WEBVTT - HR1: Live from Training Camp 2026 Day 15

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<v Speaker 2>Good afternoon, Steeler Nation, and for the final time here

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty six, Welcome to the campus of Saint

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<v Speaker 2>Vincent College. In a wet and soggy but now the

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<v Speaker 2>sunshine coming out of the es I saw of a

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<v Speaker 2>sudden letro Pennsylvania. Matt and I both look like dogs

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<v Speaker 2>that just jumped into the swimming pool as we got

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<v Speaker 2>crushed walking from the cafeteria to the show here. But

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<v Speaker 2>now the skies are blue and the sun is shining,

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe, Matt, we should have just waited a few

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<v Speaker 2>minutes longer. But we are with you. Here for the

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<v Speaker 2>next three hours. Matt. It is our final show from campus.

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<v Speaker 2>Here is part of our training camp coverage.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it's been awesome and quick funny story. Like

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<v Speaker 3>the hotel we say that is honestly like a three

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<v Speaker 3>minute ride. You can basically see it from here. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>you could walk there if you wanted to. So I

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<v Speaker 3>get in my car to come over. Practice was canceled.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess we probably should have lead with that. The

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<v Speaker 3>final practice was did never happen. So I didn't leave

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<v Speaker 3>my room until I was gonna meet you in the

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<v Speaker 3>cafeteria at like two o'clock and we're going on the

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<v Speaker 3>air three. So I got all my bags and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>walking to the car and I'm like, all right, here

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<v Speaker 3>we go, last day checked out. Get in the car,

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<v Speaker 3>turn it on, and the sky just opens up so much.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm driving over. I'm like, oh man, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>have an umbrella. It's gonna be a long walk to

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<v Speaker 3>the cafeteria. Part cars close to the cafeteria as I

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<v Speaker 3>possibly can hit, put it in park, and it just stopped.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, this is my day.

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<v Speaker 2>I got to get some lottery right tapped.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, like, this is my day. This is unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 3>It rained for exactly three minutes my trip, Matt. When

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<v Speaker 3>we get when we and then we came out of

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<v Speaker 3>there and we got our hair.

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<v Speaker 2>We looked like we just jumped out of the swimming pool.

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<v Speaker 2>You need to stop at the casino on Route thirty

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<v Speaker 2>there on our way out there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but they brought me back to reality with the

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<v Speaker 3>walk over here lots a couple of.

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<v Speaker 2>Times that that is funny, and it is. Uh, it's

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<v Speaker 2>been a weird it's been.

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<v Speaker 3>A weird week.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been a weird camp. It's been a weird day

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of the weather. Like we said, sun is shining.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually the skies are.

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<v Speaker 3>Blue right now. Canceled practice and man, it.

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<v Speaker 2>Rained a lot yesterday, rained, overnight, rained this morning because

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<v Speaker 2>of that practice closed, uh and canceled. Actually is it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't even like a close to the public type thing.

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<v Speaker 3>It was right right right.

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<v Speaker 2>Practice was canceled for the day people. And so Matt,

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<v Speaker 2>it's usually a quiet campus by the time you and

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<v Speaker 2>I get to our last show here as we are

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<v Speaker 2>kind of the caboose of this whole thing. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>even quieter today than it typically is with no fans.

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<v Speaker 2>I know a lot of the players and coaches are

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<v Speaker 2>already out. Licteria closed early. Poor Matt didn't get a

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<v Speaker 2>full schmugesborg a lunch like myself and Ed Troop did.

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<v Speaker 3>I just found anything I could scavenge while they were

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<v Speaker 3>cleaning up. Basically had ice cream for lunch.

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<v Speaker 2>Ice cream and a cheeseburger. Man, if that ain't that's

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<v Speaker 2>like every seventeen year old's dream bunch right there, just

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<v Speaker 2>living living the dream out here baby as Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>a different day today, a little anti climactic and kind

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<v Speaker 2>of the way that the camp rounded out, But hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you can control what you can control, and the weather

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<v Speaker 2>is certainly not something that you can control. You just

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<v Speaker 2>got to roll with the punches with that, Matt. We've

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<v Speaker 2>got a lot of ground to cover today as we've

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<v Speaker 2>got a bonus hour, We've got a three hour show,

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<v Speaker 2>our last three hour show for a little while, and

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<v Speaker 2>and of course we're gonna get to your tweets. We

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<v Speaker 2>do have a lot of fun stuff planned for you,

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<v Speaker 2>including an idea that Matt kind of came up with

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<v Speaker 2>last night slash this morning. Yeah, and I think is

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<v Speaker 2>a really fun one for us to start this first

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<v Speaker 2>hour of the program today, Matt, and that is quite

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<v Speaker 2>simply fifty three man initial roster for the Steelers.

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<v Speaker 3>But we haven't done it yet. This isn't our final answer.

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<v Speaker 3>We got time, we'll do.

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<v Speaker 2>It.

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<v Speaker 3>Seemed like a monumental day to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>But you said, let's try and piece together the Steelers

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<v Speaker 2>fifty three man roster with.

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<v Speaker 3>Four quartermack with four quarterbacks. So now that's a much

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<v Speaker 3>bigger conversation, and I don't want to have it right now.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just gonna say and chat with Mike Pursudo last night.

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<v Speaker 3>I've chatted with a lot of folks that do what

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<v Speaker 3>we do. Jerry du Lack's been pushing for this. It's

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<v Speaker 3>a real possibility since day one of training camp. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think any of the quarterbacks have shown poorly. So

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<v Speaker 3>instead of fighting should we keep four or not, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>just saying we're keeping four and what does it look like?

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<v Speaker 3>Because we got a tweet about it saying what position

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<v Speaker 3>would get short cut? And I don't want to do

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<v Speaker 3>a two minute answer on that. In the last segment

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<v Speaker 3>during Twitter time, I'm like, let's figure it out where

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<v Speaker 3>what what can we do to make that work? Now?

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<v Speaker 3>One caveat that I ninety percent understand you can finagel

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<v Speaker 3>things in terms of you put someone on your practice

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<v Speaker 3>like you can put Travis Homer on your practice squad

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<v Speaker 3>and you could call them up twice. I think it is.

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<v Speaker 3>And then you got to make a decision. So you

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<v Speaker 3>can do things like that, the kind of buy time,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Bruner or you know, but they got to,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, make sure they get up on the practice

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<v Speaker 3>squad first of all. But you can finagel things your

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<v Speaker 3>roster a little more than the old days, like these

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<v Speaker 3>are the fifty three and these are all I have

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<v Speaker 3>to deal with. But I just thought it be fun,

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<v Speaker 3>like is it feasible would the roster be a disaster.

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<v Speaker 2>Or just where you're cutting from? What position group?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Yeah, can weather it? You know? Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Now, so I think a couple of things that we

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<v Speaker 2>can establish here right off the jump, and if it's

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<v Speaker 2>okay with you, we'll kind of with the parameter of

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<v Speaker 2>this being you're keeping four quarterbacks on the roster, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I figure we go ahead and start on the offensive

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<v Speaker 2>side of the ball.

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<v Speaker 3>Then yes, And really we're gonna come up with forty

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<v Speaker 3>six names because there's three specialists are making the team.

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<v Speaker 2>That's funny you say that literally if you look at

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<v Speaker 2>my piece of paper here, because.

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<v Speaker 3>I look over so.

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<v Speaker 2>I have four quarterbacks. I have three teams. Okay, that

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<v Speaker 2>means that means Chris Boswell, Cam Johnson and Christian Kots

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<v Speaker 2>even talk about don't even talk about Hi.

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<v Speaker 3>You're gonna have.

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<v Speaker 2>Thirty seconds of our life. You can have wasted talking

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<v Speaker 2>about three teamers. You're gonna have four quarterbacks. That puts

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<v Speaker 2>us a seven already, Matt. Let's talk running backs. How

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<v Speaker 2>many are we gonna keep? And you came up with this.

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<v Speaker 3>Just to make it fun. Let's jot down every name

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<v Speaker 3>that has a chance, and then we'll have Then we'll

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<v Speaker 3>come back and maybe in the second segment and fight

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<v Speaker 3>about who doesn't make it. You know what I mean? Like,

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<v Speaker 3>are there? Okay, let's start with thrownning backs.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's start runing.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Warren and Dowell absolutely boom boom to me, non

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<v Speaker 3>locks are everybody else? Yes? But to me, Homer would

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<v Speaker 3>be the third.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, and then Lou Nichols fourth.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I think Caleb has no chance.

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<v Speaker 2>I probably put Hide and Rek at five and Caleb

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<v Speaker 2>at six.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I always still don't think of Hide and

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<v Speaker 3>Rake as a running back.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's where they've got him.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think that has to probably be three.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's three.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, I think that's the way to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>And again, we could kind of argue about how do

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<v Speaker 2>they consider Homer, But I think as of now, I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's three, and I.

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<v Speaker 3>Think it would be protector.

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<v Speaker 1>He is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's making the team.

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<v Speaker 3>He's making the team. You need him on game day.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean again, maybe you could.

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<v Speaker 2>Some fun angling like you talked about by a.

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<v Speaker 3>Couple of weeks and while you're trying to dangle Caleb

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<v Speaker 3>Johnson or something like that, or if Warren has a

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<v Speaker 3>bad knee, maybe you try that Homer trick so that

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<v Speaker 3>Nichols can be active for two weeks until he's ready

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<v Speaker 3>here you know, like that. Those are why the rules exist.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think three true running backs and a full back.

