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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Steeler Nation, and for the final time here
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six, Welcome to the campus of Saint
Speaker 2: Vincent College. In a wet and soggy but now the
Speaker 2: sunshine coming out of the es I saw of a
Speaker 2: sudden letro Pennsylvania. Matt and I both look like dogs
Speaker 2: that just jumped into the swimming pool as we got
Speaker 2: crushed walking from the cafeteria to the show here. But
Speaker 2: now the skies are blue and the sun is shining,
Speaker 2: and maybe, Matt, we should have just waited a few
Speaker 2: minutes longer. But we are with you. Here for the
Speaker 2: next three hours. Matt. It is our final show from campus.
Speaker 2: Here is part of our training camp coverage.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's been awesome and quick funny story. Like
Speaker 3: the hotel we say that is honestly like a three
Speaker 3: minute ride. You can basically see it from here. You know,
Speaker 3: you could walk there if you wanted to. So I
Speaker 3: get in my car to come over. Practice was canceled.
Speaker 3: I guess we probably should have lead with that. The
Speaker 3: final practice was did never happen. So I didn't leave
Speaker 3: my room until I was gonna meet you in the
Speaker 3: cafeteria at like two o'clock and we're going on the
Speaker 3: air three. So I got all my bags and I'm
Speaker 3: walking to the car and I'm like, all right, here
Speaker 3: we go, last day checked out. Get in the car,
Speaker 3: turn it on, and the sky just opens up so much.
Speaker 3: So I'm driving over. I'm like, oh man, I don't
Speaker 3: have an umbrella. It's gonna be a long walk to
Speaker 3: the cafeteria. Part cars close to the cafeteria as I
Speaker 3: possibly can hit, put it in park, and it just stopped.
Speaker 3: I'm like, this is my day.
Speaker 2: I got to get some lottery right tapped.
Speaker 3: I mean, like, this is my day. This is unbelievable.
Speaker 3: It rained for exactly three minutes my trip, Matt. When
Speaker 3: we get when we and then we came out of
Speaker 3: there and we got our hair.
Speaker 2: We looked like we just jumped out of the swimming pool.
Speaker 2: You need to stop at the casino on Route thirty
Speaker 2: there on our way out there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they brought me back to reality with the
Speaker 3: walk over here lots a couple of.
Speaker 2: Times that that is funny, and it is. Uh, it's
Speaker 2: been a weird it's been.
Speaker 3: A weird week.
Speaker 2: It's been a weird camp. It's been a weird day
Speaker 2: in terms of the weather. Like we said, sun is shining.
Speaker 2: Actually the skies are.
Speaker 3: Blue right now. Canceled practice and man, it.
Speaker 2: Rained a lot yesterday, rained, overnight, rained this morning because
Speaker 2: of that practice closed, uh and canceled. Actually is it
Speaker 2: wasn't even like a close to the public type thing.
Speaker 3: It was right right right.
Speaker 2: Practice was canceled for the day people. And so Matt,
Speaker 2: it's usually a quiet campus by the time you and
Speaker 2: I get to our last show here as we are
Speaker 2: kind of the caboose of this whole thing. But it's
Speaker 2: even quieter today than it typically is with no fans.
Speaker 2: I know a lot of the players and coaches are
Speaker 2: already out. Licteria closed early. Poor Matt didn't get a
Speaker 2: full schmugesborg a lunch like myself and Ed Troop did.
Speaker 3: I just found anything I could scavenge while they were
Speaker 3: cleaning up. Basically had ice cream for lunch.
Speaker 2: Ice cream and a cheeseburger. Man, if that ain't that's
Speaker 2: like every seventeen year old's dream bunch right there, just
Speaker 2: living living the dream out here baby as Yeah, so
Speaker 2: a different day today, a little anti climactic and kind
Speaker 2: of the way that the camp rounded out, But hey,
Speaker 2: you can control what you can control, and the weather
Speaker 2: is certainly not something that you can control. You just
Speaker 2: got to roll with the punches with that, Matt. We've
Speaker 2: got a lot of ground to cover today as we've
Speaker 2: got a bonus hour, We've got a three hour show,
Speaker 2: our last three hour show for a little while, and
Speaker 2: and of course we're gonna get to your tweets. We
Speaker 2: do have a lot of fun stuff planned for you,
Speaker 2: including an idea that Matt kind of came up with
Speaker 2: last night slash this morning. Yeah, and I think is
Speaker 2: a really fun one for us to start this first
Speaker 2: hour of the program today, Matt, and that is quite
Speaker 2: simply fifty three man initial roster for the Steelers.
Speaker 3: But we haven't done it yet. This isn't our final answer.
Speaker 3: We got time, we'll do.
Speaker 2: It.
Speaker 3: Seemed like a monumental day to do it.
Speaker 2: But you said, let's try and piece together the Steelers
Speaker 2: fifty three man roster with.
Speaker 3: Four quartermack with four quarterbacks. So now that's a much
Speaker 3: bigger conversation, and I don't want to have it right now.
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna say and chat with Mike Pursudo last night.
Speaker 3: I've chatted with a lot of folks that do what
Speaker 3: we do. Jerry du Lack's been pushing for this. It's
Speaker 3: a real possibility since day one of training camp. I
Speaker 3: don't think any of the quarterbacks have shown poorly. So
Speaker 3: instead of fighting should we keep four or not, I'm
Speaker 3: just saying we're keeping four and what does it look like?
Speaker 3: Because we got a tweet about it saying what position
Speaker 3: would get short cut? And I don't want to do
Speaker 3: a two minute answer on that. In the last segment
Speaker 3: during Twitter time, I'm like, let's figure it out where
Speaker 3: what what can we do to make that work? Now?
Speaker 3: One caveat that I ninety percent understand you can finagel
Speaker 3: things in terms of you put someone on your practice
Speaker 3: like you can put Travis Homer on your practice squad
Speaker 3: and you could call them up twice. I think it is.
Speaker 3: And then you got to make a decision. So you
Speaker 3: can do things like that, the kind of buy time,
Speaker 3: you know, Bruner or you know, but they got to,
Speaker 3: you know, make sure they get up on the practice
Speaker 3: squad first of all. But you can finagel things your
Speaker 3: roster a little more than the old days, like these
Speaker 3: are the fifty three and these are all I have
Speaker 3: to deal with. But I just thought it be fun,
Speaker 3: like is it feasible would the roster be a disaster.
Speaker 2: Or just where you're cutting from? What position group?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, can weather it? You know? Yes?
