1
00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:08,799
Speaker 1: Be around with the NFL Podcast. Is having a Mojoe moment. Oh,

2
00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:12,840
Speaker 1: we're happening a moment all right, Yeah, it's playoff fever

3
00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:19,840
Speaker 1: around the NFL Podcast. Welcome to the show, the flagship program.

4
00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,599
Speaker 1: The regular season is in the book Stan Hansas here

5
00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:30,200
Speaker 1: with Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler. Boys. The playoffs are set,

6
00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:35,440
Speaker 1: and we are in the afterglow of one of the

7
00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:39,400
Speaker 1: wildest Sunday night football games I can ever remember, true

8
00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,360
Speaker 1: classic that we're gonna get into in just minutes between

9
00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:47,280
Speaker 1: the Chargers and the playoff bound Raiders. Can you believe it?

10
00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:51,640
Speaker 1: How's everybody doing? I don't know. I don't know what

11
00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:53,800
Speaker 1: else to talk about other than that game since it

12
00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,840
Speaker 1: just ended. But I did notice how there was some

13
00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:00,320
Speaker 1: like some haters kind of coming out about Week eighteen.

14
00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,800
Speaker 1: They're like, oh, Week eighteens come and they've just served us,

15
00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,760
Speaker 1: like the Eagles backups here on on Saturday night, as

16
00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:09,120
Speaker 1: if that didn't happen in every week seventeen anyways. But

17
00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,640
Speaker 1: this week eighteen Sunday delivered, I mean in a in

18
00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,600
Speaker 1: a way that I could not have possibly foreseen. Well,

19
00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,240
Speaker 1: there were like a string of epic performances and epic

20
00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,600
Speaker 1: games today and um, I mean that Sunday night game,

21
00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,319
Speaker 1: which I believe was roughly five and a half hours long,

22
00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:27,360
Speaker 1: that contest um totally delivered. I honestly it made me.

23
00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:28,880
Speaker 1: We'll get into it, but it made me think for

24
00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:34,360
Speaker 1: just a minute of West's incredible speech about the meaningless

25
00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,480
Speaker 1: of sports and trying to find meaning in it and

26
00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,200
Speaker 1: reconciling that. And it's just something about the way this

27
00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,039
Speaker 1: regular season, which has been an up and down affair,

28
00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:49,000
Speaker 1: ended any most improbable insane game. Um, it was like gripping.

29
00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,200
Speaker 1: It was gripping. It was football at its best. So

30
00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,160
Speaker 1: no cynicism for me on the fact that it also

31
00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,120
Speaker 1: was about five and a half hours long. I like

32
00:01:56,240 --> 00:02:00,200
Speaker 1: was walking around my garage. But obviously it was a

33
00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,040
Speaker 1: great It was a great game, and there were a

34
00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,760
Speaker 1: couple other games will today that we're insane. Also, you

35
00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,120
Speaker 1: felt that lock slipping through your fingers. I'm sure you

36
00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,040
Speaker 1: were struggling with that a little bit. You did get

37
00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:13,519
Speaker 1: it done, kept your season alive with the Raiders, I'm

38
00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:17,680
Speaker 1: sure as a fifteen point fourth quarter lead disappeared that

39
00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,040
Speaker 1: that garage or is some walls that were in danger,

40
00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,520
Speaker 1: and some controls and some some texts that we got.

41
00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,040
Speaker 1: Seemed like the anger was building, But it looks it

42
00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,400
Speaker 1: all worked out well. I mean, you know, counter to that,

43
00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,960
Speaker 1: as you could feel the Chargers coming back and inching

44
00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,960
Speaker 1: closer to the potential world of a tie that would

45
00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,639
Speaker 1: have caused utter chaos in Pittsburgh. So you know, there

46
00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:42,560
Speaker 1: were a lot of little mini victories, um, that were possible. Here,

47
00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:44,960
Speaker 1: a little mini victories on the on the front. All right,

48
00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:49,560
Speaker 1: let's dig into it, um real quick. Saturday, it's gonna

49
00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:54,639
Speaker 1: be Raiders Bengals four thirty Eastern on NBC. Then, oh,

50
00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:58,000
Speaker 1: we knew it was coming. It was inevitable. Patriots Bills

51
00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:04,160
Speaker 1: rematch Saturday night game on CBS. Sunday, Eagles Bucks at

52
00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:10,400
Speaker 1: one pm Eastern, and then Niners Cowboys four thirty Eastern

53
00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:15,560
Speaker 1: on CBS Sunday. The Steelers, who are somehow in the playoffs, Uh,

54
00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:19,200
Speaker 1: they get the Chiefs on Sunday Night Football. And then

55
00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,200
Speaker 1: first ever, unless Greg can tell me it happened in

56
00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:29,560
Speaker 1: a Monday Wild Card playoff game Cardinals rams from Sophie,

57
00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,359
Speaker 1: WHOA should we go to that game? All right, let's

58
00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,239
Speaker 1: let's not get ahead of ourselves about west of this

59
00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:39,080
Speaker 1: um coming back. The first Saturday afternoon game is in Cincinnati.

60
00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,280
Speaker 1: But you know what it's not. It's not the Red

61
00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,880
Speaker 1: Rocket starting this one. It's Joe Burrow. This is like

62
00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,480
Speaker 1: West of Us for adults. Well, we've been getting, yeah,

63
00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:49,680
Speaker 1: we've been getting a lot of West of This type tweets.

64
00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:51,320
Speaker 1: But this is not the West of Us that West

65
00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,640
Speaker 1: used to talk about, because West of Us wasn't the

66
00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:58,160
Speaker 1: Bengals just entering the playoffs and getting ready by the game.

67
00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,480
Speaker 1: West of Us was a celebration of they're one and

68
00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:04,560
Speaker 1: done that everyone saw coming, and it was always celebrated

69
00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,080
Speaker 1: as the early kickoff game on Saturday. Now it is

70
00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,840
Speaker 1: still the early kickoff game, but this feels different. Now,

71
00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,640
Speaker 1: that's what said the same. Their heavy favorites. Hopefully they

72
00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:19,360
Speaker 1: get it on. I can't believe no Colts, no Chargers.

73
00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:24,040
Speaker 1: We got the Raiders and the Steelers. All right, let's

74
00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:30,919
Speaker 1: dig in, starting with yes, an instant classic from Vegas.

75
00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,839
Speaker 1: Two seconds on the clock and Daniel Carlson is on

76
00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,440
Speaker 1: to put a little frosting on the cake, a little

77
00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:50,120
Speaker 1: forty seven yard Jeff Pomp puts such a Dadayah Purger

78
00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,640
Speaker 1: Brent Musburger with the called Brent Musburger is like a

79
00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:02,359
Speaker 1: hundred and forty years old old. That man was fully alive.

80
00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:07,440
Speaker 1: With that call, Daniel Carlson capped a wonderful night for

81
00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,400
Speaker 1: the Kicker. He has got his own booth in the

82
00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:13,120
Speaker 1: Kicker Clubs to night with his fifth field goal the

83
00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,960
Speaker 1: difference in the thirty thirty two overtime win for the

84
00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,680
Speaker 1: Raiders over the Chargers. Who and I know people are

85
00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,080
Speaker 1: gonna say, oh, the Charger's gonna charge her, And they

86
00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:23,880
Speaker 1: did it again. They blew it, And yes, in a

87
00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:25,680
Speaker 1: way they did because I thought they were the better

88
00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,839
Speaker 1: team to set up well for them to advance. But

89
00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,800
Speaker 1: the fight they showed with those fifteen unanswered points in

90
00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:35,440
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, that is something I'll remember, including that

91
00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:40,240
Speaker 1: drive at the end of regulation. Anyway, Raiders events, as

92
00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,440
Speaker 1: I said, they move on. But this is a game

93
00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:47,240
Speaker 1: that has so many levels and aspects to it. Greg,

94
00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,200
Speaker 1: what what kind of jumped out to you the most

95
00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,279
Speaker 1: when you kind of reflect upon it in about forty

96
00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,800
Speaker 1: five minutes after the kick went through the uprights, Well,

97
00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,320
Speaker 1: I I think let's hit the time out at the

98
00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:57,960
Speaker 1: end of the game first, just because I feel like,

99
00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,359
Speaker 1: because it's the last thing that ends up in the conversation. Obviously,

100
00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,040
Speaker 1: you mentioned like the Herbert performance in the comeback and

101
00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,520
Speaker 1: some of those throws were like that was more exciting

102
00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,479
Speaker 1: to me. But the fact that Brandon Staley took a

103
00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:14,160
Speaker 1: time out on third and four with what was it

104
00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,920
Speaker 1: thirty eight seconds left, to me was kind of like

105
00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,599
Speaker 1: a nothing burger. And I think this is a case

106
00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:24,280
Speaker 1: where like the announcers of the game, Alan Chris, We're

107
00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,479
Speaker 1: getting so excited about the tie. Twitter is getting so

108
00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,360
Speaker 1: excited about the tie that they like led everyone in

109
00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,520
Speaker 1: this weird wrong direction. That was in some way saying

110
00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,480
Speaker 1: like the Raiders were laying down at that moment. The

111
00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,599
Speaker 1: Raiders ran for seven yards on the previous play, and

112
00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:40,839
Speaker 1: the Raiders at that point, we're not gonna throw the

113
00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:42,840
Speaker 1: ball again. That was that was obvious. They were gonna

114
00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:44,880
Speaker 1: run the ball and if they got close enough, you know,

115
00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,839
Speaker 1: they presumably would kick a field goal to try to

116
00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:51,159
Speaker 1: win it. When Staley called that time out, he took

117
00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,120
Speaker 1: two lightweight guys off the field that were struggling and

118
00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,960
Speaker 1: run defense, and he put his run defense, you know,

119
00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:58,719
Speaker 1: two guys who are better in run defense on the

120
00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,960
Speaker 1: field because he just gave up seven yards. This is

121
00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,599
Speaker 1: a terrible run defense. It's been the story of this

122
00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,919
Speaker 1: Chargers defensive season. Like the fact that they lost in

123
00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,600
Speaker 1: the fourth downs and time outs like distract from the

124
00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:11,640
Speaker 1: fact that he is a defensive coach and his defense

125
00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,840
Speaker 1: stunk in a big spot like that, when basically I

126
00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,240
Speaker 1: think the Raiders would have been okay going to a

127
00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,440
Speaker 1: tie because they were they were just gonna run it,

128
00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,240
Speaker 1: kind of like um our guy Sean McVeigh did at

129
00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,440
Speaker 1: the end of the game, and if it didn't work,

130
00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,040
Speaker 1: then they either punt or or they kick along field goal.

131
00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,560
Speaker 1: Staley wants to get a better guys out on the field,

132
00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,400
Speaker 1: and they still couldn't stop it. They knew the run

133
00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,000
Speaker 1: was coming. Josh Jacobs, who was great in this game,

134
00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,320
Speaker 1: picks up ten yards and they kicked the game winning

135
00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,480
Speaker 1: field goal, and they made this big deal about the

136
00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,640
Speaker 1: time out, and that to me was just it was strange.

137
00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,400
Speaker 1: It was like acting like the Raiders were not trying

138
00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,320
Speaker 1: in that situation. What they were trying to do was

139
00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,560
Speaker 1: just run the ball, and they showed him that drive

140
00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,000
Speaker 1: like they were gonna be able to do it and

141
00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,760
Speaker 1: do it well. And this Chargers defense like let them

142
00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,680
Speaker 1: down one final time. Well, Derek Carr said after the

143
00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,400
Speaker 1: game that they you know, their intention was to win

144
00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,040
Speaker 1: um And you know, I kind of don't really care

145
00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,520
Speaker 1: what anyone says, But do you think that there's a

146
00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,840
Speaker 1: different level of urgency if a tie would have led

147
00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,480
Speaker 1: to both of them making the playoffs? That the Raiders

148
00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,240
Speaker 1: aren't pushing that hard to get a field goal. If

149
00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,360
Speaker 1: but they're running the ball, what what what changes either

150
00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,560
Speaker 1: way they're running the ball. I think you're the game

151
00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:24,239
Speaker 1: was different because of the tie situation in the sense

152
00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,840
Speaker 1: that the Raiders didn't have a huge motivation to throw there.

153
00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,800
Speaker 1: And let's let's say that what would have changed. Let's

154
00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,760
Speaker 1: say that that that Staley does not call the time out,

155
00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:38,080
Speaker 1: the Raiders continue to run the ball, time expires, both

156
00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,480
Speaker 1: teams make the playoffs. Do you think that you don't

157
00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,080
Speaker 1: think that would have been a possibility there? I do.

158
00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,240
Speaker 1: I just think, wait, they would But what I'm saying

159
00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,360
Speaker 1: is they would have run the ball and either I

160
00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:49,240
Speaker 1: don't know what would have happened there, But let's say

161
00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,800
Speaker 1: they run the same play and it gains ten yards,

162
00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:55,080
Speaker 1: they then they kick a field goal either way. The point,

163
00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,760
Speaker 1: and Staley said it after the game, was he was

164
00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,000
Speaker 1: just trying to stop the run to make it as

165
00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,800
Speaker 1: on a field goal as possible. He called the time

166
00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,960
Speaker 1: out not like early, and and the timing of it

167
00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,640
Speaker 1: is what gives it away that he obviously was just

168
00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,679
Speaker 1: doing that. He didn't call it with forty seconds left

169
00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:12,760
Speaker 1: on the play. He called it with four seconds left.

170
00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,920
Speaker 1: You know, he wasn't trying to save time necessarily. He

171
00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,120
Speaker 1: was just trying to like stop them from running. And

172
00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,440
Speaker 1: he looked and he saw formation that he didn't like,

173
00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,000
Speaker 1: and they didn't stop the run. I I agree with you.

174
00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,040
Speaker 1: And yet Staley said after the game, Yeah, that was

175
00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:29,040
Speaker 1: there was no there was no other um explanation other

176
00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:30,760
Speaker 1: than what you're saying, Gregg. He just wanted to have

177
00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:32,760
Speaker 1: a better defensive stop you in it on the field

178
00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,400
Speaker 1: because he just saw them gave up seven yards like

179
00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,440
Speaker 1: on a play where like they should not be giving

180
00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,320
Speaker 1: up seven yards. And that's what it comes down to,

181
00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:43,280
Speaker 1: I think, which is this game probably ends in a tie.

182
00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,240
Speaker 1: And that poor dude, the Steelers fan at the stadium,

183
00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,640
Speaker 1: he is he's like dead in the middle of the

184
00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,520
Speaker 1: aisle right now. If all they have to do is

185
00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,400
Speaker 1: stop the run there and I think the Raiders are

186
00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,320
Speaker 1: gonna play that very conservative and they're gonna make it

187
00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,280
Speaker 1: look like they tried, but hey, you know that it

188
00:09:58,360 --> 00:09:59,439
Speaker 1: is what it is. And I think it would have

189
00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,800
Speaker 1: been a mess of story if the Raiders just ran

190
00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,200
Speaker 1: the clock out without kneeling. And I think it could

191
00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,760
Speaker 1: have happened if the Chargers could have just gotten to stop.

192
00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:10,280
Speaker 1: But you know, I think it didn't work out that way,

193
00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:11,800
Speaker 1: and Carlson made the kick, and I think it was

194
00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,600
Speaker 1: the best for everyone involved ultimately, not the Chargers obviously,

195
00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,319
Speaker 1: but in the best interrance of football. I don't think

196
00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,560
Speaker 1: a tie where nobody was really trying at the end

197
00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:21,800
Speaker 1: would have been a great way for the season to end.

198
00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,520
Speaker 1: I like the way it ended, and um I thought.

199
00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,000
Speaker 1: I thought Derek Carr, who did not have a very

200
00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,320
Speaker 1: good game overall, made that huge money throw that set

201
00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,280
Speaker 1: up those final runs that led to the game winning

202
00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,920
Speaker 1: field goal. So he gets a little measure of revenge

203
00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:41,000
Speaker 1: against Joey Bosa and the Chargers. Bosa who's trashed him

204
00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:44,040
Speaker 1: um in the past for not being a money clutch player,

205
00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,120
Speaker 1: and maybe he wasn't this game, but he delivered that

206
00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:49,680
Speaker 1: big throw when necessary, And I I have to say,

207
00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,840
Speaker 1: in all my years like watching football. Certainly in my

208
00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:56,400
Speaker 1: years doing this podcast with you guys, I I can't

209
00:10:56,440 --> 00:11:00,320
Speaker 1: remember another drive like the Chargers game time drive in

210
00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:05,560
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. Nineteen plays, nineteen plays, eighty three yards,

211
00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:10,440
Speaker 1: the touchdown at the gun um. It covered about two

212
00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,200
Speaker 1: minutes in five seconds, about of game time, but about

213
00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:17,200
Speaker 1: twenty minutes of real time. It featured a conversion of

214
00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:21,600
Speaker 1: fourth and ten, fourth and ten, third and ten, fourth

215
00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,280
Speaker 1: and ten, and then the touchdown when they had one

216
00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,400
Speaker 1: shot at the end zone or uh and they and

217
00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,120
Speaker 1: they stuck it in there, Herbert making big throw after

218
00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,360
Speaker 1: big throw after big throw. I'll never forget that drive.

219
00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,480
Speaker 1: And that's why I like the Chargers fans that have

220
00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:36,800
Speaker 1: been right or die with that team no matter what

221
00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:40,080
Speaker 1: city they play in, are hurting again tonight. But men,

222
00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,760
Speaker 1: they didn't. It looked like about midway through the fourth

223
00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,079
Speaker 1: quarter that it was a classic Chargers gonna charge or meltdown.

224
00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,120
Speaker 1: But what they showed in this game was how it

225
00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,360
Speaker 1: is different and they're not there yet, but with that dude,

226
00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,480
Speaker 1: anything is possible. So I think it's a bitter sweet

227
00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,840
Speaker 1: um night for Chargers fans who once again you're reminded

228
00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,360
Speaker 1: how special that guy is behind center. And a credit

229
00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,520
Speaker 1: to the whole team, because I think Collins were nailed it.

230
00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,120
Speaker 1: Those guys were gassed, and I think they caught some

231
00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,880
Speaker 1: breaks with some time outs and some stoppages that even

232
00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:12,720
Speaker 1: gave him a chance to get into the end zone

233
00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,040
Speaker 1: there because they had nothing left and they weren't even

234
00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,560
Speaker 1: to midfield yet. Um, but that took some real guts

235
00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:20,560
Speaker 1: that drive that. So I have a lot of respect

236
00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,520
Speaker 1: for the Chargers and what they did tonight, and the

237
00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:26,199
Speaker 1: drive before was four team plays, like they were absolutely

238
00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,280
Speaker 1: winded by the time that thing ended. And it's I

239
00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,119
Speaker 1: think it's just one of those games that the complexion

240
00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,640
Speaker 1: of it shifted so many times and you come out

241
00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,240
Speaker 1: thinking like you can make a bunch of mistakes and

242
00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:37,920
Speaker 1: errors and get in your own way, but when you

243
00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:41,600
Speaker 1: have Justin Herbert, anything is possible. And the tie felt

244
00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,920
Speaker 1: or the the going into overtime felt inevitable once they

245
00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:46,520
Speaker 1: got going that way. But I mean, I do think

246
00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,160
Speaker 1: if you're a Chargers fan, you look back on a

247
00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,120
Speaker 1: lot of little what if moments like the Andre Roberts

248
00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:55,200
Speaker 1: botched punt return that just basically set the Raiders up

249
00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,480
Speaker 1: for a quick score. You know, when they I'm not

250
00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,959
Speaker 1: disagreeing with this call. Again, we discussed this issue a

251
00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,360
Speaker 1: thousand times, but they are stuffed on fourth and one

252
00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,440
Speaker 1: from their own eight teen yards in the third quarter.

253
00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,640
Speaker 1: I mean, the thing is, it's just like that's that's

254
00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,640
Speaker 1: who they are, that's their philosophy. I mean, justin Herbert

255
00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,360
Speaker 1: inside your own in a game that your season is

256
00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,440
Speaker 1: on the line, that I'm the last like math nerd personnelity.

257
00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,280
Speaker 1: But like it's like there were tweets showing that, like

258
00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,880
Speaker 1: over and over. The suggestion was you go for it.

259
00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,480
Speaker 1: I think from a just like a human angle, it's

260
00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,319
Speaker 1: like that it didn't it did it kind of it

261
00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,280
Speaker 1: was a pivotal because it's not showing a lot of

262
00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,840
Speaker 1: respect to the Raiders offense. The play call did not

263
00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:38,839
Speaker 1: work out. I mean, it just it's one of those

264
00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:40,800
Speaker 1: things you look back on. But that's who the Chargers are,

265
00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,480
Speaker 1: and Brandon Steely said that all season long, like this

266
00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:45,480
Speaker 1: is what we do. But they're not a good interior

267
00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,719
Speaker 1: running team and they weren't on that play. And like

268
00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,560
Speaker 1: Darius Philon, who got carded for the Raiders, made a

269
00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,040
Speaker 1: great play on that play. So you got to think

270
00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:56,720
Speaker 1: about like the strength of your team. I don't mind

271
00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:58,319
Speaker 1: going for it there. They ended up going six or

272
00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,800
Speaker 1: seven on fourth downbell lot of those we're in that

273
00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:07,000
Speaker 1: late desperation mode. There was also a right and well

274
00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,200
Speaker 1: one of them was fourth and two early that that

275
00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:12,880
Speaker 1: ated seven points to the to the score they would,

276
00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:14,839
Speaker 1: you know they would if they kicked the field goal there.

277
00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,440
Speaker 1: That kind of evens out. But it's not just like

278
00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:20,120
Speaker 1: Herbert hitting those throws is like the quality of those

279
00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,640
Speaker 1: throws were outrageous. The touchdown to tie it at the

280
00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,760
Speaker 1: buzzer at the last game of regulation was one of

281
00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:30,320
Speaker 1: the best throws of justin Herbert's life. He's, you know,

282
00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:34,240
Speaker 1: going to his He's going to his left and he

283
00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,680
Speaker 1: throws it down in a way when Mike Williams is

284
00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:41,520
Speaker 1: getting double covered, bracketed and man coverage, like that's impossible,

285
00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:45,200
Speaker 1: Like that was unreal throw. Rickie, can we hear because

286
00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:49,160
Speaker 1: I really, um my buddy, Matt Money Smith, um our

287
00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:53,160
Speaker 1: friend the voice of God for the A T N podcast,

288
00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:57,160
Speaker 1: I have to heal hear his call of the touchdown

289
00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:58,920
Speaker 1: at the end of regulation. It's the only time we're

290
00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,760
Speaker 1: gonna hear Money until next September in terms of calls.

291
00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:06,880
Speaker 1: But this one I'm sure it was worth it. Herbert

292
00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:10,320
Speaker 1: and the shotgun. Here is the season they rushed for.

293
00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:14,960
Speaker 1: Here comes Max Crosby, Herbert to the end zone. But

294
00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:25,080
Speaker 1: but st Chargers. Mike Williams, d J. I don't believe

295
00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:31,280
Speaker 1: what we have witnessed. Laugh or cry, Buddy, laugh or cry.

296
00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:36,400
Speaker 1: We are tied at nine. What a treat for NFL

297
00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:43,680
Speaker 1: fans everywhere except for one. Um. Mike Williams, by the way, kudos.

298
00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:45,600
Speaker 1: He's one of those guys that was tough as nails

299
00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,000
Speaker 1: and you know, just running those go routes, going up

300
00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:51,880
Speaker 1: and down the field. Uh, he's gonna sleep for three days. Uh.

301
00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:56,200
Speaker 1: Nearly made three one handed catches, including one that preceded

302
00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,240
Speaker 1: the game tying field goal in overtime. If he comes

303
00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:00,800
Speaker 1: down with any of these balls, a different game. But

304
00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,640
Speaker 1: then you could say, on the other side, between Derek

305
00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:09,200
Speaker 1: carrs um accuracy issues on downfield shots and some drops

306
00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,520
Speaker 1: on their side of the ball, it could have been

307
00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,640
Speaker 1: a very different game. So man, it was. It was

308
00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,800
Speaker 1: just the hell of a game. I'll never forget it. Yeah,

309
00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,720
Speaker 1: I think like Max Crosby won this game as much

310
00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:24,400
Speaker 1: as like a defensive end could because I think just

311
00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,560
Speaker 1: how many points the Chargers would have put up if

312
00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,840
Speaker 1: Crosby wasn't just destroyed. He by the way he entered

313
00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,000
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. According the next gens, that's like eight

314
00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:37,240
Speaker 1: pressures behind the season lead of pressures. I forget who

315
00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:38,520
Speaker 1: was that was in front of him, and he had

316
00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,160
Speaker 1: nine in that quarters. He ended up like winning that.

