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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Buck Sexton and you're listening to the

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Speaker 1: Tutor Dixon Podcast, part of the Clay Travers and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton podcast Network. Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: Tutor Dixon, and I'm so glad you're here with me

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Speaker 1: today because I get to turn the tables on one

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Speaker 1: of my favorite people today. I have Todd Pyro with

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Speaker 1: me and you are probably familiar with this guy because

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Speaker 1: he's at the anchor desk every morning on Fox News.

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Speaker 1: He's on Fox and Friends first, and we actually met

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Speaker 1: in the green room there where he ran past me

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Speaker 1: and I thought, is that Todd? But then I thought,

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Speaker 1: maybe Todd doesn't actually like me or want to say

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Speaker 1: hello to me. But it's just that he has such

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Speaker 1: a stressful morning job where he wakes up so early

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Speaker 1: that he ran past it. And then he came back

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Speaker 1: and said hello. And so now I get to interview

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Speaker 1: him today, which is really turning the tables, isn't it?

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Speaker 2: Todd totally false news. I ran Passion because I greatly

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Speaker 2: dislike you. I actually was in charge of Gretchen Whitmer's.

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Speaker 1: Campaign No, and he's secretly funny, really funny.

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Speaker 3: And you know, look it was one of those days.

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Speaker 2: Everybody says, Todd, you're frenetic, you twitch a lot, You're

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Speaker 2: always running around with so much energy. That is true,

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Speaker 2: especially during the first half of the day. And so

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Speaker 2: you caught me. I was running around like a lunatic,

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Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, man, kind of felt like

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Speaker 2: I should have said hi to Tudor. So I doubled back.

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Speaker 2: And I'm glad I did because we've had you on

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Speaker 2: the show a bunch more after that, and now I'm

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Speaker 2: on your show. The flip side of that is, and

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Speaker 2: I don't want to like again, we are turning the tables,

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Speaker 2: this is your show, You're asking the questions. But the

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Speaker 2: flip side of that is when I get home, I

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Speaker 2: could not be a more useless human being, like and

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Speaker 2: that's tough.

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Speaker 3: When you have two kids.

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Speaker 1: Now under you're not allowed to do it, it is tough.

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Speaker 2: So look, I'm not saying that my life is a

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Speaker 2: struggle compared to people have real struggles, like I get it.

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Speaker 2: But boy, by Friday, I am pretty tired and I'm

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Speaker 2: not the oh, full of energy Todd that I think

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Speaker 3: So my wife always shows.

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Speaker 1: But you do this with two little kids, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think that days, especially on the campaign trail, there

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Speaker 1: were days where I was like, oh gosh, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm getting up at five taking the kids to school,

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Speaker 1: and then my kids are much older than yours. You

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Speaker 1: are getting up in the middle of the night. I mean,

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Speaker 1: tell us a little bit about how that goes, because

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Speaker 1: I can't even imagine.

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Speaker 2: This isn't a joke like everybody I go Tod's jokie.

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Speaker 2: I literally get up at eleven thirty PM, not a joke,

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Speaker 2: like that's real. And so I do live a little

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Speaker 2: bit further away. I'm not a city guy, especially not

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Speaker 2: I was single, I probably would be. But I'm not single.

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Speaker 2: So I try to get the heck out of here,

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Speaker 2: and so I live pretty far away. But that said,

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Speaker 2: I use that entire trip down to study and prep

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Speaker 2: for the show shows on at four. I'm prepping literally

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Speaker 2: show that we have meetings and then we do other things.

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Speaker 2: Today I did Varney, now I'm doing Yours. And days

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Speaker 2: when I stay late I try to, you know, do

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Speaker 2: a daylight today, I'm going to get home late, and

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Speaker 2: The moment I get home, it's okay, here are the kids.

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Speaker 2: You got to do kids stuff. And then it's you know,

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Speaker 2: the witching hour four to seven, it's bathtime.

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Speaker 3: Then bathtime you may get to get bathtime. You know.