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<v Speaker 3>You aback written down.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you're right, I was forgetting something.

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<v Speaker 3>You're right. Last, they have a fullback and they are

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<v Speaker 3>going to keep one, Yes they are. So I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's also safe to say tight ends are next on

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<v Speaker 3>your list. That enter next three. Three. Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 3>Tanyan's that third.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he is too, and I really don't know

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<v Speaker 2>who else is truly in the equation.

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<v Speaker 3>I've heard some buzz about Bell.

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, Jaem Bell would be probably the

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<v Speaker 2>fourth one dimension, but it's it feels like Tanyan, especially

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<v Speaker 2>by that preseason game of course, is clearly that third guy,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, one of our camp darlings of past JJ

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<v Speaker 2>Gallbreath no longer here. Yeah, I mean maybe again, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>Bell can still have something to say in this process.

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<v Speaker 2>But they're going to keep three.

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<v Speaker 3>They're going to keep three, and we don't even have

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<v Speaker 3>to know the names one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, we know two? Three? Yeah, Tanyan certainly, I think.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like home where he's a ninety percent.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say that's I would say that that's about

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<v Speaker 2>right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Another note, but it doesn't change our numbers. Maybe the

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<v Speaker 3>Browns or some bad team cuts an older running back

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<v Speaker 3>or tight end just to keep a young guy, and

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<v Speaker 3>you say I'll take him over Tanya and her Homer. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>but your numbers are still the same.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that then that's that's the important kicker there. Wide

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<v Speaker 2>receivers interesting, Matt.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, we have a set number there that we have

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<v Speaker 3>to absolutely stand by.

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<v Speaker 2>DK Metcalf Michael Pittman junior Bernard Roman Wilson I still

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<v Speaker 2>think is pretty harm and then we put Chronic in Wigian.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's six. I wish this sounds wrong because it's

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<v Speaker 3>I have no problem with Wigen, but he's gonna make

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<v Speaker 3>the team. He's a FOURTHROND pick and he's your top returner.

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<v Speaker 3>But I wish you could combine him and Roman Wilson,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean, Like I wish Roman Wilson

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<v Speaker 3>was already a great returner. So you could only keep

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<v Speaker 3>five because Weegen and Scronic have to be active on

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<v Speaker 3>game day, which means Roman won't be mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>But unless they have six active on game.

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<v Speaker 3>Day, I guess that's possible, possible, But I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think they're gonna keep sick. I think they're gonna keep

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<v Speaker 2>six regardless. You are right, though, man yourself anywhere. Remember

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<v Speaker 2>we have an extra quarterback, right, That's where eventually somewhere

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna have to have a rubber meets right.

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<v Speaker 3>We'red fifty four here, so but we.

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<v Speaker 2>Can always we can always walk this back too and

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<v Speaker 2>just have to. Yeah, I think we will.

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<v Speaker 3>Some of the sounds easy until you do the math

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<v Speaker 3>and you come up with fifty five or fifty four.

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<v Speaker 2>So what we have left for the offense here is

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<v Speaker 2>offensive line Matt Okay, Yes, the starting five as currently constituted.

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<v Speaker 3>Called Cook the five I am. Yes, I'm gonna.

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<v Speaker 2>Say Futanu, McCormick, Frasier, Anderson Cook. Those are five, MAXI

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<v Speaker 2>Hana is six.

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<v Speaker 3>Hopefully that's not like an ir situation or that too

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<v Speaker 3>would right.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, because because Mike McCarthy said not he doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>see Max playing this week against the Jets. He did

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<v Speaker 2>say that earlier today. We'll get to that more.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm sure we'll talk on I don't love.

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<v Speaker 2>It starting five, Max six, Dunker. I mean we could

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<v Speaker 2>say Hoffman seven, Dunker eight, Broderick, Broderick nine.

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<v Speaker 3>I think McCollum's a no. I think every other O

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<v Speaker 3>lineman's a no. So you have four tackles, yes, five

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<v Speaker 3>interior guys, Yes, two rookies.

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<v Speaker 2>Could you see a scenario where they only keep eight

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<v Speaker 2>and no Broderick only if.

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<v Speaker 3>He could trade him. That's kind of what I was

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<v Speaker 3>thinking with Roman.

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<v Speaker 2>I think nine's the right number to put for now

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<v Speaker 2>for offensive lineman.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, super quick, Since we disfinished offense of the names

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<v Speaker 3>We basically didn't chisel in, but we wrote in pen

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<v Speaker 3>literally after you said, know the pen dudes you could

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<v Speaker 3>trade because I don't want to cut any of these

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<v Speaker 3>dudes we talked about. But if you give me a pick, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I need a roster spot.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't think there's any at wide receiver.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Rudolph Broderick are your only tradeable assets. No

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<v Speaker 3>one's gonna give you anything for Roman right now.

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<v Speaker 2>No one's gonna give anything for Roman. And you would

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<v Speaker 2>have other tradable assets, but they're not gonna be guys

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<v Speaker 2>that you would want to like, you know, at this

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<v Speaker 2>point trading Hoffman. At this point, you just signed him

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<v Speaker 2>and drafted those guys, drafted and signed those two.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean and Jones and Rudolph for both three agents.

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<v Speaker 3>After the year, conceivably somebody might offer you a pick

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<v Speaker 3>that you would consider for one of those guys. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think Romans in that mix because he's two years

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<v Speaker 3>removed out of college. I'd have to light up the preseason.

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<v Speaker 2>Completely agree, completely agree.

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<v Speaker 3>But I like Roman more and more, but he's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of messing us up because if he's not active on

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<v Speaker 3>game day. Between them and Bernard, and he's not a

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<v Speaker 3>he's not a return guy, and he's not a special teamer.

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<v Speaker 3>He's been better, but like of all the dudes we've

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<v Speaker 3>penciled in here, I hate to say it, but he's

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<v Speaker 3>the one that's maybe the most useless, just in term

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<v Speaker 3>of constructing a game day.

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<v Speaker 2>Even you could, you could, you could see a scenario

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<v Speaker 2>where Broderick would become more needed, but I would think

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<v Speaker 2>it would be one.

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<v Speaker 3>Roderick, you're starting right tackle. Hey, I mean, I guess

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<v Speaker 3>you're right.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess that's not I guess that's not inconceivable at

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<v Speaker 2>this point.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, as it stands here in the last day

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<v Speaker 3>of camp, he's gonna be taking snaps with the ones.

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<v Speaker 3>I bet the next time they get together, or maybe

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<v Speaker 3>even be this. I mean, I don't think he's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>start in the game, but I bet he'll be quick

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<v Speaker 3>off the bench again.

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<v Speaker 2>And we can see a lot of him on the

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<v Speaker 2>right side potentially in this preseason game Friday night against

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<v Speaker 2>that you think you can.

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<v Speaker 3>Afford to move on from him, I mean, you have

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<v Speaker 3>to blow me away.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's twenty six offensive rostered players.

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<v Speaker 3>Matt including specially not including specially.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're at twenty we're at twenty nine. Yeah, you're

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<v Speaker 2>twenty nine here already. Yes, and we have not even

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<v Speaker 2>discussed the defense. So let's take a break. Let's table

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<v Speaker 2>this for now. We're gonna flip the other side of

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<v Speaker 2>the football defense. And again, eventually, at some point we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have to get lighter in a position group maybe somewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe we'll revisit something with the wide receivers or the

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<v Speaker 2>offensive line. But you have to stay with us to

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<v Speaker 2>find out if.

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<v Speaker 3>He cutschronic man, I think he's pretty valuable.

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<v Speaker 2>You'd have to really have some other guys emerge as

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<v Speaker 2>special teams deep right.

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<v Speaker 3>And there to We'll talk about those guys next segment.

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<v Speaker 2>You know where to get at us if you want

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<v Speaker 2>to get involved. Wes Yuler, Matt Williamson. I'm liking this

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<v Speaker 2>idea that Matt came up with to start the show today.

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<v Speaker 3>Through it. It's harder than you think.

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<v Speaker 2>It back on campus. For our final Saint Vincent College

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<v Speaker 2>edition of The Drive, Matt I was laughing this morning

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<v Speaker 2>when Mike McCarthy spoke to close down Camp. We'll bring

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<v Speaker 2>you some of that audio at some point in the

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<v Speaker 2>show to yeah as well, he did the inser thing

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<v Speaker 2>that you and I were talking about a couple days ago.

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<v Speaker 3>He throws messes on the end.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, I just want to say everyone here at

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<v Speaker 2>Saint Vincent's has been a plus.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah time.

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<v Speaker 2>You know it's hilarious. Is then I went and I

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<v Speaker 2>was on NFL dot com and I was reading like

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<v Speaker 2>their training Camp round up and they quoted Mike McCarthy

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<v Speaker 2>in there, and then their quote they actually typed out

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<v Speaker 2>Saint Vincent's in the quote. I'm like, oh, yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what you gotta do because that's what he said.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'll even text like going back to Saint Viz

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<v Speaker 3>to my parents and there's no or my family or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I get what you're saying, Saint these Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 2>it is Saint Vincent College here, correct.