317
00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:44,320
Speaker 1: It was just like outrageous that the third and one

318
00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:46,800
Speaker 1: last like little point was like and this goes back

319
00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,440
Speaker 1: to the Charges run defense, so it's kind of a

320
00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,080
Speaker 1: full circle thing. The key playing the game, I thought

321
00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:55,560
Speaker 1: before those last couple of drives and was the third

322
00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:59,000
Speaker 1: and twenty three run that Jalen Richard had at the

323
00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:00,960
Speaker 1: end of the first half. The the Chargers are winning

324
00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,000
Speaker 1: by four there, and we're gonna get the ball back

325
00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,240
Speaker 1: with over a minute to go and put up more points.

326
00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,000
Speaker 1: And that ends up being like at least the seven

327
00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,520
Speaker 1: points swing. The Raiders go down and score a touchdown

328
00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,240
Speaker 1: because the Chargers can't stop a rushing play on third

329
00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:17,000
Speaker 1: and twenty three. That really changed the game. And uh

330
00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,119
Speaker 1: that that was like during a little segment where the

331
00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,000
Speaker 1: Chargers had one first down in five drives. So it's

332
00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,480
Speaker 1: like every every aspect of both of these teams played

333
00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,399
Speaker 1: a part in this game. And and that was the

334
00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:30,560
Speaker 1: longest third down run to get a first down of

335
00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,760
Speaker 1: the entire year by any team. And so it came

336
00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:36,240
Speaker 1: at the perfect moment. Have you remember it was the

337
00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:40,600
Speaker 1: game was over a too until they overturned the fourth

338
00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,640
Speaker 1: and sixth spot at you know, to give the Chargers

339
00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:45,280
Speaker 1: to play. It was that moment where I thought, oh,

340
00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,720
Speaker 1: maybe the Chargers will win this thing. And then and

341
00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,520
Speaker 1: let's close this game out by giving credit where credits

342
00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:56,960
Speaker 1: due to Rich Masaccia, to Derek Carr, to Josh Jacobs,

343
00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,760
Speaker 1: to Za Jones, that whole team that d fence the

344
00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:05,280
Speaker 1: offensive line. They finished ten and seven this year, and

345
00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:09,240
Speaker 1: when they lost forty eight nine at Kansas City, they

346
00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,199
Speaker 1: just seemed like they were done for. And then I

347
00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,479
Speaker 1: and I'll own up to it. I I wrote them

348
00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,919
Speaker 1: off multiple times, including a couple of days ago. They

349
00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,520
Speaker 1: were your rider Die team back in like some Week

350
00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:23,320
Speaker 1: four episode. I don't know if you remember this episode.

351
00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,280
Speaker 1: In the end, you were you were right, yeah, and

352
00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,960
Speaker 1: Eldad I liked, I like playing it this way, but like, uh,

353
00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,760
Speaker 1: they edged by the Browns, they edged by the Broncos,

354
00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:36,000
Speaker 1: they stunned the Colts in Indy and then play great

355
00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:39,359
Speaker 1: football and win this game. So it's it's all house

356
00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:41,120
Speaker 1: money now for the Raiders. And I know they're gonna

357
00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:45,040
Speaker 1: be a heavy underdog um next week, but it doesn't

358
00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:48,320
Speaker 1: matter this considering everything that this team went through this

359
00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:53,640
Speaker 1: year between Gruden and Rugs uh and having an interim

360
00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,800
Speaker 1: coaches dropped into out of nowhere to be able to

361
00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:00,359
Speaker 1: go on this run in December. In January, congratulate relations

362
00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,240
Speaker 1: to the Raiders and those fans and big year, big

363
00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:07,120
Speaker 1: year uh for Vegas football. Alright, in one little thing,

364
00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,520
Speaker 1: like I think, you know, our overall impression of Derek Carr,

365
00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:14,520
Speaker 1: the football community's overall impression has changed as he incrementally

366
00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,439
Speaker 1: gets hotter and hotter with each passing week. Why is

367
00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,520
Speaker 1: he looking more attractive to me than at any previous

368
00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,320
Speaker 1: time in his career. That's that's how we're buttoning up

369
00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:26,639
Speaker 1: that game. I say, maybe not the final note we

370
00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:28,520
Speaker 1: were looking for, but I just think that he's kind

371
00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:30,560
Speaker 1: of feeling, you know, he's in his zone. He's feeling

372
00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:34,080
Speaker 1: the calm. No wonder, Mark's not cynical, he's uh, he's

373
00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,280
Speaker 1: gonna be rewatching that Raiders, you know, postgame interview a

374
00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:43,239
Speaker 1: little later and get real comfortable. All right, let us

375
00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,639
Speaker 1: now move on through the rest of the FC. So

376
00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:48,639
Speaker 1: we're gonna hit all the A f C games and

377
00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,520
Speaker 1: then we're gonna move to the NFC. All right, Let's

378
00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:55,879
Speaker 1: move now to the biggest upset of the day. Oh Man,

379
00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,440
Speaker 1: come on, Colts. Fourth and goal for the Colts. Jackson

380
00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:03,200
Speaker 1: Will leads this game twenty three to three. They handed

381
00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:07,480
Speaker 1: to Jonathan Taylor. Jonathan Taylor, you didn't do it. He

382
00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:11,280
Speaker 1: did not get there, but Jackson has stuffed him again

383
00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:17,080
Speaker 1: at the one yard line. The bound goes go to

384
00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:22,960
Speaker 1: the Jaguars, who a little teaser move out of the

385
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,200
Speaker 1: basement of the power rankings. Who j even will take

386
00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,560
Speaker 1: their place to end the season. Frank f Angie with

387
00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:33,320
Speaker 1: the call w O k V. Trevor Lawrence captain his

388
00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,080
Speaker 1: best games of pro the beautiful recovery and TV pass

389
00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,280
Speaker 1: and the Jacksonville defense made that big goal line stop

390
00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,760
Speaker 1: to basically lock it up It. Colts gag their way

391
00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,320
Speaker 1: to infamy on Sunday, blowing their chance at the playoffs

392
00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:49,080
Speaker 1: and its stunning eleven lost to the Jaguars at the

393
00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:54,000
Speaker 1: Big Chlorine Tank. NFL rushing champion Jonathan Taylor held to

394
00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,080
Speaker 1: seventy seven yards. Carson Wentz turned the ball over twice,

395
00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,600
Speaker 1: leading to ten points, and in defaulted in all phases

396
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:04,119
Speaker 1: to the three and fourteen Jags. Greg this was an

397
00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:07,200
Speaker 1: outcome that can change the course of the entire organization

398
00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:13,879
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. It is just hard to believe because it

399
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,159
Speaker 1: wasn't like one of those games where it's just I

400
00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,639
Speaker 1: can't believe he made that play, or I can't believe

401
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,000
Speaker 1: they made that call, or even just I don't even

402
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,160
Speaker 1: think you can just say, or you know, Carson Wentz

403
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:25,959
Speaker 1: is a bum, like I get it. There was a

404
00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,360
Speaker 1: segment when I'm sure red zone was all over this

405
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,680
Speaker 1: game in the third quarter where Carson Wentz um did

406
00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:33,919
Speaker 1: not rise to the moment. But at that point they

407
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,480
Speaker 1: were already down by two touchdowns and Carson Wentz hadn't

408
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,080
Speaker 1: been that involved in that game in a negative way

409
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:43,000
Speaker 1: that the Jaguars just like looked better. And you mentioned

410
00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,080
Speaker 1: Terevor Lawrence playing his best game. He played a perfect

411
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,640
Speaker 1: first half. They kind of took the ball out of

412
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,920
Speaker 1: his hands in the second half, but when they needed

413
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,320
Speaker 1: just one play out of him, he made it that

414
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,679
Speaker 1: that scramble and throwing it up high to Marvin Jones,

415
00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 1: who had an awesome play. Uh, just a reminder of

416
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:05,440
Speaker 1: like how talented Lawrence is and his teammates let him

417
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,159
Speaker 1: down a few times today. They could have won this

418
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 1: game by about thirty. I was saying when I was

419
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,479
Speaker 1: watching this game, I was thinking, Oh my god, are

420
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 1: they gonna blow this because they should be winning by

421
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 1: about twenty five or thirty, but they didn't. Their defensive line,

422
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 1: offensive line, everyone just freaking can we can we catch

423
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 1: the ball? Can we catch? Can we catch the ball? That?

424
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,359
Speaker 1: I'm totally with you, Greg, This was there was nothing

425
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 1: flukey about the outcome. The Jaguars kicked the Colts butt

426
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,160
Speaker 1: in this game. And that's why Mark Frank right after

427
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 1: the game, do we have that, Ricky right after the game?

428
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 1: I never expect to be sitting here, you know, having this,

429
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,679
Speaker 1: having this moment right now, not like this. You know,

430
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,440
Speaker 1: we had a good week of practice, We had good

431
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 1: preparation all week long. UM felt good energy the whole week,

432
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:57,719
Speaker 1: every day, every meeting. UM, I felt like we had

433
00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 1: three good plans. I like the players were dialed in

434
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 1: and and we just didn't get it done today. You know,

435
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 1: we just didn't get it done coaching or playing. I mean, right, Mark,

436
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 1: he looks stunned, because there's no way you could have

437
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 1: predicted an Egg at this magnitude. Yeah, I mean, I

438
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 1: think it's a top five Cults loss of all time.

439
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:20,679
Speaker 1: I mean, I really do. And I mean I know

440
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 1: it wasn't in the playoffs per se, but it was

441
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 1: a total collapse. And maybe there were hints of it

442
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,439
Speaker 1: when they fell to the Raiders the way they did.

443
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,680
Speaker 1: Although we think a little differently about the Raiders right now,

444
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 1: but you know, I don't. I didn't put anything into

445
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 1: the fact that they hadn't won in Jacksonville, but it

446
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 1: was an utter no show, and I think it raised

447
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 1: It's like when you think about the Cults in general,

448
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 1: they had they had dominated in back to back wins

449
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,879
Speaker 1: over the Patriots and Cardinals. They seemed like one of

450
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 1: the more sure things in the a f C. But

451
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 1: it did hedge around the fact that you needed Jonathan

452
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 1: Taylor to be operating at m v P levels, you

453
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 1: needed Carson Wentz to keep the mistakes down. And today

454
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,639
Speaker 1: you got the worst version of those two scenarios. And

455
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 1: and I'm just stunned by how dominant Jacksonville wasn't makes

456
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 1: me think when they beat up the Bills that one week,

457
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 1: but that just felt like such an adoration because the

458
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,360
Speaker 1: offense in Jacksonville had been so bad. But you got

459
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence's best game at the perfect moment for them,

460
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 1: and they still come out with the number one overall pick. Yes,

461
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 1: because the Lions lost the lines upset one of the

462
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 1: packers keeps the Jags at number one, So it's it's

463
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:29,919
Speaker 1: literally it's a perfect day for the Jaguars in every

464
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 1: way it is. And it was the offensive line for

465
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 1: the Colds, I think more than anything that killed them,

466
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,199
Speaker 1: Like they couldn't push them in the running game. There

467
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 1: was a couple of short yard situations they couldn't get early.

468
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 1: You heard the fourth down call. Uh. And Eric Fisher

469
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 1: was just getting destroyed. Some sometimes the games about matchups,

470
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 1: and Josh Allen terrorized Eric Fisher in this first matchup

471
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 1: where they could not get anything done throwing the ball either,

472
00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,080
Speaker 1: and they're often was pretty bad that day too, and

473
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 1: Josh Allen just destroyed Eric Fisher, who was coming off

474
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: an injury today. Uh. And it's almost just short circuit

475
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,880
Speaker 1: of the entire offense, like when that happens, and it's

476
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,639
Speaker 1: like a Chargers game in Storm Norton getting dominated, like

477
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,919
Speaker 1: justin Herbert can overcome that somehow, when it's the Colts,

478
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 1: like Carson Wentz is not overcoming and the Cults committed

479
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,479
Speaker 1: the cardinal sin of any type of team in this

480
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 1: situation late in the season, when you need it, when

481
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 1: the other teams ready to go home for the winter,

482
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 1: you let you get off to a little bit of

483
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 1: a slow start, and you give the Jags a reason

484
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,199
Speaker 1: to you know, start to rally around each other and

485
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 1: start to get pumped up and get the crowd involved.

486
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 1: And by the end of the first quarter, you knew

487
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 1: this was gonna be a game. It was almost like

488
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 1: shades of Like I showed um the boys, Um we

489
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 1: got the Nintendo Classic, as I told you, which is

490
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 1: just going off in the house right now, and they've

491
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 1: been playing Mike Tyson's punch Out, Uh, that classic game.

492
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 1: So I I showed him like a clip of Mike

493
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,439
Speaker 1: Tyson's you know, all of his knockouts and gave him

494
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: on YouTube and gave him the rundown. And then right

495
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,199
Speaker 1: when they thought this was literally the most dangerous baddest

496
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 1: man alive. No one has been better. It's like, now

497
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 1: watch this, And I showed him the bust that Buster

498
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 1: Douglas fight, and they watched it like I felt like

499
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 1: I was watching the Tokyo Dome event live in my

500
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:22,239
Speaker 1: uncle Bob's house, like they were stunned. It's kind of

501
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,159
Speaker 1: like that, like where but Mike Tyson let Buster Douglas

502
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 1: start to believe and then that was it. And I

503
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 1: think that's what happened with the cults here, and I

504
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: just don't know what because Carson Wentz Obviously, it washes

505
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 1: away everything this season. It really does. It's that devastating,

506
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,640
Speaker 1: and it really anybody that doubted Carson Wentz now says, see,

507
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: I was right all along, and you kind of were.

508
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 1: But I think it's very important what you pointed out, Greg,

509
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 1: which is Carson Wentz didn't step up in this game,

510
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 1: but neither did anybody else on the team, not the

511
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:55,679
Speaker 1: offensive line, not the playmakers, not even the defense. With

512
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 1: Darius Leonard, who had a huge personal foul late in

513
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 1: the game. It just looks like this weird everyone falls

514
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 1: off and then it's like, who Who's that? Going back

515
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 1: to Frank Reich has to take heat to this team

516
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: was not ready and we saw it organizationally, it's it's everyone,

517
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: it's the whole thing. And then ultimately you look back

518
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: on the Carson Wentz trade with the Eagles and someone

519
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:20,439
Speaker 1: tweeted this out that the Cults get Carson Wentz, the

520
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 1: Eagles get a top twenty pick, a third round pick,

521
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: a hundred three million in cap relief. The Eagles made

522
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: the playoffs. The Cults are going home, right. I mean,

523
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 1: Wentz is under contract for a couple of years. I

524
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: just don't think he's going anywhere. And you know, of course,

525
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 1: I guess it shouldn't need to be said. I don't

526
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 1: think Frank Reich or Chris Baalory are going anywhere, so

527
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think it's like something that changes

528
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 1: their organization necessarily. It's just like an ultimate like what far?

529
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 1: How this? How this season ended? And that The thing

530
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: with Wentz is, yeah, he wasn't the reason they fell behind.

531
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 1: Like Trevor Lawrence was great on third downs in the

532
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 1: first drive. It really set the tone, like he made

533
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,479
Speaker 1: great plays to keep that drive going and they had

534
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 1: a long touchdown drive. But when they're trailing by two

535
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 1: touchdowns in the third quarter, and that was like the

536
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: moment you needed a franchise quarterback. He had one of

537
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 1: his worst quarters of the year, Like he just started

538
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 1: short circuiting and had that had that quarter, and it

539
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,959
Speaker 1: was just like and he had the long this is

540
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,239
Speaker 1: like and damn, this is our quarterback here that we

541
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: need right now. And it was just as it's becoming

542
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 1: the biggest story in the NFL and everyone's eyes are

543
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 1: on the games and and CBS wisely is cutting repeatedly

544
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 1: to the sideline and you see Wentz and it's like,

545
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: that does not look like a leader of men that's

546
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: about to save the day. And he wasn't. So it

547
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 1: wasn't all on him, but he certainly played a big

548
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 1: role in their collapse, losing back to back games, missing

549
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: the playoffs entirely, and like we talked about at the

550
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: top of the show, um you needed this. This changed everything.

551
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,719
Speaker 1: This pumped life into Week eighteen. We needed either Jacksonville

552
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: or Houston to do something crazy. Jacksonville did it, and

553
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: it opened a door for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Let's take

554
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: a break and then we'll hit that game. All right

555
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: here it is and over time to try to win it.

556
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: A thirty six yard effort for the magic of Boz.

557
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: The ball is down, the kickers on its way, That

558
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: kickers up there, Kickers guard, and the Pittsburgh Steelers have

559
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 1: defeated the Bollimore Ravens, and the Steelers are headed for

560
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: playoff Land. Wow, Bill Hill Goam spoke too soon. They're

561
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger and the Steelers aren't dead, They're undead. The

562
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: zombie Steelers aren't probably and possibly even alive after a

563
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,959
Speaker 1: win over the Ravens in Baltimore. That win, combined with

564
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: the cults stunning loss to the Jags and the game

565
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: on Sunday Night not ending in a tie, allows the

566
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger led Steelers to enter the playoffs for the I

567
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: don't need I meant to look this up. I'm gonna

568
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 1: say in his Hall of Fame career, it's probably closer

569
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: to like what ten twelve. Yes, it's probably closer to

570
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 1: al right, the stats research department is on it, buddy, Alright, Greg.

571
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: The rest of the a f C had a month

572
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: to deliver the head shot to kill the walking dead

573
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 1: out of Western Pennsylvania. They could not do it. I

574
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: think this is the fourteen playoff trip might be thirteen

575
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: if I counted digging there. That is just the outrageous.

576
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 1: I can't believe this team got the nine seven and one.

577
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 1: They ruined marks eight and one first, No, I guess what,

578
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: it's not going to happen now until so sorry to

579
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: everyone they ruined that they like this was just such

580
00:30:54,960 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 1: a one season Steelers game. Then could have thrown four interceptions.

581
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 1: He was rough was Tyler Tyler huntly made He's the mistake,

582
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: especially in the red zone, you know, late in that

583
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: game when they're up four to throw that interception and

584
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: where he just forced it in in a field goal

585
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: there really felt like it's probably gonna be enough. Um,

586
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: it was brutal and man it was. I just I'm impressed.

587
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: T J. Watt not only sets the SAT SAT record,

588
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: he does it in a huge spot, like in a

589
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 1: second and goal situation where you end up stopping the

590
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: Ravens from uh scoring a touchdown, Like that's that's the

591
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: way you want to do it. He tied the record

592
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: with Michael Strahan. Now so that is now they're together

593
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: in the record books. Uh. He had a sack immediately

594
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: as the game began, on a strip sack and then

595
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: they changed it and just ruled it a forced fumble.

596
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: Otherwise the record would be his. But I'm glad it

597
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: worked out the way it did, and now we just

598
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: needs somebody else. Maybe it'll be t J Wat him

599
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: self to break it out, right, but now stray hams

600
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: to share the record, and I like it. It's would

601
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: have been nice to him because that was pretty early

602
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: in the game. That was the second quarter. It would

603
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: have been nice for him to set it. But that

604
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: that was the thing about what and why. He'll probably

605
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: win defensive player there. The next play after that, he

606
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: made a great tipped pass to like, you know, break

607
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: up a pass from Huntley too. He was all over

608
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: the place. The rate the offense in this game was

609
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,959
Speaker 1: was pretty rough. I was watching this just thinking, man,

610
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: I don't want to see either one of these teams

611
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. You know. You know what was not

612
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: told that that initial sack was taken away, he thought.

613
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: And then he had a later one where he and

614
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: Cam Hayward combined on a half sack and that was

615
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 1: taken away because Cam Hayward had a hit to the head,

616
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: so you know, Razor's edge, but they but they what

617
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: was not informed? I thought? That was a little bit tough. Um,

618
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: I can't help but leave this season just thinking about

619
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: the Ravens and how well coached they were, how many

620
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: dark corners they got out of to get to this point.

621
00:32:58,040 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 1: It's such a season of what ifs, but it makes

622
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: it leaves me with with um more respect for that organization.

623
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: As my voice continues to disappear here. I mean, the

624
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: Ravens they ended this season, went on a six game

625
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: losing streak. They went they were eight and three and

626
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: they finished eight and nine. Of course, a lot of

627
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: that goes back to injuries, and they just five of

628
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: those were on the last play. I mean, they were

629
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 1: decimated and then lost a lot of close games in

630
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: the second after after winning a lot of close games

631
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: in the first half. But it's, like you know, it

632
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: is it's disappointing because we talked about the Saints in

633
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: the same way a couple of weeks ago, and the

634
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: Saints closed strong and found ways and the and the

635
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: Ravens just could not finish out these games. So just

636
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: a very frustrating loss for them and the and the Steelers. Listen,

637
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: first of all, Steelers fans, Damna Shack and everybody else

638
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: that had to be the most painful, strange Sunday night

639
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: football experience ever. I mean when they cut to that

640
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: fan the NBC cameras, the Steelers fan that's somehow in

641
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: Vegas and he saw what looked like the Raiders running

642
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: out the clock at midfield. Um, can you imagine the

643
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: what all those fans went through and for it to

644
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: end the way it did on a field goal. If

645
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: he misses the field goal, it's a tie and you

646
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,280
Speaker 1: missed the playoffs. That would have been an all timer

647
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: in terms of fan pay. Wasn't that wasn't all time?

648
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: Or just thinking about it that that puts the Steelers

649
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: into I mean, man, so they are gonna enter the

650
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: playoffs as underdogs because they're just there. Let's face it,

651
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 1: I'm not a very good team. But credit to Mike

652
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:30,240
Speaker 1: Tomlin and credit to t J watt Uh. I guess

653
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: you give Ben some credit because he did, uh have

654
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: the big fourth down conversion there that's set up the

655
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: field goal that allowed them to advance. He's running on

656
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 1: empty uh and yet now he's wandering like a walker

657
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: into the playoffs. It's pretty crazy to see that it's

658
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: the Steelers who come out of that division with the

659
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: Bengals because they still clearly felt like the fourth best

660
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: team for much of the year. Yeah, this is I

661
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: don't know if this season, you know, we needed a

662
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: seventh AFC team, But this is how it works works

663
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 1: out some years. Credit to Marky's Brown too, for dropping

664
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: that touchdown in the end zone, um late in the

665
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: game that was right in his breadbas He probably probably

666
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 1: would have won the game there talk about it. He's

667
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: almost like the embodiment of the raven season, starting so

668
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: well and promising and cratering in the end. So toughire

669
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: for the Ravens. They'll be back with Lamar Jackson assuming

670
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: his ankles better by week one next September. I don't know.

671
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 1: That was a weird injury the way it all played out,

672
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 1: But the Steelers move on. Who do the Steelers have again?

673
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: They got the Chiefs. The Chiefs chief debliterated them a

674
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Now, you know, these things have a

675
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 1: way of surprising you. But just the way it all

676
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: shuck out, I feel like we got the most lopsided

677
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 1: or less least interesting matchups possible. But but maybe maybe Raiders,

678
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: Bengal Steelers, Chiefs, Eagles, Bucks, Maybe those will surprise me.

679
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 1: Come on, do I have to watch a game of Nickelodeon,

680
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: the Cowboy game, the nine er Cowboy Game. Just give

681
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: me a heads up. Yes, I don't have to. I'm

682
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 1: making you, you know, Troy, Troy and Joe will have that.

683
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: All right? Good, so double check. It's great for the kids,

684
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: and Nate does a great job with it and everything,

685
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: but sting to make sure I wasn't getting banged as

686
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: an adult in a big spot there. Um, all right,

687
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: So the Steelers advance one more week of the Ben retirement,

688
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: one more weakest stories about Big Ben. The Zobbie Steelers

689
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 1: live on. I cannot believe it. What was that? Ben? Wow?

690
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: He even laughs like a zombie. Let's not assume one

691
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,240
Speaker 1: more week. I don't want to jinx that and suddenly

692
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: have two or three or four point alright, So the

693
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 1: Colts cannot take care of business against an a f

694
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: C South also ran. The Titans also had a chance

695
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 1: to uh win in a layup or so we thought

696
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 1: that turned out to be a challenge as well. Tannahill

697
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: looks laughed, comes back to the middle fires, Julio Joe

698
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: tsa Titans five like hoo for six Mike Keith with

699
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: the called w g f X. The Titans clinched the

700
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: top spot in the a f C the for the

701
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: first time in fourteen years, beating the Texans twenty five

702
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: behind Ryan Tannehill's career high tying four touchdown passes. That

703
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: was the twelfth win of the year for the Titans.