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Speaker 2: Baftime is a process like I don't remember bathtime being

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Speaker 1: But so it goes fast. You think that that's going

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Speaker 2: I think you raise a key point there, Tutor, and

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Speaker 2: it's the fact that this is going away at some point,

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Speaker 2: sense of enjoyment from the math, like you mentioned, I

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Speaker 2: don't know, but I must say the entire process. All

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Speaker 2: go home. But this entire process is well worth it

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Speaker 2: because after bathtime you have reading time, and reading time

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Speaker 2: you get asked questions that are the most hysterical questions

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Speaker 2: in the world, and my favorit. And this is the

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Speaker 2: highlight of my highlight of my day. After all that,

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Speaker 2: we put our first one to bed, and then I

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Speaker 2: all that other stuff. She then runs out and says,

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Speaker 2: one more hug, daddy, And that's the greatest thing.

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Speaker 1: You can't miss that half.

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Speaker 3: It's the best. I love it. I love every minute

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Speaker 1: So you're really in the throes of a little so

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Speaker 1: I will tell you I made a well. My husband

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Speaker 1: says that I made a parenting mistake because I snuggled

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Speaker 1: this is so depressing, but it really is. But they

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Speaker 2: And that's your husband and my wife must have attended

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Speaker 2: the same parenting class because I am verboten from doing

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Speaker 2: the cuddling up in bed and going to sleep at

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Speaker 2: the same time. I suggested if things are going bad,

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Speaker 2: like let the older one cuddle with me, it'll be fine,

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Speaker 2: and she says, no, I guess I'm a cuddler tutor

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Speaker 2: Dixon's account who knew that.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to introduce you now on.

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Speaker 2: Instead of former Michigan goubernatorial can I'm gonna say, noted

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Speaker 2: cuddler tutor Dixon joins us on the program and you

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Speaker 2: can do the same to me.

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Speaker 1: I think that's gonna go bad for both of us

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Speaker 4: Worn one day, there's gonna be a lot of questions there.

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Speaker 1: But that's true with kids, absolutely, one hundred percent. And

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Speaker 1: I think that's important. I think it's important to know

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Speaker 3: It's scary percent right on that look.

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Speaker 2: When we were growing up, it was you have to

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Speaker 2: And we give these like multiple choice things, try to

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Speaker 2: all of us, And it's an uncomfortable conversation. But I'd

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Speaker 1: I know, I think that there's so many things to

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Speaker 2: that's one thing. The fact that a five year old

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Speaker 2: Because I'm a lawyer by trade, I didn't sit there

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Speaker 2: So you see what happened in twenty twenty two, you

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Speaker 2: whole heck of a lot of people that are definitely

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Speaker 2: pro cop. If you're at National Police Week and you

436
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Speaker 2: are yourself a police officer, and they were like, I

437
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Speaker 2: don't know you, who are you? And I don't take

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Speaker 2: offense to that. That just shows that they're they're not

439
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Speaker 2: watching the content of us, and they even say, I go,

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Speaker 2: I don't watch the news. Well, to your point, you

441
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Speaker 2: got to hit those people because they're not being educated

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Speaker 2: on a number of issues by you, And so that's

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Speaker 2: an opportunity for the Democrats who are really good at elections.

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Speaker 1: I had this moment. I went to DC with my

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Speaker 1: daughter's eighth grade a couple of weeks ago, so it

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Speaker 1: talked to eight yes.

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Speaker 4: Yes.

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Speaker 1: So I had this moment where I came down in

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Speaker 1: the morning in the hotel and the kids are all

450
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Speaker 1: getting ready and the parents are about to have their meeting,

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Speaker 1: and I am watching the TV because I'm waiting to see,

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Speaker 1: you know, what the morning news is. I like made

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Speaker 1: a conscious effort to look around, and I thought, not

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Speaker 1: one of these parents even cares. That's they don't. It's

455
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Speaker 1: not their mindset, you know. They don't think about what's

456
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Speaker 1: going on in the world a minute they wake up

457
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Speaker 1: and that has to be somewhat free. And you know,

458
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Speaker 1: but when it's your career, when it's what you do

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Speaker 1: every day, it's almost like you wake up and you're like,

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Speaker 1: I have to know what is happening in the world.

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Speaker 1: And I remember during the day I got some breaking

462
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Speaker 1: news I can't remember it was, and it was pretty shocking.