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<v Speaker 3>I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just laughing at that. It was like Mike

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<v Speaker 2>McCarthy with the little the little drive inside joke of

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<v Speaker 2>putting an S on the end of everything that we

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<v Speaker 2>that we do in western Pennsylvania. And like I told you,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's a Pennsylvania thing. I think it is

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<v Speaker 2>in general because I've got relatives in the central part

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<v Speaker 2>of the state. My wife is from the eastern part

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<v Speaker 2>of the state, and they all they all do it

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<v Speaker 2>as well too. Matt. We are in the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>an exercise here where we are trying to predict the

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<v Speaker 2>Steelers fifty three man roster under the premise of the

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<v Speaker 2>team keeping four quarterbacks and where you might have to

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<v Speaker 2>pinch from.

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<v Speaker 3>Somewhere else get crowded quick.

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<v Speaker 2>We did the offense to start the show, twenty six

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<v Speaker 2>guys on offense that we had in our initial number,

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<v Speaker 2>again subject to change here before.

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<v Speaker 3>We close this exercise down have to make a cut.

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<v Speaker 2>And then of course you assume three special teamers kicker, punter,

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<v Speaker 2>and long snapper as always. That puts us at twenty

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<v Speaker 2>nine already, which would give us twenty four spots for.

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<v Speaker 3>The for the defense entire defense.

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<v Speaker 2>Which I guess, hey, when you look at the split offense,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty six defense twenty four wouldn't be that far off.

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<v Speaker 2>But let's see if.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how the little leaning a little.

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<v Speaker 2>See how that actually plays out here, Matt. Can we

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<v Speaker 2>start on the defensive line to again, and this does

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<v Speaker 2>not include ed Rusher, So this doesn't include DJ and

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<v Speaker 2>high Smith and you know herbig and on. We're just

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<v Speaker 2>the big people with their with their hands into trenches.

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<v Speaker 3>The minimum is six, and they have kept six at

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<v Speaker 3>times over the years as a true three to four defense,

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<v Speaker 3>and back then they didn't play as much nickel with

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<v Speaker 3>only two of these guys on the field either, So

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<v Speaker 3>six was not a crazy number, you know, back in

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<v Speaker 3>the day at Lobau times. I think seven is almost

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<v Speaker 3>mandatory though, considering the players available, and frankly, there's a

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<v Speaker 3>about eight players I don't want to get rid of. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's no way you can take keep eight. But

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<v Speaker 3>there's eight names I would hate to see Goup.

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<v Speaker 2>Cam Hayward, Derek Harmon, Keanu Benton y a Black d Day.

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<v Speaker 2>That's five locks. I think Rubio is as well too.

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<v Speaker 2>I know a sixth round pick isn't guaranteed to make

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<v Speaker 2>the roster like a third or fourth round pick, but

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<v Speaker 2>everything that we've heard and seen and he is a

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<v Speaker 2>draft pick rookie, I think he's six. And then it

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<v Speaker 2>comes down to do you keep a seventh? That is

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<v Speaker 2>Autumn Wayo, that is Dean Lowry, that is someone along

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<v Speaker 2>those lines.

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<v Speaker 3>Ottawayo would be my choice.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, I actually I don't think I know that

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<v Speaker 2>he would be. If we're keeping seven, he would be

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<v Speaker 2>the seventh. He'd be the seventh.

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<v Speaker 3>So let's put seven down.

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<v Speaker 2>And maybe this is where we come back and too heavy.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope not.

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<v Speaker 2>But let's let's put seven down for now. And again

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<v Speaker 2>though we I think at some point we're gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>to revisit one of these position groups and make a

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<v Speaker 2>tough decision. That's the whole point of this exercise.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, right, right, right, edge rushers.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this one's pretty simple, right, TJ. Hi Smith

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<v Speaker 2>herbig and then one other.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it's probably the number is going to be four.

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<v Speaker 2>It's probably still Jack Sawyer's probably job. But I also

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<v Speaker 2>think Jamin Davis, if he continues to do what he

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<v Speaker 2>does over two more games, could certainly make it a conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's going to be four.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, It's gonna be four. You can't keep both. They

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<v Speaker 3>can battle it out for that last spot, but you

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<v Speaker 3>can't keep us. Has to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Premise of how we're doing this, sexers right exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, if you had three quarterbacks Davis is intriguing enough,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll keep them, maybe, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>But right now we're gonna go with four for edge.

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<v Speaker 2>So seven defensive linemen, four edge rushers, eleven guys there

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<v Speaker 2>total at the line of scrimmage.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's go to corner.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>I know that's not the order. My brand doesn't work

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<v Speaker 3>that way either, but I kind of have a hunch

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<v Speaker 3>that if we get light. It has to almost come

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<v Speaker 3>it off the ball linebacker or safety.

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<v Speaker 2>Even more so than going down to six at defensive line.

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<v Speaker 3>Possibly, I'm talking about remaining things. Okay, okay, I think

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<v Speaker 3>corner is an easy one, but it's a big number.

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<v Speaker 2>Joey Porter, Junior, Kwon Brisker. Are we counting? Let's count

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<v Speaker 2>Ramseys are sorry, not sorry, not Brisker. He's a safety.

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<v Speaker 2>I was thinking, Ramsey, Yeah, yeah, do we want to

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<v Speaker 2>count him as a corner?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes? I think he's a nickel one. We'll call those guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Going Ramsey, Porter, Dean Sante Samuel makes four, Brandon Eckles

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<v Speaker 2>makes five.

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<v Speaker 3>Makes it absolutely? So that's six six. I think that

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<v Speaker 3>now again, could we get to the point where Eccles

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<v Speaker 3>is still banged up enough to be on short term

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<v Speaker 3>injured reserve? Absolutely, you could handle a month without Eccles.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, he's a good player, but he may not

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<v Speaker 3>even be active on game dayut of these group, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I think ever it would be the guy that ought

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<v Speaker 3>to be. But as it stands now, I mean this

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<v Speaker 3>could be true with d line too. You know, uh

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<v Speaker 3>Ottawayo or one of those dudes could get a hangnail

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<v Speaker 3>or have a legit injury, and he makes your decision

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<v Speaker 3>a little easier. But as it stands now, assuming health,

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<v Speaker 3>I think you have to keep six.

0:21:02.520 --> 0:21:05.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm with you. That to me seems like the right

0:21:05.280 --> 0:21:05.879
<v Speaker 2>number there.

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<v Speaker 3>But this hurts you a little bit too, kind of

0:21:07.960 --> 0:21:11.680
<v Speaker 3>like the Roman Wilson conversation, because of those six who

0:21:11.680 --> 0:21:15.280
<v Speaker 3>were good special teamers, Like, there's not a Pierre in

0:21:15.320 --> 0:21:19.000
<v Speaker 3>that group, right, you know, I mean Eccles is serviceable,

0:21:19.040 --> 0:21:20.280
<v Speaker 3>but I'm not sure if he's one of your top

0:21:20.280 --> 0:21:23.320
<v Speaker 3>two gunners. You're a little light on special teams, like

0:21:23.680 --> 0:21:26.280
<v Speaker 3>keeping six corners, because there's usually if you're gonna keep

0:21:26.280 --> 0:21:28.840
<v Speaker 3>six corners, one of them is pretty awesome special.

0:21:28.520 --> 0:21:31.200
<v Speaker 2>Teams, right, right, right, Like Pierre was right, you want

0:21:31.200 --> 0:21:34.000
<v Speaker 2>to go to safety next or line either linebacker. Let's

0:21:34.040 --> 0:21:36.200
<v Speaker 2>let's stick with safety since kind of the secondary here

0:21:36.760 --> 0:21:40.400
<v Speaker 2>we are obviously Deshaun Elliott and Jakwan Brisker I think

0:21:40.400 --> 0:21:45.200
<v Speaker 2>are two locks. Yeah, and then Robert Spears Jennings a lock.

0:21:45.440 --> 0:21:47.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I know he's a seventh round pick, but

0:21:47.080 --> 0:21:48.560
<v Speaker 2>he's I think had a pretty good camp.

0:21:49.000 --> 0:21:50.400
<v Speaker 3>I would say he's a ninety percenter.

0:21:50.480 --> 0:21:54.200
<v Speaker 2>He was drafted by this staff, and.

0:21:54.080 --> 0:21:56.360
<v Speaker 3>I think what's his face? They just signed.

0:21:58.720 --> 0:21:59.560
<v Speaker 2>Jack Henderson.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, no, no, But I am I not

0:22:03.480 --> 0:22:05.960
<v Speaker 3>thinking that they when they cut Savage, Yes.

0:22:05.840 --> 0:22:07.760
<v Speaker 2>When they yes, when they cut Savage, who they brought

0:22:07.760 --> 0:22:08.399
<v Speaker 2>in for him?

0:22:08.840 --> 0:22:10.600
<v Speaker 3>He basically was a starter in the game. In my

0:22:10.640 --> 0:22:11.520
<v Speaker 3>brain's not working.

0:22:11.400 --> 0:22:14.600
<v Speaker 2>Round Jenkins right right, Yes, ye Jenkins.

0:22:14.640 --> 0:22:15.880
<v Speaker 3>I think he's a ninety percenter.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so you're leaning towards four. Its safety, you could

0:22:19.920 --> 0:22:20.760
<v Speaker 2>live with three.

0:22:21.960 --> 0:22:23.680
<v Speaker 3>I mean that sounds that sounds nuts.

0:22:23.760 --> 0:22:27.399
<v Speaker 2>You could live with because of Ramsey, Ramsey's versatility.

0:22:26.880 --> 0:22:28.240
<v Speaker 3>But I don't think they want him to play a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of say I wish I knew those answers. So

0:22:30.040 --> 0:22:32.320
<v Speaker 3>I think you've put four down when we do the math.