704
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: They locked up their second straight ANFC South title last week,

705
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: and they have the number one seed in a f

706
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 1: C for the third time since leaving Houston in ninety seven,

707
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: first time since two thousand eight. Talked about that on

708
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: Thursday they were one and done, so they're looking to

709
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: change that up this year. They also get the first

710
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: round by of course Mark This one looked like a

711
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: laugher at halftime, but Houston and Davis Mills made Tennessee

712
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 1: earn it in the end. Yeah, this this crew fishy

713
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,280
Speaker 1: for Tennessee. I mean, they had a twenty one nothing

714
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: lead at half, they had out gained the the Texans

715
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty eight yards to sixty seven. It

716
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: looked like Houston was simply not going to be able

717
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:07,240
Speaker 1: to operate on any level. And then in the second half,

718
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: Davis Mills, who I mean, I think We've seen these

719
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 1: halves from him where he suddenly gets hot. He's efficient,

720
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: he can throw the ball really well. Like just caught

721
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: total fire, Danny Ammondola caught total fire. I mean, this

722
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: is like a team built of like expatriots and and

723
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: people that he had been essentially been written them off.

724
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: And the Titans like or the Titans in the second

725
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: half open with three straight three and outs and you

726
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 1: really just starting to wonder if maybe they get caught

727
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: off guard here. And I thought that Tannehill made one

728
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: of the plays of the year and it was essentially

729
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: a third and five where they were just searching for

730
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: life and he got whacked by this guy, Jacob Martin.

731
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: It looked like he was gonna go down. He escapes

732
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: the sack and completed a thirty six yard pass to

733
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 1: Nick Westbrook Akina, which helps set up the touchdown their

734
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: only score of the second half, and it was just

735
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: enough to escape, so they did what they needed to do.

736
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 1: It grew a little too close for comfort, but they

737
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 1: are your number one seed. It's a very tighten win.

738
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: That play was awesome, by the way, I know, I

739
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:13,280
Speaker 1: thought it was just everything about Tannehill. Tis hunted away

740
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 1: over Texans have a chance. Yeah. That so that was

741
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 1: I agree, that was the turning point of that game.

742
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: And it is interesting to me that and this is

743
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 1: I'm not factoring in any overtime minutes and and would

744
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: love to be a grave digger on right now. Um

745
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: and one thousand, twenty minutes of game time for the

746
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: Titans and the regular season. Uh, it took until the

747
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,280
Speaker 1: one thousand and thirteenth minute for Julio Jones to score

748
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: a touchdown. But he was a difference maker here. I

749
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: think there were a couple of games justin where he

750
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: was a difference maker in my couple, I mean too.

751
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 1: But now now he gets two weeks. Uh. A J.

752
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: Brown gets two weeks, and most importantly, yeah, boy, Derek

753
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 1: Henry gets two weeks with Ryan Tannehill going into the

754
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: playoffs with confidence, where's your confidence level at one to

755
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: ten about deep playoff run? Probably like a nine ish.

756
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: I mean, just watching the other a f C teams today,

757
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 1: it's like the Chiefs are clearly one of the best teams,

758
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 1: and I think the Titans are the other best team.

759
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: And I think a Titans Chiefs en a f C

760
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:23,439
Speaker 1: Championship game rematch is somewhat inevitable at this point. Oh,

761
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,919
Speaker 1: I like the confidence. I'm I I that's a great

762
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: point because I thought the same thing kind of looking

763
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: at the a f C, where the Bills have been

764
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: a little wonky here late in the season, and that

765
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 1: you just wonder about what version of that team shows up.

766
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: The Bengals are obviously the X factor here, but you

767
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: don't look at them as some unstoppable superpower. So the Titans,

768
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 1: by virtue of having the advantage of a free pass

769
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: to the divisional playoffs and the home home game, Yeah,

770
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,399
Speaker 1: they're set up very well here in the conference that's

771
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: wide open, well in the way that Seeds fell, and

772
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 1: it's always dangerous to project out because either way they

773
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: play the lowest seed. But I think if I was

774
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: a Titans fan, I would like the idea that you

775
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: could avoid Kansas City and or Buffalo until the conference,

776
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: that that if the Seeds held, you get the Bengals,

777
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: and I think that's probably your best possible matchup. But

778
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 1: you also just you know, gave up a huge comeback

779
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 1: by Davis Mills in the second half. I mean, let's

780
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: not let's not beat our chest too much. I don't

781
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 1: see a free pass barring a massive upset by the

782
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: Raiders or Steelers. I don't see a free pass here

783
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: once you get to that. Finally, no free no free pass.

784
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 1: It's basically just there was a scenario. You know, it

785
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: could have felt different. I guess if that if you

786
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 1: somehow get stuck against the Chiefs, But since they one Saturday,

787
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: I guess you weren't worried about it, right if you had. Basically,

788
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: I think, like you know, the Patriots have a pretty

789
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:53,479
Speaker 1: good shot to upset the Bills with Belichick just being

790
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 1: such a great defensive mind there that that would be

791
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: a pretty good matchup for the Titans to the Bengals

792
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: have so much trouble on the offensive line. Can they

793
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:02,879
Speaker 1: stop the run? I feel like once you get into

794
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: the playoffs, the teams that can run and stop the

795
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 1: run have such an advantage. And the Titans have been

796
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 1: so good stopping to run lately, and they once they

797
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 1: get there Henry back. I mean, they've been running the

798
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: ball well without Derrick Henry, so once you get him back,

799
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 1: they should be able to continue pounding it. I think

800
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 1: the second half today was I mean, definitely discouraging, but

801
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: it also gives you a lot of good teaching points

802
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 1: for the next two weeks, so you don't go into

803
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: the playoffs too like overconfident or whatever. Yea, I hear

804
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 1: you on that. Wait what what's what are you laughing about? Mark?

805
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I just you know, I it concerned me

806
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: a little bit what happened in the second half, But

807
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 1: I'm with Grave Digger that like they are who they are,

808
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 1: They've been really resilient, and I don't there's no team

809
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: in the league that would be helped more heading in

810
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: the playoffs with a week off to get healthier. And

811
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 1: I would say, I would guess Grave Digger, and you

812
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 1: tell me if my hunch is correct. That all, like

813
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: the uh bozos like me and and tens of thousands

814
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: of other quote unquote analysts of the field who were

815
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,879
Speaker 1: in love with the Cults this season, they go down

816
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: in flames while you lock up the number one seeds.

817
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 1: So this feels like a pretty nice day for Titans Nation.

818
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: It was. I think Titans Twitter was like more excited

819
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: to see the Colts lose than they were to see

820
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 1: the Titans win, because everyone kind of expected the Titans

821
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: to beat the Texans, but nobody really expected the Jags

822
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: to beat the Colts when it's been it's been months

823
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 1: of people, you know, telling you Titans man that, like

824
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 1: the Cults are actually the better team here, and it's

825
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: like there is an aura of disrespect. I think that

826
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 1: fan base. You've won twelve games, you're the number one

827
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,280
Speaker 1: seeds in the Chiefs. I don't know, it's it's funny

828
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 1: like this is gonna sound like still trying to fight

829
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: a battle that's already lost now. But like two weeks ago,

830
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: that absolutely made sense and it wasn't. I don't know

831
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 1: what happened to the Cults, but I will tell you

832
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,760
Speaker 1: one thing. I did what I did do. I dipped

833
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: into the Cults subreddit just to see what was going on. Whoa, whoa.

834
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 1: Not not pleasant. So I'm sure the Titans, maybe tight

835
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 1: and Span did the same thing. But you don't. You don't.

836
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 1: You don't inter you don't interact in that situation. You

837
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 1: don't dare get into the uh the commentary and rub

838
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 1: In or anything, but you just if you want to

839
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 1: check it out. I sometimes like to lurk uh for

840
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 1: teams that I dislike or teams that are going through

841
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:23,399
Speaker 1: something very painful, and I thought that was interesting, say

842
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: is definitely in there. Like account. The Coults have seven

843
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: Pro bowlers and didn't make the playoffs. That's crazy, very crazy.

844
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 1: And the Titans are a team that says, hey, we uh,

845
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: we've been overlooked. Now is our time. So the stage

846
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,760
Speaker 1: is set. Good job for you by you, grave digger.

847
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: I'm sure the metrics are rolling in over on the

848
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 1: Titans Film Room podcast, nailed it. You got one coming up?

849
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: You got one coming up tonight or what tomorrow? We'll

850
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,839
Speaker 1: record tomorrow. Let's just get it up early. Okay, let's

851
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 1: take advantage of the fan excitement. You know, you're right,

852
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 1: You're right, the good stuff all right, there you go,

853
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 1: the Titans take care of business. Let's now move Uh.

854
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: And by the way, good for Davis Mills. He's fun

855
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: to watch. I don't know what, but nice little ballplayer.

856
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: I noticed um quickly on the Texans that that they're

857
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:20,720
Speaker 1: considering moving on from David Culley, according to our NFL

858
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 1: network guys, and they sort of hinted that if they

859
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: were moving on from David Culley, it would indicate that

860
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 1: they're like confident in getting the specific person that they want,

861
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: and it's Nick Cassario. So you could try to guess.

862
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels would be a logical one, have links he

863
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: was like in McDaniels wedding. But I don't know. You

864
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: never you never know. But it sounds like that that

865
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: the bad job is in here, that they have someone

866
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 1: that they want, which I remember like banging the drum

867
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: about that in August. It always felt like Cully was

868
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 1: set up to just be the patsy here, but for

869
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: to his credit, he didn't let the Texans become a

870
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: laughing stock. They really did battle once they got their

871
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 1: feet um on the ground in about October. So all right,

872
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 1: bad bad juju. If they fire Coulie, he's really done

873
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: a nice job for them. The contract unlike I mean,

874
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: it still would be a bad job and terrible um,

875
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 1: but unlike the players, the contracts are guaranteed, so that's

876
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:31,399
Speaker 1: an He got a five year contract, which is now

877
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: I'm confused, so and I know something. It's maybe standard

878
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 1: for these guys to get five years or something close

879
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: to it. But if you gave him a five year

880
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 1: deal and then he took that roster of nobody's and

881
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,919
Speaker 1: made them competitive week after week and made them get

882
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: better as the season got along, and then you fire them.

883
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: It's almost like the Texans don't have a clear plan

884
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,359
Speaker 1: what they want to do with their organization. I'm just

885
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: that's just like a theory that I'm percolating in my

886
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: brain that they might not know what the all they're doing.

887
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: I think you're connecting some dots there in a in

888
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 1: a wise way. All right, let's move to back to Saturday,

889
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 1: where the Chiefs were looking to give themselves a chance

890
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: to take that number one seat. It didn't work out,

891
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: of course, but they did their part, just barely. Lock

892
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: this up the balls and picked up by the chase,

893
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: take the office all again. Looks at midfield, go it's story.

894
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:28,839
Speaker 1: It's on, Nickboleton, Nickpole, what's the clinic? Damn side? Touch

895
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: down jans Our City on a defensive score. Melvin Ingram

896
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 1: knocked up ball out from Melvin Gordon the third and

897
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 1: it was picked up by Nick Bolton, the rookie linebacker.

898
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: Mitch Holt's with the called w D A F. What

899
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 1: a dramatic play. And I've been mixing up Melvin Gordon

900
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 1: and Melvin Ingram on the show for about five years now.

901
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: They finally met up in a dramatic moment. And it

902
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 1: did not work out well for the running back Melvin

903
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 1: at all. On a day when the offense was held

904
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: in check. It was once again the Chiefs defense that

905
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 1: stepped up for the a f C West Chance champs.

906
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 1: Melvin Ingram forced the Melvin Gordon fumble. Nick Bolton scooped

907
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: it up, took it to the house game swinging playin

908
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: for Kansas City. As I said at the time, it

909
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: moved the Chiefs into the number one spot in the

910
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 1: a f C. Titans took care of business Sunday took

911
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: it back. So the Chiefs the number two seed and

912
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:32,280
Speaker 1: they get a nice matchup there, as we've said, against

913
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 1: the Steelers on Sunday night. Now Mark News out of

914
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 1: Denver after the game. It was reported the next morning

915
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 1: that the Um Dick Fongio is out after three years

916
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: without a playoff trip. Uh and the Broncos. It seems

917
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: Mark are trapped in a time loop right now. Uh,

918
00:48:55,640 --> 00:49:00,040
Speaker 1: and they are looking for a coach. Yeah, and I

919
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: think it's you know for whoever Um is interested in

920
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: that job, and Um becomes an interview candidate. Like there

921
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 1: are questions, major questions around the quarterback situation. I mean,

922
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: in another world, maybe Las Vegas opens up to You've

923
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 1: got a quarterback there, and like Denver has a huge

924
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: problem to solve on that front. I don't know, you know,

925
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: I mean Vic Fongio. It's me. It's just the latest

926
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 1: example of like I love to have him as a coordinator,

927
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 1: but these teams that are built around like it's like

928
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: an impenetrable defense and not much else on offense, um

929
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: are just seemed doomed to me. That said, I mean,

930
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 1: like the Chiefs. They ran for like a hundred yards

931
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: on the Chiefs. That's the second time that's happened in

932
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 1: Kansas City in a couple of weeks now, and I

933
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: a little concerned about that. I'm little concerned about Tyreek

934
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: hills Hell, I mean his health going into next week.

935
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: But other than that, they're very explosive, and I think

936
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 1: we're looking at the Chiefs team that's going to be

937
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: very very tough, very tough out. Yeah they are. And

938
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: yet this was a bummer of a week. I think

939
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 1: they had a really bad week because as Hill got

940
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 1: her in warm ups, him and Kelsey haven't done anything

941
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: in the last two weeks. Combine kind of had the

942
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: ball force to them. Demon Williams, who's been really good,

943
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 1: was banged up in this game. Edwards a Laire is

944
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 1: out right now, and there cornerbacks are just playing like

945
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 1: this man. I guess they've been playing man coverage and

946
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 1: being that aggressive all season, but they've gotten roasted in

947
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,359
Speaker 1: the last two games. The only reason it didn't come

948
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: back to haunt him in this one is Drew Lock

949
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 1: just you know, couldn't connect on on a lot of

950
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 1: these passes, and the Broncos couldn't quite make them pay.

951
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,280
Speaker 1: But I think that could that could be a problem

952
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 1: in in some playoff matchups. And offensively, it was like

953
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 1: it was the story of their season basically wrapped into

954
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: one game. That the Chiefs only had seven drives in

955
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,760
Speaker 1: this game. Essentially they averaged ten plays to drive in those.

956
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 1: That's that's outrageous. They averaged ten plays to drive um

957
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 1: and so it's not like the Broncos were stopping them.

958
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 1: But it was just like endless seven year are throws

959
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 1: from Mahomes. So he had to throw a lot of

960
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 1: passes to get to where he was at and they

961
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,320
Speaker 1: ended up needing a defensive score to get it done. Listen,

962
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 1: the Chiefs win twelve games. They win their division, they

963
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,720
Speaker 1: very nearly get the number one seed. So on some level,

964
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: they did what we expected the Chiefs to do. But

965
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 1: I've never in the last you know, in the Mahomes era,

966
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 1: felt that there as vulnerable as they are this year,

967
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 1: just because you know, Patrick Mahomes averaging six yards per

968
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 1: attempt is something that's happened too often this season. And yeah,

969
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,800
Speaker 1: I think the injury the Tyreek Hill is as major

970
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: and it really puts a lot of pressure and guys

971
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:38,919
Speaker 1: like Nicole Hardman and Byron Pringle and Travis Kelsey uh

972
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 1: to step up and be special. So while I think

973
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 1: you know, they're set up to you know, get through

974
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 1: the first round, certainly I think they'll take care of

975
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 1: business there after that, I see it as being pretty

976
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 1: much a crap shoot, you know, in the a f C,

977
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,399
Speaker 1: because the Chiefs just they've shown us too much too

978
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: many times this year that they are capable of because

979
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 1: being very, very human and vulnerable on any given week.

980
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: So if they went on like a three game tear,

981
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm with you, like they've just not been

982
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: the old Chiefs in various ways all year. But I mean,

983
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 1: what if suddenly the last two years and won the

984
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 1: last the first time, so yeah, But at the same time,

985
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 1: like that would also be maybe a break from who

986
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:26,399
Speaker 1: they've been for most of the season, right. I thought

987
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,359
Speaker 1: Mohams had played his best three games of the year

988
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 1: in terms of a stretch and a row leading into

989
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 1: this game, and he played well. He played fine in

990
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 1: this game. It wasn't really on him. It was more

991
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,439
Speaker 1: of the offense around him. They did have a great

992
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: Sunday though, getting the Steelers instead of the Chargers. To me,

993
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: if you're if you're a Chiefs fan, that is a

994
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: pretty big difference. I mean, right, Mahomes my Homes said

995
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 1: after this game, we're still looking for that complete game,

996
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 1: and I laughed because he was removed from the Steelers

997
00:52:57,880 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: game a couple of weeks ago with a thirty to

998
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: three lead with thirteen minutes left, or thirty three to

999
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 1: three lead with thirteen It was like, well that wasn't

1000
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 1: a complete game. Why because Henny didn't you know that.

1001
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 1: It's like, well, we could have played a lot better

1002
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:10,760
Speaker 1: when we were un thirty three to three against the Steelers.

1003
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 1: That's probably what he felt. It's also the middle of January.

1004
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 1: It's like you're still looking for the best version of

1005
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 1: your team. It might not be shown up, it may

1006
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: have already happened. I hate the I hate the Andy

1007
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 1: Reid punts in opposing territories. It's two straight weeks where

1008
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 1: it could have hurt them. You know you've got Patrick

1009
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 1: Mahomes as your quarterback, you're punting on fourth and five

1010
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: from the forty is like back to back weeks. It's

1011
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 1: dealing me um. And I think with the Broncos as

1012
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: they begin their head coaching search, it just feels like

1013
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: you could hire whoever. But until they figure out this

1014
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 1: quarterback situation, we'll see what happens to soft. Ownership is

1015
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 1: a problem, like it's it's the biggest um question I

1016
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 1: think for any coach or anything going on. I mean,

1017
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 1: ownership right now is it's a legal fight. It's unclear

1018
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: who the owner will be for the next coach, but

1019
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 1: it's it's pretty clear that the current owner will not

1020
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,439
Speaker 1: be the owner for very long for this new coach,

1021
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: assuming a new coach gets hired. So that that to

1022
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: me is very problematic. But you're very hazardous. Like every

1023
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 1: everything you hear about where to go for a job,

1024
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,839
Speaker 1: like that's that's all bunch of red flags. Right there right,

1025
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:20,359
Speaker 1: Like if you how how attractive is this Broncos job.

1026
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,879
Speaker 1: They don't have a big time quarterback in place, they

1027
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 1: don't have stability and ownership, like they're not gonna be

1028
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 1: able to get a top candidate. It makes it makes

1029
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:31,879
Speaker 1: me wonder if they would have knocked off the chiefs here,

1030
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,800
Speaker 1: whether the Broncos would have thought about keeping Vic around

1031
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,760
Speaker 1: knowing that as well, because they're not they're not naive

1032
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 1: to the fact that this is going to be present

1033
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: a challenge for them. Um, but they didn't get the

1034
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 1: job done. It's the story of the Broncos in the

1035
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: fan Gio era, good defense, offense, making big mistakes and

1036
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: killing them. And I'll do it the last time, maybe

1037
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 1: on this show. With Vic now out the door no

1038
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: longer in a big chair, moment of silence for Vick,

1039
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 1: followed by this, fuh, we'll be right back. Takes the

1040
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 1: snap out of the gun, steps up in the pocket,

1041
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:21,439
Speaker 1: looks into the end zone, trying to fire it, gonna

1042
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 1: keep it himself. Finally throws it. Wait it is caught

1043
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 1: in the end zone. No, it is incomplete. Stefon Diggs,

1044
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 1: I don't think he got his feet down in the

1045
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,479
Speaker 1: end zone. Yeah, this is this is essentially a four

1046
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 1: point swings for discussion, it is a touchdown. They don't

1047
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: have to challenge. You can talk him into it. Go crazy,

1048
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 1: Orchard Park. Let's go Buffalo over the Jets in a

1049
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 1: game where the offense, once again for Buffalo, I just

1050
00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:00,720
Speaker 1: scratching your head a little bit. Never really came together

1051
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: against the Jets, who entered the game with the thirty

1052
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 1: second ranked defense in the league. But it didn't really

1053
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:16,280
Speaker 1: matter because the Bill's defense absolutely destroyed the Jets offense,

1054
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:20,800
Speaker 1: holding them to wait for it, fifty five yards total,

1055
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:24,800
Speaker 1: the lowest total in the history of the New York Jets, uh,

1056
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: fifty five yards of offense. They've somehow got ten points

1057
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 1: out fifty five yards. There was a fourth and uh

1058
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:34,800
Speaker 1: fourth down completion from Zach Wilson to Keenan Cole that

1059
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: went for forty yards for a touchdown, but that was

1060
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 1: about it. The Bills, so not very impressive by a

1061
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,240
Speaker 1: long shot on offense, but against a team like the Jets,

1062
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 1: you didn't need to be perfect. But that's too straight, Mark,

1063
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 1: that's two straight games going to the playoffs, where yes,

1064
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 1: you got the ws against the Falcons and the Jets.

1065
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 1: But the Bills attack wasn't in gear. Will they be

1066
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 1: able to flip the switch against better competition? Well, I

1067
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 1: don't seem to have the same faith in buff Low

1068
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 1: that um that you guys do, and so I view

1069
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 1: them as a team that's gonna get picked off in

1070
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 1: the a f C after maybe winning the game. But

1071
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like every time I looked up,

1072
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:14,280
Speaker 1: uh Zack Wilson was getting absolutely pummeled. He was sacked

1073
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: nine times. They were one for fourteen on third downs

1074
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 1: in my one. You know, this isn't a Jets conversation

1075
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 1: so much, but that lack of consistency on what they've

1076
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 1: been on offense is concerning. I mean, Buffalo, I think

1077
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 1: just played a discombobulated attack today. If anything, well, the

1078
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 1: Jets offense has been you know, better in the last

1079
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, certainly last week. So to hold the

1080
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 1: Jets to fifty three yards the lowest in franchise history,

1081
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: I mean, they get some credit for that. You know,

1082
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,439
Speaker 1: it's like no one, no one else has done done

1083
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 1: that to them. That is outrageous that the New York

1084
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 1: Jets have played a lot of football games to have

1085
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 1: this be the lowest amount in the history. And there

1086
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 1: was a guy the Jets, And it didn't help that

1087
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 1: the Jets of we're missing all their wide receivers mostly

1088
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 1: by the end of the game, there was this guy

1089
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 1: named Terik Black on the field, and man, I'm a

1090
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 1: pretty big Jets fan, like I know this roster, I

1091
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 1: have no idea who that guy is. And he actually

1092
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 1: made a catch and it was his first career catch

1093
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 1: and that was good for him. But you know, they missed.

1094
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 1: They missed between Um between the Elijah Moore, between Jamison Crowder,

1095
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: between Keenan cole Um the Tennessee wide receiver. It's late Davis.

1096
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 1: They were they were on the third left tackle and

1097
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 1: they were definitely short. They missed so many they were

1098
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 1: missing so many guys. So none of this was very predictable.

1099
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 1: Zack Wilson did end the year without an interception in

1100
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 1: his last five games. Go build around the kid, uh Now.

1101
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 1: The Bills good news. Also, for the second straight week

1102
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 1: a hundred and seventy yards rushing. Uh So that that

1103
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 1: helps as well. Obviously, Devin Singletary showed some signs of

1104
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 1: life late in the season, so the running game is

1105
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 1: in a good place for them. UM Josh Allen in

1106
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 1: the passing game, very up and down. Uh forty five

1107
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 1: attempts against Jets again, thirty second ranked in the league,

1108
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 1: worst events in the league statistically, and the average touch

1109
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 1: over five yards per tempt. So they got to clean

1110
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 1: it up. It wasn't very good weather. They're very windy,

1111
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 1: uh icy day. Uh so you gotta factor that in

1112
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:16,439
Speaker 1: as well, but take care of business game. But also

1113
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 1: I look at the Bills and I'm like, hmmm, are

1114
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 1: you going into the playoffs in a good in a

1115
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 1: good place? I'm not sure. I'm not sure right, but

1116
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 1: I think and we'll we'll have all week to talk

1117
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 1: about it. I know it's getting late because because Emica

1118
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 1: is coming into the room now, we're taking in the bedrooms.

1119
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 1: I think it's um um. I think they're happy to

1120
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 1: see the Patriots. I really do. Just I think just

1121
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 1: because it's like a familiar opponent that they just played

1122
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 1: their best game of the season against a few weeks ago.

1123
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 1: Not that that guarantees a victory, just that like they

1124
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 1: know this, they know this team there. I don't think

1125
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 1: they're gonna be um intimidated by it at all. It's

1126
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 1: a very familiar opponent's not like, oh, we gotta go

1127
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 1: do a bunch of work to like figure out the Patriots. Well,

1128
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 1: they know, they know they know Buffalo too, right, We'll

1129
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 1: see I think Saturday. My point is they're just like familiar.

