WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Hold On Hope 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:04.560 Hi again, everybody. 0:00:04.600 --> 0:00:08.360 I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading The Bengals Booth Podcast. 0:00:08.520 --> 0:00:13.480 The Everybody's Got a Hold on Hope addition, as the 0:00:13.520 --> 0:00:16.160 Bengals try to keep their playoff hopes alive by winning 0:00:16.160 --> 0:00:20.799 their third straight on Sunday versus Cleveland, coming up ten 0:00:20.880 --> 0:00:24.480 great minutes with one of my favorite NFL analysts, Greg Cosell. 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:27.000 A one on one player interview this week is with 0:00:27.080 --> 0:00:30.760 Cam Taylor brid who says his confidence is back, and 0:00:30.960 --> 0:00:33.720 in our Know the Faux segment, Zach Jackson from The 0:00:33.760 --> 0:00:38.040 Athletic discusses a rough year in Cleveland. 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We truly appreciate all of 0:01:57.680 --> 0:02:00.240 the fans who come out to our shows. I have 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:03.480 to give a special shout out to Nita, the official 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:07.680 baker of the Bengals Radio Network. Now let's get to 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:11.840 my first guest. It is always a highlight of the 0:02:11.880 --> 0:02:15.200 season to visit with the great Greg Cosel from NFL 0:02:15.280 --> 0:02:19.160 Films and the ESPN Matchup Show. Greg, Let's start with 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:22.840 Jamar Chase, who's having a phenomenal season. When you watch 0:02:22.880 --> 0:02:25.280 him play this year and the way the Bengals are 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:27.519 using him, what stands out to you. 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:31.200 Well, I think a number of things. I think he 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:34.639 lines up in multiple locations within the formation, and I 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:37.600 always think that's really important for a receiver, particularly when 0:02:37.600 --> 0:02:41.200 you get the third downs, because obviously defenses are looking 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:45.000 at times bracket double whatever they choose to do. And 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:47.760 because te Higgins hasn't played all season, that would be 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:50.239 often the case this year that I would notice on film. 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:52.640 So you want to move him around, you want to 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:55.120 use motion. They're not one of the top four or 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:57.400 five motion teams in the league, but they're selective with 0:02:57.480 --> 0:02:59.679 it and they do a really nice job with it 0:02:59.760 --> 0:03:03.400 to create opportunities for Chase, not only with his motion 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:06.440 but with motion by other players that dictate how the 0:03:06.480 --> 0:03:10.120 defense has to react and presents Chase if its zone, 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:13.960 in particular, with opportunities. Obviously, if it's man, he can 0:03:13.960 --> 0:03:16.720 beat man. I mean, I just remember a play from 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:18.880 this week, obviously because I just watched the tape from 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:21.920 this week, but the twenty nine yarder early in the 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:24.480 game when they I think it was Herbert not Brown 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:26.920 in the backfield and Herbert went in motion to make 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:29.280 it a four strong look and it just created a 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:32.680 one on one for Chase on the back side. And 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:35.400 it was just a slant, but it's Chase, so you 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:37.760 know you set that up, it's one on one. He's 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:41.920 phenomenal on after cat things like that. But overall, I'd 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:45.640 say this, there may be no better quarterback receiver duo 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:49.600 in the league. Working outside the numbers. They just kill 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:52.840 you outside the numbers, and no matter what the coverage is, 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:56.920 it becomes man to man outside the numbers, and that's 0:03:56.960 --> 0:03:59.880 where they are so effective. And you know Dan from 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:02.280 so you know from doing the games that when Joe 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:05.840 Burrows sees one on one outside the numbers, he's throwing 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:06.880 the football. 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:09.320 And throwing it exactly where he wants to throw it. 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:11.720 Let's talk about the year that Joe is having. Leads 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:13.840 the NFL in yards by more than two hundred, he 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:17.400 leads the NFL in touchdown passes. Greg how has he 0:04:17.480 --> 0:04:20.240 evolved from the guy you liked so much coming out 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:20.800 of LSU. 