0:22:32.960 --> 0:22:37.040
<v Speaker 2>I think that's again knowing where they would like to

0:22:37.080 --> 0:22:40.600
<v Speaker 2>deploy Ramsey. Hey, that's one of those things that we

0:22:40.680 --> 0:22:43.200
<v Speaker 2>really haven't had much conversation about now, right, we haven't

0:22:43.200 --> 0:22:44.960
<v Speaker 2>seen Ramsey in this addition of training.

0:22:44.720 --> 0:22:47.199
<v Speaker 3>Camp, and you've heard my my tinfoil hat theory is,

0:22:47.240 --> 0:22:49.040
<v Speaker 3>I don't think they want the general public to know

0:22:49.080 --> 0:22:52.040
<v Speaker 3>their Ramsey intentions. I think I think magically he's gonna

0:22:52.040 --> 0:22:56.520
<v Speaker 3>come off pop when they go to the Southside. I

0:22:56.600 --> 0:22:58.000
<v Speaker 3>just think he's a wild card. I think he's an

0:22:58.000 --> 0:23:00.000
<v Speaker 3>answer out there that their opponents don't know yet.

0:23:00.000 --> 0:23:02.880
<v Speaker 2>This happened now, Matt, if we want to do this

0:23:03.520 --> 0:23:05.840
<v Speaker 2>in where well, I even shouldn't even frame it that way.

0:23:05.840 --> 0:23:08.159
<v Speaker 2>I should just tell you right now, we have fifty

0:23:08.200 --> 0:23:08.600
<v Speaker 2>guys on.

0:23:08.560 --> 0:23:10.480
<v Speaker 3>Our roster, so we only have three spots.

0:23:10.480 --> 0:23:12.639
<v Speaker 2>So we only have three spots at inside linebacker, or

0:23:12.840 --> 0:23:14.920
<v Speaker 2>we got to cut a defensive lineman, we got to

0:23:15.000 --> 0:23:16.760
<v Speaker 2>cut a offensive lineman.

0:23:16.480 --> 0:23:18.960
<v Speaker 3>We got to cut get inside linebackers.

0:23:19.080 --> 0:23:21.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't think you can keep three inside linebackers. No, Patrick, Queen,

0:23:21.720 --> 0:23:27.000
<v Speaker 2>Peyton Wilson, Cole Holcom, Milandon Roberts.

0:23:27.080 --> 0:23:28.200
<v Speaker 3>I think Bruner's in trouble.

0:23:28.960 --> 0:23:30.680
<v Speaker 2>But again, though, then that gets back to where your

0:23:30.680 --> 0:23:32.800
<v Speaker 2>core special teams guys that same conversation with.

0:23:33.280 --> 0:23:35.879
<v Speaker 3>But so, I mean, even if they kept three quarterbacks,

0:23:35.920 --> 0:23:37.879
<v Speaker 3>I think Bruner's in trouble because that gets you to

0:23:37.920 --> 0:23:40.640
<v Speaker 3>fifty three with three quarterbacks. Like you said, we only

0:23:40.640 --> 0:23:41.639
<v Speaker 3>got room for three dudes.

0:23:41.880 --> 0:23:44.760
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and you know that, you know they at least

0:23:44.800 --> 0:23:45.800
<v Speaker 2>four linebackers.

0:23:45.840 --> 0:23:47.920
<v Speaker 3>I think they can only keep four. No matter what. Now,

0:23:48.400 --> 0:23:49.720
<v Speaker 3>the moment when we talked through.

0:23:49.600 --> 0:23:52.520
<v Speaker 2>This under the under the kind of circumstances here. Yeah,

0:23:52.560 --> 0:23:53.240
<v Speaker 2>so that may you.

0:23:53.240 --> 0:23:55.440
<v Speaker 3>Could practice squad Brunner and bring them up twice, but

0:23:56.000 --> 0:23:58.280
<v Speaker 3>that's only two out of seventeen days you get up.

0:23:58.320 --> 0:24:00.800
<v Speaker 2>So if we're going four off all mypecial.

0:24:00.280 --> 0:24:02.240
<v Speaker 3>Teamers, the special teamers are rough.

0:24:02.280 --> 0:24:03.840
<v Speaker 2>Like, then you're definitely keeping Scratch.

0:24:04.000 --> 0:24:06.119
<v Speaker 3>I was saying that too, like Scronic's pretty safe.

0:24:06.760 --> 0:24:09.679
<v Speaker 2>Or does this exercise show that maybe if Carson Brunner

0:24:09.800 --> 0:24:12.800
<v Speaker 2>proves that he can be as reliable as Chronic, that's

0:24:12.800 --> 0:24:15.240
<v Speaker 2>where maybe one that's where you save your roster spot.

0:24:15.600 --> 0:24:16.840
<v Speaker 3>Maybe it's one of the two or neither.

0:24:18.119 --> 0:24:20.240
<v Speaker 2>If it's neither, then really, then where are your special

0:24:20.240 --> 0:24:21.320
<v Speaker 2>teams guys coming from?

0:24:21.560 --> 0:24:25.719
<v Speaker 3>Travis Homer Hummer and yeah, no one from. I mean

0:24:25.720 --> 0:24:28.560
<v Speaker 3>that's what kills you with a wide receiver and a

0:24:28.640 --> 0:24:32.440
<v Speaker 3>corner on game day. Almost have to be good special teamers.

0:24:32.160 --> 0:24:37.159
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, I mean going to right quality special teamers.

0:24:36.920 --> 0:24:39.040
<v Speaker 3>Like I don't some of these duders are just hard

0:24:39.040 --> 0:24:41.200
<v Speaker 3>to comment, Like no, Akowski will be on special teams,

0:24:41.200 --> 0:24:43.520
<v Speaker 3>but I don't know if he's good at it. Kolkom

0:24:43.600 --> 0:24:47.240
<v Speaker 3>will be on special teams. But we're a little light.

0:24:47.359 --> 0:24:50.200
<v Speaker 2>We're a little light, so we're what fifty four fifty four,

0:24:50.359 --> 0:24:53.000
<v Speaker 2>So we could cut a defensive lineman Autumn Wayo, we

0:24:53.000 --> 0:24:57.439
<v Speaker 2>could cut an offensive lineman Broderick. We could cut a

0:24:57.440 --> 0:24:58.040
<v Speaker 2>wide receiver.

0:24:58.800 --> 0:25:00.399
<v Speaker 3>I have a hard time cutting attack. That was the

0:25:00.400 --> 0:25:01.480
<v Speaker 3>first round picked three years.

0:25:01.560 --> 0:25:04.240
<v Speaker 2>We could cut a safety down to three safeties with

0:25:04.280 --> 0:25:07.240
<v Speaker 2>the ability of Jalen Ramsey to to be your fourth

0:25:07.320 --> 0:25:10.040
<v Speaker 2>and you know, break glass in case of emergency situations.

0:25:10.160 --> 0:25:11.600
<v Speaker 3>So I think these are the names we would have

0:25:11.640 --> 0:25:14.399
<v Speaker 3>to fight about and tweet us if you want. Guys

0:25:15.359 --> 0:25:19.600
<v Speaker 3>Ottawayo absolutely who easily could find himself on the practice

0:25:19.600 --> 0:25:24.560
<v Speaker 3>squad and you know doesn't mean he disappears off the planet,

0:25:25.560 --> 0:25:29.720
<v Speaker 3>Spears Jennings. I think the other three, the three veteran safeties.

0:25:29.720 --> 0:25:32.600
<v Speaker 2>I think they're saying, yes, you need at least three.

0:25:32.560 --> 0:25:36.199
<v Speaker 3>And then why do I can't? Jenkins is a very

0:25:36.200 --> 0:25:39.199
<v Speaker 3>good special teamer, so I was told a big reason

0:25:39.280 --> 0:25:42.720
<v Speaker 3>they swapped him for Savage was because of special Let's

0:25:42.760 --> 0:25:45.480
<v Speaker 3>not forget that part. So I think you're down to Ottawayo,

0:25:47.600 --> 0:25:50.879
<v Speaker 3>Spears Jennings, both of whom would likely end up on

0:25:50.920 --> 0:25:58.159
<v Speaker 3>your practice squad, or Roan Wilson or Scaronic or Chronic.

0:25:58.320 --> 0:26:01.480
<v Speaker 2>You're keeping nine offensive lineman though, like, no, no conversation,

0:26:02.040 --> 0:26:04.520
<v Speaker 2>I think because again, the only one realistically that you

0:26:04.520 --> 0:26:08.000
<v Speaker 2>could cut would be Broderick Jones and happy and they

0:26:08.080 --> 0:26:10.399
<v Speaker 2>just brought him in and not Jennings Dunker. They just

0:26:10.480 --> 0:26:11.800
<v Speaker 2>drafted himly right.

0:26:12.040 --> 0:26:14.200
<v Speaker 3>He's the only one. And the only way I consider

0:26:14.400 --> 0:26:17.800
<v Speaker 3>not having Jones on the opening day roster is if

0:26:17.920 --> 0:26:22.200
<v Speaker 3>Max was healthy and look great and I could get

0:26:22.200 --> 0:26:24.240
<v Speaker 3>a pick for Jones. I'm not just cutting them. I'm

0:26:24.280 --> 0:26:24.720
<v Speaker 3>just no way.

