tallula

847
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 3: has a.

848
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 4: Better world to live in.

849
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really beautiful to come at it from that

850
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 3: perspect active, and oftentimes I find when you have a

851
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 3: passion like this, one of creating something better for your daughter,

852
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 3: that comes from a recognition that there was something that

853
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 3: you wanted at some time that felt maybe beyond you.

854
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 3: When I say that to you, what comes to mind

855
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 3: being told I was.

856
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 2: First for a girl hmmm.

857
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: I will never let that go.

858
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 4: And who was telling you that?

859
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 5: Honestly, I don't remember. It was somebody of no importance.

860
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 5: I think it was just a random person. It was

861
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 5: nobody I was friends with because I would know that

862
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 5: their name, and it was it was definitely a male.

863
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,879
Speaker 5: That goes without saying. But I just will not let

864
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 5: that sentence.

865
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 2: Out of my brain.

866
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 5: You were first for a girl, Like, no, no, sir,

867
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 5: I'm just fast.

868
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 4: So breaking down that.

869
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 5: Breaking down that Serena Williams is the greatest female turns

870
00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 5: payer of all times. Now, actually she is the great

871
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 5: it's a tennis player.

872
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: Of all time, you know what I mean.

873
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,280
Speaker 5: It's like, of course it's wonderful to say female as well.

874
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 5: That does have its own accolades to it, but like,

875
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 5: let truth be told when truth is gold here.

876
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:14,399
Speaker 4: Yeah.

877
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, So being in this place where we're elevating stories

878
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 3: of women and not just downplaying the accomplishment by labeling

879
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:26,280
Speaker 3: her as such, but celebrating that instead.

880
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 5: M h.

881
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 3: When you now think about the things that excite you

882
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 3: and the goals that you're setting that have this opportunity

883
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 3: to put your family and your daughter in a better place,

884
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:55,280
Speaker 3: what's on the horizon.

885
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 5: Oh gosh, travel taking tea to some wild and wonderful

886
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 5: places around the world, which is funny. It's full circle

887
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 5: for me because I got into trail running and ultra

888
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 5: running when I was a lot younger, like honestly out

889
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 5: of university, like twenty fifteen, twenty years ago.

890
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,280
Speaker 1: No, twenty, not fifteen twenty.

891
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 3: You're like, I'm going to tell you to you street. Yeah,

892
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 3: twenty twenty.

893
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,760
Speaker 1: And I love the adventure.

894
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 5: It was just me and I could pack a bag

895
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 5: and I could go and run a race and be

896
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 5: in this super cool country and didn't have commitments.

897
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 1: I could stay there if I wanted to.

898
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 5: And now I get to do that with commitments and

899
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 5: with my family, and you know, I'm not staying in

900
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,879
Speaker 5: a rati hostel room with twelve other people this time.

901
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

902
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 3: What did you think that you wanted to do at

903
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:47,760
Speaker 3: this point in your life when you were younger.

904
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 5: I wanted to be a marine biologist, Okay, yeah, then

905
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 5: I found out I had to have biology.

906
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 3: You're like, I liked sea animals, Yes, I like to

907
00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 3: be in the sea with animals, right.

908
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 2: I don't like science and I was not good at it.

909
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 3: When did you start to understand that the things that

910
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 3: you're aspiring to now, although they may look slightly different,

911
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 3: were the things that you were aspiring to.

912
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: A few years ago.

913
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 5: I think when I wanted to be marine biologic, I

914
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:21,280
Speaker 5: was young, I was a little girl.

915
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: Then it was lawyer, wants to be a lawyer.

916
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 5: And then my cousin's girlfriend, when I was much younger,

917
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 5: she was a lawyer, and she sat me down she said,

918
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 5: you know, you sometimes have to defend bad people, and

919
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 5: that was it. And like I was a teenager at

920
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 5: that point, and I was like, I have to defend

921
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 5: bad people. Yes, if you become that type of lawyer.

922
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 5: There's many different types of lawyers, but you might have

923
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 5: to defend a bad person. And I was like, no,

924
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 5: I'm good, no, thank you. So that went out the window.

925
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 5: And then I wanted to be a news correspondent. So

926
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 5: I wanted to be Kate Ady. If anyone knows who

927
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 5: she is, she's one of the most incredible foreign affairs

928
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 5: correspondents who is ever Gray Star screens. She has been

929
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 5: some of the most dangerous situations of any foreign affairs correspondent,

930
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 5: and she came through them and delivered just groundbreaking news.

