WEBVTT - Nightcap - Hour 2: Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson, and former NFL All-Pro Terron Armstead react to Ocho being named one of the Top 10 wide receivers of the 2000s.

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<v Speaker 1>Volume.

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<v Speaker 2>mL Football release their top ten receivers in the two

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<v Speaker 2>thousands Number one, Randy Moss number two, t O number three,

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<v Speaker 2>Marvin Harrison number four, Big Game, Tory hol number five.

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<v Speaker 3>The Greatest Entertainment of all time.

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<v Speaker 2>Chad o Jo Siko Johnson number six, Hydes Ward number seven,

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<v Speaker 2>Steve Smith Senior number eight, Reggie Wayne number nine, Reverendnight,

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<v Speaker 2>Isaac Bruce number.

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<v Speaker 3>Ten, and Kwan Boulder God, hold on why yet? The

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<v Speaker 3>hold on? Who who who wo?

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<v Speaker 1>Wo? Whoa whoa wo?

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<v Speaker 3>What life is gerald? Yep? Listen that Cholvin John Longe

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<v Speaker 3>hold on?

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<v Speaker 1>They And there was an argument of by this earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>earlier all day on Twitter, obviously on my timeline, because

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<v Speaker 1>I said, the hell if that take me out and

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<v Speaker 1>put Andre Johnson now they also, I love, I love

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<v Speaker 1>Aan Kuanna what he did for the game, but as

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<v Speaker 1>something Captain Johnson has to be on there somewhere as well.

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<v Speaker 3>What about laughing you just got the third both catch Larry.

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<v Speaker 1>For Jerald has to be there as well. But then

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<v Speaker 1>people said it's the two thousands. So the two thousands,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Mega Tron only got maybe three years because

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<v Speaker 1>I think he came in and I forgot what year

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<v Speaker 1>he got drafted. I think he came in he only

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<v Speaker 1>had three years of.

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<v Speaker 3>How many years? How many years are one? Who years?

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<v Speaker 2>Was a laughish yer behind an Kwan because I think

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think Fitts was like one year behind

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<v Speaker 2>an Kwan.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's, it's it's a mother ship. Derek Mason, Derek,

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<v Speaker 1>Derek Mason should be on there too.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think people understand d make puting.

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<v Speaker 3>Some work man? What that man, Julio Jones.

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<v Speaker 1>You're talking about two thousands though Jo.

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<v Speaker 2>And Kwan was two thousand and three. Then what you saying?

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<v Speaker 2>Julio one in two thousand? I think no, Jolio came

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<v Speaker 2>into twenty twenty him and A J.

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<v Speaker 3>Green. Yeah ah ah mm hmm yeah, I like it.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it. I should have I should have been

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<v Speaker 1>higher though, I should have.

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<v Speaker 3>Who okay, who you? Who you?

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<v Speaker 2>Who are you replacing you? Replacing mass t o uh

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<v Speaker 2>Marvin or Tory.

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<v Speaker 1>Holt like just off entertainment alone. I'm number one.

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<v Speaker 3>Who you were taking out?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna put I just.

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<v Speaker 3>Told you so, you're gonna put you in.

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<v Speaker 1>You know when when we talk about numerical order, right,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't everything start with zero?

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<v Speaker 3>No, it starts with one. Okay, but before one is zero?

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<v Speaker 3>Who zero? Is that the z? Roy? You ain't zero?

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<v Speaker 3>You don't want to be zero?

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<v Speaker 1>So it's me then then t O, then Moss, then

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<v Speaker 1>whatever or do you want to do?

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm you know zero is the negative? Nothing?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Listen?

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<v Speaker 1>I was, I was have a quick comeback, but I

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<v Speaker 1>missed it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think you, I think you want to be

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<v Speaker 2>so if we ate, so we gotta take, We're gonna take.

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<v Speaker 1>Hell, no, boy, were you taking off wood? That's right?

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, listen.

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<v Speaker 1>I specifically said entertainment and fun value only. I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 1>mad at the top.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it. But that that was a good list. I

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<v Speaker 3>very fortunate enough that I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw all these guys.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all these guys, Randy, t O, Marvin played against Randy.

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<v Speaker 2>I never played against t O, played against Marvin, played

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<v Speaker 2>against Holt played against O.

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<v Speaker 3>Joe.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, hey, hey, Kelly.