0:26:24.960 --> 0:26:27.200
<v Speaker 2>Well, now, that's also another scenario of this is that

0:26:27.240 --> 0:26:29.480
<v Speaker 2>Max is not ready for the start of the regular season,

0:26:29.480 --> 0:26:31.960
<v Speaker 2>and so you carry eight offensive linemen to begin and

0:26:32.000 --> 0:26:33.879
<v Speaker 2>then and then, like you said, you just kind of

0:26:33.880 --> 0:26:35.040
<v Speaker 2>bide your time and you wait.

0:26:34.880 --> 0:26:36.439
<v Speaker 3>And somebody will get hurt between that and now and

0:26:36.480 --> 0:26:38.959
<v Speaker 3>you move them around. Yes, chances are that's how this

0:26:39.040 --> 0:26:40.560
<v Speaker 3>will go down. When it's all said and done. We

0:26:40.640 --> 0:26:43.440
<v Speaker 3>have two football games, a bunch of practices that there

0:26:43.480 --> 0:26:46.320
<v Speaker 3>will be somebody we mentioned gets injured. You know, we're

0:26:46.359 --> 0:26:48.720
<v Speaker 3>assuming health is one hundred percent, which it won't be.

0:26:49.240 --> 0:26:53.880
<v Speaker 3>Never is. It never is, So opportunities will present themselves

0:26:53.880 --> 0:26:56.800
<v Speaker 3>to stash a guy, whether it's a little shady or not.

0:26:58.200 --> 0:27:02.120
<v Speaker 3>But chances are someone will have a legit injury absolutely

0:27:02.359 --> 0:27:04.080
<v Speaker 3>like Kent will be on injury reserve. But he had

0:27:04.119 --> 0:27:05.840
<v Speaker 3>no chance to make the team anyways because he was

0:27:05.880 --> 0:27:09.440
<v Speaker 3>in maybe the seventh corner or eighth corner. So if

0:27:09.440 --> 0:27:12.760
<v Speaker 3>it came down to a wide out Spears Jennings or

0:27:12.800 --> 0:27:15.680
<v Speaker 3>out Aweyo, who gets the acts for you?

0:27:17.680 --> 0:27:23.800
<v Speaker 2>Wide out Spears Jennings orwo Ottawaeyo is my first instinct,

0:27:24.160 --> 0:27:26.159
<v Speaker 2>just because of how good the six in front of

0:27:26.240 --> 0:27:30.520
<v Speaker 2>him are. Yeah, and I know I getting special teams

0:27:30.560 --> 0:27:31.640
<v Speaker 2>contributions from him.

0:27:31.800 --> 0:27:34.600
<v Speaker 3>True, there's something to work with there, but that you

0:27:34.640 --> 0:27:39.280
<v Speaker 3>still probably get him on your practice squad. Chances are, Yeah,

0:27:39.480 --> 0:27:41.320
<v Speaker 3>I really would like to keep seven. There's actually like

0:27:41.359 --> 0:27:44.120
<v Speaker 3>eight defensive way. Yeah, I guess you could consider Rubio too,

0:27:44.160 --> 0:27:46.119
<v Speaker 3>But I think Rubio is ahead of I.

0:27:46.119 --> 0:27:47.879
<v Speaker 2>Think he is as well, just based off of just

0:27:47.960 --> 0:27:50.600
<v Speaker 2>drafted by this staff. And yeah, a little bit younger

0:27:50.640 --> 0:27:51.560
<v Speaker 2>in some of those things.

0:27:52.119 --> 0:27:53.760
<v Speaker 3>I mean, there are a lot of snaps with only

0:27:53.760 --> 0:27:56.679
<v Speaker 3>two big people on the defense. It's not always a

0:27:56.680 --> 0:28:00.679
<v Speaker 3>three man front. Ottaway who probably would not be active

0:28:00.720 --> 0:28:03.880
<v Speaker 3>on game day week one, and maybe Rubio wouldn't either.

0:28:04.560 --> 0:28:06.520
<v Speaker 3>I mean, five's plenty usually for a game.

0:28:06.640 --> 0:28:08.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's interesting.

0:28:08.760 --> 0:28:11.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I guess it's him, I think.

0:28:11.920 --> 0:28:14.160
<v Speaker 2>But then then you are heavier on the offensive side

0:28:14.160 --> 0:28:16.159
<v Speaker 2>of the ball. You're twenty six verse twenty four. But

0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:17.879
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't be great. It doesn't have to be a

0:28:17.880 --> 0:28:19.600
<v Speaker 2>perfect twenty five twenty five spla.

0:28:19.560 --> 0:28:21.520
<v Speaker 3>No, it doesn't, it doesn't. I mean it is only

0:28:21.560 --> 0:28:24.879
<v Speaker 3>one player difference from being twenty five twenty. It sounds like, oh,

0:28:24.880 --> 0:28:27.080
<v Speaker 3>we got two more. Well, yeah you do. But if

0:28:27.080 --> 0:28:29.320
<v Speaker 3>we kept one more, then we subtract from you know,

0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:29.960
<v Speaker 3>then we're equal.

0:28:30.000 --> 0:28:34.520
<v Speaker 2>It's not twenty eight and twenty two, right, right, right right? Yeah?

0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:37.639
<v Speaker 3>Interesting. I don't think you can keep five receivers. I mean,

0:28:37.680 --> 0:28:41.240
<v Speaker 3>if they're gonna play a last year, you could.

0:28:41.600 --> 0:28:44.880
<v Speaker 2>Less unless unless it's unless it's scronic that you're cutting

0:28:45.040 --> 0:28:47.000
<v Speaker 2>and you keep the four plus week.

0:28:47.040 --> 0:28:49.200
<v Speaker 3>I need five guys that can any four that can run.

0:28:49.160 --> 0:28:51.120
<v Speaker 2>Round, four guys that I know can run routes.

0:28:51.120 --> 0:28:54.280
<v Speaker 3>And hey, because you're fourth, he's one injury away from

0:28:54.320 --> 0:28:57.120
<v Speaker 3>almost being a starter, because I still think they're gonna

0:28:57.120 --> 0:29:00.000
<v Speaker 3>play a lot of eleven. So he's uncuttable.

0:29:00.560 --> 0:29:03.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think, so you gotta have four. You have

0:29:03.160 --> 0:29:06.320
<v Speaker 2>to have your four best route runners yes, and as

0:29:06.480 --> 0:29:08.920
<v Speaker 2>wide receivers yes, as of now ran and.

0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:10.920
<v Speaker 3>We know who those four are. Yes, And hey, they're

0:29:10.960 --> 0:29:11.440
<v Speaker 3>all safe.

0:29:11.600 --> 0:29:13.800
<v Speaker 2>I think they're all safe. Thanks can change, but I

0:29:13.840 --> 0:29:14.840
<v Speaker 2>think they're all safe.

0:29:15.720 --> 0:29:17.480
<v Speaker 3>So I guess it's a a way I think.

0:29:17.520 --> 0:29:17.680
<v Speaker 2>So.

0:29:18.440 --> 0:29:21.240
<v Speaker 3>I think Ramsey could play a lot of safety, sure could.

0:29:21.800 --> 0:29:25.440
<v Speaker 3>But I also think Beers Jennings would end up on

0:29:25.440 --> 0:29:27.760
<v Speaker 3>your practice squad and probably play snaps for you this

0:29:27.840 --> 0:29:31.120
<v Speaker 3>year no matter what somehow as a call up or

0:29:31.320 --> 0:29:34.760
<v Speaker 3>first injury. He's your first call. That's rough on him.

0:29:34.760 --> 0:29:36.760
<v Speaker 3>He didn't really doing wrong, No, he didn't, you know,

0:29:36.840 --> 0:29:38.960
<v Speaker 3>I mean, he's a success story at to this point. Yeah.

0:29:38.960 --> 0:29:40.960
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, a lot of these I mean a lot of

0:29:41.000 --> 0:29:43.160
<v Speaker 2>these guys that you would love to, uh to keep

0:29:43.200 --> 0:29:45.680
<v Speaker 2>around and continue, And that's what you have the practice

0:29:45.680 --> 0:29:49.080
<v Speaker 2>squad for, obviously. But that's why these decisions are tough.

0:29:49.120 --> 0:29:51.800
<v Speaker 2>That's why you get so many practices in preseason games

0:29:51.800 --> 0:29:55.600
<v Speaker 2>and every snap matters, and everything is dissected and and

0:29:55.600 --> 0:29:58.880
<v Speaker 2>and uh and peeled back and and really put under

0:29:58.880 --> 0:30:01.959
<v Speaker 2>a microscope here for the these guys, and how the

0:30:01.960 --> 0:30:04.880
<v Speaker 2>bottom of this roster shakes out and where uh, you know,

0:30:04.920 --> 0:30:06.920
<v Speaker 2>you kind of want of a lot your roster spots too,

0:30:07.040 --> 0:30:08.480
<v Speaker 2>in terms of all the different positions.

0:30:08.920 --> 0:30:12.480
<v Speaker 3>So I do like Attuweo or Spears Jennings, but we

0:30:12.520 --> 0:30:17.160
<v Speaker 3>decided Attuwayo is the guy getting the you're out. But

0:30:17.680 --> 0:30:23.560
<v Speaker 3>who's more valuable in game day Autuwayo or Rudolph clearly Rudolph. Yeah, yeah,

0:30:23.960 --> 0:30:25.400
<v Speaker 3>I mean, he's the difference winning a lot.