931
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: And I just wanted to be her.

932
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 5: I wanted to be in these places, and that was

933
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 5: why I went and studied what I did at university.

934
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 5: That's why I went from university into my first job.

935
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 5: I worked at the Financial Times newspaper because I was like, right,

936
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna get any job I can here, so

937
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 5: then I can become part of their foreign affairs team.

938
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 5: And then I'm going to work for the BBC or

939
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 5: CNN or routers or whatever, and I we can do this.

940
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 5: And then somehow I just fell into a different path.

941
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 5: But then all of a sudden, I've become a correspondent

942
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 5: for Sport And it's so wild because okay, it's not

943
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 5: a foreign affairs correspondent, but it is. It's a correspondent

944
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 5: for my passion now and there's that's the passion that

945
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 5: I've had for the past fifteen years. And it kind

946
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 5: of hasn't hasn't all lined up in a really way way.

947
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 3: It's a really beautiful power in the pivot. Yeah, when

948
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 3: else have you realized that? When else have you met

949
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 3: a pivot and thought to yourself, what an awesome opportunity

950
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 3: that this is.

951
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 5: Well, the biggest pivot I think for me was leaving

952
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 5: my world of public relations and when my uncle told

953
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 5: me I needed to share this passion for movement with

954
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,800
Speaker 5: the world that I had and went back to school,

955
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 5: got my degree like a business not a full degree,

956
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 5: like a diploma sort of thing in business and sports essentially,

957
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 5: and I got this really cool intern role of which

958
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:53,439
Speaker 5: I had to train the Nike team in the UK,

959
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 5: and that is where I started in my career. I

960
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 5: got taken on board by the Nike UK and then

961
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,320
Speaker 5: became Nike Global and then that spiraled into meeting Rebecca

962
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 5: Kennedy and who knew that meeting that one vivacious woman

963
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 5: with the most rhythm I'd ever seen on anyone's hips

964
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 5: in that room in out just outside of am Simon

965
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:23,760
Speaker 5: Hilversum in the Netherlands, that that encounter for three days

966
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:29,919
Speaker 5: would change my life to move to America, to live

967
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,399
Speaker 5: and teach here, to now have my family, my own

968
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 5: family here Like that is absurd.

969
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 4: How does that make you feel when you reflect on.

970
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 5: That, that the power of yes is just astonishing? Just

971
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 5: take that leap, say yes. You can always say no

972
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,919
Speaker 5: later down the line, but if your gut's saying don't

973
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 5: say yes, just try it.

974
00:50:53,840 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 3: Really special example also of the power of one interaction. Right,

975
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:05,839
Speaker 3: you never know what one person you come into contact with,

976
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:10,280
Speaker 3: how they could show up in your life moving forward,

977
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:15,399
Speaker 3: or how you could benefit from that situation. Not saying

978
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 3: that you should approach every interaction like what am I

979
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 3: going to get from this, but more so approaching it

980
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 3: with a level of curiosity. I was walking to the

981
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 3: gym today and I watched these two dog owners walk

982
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 3: up to each other with their dogs, and the dogs

983
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:36,359
Speaker 3: are sniffing around and saying hello, And I just had

984
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 3: this thought that was, what if we as humans approached

985
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 3: each other always with this level of kindness and inquiry

986
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 3: instead of being face down and absorbed in our own

987
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 3: pocket computer. What if when I walked by you on

988
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 3: the street each and every time I said hello, or

989
00:51:56,719 --> 00:52:00,280
Speaker 3: when I got my coffee, I had genuine curiosity about

990
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 3: how the person on the other side of the register

991
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:03,720
Speaker 3: was feeling.

992
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 4: We've lost that we've lost the plot.

993
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:08,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have, we have.

994
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 5: And that's so funny that you bring it up, because

995
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 5: Ustin and I are just watching Tell Me Lies.

996
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 2: We're just we're like starting it.

997
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think it was the end of season one,

998
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 5: and this isn't a spoiler, but like Stephen got an

999
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 5: iPhone and in one I think it was maybe one

1000
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:29,760
Speaker 5: one and a half episodes of him having this iPhone

1001
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 5: like three of the other characters and just enraged by it.

1002
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 5: And how they obviously they wrote it post iPhone wasn't

1003
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 5: at the same time that the first iPhone was launched.