1130
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 1: I think both teams will go into Mark before you

1131
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 1: get to anti Bills, because you're known to do this

1132
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 1: on the show. Let's check in with the Patriots did

1133
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 1: in their final game. They throw it out Myers Myers,

1134
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 1: and we're just gonna run around with it. Touchdown, Touchtown,

1135
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 1: miamis gloven intercepted the pitch in the end zone. It's

1136
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 1: a fable recovery, but it's a pitch. It's a touchdown.

1137
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 1: Gimme with the call. The Dolphins, man, they play well

1138
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 1: against the Patriots in their building, especially late in the season.

1139
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 1: It seems they take care of business thirty three to

1140
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 1: twenty four over the Pats. The Pats had to get

1141
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 1: a win and a Bill's loss to take the a

1142
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 1: f C East. Instead, they get spanked here by Miami,

1143
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 1: so they head into the postseason on a down note.

1144
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 1: At tenants seven. I believe they lost three or four

1145
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 1: Mark to end the season, so they end they entered

1146
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 1: the playoffs and a little bit of a funk too. Yeah,

1147
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 1: this was an uncharacteristic Patriots game. Sloppy. Uh. They allowed

1148
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 1: the Dolphins right out of the gate to go on

1149
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 1: a thirteen play drive that saw two ago seven for

1150
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 1: seven touchdown drive and then seconds later mac Jones throws

1151
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 1: a pick six to Xavien Howard. There's suddenly down fourteen nothing.

1152
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 1: Mac Jones lost a fumble later in the game. We

1153
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 1: heard that Jacoby Meyers lateral disaster. At the end, they

1154
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 1: kind of sealed it. Uh. Duke Johnson ran all over

1155
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 1: them for a hundred and seven seven seventeen yards. The

1156
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 1: Pats gave up a hundred on the ground. Jalen Waddle

1157
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 1: set the record for the most rookie receptions in NFL history.

1158
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 1: The Patriots were also banged up. Christian Barmore got hurt

1159
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 1: late in the game. Isaiah Win, their left tackle, left

1160
01:01:57,040 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 1: with an ankle injury. Ramandre Stevenson had a head in injury.

1161
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 1: I mean, it just seemed to me there's their worst

1162
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 1: performance in a while, and Belichick basically said we played poorly.

1163
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 1: Coach poorly, didn't do anything. Mac Jones said it was

1164
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 1: a super He used the words a super embarrassing performance

1165
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 1: on his own. Now, I think he made Mac Jones

1166
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 1: made some pretty fantastic throws down the stretch, but they

1167
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 1: were they puilt, They put to themselves in too much

1168
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 1: of a hole. And like you said, down in Miami,

1169
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 1: the Dolphins have somehow had their number the last week

1170
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 1: of the season, and they did it all over again, right,

1171
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 1: and they did it in New England a couple of

1172
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 1: years ago to to get that one take that one

1173
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 1: seat away with Ryan Fitzpatrick. You know, the injuries to

1174
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:40,919
Speaker 1: be are the biggest story. Like the Patriots haven't looked

1175
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 1: like a world beating team other than against the Jaguars

1176
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 1: for a while. But you know, bar More to me

1177
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 1: is their best defensive lineman right now. Judean has gone

1178
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 1: real quiet and made a lot of mistakes over the

1179
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 1: last month. Uh and Barmore gets carted off. You're starting

1180
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 1: left tackle Stevenson makes them special, I think with the

1181
01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 1: one to combo with Harris and so that to me

1182
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 1: is their biggest problem. Not not even just that they're

1183
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 1: playing poorly, because I think they could bounce back, but

1184
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:09,439
Speaker 1: those are three really important players for them. I'm gonna

1185
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 1: set the spread. This feels like a m hmm. They'll

1186
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:20,919
Speaker 1: set it at Buffalo by three laying that wood. That's

1187
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 1: my guess. Uh four and a half, four and a half, okay, alright,

1188
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:29,480
Speaker 1: so they're given the Bills a little more respect, but

1189
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:31,960
Speaker 1: we'll see. Yeah, that's something the track here with the

1190
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 1: Patriots where they're at injury wise, Let's um keep moving

1191
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 1: on here and take care of the a f C

1192
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 1: by taking a trip to about leave Land. Keendom play action,

1193
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 1: fake steps to the pocket. He's got a good pocket.

1194
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 1: He trumps left Land, record it, touchdown problems go ahead

1195
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 1: six yeah, case king him getting it done. Two touchdown

1196
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 1: passes for the backup quarterback in for Baker Mayfield after

1197
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 1: he underwent surgery to fix his body up, and the

1198
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 1: Browns pulled off the Bengals. Seen the Bengals who started

1199
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 1: Brandon Allen rested a bunch of starters. They weren't really

1200
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 1: into playoff positioning. They chose to try to get healthy

1201
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 1: for wild card weekend. So the Browns finished eight and nine,

1202
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 1: Bengals ten and seven. Browns go home, Bengals get the Raiders.

1203
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 1: On Saturday in the West of US for adults, game Mark,

1204
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 1: how you doing, buddy? Um, I'm very did you watch

1205
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 1: the game? I don't even know. Do we have this

1206
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 1: on this one? You know how I'd like to have

1207
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 1: like fourteen games up at the same time on my Yeah,

1208
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 1: it got the best to me today. I kept an

1209
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 1: eye on it. Um. It just feels like anything in

1210
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 1: life that needed to end a couple of months ago.

1211
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 1: The watching the Browns on a weekly basis, they've driven

1212
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:57,320
Speaker 1: me nuts. Um. You know, I think one of the

1213
01:04:57,360 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 1: bigger news items over the weekend were these reports that

1214
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 1: they are bringing Baker Mayfield back, that that at least

1215
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 1: that's where we stand right now. It sounds like that

1216
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 1: that whatever divorce we thought might happen will not be happening. So,

1217
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 1: you know, I think it's just there's a lack of

1218
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 1: other quarterbacks to go look for. But what an uninspiring

1219
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 1: performance by them and the Bengals, who would have thought

1220
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 1: three or four months ago come out is the much

1221
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 1: more electrifying team in Ohio. Um, it's been a depressing

1222
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 1: year for Browns fans in every possible way. And you

1223
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 1: see about that Baker report, I wonder if if it's

1224
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 1: it's a done deal or that's just like the starting

1225
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 1: point in this story. And you think this January thing,

1226
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 1: it's always couched. It says they plan to move forward. Well,

1227
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 1: you gotta put it out there like that right now,

1228
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 1: because they probably do not like the idea of what's

1229
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 1: happened in the last week, which is that like there's

1230
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 1: a good chance that he's gonna be traded that hurts

1231
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 1: their leverage. They have to start it at the point

1232
01:05:57,200 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 1: where of course we're okay keeping them, or they're already

1233
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 1: like starting any trade talks at a disadvantage, and they

1234
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:06,560
Speaker 1: want him to believe that they're keeping them too, because

1235
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 1: that's obviously a possibility. But they don't have to worry

1236
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 1: about it now. I did see like a headline. I

1237
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 1: didn't read it, but one of the local Brown's papers

1238
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 1: is just like that said, case Keenum gives them solid play,

1239
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 1: solid quarterback play in this game. They could have used

1240
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 1: solid quarterback play over the last six weeks. And I

1241
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:27,480
Speaker 1: do think that's a fair thought that you do wonder

1242
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 1: what this season could have been like with with a

1243
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 1: healthier Baker or just with case Keenum over the last

1244
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 1: six weeks. Because as bad as the season it was,

1245
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 1: it was, you know, there one game out of the playoffs,

1246
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 1: it wasn't that that crazy? Well, I mean Dan has

1247
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 1: been pushing for them to put Keenum in for two months,

1248
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 1: and I think, you know, in the final analysis, there's

1249
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 1: a strong reason to think that things could have been

1250
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 1: a little bit different. All they needed to do was

1251
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 1: score another touchdown in a couple of these games. I mean,

1252
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 1: they were competitive, but quarterback play was a major, major

1253
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 1: issue for them. Um. All right, so there we go.

1254
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 1: We'll we'll be talking about the Browns offseason plans. We'll

1255
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:06,920
Speaker 1: be talking about what happens next with all the teams

1256
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 1: that move on from their head coaches a little later

1257
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 1: in the week. But that wraps up the a f C.

1258
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:13,960
Speaker 1: Let's take a break here and move on to the NFC.

1259
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 1: Welcome back, all right, Now, a f C in the books,

1260
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 1: but there's a whole other conference we're gonna dig into now,

1261
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:25,040
Speaker 1: figure out how the playoffs all shook out. No better

1262
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 1: place to start then right here in Los Angeles, where

1263
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 1: the Rams and Niners did battle. In a classic hit it,

1264
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:36,400
Speaker 1: Ricky Stafford, back on first down, throws a take one

1265
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 1: down the right sideline for Odell Beckham. Jorgia got accepted

1266
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 1: by every Thomas. Every Thomas takes it away. The Rams

1267
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 1: only have one time on remating the forty Niners are

1268
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 1: gonna win the game in l A. And they have

1269
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:56,320
Speaker 1: won the game. They are going to Dallas Starlington, Texas

1270
01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:59,920
Speaker 1: next week to end it. Greg Papa with the call.

1271
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:05,000
Speaker 1: kN b r Embry Thomas, the rookie closed it out

1272
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 1: with the interception of Matthew Stafford in overtime. Overtime, allowing

1273
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty Niners to defeat the Los Angeles

1274
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:17,800
Speaker 1: Rams to four at Sophi Stadium, Sofi Stadium that was

1275
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:21,760
Speaker 1: packed with Niners parents. I mean that was that told

1276
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 1: you something right there in this game, Greg, The Niners

1277
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 1: overcame a seventeen nothing first half deficit. They took the

1278
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:36,880
Speaker 1: game over in the trenches, gave the lead up again,

1279
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 1: but they kept coming back and they closed it out.

1280
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:43,080
Speaker 1: They're going to the playoffs where they'll face the Cowboys

1281
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 1: next week in Dallas. The Rams, even though they lose,

1282
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:50,720
Speaker 1: still win the NFC West becaucause the Cardinals gagged and

1283
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 1: they will host the Cardinals next week. Crazy game. Fund

1284
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 1: game lived up to the hype. Greg, Yeah, I can't

1285
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 1: think of many case is of a team forcing their

1286
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:05,920
Speaker 1: way into the playoffs with a more stirring win than this.

1287
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 1: To be trailing seventeen points in the second half, and

1288
01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:11,760
Speaker 1: you know, we we know that the Forts needed this

1289
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:13,960
Speaker 1: win because of what happened in that Saints Falcons game

1290
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 1: to get into the playoffs, to come all the way back,

1291
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:21,040
Speaker 1: to need a touchdown drive that going the length of

1292
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:23,560
Speaker 1: the field to tie it, to force over time with

1293
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:27,800
Speaker 1: no time out to get it. Uh. Is one of

1294
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:30,960
Speaker 1: the moments, obviously of the Kyle Shanahan era, of Jimmy

1295
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 1: Garoppolo's career, and to me, one of the worst moments

1296
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:38,960
Speaker 1: of Sean mcveigh's coaching career, because I put a lot

1297
01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:42,760
Speaker 1: of this game on the way he handled the last

1298
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 1: couple of minutes you're referring to. After the touchdown to

1299
01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 1: tie it, I assume at twenty four the Rams get

1300
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:51,920
Speaker 1: the ball back with some timeouts in a little bit

1301
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:55,640
Speaker 1: of time. No, I'm I'm talking about when when they

1302
01:09:56,280 --> 01:10:00,760
Speaker 1: have the lead and they're near midfield. U Uh. But

1303
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 1: what is right under two minutes to go? You bringing

1304
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:09,720
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford, you need one first down to end the

1305
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 1: forty niner season, to end this five game streak, and

1306
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:16,040
Speaker 1: what do you do? You call three straight runs, the

1307
01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:19,800
Speaker 1: third of them on third and seven, with total give

1308
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 1: up play. You know it's not gonna get it. You

1309
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:24,600
Speaker 1: were choosing at that point on third and seven that

1310
01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 1: you would rather take the final time out from the

1311
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:32,400
Speaker 1: forty niners then give yourself a chance to win. It

1312
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:37,760
Speaker 1: was an unbelievable herm Edwards moment topped um a few

1313
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:40,679
Speaker 1: seconds later or a few drive later, when it's twenty

1314
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:43,240
Speaker 1: four all and yeah, they get they get the ball

1315
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:45,799
Speaker 1: to the thirty seven or so. Matthew Stafford is sacked

1316
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:48,640
Speaker 1: with about you know, thirteen seconds left and he let

1317
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 1: the time click off. That wasn't as bad to me

1318
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:53,559
Speaker 1: as the three straight runs, but that was insane too.

1319
01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:55,800
Speaker 1: They had time for at least two plays and they

1320
01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 1: were only twenty five yards away from field goal position

1321
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 1: with the Pro Bowl kicker. That was a hundred percent

1322
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:05,679
Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh like losing his his nerve or his mind

1323
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 1: a little bit and not thinking clearly, because I bet

1324
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:10,720
Speaker 1: if you could have especially that last sequence over, he

1325
01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:12,880
Speaker 1: would absolutely take a time out and not tell his

1326
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 1: offense that we're giving up. We're not gonna give you

1327
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:18,200
Speaker 1: a chance to make him play. It's not real, man,

1328
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:21,920
Speaker 1: I was blown away by can I just mark before

1329
01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 1: I throw it to you. I'm gonna play the other

1330
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 1: side of this. I didn't hate the move to run

1331
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:30,280
Speaker 1: the ball three times. There you had um gotten a

1332
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:34,280
Speaker 1: huge interception, then your offense went down the field, go

1333
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:37,080
Speaker 1: ahead touchdown now has come on the field. You get

1334
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:39,799
Speaker 1: a three and out. And McVeigh then had a decision.

1335
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 1: He felt like his defense had settled down, and he said,

1336
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:45,320
Speaker 1: we're gonna play ball control. We're gonna kill the time outs.

1337
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:48,240
Speaker 1: We're gonna take this thing down. Uh two a minute

1338
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 1: and a half to play, and forced San Francisco to

1339
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:53,560
Speaker 1: go ninety yards against my defense that I trust and

1340
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:56,679
Speaker 1: believe in, filled with all these stars, and they totally

1341
01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:59,320
Speaker 1: you can you can you can trust it when you

1342
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:01,200
Speaker 1: don't pick up the first down by trying to throw

1343
01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:05,160
Speaker 1: the ball. He's just he's just like so unbelievable that

1344
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:10,000
Speaker 1: in the understand that I understand what you're saying wasn't changing.

1345
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 1: All it was was taking a time or out or

1346
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:14,960
Speaker 1: two away block wouldn't change, nothing would change. I know

1347
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 1: it all looks like the timeouts didn't matter because they

1348
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 1: went right down the field. But the fact that they

1349
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:22,920
Speaker 1: really put they had to go eighty eight yards without

1350
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:24,760
Speaker 1: a time out. Now, Mark, they did it, and I

1351
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:26,920
Speaker 1: just I guess what I'm saying is I understand your

1352
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:29,439
Speaker 1: side of that, Greg, But he basically McVeigh said, I

1353
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:31,720
Speaker 1: trust my defense to not give up a touchdown here,

1354
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 1: and I thought they gagged in a big spot. I'd

1355
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:35,680
Speaker 1: love to hear what he has to say about that.

1356
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:38,040
Speaker 1: The sequence that you that you mentioned Greg as well.

1357
01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a team that has been totally

1358
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 1: owned in a coaching staff that's been totally owned by

1359
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 1: the Niners, and we you know, we knew that coming in,

1360
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:49,160
Speaker 1: and I thought that this came down to so many

1361
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 1: impressive individual performances on both on from both teams. Honestly,

1362
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:55,560
Speaker 1: it was one of the games where it's like, I know,

1363
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:58,000
Speaker 1: we have like twenty two games of the year. It

1364
01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 1: was one of the most enjoyable football contest that we've

1365
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:03,559
Speaker 1: seen this season, and it stood out in a big spot.

1366
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:05,960
Speaker 1: And for me, I mean, Jimmy g for all the

1367
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:09,480
Speaker 1: stuff that Garoppolo has gone through this year, this offseason

1368
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:12,520
Speaker 1: leading up, that was a signature moment and a signature

1369
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:14,920
Speaker 1: drive by him. And it was just guys, like you know,

1370
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:17,360
Speaker 1: all sorts of Niners players stepping up. I love that

1371
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 1: they did not abandon who they were when they were

1372
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:23,120
Speaker 1: down seventeen nothing. They came out with that ten play,

1373
01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 1: ten straight runs, then the Debot Samuel touchdown pass. I mean,

1374
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:30,640
Speaker 1: it's like they to me, that would have been a

1375
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 1: big spot for them to get away from their identity,

1376
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 1: lose themselves a bit, and the Rams cap the thing.

1377
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:38,040
Speaker 1: I mean, the Rams looked more like the Niners the

1378
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:40,040
Speaker 1: way they opened it with a third team play field

1379
01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 1: goal drive, a twelve play touchdown drive. The Niners were

1380
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:45,400
Speaker 1: in deep space early on in this thing and did

1381
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:48,439
Speaker 1: not flinch. I I the better. I'm so glad that

1382
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:51,439
Speaker 1: they've made it into the postseason because the way they're coached,

1383
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 1: the way they operate, they're imperfect, but they are going

1384
01:13:54,200 --> 01:14:00,519
Speaker 1: to give the Cowboys a test. Alive Mark, you know

1385
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:02,439
Speaker 1: we picked the forty Niners to win the Super Bowl.

1386
01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:04,760
Speaker 1: It's still alive. Well, I'm not surprised that you know

1387
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:10,439
Speaker 1: that that's come to fruition halfway through the San Francisco

1388
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:13,160
Speaker 1: forty nine has made the NFC way more interesting in

1389
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 1: the playoffs here. We'll get to the Saints later. Kudos.

1390
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:17,720
Speaker 1: Now they finished their season. They deserve a lot of

1391
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:20,360
Speaker 1: credit considering everything they were up against. But I think

1392
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:22,560
Speaker 1: the forty niners have a chance to go through that

1393
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:24,720
Speaker 1: conference if if they get hot. And and yes, I

1394
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 1: agree totally about Garoppolo. I think he is a guy

1395
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 1: who's a bit of a punching bag. Um. I certainly

1396
01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:34,360
Speaker 1: have not always been very high on him. I thought

1397
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 1: they were cooked when they were down seventeen nothing, and

1398
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:38,599
Speaker 1: he seemed to be not playing at a high level

1399
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:40,560
Speaker 1: with the bed thumb and everything, and he made so

1400
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 1: many big throws down the stretch, and I thought that

1401
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:45,840
Speaker 1: that drive that that we were just talking about when

1402
01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:49,720
Speaker 1: McVeigh decided to punt it away and take the time

1403
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:52,160
Speaker 1: outs away and put it in Garoppolo's hands and say,

1404
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:54,000
Speaker 1: this guy's not gonna beat us, and he just he

1405
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:57,679
Speaker 1: carved him up. It wasn't even competitive. It was five plays,

1406
01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:00,280
Speaker 1: eighty eight yards and sixty one seconds in a tie game.

1407
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:03,200
Speaker 1: And I mean, so much of that goes back too.

1408
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:06,000
Speaker 1: I think he's not in the Cooper Cup. I think

1409
01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 1: is the Offensive Player of the Year. I think Cooper

1410
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:10,160
Speaker 1: Cup is a very good chance of or should have

1411
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:12,080
Speaker 1: a good chance of winning m VP. But if you

1412
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:16,400
Speaker 1: watch Deebo Samuel every Sunday this year. This guy is

1413
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:19,400
Speaker 1: unbelievable what he brings to this team. As long as

1414
01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:23,080
Speaker 1: he stays healthy, uh and Brandon Aiyuk stays on the field,

1415
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:26,439
Speaker 1: and George kittles around with that running game, I think

1416
01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:29,599
Speaker 1: this team really is dangerous. Samuel was dominant in many

1417
01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:32,640
Speaker 1: ways today. I also think that Samuel, like there are

1418
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:34,640
Speaker 1: a lot of divas in this league that would not

1419
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 1: accept the role that he was put into where suddenly

1420
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:39,400
Speaker 1: you were becoming a running back. I mean, and then

1421
01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:42,000
Speaker 1: when they scouted him Shanahan, they talked about the game

1422
01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 1: that Shanahan saw those qualities in him. But he's an

1423
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 1: unselfish player who is incredibly dynamic and they trust him

1424
01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:50,760
Speaker 1: to do so much and he's an absolute raging star

1425
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:53,880
Speaker 1: for this team. Right that. The two big plays on

1426
01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:56,280
Speaker 1: that drive is Ayu to start it for twenty one

1427
01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:59,919
Speaker 1: yards making a great play after the catch, and Samuel

1428
01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:02,639
Speaker 1: making an even better play a perfect throw from Jimmy

1429
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:05,360
Speaker 1: g But then Samuel makes it special going for forty

1430
01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 1: three yards after the catch, Like I think a lot

1431
01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:10,280
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks could succeed in this situation, and and they

1432
01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:14,559
Speaker 1: overcame Jimmy G's two interceptions here. Um, but I guess

1433
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 1: I'm being hard on McVeigh because it's the biggest moment

1434
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:22,280
Speaker 1: of the season, right, and he lost his composure. He

1435
01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:25,559
Speaker 1: they took two time outs on defense in the overtime

1436
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:28,080
Speaker 1: we haven't even mentioned overtime, which the forty Niners go

1437
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 1: down get get a field goal. Yeah, the Rams do

1438
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:35,040
Speaker 1: stop him in the red zone and then at that

1439
01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:37,559
Speaker 1: point the Rams have to go score a touchdown because

1440
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:39,240
Speaker 1: the tie. You know, what's the point of a tie

1441
01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 1: in this situation? Really you want to knock the forty

1442
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:43,320
Speaker 1: Niners out of the playoffs in the in the forty

1443
01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:45,680
Speaker 1: Niners would have made the playoffs with the tie. They

1444
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:47,599
Speaker 1: didn't have any time outs left because they had used

1445
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:50,719
Speaker 1: their two time outs, and like totally bizarre situations before

1446
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:53,519
Speaker 1: that on one of them, including right before the kick,

1447
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 1: which it just I guess it was just like a

1448
01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:58,679
Speaker 1: straight I don't know if it was a lot re reveal,

1449
01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:01,639
Speaker 1: but it was I think one of his worst moments

1450
01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:04,760
Speaker 1: in terms of McVeigh at the end, and and a

1451
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:06,760
Speaker 1: lot of people are gonna get on Stafford to you

1452
01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 1: have you have the interception while the forty Niners are

1453
01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:10,920
Speaker 1: making that come back. It's a little bit of an

1454
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 1: arm punt, but it was a bad throw. Uh. And

1455
01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 1: then you finish with with how they finished, which was

1456
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:18,880
Speaker 1: like one of the worst series Odell Beckham could have

1457
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:21,240
Speaker 1: possibly had. Appears that he ran the ron route on

1458
01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:23,760
Speaker 1: the first uh snap, got in the way a cup

1459
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:26,479
Speaker 1: and then Stafford has a bad throw to to O

1460
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:29,840
Speaker 1: b J who did stack the cornerback. It was behind him,

1461
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:31,720
Speaker 1: so it's more on Stafford there, but it was just like,

1462
01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:35,599
Speaker 1: I know, this isn't a popular take because everyone's always

1463
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:38,080
Speaker 1: defend O Dell to the end, but you can you

1464
01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:41,240
Speaker 1: compete for that ball there a little bit more under

1465
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:44,040
Speaker 1: but he he didn't. He didn't. Yeah, well, I think

1466
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:45,920
Speaker 1: one of his issues a lot of times he doesn't

1467
01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:49,120
Speaker 1: locate the ball like quick enough. In that situation, he

1468
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:50,920
Speaker 1: just didn't see the ball clearly. I mean, he was

1469
01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:53,840
Speaker 1: behind the defender, so it's tough to really put to

1470
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:57,080
Speaker 1: too too much on him. Um when the quarterback under

1471
01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:59,040
Speaker 1: throws it, but does he have the play before? I mean,

1472
01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:02,559
Speaker 1: that was three straight completions to Alda Beckham to finish

1473
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:06,200
Speaker 1: that game, and this game matter for the Rams. I

1474
01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:08,960
Speaker 1: know they won the division anyways, but they're now the

1475
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 1: four seed. I don't think the matchup is particularly harder

1476
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:14,599
Speaker 1: in the first round, you know, you get the Cardinals. Um,

1477
01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:16,960
Speaker 1: although who who would have they have had They would

1478
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:18,960
Speaker 1: have had the Saints, so the matchup is much harder.