463
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Speaker 1: I said, oh, you know, this is happening, and they

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Speaker 1: were like, oh, how do you even know that? And

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Speaker 1: it struck me so many people live outside of this

466
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Speaker 1: bubble of news and really feel great about not having

467
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Speaker 1: to live it. And so they know nothing about you

468
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Speaker 1: or me, or people running or they probably don't even

469
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Speaker 1: know in many cases the congressmen in their state. They

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Speaker 1: may know their own, but they probably don't know the

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Speaker 1: other ones. And so when you talk about what's happening

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Speaker 1: in government and what Republicans are putting out there, these

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Speaker 1: people are not hearing it. And I think you're making

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Speaker 1: a really good point. Republicans still think they're doing it.

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Speaker 1: They came out and they talked to you, and they said,

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Speaker 1: now we're going to talk to the people. But I've

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Speaker 1: talked to folks in Jacksonville and said what happened? And again,

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Speaker 1: I can tell you that the tools that the Democrats

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Speaker 1: are using to meet people, the technology, the micro targeting,

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Speaker 1: the AI that they are using to get into the

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Speaker 1: minds and hearts of people and manipulate them into going

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Speaker 1: out and voting, but also just the constant contact of

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Speaker 1: going to their door and getting them out there. We

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Speaker 1: are not doing that. And that is not something that

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Speaker 1: happens from one person or from one organization. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: come from just the RNC, because it certainly doesn't come

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Speaker 1: from the DNC. It is a massive amount of organizations

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Speaker 1: that work together across the country. How did we get

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Speaker 1: this far behind?

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Speaker 2: From what I've been told? And again, you would know

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Speaker 2: this way better than me. It seems like the consultant

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Speaker 2: class is very good at taking the money and not

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Speaker 2: on the Republican side, I should say, taking the money

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Speaker 2: and not putting forth the solutions that lead to victory.

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Speaker 2: Is that an accurate assessment?

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Speaker 1: Well, absolutely, because if you're a consultant and you lose,

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Speaker 1: you still win. Because see, in the world of elections,

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Speaker 1: the data is the value you Right, So if you

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Speaker 1: lose your election, but you've run the election in that area,

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Speaker 1: then you can go to the next candidate and say,

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Speaker 1: let me run your election because I own all of

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Speaker 1: the information here. And the value of a race is

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Speaker 1: the information. Having that in your back pocket so you

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Speaker 1: can email people, so you can call people. It's all

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Speaker 1: right there. And so the consultant will actually make more

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Speaker 1: money because they will say, you know, I can I

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Speaker 1: can lend this to you, I can, I can make

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Speaker 1: money from this. And I mean, we had a consultant

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Speaker 1: in Michigan. I talked to a guy who is running

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Speaker 1: a data organization and he said in twenty sixteen, I

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Speaker 1: paid sixty million dollars for the data in Michigan. Sixty

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Speaker 1: million dollars. Does that blow your mind?

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Speaker 2: You can understand why in twenty fifteen and twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 2: the establishment, the entire establishment, Republicans, Democrats did not like

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Speaker 2: Trump because he kind of did all this on his own.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm sure you have some data. I'm not saying,

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Speaker 2: you know, completely on his own. But he was an outsider,

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Speaker 2: and he approached the election as an outsider. And look

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Speaker 2: what happened when he kind of went a little bit

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Speaker 2: more of the system. He lost right when he used

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Speaker 2: the data, when he had that whole intense data operation.

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Speaker 2: Now look, I'm not saying I'm anti data. I'm agreeing

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent with your point. The system doesn't necessarily

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Speaker 2: care about winning and losing. The system cares about self

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Speaker 2: propagating itself.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on

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Speaker 1: the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I think we have to have

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Speaker 1: that balance always of Republicans and Democrats, and it scares

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Speaker 1: me that Republicans are not on that same playing field

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Speaker 1: because if we end up as one party, we are

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Speaker 1: just a mess. And that's always been the great balancer

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Speaker 1: in the United States. But man, weird things are happening,

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Speaker 1: Strange things are going on. It's just a different world,

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Speaker 1: and to me, it is very scary if we don't

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Speaker 1: get on top of that and figure it out. But

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Speaker 1: it is, I guess, a part of the process, and

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Speaker 1: we're learning along the way, and it's good that we

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Speaker 1: have people like you out there talking about this stuff.