1004
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 5: It was so much information has come and practiced with

1005
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:45,720
Speaker 5: them since.

1006
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 1: But you can just see they did it so well.

1007
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 5: Of the immediate like draw to this device, of like

1008
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 5: him laying in bed and I won't say who with.

1009
00:52:58,520 --> 00:52:59,359
Speaker 1: But on his.

1010
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 5: Phone, like reaching over the person to grab his phone

1011
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 5: as he's like kissing her, like passing kiss to get

1012
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 5: the phone.

1013
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: I was like, oh.

1014
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 5: Oh, and just think where we've come. And now they're

1015
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 5: like now we're having.

1016
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 1: To brick them.

1017
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 3: Now we're having to brick the phones.

1018
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was.

1019
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 5: Just like yeah, anyway, sorry, well.

1020
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 3: Okay, I need to get on this train. Yes you

1021
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 3: haven't watched it, you do, however, yes, the communication thing

1022
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 3: is music.

1023
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 2: Is just lost. It's gone.

1024
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 5: It's it's like that special computer is so special to

1025
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 5: some people that they may as well just live in

1026
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 5: a little shed with the computer and nothing.

1027
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 3: Else and nothing else, but when you're willing to put

1028
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 3: it down and look at who's around you and think

1029
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 3: about the beauty that can come from just asking a

1030
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 3: how are you or what's exciting you right now? Or

1031
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 3: where are you going after this exactly?

1032
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 5: And I will give another piece of advice to everyone,

1033
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 5: get off your phone so much that you don't need

1034
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 5: it to even take pictures. So we've invested in a

1035
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:14,439
Speaker 5: dad cam.

1036
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:16,919
Speaker 3: I love that you're calling it a dad at dad

1037
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:17,839
Speaker 3: cam camcorder.

1038
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 2: And we've had a polaroid.

1039
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 5: Like you know you've been and he's featured in many

1040
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,879
Speaker 5: a Sunday We have a Sunday photo since Telula's turned one.

1041
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,800
Speaker 5: We did this actually, and now all the other babies

1042
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 5: in our family have had it since they were born.

1043
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 5: And we have a Sunday photo every week. And you've

1044
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 5: been at our house multiple times and are in the

1045
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 5: Sunday photo with Talula. And then now we have a

1046
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 5: dad cam that we just used to video instead of

1047
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,720
Speaker 5: shoving our iPhones in her face because she's an age

1048
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 5: where she's.

1049
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 4: Like the phone uh huh.

1050
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 5: And yeah, but I still do want to record her.

1051
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 5: I do want to create these memories just like our

1052
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 5: parents did. But they had those goofy dad cams, and

1053
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 5: now we do.

1054
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 3: I love that you called a dad cam because at

1055
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 3: first I thought it was just like a big camera,

1056
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 3: not a camquorder. But I love that it's a camquarder.

1057
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 3: Oh with the handstrap.

1058
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 1: With the handstrap, Yep, it's phenomenal.

1059
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 4: I got to Lulu wants to get her hands on

1060
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:17,839
Speaker 4: it too.

1061
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,919
Speaker 5: She does. She's weirdly not interested in it, thank goodness. Yeah,

1062
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 5: and she loved when it comes out. She's just she

1063
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 5: is like a little ham Yeah, she's like, hey, you

1064
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:31,320
Speaker 5: mentioned uh something that I think is really admirable as well.

1065
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 3: And we don't need to go into any of the

1066
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 3: specifics on where, but I know earlier this year you

1067
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 3: also got another house, which is so awesome. What does

1068
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,439
Speaker 3: being able to get out of the city do for

1069
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 3: you and how does it help you come to back

1070
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 3: to yourself?

1071
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 5: It's my refresh. Yeah, we're so so lucky. We've wanted

1072
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 5: to move out of the city for a while, but

1073
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 5: we both have this like stranglehold on the city where

1074
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 5: we're not quite ready to leave.

1075
00:55:58,920 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1076
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:02,320
Speaker 5: I think it's the frivolity and the spontaneity that happens

1077
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:04,919
Speaker 5: when you live in such a big metropolis like New York,

1078
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 5: you can be the at home mouse or you can

1079
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 5: be the party animal, and that personality change can happen

1080
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:15,359
Speaker 5: in ten minutes if you want it to. So we're

1081
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 5: both still hung up on that a little bit. So

1082
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 5: we are incredibly privileged to have a place we can

1083
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:22,839
Speaker 5: escape to.