1479
01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:21,080
Speaker 1: They would have had the Saints as a two seed

1480
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:24,320
Speaker 1: and a possible home game in the divisional round, and

1481
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:26,599
Speaker 1: now instead you've got the Cardinals, which is a tougher

1482
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:29,719
Speaker 1: wild card, and you're gonna be if you win, going

1483
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:31,880
Speaker 1: on the road to Lambeau in the second round. That's

1484
01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:34,360
Speaker 1: one little thing about the Rams. I thought that they

1485
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:37,360
Speaker 1: in the second half, especially in the first long stretches

1486
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:40,640
Speaker 1: of the third quarter, their offensive line, which has you know,

1487
01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 1: I think there were doubts about their old line coming

1488
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:45,679
Speaker 1: into the year, but they've They've done a commendable job overall.

1489
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:48,800
Speaker 1: But I thought they were dominated by the Niners front. Uh.

1490
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:51,559
Speaker 1: They went into overtime with Stafford taking five sacks. At

1491
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 1: one point he looked injured. I just think this team,

1492
01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:56,679
Speaker 1: like we've seen their high moments. You kind of could

1493
01:18:56,720 --> 01:18:58,720
Speaker 1: project them to go to the super Bowl. But I

1494
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:00,639
Speaker 1: also think that they've got a bit of a tight

1495
01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:03,840
Speaker 1: butt situation heading into the playoffs based on this game.

1496
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:06,080
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's It seems like every couple of

1497
01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:09,080
Speaker 1: weeks there are doubts surrounding the Rams. It was their toughness,

1498
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 1: it's Ken Stafford get out of games without multiple interceptions

1499
01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:14,880
Speaker 1: and turnovers. And now you've got this thing with Sean McVeigh,

1500
01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:17,000
Speaker 1: and I just they're they've got a lot to answer

1501
01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:19,600
Speaker 1: for a week from now, and yet they are the

1502
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:22,240
Speaker 1: NFC West champions and they will be paying at home

1503
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:26,160
Speaker 1: next week against a fading Cardinals team. Fading is the

1504
01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:29,439
Speaker 1: way to describe them. Let's talk about the Arizona Cardinals,

1505
01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 1: who had a chance to steal the NFC West if

1506
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:35,640
Speaker 1: they could just beat the sixth, the seven, excuse me,

1507
01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:39,280
Speaker 1: the six and ten Seahawks in their own building. They

1508
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:42,320
Speaker 1: couldn't do it. Russ takes the snap, hands to Penny.

1509
01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:45,880
Speaker 1: He gets a backside cut, he goes across the midfield, California.

1510
01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:52,840
Speaker 1: He's got out, run up ten five? Is it touchdown?

1511
01:19:53,439 --> 01:19:57,519
Speaker 1: Seahawks were shot. Penny was going so fast he was

1512
01:19:57,600 --> 01:20:01,960
Speaker 1: crossing yard lines and I didn't even see sixty yards

1513
01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:06,479
Speaker 1: ran away from the defense. Ros shot Penny. What a day.

1514
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:11,040
Speaker 1: Steve ribal K I r O with a call man

1515
01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:14,600
Speaker 1: Rashot Penny, former first round pick all but forgotten his

1516
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:17,800
Speaker 1: injuries derailed his career. He was a monster down the

1517
01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:20,600
Speaker 1: stretch for the Seahawks. He ran for a hundred and

1518
01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:24,320
Speaker 1: ninety yards and that score. Russell Wilson threw three more

1519
01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:28,560
Speaker 1: touchdown passes, averaged over nine yards per attempt, and the

1520
01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 1: Seahawks knockoff the Cardinals thirty eight to thirty. As I said,

1521
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:38,200
Speaker 1: Arizona still goes to the postseason, but they limp in

1522
01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:41,519
Speaker 1: as the number five seed for their matchup with the Rams.

1523
01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:45,360
Speaker 1: The Seahawks go home, but they at least resembled themselves

1524
01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:49,000
Speaker 1: down the stretch. Greg, how did this game play out?

1525
01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:52,519
Speaker 1: It played out like the Seahawks for the playoff team,

1526
01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:54,920
Speaker 1: and they just looked like a better team. The Cardinals,

1527
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:57,479
Speaker 1: to me, were lucky to be in this game. Towards

1528
01:20:57,560 --> 01:21:01,040
Speaker 1: the end of halftime, it was yards for the Seahawks,

1529
01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:03,679
Speaker 1: eighties six for the Cardinals. It took a Gerald Everett

1530
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:05,880
Speaker 1: drop in the end zone wide open play which is

1531
01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:09,200
Speaker 1: kind of been unfortunately his specialty this year. Uh and

1532
01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:13,160
Speaker 1: a Chandler Jones forced fumble that turned into a touchdown

1533
01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:16,160
Speaker 1: by the Cardinals. Defense on like the second play from

1534
01:21:16,240 --> 01:21:19,000
Speaker 1: scrimmage to keep this thing close. But then the card

1535
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:21,400
Speaker 1: the Cardinals come all the way back in it, and

1536
01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 1: you think that they've righted the ship. Um. But Seattle's

1537
01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:28,040
Speaker 1: offensive line was like great down the stretch. I mean

1538
01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:31,160
Speaker 1: they were like opening up holes for shot penny h.

1539
01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:34,760
Speaker 1: Wilson was about his explosives of I've seen him uh

1540
01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:37,479
Speaker 1: this season in terms of like evading defenders. It was

1541
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:40,639
Speaker 1: a lot of just Russell Wilson improvising as he runs

1542
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 1: around and he um. I don't know, like you you

1543
01:21:46,360 --> 01:21:47,760
Speaker 1: looked at these two teams. I think they caught the

1544
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:49,680
Speaker 1: Seahawks at the wrong time. But I went into this

1545
01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:51,519
Speaker 1: game thing and the Seahawks are just a better team

1546
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:54,639
Speaker 1: right now that they've played their best lately. It's mostly

1547
01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:57,640
Speaker 1: because of their offense. And the Cardinals are are a

1548
01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:00,559
Speaker 1: bit of a mess. I mean, James Conner hurt right

1549
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:01,840
Speaker 1: at the end of this game too. I don't know

1550
01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:03,920
Speaker 1: if it was serious, but he converted a third and

1551
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:06,720
Speaker 1: eight teen run uh and then left the game after that,

1552
01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:08,720
Speaker 1: and that that got me worried because he he made

1553
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:11,519
Speaker 1: a big difference just by being out there today. I

1554
01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:14,680
Speaker 1: worry about this team, This Cardinals team, they just it's

1555
01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:19,720
Speaker 1: just been a month straight of confused offense. Uh, you know,

1556
01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:23,320
Speaker 1: they're banged up. Uh. Their their defense, which used to

1557
01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:25,479
Speaker 1: be such a difference making unit. Um. You know, they

1558
01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:27,479
Speaker 1: had a big play that what was at a near

1559
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:29,360
Speaker 1: pick six today that put them in deep in car

1560
01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:32,800
Speaker 1: in Seahawks territory. But I mean, Rachelle Penny is kind

1561
01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:34,920
Speaker 1: of made it impossible to deal with the Seahawks too.

1562
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:37,000
Speaker 1: I mean, they caught him at the wrong time. They

1563
01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:38,559
Speaker 1: just caught him at the wrong time. And I don't

1564
01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:41,320
Speaker 1: I just like, look at the Cardinals and they don't

1565
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:44,040
Speaker 1: seem like the team they were two months ago. And

1566
01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:48,320
Speaker 1: Kyla Murray's so visibly frustrated today. He just seems something's

1567
01:22:48,320 --> 01:22:50,800
Speaker 1: not right. He slammed his helmet on the ground, sitting

1568
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:52,680
Speaker 1: right next to the coach. I was wondering if that

1569
01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:54,760
Speaker 1: was because they didn't go for it on fourth and short,

1570
01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:57,600
Speaker 1: or whether he just was frustrated they didn't pick up

1571
01:22:57,640 --> 01:23:00,200
Speaker 1: the third down because they they did go for it

1572
01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:02,840
Speaker 1: earlier in the game in a similar situation. Because we

1573
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:05,240
Speaker 1: can say that they caught the Seahawks at the wrong time.

1574
01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:08,280
Speaker 1: But it's like, man, you if you're if you're any good,

1575
01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:11,040
Speaker 1: you're the Cardinals in that spot in week eight team

1576
01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:14,240
Speaker 1: and you see the scoreboard, what's going on, and in

1577
01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:17,759
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, you should be able to take care of business.

1578
01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:19,640
Speaker 1: So I think when you look at the arc of

1579
01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:23,519
Speaker 1: their season, as disappointed as the ramsar tonight, even as

1580
01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:27,000
Speaker 1: division champions, you love that you have the Cardinals coming

1581
01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:29,760
Speaker 1: into your building. Um, you probably would have liked it

1582
01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:31,479
Speaker 1: better if it was maybe the Eagles are the Saints.

1583
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:35,799
Speaker 1: But yeah, you're you're feeling pretty good because you're like, okay,

1584
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:38,160
Speaker 1: we can kind of reset things. We get a team

1585
01:23:38,200 --> 01:23:41,160
Speaker 1: that seems to be free falling out of the mix. Now,

1586
01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:43,720
Speaker 1: of course, this is the NFL and nothing really makes sense.

1587
01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:46,639
Speaker 1: And if Kyler Murray goes off for four or five

1588
01:23:46,680 --> 01:23:50,080
Speaker 1: total touchdowns next weekend, that wouldn't be stunning either. But

1589
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:52,160
Speaker 1: I think at this point we've seen enough from this

1590
01:23:52,360 --> 01:23:56,800
Speaker 1: offense really since Kyler came back, UM to say that

1591
01:23:57,720 --> 01:23:59,640
Speaker 1: is this gonna be ever an explosive unit again for

1592
01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:03,000
Speaker 1: the rest the year. Right then had a nineteen play,

1593
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:06,679
Speaker 1: ten minute, forty one second drive that didn't even reach

1594
01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:10,400
Speaker 1: the Seahawks red zone, which which is like an anomaly,

1595
01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:14,040
Speaker 1: but it also to me spells out how unexplosive this

1596
01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:18,439
Speaker 1: offense is. Like each one of their receivers Kirk Green

1597
01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:22,639
Speaker 1: and Wesley like made backbreaking mental errors in this game,

1598
01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:24,479
Speaker 1: and they're not. It's not like they're making up for

1599
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:27,080
Speaker 1: it with with great explosive plays. No, they had six

1600
01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:30,040
Speaker 1: drives go for seventeen or fewer yards. I mean, it's

1601
01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:33,560
Speaker 1: just completely counter opposite to the first encounter with the

1602
01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:35,759
Speaker 1: Rams where they want it was thirty seven to twenty

1603
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:38,360
Speaker 1: and put up nearly five yards of offense. This is

1604
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:40,240
Speaker 1: a different team right now. Well, they have two big

1605
01:24:40,280 --> 01:24:43,040
Speaker 1: weaknesses right now. Their offensive line cannot protect Kyler. He

1606
01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:45,320
Speaker 1: was a disaster today. And again I really think the

1607
01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:48,599
Speaker 1: Seats are playing well like that. They it took too long,

1608
01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:51,080
Speaker 1: but they've looked quite good over the last month or so.

1609
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:54,760
Speaker 1: Um and they're cornerbacks are really injured where they're playing

1610
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:57,200
Speaker 1: to practice squad guys, and if they if they could

1611
01:24:57,240 --> 01:24:59,120
Speaker 1: get healthier for next week, that would help. But if not,

1612
01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:01,960
Speaker 1: the Ram as you said, Dan have to have to

1613
01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:03,680
Speaker 1: love that match. But I do wonder if this It

1614
01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:05,960
Speaker 1: shouldn't matter in theory, but I do wonder if this

1615
01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:09,200
Speaker 1: last couple of games helps Pete Carroll keep his job.

1616
01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:13,240
Speaker 1: You would think it would, I just I mean, and

1617
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:16,639
Speaker 1: as much as from the outside we all think, oh man,

1618
01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:19,760
Speaker 1: this Carol thing has kind of run its course in Seattle. Well,

1619
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:22,160
Speaker 1: they have a long track record of success there, even

1620
01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:24,360
Speaker 1: if there's only one ring, and the fact that they

1621
01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:26,960
Speaker 1: end strong. If him and Russell Wilson are in good terms,

1622
01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:29,880
Speaker 1: I would think it's more likely it comes Mike comes back,

1623
01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:33,639
Speaker 1: both of them, I should say, Mike. Garretfolo reported early

1624
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:36,800
Speaker 1: this morning that the Seahawks have no plans to trade

1625
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:41,280
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson um this offseason. So I guess now becomes

1626
01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:44,000
Speaker 1: if if that report checks out is true, do they

1627
01:25:44,040 --> 01:25:46,640
Speaker 1: bring back Pete Carroll? I think they will, but right

1628
01:25:46,640 --> 01:25:49,479
Speaker 1: because who are the Seahawks that are not planning, you

1629
01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:52,120
Speaker 1: would assume that's John Schneider and Pete Carroll, And I

1630
01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:54,720
Speaker 1: think that's the bigger first question is if whether those

1631
01:25:54,760 --> 01:25:57,200
Speaker 1: two guys returned or not. Well, and we thought we

1632
01:25:57,280 --> 01:26:00,400
Speaker 1: get all these anonymous reports by now, and there has

1633
01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:02,920
Speaker 1: just been not much heat around Carol being just like

1634
01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:07,679
Speaker 1: even when the seasons a rap and they're aut of contention,

1635
01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:10,200
Speaker 1: just like lighting up a couple opponents at the end

1636
01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:12,400
Speaker 1: of the season. I think that matters in terms of

1637
01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:14,080
Speaker 1: calming things down a little bit. Right, if you look

1638
01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:16,759
Speaker 1: at their statistical profile, like in terms of points scored

1639
01:26:16,920 --> 01:26:19,560
Speaker 1: and the analytics and stuff, it's like they almost have

1640
01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:22,360
Speaker 1: the exact same team in the yards per play stuff

1641
01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:24,080
Speaker 1: like that, yards for play allout as they did a

1642
01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:26,559
Speaker 1: year ago. It was just like they won a lot

1643
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:29,599
Speaker 1: of close games last year and they lost them this year. Um.

1644
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:32,479
Speaker 1: One one quick note though on not a lot of reports,

1645
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:36,280
Speaker 1: is there was one report that was essentially there's no

1646
01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:39,400
Speaker 1: which was essentially absolutely no one has any idea what

1647
01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:42,639
Speaker 1: Jody Allen is thinking. It's not like Jody Allen, who's

1648
01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:46,400
Speaker 1: you know, the sister Paul Allen Microsoft Air is talking

1649
01:26:46,520 --> 01:26:49,479
Speaker 1: to literally anyone and is too involved. So I think

1650
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:52,240
Speaker 1: everyone from Pete Carroll, the Russell Wilson, which was the report,

1651
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:55,240
Speaker 1: is in the dark and just is wondering what she's gone.

1652
01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:57,240
Speaker 1: I mean, could you pick Jody Allen out of the lineup?

1653
01:26:57,320 --> 01:27:00,280
Speaker 1: I couldn't. I did not only do I not, which

1654
01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:02,599
Speaker 1: he looks like I don't google there recently, just because

1655
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:04,840
Speaker 1: I was curious about this very it was like who

1656
01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:07,080
Speaker 1: what is? Because I didn't know if Jody Allen was

1657
01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:09,439
Speaker 1: a man or a woman, that was the problem. Um,

1658
01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:11,880
Speaker 1: and it is a woman. Remember the movie Days, We've

1659
01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:14,360
Speaker 1: got We've got that confirmed mark. Remember the movie Day

1660
01:27:14,439 --> 01:27:17,760
Speaker 1: where the fake President comes to the White House and

1661
01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:20,200
Speaker 1: he needs to learn about like everybody in the cabinet

1662
01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:22,120
Speaker 1: and all these things, and they actually have the cardboard

1663
01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:25,799
Speaker 1: cutouts so he could, you know, pass as the president.

1664
01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:28,360
Speaker 1: I do the same thing with all not only ownership

1665
01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:32,280
Speaker 1: in the NFL, but also high ranking executives and potential airs,

1666
01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:34,920
Speaker 1: just so I'm the best version of myself when I

1667
01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:37,840
Speaker 1: do this show. Well, you're very diligent. You're very diligent,

1668
01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:39,599
Speaker 1: and I and I know I could have I could

1669
01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:42,040
Speaker 1: follow your path and that, and yet I refused to.

1670
01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:44,920
Speaker 1: I mean, can you imagine because it's not expensible, dude,

1671
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:47,439
Speaker 1: those cardboard cutouts that I get made for all these people,

1672
01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:52,960
Speaker 1: the Jody Allen cut out that cost me two hundred dollars, Like,

1673
01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:54,960
Speaker 1: you need to find a place for this, you know,

1674
01:27:55,160 --> 01:27:56,960
Speaker 1: it's like this is taking up a lot of your

1675
01:27:57,200 --> 01:27:59,600
Speaker 1: lot of space, you know, your your homeownership that you

1676
01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:02,680
Speaker 1: have exactly, but it's all worth it to do this

1677
01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:06,799
Speaker 1: job the right way. Let's now move to Greg's Darling's

1678
01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:10,720
Speaker 1: the Saints who are not playing next week, but they

1679
01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:12,800
Speaker 1: did their very best to get there. How do the

1680
01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:16,000
Speaker 1: I formation face the handoff play action? Taste them looking

1681
01:28:16,240 --> 01:28:19,160
Speaker 1: to the far side to play the troutman. Troutman makes

1682
01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:22,120
Speaker 1: a completion and it's a touchdown. Adam Trampling on the

1683
01:28:22,240 --> 01:28:25,160
Speaker 1: far side, pot on the doctor three and then headed

1684
01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:31,840
Speaker 1: light for the pylon touchdown. New Orleans tasting Hill. He

1685
01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:36,080
Speaker 1: was looking good on Sunday Atlanta, throwing a touchdown pass,

1686
01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:39,920
Speaker 1: driving the ball with accuracy. He has to leave the

1687
01:28:39,960 --> 01:28:42,960
Speaker 1: game of the foot injury. Trevor Simeon comes in. He

1688
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:45,759
Speaker 1: throws a couple of touchdown passes. The Saints cruise thirty

1689
01:28:45,880 --> 01:28:49,839
Speaker 1: to twenty over the Falcons. We now welcome in the pipe,

1690
01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:54,040
Speaker 1: Nick Shook and SHOOKI the Saints needed help here. They

1691
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:56,519
Speaker 1: needed to win, get to nine and eight. They took

1692
01:28:56,560 --> 01:28:58,960
Speaker 1: care of their business. Then they needed the Rams to

1693
01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:03,080
Speaker 1: take care of the now owners. Unfortunately, that's seventeen. Nothing

1694
01:29:03,200 --> 01:29:05,519
Speaker 1: lead in Los Angeles didn't hold up, so the Saints

1695
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:08,439
Speaker 1: go home. But really an impressive close to their season.

1696
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:10,920
Speaker 1: It was impressive and I think it was appropriate in

1697
01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:12,960
Speaker 1: the fashion that they did it because they lost Taysom

1698
01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:15,120
Speaker 1: Hill to injury and had to turn to Trevor Simeon

1699
01:29:15,160 --> 01:29:17,679
Speaker 1: to finish this one out and finally got Alvin Kamara

1700
01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:20,720
Speaker 1: going for the first time in about a month. And

1701
01:29:21,040 --> 01:29:23,160
Speaker 1: yet after putting together, you know, one of their more

1702
01:29:23,200 --> 01:29:26,080
Speaker 1: complete performances, especially in the second half of the season,

1703
01:29:26,439 --> 01:29:29,000
Speaker 1: they end up setting at home because, like you said,

1704
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:31,000
Speaker 1: the Fortins were able to beat the Rams and knock

1705
01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:33,200
Speaker 1: the Saints out of the playoffs and and it and

1706
01:29:33,280 --> 01:29:35,960
Speaker 1: it really speaks to you know, for them from a

1707
01:29:36,040 --> 01:29:38,720
Speaker 1: season long perspective, a team that was hand that was

1708
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:41,639
Speaker 1: dealt a tough hand, managed to fight through a lot

1709
01:29:41,720 --> 01:29:43,960
Speaker 1: of it. But ultimately that is what sank them, the

1710
01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:45,800
Speaker 1: fact that they couldn't win games, They couldn't win a

1711
01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:47,560
Speaker 1: game last week that they desperately needed to win, that

1712
01:29:47,640 --> 01:29:51,719
Speaker 1: type of situation, uh, you know, undercutting them and keeping

1713
01:29:51,760 --> 01:29:54,719
Speaker 1: them home for the first time, you know, in five years.

1714
01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:56,479
Speaker 1: And and you know, the first year of the post

1715
01:29:56,560 --> 01:29:58,760
Speaker 1: Drew Brees era ending in disappointment for them, even though

1716
01:29:58,760 --> 01:30:02,720
Speaker 1: they played well counting on the Rams. You know, it's

1717
01:30:02,720 --> 01:30:06,000
Speaker 1: like the Rams have broken the Saints hearts a few times. Uh,

1718
01:30:06,160 --> 01:30:07,960
Speaker 1: the last few years. I mean, they had the score

1719
01:30:08,040 --> 01:30:10,080
Speaker 1: bug of the Rams game in the corner of Saints

1720
01:30:10,120 --> 01:30:12,840
Speaker 1: Falcon's this whole time, so you know, you're seeing it's

1721
01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:17,559
Speaker 1: seventeen nothing, and then you're seeing it's seventeen with under

1722
01:30:17,640 --> 01:30:20,360
Speaker 1: two minutes to go. It looked like the Saints are

1723
01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:23,360
Speaker 1: in the playoffs and Trevor Simeon is probably starting that

1724
01:30:23,439 --> 01:30:25,800
Speaker 1: game because Laura Open on the Sideline reported it was

1725
01:30:25,840 --> 01:30:28,479
Speaker 1: a Liz Frank injury for Hill, Taysom Hill, which was

1726
01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:30,880
Speaker 1: so disappointed. He was playing really well in this game,

1727
01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:32,800
Speaker 1: throwing it well as you mentioned, Dan and running it

1728
01:30:33,280 --> 01:30:36,599
Speaker 1: and I and I know, the better, more compelling team

1729
01:30:36,680 --> 01:30:39,120
Speaker 1: made the playoffs. I think that ultimately it's better for

1730
01:30:39,200 --> 01:30:41,400
Speaker 1: the overall product. But actually think the Saints would have

1731
01:30:41,439 --> 01:30:44,040
Speaker 1: been a problem for the Rams if they had a

1732
01:30:44,560 --> 01:30:47,800
Speaker 1: healthy Taysom Hill, especially uh. This team was just like

1733
01:30:48,720 --> 01:30:52,000
Speaker 1: one of the only defenses that mattered, and they finally

1734
01:30:52,040 --> 01:30:54,439
Speaker 1: were getting some playmakers to make some plays in this

1735
01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:58,400
Speaker 1: game and in the last couple of weeks. Yeah, I

1736
01:30:58,439 --> 01:31:00,519
Speaker 1: mean it was like I said, they got they got

1737
01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:02,920
Speaker 1: Camara going. Their defense has played well for a long time.

1738
01:31:03,200 --> 01:31:05,200
Speaker 1: The Falcons were playing just letting it fly because they

1739
01:31:05,240 --> 01:31:07,439
Speaker 1: had nothing to lose, and and it made for an

1740
01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:10,400
Speaker 1: interesting game, in an entertaining game. But yeah, like you said,

1741
01:31:10,439 --> 01:31:13,280
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it's it's disappointing because they would

1742
01:31:13,360 --> 01:31:15,320
Speaker 1: be kind of a tough out just because of the

1743
01:31:15,400 --> 01:31:17,120
Speaker 1: defense that they've had for the majority of the season,

1744
01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:19,920
Speaker 1: would make even the highest powered offense still kind of

1745
01:31:19,960 --> 01:31:23,080
Speaker 1: struggle at times in a playoffs setting. But you know, hey,

1746
01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:25,040
Speaker 1: this is this is the value of a quarterback like

1747
01:31:25,200 --> 01:31:26,880
Speaker 1: Drew Brees. I hate to say it, but like you know,

1748
01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:29,080
Speaker 1: the first year you go into a season without him,

1749
01:31:29,320 --> 01:31:31,759
Speaker 1: you end up starting four different guys. You know, Jamis

1750
01:31:31,800 --> 01:31:33,800
Speaker 1: gets hurt and gets knocked out of throws your entire

1751
01:31:33,880 --> 01:31:36,880
Speaker 1: plan off kilter and you're forced to kind of roll

1752
01:31:36,920 --> 01:31:38,880
Speaker 1: with the punches. And I give them credit. I mean,

1753
01:31:38,920 --> 01:31:42,040
Speaker 1: even today, they fought through and played a good football game.