Speaker 2: Now, so I think a couple of things that we
Speaker 2: can establish here right off the jump, and if it's
Speaker 2: okay with you, we'll kind of with the parameter of
Speaker 2: this being you're keeping four quarterbacks on the roster, yeah,
Speaker 2: I figure we go ahead and start on the offensive
Speaker 2: side of the ball.
Speaker 3: Then yes, And really we're gonna come up with forty
Speaker 3: six names because there's three specialists are making the team.
Speaker 2: That's funny you say that literally if you look at
Speaker 2: my piece of paper here, because.
Speaker 3: I look over so.
Speaker 2: I have four quarterbacks. I have three teams. Okay, that
Speaker 2: means that means Chris Boswell, Cam Johnson and Christian Kots
Speaker 2: even talk about don't even talk about Hi.
Speaker 3: You're gonna have.
Speaker 2: Thirty seconds of our life. You can have wasted talking
Speaker 2: about three teamers. You're gonna have four quarterbacks. That puts
Speaker 2: us a seven already, Matt. Let's talk running backs. How
Speaker 2: many are we gonna keep? And you came up with this.
Speaker 3: Just to make it fun. Let's jot down every name
Speaker 3: that has a chance, and then we'll have Then we'll
Speaker 3: come back and maybe in the second segment and fight
Speaker 3: about who doesn't make it. You know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 3: are there? Okay, let's start with thrownning backs.
Speaker 2: Let's start runing.
Speaker 3: Okay, Warren and Dowell absolutely boom boom to me, non
Speaker 3: locks are everybody else? Yes? But to me, Homer would
Speaker 3: be the third.
Speaker 2: I agree, and then Lou Nichols fourth.
Speaker 3: I think I think Caleb has no chance.
Speaker 2: I probably put Hide and Rek at five and Caleb
Speaker 2: at six.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I always still don't think of Hide and
Speaker 3: Rake as a running back.
Speaker 2: But that's where they've got him.
Speaker 3: So I think that has to probably be three.
Speaker 2: I think it's three.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I think that's the way to do it.
Speaker 2: And again, we could kind of argue about how do
Speaker 2: they consider Homer, But I think as of now, I
Speaker 2: think it's three, and I.
Speaker 3: Think it would be protector.
Speaker 1: He is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's making the team.
Speaker 3: He's making the team. You need him on game day.
Speaker 3: I mean again, maybe you could.
Speaker 2: Some fun angling like you talked about by a.
Speaker 3: Couple of weeks and while you're trying to dangle Caleb
Speaker 3: Johnson or something like that, or if Warren has a
Speaker 3: bad knee, maybe you try that Homer trick so that
Speaker 3: Nichols can be active for two weeks until he's ready
Speaker 3: here you know, like that. Those are why the rules exist.
Speaker 3: But I think three true running backs and a full back.
Speaker 3: You aback written down.
Speaker 2: Oh you're right, I was forgetting something.
Speaker 3: You're right. Last, they have a fullback and they are
Speaker 3: going to keep one, Yes they are. So I think
Speaker 3: it's also safe to say tight ends are next on
Speaker 3: your list. That enter next three. Three. Yeah, I think
Speaker 3: Tanyan's that third.
Speaker 2: I think he is too, and I really don't know
Speaker 2: who else is truly in the equation.
Speaker 3: I've heard some buzz about Bell.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, Jaem Bell would be probably the
Speaker 2: fourth one dimension, but it's it feels like Tanyan, especially
Speaker 2: by that preseason game of course, is clearly that third guy,
Speaker 2: you know, one of our camp darlings of past JJ
Speaker 2: Gallbreath no longer here. Yeah, I mean maybe again, maybe
Speaker 2: Bell can still have something to say in this process.
Speaker 2: But they're going to keep three.
Speaker 3: They're going to keep three, and we don't even have
Speaker 3: to know the names one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: Right, we know two? Three? Yeah, Tanyan certainly, I think.
Speaker 3: He's like home where he's a ninety percent.
Speaker 2: I would say that's I would say that that's about
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 3: Another note, but it doesn't change our numbers. Maybe the
Speaker 3: Browns or some bad team cuts an older running back
Speaker 3: or tight end just to keep a young guy, and
Speaker 3: you say I'll take him over Tanya and her Homer. Okay,
Speaker 3: but your numbers are still the same.
Speaker 2: Yes, that then that's that's the important kicker there. Wide
Speaker 2: receivers interesting, Matt.
Speaker 3: Yes, we have a set number there that we have
Speaker 3: to absolutely stand by.
Speaker 2: DK Metcalf Michael Pittman junior Bernard Roman Wilson I still
Speaker 2: think is pretty harm and then we put Chronic in Wigian.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's six. I wish this sounds wrong because it's
Speaker 3: I have no problem with Wigen, but he's gonna make
Speaker 3: the team. He's a FOURTHROND pick and he's your top returner.
Speaker 3: But I wish you could combine him and Roman Wilson,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like I wish Roman Wilson
Speaker 3: was already a great returner. So you could only keep
Speaker 3: five because Weegen and Scronic have to be active on
Speaker 3: game day, which means Roman won't be mm hmm.
Speaker 2: But unless they have six active on game.
Speaker 3: Day, I guess that's possible, possible, But I.
Speaker 2: Think they're gonna keep sick. I think they're gonna keep
Speaker 2: six regardless. You are right, though, man yourself anywhere. Remember
Speaker 2: we have an extra quarterback, right, That's where eventually somewhere
Speaker 2: we're gonna have to have a rubber meets right.
Speaker 3: We'red fifty four here, so but we.
Speaker 2: Can always we can always walk this back too and
Speaker 2: just have to. Yeah, I think we will.
Speaker 3: Some of the sounds easy until you do the math
Speaker 3: and you come up with fifty five or fifty four.
Speaker 2: So what we have left for the offense here is
Speaker 2: offensive line Matt Okay, Yes, the starting five as currently constituted.
Speaker 3: Called Cook the five I am. Yes, I'm gonna.
Speaker 2: Say Futanu, McCormick, Frasier, Anderson Cook. Those are five, MAXI
Speaker 2: Hana is six.
Speaker 3: Hopefully that's not like an ir situation or that too
Speaker 3: would right.
Speaker 2: I know, because because Mike McCarthy said not he doesn't
Speaker 2: see Max playing this week against the Jets. He did
Speaker 2: say that earlier today. We'll get to that more.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure we'll talk on I don't love.
Speaker 2: It starting five, Max six, Dunker. I mean we could
Speaker 2: say Hoffman seven, Dunker eight, Broderick, Broderick nine.