1084
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 1: And it's wild because it's a home.

1085
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 5: It's a really grown up house. Yeah, and I know

1086
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 5: a lot of my friends and colleagues have these grown

1087
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 5: up houses. But I still feel like a university kid

1088
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:39,359
Speaker 5: because I still live in like a condo building, and

1089
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 5: like I have neighbors in my building sort of like

1090
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 5: you know. And when we drive up there, it's such

1091
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 5: a different energy, Like I feel like a grown up,

1092
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,840
Speaker 5: which at you know, almost forty, I should feel a

1093
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:56,359
Speaker 5: little bit more like a grown up than I.

1094
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: Do most of the time, I think.

1095
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 5: And for Tea and the dogs, it's just so beautiful

1096
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 5: to watch their freedom. The dogs don't barely need a leach.

1097
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 5: We just put them on a leash because Dark can

1098
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 5: be a complete idiot. Sometimes they just run off and

1099
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 5: she's really fast, but they don't need it. Like our

1100
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 5: evening walks are on a frozen lake and the dogs

1101
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 5: are not on their leashes because no one cares.

1102
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: No one is a snooty city person who's like, well,

1103
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 1: my dog has anxiety.

1104
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 5: I'm like, these dogsn't have anxiety. Your anxiety is rubbing

1105
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Speaker 5: off on your dog. And you know, it's just friendly

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Speaker 5: and wonderful and he took her for a ski lesson

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Speaker 5: this weekend, and it's just, yeah, it's teaching me to

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Speaker 5: be really organized because there's not a bodegger at the

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Speaker 5: end of my street where if I run out of whatever,

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Speaker 5: I can just pop to get it. Like the supermarket

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Speaker 5: is a twenty minute drive away, and so you know,

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Speaker 5: there's a country store, but the hours are whenever the

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Speaker 5: dude wants to be there, and sometimes.

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Speaker 1: He had one too many in the pub the night before.

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Speaker 5: So it's just, yeah, it's really really good for my

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00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 5: brain and a really good switch off. And yeah, as

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Speaker 5: I said, Astin wants to do a brick weekend, so

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Speaker 5: it's very much.

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Speaker 2: I lose my phone when I'm up there. I apologize

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Speaker 2: to my.

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Speaker 5: Friends and family profusely, because once I'm up there, it's

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Speaker 5: quite hard to get an immediate response from me. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: it's hard at the best of times unless I'm on

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Speaker 5: my phone, and then when I'm up there, I'm like,

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Speaker 5: oh my gosh, I.

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Speaker 1: Don't even know where my phone is.

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Speaker 4: What a gift.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I actually lost my driver license up there the

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Speaker 5: other day, which she is annoying, But I literally I

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00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 5: am about to go and get my real idea.

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Speaker 3: So you're like, trust me when I said it was

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Speaker 3: on my errands list, it's really on now.

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Speaker 2: It really is.

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Speaker 3: It's really on my er it when you earlier we

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Speaker 3: had this long talk about social media. Obviously, so many

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00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 3: people there keeping up with you, seeing you as this

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Speaker 3: peloton instructor, this brand athlete. But when you look in

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00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 3: the mirror backs, what is it that you see looking

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00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 3: back at you.

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Speaker 5: I see Tlula's mom first and foremost to see my

1141
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 5: daughter because she is my twin. I see someone who

1142
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 5: is juggling a lot of plates, and depending on the mood,

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00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 5: when I look at myself, I sometimes see someone who's like, just.

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Speaker 2: Go find a cleaner for the house.

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00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 5: Or like I see it convincing, like there's there's an

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Speaker 5: argument with my own brain sometimes and then other times

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00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 5: I see someone like yesterday I did a really tough

1148
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 5: workout in between teaching five classes at Peloton, and I

1149
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 5: wasn't feeling one hundred percent, and I knew I had

1150
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 5: so many other things going on in my day. And

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00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 5: I got like three quarters of the workout and I

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00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 5: did it, and I hit my paces And the only

1153
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 5: reason I couldn't do the last quarter because I had

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00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 5: to go and teach another class and I just like

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00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 5: went back in the green room and I had to

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00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 5: get changed from my next class, and I just caught

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00:59:56,120 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 5: this smile on my face and I was like, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: She's back.

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01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 1: She's back.