0:30:25.480 --> 0:30:27.719
<v Speaker 2>Your best number two quarterback is more important than your

0:30:27.760 --> 0:30:29.080
<v Speaker 2>seventh defensive.

0:30:28.680 --> 0:30:32.400
<v Speaker 3>And who's more important to the organization Outawayo or Howard.

0:30:33.800 --> 0:30:36.440
<v Speaker 2>Howard just because of the potential there of what he

0:30:36.520 --> 0:30:37.920
<v Speaker 2>what he could you know, be a starting quirt.

0:30:38.000 --> 0:30:39.840
<v Speaker 3>And I hadn't done this exercise in my head, but

0:30:39.960 --> 0:30:43.840
<v Speaker 3>after doing it, it makes me think keeping four is smart.

0:30:45.280 --> 0:30:47.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm not looking at it and saying, oh

0:30:47.320 --> 0:30:50.880
<v Speaker 2>my goodness, that fourth quarterback is the difference between you know,

0:30:50.960 --> 0:30:53.440
<v Speaker 2>this guy has to make the roster and the fourth quarterback.

0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:54.720
<v Speaker 3>Is going to be the difference. Like I would hate

0:30:54.720 --> 0:30:57.280
<v Speaker 3>for Howard to not be here next year, at least

0:30:57.320 --> 0:30:58.440
<v Speaker 3>be at Latrope.

0:30:59.280 --> 0:31:02.560
<v Speaker 2>Agreed with a caveat of depending on what we see

0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:05.560
<v Speaker 2>from Drew Adler kind of the rest of the way here. Yeah,

0:31:05.640 --> 0:31:07.960
<v Speaker 2>because if you and I get to September thirteen.

0:31:07.840 --> 0:31:10.920
<v Speaker 3>Having an extra good young quarterbacks on problem, right, But if.

0:31:10.840 --> 0:31:13.000
<v Speaker 2>We get to September thirteenth, then it's pretty clear, like,

0:31:13.280 --> 0:31:15.200
<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, Drew. If one of these guys is going

0:31:15.240 --> 0:31:16.760
<v Speaker 2>to be the future, it's going to be Drew, then

0:31:16.800 --> 0:31:19.040
<v Speaker 2>I would be okay with Will Howard not being back here.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if that's reasonable that that could be

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<v Speaker 2>the case, you know, yeah, three weeks from now or

0:31:23.040 --> 0:31:25.120
<v Speaker 2>four weeks from now, whenever that whenever that would be.

0:31:26.200 --> 0:31:28.480
<v Speaker 3>But it's I just think Howard has more value to

0:31:28.520 --> 0:31:31.240
<v Speaker 3>the organization with than a Spears Jennings.

0:31:30.880 --> 0:31:34.000
<v Speaker 2>Or not a way, without a doubt. You can find those.

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<v Speaker 3>Out draft one of them in the six year yea,

0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:35.959
<v Speaker 3>and they'll be fair. Hey.

0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:37.320
<v Speaker 2>You can find a lot of quarterbacks in the city.

0:31:37.360 --> 0:31:40.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah much any special. But if he's your next Rudolph

0:31:40.160 --> 0:31:43.280
<v Speaker 3>for eight years as a backup, that's more valuable than

0:31:43.400 --> 0:31:47.960
<v Speaker 3>a seventh round safety year. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Matt, We've got a Saint Vincent football practice getting ready

0:31:50.560 --> 0:31:52.480
<v Speaker 2>to start in front of us over here on the

0:31:52.520 --> 0:31:55.160
<v Speaker 2>far side field. How old are they, Matt? They are

0:31:55.160 --> 0:31:59.000
<v Speaker 2>college kids, Saint Vincent College. You've got two of them

0:31:59.000 --> 0:32:01.040
<v Speaker 2>at home. They are in the Okay teen to twenty

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<v Speaker 2>two range.

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<v Speaker 3>Usually no offense to Saints.

0:32:04.720 --> 0:32:06.240
<v Speaker 2>That was really funny. I was like, I got the

0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:07.920
<v Speaker 2>same vidom Matt's like, how old are they? What do

0:32:07.960 --> 0:32:08.960
<v Speaker 2>you mean how old they are?

0:32:08.960 --> 0:32:12.560
<v Speaker 3>They? Well, I guess they are wor Saint Vincent Jerseys.

0:32:12.720 --> 0:32:15.120
<v Speaker 3>There's not a Saint Vincent High school in the area, right.

0:32:16.560 --> 0:32:18.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, Matt. That one little middle linebacker looks

0:32:18.760 --> 0:32:20.320
<v Speaker 2>like you might be about twenty seven years old.

0:32:20.360 --> 0:32:22.640
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I mean, no offense to their football program,

0:32:22.640 --> 0:32:24.840
<v Speaker 3>but they don't look like Georgia or Ohio State.

0:32:27.120 --> 0:32:29.080
<v Speaker 2>It's Division III football.

0:32:30.200 --> 0:32:32.080
<v Speaker 3>They look like junior high kids to be from here.

0:32:32.160 --> 0:32:34.040
<v Speaker 3>In my eyes, that could use a little work, folks.

0:32:34.080 --> 0:32:37.040
<v Speaker 2>That was my favorite moment of camp. Here comes they're

0:32:37.080 --> 0:32:39.400
<v Speaker 2>not close by it, it comes the local college football

0:32:39.400 --> 0:32:40.160
<v Speaker 2>team to practice.

0:32:40.160 --> 0:32:44.120
<v Speaker 3>How old are those? I thought they might be junior high.

0:32:45.120 --> 0:32:47.360
<v Speaker 3>That no one looks like the only even looks like

0:32:47.400 --> 0:32:50.960
<v Speaker 3>alignment out there to be. Do they have anyone that's

0:32:50.960 --> 0:32:52.360
<v Speaker 3>two hundred ninety pounds or bigger?

0:32:53.600 --> 0:32:55.480
<v Speaker 2>That was the laugh I needed today. I tell you

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<v Speaker 2>what fantastic.

0:32:56.560 --> 0:33:00.240
<v Speaker 3>I hope they go undefeated. And they're awesome, but it's

0:33:00.280 --> 0:33:02.400
<v Speaker 3>a little different than watching the football. We've been one

0:33:02.440 --> 0:33:05.040
<v Speaker 3>of the best well sure, well I know, but yeah.

0:33:04.880 --> 0:33:06.840
<v Speaker 2>I think they're one of the better, uh like Division

0:33:06.840 --> 0:33:08.720
<v Speaker 2>three programs in this in this area. You look at

0:33:08.720 --> 0:33:09.640
<v Speaker 2>the resources that they.

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<v Speaker 3>Get, it doesn't shock me. And I'm rooting for partnership.

0:33:14.160 --> 0:33:17.440
<v Speaker 2>I promise I'm gonna go get a Saint Vincent had

0:33:17.480 --> 0:33:17.959
<v Speaker 2>on my way out.

0:33:18.120 --> 0:33:19.800
<v Speaker 3>I'm not selling jeans here. It doesn't matter what they

0:33:19.840 --> 0:33:22.400
<v Speaker 3>look like. They may all be speedsters and great players

0:33:22.800 --> 0:33:26.800
<v Speaker 3>selling jeans, they don't look like the Georgia Bulldogs will

0:33:26.800 --> 0:33:26.960
<v Speaker 3>take you.

0:33:27.080 --> 0:33:29.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna send Matt down there to go scout these

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<v Speaker 2>guys out.

0:33:30.280 --> 0:33:33.480
<v Speaker 3>Might that's a good looking group. You know what bad eyes.

0:33:33.640 --> 0:33:35.400
<v Speaker 2>Look like the Georgia Bulldogs. But maybe they could play

0:33:35.400 --> 0:33:37.760
<v Speaker 2>in the Sun Belt. Come on, big shout out to

0:33:37.840 --> 0:33:40.840
<v Speaker 2>the Saint Vincent Collegiate football team. They've probably been champion

0:33:40.880 --> 0:33:43.320
<v Speaker 2>at the bit waiting to get out here. Oh probably, yeah,

0:33:43.360 --> 0:33:44.960
<v Speaker 2>And so I think this might this might even be

0:33:45.000 --> 0:33:47.280
<v Speaker 2>their first, uh first go at it. I think they

0:33:47.280 --> 0:33:50.120
<v Speaker 2>have had some somet I think they practice at one

0:33:50.160 --> 0:33:51.960
<v Speaker 2>of the local high schools for like a week before

0:33:52.000 --> 0:33:54.120
<v Speaker 2>this that does ring a bell. We'll have some fun.

0:33:54.120 --> 0:33:56.080
<v Speaker 2>We'll see if anything interesting happens in the in the

0:33:56.080 --> 0:33:58.440
<v Speaker 2>Saint Vincent practice. In front of us is Matt and

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<v Speaker 2>Now, Matt, we got a tweet from Terry here who

0:35:05.480 --> 0:35:08.479
<v Speaker 2>says the Saint Vincent College team may not be big,

0:35:08.520 --> 0:35:10.520
<v Speaker 2>but I would take them and the points if they played.

0:35:10.600 --> 0:35:11.759
<v Speaker 3>Wvu ha.

0:35:12.360 --> 0:35:14.200
<v Speaker 2>Now you know, Terry, that's just a low blow. That's

0:35:14.239 --> 0:35:16.680
<v Speaker 2>just uncalled for. It's a glorious Monday here. Matt and

0:35:16.719 --> 0:35:18.600
<v Speaker 2>I have finally made it to the end of the grind.