Speaker 3: I think McCollum's a no. I think every other O
Speaker 3: lineman's a no. So you have four tackles, yes, five
Speaker 3: interior guys, Yes, two rookies.
Speaker 2: Could you see a scenario where they only keep eight
Speaker 2: and no Broderick only if.
Speaker 3: He could trade him. That's kind of what I was
Speaker 3: thinking with Roman.
Speaker 2: I think nine's the right number to put for now
Speaker 2: for offensive lineman.
Speaker 3: Okay, super quick, Since we disfinished offense of the names
Speaker 3: We basically didn't chisel in, but we wrote in pen
Speaker 3: literally after you said, know the pen dudes you could
Speaker 3: trade because I don't want to cut any of these
Speaker 3: dudes we talked about. But if you give me a pick, okay,
Speaker 3: I need a roster spot.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't think there's any at wide receiver.
Speaker 3: I think Rudolph Broderick are your only tradeable assets. No
Speaker 3: one's gonna give you anything for Roman right now.
Speaker 2: No one's gonna give anything for Roman. And you would
Speaker 2: have other tradable assets, but they're not gonna be guys
Speaker 2: that you would want to like, you know, at this
Speaker 2: point trading Hoffman. At this point, you just signed him
Speaker 2: and drafted those guys, drafted and signed those two.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean and Jones and Rudolph for both three agents.
Speaker 3: After the year, conceivably somebody might offer you a pick
Speaker 3: that you would consider for one of those guys. I
Speaker 3: don't think Romans in that mix because he's two years
Speaker 3: removed out of college. I'd have to light up the preseason.
Speaker 2: Completely agree, completely agree.
Speaker 3: But I like Roman more and more, but he's kind
Speaker 3: of messing us up because if he's not active on
Speaker 3: game day. Between them and Bernard, and he's not a
Speaker 3: he's not a return guy, and he's not a special teamer.
Speaker 3: He's been better, but like of all the dudes we've
Speaker 3: penciled in here, I hate to say it, but he's
Speaker 3: the one that's maybe the most useless, just in term
Speaker 3: of constructing a game day.
Speaker 2: Even you could, you could, you could see a scenario
Speaker 2: where Broderick would become more needed, but I would think
Speaker 2: it would be one.
Speaker 3: Roderick, you're starting right tackle. Hey, I mean, I guess
Speaker 3: you're right.
Speaker 2: I guess that's not I guess that's not inconceivable at
Speaker 2: this point.
Speaker 3: I mean, as it stands here in the last day
Speaker 3: of camp, he's gonna be taking snaps with the ones.
Speaker 3: I bet the next time they get together, or maybe
Speaker 3: even be this. I mean, I don't think he's gonna
Speaker 3: start in the game, but I bet he'll be quick
Speaker 3: off the bench again.
Speaker 2: And we can see a lot of him on the
Speaker 2: right side potentially in this preseason game Friday night against
Speaker 2: that you think you can.
Speaker 3: Afford to move on from him, I mean, you have
Speaker 3: to blow me away.
Speaker 2: So that's twenty six offensive rostered players.
Speaker 3: Matt including specially not including specially.
Speaker 2: So we're at twenty we're at twenty nine. Yeah, you're
Speaker 2: twenty nine here already. Yes, and we have not even
Speaker 2: discussed the defense. So let's take a break. Let's table
Speaker 2: this for now. We're gonna flip the other side of
Speaker 2: the football defense. And again, eventually, at some point we're
Speaker 2: gonna have to get lighter in a position group maybe somewhere.
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll revisit something with the wide receivers or the
Speaker 2: offensive line. But you have to stay with us to
Speaker 2: find out if.
Speaker 3: He cutschronic man, I think he's pretty valuable.
Speaker 2: You'd have to really have some other guys emerge as
Speaker 2: special teams deep right.
Speaker 3: And there to We'll talk about those guys next segment.
Speaker 2: You know where to get at us if you want
Speaker 2: to get involved. Wes Yuler, Matt Williamson. I'm liking this
Speaker 2: idea that Matt came up with to start the show today.
Speaker 3: Through it. It's harder than you think.
Speaker 2: It always it always is, it always is Williamson, We're
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Speaker 2: It back on campus. For our final Saint Vincent College
Speaker 2: edition of The Drive, Matt I was laughing this morning
Speaker 2: when Mike McCarthy spoke to close down Camp. We'll bring
Speaker 2: you some of that audio at some point in the
Speaker 2: show to yeah as well, he did the inser thing
Speaker 2: that you and I were talking about a couple days ago.
Speaker 3: He throws messes on the end.
Speaker 2: He said, I just want to say everyone here at
Speaker 2: Saint Vincent's has been a plus.
Speaker 3: Ah time.
Speaker 2: You know it's hilarious. Is then I went and I
Speaker 2: was on NFL dot com and I was reading like
Speaker 2: their training Camp round up and they quoted Mike McCarthy
Speaker 2: in there, and then their quote they actually typed out
Speaker 2: Saint Vincent's in the quote. I'm like, oh, yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: that's what you gotta do because that's what he said.
Speaker 3: But I'll even text like going back to Saint Viz
Speaker 3: to my parents and there's no or my family or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get what you're saying, Saint these Yeah, but
Speaker 2: it is Saint Vincent College here, correct.
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 2: I was just laughing at that. It was like Mike
Speaker 2: McCarthy with the little the little drive inside joke of
Speaker 2: putting an S on the end of everything that we
Speaker 2: that we do in western Pennsylvania. And like I told you,
Speaker 2: I think that's a Pennsylvania thing. I think it is
Speaker 2: in general because I've got relatives in the central part
Speaker 2: of the state. My wife is from the eastern part
Speaker 2: of the state, and they all they all do it
Speaker 2: as well too. Matt. We are in the middle of
Speaker 2: an exercise here where we are trying to predict the
Speaker 2: Steelers fifty three man roster under the premise of the
Speaker 2: team keeping four quarterbacks and where you might have to
Speaker 2: pinch from.
Speaker 3: Somewhere else get crowded quick.
Speaker 2: We did the offense to start the show, twenty six
Speaker 2: guys on offense that we had in our initial number,
Speaker 2: again subject to change here before.
Speaker 3: We close this exercise down have to make a cut.
Speaker 2: And then of course you assume three special teamers kicker, punter,
Speaker 2: and long snapper as always. That puts us at twenty
Speaker 2: nine already, which would give us twenty four spots for.
Speaker 3: The for the defense entire defense.
Speaker 2: Which I guess, hey, when you look at the split offense,
Speaker 2: twenty six defense twenty four wouldn't be that far off.
