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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Greece. Can you imagine straight probation

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Speaker 1: three separate rapes of teen girls, separated in time and space.

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Speaker 1: Straight probation, and then this guy actually violates the terms

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Speaker 1: accused of raping three teen girls. He was sentenced to

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Speaker 1: But of course, just one month later he is arrested

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Speaker 1: for public disorderly conduct. And that's right. Bowen Turner, South Carolina,

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Speaker 1: man sent us to five years probation after being accused

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Speaker 1: see grace this described stories. Thank you for being with

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Speaker 1: us here at Fox Nation and series XM one eleven.

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Speaker 1: wc SE Live five Court records. So, nineteen year old

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Speaker 1: Bowen Turner was arrested and charged with disorderly conduct this morning,

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Speaker 1: according to a report from the Orangeburg County Sheriff's Office,

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Speaker 1: on his third rape accusation. I find his victims extremely credible.

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Speaker 1: The father of Dallas Doller says in twenty eighteen, his

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Speaker 1: sexual conduct in Bamberg County in January of twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 1: Orangsboro County judge ruled today after a Turner violated his

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Speaker 1: me with Live five there in Charleston. Was it? Did

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Speaker 1: that's a fairly condom common name and it could be coincidental.

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Speaker 1: But in light of all the circumstances, I don't think

430
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: that's a coincidence, but we may contact. I did not

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00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: take a call. We made contact with Sarah Ford, our

432
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Speaker 1: turney in and she asked us to block the numbers

433
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: and um, you know, make sure that we didn't didn't

434
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 1: have any contact. But yes, ma'am, that was that was

435
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: our family that was made some contact by a gentleman name.

436
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 1: Our individuals that named themselves at Adam, and then two

437
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: attempts by a Jennifer Turner name that showed up on

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Speaker 1: my caller ID. Yes, ma'am, I'm going to get to

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00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: the blasphemy of what you just said and reported. But first,

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00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: Sarah Ford Legal thought I would be very curious to

441
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 1: find out and this is in the case of Dallas Staller,

442
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 1: which apparently some people think it's unprosecutable because she has

443
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: passed away. That's bs right there. Okay. You can prove

444
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 1: a case without the victim of the stand and one

445
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: way you can do it, it's through statements of the defendant, Okay,

446
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: statements like telling people such as his parents, I'm sorry

447
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 1: for what I did to Dallas. Okay, because you're just

448
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: hearing Carl Staller's stating the first Adam not my real name,

449
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: that called Dallas's mother said he's sorry, He's sorry for

450
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 1: what he did to Dallas. I think that phone call

451
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: needs to be traced to find out who Adam is

452
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 1: and how does Adam know the bow and Turner's sorry

453
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: for what he did a rape Dallas Stallar. That is

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Speaker 1: an admission and there is no parent child privilege like

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00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: attorney client or priest parishioner privilege. There's no such thing

456
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: like a husband or wife privilege that doesn't exist between mother, father,

457
00:30:55,320 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: and child. So if he exhibited, uh, which I doubt

458
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: pretty seriously, but could this be one of his relatives

459
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: that he has spoken to saying he's sorry for what

460
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: he did to Dallas? Now quit talking about him? What

461
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: about that? It's really wild, you know, I think that,

462
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: you know, just having quite frankly, the nerve to reach

463
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: out to the Scholar family who has They've been through

464
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: so much, they lost their daughter six months ago, and

465
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: to make that call is just astounding to me. Time

466
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: stories with Nancy Grace. This has been a long time coming.