0:35:18.680 --> 0:35:21.360
<v Speaker 2>That's training camp. We got all wet and soaked to

0:35:21.440 --> 0:35:23.520
<v Speaker 2>walk up here and give me a three hour show,

0:35:23.760 --> 0:35:24.879
<v Speaker 2>and you're gonna do me like that.

0:35:25.680 --> 0:35:27.120
<v Speaker 3>Come on, Terry, it could be a lot of points.

0:35:27.160 --> 0:35:29.880
<v Speaker 2>Come on, Terry. Also, it could be a lot of princes.

0:35:30.480 --> 0:35:30.800
<v Speaker 3>Also.

0:35:31.320 --> 0:35:34.080
<v Speaker 2>Also listen, I know my Mountaineers have had our struggles,

0:35:34.120 --> 0:35:37.239
<v Speaker 2>all right. But Matt was up here saying he might

0:35:37.280 --> 0:35:40.239
<v Speaker 2>take some Western Pennsylvania football high school football teams like

0:35:40.280 --> 0:35:45.319
<v Speaker 2>maybe Ali Quipper or Hills Central Catholic. We'll see again.

0:35:45.360 --> 0:35:48.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna send Matt down there to scout. At some point,

0:35:48.040 --> 0:35:51.200
<v Speaker 2>Ian says the Saint Vincent College football program is bad.

0:35:51.239 --> 0:35:53.719
<v Speaker 2>He said, I was recruited to play there and they

0:35:53.719 --> 0:35:56.080
<v Speaker 2>went oh to thirteen that year. I believe not sure

0:35:56.080 --> 0:35:59.120
<v Speaker 2>if that says more about the program or my football ability.

0:36:00.800 --> 0:36:02.600
<v Speaker 2>I thought that they did struggle for a long time.

0:36:02.640 --> 0:36:04.839
<v Speaker 2>But for some reason, I thought they've had a couple

0:36:04.880 --> 0:36:09.279
<v Speaker 2>of good years recently. I'm not sure, though. Man, that's

0:36:09.320 --> 0:36:10.279
<v Speaker 2>a that's an interesting one.

0:36:10.280 --> 0:36:12.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm a little excited to watch them an action though.

0:36:12.560 --> 0:36:13.520
<v Speaker 3>If they do something.

0:36:13.280 --> 0:36:15.520
<v Speaker 2>Here, Yeah, I mean they will.

0:36:15.520 --> 0:36:17.920
<v Speaker 3>They're gonna they're practice right here we go.

0:36:18.640 --> 0:36:20.480
<v Speaker 2>I think Ian was I think Ian was right. They

0:36:20.480 --> 0:36:22.480
<v Speaker 2>went two and eight last year, one and nine, the

0:36:22.560 --> 0:36:25.600
<v Speaker 2>year before, three and seven, the year before that, five

0:36:25.600 --> 0:36:28.160
<v Speaker 2>and five, five and six. When was the last time

0:36:28.160 --> 0:36:29.080
<v Speaker 2>they had a winning season.

0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:31.680
<v Speaker 3>It's been a long time, Okay.

0:36:32.000 --> 0:36:35.040
<v Speaker 2>Twenty eleven was the last time they had a winning season. Yeah,

0:36:35.080 --> 0:36:36.319
<v Speaker 2>you know what, this is gonna be the year they're

0:36:36.320 --> 0:36:37.160
<v Speaker 2>gonna get that turned around.

0:36:37.200 --> 0:36:37.399
<v Speaker 3>Matt.

0:36:37.400 --> 0:36:37.920
<v Speaker 2>How about that?

0:36:38.200 --> 0:36:42.440
<v Speaker 3>I see a lot of future accountants and whatnot on

0:36:42.480 --> 0:36:42.920
<v Speaker 3>that field.

0:36:42.960 --> 0:36:45.160
<v Speaker 2>You and Terry are just being mean out here. I'm

0:36:45.160 --> 0:36:46.800
<v Speaker 2>trying to be nice. I'm trying to be popped.

0:36:46.840 --> 0:36:49.040
<v Speaker 3>I wish I'm the best. They've been good to us.

0:36:49.080 --> 0:36:52.000
<v Speaker 2>They sure have, Matt. Before we get into the four

0:36:52.040 --> 0:36:54.319
<v Speaker 2>o'clock hour, we're gonna do a fun thing called the

0:36:54.400 --> 0:36:58.040
<v Speaker 2>Campies that our buddies. Our buddies, Max Starks and Mike

0:36:58.080 --> 0:37:00.279
<v Speaker 2>Pursuda came up with, but I do to have a

0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:02.560
<v Speaker 2>little fantasy football focus with you here for a few minutes.

0:37:04.480 --> 0:37:05.239
<v Speaker 3>Yes, all right.

0:37:05.400 --> 0:37:10.680
<v Speaker 2>Basically, NFL dot Com did ideal top two picks for

0:37:10.760 --> 0:37:12.640
<v Speaker 2>each draft slot in a twelve team league.

0:37:13.000 --> 0:37:15.080
<v Speaker 3>I haven't given this part much thought, so I take

0:37:15.120 --> 0:37:16.320
<v Speaker 3>this guy? Who do I get?

0:37:17.000 --> 0:37:18.640
<v Speaker 2>So here's how they said, if you're in a twelve

0:37:18.640 --> 0:37:21.439
<v Speaker 2>team league, the best scenario you could have. I want

0:37:21.440 --> 0:37:23.520
<v Speaker 2>to run these past you, and you can say I'd

0:37:23.520 --> 0:37:25.200
<v Speaker 2>take it or I'd go fish. Sound.

0:37:25.280 --> 0:37:26.919
<v Speaker 3>I think the first two picks are basically the same.

0:37:26.960 --> 0:37:29.600
<v Speaker 3>It's Jamiir or Bijon, and then what do you do

0:37:29.640 --> 0:37:30.360
<v Speaker 3>with the next one?

0:37:30.440 --> 0:37:34.160
<v Speaker 2>So for first pick, they go Jamiir Gibbs first round,

0:37:34.239 --> 0:37:38.440
<v Speaker 2>first pick, Malik Neighbors second round, twelfth pick, take it

0:37:38.520 --> 0:37:38.919
<v Speaker 2>or go fish.

0:37:39.080 --> 0:37:43.120
<v Speaker 3>I think he's healthy. He was so far down the

0:37:43.120 --> 0:37:46.040
<v Speaker 3>list because he looked terrible in the preseason in the offseason,

0:37:46.520 --> 0:37:48.480
<v Speaker 3>but by all accounts he's a full go and rate

0:37:48.480 --> 0:37:52.319
<v Speaker 3>a rock. I think I take it. It seems a

0:37:52.440 --> 0:37:54.400
<v Speaker 3>little rich for Neighbors, but I'm cool with it.

0:37:54.840 --> 0:37:59.480
<v Speaker 2>Picking second b Jon Robinson first round, second overall. Jeremiah

0:37:59.560 --> 0:38:01.440
<v Speaker 2>loves second round eleventh pick.

0:38:01.760 --> 0:38:05.000
<v Speaker 3>No, but this isn't I'm go fish, but this is

0:38:05.080 --> 0:38:06.879
<v Speaker 3>just because he came out this morning as a high

0:38:06.880 --> 0:38:10.240
<v Speaker 3>ankle spran. So that's probably you know, the author probably

0:38:10.239 --> 0:38:15.120
<v Speaker 3>didn't know that, which they linger man. I hate for

0:38:15.200 --> 0:38:16.920
<v Speaker 3>any rough fantasy player.

0:38:17.320 --> 0:38:20.720
<v Speaker 2>Picking third Puka Nakua in the first round, third overall

0:38:20.760 --> 0:38:24.120
<v Speaker 2>from the Rams, second round, tenth pick Drake London.

0:38:25.080 --> 0:38:27.239
<v Speaker 3>Two wide receivers, Yes, but I would never go wide

0:38:27.239 --> 0:38:27.719
<v Speaker 3>receiver wide.

0:38:27.920 --> 0:38:30.759
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't either, So that's my only problem saying I

0:38:30.880 --> 0:38:33.360
<v Speaker 2>like both of those players from a fantasy football perspective.

0:38:33.680 --> 0:38:37.000
<v Speaker 3>So like my main league, we pull cards and if

0:38:37.000 --> 0:38:38.600
<v Speaker 3>you get the ace, you get to pick wherever you

0:38:38.600 --> 0:38:39.560
<v Speaker 3>want from one to twelve.

0:38:39.719 --> 0:38:40.080
<v Speaker 2>Nice.

0:38:40.239 --> 0:38:43.319
<v Speaker 3>So like if you told me right now, I don't

0:38:43.360 --> 0:38:45.359
<v Speaker 3>know where I pick, but it might have to give

0:38:45.440 --> 0:38:47.560
<v Speaker 3>up my first and second pick for London and the coup,

0:38:47.640 --> 0:38:48.360
<v Speaker 3>I would say.

0:38:48.160 --> 0:38:51.440
<v Speaker 2>No, if you pulled that card, where would you I

0:38:51.480 --> 0:38:53.920
<v Speaker 2>don't know yet. I might pick second because.

0:38:53.680 --> 0:38:55.800
<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't pick first. I'd take second. I would take.

0:38:55.680 --> 0:38:57.400
<v Speaker 2>Second because you'll get one of those guys and then

0:38:57.400 --> 0:38:59.120
<v Speaker 2>you'll get a pick earlier in the second round.