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Speaker 5: Like there's a part of me there that is like,

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Speaker 5: oh yeah, she was taking a rest last year, and

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01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 5: now there's this like bite back in me that's ready

1163
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 5: ready to like pounce on myself when it comes to

1164
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 5: getting shit done.

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Speaker 4: How do you navigate the overwhelm when you're in it?

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Speaker 2: Ugh, go for a run normally.

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01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I genuinely do, like feel so much better when I've

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01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 5: gone for a run because I can not organize it correctly,

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01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 5: but I can lay it out clearer once I've been

1171
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 5: for a run and identify for me, overwhelmed, it's just

1172
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 5: like too much.

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Speaker 1: It can be too many noises.

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Speaker 5: Like I'm very like ADHD visual and audio stimulated, and

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Speaker 5: sometimes I just need to like just be able to

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Speaker 5: break it down and identify, like, Okay, that is what

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Speaker 5: is overwhelming me.

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Speaker 1: That other things were just like antagonists.

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01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 5: They can still bubble their but this thing, the protagonist here,

1180
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 5: has to die, right, And it's that moment of overwhelm.

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Speaker 5: I'm very emotional. Sometimes I will just cry it out

1182
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 5: for no reason. Then I apologize to anyone who's ever

1183
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 5: been caught in the crossfire of me suddenly just crying

1184
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 5: because it happens. And I don't think that's a weakness

1185
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 5: at all. I hate when people say that's women just

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01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 5: cry or bring it to the workplay.

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Speaker 1: I hate that at all.

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Speaker 5: Actually, some of the most sympathetic leaders in the world

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01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 5: have the ability to cry in front of other people,

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01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 5: and it shows that you're human. It shows that you

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01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 5: feel something, you're not a robot. Yeah, that's how Sometimes

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01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 5: I just have to just sit and cry for a second. Sometimes,

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01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 5: you know, you might just take a toilet break and

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01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 5: just be like when it comes out and you're like,

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01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 5: all right, okay, we can be fond from a therapist

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01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 5: on the other side, and it's like, oh my god.

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Speaker 3: Writ all of these notes on gentry is coping mechanisms.

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Speaker 4: Listen.

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Speaker 3: I can obviously very much relate, and I also agree

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Speaker 3: with you that being sensitive is an a weakness. In fact,

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01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 3: it's you being upfront with what's really happening. What I

1202
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 3: believe to be a weakness is when you don't have

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Speaker 3: the awareness to be that honest with yourself, to get

1204
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:32,440
Speaker 3: in this place where maybe you're approaching burnout, as you

1205
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 3: so beautifully described before, and it is too much to

1206
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 3: handle because you can't acknowledge what's really going on.

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Speaker 1: Yes, squishing it down, can't squish, No, we can't squish.

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Speaker 3: Right now, becks, you have an opportunity to give yourself

1209
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Speaker 3: a piece of advice. I want to give a piece

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Speaker 3: of advice to the becks that's preparing for something that

1211
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 3: feels so much bigger than her, And I'm not just

1212
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Speaker 3: talking about altitude. You have so many tools at your disposal,

1213
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 3: and I know that you know this. So with the

1214
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Speaker 3: tools at your disposal, with this understanding of how these big,

1215
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 3: exciting aspirations can sometimes make us feel, what advice do

1216
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 3: you have to offer to yourself as you prepare for

1217
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 3: this next chapter?

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01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 1: Oh, smell the flowers and blow out the candles.

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01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 2: Just keep breathing.

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Speaker 5: Literally, just keep keep believing, keep breathing, take breaks when

1221
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 5: I need to. Quite literally, you're gonna have to use

1222
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 5: that and lean on the people you can trust.

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Speaker 3: Beautiful. Thanks Gentry. Back on the showy. For those that

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Speaker 3: aren't following along with you just yet, where do they

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Speaker 3: find you? On the socials?

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Speaker 5: You can find me at bechst Gentry b E CSG

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Speaker 5: E N tly or you can tune in to many

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Speaker 5: a class on the peloton app or hardware. You'll find

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Speaker 5: me running, rowing, stretching, strength, thing strength, I'm outdooring.

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Speaker 4: Oh gosh, I can't wait to outdoor with you.

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Speaker 3: I'm over at Emily Body and at Hurdle Podcast Another

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Speaker 3: hurdle conquered.

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Speaker 4: Catch you guys next time