1754
01:31:42,080 --> 01:31:45,799
Speaker 1: It's just that all those issues compounded and ultimately they

1755
01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:48,000
Speaker 1: lose by you know, they lose out in the playoffs

1756
01:31:48,040 --> 01:31:49,439
Speaker 1: by the skin of their teeth, and they're I think

1757
01:31:49,439 --> 01:31:51,479
Speaker 1: they're back to the drawing board because you know, if

1758
01:31:51,479 --> 01:31:53,320
Speaker 1: you look at them long term, which we have months

1759
01:31:53,400 --> 01:31:56,519
Speaker 1: to discuss this, but is Jamis Winston the guy. I mean,

1760
01:31:57,040 --> 01:31:59,519
Speaker 1: you know, they were all right with him. They were

1761
01:31:59,720 --> 01:32:01,360
Speaker 1: probably in a better situation than they were with any

1762
01:32:01,360 --> 01:32:03,680
Speaker 1: of the guys after him, Um Tayson Hill. You can

1763
01:32:03,720 --> 01:32:07,479
Speaker 1: make an argument in the opposite direction, but this is

1764
01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:11,120
Speaker 1: this is how important a quarterback is. Well, and they were.

1765
01:32:11,200 --> 01:32:13,760
Speaker 1: You know, they basically go into the off season with

1766
01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:17,439
Speaker 1: similar questions they had last offseason, and it's one of

1767
01:32:17,439 --> 01:32:20,000
Speaker 1: the bigger off seasons in the NFC. And I don't

1768
01:32:20,080 --> 01:32:22,720
Speaker 1: think that the wise maneuver would be to settle with

1769
01:32:22,880 --> 01:32:24,840
Speaker 1: this same group of quarterbacks. I mean, I don't you know,

1770
01:32:24,920 --> 01:32:27,040
Speaker 1: it's not gonna be easy to find someone else at

1771
01:32:27,080 --> 01:32:29,760
Speaker 1: this point, as the Russell Wilson's don't get traded in X,

1772
01:32:29,880 --> 01:32:32,240
Speaker 1: Y and Z. But I mean, from a Saints angle,

1773
01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:35,040
Speaker 1: you'd have to say, Sean Payton did an awesome job

1774
01:32:35,120 --> 01:32:38,759
Speaker 1: this year. They they other coaching and other coaching staffs

1775
01:32:38,760 --> 01:32:41,080
Speaker 1: would have crumbled with what was what they faced, but

1776
01:32:41,240 --> 01:32:43,559
Speaker 1: they but they cannot go do all of this again

1777
01:32:43,640 --> 01:32:46,840
Speaker 1: next year with with completely depleted cast of characters on

1778
01:32:46,960 --> 01:32:49,680
Speaker 1: offense and a clown car of quarterbacks who are not

1779
01:32:49,840 --> 01:32:53,840
Speaker 1: ultimately the right guy. I agree with you, clown Car.

1780
01:32:53,920 --> 01:32:56,280
Speaker 1: I guess it is a little strong because Winston was okay.

1781
01:32:56,400 --> 01:32:58,759
Speaker 1: He wasn't terrible before he got hurt. He had moments,

1782
01:32:58,800 --> 01:33:01,519
Speaker 1: for sure, But I I tend to agree with you

1783
01:33:01,640 --> 01:33:04,280
Speaker 1: that I think they're going to Peyton is gonna certainly,

1784
01:33:04,320 --> 01:33:05,760
Speaker 1: I think kick the tires and see if he can

1785
01:33:05,880 --> 01:33:08,080
Speaker 1: upgrade the position, because to work this hard to get

1786
01:33:08,120 --> 01:33:10,000
Speaker 1: to nine and eight, I don't know. There's that kind

1787
01:33:10,040 --> 01:33:11,840
Speaker 1: of a standard that they've set in New Orleans that

1788
01:33:11,840 --> 01:33:14,120
Speaker 1: they viewed themselves as a team that should be in

1789
01:33:14,200 --> 01:33:16,080
Speaker 1: contention for the Super Bowl every year, and they and

1790
01:33:16,200 --> 01:33:19,400
Speaker 1: they weren't. Camara by the way, thirty carries for a

1791
01:33:19,640 --> 01:33:21,519
Speaker 1: D and forty six are that that is not very

1792
01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:24,800
Speaker 1: That's not the typical Camara workload that he's had in

1793
01:33:24,880 --> 01:33:28,280
Speaker 1: the past. I wonder what his workload will look like

1794
01:33:28,640 --> 01:33:30,600
Speaker 1: going forward if they see him as that type of

1795
01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:32,360
Speaker 1: let's use them as a bell cow or did they

1796
01:33:32,400 --> 01:33:34,880
Speaker 1: want to get the offense moving in a different direction

1797
01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:36,680
Speaker 1: where they could use them the way they did with

1798
01:33:36,840 --> 01:33:39,920
Speaker 1: Drew brees More. That will be interesting to see anything

1799
01:33:40,040 --> 01:33:42,080
Speaker 1: on the Falcons before we kind of closed the book

1800
01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:44,679
Speaker 1: on their season. Chook. We give credit to Russell Gauge

1801
01:33:44,720 --> 01:33:47,360
Speaker 1: for having a nice game today, put together highlight play,

1802
01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:49,360
Speaker 1: a little hurdle over a defender to pick up some

1803
01:33:49,439 --> 01:33:51,560
Speaker 1: extra yards. He looked good in the box score. I

1804
01:33:51,640 --> 01:33:53,559
Speaker 1: think season long the guy that stood out to any

1805
01:33:53,560 --> 01:33:55,200
Speaker 1: more than anything. And you can talk about Kyle Pitts

1806
01:33:55,320 --> 01:33:58,160
Speaker 1: than he was, you know, the top five pick. That's

1807
01:33:58,200 --> 01:34:00,560
Speaker 1: what you're expecting from somebody like him. I thought A. J.

1808
01:34:00,760 --> 01:34:03,400
Speaker 1: Terrell took a ton of big steps in his second season. Um,

1809
01:34:03,520 --> 01:34:06,080
Speaker 1: the next gen stats love him. I mean, he's he's

1810
01:34:06,080 --> 01:34:08,240
Speaker 1: a stud in that department and I think he's on

1811
01:34:08,360 --> 01:34:10,519
Speaker 1: the course to to be a name that you're gonna

1812
01:34:10,720 --> 01:34:12,600
Speaker 1: pay attention to in years to come, as long as

1813
01:34:12,640 --> 01:34:14,960
Speaker 1: they can figure out some other things, because he's developed

1814
01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:17,360
Speaker 1: into a pretty solid corner only a second year. So

1815
01:34:17,640 --> 01:34:19,360
Speaker 1: there's some positives. And I love the way they played

1816
01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:21,240
Speaker 1: for Arthur Smith this year. It's just that they didn't

1817
01:34:21,320 --> 01:34:23,280
Speaker 1: quite have the talent to be able to get over

1818
01:34:23,280 --> 01:34:25,040
Speaker 1: the humping into the playoffs. If they spend an off

1819
01:34:25,040 --> 01:34:27,160
Speaker 1: season adding some talent, and this might be a team

1820
01:34:27,200 --> 01:34:29,200
Speaker 1: to watch out for, And of course you have to

1821
01:34:29,200 --> 01:34:32,080
Speaker 1: answer quarterback long term, but we'll across that bridge more

1822
01:34:32,200 --> 01:34:35,000
Speaker 1: on ESPN reported they want Matt Ryan back and that

1823
01:34:35,080 --> 01:34:38,320
Speaker 1: they're planning to bring him back. I tend to, you know,

1824
01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:42,040
Speaker 1: write these reports on you know, January ninth and pencil.

1825
01:34:42,439 --> 01:34:45,000
Speaker 1: It's almost like sending a message of like, what, okay,

1826
01:34:45,240 --> 01:34:47,920
Speaker 1: we're here, We're behind you, Matt Ryan Um. But that

1827
01:34:48,080 --> 01:34:49,960
Speaker 1: it kind of makes sense to me because just because

1828
01:34:49,960 --> 01:34:52,479
Speaker 1: it's a pain that they could add a rookie with him,

1829
01:34:52,680 --> 01:34:54,160
Speaker 1: and it'd be a pain to get rid of him,

1830
01:34:54,160 --> 01:34:55,880
Speaker 1: and I think he played pretty well this year. Well,

1831
01:34:55,920 --> 01:34:58,880
Speaker 1: the financials make it tougher than some have expected to

1832
01:34:59,000 --> 01:35:01,160
Speaker 1: just move on from him. And it should also be

1833
01:35:01,280 --> 01:35:03,200
Speaker 1: added here and maybe we'll get him on the show

1834
01:35:03,320 --> 01:35:07,200
Speaker 1: sooner rather than later. But Steve Weisch had speculated this

1835
01:35:07,320 --> 01:35:09,560
Speaker 1: past week that Calvin Ridley might be looking for a

1836
01:35:09,640 --> 01:35:12,000
Speaker 1: fresh start after this year where he missed most of

1837
01:35:12,080 --> 01:35:15,479
Speaker 1: the season with what was termed his mental health issues.

1838
01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:19,080
Speaker 1: So a lot of stuff to figure out with the Falcons.

1839
01:35:19,160 --> 01:35:21,200
Speaker 1: The Saints, yes, they have a lot to figure out too,

1840
01:35:21,280 --> 01:35:23,280
Speaker 1: but they you know, they go out with their heads

1841
01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:25,840
Speaker 1: held high. Let's take a break and then hit one

1842
01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:29,960
Speaker 1: more game with Shookie shotgun snap locked down a left sideline.

1843
01:35:29,960 --> 01:35:32,920
Speaker 1: Evan just there, he's got it. Let's touchdown. Number two.

1844
01:35:33,200 --> 01:35:43,719
Speaker 1: That's touchdown? Are my goodness, that doesn't sound like Jeane

1845
01:35:43,760 --> 01:35:49,880
Speaker 1: decker Hoff, does it anybody? I I did not think

1846
01:35:49,880 --> 01:35:55,479
Speaker 1: it sounded like I'm saying what definitely wasn't him. But

1847
01:35:55,600 --> 01:35:58,479
Speaker 1: maybe something popped up for old Jean today. You know

1848
01:35:59,120 --> 01:36:03,000
Speaker 1: a lot of COVID sub doubts lately, w f U s.

1849
01:36:03,680 --> 01:36:08,240
Speaker 1: The call came from whoever it was. Tom Brady put

1850
01:36:08,320 --> 01:36:14,240
Speaker 1: the finishing touches on another fantastically successful season, both individually

1851
01:36:14,920 --> 01:36:18,560
Speaker 1: and for his team, throwing three touchdown passes in a

1852
01:36:19,439 --> 01:36:23,400
Speaker 1: seventeen win over the Panthers, who started three and oh

1853
01:36:23,880 --> 01:36:28,200
Speaker 1: finished five and twelve. But Matt Rules coming back. That's

1854
01:36:28,200 --> 01:36:32,320
Speaker 1: what we're here in Chookie. You're not gonna find. You

1855
01:36:32,360 --> 01:36:34,040
Speaker 1: can turn me a hater, you can tell me or whatever.

1856
01:36:34,120 --> 01:36:35,439
Speaker 1: I am not a fan of Matt Rule. And I

1857
01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:38,320
Speaker 1: think that the potential that was within this team, which

1858
01:36:38,320 --> 01:36:40,479
Speaker 1: really began the off season with the same Donald experience

1859
01:36:40,640 --> 01:36:44,240
Speaker 1: experiment which became an experience, uh, and choosing to go

1860
01:36:44,360 --> 01:36:46,240
Speaker 1: that route over you know, I don't know, spending your

1861
01:36:46,240 --> 01:36:48,240
Speaker 1: first round pick on a guy like Justin Fields then

1862
01:36:48,920 --> 01:36:51,840
Speaker 1: into this season and all the dysfunction they had offensively

1863
01:36:51,920 --> 01:36:55,559
Speaker 1: and how Donald clearly wasn't the guy um and wasting

1864
01:36:55,600 --> 01:36:58,240
Speaker 1: a defense that played really well at times. It just

1865
01:36:58,520 --> 01:37:01,680
Speaker 1: the combined pro ducked was not up to standard and

1866
01:37:01,760 --> 01:37:04,000
Speaker 1: not it didn't fit for a guy in his second

1867
01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:07,360
Speaker 1: year who came in pretty highly touted and spoke, you know,

1868
01:37:07,439 --> 01:37:09,960
Speaker 1: all the platitudes about building the program and we're gonna

1869
01:37:10,040 --> 01:37:12,040
Speaker 1: do it the right way and everything else. It hasn't,

1870
01:37:12,280 --> 01:37:14,040
Speaker 1: you know, show to the field. And having said all

1871
01:37:14,040 --> 01:37:16,040
Speaker 1: of that, they had a seven nothing lead after the

1872
01:37:16,120 --> 01:37:18,680
Speaker 1: first quarter in this game. They were playing pretty hard.

1873
01:37:18,720 --> 01:37:20,160
Speaker 1: It's not like they quit on the guy. It's just

1874
01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:22,840
Speaker 1: that the product over the entire season is just not

1875
01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:24,479
Speaker 1: enough for me. I think he should be gone. But

1876
01:37:24,560 --> 01:37:27,160
Speaker 1: if he's coming back, he's coming back. And enjoy that.

1877
01:37:27,400 --> 01:37:31,479
Speaker 1: Panthers fans and whoever you have at quarterbacks, let's spend

1878
01:37:31,520 --> 01:37:33,800
Speaker 1: to the Bucks here. Because they finished thirteen and four,

1879
01:37:33,920 --> 01:37:37,400
Speaker 1: they won the South. They will host the Eagles. Uh

1880
01:37:37,560 --> 01:37:39,800
Speaker 1: next week. I think that is the plumb game that

1881
01:37:39,960 --> 01:37:42,360
Speaker 1: any high seed wanted. You wanted to get the Eagles,

1882
01:37:42,400 --> 01:37:43,880
Speaker 1: who I think are going to be out of their depth.

1883
01:37:44,320 --> 01:37:47,840
Speaker 1: Uh next weekend. Uh, and Uh, this is a team

1884
01:37:47,920 --> 01:37:51,400
Speaker 1: that you have to give him credit. Mark because last

1885
01:37:51,479 --> 01:37:54,280
Speaker 1: month when they lose nine zip to the Saints and

1886
01:37:54,400 --> 01:37:56,760
Speaker 1: they lose half their offense to injury over the course

1887
01:37:56,800 --> 01:38:00,280
Speaker 1: of three hours. No, were they dominant over the next

1888
01:38:00,360 --> 01:38:02,320
Speaker 1: three weeks. Did they almost get beat by the Jets? Sure?

1889
01:38:02,600 --> 01:38:05,280
Speaker 1: Did they lose Antonio Brown and that turned into a circus. Sure,

1890
01:38:05,400 --> 01:38:07,519
Speaker 1: but they closed and they stuck the landing by winning

1891
01:38:07,560 --> 01:38:10,400
Speaker 1: three straight to put themselves in good position here. Yeah,

1892
01:38:10,479 --> 01:38:13,200
Speaker 1: it's the Tom Brady experience too. I you know, rewatching

1893
01:38:13,240 --> 01:38:15,760
Speaker 1: that Jets game, just what he did at the end

1894
01:38:15,800 --> 01:38:17,360
Speaker 1: of that in that march and the way that they

1895
01:38:17,400 --> 01:38:20,680
Speaker 1: won that affair. It just reminds you that the ecosystem

1896
01:38:20,760 --> 01:38:23,200
Speaker 1: is going to be different with Tom Brady running the show. Uh,

1897
01:38:23,280 --> 01:38:26,880
Speaker 1: they're a low drama operation. They overcome this kind of stuff.

1898
01:38:27,200 --> 01:38:30,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if I see them quite as starry

1899
01:38:31,520 --> 01:38:33,439
Speaker 1: um a prospect in the playoffs as I did a

1900
01:38:33,479 --> 01:38:36,920
Speaker 1: couple and even injuries aside. Just something about them feels

1901
01:38:36,920 --> 01:38:39,720
Speaker 1: a little bit often times, but um, I don't know.

1902
01:38:39,920 --> 01:38:41,800
Speaker 1: I mean, they find a way like what you're getting

1903
01:38:41,880 --> 01:38:44,680
Speaker 1: Rob Gronkowski putting up a hundred and thirty yards I

1904
01:38:44,800 --> 01:38:47,000
Speaker 1: I to me, it's like anything could happen in these

1905
01:38:47,040 --> 01:38:50,479
Speaker 1: playoffs because there is no true dominant team. Um, I

1906
01:38:50,560 --> 01:38:52,280
Speaker 1: don't love the idea of them having to go into

1907
01:38:52,360 --> 01:38:55,960
Speaker 1: Green Bay, for instance, But outside of that, you know,

1908
01:38:56,280 --> 01:38:57,720
Speaker 1: I think that this is a team that's going to

1909
01:38:57,840 --> 01:39:00,679
Speaker 1: hit the NFC title game well ground. I mean, having

1910
01:39:00,760 --> 01:39:03,960
Speaker 1: that big of a game, what was it, one thirty seven,

1911
01:39:04,280 --> 01:39:06,960
Speaker 1: so that puts him at about eight hundred yards for

1912
01:39:07,040 --> 01:39:09,800
Speaker 1: the season over. I mean, that is outrageous at his

1913
01:39:11,240 --> 01:39:13,479
Speaker 1: age at this point, and the fact that in this

1914
01:39:13,720 --> 01:39:17,599
Speaker 1: game they were down seven to three. I checked late

1915
01:39:17,640 --> 01:39:19,400
Speaker 1: in the second quarter. There was about a minute to

1916
01:39:19,439 --> 01:39:22,040
Speaker 1: go in the first half. At that point in the game,

1917
01:39:22,080 --> 01:39:25,360
Speaker 1: the Panthers had twelve first downs and the Bucks had

1918
01:39:25,439 --> 01:39:28,040
Speaker 1: to The Panthers were putting it on him. It was

1919
01:39:28,120 --> 01:39:31,439
Speaker 1: like a hundred and ninety yards to forty and I'm thinking, like,

1920
01:39:31,640 --> 01:39:34,120
Speaker 1: what a terrible way to go into the playoffs. And

1921
01:39:34,160 --> 01:39:35,800
Speaker 1: then I look up at the end and it's forty

1922
01:39:35,840 --> 01:39:37,960
Speaker 1: one to seventeen. And that's been kind of the story

1923
01:39:38,040 --> 01:39:41,600
Speaker 1: of these Tom Brady Buccaneers in general since he's gotten there. Like,

1924
01:39:41,680 --> 01:39:44,400
Speaker 1: you'll have halfs like that and then the avalanche will

1925
01:39:44,400 --> 01:39:46,599
Speaker 1: come hit you and it doesn't matter. That's Ciol Grayson,

1926
01:39:46,760 --> 01:39:48,600
Speaker 1: who's been really good for them, gets knocked out with

1927
01:39:48,640 --> 01:39:51,679
Speaker 1: a hamstring injury, and you without JPP, and you're without

1928
01:39:51,760 --> 01:39:53,800
Speaker 1: Jack Barrett, and you're without Lavonte David and those guys

1929
01:39:53,800 --> 01:39:55,479
Speaker 1: will matter in the playoffs. But like at the end

1930
01:39:55,520 --> 01:39:57,280
Speaker 1: of the day, they put up forty one, it's like

1931
01:39:57,400 --> 01:40:00,280
Speaker 1: it's outrageous. That's the thing is they they tend to

1932
01:40:00,320 --> 01:40:02,960
Speaker 1: sleepwalk at times and then when they wake up, your toast.

1933
01:40:03,160 --> 01:40:05,960
Speaker 1: No matter. You know, unless you've got a four touchdown lead,

1934
01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:07,920
Speaker 1: you're pretty much toast. I mean, he's completing passes to

1935
01:40:07,960 --> 01:40:11,479
Speaker 1: Brashad Perriman and Ty Johnson and Cameron Brandon, Cashawn Vaughn,

1936
01:40:11,640 --> 01:40:14,360
Speaker 1: Scotty Miller on a touchdown run. And that's the thing

1937
01:40:14,880 --> 01:40:16,960
Speaker 1: you talk about all these injuries and how it might

1938
01:40:17,040 --> 01:40:19,200
Speaker 1: diminish their standing going into the playoffs. So I don't

1939
01:40:19,200 --> 01:40:20,519
Speaker 1: know if they can do it. They're missing a lot

1940
01:40:20,600 --> 01:40:23,919
Speaker 1: of guys. It doesn't matter with Tom Brady at the controls.

1941
01:40:23,960 --> 01:40:26,240
Speaker 1: All you have to do is do your individual job.

1942
01:40:26,360 --> 01:40:28,960
Speaker 1: To borrow the phrase from the Patriots, do your job.

1943
01:40:29,160 --> 01:40:32,120
Speaker 1: He's gonna find you, and more likely than not, you're

1944
01:40:32,120 --> 01:40:34,200
Speaker 1: gonna score touchdowns. And they're still gonna be a really

1945
01:40:34,280 --> 01:40:37,519
Speaker 1: tough out, so you know going into the postseason, now, yeah,

1946
01:40:37,560 --> 01:40:38,800
Speaker 1: this is how you want to go in, of course,

1947
01:40:38,840 --> 01:40:40,719
Speaker 1: with a win like this. But this, more than anything,

1948
01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:43,120
Speaker 1: demonstrates to me that I don't care who they have

1949
01:40:43,200 --> 01:40:45,080
Speaker 1: out there. As long as twelves back there, they got

1950
01:40:45,120 --> 01:40:47,960
Speaker 1: a really good shot. This cannot be hit hard enough.

1951
01:40:48,160 --> 01:40:49,840
Speaker 1: And I know we're we're kind of hitting on it

1952
01:40:49,880 --> 01:40:51,280
Speaker 1: a little bit here, but I'm not gonna hit on

1953
01:40:51,360 --> 01:40:54,639
Speaker 1: it directly. Tom Brady is five and a half years

1954
01:40:54,680 --> 01:40:58,719
Speaker 1: away from turning fifty, and he just completed a season

1955
01:40:59,080 --> 01:41:02,160
Speaker 1: where he set a career or high in his twenty

1956
01:41:02,520 --> 01:41:07,240
Speaker 1: second season twenty first season by throwing for fifty yards.

1957
01:41:08,080 --> 01:41:13,040
Speaker 1: He threw forty three touchdown passes. He is, depending who

1958
01:41:13,120 --> 01:41:16,360
Speaker 1: you talk to, the favorite or one of the favorites

1959
01:41:16,680 --> 01:41:19,800
Speaker 1: for sure to win the m v P. He is

1960
01:41:20,080 --> 01:41:25,759
Speaker 1: forty four years old, and I just again, for me personally,

1961
01:41:25,880 --> 01:41:28,240
Speaker 1: my fandom like him getting away from the Patriots has

1962
01:41:28,240 --> 01:41:30,719
Speaker 1: allowed me to like not just wallow in the misery

1963
01:41:30,760 --> 01:41:33,400
Speaker 1: of him refusing to get old, and now I just

1964
01:41:33,600 --> 01:41:36,160
Speaker 1: get to enjoy it more because it's like, man, he

1965
01:41:36,320 --> 01:41:40,040
Speaker 1: just he's doing it again. And that's why like Shook, say,

1966
01:41:40,080 --> 01:41:42,960
Speaker 1: and even with all these injuries, if you have him

1967
01:41:43,040 --> 01:41:44,800
Speaker 1: back there and no one knows how to play in

1968
01:41:44,840 --> 01:41:47,280
Speaker 1: the playoffs more than Tom Brady and you just do

1969
01:41:47,439 --> 01:41:50,240
Speaker 1: your job, Yes, I absolutely could see them being a

1970
01:41:50,320 --> 01:41:54,360
Speaker 1: Final four team in a few weeks. Hashtag gradual decline

1971
01:41:55,439 --> 01:41:59,080
Speaker 1: in the in the OL. The offensive line, which is

1972
01:41:59,439 --> 01:42:02,160
Speaker 1: among you not the best in the league, is healthy,

1973
01:42:02,560 --> 01:42:05,080
Speaker 1: and so that's really important. One very quick point, just

1974
01:42:05,080 --> 01:42:07,200
Speaker 1: because there's so much news out there today with all

1975
01:42:07,200 --> 01:42:11,160
Speaker 1: these reports, I do wonder if Matt rules percent back.

1976
01:42:11,360 --> 01:42:14,320
Speaker 1: J Glazer reported that he'll be back if he hires

1977
01:42:14,360 --> 01:42:18,240
Speaker 1: a rock star offensive coordinator. Are our guys said that

1978
01:42:18,600 --> 01:42:22,479
Speaker 1: the search essentially for a rock star offensive coordinator is coming,

1979
01:42:22,600 --> 01:42:24,960
Speaker 1: like he's gonna hire maybe a former head coach like

1980
01:42:25,280 --> 01:42:28,559
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien was one name thrown out there. I don't

1981
01:42:28,600 --> 01:42:30,840
Speaker 1: think he would be a rock star. Um, he does

1982
01:42:30,920 --> 01:42:33,280
Speaker 1: have a great relationship with the Shawn Watson, a quarterback

1983
01:42:33,320 --> 01:42:37,160
Speaker 1: that they're going to pursue. You wonder if that's a factor.