Speaker 2: But let's see if.
Speaker 3: That's how the little leaning a little.
Speaker 2: See how that actually plays out here, Matt. Can we
Speaker 2: start on the defensive line to again, and this does
Speaker 2: not include ed Rusher, So this doesn't include DJ and
Speaker 2: high Smith and you know herbig and on. We're just
Speaker 2: the big people with their with their hands into trenches.
Speaker 3: The minimum is six, and they have kept six at
Speaker 3: times over the years as a true three to four defense,
Speaker 3: and back then they didn't play as much nickel with
Speaker 3: only two of these guys on the field either, So
Speaker 3: six was not a crazy number, you know, back in
Speaker 3: the day at Lobau times. I think seven is almost
Speaker 3: mandatory though, considering the players available, and frankly, there's a
Speaker 3: about eight players I don't want to get rid of. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and that's no way you can take keep eight. But
Speaker 3: there's eight names I would hate to see Goup.
Speaker 2: Cam Hayward, Derek Harmon, Keanu Benton y a Black d Day.
Speaker 2: That's five locks. I think Rubio is as well too.
Speaker 2: I know a sixth round pick isn't guaranteed to make
Speaker 2: the roster like a third or fourth round pick, but
Speaker 2: everything that we've heard and seen and he is a
Speaker 2: draft pick rookie, I think he's six. And then it
Speaker 2: comes down to do you keep a seventh? That is
Speaker 2: Autumn Wayo, that is Dean Lowry, that is someone along
Speaker 2: those lines.
Speaker 3: Ottawayo would be my choice.
Speaker 2: I think, I actually I don't think I know that
Speaker 2: he would be. If we're keeping seven, he would be
Speaker 2: the seventh. He'd be the seventh.
Speaker 3: So let's put seven down.
Speaker 2: And maybe this is where we come back and too heavy.
Speaker 3: I hope not.
Speaker 2: But let's let's put seven down for now. And again
Speaker 2: though we I think at some point we're gonna have
Speaker 2: to revisit one of these position groups and make a
Speaker 2: tough decision. That's the whole point of this exercise.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, right, right, edge rushers.
Speaker 2: I think this one's pretty simple, right, TJ. Hi Smith
Speaker 2: herbig and then one other.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's probably the number is going to be four.
Speaker 2: It's probably still Jack Sawyer's probably job. But I also
Speaker 2: think Jamin Davis, if he continues to do what he
Speaker 2: does over two more games, could certainly make it a conversation.
Speaker 2: But it's going to be four.
Speaker 3: Right, It's gonna be four. You can't keep both. They
Speaker 3: can battle it out for that last spot, but you
Speaker 3: can't keep us. Has to be.
Speaker 2: Premise of how we're doing this, sexers right exactly.
Speaker 3: I mean, if you had three quarterbacks Davis is intriguing enough,
Speaker 3: we'll keep them, maybe, you know.
Speaker 2: But right now we're gonna go with four for edge.
Speaker 2: So seven defensive linemen, four edge rushers, eleven guys there
Speaker 2: total at the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 3: Let's go to corner.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: I know that's not the order. My brand doesn't work
Speaker 3: that way either, but I kind of have a hunch
Speaker 3: that if we get light. It has to almost come
Speaker 3: it off the ball linebacker or safety.
Speaker 2: Even more so than going down to six at defensive line.
Speaker 3: Possibly, I'm talking about remaining things. Okay, okay, I think
Speaker 3: corner is an easy one, but it's a big number.
Speaker 2: Joey Porter, Junior, Kwon Brisker. Are we counting? Let's count
Speaker 2: Ramseys are sorry, not sorry, not Brisker. He's a safety.
Speaker 2: I was thinking, Ramsey, Yeah, yeah, do we want to
Speaker 2: count him as a corner?
Speaker 3: Yes? I think he's a nickel one. We'll call those guys.
Speaker 2: Going Ramsey, Porter, Dean Sante Samuel makes four, Brandon Eckles
Speaker 2: makes five.
Speaker 3: Makes it absolutely? So that's six six. I think that
Speaker 3: now again, could we get to the point where Eccles
Speaker 3: is still banged up enough to be on short term
Speaker 3: injured reserve? Absolutely, you could handle a month without Eccles.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's a good player, but he may not
Speaker 3: even be active on game dayut of these group, I mean,
Speaker 3: I think ever it would be the guy that ought
Speaker 3: to be. But as it stands now, I mean this
Speaker 3: could be true with d line too. You know, uh
Speaker 3: Ottawayo or one of those dudes could get a hangnail
Speaker 3: or have a legit injury, and he makes your decision
Speaker 3: a little easier. But as it stands now, assuming health,
Speaker 3: I think you have to keep six.
Speaker 2: I'm with you. That to me seems like the right
Speaker 2: number there.
Speaker 3: But this hurts you a little bit too, kind of
Speaker 3: like the Roman Wilson conversation, because of those six who
Speaker 3: were good special teamers, Like, there's not a Pierre in
Speaker 3: that group, right, you know, I mean Eccles is serviceable,
Speaker 3: but I'm not sure if he's one of your top
Speaker 3: two gunners. You're a little light on special teams, like
Speaker 3: keeping six corners, because there's usually if you're gonna keep
Speaker 3: six corners, one of them is pretty awesome special.
Speaker 2: Teams, right, right, right, Like Pierre was right, you want
Speaker 2: to go to safety next or line either linebacker. Let's
Speaker 2: let's stick with safety since kind of the secondary here
Speaker 2: we are obviously Deshaun Elliott and Jakwan Brisker I think
Speaker 2: are two locks. Yeah, and then Robert Spears Jennings a lock.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know he's a seventh round pick, but
Speaker 2: he's I think had a pretty good camp.
Speaker 3: I would say he's a ninety percenter.
Speaker 2: He was drafted by this staff, and.
Speaker 3: I think what's his face? They just signed.
Speaker 2: Jack Henderson.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, But I am I not
Speaker 3: thinking that they when they cut Savage, Yes.
Speaker 2: When they yes, when they cut Savage, who they brought
Speaker 2: in for him?
Speaker 3: He basically was a starter in the game. In my
Speaker 3: brain's not working.
Speaker 2: Round Jenkins right right, Yes, ye Jenkins.
Speaker 3: I think he's a ninety percenter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're leaning towards four. Its safety, you could
Speaker 2: live with three.
Speaker 3: I mean that sounds that sounds nuts.
Speaker 2: You could live with because of Ramsey, Ramsey's versatility.