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:24.000 I'll tell you what really stands out. Look, you know, 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:26.400 we can talk about him forever obviously, and he has 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:29.240 traits with you and I have spoken about, you know, 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:31.320 both at the combine and when I've spoken to you 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:34.839 doing podcasts. But I think the thing that really stands 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:37.960 out to me is how comfortable a player he is 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:41.320 when he moves, you know, because no one said he 0:04:41.360 --> 0:04:43.120 was a statue when he came out, but you didn't 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:44.719 think of him as a guy that was going to 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:47.359 move around. Now, unfortunately, because of the nature of the 0:04:47.400 --> 0:04:50.120 old line through the years, he's probably had to move 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:53.920 more than he's wanted to. But he's so comfortable when 0:04:53.960 --> 0:04:57.160 he moves, and there's chaos all around him, and he 0:04:57.240 --> 0:05:00.640 never seems hurry. He never seems for Netik. He always 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:04.320 seems controlled and calculated. He has a tremendous knack for 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:08.520 them sort of resetting his throwing platform and delivering the football. 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:11.080 He's done that this year. I don't chart it, but 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:12.880 it seems to me he's done it this year more 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:14.880 than he ever has. You may you know, you obviously 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:17.359 see every play every week and you're you're closer to 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:19.640 the team than I am. But it just seems to 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:21.800 me as if he's done that more than ever and 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:24.760 he's just so good at it, and it looks easy. 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:28.039 I mean, it looks like it's effortless almost the way 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:31.520 he moves to find a quieter spot to deliver the football. 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:35.599 Let's move to Chase Brown. He's got six straight games 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:38.279 now with ninety or more scrimmage yards. What has he 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:39.760 added to this offense? 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:43.160 Yeah, I think he fits really well in what they 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:45.760 are because essentially they want to run the ball. They're 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:48.400 not just you know, drop back and throw it. But 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:52.120 I think he fits in the sense that he's a determined, urgent, 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:55.320 decisive downhill runner Dan. I mean, he's got burst, he's 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:59.360 got velocity, there's a physical presence to him. He finishes runs, 0:05:59.760 --> 0:06:02.320 but he can generate some explosive runs because he does 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:05.680 have that speed if memory serves me correctly. Not that 0:06:06.000 --> 0:06:07.760 this is the way you judge backs, but I think 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:09.599 he was in the four to four range when he 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:12.760 came out of Illinois, So you know he's not he's 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:16.279 not a plotter, and you know he's sort of grown 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:19.400 into being the feature back. He's got good size. They 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:22.599 pretty much stay downhill with him because that's what he 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:25.600 does best. And and by the way, I don't think 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:27.680 their old line is overly athletics, so I think it 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:30.279 makes sense to have that kind of run game where 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:32.720 you you just have them fire off the ball instead 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:36.800 of trying to get outside. But you know, I think 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:39.640 he's He's just a good player and in the context 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:42.520 of this offense, and obviously Burrow and Chase will be there. 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:44.600 You know, I doubt Chase they're gonna let him walk. 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:47.200 We'll see what happens, but I would doubt that very much. 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:50.320 And we'll see what happens with the other receiver situation 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:53.080 with Higgins. But they're going to be a really good 0:06:53.120 --> 0:06:55.760 passing team as long as Burrow and Chas are there, 0:06:55.800 --> 0:06:57.839 and I think Brown fits that really well. 0:06:58.040 --> 0:07:00.240 We are chatting with a great Greg co Cell. We 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:02.839 saw each other at the combine and discussed the Marius 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:06.279 Mims before the Bengals selected him. How is he doing 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:07.479 as a rookie in your opinion? 0:07:08.000 --> 0:07:09.840 I think through a good part of the season he 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:12.680 was very inconsistent, And by inconsistent, I know that's a 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:15.840 word that's cliched, but where he'd have some good snaps 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:18.200 and some poor snaps. But I've noticed I think over 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:21.000 the last couple of weeks. This week I noticed it 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:23.720 in particular, and he played against some pretty good players 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:27.720 in Key and Landry. These are not poor players on Tennessee. 