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<v Speaker 2>What's hands on it? What's hands on? What did the

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<v Speaker 2>time you get hands was on that team in ninety eight, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I know he's that team in two thousand. Tell Joe

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<v Speaker 2>what I did, y'all? We played, y'all.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why I was the name. Nothing lost so long?

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<v Speaker 3>Who had the big game?

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<v Speaker 1>But I did what I did, y'all when we played, y'all,

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't there was in Baltimore.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we y'all. What I did to you? I think

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<v Speaker 3>I think you might have had like three? But how

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<v Speaker 3>many TVs?

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<v Speaker 2>How many catches? Oh you're having two thousand and one

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<v Speaker 2>against because we beat the Heller? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>pull them numbers up, Ash, It wasn't no, honey, that's

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<v Speaker 2>for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Got what out of my rookie year? That's okay. You

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<v Speaker 3>woul learned that target like you had too. Yeah, I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>I bet how much I had? Ask how much I had?

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<v Speaker 3>What do you have? Ask? Fifty five sixty yards? I

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<v Speaker 3>had about by two thirty? No, he didn't playing the

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<v Speaker 3>Baltimore game, I did. Yeah. I think you might have

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<v Speaker 3>called a touchdown against us in two thousand. I sure did.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I would do. I catch it. That was

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<v Speaker 3>at Denver then, But we beat hell out, y'all. Are

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<v Speaker 3>you were gone?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh Joe, you asked seven targets, three catches for twenty

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<v Speaker 2>eight yards against us?

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<v Speaker 3>It was what I have? What I have? As Hey?

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<v Speaker 1>That boy was skating out there.

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<v Speaker 2>What against Baltimore. Oh, oh, Joe, you do realize, Oh Joe,

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<v Speaker 2>you didn't even you did. Y'all didn't even score.

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<v Speaker 3>I ain't score. It was zero. Y'all had zero. Again,

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<v Speaker 3>since you like zeros, y'all had that. Hold on what year?

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<v Speaker 2>This was two thousand and one? Yep, seven targets, three catches,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty eight yards.

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<v Speaker 3>What I have I do? I have me a tub, sweet.

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<v Speaker 1>Tub to the other five catches, I ain't catch them.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, first of all, you had that was four targets.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean because I said you had seven targets, you

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<v Speaker 2>had three catches, so it wasn't five.

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<v Speaker 3>You in math didn't do too good. That was four.

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<v Speaker 3>You didn't catch. No, No, I ain't dropped no ball.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that's one thing I ain't do.

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<v Speaker 3>I ain't dropped the money. I ain't dropped the money.

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<v Speaker 1>My head on my hands was like glue.

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<v Speaker 2>You hit me at a tub? Oh I scored in

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and one? Oh that was two thousand or

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<v Speaker 2>I had three targets, three catches thirty two yards.

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<v Speaker 3>So you see the difference. Three targets, three catches.

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<v Speaker 1>Well you play hold on, hold on, you gotta understand

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<v Speaker 1>what defense I was going against This was the Baltimore Ravens. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't really I ain't really get y'all skipped.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, you didn't. You didn't get the two thousand

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<v Speaker 3>based Ravens defense. You got the old what same thing?

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all wasn't missing too many pieces, man, y'all wasn't missing

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<v Speaker 1>too any.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh what did he do?

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<v Speaker 2>What he do the second time? Because that was the

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<v Speaker 2>home game? I think there, what do you doing? Because

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<v Speaker 2>I think he had a touchdown. He probably had a

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<v Speaker 2>touchdown the second time.

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<v Speaker 1>Every time I play all of the score. Now, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm gonna do. No, you didn't you had the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eight Measley yards. You ain't even have it the

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<v Speaker 1>first down. That's my rookie year. They were just introducing

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<v Speaker 1>me to y'all. You know when you first meet somebody, Joe, y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't want to get they didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Want to put me out. Oh Joe. The first time

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<v Speaker 3>y'all played, you had one target, no catchers.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, that's it. Oh you know what, because see that's

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<v Speaker 1>my rookie year. So they ain't really introduce me to y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that was the second time that was having that game?

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<v Speaker 3>What happened. What I did? What I did?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, eight, I had twelve targets, eight catches. You

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<v Speaker 2>had one target, no catches. You out there, he was

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<v Speaker 2>out there bull hiving.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey wa yeah, what year was that?

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<v Speaker 3>Two thousand and one? The year you asked my lookie here,

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<v Speaker 3>what that got? What I did after that? Though? What

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<v Speaker 3>I did after that, I don't know. I wasn't there.