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Speaker 1: But I want to get to something because you mentioned

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Speaker 1: that your an attorney. So this is very interesting to

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Speaker 1: me because I didn't know that about you until I

542
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Speaker 1: started stalking you so I could do this podcast and

543
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Speaker 1: not any other reason. But I did find out whoa

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Speaker 1: This is weird because generally you think of people who

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Speaker 1: are doing in an anchor position like you are, as

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Speaker 1: someone who has studied this their whole life, a journalist

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Speaker 1: their whole life. But how did you know you did?

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Speaker 1: You were an attorney, but it seems like you kind

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Speaker 1: of always knew this was the place you want to do.

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Speaker 2: You nail the key question. So when I was in college,

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Speaker 2: I knew I wanted to do this. My problem was

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Speaker 2: I went to college in a really small New Hampshire town.

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Speaker 2: I didn't grow up in New York City, but I

554
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Speaker 2: grew up pretty close and I didn't know if I

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Speaker 2: could go off to that small market in the middle

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Speaker 2: of nowhere for another two years, two three years after

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Speaker 2: having been in New Hampshire for four years. So I said,

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Speaker 2: combine that with the fact that my dad's a lawyer,

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Speaker 2: I'm kind of interested in the law, and the fact

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Speaker 2: that I want to have backup plans and I want

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Speaker 2: to make a little money before I trialed. Is all

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Speaker 2: this went into the decision, Hey, let me apply to

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Speaker 2: law school. So I applied, got into UCLA, said I'm

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Speaker 2: going to go to LA because LA is where you

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Speaker 2: do entertainment. Horrible connecting of ideas there, they have nothing

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Speaker 2: to do with one another. But I loved UCLA, Love

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Speaker 2: the experience, loved being in LA. Love the fact that

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Speaker 2: I got to watch some college football and my favorite game.

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Speaker 2: It's the hottest I've ever been in life. Ucla versus Michigan,

570
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Speaker 2: so UCLA won. I literally sweated out eighteen thousand bottles

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Speaker 2: of water that tech. So practice after law school, I

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Speaker 2: practiced for four and a half years out in LA.

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Speaker 2: But during the entire time that I was out there

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Speaker 2: doing the law, I kept up with my connections in

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Speaker 2: broadcasting because in college I interned in New York City

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Speaker 2: at WABC seven, which is the NBABC O.

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Speaker 3: And O station.

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Speaker 2: Here, I interned at Good Morning America, and I interned

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Speaker 2: at a young, upstar art news channel called the Fox

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Speaker 2: News Channel. And so yes, I was in this building

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Speaker 2: back in nineteen ninety eight and nineteen ninety nine. And

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Speaker 2: when the time came ready to make my resume tape,

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Speaker 2: which was in around two thousand and six, two thousand

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Speaker 2: and seven, I would come back to the East Coast

585
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Speaker 2: for your friend's weddings. That's the time of your life

586
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Speaker 2: when everybody's getting married, and I would take a few

587
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Speaker 2: extra days off of law the law firm, and I

588
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Speaker 2: would go out with reporters in these in New York

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Speaker 2: City and make my resume tape. And there eventually got

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Speaker 2: a resume tape together, and in two thousand and eight

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Speaker 2: I sent it out, got my first job in Palm Springs, California,

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Speaker 2: and the rest is history. But to answer your question, yes,

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Speaker 2: I've always wanted to do this. I am not broadcast trained.

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Speaker 2: I think that's completely evident when you watch Fox and

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Speaker 2: Friends first from four to six AM, Eastern Time. But

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Speaker 2: I think I bring something different to the table, and

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Speaker 2: you know that's what I love about Fox.

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Speaker 3: I am me. You've met me, for better or for worse.

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Speaker 3: This is how I am on air, off air in life.

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Speaker 2: The only time I'm not like this is when I

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Speaker 2: reached that like I'm about to die, not tired, and

602
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Speaker 2: then I become no fun whatsoever.

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Speaker 3: I am real. This is me, for better or for worse.