0:07:27.920 --> 0:07:29.920 People might think, oh, Tennessee's a bad team, but those 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:32.640 are not poor players. I think he's getting better. I 0:07:32.640 --> 0:07:34.840 think he's playing with better balance. I think he's playing 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:37.560 with better body control. I think his feet are under 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:40.280 him more. I don't know if that's just coaching. I 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:43.160 don't know if that's experience, but I think he's over 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:46.920 the last couple of weeks, has looked like a better player, 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:48.840 like the kind of player I think a lot of 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:51.040 people thought he could be, because there are a lot 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:53.280 of people, as you well know, that knew that he 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:56.960 needed experience and coaching and time, but thought that he 0:07:57.040 --> 0:08:00.280 potentially could be the best tackle in the draft. And 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:01.640 I'm not going to sit here and say that's what 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:03.600 he is because I don't think the tape shows that 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:04.960 yet necessarily. 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:07.040 But I think he's improved over time. 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:09.640 The Bengals have a couple of guys that I thought 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:13.120 were playing extremely well before they suffered season ending injuries, 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:17.119 Dax Hill making the switch to outside corner and rookie 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:18.400 tight end Eric Al. 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:19.720 What did you think of those two? 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:24.200 Yeah, well, I remember we talked about Dax Hill and 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:25.800 you had mentioned to me at the combine that you 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:28.400 thought they would make that move, and I thought he 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:31.000 played well. And he's got the size, he's got the speed, 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:34.559 he's got the movement, you know, and obviously at corner 0:08:35.080 --> 0:08:37.800 it's different. You don't have to be someone who dissects 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:39.880 the way you do it safety and I think that 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:42.360 as you and I discussed, you know, the coaching staff 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:45.600 felt that his strength wasn't dissecting things in front of him. 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:47.240 So at corner you don't have to do that. You 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:49.440 can just play to your athletic traits. And he's a 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:52.040 high level athlete. I mean, you saw that when I 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:54.160 did him coming out of Michigan. You could just see 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:57.800 how athletic he is. And he's got good size. So 0:08:57.880 --> 0:09:02.040 that's a loss. All is a really intriguing guy, and 0:09:02.080 --> 0:09:05.960 it's a shame because he's another guy that has really 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:09.120 good athletic traits. I think he's a three level dimension. 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:11.360 In the past game, he can run the seam, he 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:14.320 can run those you know, some vertical routes, intermediate routes. 0:09:15.160 --> 0:09:17.440 I'm real anxious to see where his career goes. You know, 0:09:17.480 --> 0:09:20.640 he'll be there next year obviously, you know, so many 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:22.880 of these tight ends in college, as you know, they 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:24.800 don't catch a lot of balls. I mean, I remember 0:09:24.840 --> 0:09:26.959 George Kittle, I think caught twenty one and twenty two 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:29.160 balls in his last two years at Iowa, and he's 0:09:29.160 --> 0:09:31.480 turned out to be okay in the NFL. So and 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:34.160 obviously Eric All played at Iowa in his last year 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:39.400 after transferring, So you know, so a lot of these 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:43.480 tight ends don't necessarily have big numbers coming out of college. 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:46.199 But I think he has a chance to be you know, 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:48.240 I don't want to sit here and say volume receivers 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:50.400 if next year he's going to catch ninety balls, but 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:53.600 I think that he's He's a really good prospect who 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:54.880 has a chance to be a good player. 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:57.959 What do you consider to be some of the biggest 0:09:58.000 --> 0:09:59.800 issues they've had on defense this year? 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:03.040 I think two things stand out to me. Lack of 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:06.920 pass rush, lack of consistent pass rush. I mean, Henderson's 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:09.760 a really good player, but they don't really get a 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:12.200 ton of pressure on the quarterback they have an all season, 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:15.760 and that changes everything about your defense. If you can't 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:19.439 pressure the quarterback, it's hard to play defense in this league. 