Speaker 3: But I don't think they want him to play a
Speaker 3: lot of say I wish I knew those answers. So
Speaker 3: I think you've put four down when we do the math.
Speaker 2: I think that's again knowing where they would like to
Speaker 2: deploy Ramsey. Hey, that's one of those things that we
Speaker 2: really haven't had much conversation about now, right, we haven't
Speaker 2: seen Ramsey in this addition of training.
Speaker 3: Camp, and you've heard my my tinfoil hat theory is,
Speaker 3: I don't think they want the general public to know
Speaker 3: their Ramsey intentions. I think I think magically he's gonna
Speaker 3: come off pop when they go to the Southside. I
Speaker 3: just think he's a wild card. I think he's an
Speaker 3: answer out there that their opponents don't know yet.
Speaker 2: This happened now, Matt, if we want to do this
Speaker 2: in where well, I even shouldn't even frame it that way.
Speaker 2: I should just tell you right now, we have fifty
Speaker 2: guys on.
Speaker 3: Our roster, so we only have three spots.
Speaker 2: So we only have three spots at inside linebacker, or
Speaker 2: we got to cut a defensive lineman, we got to
Speaker 2: cut a offensive lineman.
Speaker 3: We got to cut get inside linebackers.
Speaker 2: I don't think you can keep three inside linebackers. No, Patrick, Queen,
Speaker 2: Peyton Wilson, Cole Holcom, Milandon Roberts.
Speaker 3: I think Bruner's in trouble.
Speaker 2: But again, though, then that gets back to where your
Speaker 2: core special teams guys that same conversation with.
Speaker 3: But so, I mean, even if they kept three quarterbacks,
Speaker 3: I think Bruner's in trouble because that gets you to
Speaker 3: fifty three with three quarterbacks. Like you said, we only
Speaker 3: got room for three dudes.
Speaker 2: Yes, and you know that, you know they at least
Speaker 2: four linebackers.
Speaker 3: I think they can only keep four. No matter what. Now,
Speaker 3: the moment when we talked through.
Speaker 2: This under the under the kind of circumstances here. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so that may you.
Speaker 3: Could practice squad Brunner and bring them up twice, but
Speaker 3: that's only two out of seventeen days you get up.
Speaker 2: So if we're going four off all mypecial.
Speaker 3: Teamers, the special teamers are rough.
Speaker 2: Like, then you're definitely keeping Scratch.
Speaker 3: I was saying that too, like Scronic's pretty safe.
Speaker 2: Or does this exercise show that maybe if Carson Brunner
Speaker 2: proves that he can be as reliable as Chronic, that's
Speaker 2: where maybe one that's where you save your roster spot.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's one of the two or neither.
Speaker 2: If it's neither, then really, then where are your special
Speaker 2: teams guys coming from?
Speaker 3: Travis Homer Hummer and yeah, no one from. I mean
Speaker 3: that's what kills you with a wide receiver and a
Speaker 3: corner on game day. Almost have to be good special teamers.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I mean going to right quality special teamers.
Speaker 3: Like I don't some of these duders are just hard
Speaker 3: to comment, Like no, Akowski will be on special teams,
Speaker 3: but I don't know if he's good at it. Kolkom
Speaker 3: will be on special teams. But we're a little light.
Speaker 2: We're a little light, so we're what fifty four fifty four,
Speaker 2: So we could cut a defensive lineman Autumn Wayo, we
Speaker 2: could cut an offensive lineman Broderick. We could cut a
Speaker 2: wide receiver.
Speaker 3: I have a hard time cutting attack. That was the
Speaker 3: first round picked three years.
Speaker 2: We could cut a safety down to three safeties with
Speaker 2: the ability of Jalen Ramsey to to be your fourth
Speaker 2: and you know, break glass in case of emergency situations.
Speaker 3: So I think these are the names we would have
Speaker 3: to fight about and tweet us if you want. Guys
Speaker 3: Ottawayo absolutely who easily could find himself on the practice
Speaker 3: squad and you know doesn't mean he disappears off the planet,
Speaker 3: Spears Jennings. I think the other three, the three veteran safeties.
Speaker 2: I think they're saying, yes, you need at least three.
Speaker 3: And then why do I can't? Jenkins is a very
Speaker 3: good special teamer, so I was told a big reason
Speaker 3: they swapped him for Savage was because of special Let's
Speaker 3: not forget that part. So I think you're down to Ottawayo,
Speaker 3: Spears Jennings, both of whom would likely end up on
Speaker 3: your practice squad, or Roan Wilson or Scaronic or Chronic.
Speaker 2: You're keeping nine offensive lineman though, like, no, no conversation,
Speaker 2: I think because again, the only one realistically that you
Speaker 2: could cut would be Broderick Jones and happy and they
Speaker 2: just brought him in and not Jennings Dunker. They just
Speaker 2: drafted himly right.
Speaker 3: He's the only one. And the only way I consider
Speaker 3: not having Jones on the opening day roster is if
Speaker 3: Max was healthy and look great and I could get
Speaker 3: a pick for Jones. I'm not just cutting them. I'm
Speaker 3: just no way.
Speaker 2: Well, now, that's also another scenario of this is that
Speaker 2: Max is not ready for the start of the regular season,
Speaker 2: and so you carry eight offensive linemen to begin and
Speaker 2: then and then, like you said, you just kind of
Speaker 2: bide your time and you wait.
Speaker 3: And somebody will get hurt between that and now and
Speaker 3: you move them around. Yes, chances are that's how this
Speaker 3: will go down. When it's all said and done. We
Speaker 3: have two football games, a bunch of practices that there
Speaker 3: will be somebody we mentioned gets injured. You know, we're
Speaker 3: assuming health is one hundred percent, which it won't be.
Speaker 3: Never is. It never is, So opportunities will present themselves
Speaker 3: to stash a guy, whether it's a little shady or not.
Speaker 3: But chances are someone will have a legit injury absolutely
Speaker 3: like Kent will be on injury reserve. But he had
Speaker 3: no chance to make the team anyways because he was
Speaker 3: in maybe the seventh corner or eighth corner. So if
Speaker 3: it came down to a wide out Spears Jennings or
Speaker 3: out Aweyo, who gets the acts for you?
Speaker 2: Wide out Spears Jennings orwo Ottawaeyo is my first instinct,
Speaker 2: just because of how good the six in front of
Speaker 2: him are. Yeah, and I know I getting special teams
Speaker 2: contributions from him.