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Speaker 2: And I think that translates to TV. And I think

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Speaker 2: that's what the Fox audience likes. Whether that would translate

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Speaker 2: it into one place, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: No, I think that is. It's funny because somebody said

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Speaker 1: to me once, TV is different. News is different than

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Speaker 1: what it used to be. It used to be that

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Speaker 1: you wanted to see your news anchor and they were

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Speaker 1: very serious and you believed that they understood the news

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Speaker 1: and they were getting it across to you. And over

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Speaker 1: years it's shifted and now people want to see someone

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Speaker 1: that they think that they could go out and have

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Speaker 1: lunch with. And I think that does come across with

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Speaker 1: you and whoever you're co hosting with. That's not a journey.

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Speaker 1: Right at the moment, I'm supposed to say You're right,

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Speaker 1: it's true because I don't know what's happening with you,

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Speaker 1: but you send ten to send people away.

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Speaker 2: Say for the stat from October twenty twenty one to

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Speaker 2: the present, one of the top two women in my

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Speaker 2: day in and day out life. I mean, I love

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Speaker 2: my mother, but I don't see her every day people

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Speaker 2: I see every day or my wife and my co anchor.

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Speaker 2: One of those two individuals has been pregnant since October

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Speaker 2: of twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 3: Think about that for a moment. Think about that. I'm

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Speaker 3: not well.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad I don't spend that much time around you

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Speaker 1: because I'm definitely done with that. I don't want whatever

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Speaker 1: that weird.

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Speaker 4: Ses enough oh Joe is to Yeah, enough for sure,

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Speaker 4: But no, I think it's a I think you are

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Speaker 4: so real with the women too.

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Speaker 1: I think that's the coolest part. And probably you know

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Speaker 1: you're going through that too. You have a little one

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Speaker 1: and you have a toddler, and that's neat that you

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Speaker 1: can share that with the people on that are on

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Speaker 1: TV with you. I can't imagine what it's like to

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Speaker 1: be mom and have to get up at the time

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Speaker 1: that you get up. I mean, no offense we're.

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Speaker 3: Going to see.

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Speaker 2: Really, I don't want to talk out of school here

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Speaker 2: with my private conversations with the lovely and talented Carly Shimkiss,

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Speaker 2: but I will say there's been a little bit of

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Speaker 2: like she's like, heck, am I going to do this?

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Speaker 2: And there's some truth to tarn.

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Speaker 1: I think that's as a I think that people don't

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Speaker 1: realize that moms. A lot of women have to work

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Speaker 1: now and it is really tough to step away. I

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Speaker 1: can't imagine stepping away at that critical night time when

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Speaker 1: you have feedings and all of that and they're waking

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Speaker 1: up and it's hard. You're just you are exhausted all

654
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Speaker 1: the time. I give them credit for being able to

655
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Speaker 1: do it, even when you're pregnant. You're like that. So

656
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Speaker 1: then after having the baby, I can't imagine. But you

657
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Speaker 1: guys are champs. I love watching you every morning. I

658
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: love the fact that you're real, and I think that's

659
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Speaker 1: what that's really the appeal to Fox in general. There

660
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: are most of the hosts there are just themselves, and

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Speaker 1: that's what I think people want. When I go there,

662
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: everyone is so awesome. You go into the green rooms,

663
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Speaker 1: everybody is just so normal. There's No, there's no personalities

664
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Speaker 1: that are big and think they're better than anyone else.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I haven't run into those people yet.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you have, well, except when they run past you

667
00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 2: and ignore you on their way to go to it.

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Speaker 1: Right outside of Todd.

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Speaker 2: But you're thinking about Carly, you know, Look, I think

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Speaker 2: you raise a really interesting and important point. It's got

671
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 2: to be really tough for her, and it's going to

672
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 2: be really tough for her when she comes back because

673
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 2: she is not going to be there for those nighttime.