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:22.120 And I think the corner position has been up and down, 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:25.760 and so those two things, you know, there's probably no 0:10:25.920 --> 0:10:29.640 two worse combinations than that right there. Inability to pressure 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:34.120 the quarterback and kind of inconsistent corner play. And you know, 0:10:34.200 --> 0:10:36.600 we know Taylor Britt was binged and then played. We 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:39.840 know that Turner's out, you know, been hurt. They're having 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:42.400 to play Newton, who I'm sure before the season as 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:45.319 a rookie they didn't expect him to be playing meaningful snaps. 0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:49.320 You know, look, he only played in dining this week. 0:10:49.360 --> 0:10:51.319 But all of a sudden, Marco Wilson's out there. You know, 0:10:51.360 --> 0:10:53.960 I didn't even realize they signed him, you know, So 0:10:54.480 --> 0:10:57.080 you know, it's you start reaching the bottom of the barrel, 0:10:57.160 --> 0:10:59.079 and it's it's just been hard. 0:10:59.320 --> 0:11:00.240 If you can't run the. 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:03.960 Quarterback with any kind of meaningful pressure and your corner 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:05.880 play is not what you really need it to be, 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:08.360 your defense is going to suffer. 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:11.439 The Browns are coming to town this week. They are 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:15.800 going with Dorian Thompson Robinson at quarterback instead of Jamis Winston. 0:11:16.200 --> 0:11:17.600 What are going to be some of the case for 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:22.440 Cincinnati to complete a regular season sweep of the Browns, Well, 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:23.320 he's a quarterback. 0:11:23.360 --> 0:11:24.800 That you have to make sure you keep him in 0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:26.760 the pocket. And they know this. This is not a 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:29.640 profound statement. You know, he's a guy at this point 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:31.920 in his career that's not going to see it really well. 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:34.000 And so when he doesn't see it well, he's going 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:36.120 to look to run. And he's very very athletic and 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:39.360 he can do that. So however you choose to do it, 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:41.960 there's multiple ways in which you can attempt to keep 0:11:42.000 --> 0:11:45.040 a quarterback in the pocket. Maybe they'll use a spy. 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:48.120 Certainly Davis Gather who's now basically a full time player 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:49.640 since Wilson's out for the year. 0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:52.280 He's a very athletic kid. They could use him as 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:52.640 a spy. 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:55.400 They could, you know, try to create that mush rush 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:58.160 that everybody talks about. There's multiple ways to do it, 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:01.160 but you can't let him be you with his legs. 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:04.000 You must make him sit in the pocket, read it 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:06.080 out and deliver the football. 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:08.439 Greg, this is always a treat for me. I really 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:11.560 appreciate your time. Happy holidays and thanks for joining us. 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:13.600 Oh thanks Dan, It's always a pleasure. 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:17.960 As Greg mentioned when I asked him about the Bengals defense, 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:20.440 the play of the cornerbacks has been up and down 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:23.559 this year, and that's certainly true of Cam Taylor Britt, 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:25.880 who is expected to be one of the bengals best 0:12:25.920 --> 0:12:29.560 defensive players going into the season. The good news is 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:32.880 that his play is trending up and I discuss that 0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:35.920 and more with the Bengals twenty five year old corner. 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:37.560 Cam. 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:40.600 You've got two interceptions in the last three games, including 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:43.360 the pick six in the Pittsburgh game. You've given up 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:47.040 twenty six or fewer receiving yards in all three of 0:12:47.080 --> 0:12:50.920 those games. How has this stretch impacted how you feel 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:51.720 about your season? 0:12:52.400 --> 0:12:54.199 And honestly, it's just giving my confidence back. 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:58.240 Honestly, when it all comes down to it, I believe 0:12:58.280 --> 0:13:02.640 you know, everybody saw the I would say downfall of 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:04.760 the stretch in the beginning of the season, and. 