Speaker 3: True, there's something to work with there, but that you
Speaker 3: still probably get him on your practice squad. Chances are, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I really would like to keep seven. There's actually like
Speaker 3: eight defensive way. Yeah, I guess you could consider Rubio too,
Speaker 3: But I think Rubio is ahead of I.
Speaker 2: Think he is as well, just based off of just
Speaker 2: drafted by this staff. And yeah, a little bit younger
Speaker 2: in some of those things.
Speaker 3: I mean, there are a lot of snaps with only
Speaker 3: two big people on the defense. It's not always a
Speaker 3: three man front. Ottaway who probably would not be active
Speaker 3: on game day week one, and maybe Rubio wouldn't either.
Speaker 3: I mean, five's plenty usually for a game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess it's him, I think.
Speaker 2: But then then you are heavier on the offensive side
Speaker 2: of the ball. You're twenty six verse twenty four. But
Speaker 2: it doesn't be great. It doesn't have to be a
Speaker 2: perfect twenty five twenty five spla.
Speaker 3: No, it doesn't, it doesn't. I mean it is only
Speaker 3: one player difference from being twenty five twenty. It sounds like, oh,
Speaker 3: we got two more. Well, yeah you do. But if
Speaker 3: we kept one more, then we subtract from you know,
Speaker 3: then we're equal.
Speaker 2: It's not twenty eight and twenty two, right, right, right right? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Interesting. I don't think you can keep five receivers. I mean,
Speaker 3: if they're gonna play a last year, you could.
Speaker 2: Less unless unless it's unless it's scronic that you're cutting
Speaker 2: and you keep the four plus week.
Speaker 3: I need five guys that can any four that can run.
Speaker 2: Round, four guys that I know can run routes.
Speaker 3: And hey, because you're fourth, he's one injury away from
Speaker 3: almost being a starter, because I still think they're gonna
Speaker 3: play a lot of eleven. So he's uncuttable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, so you gotta have four. You have
Speaker 2: to have your four best route runners yes, and as
Speaker 2: wide receivers yes, as of now ran and.
Speaker 3: We know who those four are. Yes, And hey, they're
Speaker 3: all safe.
Speaker 2: I think they're all safe. Thanks can change, but I
Speaker 2: think they're all safe.
Speaker 3: So I guess it's a a way I think.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 3: I think Ramsey could play a lot of safety, sure could.
Speaker 3: But I also think Beers Jennings would end up on
Speaker 3: your practice squad and probably play snaps for you this
Speaker 3: year no matter what somehow as a call up or
Speaker 3: first injury. He's your first call. That's rough on him.
Speaker 3: He didn't really doing wrong, No, he didn't, you know,
Speaker 3: I mean, he's a success story at to this point. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, a lot of these I mean a lot of
Speaker 2: these guys that you would love to, uh to keep
Speaker 2: around and continue, And that's what you have the practice
Speaker 2: squad for, obviously. But that's why these decisions are tough.
Speaker 2: That's why you get so many practices in preseason games
Speaker 2: and every snap matters, and everything is dissected and and
Speaker 2: and uh and peeled back and and really put under
Speaker 2: a microscope here for the these guys, and how the
Speaker 2: bottom of this roster shakes out and where uh, you know,
Speaker 2: you kind of want of a lot your roster spots too,
Speaker 2: in terms of all the different positions.
Speaker 3: So I do like Attuweo or Spears Jennings, but we
Speaker 3: decided Attuwayo is the guy getting the you're out. But
Speaker 3: who's more valuable in game day Autuwayo or Rudolph clearly Rudolph. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, he's the difference winning a lot.
Speaker 2: Your best number two quarterback is more important than your
Speaker 2: seventh defensive.
Speaker 3: And who's more important to the organization Outawayo or Howard.
Speaker 2: Howard just because of the potential there of what he
Speaker 2: what he could you know, be a starting quirt.
Speaker 3: And I hadn't done this exercise in my head, but
Speaker 3: after doing it, it makes me think keeping four is smart.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not looking at it and saying, oh
Speaker 2: my goodness, that fourth quarterback is the difference between you know,
Speaker 2: this guy has to make the roster and the fourth quarterback.
Speaker 3: Is going to be the difference. Like I would hate
Speaker 3: for Howard to not be here next year, at least
Speaker 3: be at Latrope.
Speaker 2: Agreed with a caveat of depending on what we see
Speaker 2: from Drew Adler kind of the rest of the way here. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because if you and I get to September thirteen.
Speaker 3: Having an extra good young quarterbacks on problem, right, But if.
Speaker 2: We get to September thirteenth, then it's pretty clear, like,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, Drew. If one of these guys is going
Speaker 2: to be the future, it's going to be Drew, then
Speaker 2: I would be okay with Will Howard not being back here.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's reasonable that that could be
Speaker 2: the case, you know, yeah, three weeks from now or
Speaker 2: four weeks from now, whenever that whenever that would be.
Speaker 3: But it's I just think Howard has more value to
Speaker 3: the organization with than a Spears Jennings.
Speaker 2: Or not a way, without a doubt. You can find those.
Speaker 3: Out draft one of them in the six year yea,
Speaker 3: and they'll be fair. Hey.
Speaker 2: You can find a lot of quarterbacks in the city.
Speaker 3: Yeah much any special. But if he's your next Rudolph
Speaker 3: for eight years as a backup, that's more valuable than
Speaker 3: a seventh round safety year. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Matt, We've got a Saint Vincent football practice getting ready
Speaker 2: to start in front of us over here on the
Speaker 2: far side field. How old are they, Matt? They are
Speaker 2: college kids, Saint Vincent College. You've got two of them
Speaker 2: at home. They are in the Okay teen to twenty
Speaker 2: two range.
Speaker 3: Usually no offense to Saints.
Speaker 2: That was really funny. I was like, I got the
Speaker 2: same vidom Matt's like, how old are they? What do
Speaker 2: you mean how old they are?
Speaker 3: They? Well, I guess they are wor Saint Vincent Jerseys.
Speaker 3: There's not a Saint Vincent High school in the area, right.
Speaker 2: I don't know, Matt. That one little middle linebacker looks
Speaker 2: like you might be about twenty seven years old.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, no offense to their football program,
Speaker 3: but they don't look like Georgia or Ohio State.
Speaker 2: It's Division III football.
Speaker 3: They look like junior high kids to be from here.
Speaker 3: In my eyes, that could use a little work, folks.
Speaker 2: That was my favorite moment of camp. Here comes they're
Speaker 2: not close by it, it comes the local college football
Speaker 2: team to practice.
Speaker 3: How old are those? I thought they might be junior high.