467
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: Convicted rapists Bow and Turner, who gets straight probation, It's

468
00:31:54,080 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: finally headed to jail, three separate rapes of teen girls,

469
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: three separate rapes of teen girls, and then this guy

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00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: actually violates the terms of his probation. Just one month later,

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00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: he is arrested for public disorderly conduct. And that's right,

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00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: Bow and Turner has his probation revoked. What a disturbing story.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine what these families, what these young girls

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Speaker 1: have lived through. Mister Staller, Yes, ma'am, would you please

475
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: tell the story about Dallas, because me going on and

476
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: on and on about Bow and Turner being drunken disorderly,

477
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: nobody cares. They have to know why it's so significant. Yes, ma'am,

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Speaker 1: I'll be happy to speak about it. My daughter, or

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00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: Dallas Stellar went to a party in the Bamber County,

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Speaker 1: which is the next county over South Orangeburg County, Canada,

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00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: party that night. And um, she was at the party

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Speaker 1: and at some point during the night she went outside

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Speaker 1: and went to from what I remember and what I

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00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: was told, and she went outside to attempt to use

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Speaker 1: the bathroom in a wooded area, and she was and

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Speaker 1: I would say this this way, later identified her attacker,

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00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: her rapist, as the one Turner And she was followed

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00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: into the wood line with by this gentleman and he

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00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: this young man. I'm sorry, so the gentleman, he followed

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00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: by this young man and uh and was raped in

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00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: the woods by him, and of course brought eventually got

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Speaker 1: home to our house where we found out she had

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Speaker 1: been assaulted and she had meant numerous wounds her body,

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00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: bruises and u S triangulation marks on her neck. Um,

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00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: just a plethora of different injuries pretty much over our

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Speaker 1: whole body. She was transported to our local hospital, regional

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00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: medical center, and she was at what point we were

498
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: told she by her and what she told medical personnel

499
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: that she had been raped by um what turned out

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00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: to be this subject, mister Boeing Turner at that party,

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00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: and it became a that started a chain of events

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Speaker 1: that were obviously, as most people know now was life

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00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: changing for her and us as a family. And ultimately

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00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 1: three and a half years later, UM ended up in

505
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 1: her deciding to it was morning she can handle and

506
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 1: took her life because she was bullied and she was

507
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: made out to be a liar, and so many of

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00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: these so called important people made that made that so

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00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: and they're children that type of thing. So that's where

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00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: we are today, ma'am. That's why this one's reoffending on

511
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 1: another chart on what we call him misdemeanor here in

512
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: South Carolina on this public disorderly conduct is significant. But

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Speaker 1: I will say this not surprising to me because he

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00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: doesn't have any regard for the law period and all

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00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: the way and honestly, all the law taught him that

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00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 1: day and that here for Cooe's case was that hey man,

517
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: you you you know the right people, you got the money,

518
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: you can get out of anything. And um, and he

519
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,879
Speaker 1: basically did that. And so why does he have any

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00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 1: Why in the world would he have any regard for

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00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: the law. I mean, I don't care about that. You know,

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00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: underage drinking, that doesn't matter. Um, that's a law. I

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00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: want a law in aply of me, um raping girls.

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00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: That's why did I matter of law and apply me?

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00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: And guess what. Guess who's taught us. Guessn't taught him that.

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00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: Our court system, our court system taught him that. And uh.

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00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: And so there's much to blame for all this as anybody.

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00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: And UH, thankfully, thankfully we have one judge that was

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00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: willing to hear it out and say, listen, you're you're

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00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: you're not. I'm gonna get back out on this. What

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Speaker 1: turned out to the probation violation point of it, because

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00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: you are you're clearly shown that you have no regard

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00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: for conditions of bond needs nothing to you. Um. And hey,

534
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: you've been on probation them but just a month and

535
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: you've already violated it. But I sat in on that

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00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: bond hearing and I heard him say, he said, well,

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00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: I don't understand I've made all my court appearances. Well,

538
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: big deal. You may tell any court offences appearances. But

539
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: you did what the hell you wanted to do in

540
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: the eneral, you know, so that make any difference to you.

541
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 1: But again, like I said, that solicited David Miller and Braddo,

542
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: all the combination of all that good Markley, Dennis, everybody.