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:07.000 They were by my side, you know, everybody in the building. 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:08.960 You know, it was kind of pushed me to you know, 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:10.560 just you know, just home back in, you know, with 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:12.959 yourself and your craft, and you know, just don't think 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:15.199 too big on a lot of things, you know, And uh, 0:13:15.360 --> 0:13:18.160 I believe in this position, uh you confidence is your 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:20.040 biggest thing, you know, and when you don't have that, 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:23.240 and when you don't believe in yourself. I believe that's 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:26.080 when you you know, you see things different and not 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:28.640 like you did before. You know, so I really, you know, 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:31.360 I just found that that happiness back on the field again. 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:33.240 You know, uh, you know, just doing my job to 0:13:33.280 --> 0:13:35.480 the best of my ability. You know, just make sure 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:38.760 it's not no nothing bad for the team. 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:42.400 I think a lot of us would have said there's 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:44.120 a geese and chance he goes to the Pro Bowl 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:47.880 this year. Prior to this season. From a technical standpoint, 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:50.920 what went wrong in your play I think. 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:52.920 I was just you know, wanted to play plays. You know. 0:13:53.160 --> 0:13:56.000 I feel like, yes, I watched enough film, but I 0:13:56.120 --> 0:13:58.240 was in the backfield. Doesn't the quarterback's not thrown to 0:13:58.320 --> 0:14:00.480 you at the end of the day. You may know 0:14:00.480 --> 0:14:02.920 where the spot may be and everything, but they don't 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:03.800 have to run that route. 0:14:03.880 --> 0:14:04.920 Yes, his concepts and. 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:07.959 Everything, but yeah, you're playing against players, you know now 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:10.559 late in the season, not the playbook. 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:14.680 We're chatting with Cam Taylor Brett. I asked cornerbacks coach 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:18.040 Chuck Burks about you recently. Here's what he said, quote, 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:20.200 I don't have a lack of faith or a lack 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:22.880 of confidence in Cam I know he wants to be great. 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:25.240 I know it's important to him, and I know the 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:28.880 team is important to him. At any point, did you 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:33.240 wonder if coaches or teammates were starting to lose a 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:33.840 little faith? 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:39.360 Not a bit, Honestly, I got calls, texts from everyone 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:42.640 in the building just telling me, you know that everything 0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:44.480 was gonna be fine. You know, like I said, home, 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:47.600 back in with yourself and then fire your piece, you 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:50.680 know again, go back to your why. Troy Henderson we 0:14:50.720 --> 0:14:54.400 had a great conversation and he was basically just telling me, 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:56.400 you know, at the end of the day, man, but 0:14:56.600 --> 0:14:58.080 with your highs and your lows, you have to be 0:14:58.120 --> 0:14:58.440 the same. 0:14:58.520 --> 0:14:59.200 It doesn't matter. 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:01.760 You can't let your eyes you know, you get the 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:04.280 big head and everything about you know last year or 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:06.640 you know, the things that you've done before, because you know, 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:08.320 you still got to go out and do it every day. 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:11.640 And Monday, we saw Dax Hill walk through the locker room, 0:15:11.800 --> 0:15:14.680 first time we've seen him since he had his ACL surgery. 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:17.360 He seemed to be in great spirits. He even joked 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:20.480 about trying to practice this week. What did he show 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:22.760 you in the five games he played this year at 0:15:22.760 --> 0:15:23.400 your position? 0:15:23.520 --> 0:15:25.560 Outside corner man. 0:15:25.640 --> 0:15:28.640 Honestly, the versatility that he has and then and what 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:32.760 he could do transferring basically over to corner. 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:33.720 Is not easy. 0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:39.080 Uh well, I think I'm fifth year now playing corner, 0:15:39.360 --> 0:15:42.560 sixth year a belizo man. He did it in a 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:46.280 couple of months, you know, And it's not easy, Like 0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:48.080 I said, to be on that island, you're not You're 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:50.920 not in the back of the defense, you know, seeing 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:53.160 everything you know from afar, you up close and personal. 