Speaker 3: That no one looks like the only even looks like
Speaker 3: alignment out there to be. Do they have anyone that's
Speaker 3: two hundred ninety pounds or bigger?
Speaker 2: That was the laugh I needed today. I tell you
Speaker 2: what fantastic.
Speaker 3: I hope they go undefeated. And they're awesome, but it's
Speaker 3: a little different than watching the football. We've been one
Speaker 3: of the best well sure, well I know, but yeah.
Speaker 2: I think they're one of the better, uh like Division
Speaker 2: three programs in this in this area. You look at
Speaker 2: the resources that they.
Speaker 3: Get, it doesn't shock me. And I'm rooting for partnership.
Speaker 2: I promise I'm gonna go get a Saint Vincent had
Speaker 2: on my way out.
Speaker 3: I'm not selling jeans here. It doesn't matter what they
Speaker 3: look like. They may all be speedsters and great players
Speaker 3: selling jeans, they don't look like the Georgia Bulldogs will
Speaker 3: take you.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna send Matt down there to go scout these
Speaker 2: guys out.
Speaker 3: Might that's a good looking group. You know what bad eyes.
Speaker 2: Look like the Georgia Bulldogs. But maybe they could play
Speaker 2: in the Sun Belt. Come on, big shout out to
Speaker 2: the Saint Vincent Collegiate football team. They've probably been champion
Speaker 2: at the bit waiting to get out here. Oh probably, yeah,
Speaker 2: And so I think this might this might even be
Speaker 2: their first, uh first go at it. I think they
Speaker 2: have had some somet I think they practice at one
Speaker 2: of the local high schools for like a week before
Speaker 2: this that does ring a bell. We'll have some fun.
Speaker 2: We'll see if anything interesting happens in the in the
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Speaker 2: Now, Matt, we got a tweet from Terry here who
Speaker 2: says the Saint Vincent College team may not be big,
Speaker 2: but I would take them and the points if they played.
Speaker 3: Wvu ha.
Speaker 2: Now you know, Terry, that's just a low blow. That's
Speaker 2: just uncalled for. It's a glorious Monday here. Matt and
Speaker 2: I have finally made it to the end of the grind.
Speaker 2: That's training camp. We got all wet and soaked to
Speaker 2: walk up here and give me a three hour show,
Speaker 2: and you're gonna do me like that.
Speaker 3: Come on, Terry, it could be a lot of points.
Speaker 2: Come on, Terry. Also, it could be a lot of princes.
Speaker 3: Also.
Speaker 2: Also listen, I know my Mountaineers have had our struggles,
Speaker 2: all right. But Matt was up here saying he might
Speaker 2: take some Western Pennsylvania football high school football teams like
Speaker 2: maybe Ali Quipper or Hills Central Catholic. We'll see again.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna send Matt down there to scout. At some point,
Speaker 2: Ian says the Saint Vincent College football program is bad.
Speaker 2: He said, I was recruited to play there and they
Speaker 2: went oh to thirteen that year. I believe not sure
Speaker 2: if that says more about the program or my football ability.
Speaker 2: I thought that they did struggle for a long time.
Speaker 2: But for some reason, I thought they've had a couple
Speaker 2: of good years recently. I'm not sure, though. Man, that's
Speaker 2: a that's an interesting one.
Speaker 3: I'm a little excited to watch them an action though.
Speaker 3: If they do something.
Speaker 2: Here, Yeah, I mean they will.
Speaker 3: They're gonna they're practice right here we go.
Speaker 2: I think Ian was I think Ian was right. They
Speaker 2: went two and eight last year, one and nine, the
Speaker 2: year before, three and seven, the year before that, five
Speaker 2: and five, five and six. When was the last time
Speaker 2: they had a winning season.
Speaker 3: It's been a long time, Okay.
Speaker 2: Twenty eleven was the last time they had a winning season. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know what, this is gonna be the year they're
Speaker 2: gonna get that turned around.
Speaker 3: Matt.
Speaker 2: How about that?
Speaker 3: I see a lot of future accountants and whatnot on
Speaker 3: that field.
Speaker 2: You and Terry are just being mean out here. I'm
Speaker 2: trying to be nice. I'm trying to be popped.
Speaker 3: I wish I'm the best. They've been good to us.
Speaker 2: They sure have, Matt. Before we get into the four
Speaker 2: o'clock hour, we're gonna do a fun thing called the
Speaker 2: Campies that our buddies. Our buddies, Max Starks and Mike
Speaker 2: Pursuda came up with, but I do to have a
Speaker 2: little fantasy football focus with you here for a few minutes.
Speaker 3: Yes, all right.
Speaker 2: Basically, NFL dot Com did ideal top two picks for
Speaker 2: each draft slot in a twelve team league.
Speaker 3: I haven't given this part much thought, so I take
Speaker 3: this guy? Who do I get?
Speaker 2: So here's how they said, if you're in a twelve
Speaker 2: team league, the best scenario you could have. I want
Speaker 2: to run these past you, and you can say I'd
Speaker 2: take it or I'd go fish. Sound.
Speaker 3: I think the first two picks are basically the same.
Speaker 3: It's Jamiir or Bijon, and then what do you do
Speaker 3: with the next one?
Speaker 2: So for first pick, they go Jamiir Gibbs first round,
Speaker 2: first pick, Malik Neighbors second round, twelfth pick, take it
Speaker 2: or go fish.
Speaker 3: I think he's healthy. He was so far down the
Speaker 3: list because he looked terrible in the preseason in the offseason,
Speaker 3: but by all accounts he's a full go and rate
Speaker 3: a rock. I think I take it. It seems a
Speaker 3: little rich for Neighbors, but I'm cool with it.
Speaker 2: Picking second b Jon Robinson first round, second overall. Jeremiah
Speaker 2: loves second round eleventh pick.
Speaker 3: No, but this isn't I'm go fish, but this is
Speaker 3: just because he came out this morning as a high
Speaker 3: ankle spran. So that's probably you know, the author probably
Speaker 3: didn't know that, which they linger man. I hate for
Speaker 3: any rough fantasy player.
Speaker 2: Picking third Puka Nakua in the first round, third overall
Speaker 2: from the Rams, second round, tenth pick Drake London.
Speaker 3: Two wide receivers, Yes, but I would never go wide
Speaker 3: receiver wide.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't either, So that's my only problem saying I
Speaker 2: like both of those players from a fantasy football perspective.
Speaker 3: So like my main league, we pull cards and if
Speaker 3: you get the ace, you get to pick wherever you
Speaker 3: want from one to twelve.