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Speaker 3: Feedings and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: So I think you've just given me a great reminder

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Speaker 2: that as a man, as a husband who's gone through

677
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Speaker 2: similar stuff with his own wife, I'm gonna have to

678
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 2: be cognizant of that and kind of step my game

679
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 2: up in that area too, because I think ultimately that's

680
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 2: going to make for the better show, because there is

681
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 2: going to be a sense of like every now and

682
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 2: to get a little mom guilt it's not me again

683
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 2: speaking out of school. Turn like it's real, it exists,

684
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 2: it is a thing, and you know, I need to

685
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 2: step up my game to make sure that paying attention

686
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 2: to that and reading certain cues here and there and

687
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 2: kind of stepping up for the betterment of the show,

688
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 2: and quite frankly, because she's my sister. You know, we

689
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 2: have a weird sister brother relationship. If we were under

690
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 2: the same roof, that would be a really weird household

691
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 2: for the parents because we are two very odd people

692
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 2: in reality, and Carly seems normal. We're both very odd,

693
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Speaker 2: and so you know, I got to protect my sister,

694
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 2: she protects her brother, and I think it's going to

695
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 2: be funny to see what happens when she comes back.

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Speaker 1: I love that, and I think that really goes to

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Speaker 1: what we're seeing right now in society. That's why I

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00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: think you see so many women who are really genuinely

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00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,959
Speaker 1: hurt inside when they see people raising up men and

700
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Speaker 1: saying they can be mothers and they can be this

701
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Speaker 1: because it's hard, it's different. Nobody can really understand the

702
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: things that you go through, that your body goes through,

703
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: that you go through that you are, the emotions that

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00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: you go through being torn away from your child like

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Speaker 1: that for even just a few hours. It is really

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Speaker 1: different than what I think anyone else can imagine. And

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Speaker 1: I just appreciate the fact that you are willing to

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00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: say that and point that out and understand that. And

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Speaker 1: I think that that's it's a time when it's a

710
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Speaker 1: good place. It's a good time to celebrate what women

711
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: actually do. And how amazing there and Carly is. I mean,

712
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: she is awesome and she's stunning. And here's a mom

713
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: who can be stunning and sexy and still sensitive and

714
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 1: she's out there every day talking to us and we're

715
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Speaker 1: excited to have her back. Is it next two weeks

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Speaker 1: from now that she comes out?

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I actually don't know if I'm allowed to announce. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if that's been public. Like I know the

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Speaker 2: date and I can tell you off camera, but I

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Speaker 2: don't know if I.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I thought, but that I thought I heard her

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Speaker 1: talk about it when she came on to celebrate the

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Speaker 1: to celebrate the other pregnancy on your show.

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Speaker 3: Did she say when Ashley announced?

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Speaker 1: I think that she did. I think, But maybe I'm wrong. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: we won't talk about it. We'll just be excited when

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Speaker 1: she does come back. And before you go, I will

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Speaker 1: just tell you that when you were interning, I was

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Speaker 1: also interning in New York. How weird is this? It

731
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Speaker 1: was ninety nine, two thousand, I was turning at the

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Speaker 1: Rosy O'donald show.

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Speaker 3: Whoa oh oh.

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Speaker 2: I have so many questions about stories I have heard,

735
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 2: but again.

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Speaker 1: This is another show. We will talk about that another time.

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Speaker 1: And then I went to Oxygen. Oxygen was just starting up.

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Speaker 1: It was in the Chelsea Markets and I started a

739
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Speaker 1: show there. But I was just like a you know,

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Speaker 1: an intern and but it was I mean, how funny

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Speaker 1: we were there at the same time. So anyway, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for coming on today. It was a

743
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 1: great conversation. It is always and I'm so glad that

744
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: people got to actually get to know you because, like

745
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: you said, you are who you are on the show.

746
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 1: But I think that it just makes people go, oh,

747
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: I really do know him in the morning, and that's

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Speaker 1: exciting for me.

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Speaker 3: For better or for worse.

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Speaker 1: But you can't do it.

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Speaker 3: This is what you get.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much. I appreciate having you on,

753
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: like Wes, thanks for having me, yes, and thank you

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Speaker 1: all for joining us on the Tutor Dixon Podcast for

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00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: this episode and others. As always, go to Tutor dixonpodcast

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Speaker 1: dot com. You can subscribe right there and make sure

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Speaker 1: you join us the next time on the Tutor Dixon Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Have an awesome day,