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:55.480 And and I really you know, he head on to 0:15:55.600 --> 0:15:58.120 that that spot, you know, uh and did it well. 0:15:58.520 --> 0:16:00.960 You know, I feel like tough lays. You know, he 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:02.000 he know he wants back. 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:03.720 He could have picked the ball a couple of times, 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:06.280 but man, I know he's gonna get those back. 0:16:06.880 --> 0:16:09.840 The other starting outside corner on the opposite side of 0:16:09.880 --> 0:16:13.280 you now is rookie Josh fig Newton. What advice do 0:16:13.320 --> 0:16:16.080 you have for Josh as he gets this opportunity at 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:17.080 this stage of his career. 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:20.640 Had opportunity is everything, and it's all about what you 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:21.120 do with it. 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:24.680 I was benched before you know, the season, as everyone knows, 0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:27.760 and uh, I didn't. I didn't use my opportunity to 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:30.720 the best of my ability, and I didn't put my 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:34.040 best for forward and it showed and I had to 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:36.680 sit and be a great teammate. And I believe you know, 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:40.160 with him seeing that, you know, uh is anybody can 0:16:40.240 --> 0:16:42.880 you know be you know, put on the bench. It 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:45.120 doesn't matter what year you are in or anything. You know, 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:46.960 you can't have the big head. Always stay the same, 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:50.000 Just stay green, you know, no matter what year you're 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:53.080 in or you know, always you know, just taking notes, 0:16:53.120 --> 0:16:55.560 you know, always even though you know the events, still 0:16:55.600 --> 0:16:56.080 say notes. 0:16:56.120 --> 0:16:57.000 You know, something like that. 0:16:58.160 --> 0:17:02.640 You've had three years now practice regularly against Jamar Chase. 0:17:03.200 --> 0:17:05.800 He leads the NFL and catches yards and touchdowns. How 0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:07.800 would you describe the season he's having. 0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:09.880 That's a historical season for him. 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:13.240 Man, I'm glad I can see it up close and 0:17:13.280 --> 0:17:16.560 personal every weekend. We talked about that in the dB 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:19.439 room and uh, you know just how he uh he 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:22.240 kind of breaks down, you know DB's throughout the whole 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:23.879 game and you can see their confidence, you know, just 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:26.840 try to It's kind of wears a way throughout the 0:17:26.880 --> 0:17:29.640 first quarter and then second then you see halftime after 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:31.760 that is like they don't even want to play anymore. 0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:35.240 And uh, he goes and breaks the fifth yard, you know, touchdown. 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:37.119 But you know, just seeing things like that, you know, 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:40.560 I'm glad I get to be right there because it's 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:41.560 something great to see. 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:44.000 Do you ever feel sorry for a dB on another 0:17:44.040 --> 0:17:44.840 team that has to cover? 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:46.120 Yeah, most definitely. 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:47.560 Yeah. 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:51.600 Yeah, I watched him and Tea all the time when 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:54.520 there on the field. I don't really, yeah, I don't. Yeah, 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:56.520 I watched most of the guys, you know, the receivers. 0:17:56.560 --> 0:17:58.600 I want to see the matchups and everything. See how 0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:01.920 they are they're playing against him. Uh, you know they're 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:03.639 gonna put hands on him or if they did it, 0:18:03.760 --> 0:18:06.000 you know, how did he catch his ball? But uh, 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:09.960 most definitely, Uh see DB's you know, start the wave 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:12.080 it off, you know, I throw out through the white flat. 0:18:13.359 --> 0:18:16.040 He faced the Browns this week. They've got a great corner, 0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:18.040 Denzel Ward. What do you think of Denzel? 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:20.840 He's a great corner, like you just said, Man, he's 0:18:21.000 --> 0:18:24.960 proven that since he's been in this league. Uh, and 0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:27.320 that's really what I can say about him. You know, 0:18:27.400 --> 0:18:30.480 his instincts is great. He's he's played against us will 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:33.359 you know throughout the years as I've been here, and 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:37.919 it's uphill you know, Uh, I think jamr Anti, Yeah, 0:18:37.960 --> 0:18:38.680 both of those. 0:18:38.520 --> 0:18:41.040 Guys, you know, uh, and critical moments in the games. 0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:41.240 You know. 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:43.320 So it's gonna be gonna be great matchups. You know, 0:18:43.880 --> 0:18:45.359