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<v Speaker 3>I was in Denver.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you want to say what we did in different

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<v Speaker 2>we played all in two thousand two. Well, yeah, I know,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I know you lost.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't know. I know that. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 3>the numbers, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Women numbers looked like, asked what I did in Denver? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you got a touchdown, but I do I

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<v Speaker 1>cast touchdowns.

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<v Speaker 3>But we beat y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, we talked about from an individual standpoint, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>control I can't control the team.

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<v Speaker 3>No regular season we played in two thousand and three. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>what I did then?

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<v Speaker 1>What I did then, because hey, by the time two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and three came, Joe, like I had fully arrived.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I was, like, I knocked, Okay, what would it?

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<v Speaker 3>What do you do? Because that was car I think

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<v Speaker 3>that that was Carson, your Carson we have. Hey, Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>what year did you change your name though? To you?

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<v Speaker 1>I think maybe two thousand and seven. I just wonder

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<v Speaker 1>if you'd have played the Baltimore Ravens in two thousand.

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<v Speaker 1>We made him change it back. Hey, Joe, listen, I

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<v Speaker 1>changed my name simply for marketing and branding purposes only.

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<v Speaker 3>That's all.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh two thousand, Oh Joe, you had ten targets, six catches,

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<v Speaker 2>ninety five yards of a touchdown.

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<v Speaker 3>That was me? That was all right? What was what

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<v Speaker 3>was this? What happened was the goo ash? Thirty to ten?

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<v Speaker 3>Was the score or bus stop?

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<v Speaker 1>So I was the only one that scored, Yes, And

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<v Speaker 1>it was late in the game when you scored. It

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<v Speaker 1>don't matter how long as I got in there. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>you listen. Sometimes sometimes you gotta. When you go on

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<v Speaker 1>a date, sometimes you know, you know, you get the

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<v Speaker 1>first base, sometime you get the second.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all right, Hey, Joe, I don't want to tell nobody,

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<v Speaker 2>but we had to call the dolls off.

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<v Speaker 3>He scored with a minute left in the ball throw. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>ain't had no choice but the throw. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>what you had. You had a choice. You had four

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<v Speaker 3>quarters and you had time to do something before the

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<v Speaker 3>we beat the brakes onthing. Oh Joe, you still celebrated

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<v Speaker 3>on them?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, no, no, no, Listen. One thing I always did, Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>is I never celebrated, never did a celebration if we

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<v Speaker 1>were losing. Only if we were to tie the game

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<v Speaker 1>or we scored first, or was it to go up.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I ain't played like that. Well, you ain't

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<v Speaker 3>do no celebrating against on the teams. I would loose that.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh cho, man, you're lucky.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, you lucky. We didn't cross path like at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time like you would use on the back end,

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<v Speaker 1>And I was coming in. If I play during your

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<v Speaker 1>row like during man, I would have sought your ass up.

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<v Speaker 2>But boy, oh Joe, I was like I would. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>good for having tubs against Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 3>Kell.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to understand. You have to understand.

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<v Speaker 2>We played what two thousand, dropped two and what we

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<v Speaker 2>do in two thousands before you got there, Ojo. Then

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<v Speaker 2>before you got there, we beat the break.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to understand how bad Cincinnati was back then.

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<v Speaker 1>Not understanding that, Joe, that that's not fair.

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<v Speaker 2>So we your defense still suspect. I mean, y'all got

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<v Speaker 2>some great offense players with Joe and Chase and Higgins.

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<v Speaker 2>But that defense dang had damn Oh my bad o jo.

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<v Speaker 2>We beat y'all thirty seven zero in two thousand.

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<v Speaker 3>I've caught twicet twice. I already know that I don't

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<v Speaker 3>like that.

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<v Speaker 2>As a matter of fact, Our Moss Darryl Williams, Hey.

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<v Speaker 3>Will it boy, not me?

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<v Speaker 2>He talked me in the end z on he had

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<v Speaker 2>the spelled the ownerant though I think it spelled the

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<v Speaker 2>owneran joke. They're gonna spell the ownerate cause the reference

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<v Speaker 2>gonna do that. I had about four catching. I had

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<v Speaker 2>about four catches about fifty yard two tubs man. Not

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<v Speaker 2>in Cincinnati in two thousand. No you talking about I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just the first game, first game, hit like a two yarder. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the game in Cincinnati, the thirty seven nothing, that's when

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<v Speaker 2>it noted the Keilly Smith. That's when Robertnette hit a

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<v Speaker 2>Kelley Smith that knocked him out of the game. Y'all

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<v Speaker 2>about have had like forty yards that game.