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00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,919
Speaker 1: They taught him. They taught him well, then they taught

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00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: him that say you can do anything you want to do,

545
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 1: and it's okay, it's okay. That's the way I see it.

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00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 1: I know that Chloe's case went forward and Bow and

547
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: Turner got straight probation. I know that Dallas's case was

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00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 1: dropped because Dallas passed away. I know that there is

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00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: a juvenile victim case out there. What has become of

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00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: the juvenile case? Do you know, Sarah Ford? Yes, Actually,

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Speaker 1: when I got involved with these cases, I asked the

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Speaker 1: SORCER's office till we opened her case as South Carolina

553
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 1: Law Enforcement Division, to reopen it. Sled did, but we

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00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,760
Speaker 1: honestly have not ever gotten a an answer. That's actually

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00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,280
Speaker 1: a good thing. That's a good thing, Sarah Ford, because

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00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: that means there's still a rape case pending against Bowen

557
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: Turner if in fact they haven't resolved it behind the

558
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 1: victims back, well, it's my understanding that you know, they

559
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Speaker 1: did not want to have their conversations with them. You know,

560
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: there were two pending cases. This would have been a

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00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 1: third case that was opened closed. We asked it to

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Speaker 1: be reopened, and you know, I was told, you know,

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Speaker 1: we don't want to make it look like we're going

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Speaker 1: after this kid, which was obviously very problematic, just that mentality.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I think that while I would love

566
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Speaker 1: to see Dallas's case reopened, I would love to see

567
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 1: this first case get the appropriate attention that it deserves.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that that's going to happen, but I'm hopeful.

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Speaker 1: I really am. Take a listen to our crested wc

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Speaker 1: SC Live five. The South Carolina Attorney General's Office filed

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Speaker 1: emotion back in May to dismiss an appeal made on

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Speaker 1: behalf of one of Bowen Turner's alleged victims, but the

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Speaker 1: State Core of Appeals just denied the AG's motion, which

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Speaker 1: means that appeal can move forward. The victim's attorney, Sarah Ford,

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00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: filed that appeal. She says a judge did not hear

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Speaker 1: three motions from one of the victims before Turner's plea hearing,

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Speaker 1: including one which would have allowed the victim to have

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00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:21,919
Speaker 1: her statement meaningfully considered and heard before Turner's guilty plea.

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Speaker 1: Ford argued, denying this motion violated the victim's constitutional rights.

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Speaker 1: After Ford's appeal, the Attorney General's Office moved to dismiss it,

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Speaker 1: saying victims don't have a right to appeal. The AG's

582
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: office argued Turner has not tried to appeal, so the

583
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Speaker 1: plea and the sentence are final. The AG wrote that

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Speaker 1: the court should dismiss the appeal because there is no

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Speaker 1: basis to entertain it. But yesterday the State Court of

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Speaker 1: Appeals denied the AG's motion, saying nothing is preventing both

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Speaker 1: sides from arguing their points. Ford says she's grateful the

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00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: state's motion was denied, so we will proceed with our appeal.

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Speaker 1: So we're very pleased about that. We think that's her

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Speaker 1: They sed up in the right direction and bringing victims

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Speaker 1: rights to the forefront of our criminal justice system. Victims

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Speaker 1: are not an afterthought. They are central to this process.

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Speaker 1: And if they're not center to this process, then we're

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Speaker 1: doing it wrong. In response to the Court of Appeals order,

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Speaker 1: the AG's office says, quote, while we can't comment on

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Speaker 1: the merits of this case because it's still pending, what

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00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: this order by the court boils down to is the

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Speaker 1: court is asking both sides to fully brief the issues.

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Speaker 1: That's all end. Quote. Can victor rapists bow? And Gray

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Speaker 1: Turners finally headed to jail, ordering him to register as

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Speaker 1: a sex offender. Finally some degree of justice, but nothing

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Speaker 1: will ever bring Dallas back. Nancy Grace Crime Story signing

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Speaker 1: off good by one