1984
01:42:37,560 --> 01:42:40,120
Speaker 1: But the way Glazer said it, like if if his

1985
01:42:41,240 --> 01:42:45,679
Speaker 1: status is dependent on like what happens with this coordinator higher,

1986
01:42:45,760 --> 01:42:49,080
Speaker 1: I I don't think his status is a percent guaranteed here.

1987
01:42:49,600 --> 01:42:52,160
Speaker 1: I gotta give David elei ahead to noted Panthers fan

1988
01:42:52,640 --> 01:42:56,040
Speaker 1: because the Bill O'Brien thing. He said, well, if they

1989
01:42:56,120 --> 01:42:58,680
Speaker 1: hire Bill O'Brien, they're essentially just hiring their interim head

1990
01:42:58,720 --> 01:43:02,400
Speaker 1: coach rights a state of things. That's that's what you're

1991
01:43:02,400 --> 01:43:05,840
Speaker 1: setting yourself up for. How many star offensive coordinators are there?

1992
01:43:05,880 --> 01:43:08,200
Speaker 1: And I think they thought they had that with Joe Brady. Yeah,

1993
01:43:08,240 --> 01:43:11,200
Speaker 1: they just fired one right and I And for people

1994
01:43:11,240 --> 01:43:16,800
Speaker 1: who have lost the track of the Bill O'Brien uh carousel. Uh.

1995
01:43:16,920 --> 01:43:20,200
Speaker 1: He is the offensive coordinator of Alabama, which is a

1996
01:43:20,320 --> 01:43:25,639
Speaker 1: celebrated and highly successful college football program, has a big game. Yeah.

1997
01:43:25,880 --> 01:43:29,040
Speaker 1: And Anna's interviewing for the Jaguars head coaching job as well.

1998
01:43:29,160 --> 01:43:31,799
Speaker 1: So he's the latest product of the Nick Saban coaching

1999
01:43:31,840 --> 01:43:36,600
Speaker 1: rehabilitation program. There you go, Shuock. We have reached the

2000
01:43:36,720 --> 01:43:38,720
Speaker 1: end of our time in the regular season with you.

2001
01:43:39,479 --> 01:43:41,760
Speaker 1: We will absolutely love to have you on the show

2002
01:43:42,280 --> 01:43:44,840
Speaker 1: uh down the stretch and throughout the off season. But

2003
01:43:44,960 --> 01:43:47,240
Speaker 1: we want to thank you again for the vital work

2004
01:43:47,320 --> 01:43:50,759
Speaker 1: you do for our program on these sundays, like filling

2005
01:43:50,840 --> 01:43:52,960
Speaker 1: in the gaps and not only just filling in the gaps,

2006
01:43:53,560 --> 01:43:56,160
Speaker 1: making the show better with your great analysis and uh

2007
01:43:56,600 --> 01:44:00,679
Speaker 1: genial attitude toward life. Genial. I like that. Thanks, guys,

2008
01:44:00,720 --> 01:44:02,840
Speaker 1: I appreciate you. It's been fun being on you know.

2009
01:44:02,920 --> 01:44:07,200
Speaker 1: I appreciate thanks for having me this whole season, filling

2010
01:44:07,280 --> 01:44:11,639
Speaker 1: that gap. I mean, he he overfills it. Got the pipe.

2011
01:44:11,720 --> 01:44:14,400
Speaker 1: Now he's got to get back to the gym because

2012
01:44:14,920 --> 01:44:20,200
Speaker 1: the pipe never rests there. He goes the pipe out

2013
01:44:20,280 --> 01:44:24,320
Speaker 1: the door. We continue on now. So we're going through things,

2014
01:44:24,400 --> 01:44:28,479
Speaker 1: we're checking boxes, we're talking playoff teams. How about two more?

2015
01:44:29,320 --> 01:44:33,559
Speaker 1: This game played on Saturday, Cowboys Eagles Dak Prescott next

2016
01:44:33,640 --> 01:44:36,720
Speaker 1: touchdown passed would be the single season records. And he's

2017
01:44:36,720 --> 01:44:39,719
Speaker 1: looking forward here throwing out to the left. It's caught

2018
01:44:39,840 --> 01:44:44,439
Speaker 1: into the insol touchdown. There it is. He finds Corey

2019
01:44:44,600 --> 01:44:48,760
Speaker 1: Clever at eight yard touchdown pass for Dak Prescott, his

2020
01:44:49,120 --> 01:44:53,519
Speaker 1: thirty seventh of the season. Do Dallas Cowboys single season

2021
01:44:53,720 --> 01:44:59,240
Speaker 1: record Westwood one with a call? There, Dak Prescott through

2022
01:44:59,800 --> 01:45:04,559
Speaker 1: a career high five touchdown passes and broke Romo's record there.

2023
01:45:05,120 --> 01:45:07,120
Speaker 1: He did it against Eagles backups. I should say, but

2024
01:45:07,320 --> 01:45:09,479
Speaker 1: it is what it is. Cedric Wilson and Dalton Dalton

2025
01:45:09,520 --> 01:45:13,280
Speaker 1: Schultz each had two touchdown catches, and the Cowboys closed

2026
01:45:13,280 --> 01:45:15,560
Speaker 1: out their regular season with their second fifty burger in

2027
01:45:15,680 --> 01:45:20,639
Speaker 1: three weeks against an overmatched Division foe. Final score fifty

2028
01:45:20,720 --> 01:45:25,800
Speaker 1: one against the Eagles. That a team that prioritize their

2029
01:45:25,840 --> 01:45:28,760
Speaker 1: health in the wild card round over a possible better

2030
01:45:29,680 --> 01:45:35,479
Speaker 1: playoffs seed. Now all that set that was a nice

2031
01:45:35,520 --> 01:45:36,960
Speaker 1: wind mark. I think you and I were on the

2032
01:45:37,040 --> 01:45:41,280
Speaker 1: same page on the Thursday preview show that even if

2033
01:45:41,320 --> 01:45:43,880
Speaker 1: the Cowboys didn't make a big change where they ended

2034
01:45:43,960 --> 01:45:46,080
Speaker 1: up and they are the number three seed, they will

2035
01:45:46,120 --> 01:45:47,960
Speaker 1: face the forty niners and what will be a very

2036
01:45:48,040 --> 01:45:51,000
Speaker 1: tough game for them. Uh to go into the playoffs

2037
01:45:51,200 --> 01:45:54,320
Speaker 1: on a high note. Uh, it helps even if it does.

2038
01:45:54,760 --> 01:45:56,840
Speaker 1: Like in the back of my head, for instance, keep

2039
01:45:56,920 --> 01:45:59,200
Speaker 1: me wondering, is this team like are they bullies? Can

2040
01:45:59,240 --> 01:46:01,439
Speaker 1: they just they phile on and beat up against these

2041
01:46:01,479 --> 01:46:03,920
Speaker 1: teams that are overmatched and then kind of cower a

2042
01:46:03,960 --> 01:46:07,559
Speaker 1: little bit against real competition, real competitions coming. We're gonna

2043
01:46:07,600 --> 01:46:10,080
Speaker 1: find out next week where the Cowboys really stand. Yeah,

2044
01:46:10,160 --> 01:46:14,000
Speaker 1: that'll be the asset test. But we basically ordered them,

2045
01:46:14,360 --> 01:46:17,960
Speaker 1: requested them to have an explosive finale, and they went

2046
01:46:18,040 --> 01:46:20,000
Speaker 1: and did exactly that. Now, I mean, look at the game.

2047
01:46:20,160 --> 01:46:22,680
Speaker 1: Some of these games where you've got people sitting, I

2048
01:46:22,760 --> 01:46:25,080
Speaker 1: get that that you know, this is not where we're

2049
01:46:25,120 --> 01:46:28,240
Speaker 1: gonna be a week from now. But it showed Dallas

2050
01:46:28,280 --> 01:46:31,360
Speaker 1: flexing their muscles, and to me, it does it does

2051
01:46:31,479 --> 01:46:33,800
Speaker 1: bring more faith until into their ceiling and what they

2052
01:46:33,840 --> 01:46:36,519
Speaker 1: can be. Um. I think there it's their defense too.

2053
01:46:36,600 --> 01:46:39,400
Speaker 1: They're just they're a balanced team. And we've talked about

2054
01:46:39,600 --> 01:46:41,559
Speaker 1: how we feel about the Rams going in the way

2055
01:46:41,640 --> 01:46:45,160
Speaker 1: they have, UM, the Cardinals fading fast like any one

2056
01:46:45,200 --> 01:46:47,720
Speaker 1: of these NFC teams that can go in and light up,

2057
01:46:47,920 --> 01:46:49,759
Speaker 1: light a team up. I don't care how it happened,

2058
01:46:49,920 --> 01:46:51,600
Speaker 1: the way that Dallas did it. It adds faith and

2059
01:46:51,760 --> 01:46:54,200
Speaker 1: I think that they're a dangerous opponent. I think they

2060
01:46:54,320 --> 01:46:57,960
Speaker 1: needed it for themselves because they said as much. Did.

2061
01:46:58,080 --> 01:47:02,000
Speaker 1: They just seem like a an a team that has

2062
01:47:02,120 --> 01:47:04,920
Speaker 1: some confidence issues. They're like too high or too low.

2063
01:47:05,080 --> 01:47:06,880
Speaker 1: You know, they say, well, don't get too high, too low.

2064
01:47:06,920 --> 01:47:08,640
Speaker 1: I mean that that's not that what the Cowboys are.

2065
01:47:08,880 --> 01:47:10,880
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones likes to get too high and they like

2066
01:47:11,000 --> 01:47:13,720
Speaker 1: to get too low. And you know, Dak Prescott did

2067
01:47:13,760 --> 01:47:15,360
Speaker 1: not want to say that he was having a slump

2068
01:47:15,479 --> 01:47:17,160
Speaker 1: or that he wasn't playing with confidence, but you could

2069
01:47:17,200 --> 01:47:18,920
Speaker 1: just see it on the field. And so I think

2070
01:47:19,360 --> 01:47:22,040
Speaker 1: they came out and did this because they felt it

2071
01:47:22,160 --> 01:47:25,040
Speaker 1: was necessary. You know, they played into the fourth quarter. Now,

2072
01:47:25,120 --> 01:47:29,280
Speaker 1: this game was tied seventeen ah late to that the

2073
01:47:29,360 --> 01:47:32,200
Speaker 1: Cowboys offense was incredible the whole game. That had nothing

2074
01:47:32,280 --> 01:47:34,080
Speaker 1: to do with the offense. They just had only had

2075
01:47:34,080 --> 01:47:36,360
Speaker 1: the ball three possessions at that point, and they didn't

2076
01:47:36,400 --> 01:47:38,360
Speaker 1: have Tyrann Smith and Tony Pollard and they didn't have

2077
01:47:38,439 --> 01:47:40,800
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons either, so they were a little shorthanded. But

2078
01:47:40,920 --> 01:47:45,240
Speaker 1: the Cowboys starting defense gave up seventeen pretty quick points

2079
01:47:45,240 --> 01:47:46,760
Speaker 1: and it looked like a game for a minute and

2080
01:47:47,000 --> 01:47:52,439
Speaker 1: until until they took over. Gardner Minshew started for Jalen Hurtz,

2081
01:47:52,920 --> 01:47:55,280
Speaker 1: and yes he did uh leave the team to some

2082
01:47:55,400 --> 01:47:57,519
Speaker 1: scoring drives Early kept him in the mix. I did

2083
01:47:57,680 --> 01:47:59,840
Speaker 1: like that story about me and show. I don't know

2084
01:47:59,840 --> 01:48:02,479
Speaker 1: if you guys saw this that after the game against

2085
01:48:02,479 --> 01:48:06,000
Speaker 1: the Jets, he went into the coach's office. It was like, Coach,

2086
01:48:07,240 --> 01:48:09,519
Speaker 1: I deserve the ball. I should be the starter of

2087
01:48:09,560 --> 01:48:13,240
Speaker 1: this team. I thought that was adorable. I love this guy.

2088
01:48:13,680 --> 01:48:16,760
Speaker 1: Look at he is a dangerous quarterback. I know that. Like, well,

2089
01:48:16,800 --> 01:48:18,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, if you're being serious, then it's an

2090
01:48:18,960 --> 01:48:21,920
Speaker 1: amazing move because like it's one thing to be the

2091
01:48:21,960 --> 01:48:24,439
Speaker 1: backup quarterback and do your job. But like Jalen Hurts

2092
01:48:24,479 --> 01:48:27,200
Speaker 1: probably saw that story and he was like, what what,

2093
01:48:27,800 --> 01:48:32,720
Speaker 1: it's a strange that's a strange one. But he's got

2094
01:48:32,880 --> 01:48:35,120
Speaker 1: he's got too much charisma. He can't be held down.

2095
01:48:35,280 --> 01:48:38,800
Speaker 1: That's Gardner Minshew. I kind of like their backups. They

2096
01:48:38,840 --> 01:48:43,719
Speaker 1: had some fights. Backups. Huntley jacent. Huntley was fun. Tyree Jackson,

2097
01:48:43,880 --> 01:48:46,720
Speaker 1: who was when he used to be a quarterback, was

2098
01:48:46,800 --> 01:48:51,040
Speaker 1: kind of fun. Quaz Quiz Watkins is fun. And they actually,

2099
01:48:51,080 --> 01:48:53,680
Speaker 1: I think got some use out of this looking at

2100
01:48:53,680 --> 01:48:55,640
Speaker 1: all of these guys. They also had twelve players on

2101
01:48:55,680 --> 01:48:58,760
Speaker 1: the COVID list. I think they strategically told a lot

2102
01:48:58,800 --> 01:49:01,080
Speaker 1: of guys to take that test last Monday so that

2103
01:49:01,160 --> 01:49:03,880
Speaker 1: they could get their COVID list designation out of the way,

2104
01:49:04,000 --> 01:49:09,880
Speaker 1: which is just a bizarre thing that you have to strategize. Coach,

2105
01:49:10,880 --> 01:49:13,479
Speaker 1: these fellows believe in me, and now I ask you

2106
01:49:14,080 --> 01:49:17,599
Speaker 1: to believe in me. Put me in coach, I will

2107
01:49:17,680 --> 01:49:20,240
Speaker 1: lead you to the promise. Well, it didn't work. It

2108
01:49:20,400 --> 01:49:23,320
Speaker 1: depends how he put it, because yeah, I think I

2109
01:49:23,400 --> 01:49:26,080
Speaker 1: think that could be kind of annoying. I've always held

2110
01:49:26,160 --> 01:49:30,280
Speaker 1: it against Drew Bledsoe a little bit um the report

2111
01:49:30,360 --> 01:49:33,479
Speaker 1: of how how hard he kind of uh went went

2112
01:49:33,600 --> 01:49:35,920
Speaker 1: into the coach's room and tried to get Tom Brady

2113
01:49:35,960 --> 01:49:40,559
Speaker 1: out of there, you know, and skip, I reckon Jalen

2114
01:49:40,640 --> 01:49:43,240
Speaker 1: might feel a little bit sore about this, but I

2115
01:49:43,320 --> 01:49:45,439
Speaker 1: gotta stick to my guns and tell you how I feel.

2116
01:49:45,479 --> 01:49:47,840
Speaker 1: And I'm the best man for this job. Give me

2117
01:49:47,880 --> 01:49:50,040
Speaker 1: the ball I want to. I would like to um

2118
01:49:50,240 --> 01:49:52,639
Speaker 1: see actual footage of how this went, because it's turning

2119
01:49:52,720 --> 01:49:55,480
Speaker 1: into a folly very quickly. That's I'm reading a transcript

2120
01:49:55,760 --> 01:49:59,680
Speaker 1: from I in the sky within Nick Sirianni's office. All right,

2121
01:50:00,800 --> 01:50:02,519
Speaker 1: and it's back by the way. That's a nice little

2122
01:50:02,560 --> 01:50:04,800
Speaker 1: tight end duo you got with Salts playing so well

2123
01:50:05,040 --> 01:50:07,639
Speaker 1: and your guy Cedric Wilson Dan had a monster game

2124
01:50:09,560 --> 01:50:12,479
Speaker 1: offense on paper, They're amazing. Do I have a Cedric

2125
01:50:12,520 --> 01:50:14,760
Speaker 1: Wilson connection with the UNWA? I don't know. One show

2126
01:50:14,880 --> 01:50:18,560
Speaker 1: you were just like this guy, I look, I'm fascinated.

2127
01:50:18,600 --> 01:50:22,000
Speaker 1: I'm always fascinated by the Cowboys. I like following America's

2128
01:50:22,040 --> 01:50:25,400
Speaker 1: team through uh the good times and bad. They're just compelling.

2129
01:50:25,800 --> 01:50:29,519
Speaker 1: They have such a wide variance in terms of how

2130
01:50:29,600 --> 01:50:32,360
Speaker 1: this is gonna play out. They could meekly go out

2131
01:50:32,680 --> 01:50:34,920
Speaker 1: next week and so the worst draw wasn't it. This

2132
01:50:35,080 --> 01:50:37,400
Speaker 1: was the hardest man, I think you possibly had. Yeah,

2133
01:50:37,400 --> 01:50:39,040
Speaker 1: I think so. I think they could lose thirty one

2134
01:50:39,120 --> 01:50:42,200
Speaker 1: to seventeen next week. I think they could drop a

2135
01:50:42,240 --> 01:50:44,880
Speaker 1: forty burger that wouldn't send me either in advance, but

2136
01:50:45,160 --> 01:50:47,200
Speaker 1: and and make a deep, deep playoff run. I think

2137
01:50:47,200 --> 01:50:50,000
Speaker 1: could go either way for America's team. I will tell

2138
01:50:50,000 --> 01:50:52,720
Speaker 1: you this, It's gonna do a big number that game.

2139
01:50:52,920 --> 01:50:54,240
Speaker 1: A lot of people are gonna want to watch the

2140
01:50:54,320 --> 01:50:57,760
Speaker 1: forty Niners and Cowboys. All right, let's uh move on now.

2141
01:50:58,320 --> 01:51:02,280
Speaker 1: Uh so, yes, Cowboys, and I should Yes the Eagles not.

2142
01:51:02,640 --> 01:51:04,960
Speaker 1: You don't only kill the Eagles obviously because they rested

2143
01:51:05,000 --> 01:51:06,400
Speaker 1: a bunch of people. Not a great way to go

2144
01:51:06,479 --> 01:51:08,679
Speaker 1: into the playoffs. Never be the team with the winning record,

2145
01:51:09,160 --> 01:51:11,560
Speaker 1: uh the whole season, at least the season ending with

2146
01:51:11,640 --> 01:51:13,800
Speaker 1: the team having a winning record. They now go to

2147
01:51:13,920 --> 01:51:18,120
Speaker 1: Tampa and we'll see how that goes. But I'm feeling

2148
01:51:18,200 --> 01:51:20,720
Speaker 1: pretty good about who I might pick is my lock

2149
01:51:20,840 --> 01:51:23,040
Speaker 1: next week. I'll just leave it as that, all right.

2150
01:51:23,640 --> 01:51:26,960
Speaker 1: Let's now move to Detroit where the green Bay Packers

2151
01:51:27,040 --> 01:51:28,920
Speaker 1: were looking to win their four teen the game. But

2152
01:51:29,120 --> 01:51:33,439
Speaker 1: the Lions, they don't play man, they don't play love.

2153
01:51:33,520 --> 01:51:35,760
Speaker 1: Boards out of the gun, there's the snap Love bat

2154
01:51:35,960 --> 01:51:38,479
Speaker 1: love sex and throws over the middle. It is intercepted

2155
01:51:38,520 --> 01:51:41,960
Speaker 1: by the Lions, intercepted down at the forty three yard line.

2156
01:51:42,560 --> 01:51:45,040
Speaker 1: Lions come up with a pick, and that's gonna do it.

2157
01:51:46,080 --> 01:51:53,320
Speaker 1: Tracy Walker with that football. Dan Miller with a call

2158
01:51:53,560 --> 01:51:56,400
Speaker 1: w x y T. Aaron Rodgers threw two touchdown passes

2159
01:51:56,439 --> 01:51:59,000
Speaker 1: in the first half, set out the second half with

2160
01:51:59,160 --> 01:52:02,840
Speaker 1: nothing at stake. The Lions getting that interception at the

2161
01:52:02,920 --> 01:52:06,040
Speaker 1: end of the game, beat the top seeded Packers thirty

2162
01:52:06,120 --> 01:52:09,240
Speaker 1: seven to thirty. That was Jordan's Love who threw the pick.

2163
01:52:09,320 --> 01:52:12,400
Speaker 1: He threw two interceptions late in the game, but Green

2164
01:52:12,439 --> 01:52:17,840
Speaker 1: Bay's play oppositioning doesn't change. Unfortunately, Mark the Lions, you know,

2165
01:52:17,920 --> 01:52:19,680
Speaker 1: one of those type of games, great way to end

2166
01:52:19,720 --> 01:52:22,400
Speaker 1: your season. But if they just would have done what

2167
01:52:22,439 --> 01:52:24,280
Speaker 1: they were supposed to do and get beat by the Packers.

2168
01:52:24,320 --> 01:52:26,479
Speaker 1: Whoever the Packers are playing, they would have the number

2169
01:52:26,520 --> 01:52:29,799
Speaker 1: one overall pick because of what the Jaguars did. Instead,

2170
01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:33,080
Speaker 1: they stay it to k s Sara, Sara, you know what.

2171
01:52:33,240 --> 01:52:36,400
Speaker 1: I love it for him though, because they are playing

2172
01:52:36,520 --> 01:52:39,360
Speaker 1: so hard for Dan Campbell and they just put everything

2173
01:52:39,439 --> 01:52:43,360
Speaker 1: out there today. I mean, they emptied the trick play compendium.

2174
01:52:43,400 --> 01:52:46,840
Speaker 1: They used all sorts of trickery on gone green Bay

2175
01:52:46,960 --> 01:52:49,840
Speaker 1: and they they have gone for it on fourth down

2176
01:52:50,600 --> 01:52:52,920
Speaker 1: forty times this season, which is the fourth most in

2177
01:52:52,960 --> 01:52:57,400
Speaker 1: the league. Excuse me, they just like the market is

2178
01:52:57,520 --> 01:52:59,920
Speaker 1: choked up talking about the No, I just have this hit,

2179
01:53:02,160 --> 01:53:05,200
Speaker 1: uh they I mean it's another game like before where

2180
01:53:05,320 --> 01:53:07,360
Speaker 1: you know, Aaron Rodgers is out at halftime and Jordan's

2181
01:53:07,400 --> 01:53:10,040
Speaker 1: love looks, you know, like a non starter to me,

2182
01:53:10,240 --> 01:53:12,320
Speaker 1: he just just not have it. At this point, I

2183
01:53:12,360 --> 01:53:14,240
Speaker 1: thought it was important for Green Bay to get David

2184
01:53:14,280 --> 01:53:17,160
Speaker 1: Box tr some snaps um he left and went into

2185
01:53:17,240 --> 01:53:19,519
Speaker 1: the tent, but seemed fine. But I mean, just a

2186
01:53:19,560 --> 01:53:21,280
Speaker 1: little bit of playing time, he'll be huge for them

2187
01:53:21,320 --> 01:53:25,920
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. And did they have any Yeah. He

2188
01:53:26,040 --> 01:53:29,960
Speaker 1: did his press availability afterwards and downplayed it, but yeah,

2189
01:53:30,080 --> 01:53:32,759
Speaker 1: it was an injury. Yeah, but he seemed he seemed

2190
01:53:32,840 --> 01:53:36,519
Speaker 1: like unaffected by it. Later on Alman Ross st Brown.

2191
01:53:36,640 --> 01:53:38,280
Speaker 1: For the Lions, they have a star and I just

2192
01:53:38,439 --> 01:53:41,000
Speaker 1: I know that they lose out on the first overall pick,

2193
01:53:41,040 --> 01:53:43,680
Speaker 1: but you can see little pieces here and again I

2194
01:53:43,800 --> 01:53:46,040
Speaker 1: think that they have found the right coach. I mean,

2195
01:53:46,120 --> 01:53:48,040
Speaker 1: so it's I know the record is what it is,

2196
01:53:48,120 --> 01:53:50,120
Speaker 1: but they go into the off season with some optimism.