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<v Speaker 3>The hell you say? I called two touchdowns that game

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<v Speaker 3>in two thousand, I did play. Yeah it is it

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<v Speaker 3>is in two thousand. Yeah, let me let me go. Lord,

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<v Speaker 3>have no see what I said as.

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<v Speaker 2>Try to short change me my numbers, Joe, I ain't play.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I think I'm gonna know. Uh Ravens m hm,

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<v Speaker 2>Okay what it is? Get them right, man, Let them know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>ad tried to short change me. We beat them twenty

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<v Speaker 2>seven seven.

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<v Speaker 4>No no, no, no, no, no, okay Shannon sharp seven

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<v Speaker 4>for sixty sixty six and two touchdowns.

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<v Speaker 3>Ayess who the Ravens. I ain't play, y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>In two thousand, that was that's when as a matter

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<v Speaker 2>of fact, that's when Corey Dillon ran broke the record

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<v Speaker 2>against the Broncos. He ran for two seventy five to

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<v Speaker 2>seventy six. Because the record with Walter Payton to seventy five.

0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:26.000
<v Speaker 2>Who broke OJ's record like two seventy three? But don't

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<v Speaker 2>worry about it, don't Joe?

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<v Speaker 3>Hey?

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<v Speaker 2>What?

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<v Speaker 3>Hey? I was that boy?

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<v Speaker 1>And Joe you missed it.

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<v Speaker 2>Saint Kwon Barclay's iconic reverse hurdle is the cover of

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<v Speaker 2>the Madden NFL. That's why I mean, this is the

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<v Speaker 2>second hold on. This is the second straight year a

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<v Speaker 2>running back had been on the cover. Christian McCaffrey being

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<v Speaker 2>the athlete on Madden NFL twenty five that sparked the

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<v Speaker 2>debate of the infamous Madden Curse once more. Uh. This

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<v Speaker 2>is the first time a member of the Jacksonville Jag

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<v Speaker 2>has been on the cover of a Madden I'll bet

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<v Speaker 2>as a person being hurdled.

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<v Speaker 3>Damn. Hey, the person getting hurdled.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, he got to be upset about that.

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<v Speaker 3>Boy, he got to be upset about.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, he he'll mortealized. He made That's like that

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<v Speaker 2>Jordan push off o Joe.

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<v Speaker 3>Russell, you wanted to push off. He just he just

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<v Speaker 3>guided him a little bit out of the way. Well

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<v Speaker 3>he only yeah, that that's what he guided him. That's

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<v Speaker 3>album it is, it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I just left. We were at Geno Steakhouse to night,

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<v Speaker 1>uh and they turned it into kun uh Chi stak

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<v Speaker 1>It was really really, really really dope.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Event I was able to congratulate Sae Quon on being

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<v Speaker 1>the cover athlete and we talked about the Madden Curse.

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<v Speaker 3>Josh Allen was going to cover.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't get hurt when not not too long ago, John

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>E didn't get hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>Pastor Mahome was on the cover previously, he didn't get hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think sa Quan is safe. Uh, there have

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<v Speaker 1>been players that have that have had small injuries, nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>To where he missed a lot of time.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think we got to do it with the

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<v Speaker 1>whole Madden curse thing, and sa Quan is the one

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<v Speaker 1>that take care of his body, doesn't really.

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<v Speaker 3>Get hurt much.

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<v Speaker 1>He has in the past, but recently he hasn't been hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's gonna be all right, And I honestly

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<v Speaker 1>think there's a good chance that they might repeat. But

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<v Speaker 1>being at the commanders have gotten better, being that Dallas

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<v Speaker 1>has gotten better, you know, obviously adding George Piggins. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>from an offensive standpoint, I'm not sure how they would

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<v Speaker 1>look defensively. I'm excited. I'm excited to see what that

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<v Speaker 1>NFC NFC West looked like.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, oh, Joe, y'all was good. God, y'all was terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh joy, y'all had one hundred and seventy four total

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<v Speaker 2>yards that came.

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<v Speaker 1>You?

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<v Speaker 2>Was that.

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<v Speaker 3>Two thousand?

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<v Speaker 1>That's what they want to throw me at the ball?