Speaker 2: Nice.
Speaker 3: So like if you told me right now, I don't
Speaker 3: know where I pick, but it might have to give
Speaker 3: up my first and second pick for London and the coup,
Speaker 3: I would say.
Speaker 2: No, if you pulled that card, where would you I
Speaker 2: don't know yet. I might pick second because.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't pick first. I'd take second. I would take.
Speaker 2: Second because you'll get one of those guys and then
Speaker 2: you'll get a pick earlier in the second round.
Speaker 3: But I also like to do as the draft goes on.
Speaker 3: If you pick like second or third, or eleventh or tenth,
Speaker 3: and the first guy already took a quarterback, you know
Speaker 3: you don't have to take it going into him. You
Speaker 3: can wait and get one coming out, you know, things
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 2: So picking fourth, first round, fourth pick, Christian McCaffrey, fourth overall.
Speaker 3: That's where he's going. I just don't know that I
Speaker 3: want the fourth pack. I don't want the fourth pick.
Speaker 3: I don't think definitely I take Jamar Chase over him. Actually,
Speaker 3: I don't want the fifth pick either.
Speaker 2: Second round, ninth pick, George Pickens, I'm going no, I'm
Speaker 2: going fish.
Speaker 3: No. I would not give my first two picks for.
Speaker 2: That, picking fifth overall, Jackson Smith and Jigba fifth overall,
Speaker 2: Zay Flowers second round, eighth.
Speaker 3: Pick two rich for z For me, I think he's
Speaker 3: more of a third.
Speaker 2: And again, two wide receives, don't I gotta come away
Speaker 2: with with something more than two wide receivers.
Speaker 3: There's only like sixteen to eighteen running backs. I'm real
Speaker 3: comfortable to start, and I don't want to start with
Speaker 3: zero of them.
Speaker 2: And again that's where I'm at. Whereas like I have
Speaker 2: to take a running back at least with one of
Speaker 2: my first two picks, although Matt this would be hard
Speaker 2: to say no to. First round on sixth pick Jamar Chase.
Speaker 3: I don't think he ever was in the last of six.
Speaker 3: He might be.
Speaker 2: Third, but anyway, Second round, seventh pick Josh Allen, I
Speaker 2: think I would take that.
Speaker 3: That's pretty strong.
Speaker 2: You don't get a running back, but man, you get
Speaker 2: maybe the best wide receiver and the best quarterback.
Speaker 3: I would go fish just because I don't want to
Speaker 3: pay the Allen price, but I don't want to play
Speaker 3: against that team. I mean, those two could combine for
Speaker 3: sixty points a week.
Speaker 2: You don't even like Allen there and like the back half.
Speaker 3: That's where he's worth. I'm going to take one in
Speaker 3: the eleventh rag as you know.
Speaker 2: Picking seventh. First round seventh pick Jonathan Taylor. Second round
Speaker 2: sixth pick Ashton Genty.
Speaker 3: That's pretty solid.
Speaker 2: It's pretty solid. Yeah, yeah, I might take that instead
Speaker 2: of going.
Speaker 3: Pretty strong starters. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Picking eighth, you'd.
Speaker 3: Still have plenty of receivers pick for throwing totally. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Third run on picking eighth Amon Ross Saint Brown. Second
Speaker 2: round fifth pick Rock Bowers.
Speaker 3: I was wondering where Bowers would end up in this exercise,
Speaker 3: Like I keep thinking, if I'm picking first or second,
Speaker 3: maybe I could get Bowers. At the end of the
Speaker 3: second I'm thinking that probably is Pie in the sky.
Speaker 2: He's going fifth pick of the second round here, so
Speaker 2: that would put him seventeenth. Overall.
Speaker 3: I'm still gonna go fish though, no running No running
Speaker 3: back in the first two picks. It's tough, yeah, because
Speaker 3: I mean I would maybe come back and get it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much always going fish if that's the scenario.
Speaker 3: It seems that way. I mean that Chase Allen one
Speaker 3: was kind of.
Speaker 2: That's the one I think that I would take, But
Speaker 2: the other ones, I'm definitely going fish on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, in the third round, you could get Loveland or
Speaker 3: McBride or another pretty strong tight end.
Speaker 2: Picking ninth first round, ninth pick Devon a Chain of
Speaker 2: the Miami Dolphins, second round, fourth pick Omarion Hampton of
Speaker 2: the Chargers. Two running backs not bad.
Speaker 3: I just don't think i'd take a Chan at nine.
Speaker 2: A little too high.
Speaker 3: He's gonna get such a workload and he's really really good.
Speaker 3: I just and rarely am I afraid of injuries. I'm
Speaker 3: kind of cocky that way, Like I gets hurt I'll
Speaker 3: find somebody else. I'm a good owner, but he's so
Speaker 3: little and he's on such a bad team. I just
Speaker 3: think he's gonna get the crap knocked out of him
Speaker 3: this year.
Speaker 2: Picking tenth Justin Jefferson, first round, tenth overall, Chase Brown
Speaker 2: round third pick.
Speaker 3: Yes, but I think I would have taken Hampton or
Speaker 3: Genty who went after Chase Brown. You know what I mean,
Speaker 3: Like if I had, if you gave me Justin Jefferson
Speaker 3: in choice of running backs, I just don't think i'd
Speaker 3: take Brown. But Jefferson at ten, I know that's where
Speaker 3: he's going.
Speaker 2: And you know you'll get a solid running back.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, five picks later. The more we talk through this,
Speaker 3: I might I think I want to pick at the
Speaker 3: top of the first round, but the back half here
Speaker 3: is better than the middle. The middle I didn't like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, picking eleventh James Cook Buffalo Bills, and then second round,
Speaker 2: second pick ceed Lamb.
Speaker 3: I like that.
Speaker 2: Take that for first Yeah, James Cook and Ceedee Lamb. Yes,
Speaker 2: and then last but certainly not least, first round twelfth
Speaker 2: overall A J. Brown and then Derrick Henry. No.
Speaker 3: I don't trust Brown. I think Brown is near the end,
Speaker 3: he's really low on my list.
Speaker 2: I am, I can. I would be shocked if his
Speaker 2: his ADP is high as twelve round.
Speaker 3: I can't believe he's going to be shocked if that
Speaker 3: were the case. Ye, Like, I'd take London ahead of him,
Speaker 3: and he went like ten picks later in.
Speaker 2: This one, London calling to the far away towns.
Speaker 3: That Lamb and Cook ones kind of.
Speaker 2: That's real good.
Speaker 3: That my favorite of all of them. Matt.
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