0:38:59.239 --> 0:39:01.160
<v Speaker 3>But I also like to do as the draft goes on.

0:39:01.239 --> 0:39:04.719
<v Speaker 3>If you pick like second or third, or eleventh or tenth,

0:39:05.160 --> 0:39:07.080
<v Speaker 3>and the first guy already took a quarterback, you know

0:39:07.120 --> 0:39:08.440
<v Speaker 3>you don't have to take it going into him. You

0:39:08.440 --> 0:39:10.200
<v Speaker 3>can wait and get one coming out, you know, things

0:39:10.239 --> 0:39:10.520
<v Speaker 3>like that.

0:39:11.480 --> 0:39:17.640
<v Speaker 2>So picking fourth, first round, fourth pick, Christian McCaffrey, fourth overall.

0:39:17.440 --> 0:39:19.000
<v Speaker 3>That's where he's going. I just don't know that I

0:39:19.040 --> 0:39:20.719
<v Speaker 3>want the fourth pack. I don't want the fourth pick.

0:39:20.719 --> 0:39:23.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't think definitely I take Jamar Chase over him. Actually,

0:39:23.000 --> 0:39:24.120
<v Speaker 3>I don't want the fifth pick either.

0:39:24.520 --> 0:39:27.600
<v Speaker 2>Second round, ninth pick, George Pickens, I'm going no, I'm

0:39:27.640 --> 0:39:28.040
<v Speaker 2>going fish.

0:39:28.239 --> 0:39:30.440
<v Speaker 3>No. I would not give my first two picks for.

0:39:30.400 --> 0:39:35.160
<v Speaker 2>That, picking fifth overall, Jackson Smith and Jigba fifth overall,

0:39:35.320 --> 0:39:37.560
<v Speaker 2>Zay Flowers second round, eighth.

0:39:37.440 --> 0:39:39.839
<v Speaker 3>Pick two rich for z For me, I think he's

0:39:39.880 --> 0:39:40.399
<v Speaker 3>more of a third.

0:39:40.480 --> 0:39:43.280
<v Speaker 2>And again, two wide receives, don't I gotta come away

0:39:43.320 --> 0:39:45.520
<v Speaker 2>with with something more than two wide receivers.

0:39:45.640 --> 0:39:48.920
<v Speaker 3>There's only like sixteen to eighteen running backs. I'm real

0:39:48.960 --> 0:39:51.640
<v Speaker 3>comfortable to start, and I don't want to start with

0:39:51.920 --> 0:39:52.680
<v Speaker 3>zero of them.

0:39:52.719 --> 0:39:54.640
<v Speaker 2>And again that's where I'm at. Whereas like I have

0:39:54.680 --> 0:39:56.200
<v Speaker 2>to take a running back at least with one of

0:39:56.239 --> 0:39:58.399
<v Speaker 2>my first two picks, although Matt this would be hard

0:39:58.440 --> 0:40:01.560
<v Speaker 2>to say no to. First round on sixth pick Jamar Chase.

0:40:01.600 --> 0:40:03.120
<v Speaker 3>I don't think he ever was in the last of six.

0:40:03.719 --> 0:40:04.239
<v Speaker 3>He might be.

0:40:04.239 --> 0:40:07.880
<v Speaker 2>Third, but anyway, Second round, seventh pick Josh Allen, I

0:40:07.880 --> 0:40:09.040
<v Speaker 2>think I would take that.

0:40:09.040 --> 0:40:09.800
<v Speaker 3>That's pretty strong.

0:40:09.840 --> 0:40:11.719
<v Speaker 2>You don't get a running back, but man, you get

0:40:11.800 --> 0:40:13.960
<v Speaker 2>maybe the best wide receiver and the best quarterback.

0:40:14.239 --> 0:40:16.360
<v Speaker 3>I would go fish just because I don't want to

0:40:16.360 --> 0:40:18.520
<v Speaker 3>pay the Allen price, but I don't want to play

0:40:18.520 --> 0:40:21.239
<v Speaker 3>against that team. I mean, those two could combine for

0:40:21.719 --> 0:40:22.759
<v Speaker 3>sixty points a week.

0:40:22.920 --> 0:40:25.120
<v Speaker 2>You don't even like Allen there and like the back half.

0:40:25.239 --> 0:40:27.440
<v Speaker 3>That's where he's worth. I'm going to take one in

0:40:27.480 --> 0:40:28.799
<v Speaker 3>the eleventh rag as you know.

0:40:29.480 --> 0:40:33.359
<v Speaker 2>Picking seventh. First round seventh pick Jonathan Taylor. Second round

0:40:33.440 --> 0:40:35.000
<v Speaker 2>sixth pick Ashton Genty.

0:40:35.920 --> 0:40:36.680
<v Speaker 3>That's pretty solid.

0:40:36.680 --> 0:40:38.919
<v Speaker 2>It's pretty solid. Yeah, yeah, I might take that instead

0:40:38.920 --> 0:40:39.400
<v Speaker 2>of going.

0:40:39.239 --> 0:40:41.400
<v Speaker 3>Pretty strong starters. Yeah.

0:40:41.440 --> 0:40:42.440
<v Speaker 2>Picking eighth, you'd.

0:40:42.280 --> 0:40:44.560
<v Speaker 3>Still have plenty of receivers pick for throwing totally. Yeah.

0:40:44.680 --> 0:40:48.080
<v Speaker 2>Third run on picking eighth Amon Ross Saint Brown. Second

0:40:48.160 --> 0:40:49.719
<v Speaker 2>round fifth pick Rock Bowers.

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<v Speaker 3>I was wondering where Bowers would end up in this exercise,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I keep thinking, if I'm picking first or second,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe I could get Bowers. At the end of the

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<v Speaker 3>second I'm thinking that probably is Pie in the sky.

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<v Speaker 2>He's going fifth pick of the second round here, so

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<v Speaker 2>that would put him seventeenth. Overall.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm still gonna go fish though, no running No running

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<v Speaker 3>back in the first two picks. It's tough, yeah, because

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I would maybe come back and get it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, pretty much always going fish if that's the scenario.

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<v Speaker 3>It seems that way. I mean that Chase Allen one

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<v Speaker 3>was kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the one I think that I would take, But

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<v Speaker 2>the other ones, I'm definitely going fish on.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, in the third round, you could get Loveland or

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<v Speaker 3>McBride or another pretty strong tight end.

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<v Speaker 2>Picking ninth first round, ninth pick Devon a Chain of

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<v Speaker 2>the Miami Dolphins, second round, fourth pick Omarion Hampton of

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<v Speaker 2>the Chargers. Two running backs not bad.

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<v Speaker 3>I just don't think i'd take a Chan at nine.

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<v Speaker 2>A little too high.

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<v Speaker 3>He's gonna get such a workload and he's really really good.

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<v Speaker 3>I just and rarely am I afraid of injuries. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>kind of cocky that way, Like I gets hurt I'll

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<v Speaker 3>find somebody else. I'm a good owner, but he's so

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<v Speaker 3>little and he's on such a bad team. I just

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<v Speaker 3>think he's gonna get the crap knocked out of him

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<v Speaker 3>this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Picking tenth Justin Jefferson, first round, tenth overall, Chase Brown

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<v Speaker 2>round third pick.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, but I think I would have taken Hampton or

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<v Speaker 3>Genty who went after Chase Brown. You know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>Like if I had, if you gave me Justin Jefferson

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<v Speaker 3>in choice of running backs, I just don't think i'd

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<v Speaker 3>take Brown. But Jefferson at ten, I know that's where

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<v Speaker 3>he's going.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know you'll get a solid running back.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, five picks later. The more we talk through this,

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<v Speaker 3>I might I think I want to pick at the

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<v Speaker 3>top of the first round, but the back half here

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<v Speaker 3>is better than the middle. The middle I didn't like.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, picking eleventh James Cook Buffalo Bills, and then second round,

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<v Speaker 2>second pick ceed Lamb.

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<v Speaker 3>I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Take that for first Yeah, James Cook and Ceedee Lamb. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and then last but certainly not least, first round twelfth

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<v Speaker 2>overall A J. Brown and then Derrick Henry. No.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't trust Brown. I think Brown is near the end,

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<v Speaker 3>he's really low on my list.

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<v Speaker 2>I am, I can. I would be shocked if his

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<v Speaker 2>his ADP is high as twelve round.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't believe he's going to be shocked if that

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<v Speaker 3>were the case. Ye, Like, I'd take London ahead of him,

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<v Speaker 3>and he went like ten picks later in.

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<v Speaker 2>This one, London calling to the far away towns.

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<v Speaker 3>That Lamb and Cook ones kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>That's real good.

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<v Speaker 3>That my favorite of all of them. Matt.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got an hour in the books, two more hours

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<v Speaker 2>to go to conclude our training camp coverage here from

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<v Speaker 2>Saint Vincent College. I want to get into the campies.

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<v Speaker 2>When we return, we'll find out some training camp awards.

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<v Speaker 2>This was an exercise done on Steelers dot Com by

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<v Speaker 2>our buddies, PURSUITA and Starks. We'll see what their answers are,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll give our answers, and we'll kick around some of

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<v Speaker 2>the things that we've seen and noticed here over the

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<v Speaker 2>last three weeks. Uller and Williamson. It is the drive

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<v Speaker 2>hour in the books. Two hours to go, all part

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