2197
01:53:51,320 --> 01:53:55,719
Speaker 1: Record for fourth down conversions NFL record Old Dan Campbell

2198
01:53:56,640 --> 01:53:59,439
Speaker 1: throwing caution to the wind. The Jaguars, unless they trade

2199
01:53:59,479 --> 01:54:01,759
Speaker 1: out of the pick, they won't be taking a quarterback obviously,

2200
01:54:01,920 --> 01:54:06,439
Speaker 1: so um if the Lions, if things hold, the Lions

2201
01:54:06,560 --> 01:54:09,200
Speaker 1: could have the pick of any quarterback. We'll get into

2202
01:54:09,240 --> 01:54:12,839
Speaker 1: all that as as things play out. This isn't supposed

2203
01:54:12,840 --> 01:54:15,000
Speaker 1: to be a great quarterback class, but nobody knows anything,

2204
01:54:15,120 --> 01:54:17,240
Speaker 1: especially this time of year. It's not till the draft

2205
01:54:17,320 --> 01:54:20,240
Speaker 1: process plays out that you really get a better idea

2206
01:54:20,280 --> 01:54:22,240
Speaker 1: of where the quarterback market's going to be. But it

2207
01:54:22,320 --> 01:54:25,120
Speaker 1: could be one of those and this effects like if

2208
01:54:25,160 --> 01:54:27,120
Speaker 1: you're Jets van to for instance, with two first round

2209
01:54:27,160 --> 01:54:29,640
Speaker 1: picks in the top fifteen, I hope this isn't one

2210
01:54:29,680 --> 01:54:33,320
Speaker 1: of those Eric Fisher Luke Jocal drafts. Nobody wants that now.

2211
01:54:33,480 --> 01:54:35,680
Speaker 1: People people like the talent. I think at the top

2212
01:54:35,720 --> 01:54:37,480
Speaker 1: of this draft a lot of defensive Maybe it's not

2213
01:54:37,560 --> 01:54:40,960
Speaker 1: a good quarterback classes as much, but anyway, so the

2214
01:54:41,000 --> 01:54:42,880
Speaker 1: Packers I don't and doesn't change. I don't know if

2215
01:54:42,880 --> 01:54:45,160
Speaker 1: you guys have any takes about the Packers to me.

2216
01:54:45,240 --> 01:54:46,840
Speaker 1: For instance, they're gonna still be number one of the

2217
01:54:46,880 --> 01:54:49,760
Speaker 1: power rankings. This doesn't change anything for me. And the

2218
01:54:49,840 --> 01:54:51,880
Speaker 1: fact that back dr got back on the field and

2219
01:54:51,960 --> 01:54:54,560
Speaker 1: got some reps as long as the knees holding up,

2220
01:54:54,920 --> 01:54:58,000
Speaker 1: that's all great too. Well. Josh Meyers to their starting center,

2221
01:54:58,080 --> 01:55:01,160
Speaker 1: so that's massive, and I think that's why Rodgers, you know,

2222
01:55:01,200 --> 01:55:03,840
Speaker 1: said he wanted to play. It is worth noting the

2223
01:55:03,880 --> 01:55:05,920
Speaker 1: Lions had the lead, you know, when Rogers sat, so

2224
01:55:06,000 --> 01:55:07,840
Speaker 1: they had a halftime lead. It doesn't shock me the

2225
01:55:07,880 --> 01:55:09,880
Speaker 1: way the Lions have been playing lately that they would

2226
01:55:09,880 --> 01:55:12,680
Speaker 1: be competitive. Uh. I don't. Yeah, I don't take too

2227
01:55:12,720 --> 01:55:16,120
Speaker 1: many two big takeaways, but I haven't been overly impressed

2228
01:55:16,160 --> 01:55:19,080
Speaker 1: with the Packers defense in the back half of the season.

2229
01:55:19,120 --> 01:55:21,640
Speaker 1: I actually think teams kind of built like the Lions,

2230
01:55:21,680 --> 01:55:23,720
Speaker 1: with a good offensive line, a good running game like

2231
01:55:24,280 --> 01:55:26,200
Speaker 1: they struggled to get off the field a little bit

2232
01:55:26,280 --> 01:55:28,200
Speaker 1: this Packers. Yeah, they scored three on three on their

2233
01:55:28,240 --> 01:55:30,720
Speaker 1: first four drives the Lions, and they were legit drives.

2234
01:55:30,760 --> 01:55:32,680
Speaker 1: I mean, they just they looked much much better than

2235
01:55:32,720 --> 01:55:35,360
Speaker 1: they had earlier stretches of the season. Is this the

2236
01:55:35,400 --> 01:55:39,200
Speaker 1: most successful three and year ever? I think so because

2237
01:55:39,240 --> 01:55:41,400
Speaker 1: they're so fun to watch. Two and again, it's they

2238
01:55:41,880 --> 01:55:44,960
Speaker 1: they kind of play with this um daring do where

2239
01:55:45,000 --> 01:55:47,320
Speaker 1: again it's the fourth down attempts, it's the go to

2240
01:55:47,520 --> 01:55:49,560
Speaker 1: check out some of the trick plays they pulled off today.

2241
01:55:49,960 --> 01:55:52,160
Speaker 1: And I mean I think that they they're a team

2242
01:55:52,200 --> 01:55:53,400
Speaker 1: that if you look at what they've done over the

2243
01:55:53,520 --> 01:55:56,800
Speaker 1: last month plus, I think they're on the run heading

2244
01:55:56,800 --> 01:55:59,280
Speaker 1: in the right direction. They have changed to. They're getting

2245
01:55:59,400 --> 01:56:02,360
Speaker 1: rid of Anthony Lynn, their their offensive coordinator, who lost

2246
01:56:02,720 --> 01:56:06,880
Speaker 1: play calling duties about midway through the season. And for

2247
01:56:06,960 --> 01:56:08,920
Speaker 1: what it's worth, Dan Campbell took it over as the

2248
01:56:08,960 --> 01:56:11,080
Speaker 1: head coach and and they their offense was a lot

2249
01:56:11,160 --> 01:56:15,000
Speaker 1: better after Dan Campbell took over. Greggy, you smell that?

2250
01:56:15,840 --> 01:56:20,200
Speaker 1: What's that? That's? Uh? Mark Sessler predicting the lines to

2251
01:56:20,280 --> 01:56:22,320
Speaker 1: make the playoffs next year, and us hearing about it

2252
01:56:22,400 --> 01:56:26,760
Speaker 1: for two and a half months next summer. I think

2253
01:56:26,800 --> 01:56:29,520
Speaker 1: he'll actually predict them. Yeah, he'll predict it, and May

2254
01:56:29,840 --> 01:56:32,240
Speaker 1: will go back on it in August, and then he'll

2255
01:56:32,880 --> 01:56:35,040
Speaker 1: he'll claim it throughout the course of the season, but

2256
01:56:35,120 --> 01:56:38,480
Speaker 1: then go quiet once again. We can't we can't cover.

2257
01:56:38,840 --> 01:56:42,200
Speaker 1: Mark just got up and walked away right as I

2258
01:56:42,240 --> 01:56:44,000
Speaker 1: started to bring him up. So if I didn't tell

2259
01:56:44,040 --> 01:56:46,400
Speaker 1: the audience that Mark left, it would just make it

2260
01:56:46,440 --> 01:56:48,160
Speaker 1: look like he didn't say anything. Here he comes, he's

2261
01:56:48,240 --> 01:56:52,960
Speaker 1: right it back and he is back. Mark's back. Yeah, Mark,

2262
01:56:55,800 --> 01:56:58,080
Speaker 1: I was just saying, for two and a half months

2263
01:56:58,280 --> 01:57:00,600
Speaker 1: next summer, you're gonna be talking about Lines going to

2264
01:57:00,640 --> 01:57:04,360
Speaker 1: the playoffs. That was my prediction. I'm not quite there yet,

2265
01:57:04,680 --> 01:57:06,840
Speaker 1: um I know, but in the summer you will be.

2266
01:57:07,080 --> 01:57:11,040
Speaker 1: You will. By the way you sprinted out of there

2267
01:57:11,080 --> 01:57:13,160
Speaker 1: while you were coffee, that was a coffin sprint. I

2268
01:57:13,200 --> 01:57:16,640
Speaker 1: haven't seen that the old coffing's sprint better than a

2269
01:57:16,680 --> 01:57:20,120
Speaker 1: coffin sprint, right, man, This corona got me. But I'm

2270
01:57:20,320 --> 01:57:23,120
Speaker 1: you know, I was feeling good today until show started

2271
01:57:23,840 --> 01:57:28,240
Speaker 1: hanging there buddy, let's take a break. Welcome back, Let's

2272
01:57:28,800 --> 01:57:31,120
Speaker 1: keep moving through the NFC. It is third in two

2273
01:57:31,200 --> 01:57:35,160
Speaker 1: Cousins from undersetter, he's looking deep now he avoids a Bear,

2274
01:57:35,560 --> 01:57:42,720
Speaker 1: fires to Jefferson touchdown j j J with a forty

2275
01:57:42,840 --> 01:57:49,880
Speaker 1: five yard touchdown reception, and it's seventeen sixteen Bears. Yeah,

2276
01:57:49,960 --> 01:57:52,480
Speaker 1: we predicted this one. Paul Allen of The Call KFE

2277
01:57:52,600 --> 01:57:57,840
Speaker 1: and uh nice stat stat padding Week eighteen finale for

2278
01:57:57,920 --> 01:58:00,800
Speaker 1: the Vikings. Kark Cousins passed for one seventy two and

2279
01:58:00,840 --> 01:58:03,760
Speaker 1: three touchdowns in the second half, leading the Vikings to

2280
01:58:03,840 --> 01:58:08,960
Speaker 1: a comeback over the Bears thirty one seventeen two teams

2281
01:58:09,080 --> 01:58:12,800
Speaker 1: with a head coach in danger of being canned, we'll see.

2282
01:58:13,480 --> 01:58:16,200
Speaker 1: We will have a podcast that will follow this one

2283
01:58:16,640 --> 01:58:20,120
Speaker 1: in short order, either Monday or Tuesday, addressing everything on

2284
01:58:20,720 --> 01:58:24,360
Speaker 1: Black Monday related. But as of this taping, both men

2285
01:58:24,440 --> 01:58:27,600
Speaker 1: are still employed anyway. Jeffer justin Jefferson tied the score there.

2286
01:58:27,960 --> 01:58:30,640
Speaker 1: kJ Osborne caught the go ahead touchdown for the Vikings,

2287
01:58:30,960 --> 01:58:36,800
Speaker 1: who outscored Chicago three in the second Have greg who

2288
01:58:36,840 --> 01:58:41,080
Speaker 1: has the brighter future the Bears of the Vikings. Oh

2289
01:58:41,320 --> 01:58:44,720
Speaker 1: that's a good one. You lean feel, you know the

2290
01:58:44,760 --> 01:58:47,800
Speaker 1: team that has justin fields. But I I just I

2291
01:58:47,920 --> 01:58:50,560
Speaker 1: do like Vikings roster a lot better and just their

2292
01:58:50,640 --> 01:58:56,000
Speaker 1: general makeup, even like the way they've brought in talent

2293
01:58:56,080 --> 01:59:00,080
Speaker 1: their organizations. I guess I'll go Vikings. That's tough. Yeah, this,

2294
01:59:00,160 --> 01:59:02,320
Speaker 1: I'd go Vikings too. I mean, I think also, you've

2295
01:59:02,440 --> 01:59:04,360
Speaker 1: you've got a lot to attract a new head coach

2296
01:59:04,440 --> 01:59:06,400
Speaker 1: if they do move on from Zimmer, we'll have a

2297
01:59:06,440 --> 01:59:09,400
Speaker 1: lot to talk about. There's some ominous reports about Zimmer.

2298
01:59:09,440 --> 01:59:11,440
Speaker 1: There's no need to get too deep into it now

2299
01:59:11,480 --> 01:59:14,080
Speaker 1: because we'll find out. But it sure looks like both

2300
01:59:14,120 --> 01:59:15,720
Speaker 1: these teams will probably be well. Did you hear a

2301
01:59:15,840 --> 01:59:18,760
Speaker 1: Zimmer snap at a reporter who asked him about his

2302
01:59:18,920 --> 01:59:23,120
Speaker 1: job security? Let's listen in. Yeah, have you heard anything

2303
01:59:23,240 --> 01:59:25,880
Speaker 1: about your job status? And what are your thoughts? Just

2304
01:59:25,960 --> 01:59:27,800
Speaker 1: go on the rumors now, I haven't heard anything about

2305
01:59:27,800 --> 01:59:29,880
Speaker 1: my job status. I haven't heard anything about yours either.

2306
01:59:30,800 --> 01:59:32,240
Speaker 1: Do you think there was a chance this could have

2307
01:59:32,280 --> 01:59:36,840
Speaker 1: been your last game? My choice on my decision? Yeah, so,

2308
01:59:36,880 --> 01:59:39,200
Speaker 1: because he seems like Zimmer is just over it. Last

2309
01:59:39,240 --> 01:59:41,360
Speaker 1: week when they were asked if Kellen Mond was going

2310
01:59:41,400 --> 01:59:43,720
Speaker 1: to get to start, if he needed to see him.

2311
01:59:43,760 --> 01:59:46,120
Speaker 1: He's like, no, very flatly, one of my favorite like

2312
01:59:46,240 --> 01:59:49,280
Speaker 1: coach responses. He's very much like a Parcels type guy.

2313
01:59:49,440 --> 01:59:52,480
Speaker 1: I like Zimmer, and I think, uh, it's gonna be

2314
01:59:52,560 --> 01:59:54,520
Speaker 1: a bummer if if he doesn't stick around. But at

2315
01:59:54,560 --> 01:59:57,120
Speaker 1: the same time, you know, results matter. This was, by

2316
01:59:57,120 --> 01:59:59,120
Speaker 1: the way, truly the d G A F Bowl. You

2317
01:59:59,200 --> 02:00:02,080
Speaker 1: have Zimmer who is like, you know, he doesn't care anymore,

2318
02:00:02,520 --> 02:00:04,920
Speaker 1: and barras coach Mattnege elected to go for it on

2319
02:00:05,040 --> 02:00:08,280
Speaker 1: fourth down six times, failing on all but one of

2320
02:00:08,320 --> 02:00:13,280
Speaker 1: those attempts. Great Dalton got sacked three times on fourth down,

2321
02:00:13,360 --> 02:00:15,640
Speaker 1: which you would have to check, but that had to

2322
02:00:15,720 --> 02:00:17,720
Speaker 1: have set an NFL record. I don't know if anyone's

2323
02:00:17,720 --> 02:00:20,720
Speaker 1: ever taken three fourth down sacks in the same game. Yiks,

2324
02:00:20,760 --> 02:00:23,600
Speaker 1: all right, let's um. Let's quickly wrap up the NFC

2325
02:00:24,120 --> 02:00:30,480
Speaker 1: with the NFC Least Bowl. Here's from the snap off

2326
02:00:30,520 --> 02:00:40,280
Speaker 1: Bobby McCain five pit six touchdown touchdown Washington Bram Weinstein

2327
02:00:40,640 --> 02:00:42,840
Speaker 1: w T E M. Bobby McCain returned the first of

2328
02:00:42,880 --> 02:00:47,800
Speaker 1: his two interceptions thirty yards to the house. Antonio Gibson

2329
02:00:47,880 --> 02:00:50,600
Speaker 1: ran for a career high Buck forty six, scored a touch,

2330
02:00:51,120 --> 02:00:54,440
Speaker 1: captains first one thousand yard rushing season, led Washington to

2331
02:00:54,520 --> 02:00:59,880
Speaker 1: a seven victory over the moribund New York Giants, washing

2332
02:01:00,040 --> 02:01:03,000
Speaker 1: and finishes at seven and ten, Big Blue Up, mortifying

2333
02:01:03,160 --> 02:01:07,600
Speaker 1: four and thirteen. Dave Gettleman's Giants career almost certainly ends

2334
02:01:07,680 --> 02:01:10,040
Speaker 1: with this loss. The general manager and will see what

2335
02:01:10,160 --> 02:01:14,240
Speaker 1: other changes we see with these two NFC East also

2336
02:01:14,400 --> 02:01:19,320
Speaker 1: rans Jack del Rio says he's back the defensive coordinator.

2337
02:01:20,320 --> 02:01:21,840
Speaker 1: I didn't know that was up to him decide, but

2338
02:01:21,840 --> 02:01:26,240
Speaker 1: I guess he knows, so Ron Rivera. It's a reminder.

2339
02:01:26,280 --> 02:01:29,040
Speaker 1: It's like, hey, Washington, you could be worse. You could

2340
02:01:29,040 --> 02:01:31,160
Speaker 1: be the Giants. You could be the clown show. To

2341
02:01:31,360 --> 02:01:34,760
Speaker 1: use Joe Judges words from a week ago, that that

2342
02:01:34,840 --> 02:01:38,160
Speaker 1: are the New York Giants right now running a quarterback

2343
02:01:38,720 --> 02:01:42,480
Speaker 1: sneak power uh from their own four yard line on

2344
02:01:42,640 --> 02:01:46,200
Speaker 1: third and nine, just to like give their their uh punt.

2345
02:01:46,240 --> 02:01:48,720
Speaker 1: There a little extra. That's sad. That's a sad moment

2346
02:01:49,120 --> 02:01:51,760
Speaker 1: there is. It is a sad moment. And you know

2347
02:01:51,840 --> 02:01:53,680
Speaker 1: that fan base that's had a lot of highs over

2348
02:01:53,760 --> 02:01:57,200
Speaker 1: the last thirty years or so um to hear the

2349
02:01:57,400 --> 02:02:00,560
Speaker 1: reaction in the crowd when they see a quarterbacks called

2350
02:02:00,600 --> 02:02:03,840
Speaker 1: twice in a row at the goal line. The last one, yeah, third,

2351
02:02:04,040 --> 02:02:05,960
Speaker 1: third and nine, not even like a third and twenty

2352
02:02:06,040 --> 02:02:07,840
Speaker 1: eight or whatever. It's like you can go get that

2353
02:02:08,800 --> 02:02:12,080
Speaker 1: again against like a nine man box too, Like every

2354
02:02:12,480 --> 02:02:15,720
Speaker 1: like both teams had everyone just condensed next to the ball.

2355
02:02:15,800 --> 02:02:17,520
Speaker 1: It just it looked like they were on the goal line,

2356
02:02:17,520 --> 02:02:19,280
Speaker 1: but it's like now you were on the four. Neither

2357
02:02:19,400 --> 02:02:22,080
Speaker 1: team had over a hundred yards passing in this game.

2358
02:02:23,000 --> 02:02:25,600
Speaker 1: That is not a frequent occurrence. Yeah, my guy Terry

2359
02:02:25,640 --> 02:02:28,840
Speaker 1: McLaurin gote somehow on his own going over a thousand.

2360
02:02:28,960 --> 02:02:31,400
Speaker 1: You know, my I'm losing a lot of sandwiches on Terry.

2361
02:02:31,440 --> 02:02:33,960
Speaker 1: It was a tough situation. It wasn't his fault. We

2362
02:02:34,080 --> 02:02:38,400
Speaker 1: will know. We're gonna revisit our sandwich props on our

2363
02:02:38,480 --> 02:02:41,800
Speaker 1: next show. Um, but I do remember you had something

2364
02:02:42,120 --> 02:02:44,320
Speaker 1: very lofty. Don't don't even let me know. I'd rather

2365
02:02:44,440 --> 02:02:46,200
Speaker 1: like be surprised when we take a look at it again.

2366
02:02:46,280 --> 02:02:48,880
Speaker 1: But you were all in on scary Terry. Um. But

2367
02:02:49,040 --> 02:02:51,800
Speaker 1: he got bogged down by an offense that was just

2368
02:02:52,480 --> 02:02:54,760
Speaker 1: you know, from the Ryan Fitzpatrick injury on just they

2369
02:02:54,800 --> 02:02:58,200
Speaker 1: were not able to overcome the setbacks and and it's

2370
02:02:58,200 --> 02:03:00,880
Speaker 1: gonna be a huge offseason for the Giants. I still,

2371
02:03:01,840 --> 02:03:03,800
Speaker 1: to me feels like they could clean house. We're gonna

2372
02:03:03,800 --> 02:03:07,040
Speaker 1: find out what happens over the next few days and weeks,

2373
02:03:07,840 --> 02:03:10,760
Speaker 1: but for the time being, Uh, there's no denying that

2374
02:03:10,800 --> 02:03:13,960
Speaker 1: the end of the Giants ended. Um the season is

2375
02:03:14,560 --> 02:03:17,360
Speaker 1: probably the worst team in football. Yeah, I don't I

2376
02:03:17,400 --> 02:03:21,960
Speaker 1: don't understand how there's there's floating reports that Joe Judge

2377
02:03:21,960 --> 02:03:25,960
Speaker 1: will be retained. It's like it's a combination of bizarre

2378
02:03:26,080 --> 02:03:29,600
Speaker 1: press conferences and a team that is completely totally regressed

2379
02:03:29,600 --> 02:03:33,040
Speaker 1: and has zero identity. Daniel Jones looked better I think

2380
02:03:33,080 --> 02:03:36,280
Speaker 1: after watching what was going on. I mean, just just

2381
02:03:37,000 --> 02:03:39,760
Speaker 1: just in comparison. I do want to get though, Mark, Um,

2382
02:03:39,960 --> 02:03:41,800
Speaker 1: because I know you're gonna be watching this on game

2383
02:03:41,840 --> 02:03:45,160
Speaker 1: pass later, just like your detailed notes of all of

2384
02:03:45,240 --> 02:03:49,200
Speaker 1: your thoughts, Um and takeaways for how this game changes

2385
02:03:49,280 --> 02:03:52,919
Speaker 1: your off season. Just look at at the Giants defensive

2386
02:03:52,960 --> 02:03:55,480
Speaker 1: line and linebacker positions. I'll be sure to send you

2387
02:03:55,560 --> 02:03:59,480
Speaker 1: my notes post taste. Yeah, we do count on you,

2388
02:03:59,600 --> 02:04:02,960
Speaker 1: Mark to handle this film study. Believe that you. Listen,

2389
02:04:03,000 --> 02:04:05,920
Speaker 1: you showed me how professional you are with the cardboard cutouts.

2390
02:04:07,000 --> 02:04:10,240
Speaker 1: Do you think has a future? You know you had

2391
02:04:10,280 --> 02:04:12,040
Speaker 1: five tackles in this game. Does you have a future

2392
02:04:12,080 --> 02:04:14,360
Speaker 1: with the Giants? There's only one way to check, that's

2393
02:04:14,400 --> 02:04:17,240
Speaker 1: the tape. Check with me on Tuesday, and I'll let

2394
02:04:17,240 --> 02:04:20,240
Speaker 1: you know everything that I've downloaded mentally about this. We're

2395
02:04:20,280 --> 02:04:22,360
Speaker 1: going to carve out a section of our next show

2396
02:04:22,480 --> 02:04:24,640
Speaker 1: just to break down this game, the tape study, and

2397
02:04:24,800 --> 02:04:27,280
Speaker 1: and we turned. We count on you because we know

2398
02:04:27,400 --> 02:04:30,120
Speaker 1: you're the man for the job. What a terrible task.

2399
02:04:31,120 --> 02:04:34,720
Speaker 1: What was that? Mark? Thank you for There you go.

2400
02:04:37,680 --> 02:04:40,520
Speaker 1: All right, that's the NFC. The table is set for

2401
02:04:40,600 --> 02:04:44,240
Speaker 1: another year of postseason football. We will have you covered,

2402
02:04:44,280 --> 02:04:49,840
Speaker 1: of course, with three shows every week, maybe more, whatever

2403
02:04:49,920 --> 02:04:54,360
Speaker 1: it's called upon and including Black Monday or as we

2404
02:04:54,520 --> 02:04:59,160
Speaker 1: call it, New Horizons Monday. That's that's something that's a

2405
02:04:59,200 --> 02:05:02,760
Speaker 1: branding that we came up with that skirted some NFL

2406
02:05:02,880 --> 02:05:07,800
Speaker 1: restrictions about using the term Black Monday. New Horizons Monday

2407
02:05:07,920 --> 02:05:10,400
Speaker 1: is upon us. Uh So we will have a show

2408
02:05:10,480 --> 02:05:13,560
Speaker 1: for you either Monday or Tuesday breaking all that down.

2409
02:05:13,640 --> 02:05:15,720
Speaker 1: So keep an eye out for that until then, try

2410
02:05:15,760 --> 02:05:19,920
Speaker 1: to get some sleep. Thank you everybody for listening. Uh

2411
02:05:20,040 --> 02:05:23,720
Speaker 1: does anybody else have anything else to add? No, my

2412
02:05:23,880 --> 02:05:26,840
Speaker 1: voice is about to die, so um, let's wrap it.

2413
02:05:27,240 --> 02:05:29,280
Speaker 1: It is. Yes, it's almost two am on the East

2414
02:05:29,280 --> 02:05:31,160
Speaker 1: coast right now, so that means we need to end

2415
02:05:31,240 --> 02:06:02,800
Speaker 1: this um until Tuesday. Heed the ball speA