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<v Speaker 3>You wasn't even there?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I wasn't there yet.

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<v Speaker 3>You better be glad you were. If I was, the

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<v Speaker 3>Dowcome would have been different. I can tell you that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>used to be raising hell when that ball don't come

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<v Speaker 3>your way.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I might have maybe two instances like that.

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<v Speaker 3>One.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a playoff game. We were playing the Steelers.

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<v Speaker 1>When Carson went down. I was very frustrated. So you

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<v Speaker 1>have to get your production from somewhere when a quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>of that magnitude playbook. The playbook changes significantly when the

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<v Speaker 1>second quarterback comes in. So at that point, now I'm

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<v Speaker 1>feeling put me in positions to make up for not

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<v Speaker 1>having him in, and we weren't able to do that

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<v Speaker 1>because we were playing the Steelers, and the Steelers that year,

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<v Speaker 1>that five year, that defense, that defense.

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<v Speaker 3>Joe, Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just wanted to be I wanted him to

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<v Speaker 1>stop allowing them to dictate what we want to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's dictate, y'all will go do nothing. So outside of that,

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<v Speaker 1>I was really frustrated, Joe. Uh that that was one time,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was another time, Oh, the same game, Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>I got I got mad in the same game. Well, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that that was the one you was outing to fooling

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of that's what I just told Joe. Yeah, hey, Joe, boy,

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<v Speaker 1>See now I could have said something see. I knew

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<v Speaker 1>about this, but I ain't put it out there, Joe.

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<v Speaker 1>So at that time I was on CBS and the

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<v Speaker 1>word that came back to me, we got got. I said, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm not one of those.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have the problem. You know, you know, like

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<v Speaker 3>the ball not coming.

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<v Speaker 1>I I'll be chilling, Joe, just that game, the magnitude

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<v Speaker 1>of the game, and you allowing them to dictate to

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<v Speaker 1>us what we want to do.

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<v Speaker 3>You thought y'all would going to the Super Bowls office.

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<v Speaker 1>I promise you, Hey, Joe, all I needed was the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>Joe.

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<v Speaker 1>Just put him in the hand, Joe, and listen, I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't I wasn't one of those guys A catching a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and twenty and hundred three passes the season. Ninety

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<v Speaker 1>You give me three or football is a game. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>good because two of them. Oh, I'm finna get Jiggy

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of catches that.

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<v Speaker 3>Shit, Ocho.

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<v Speaker 2>Since we stayed on the Bengals, your quarterback Joe Burrow,

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<v Speaker 2>who has four nine hundred and eighteen passing yards led

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<v Speaker 2>the league forty three touchdowns led the league, said the

0:19:22.320 --> 0:19:24.280
<v Speaker 2>Bengals would have made the playoff last year if he

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<v Speaker 2>had played better. If I played even better, we wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>have been in the spot where we were well that

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<v Speaker 2>we were in. I just got to focus on getting

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<v Speaker 2>better myself, and I feel like everyone in the locker

0:19:33.600 --> 0:19:35.399
<v Speaker 2>room feel the same way. If I go out there

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<v Speaker 2>and play better than I did last year, then it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't matter what goes on anywhere. Like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm glad he took that's quarterback. Joe played quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just he had some constantly turnovers at the

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<v Speaker 2>most inopportunity times. And you know when you playing catch

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<v Speaker 2>up Ocho, or you got the lead. Because that Baltimore game,

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<v Speaker 2>the first time that y'all played there, Ojo, y'all had

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<v Speaker 2>a lead, and he had some costly he had a

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<v Speaker 2>costly he had a couple of costly turnal.

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<v Speaker 3>I like, I love Joe. I like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 3>as the leader, that's what you're supposed to got to

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<v Speaker 3>say that.

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<v Speaker 1>You got to say, and not very many will do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Not very many will do that. You know what. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't like that, Joe said. I don't like that. He

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<v Speaker 3>said he's tired of.

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<v Speaker 1>Playing at the Ravens home field in primetime games. M hmm,

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<v Speaker 1>because I I for me as a competitor. I love

0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:32.840
<v Speaker 1>playing away Ravens Steelers. Brown's matter of fact, Hell, I

0:20:32.960 --> 0:20:36.320
<v Speaker 1>like playing away just in general, especially prime time. You mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I get to be in a chaotic environment and the

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<v Speaker 1>whole world is watching.

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<v Speaker 3>I like that. But for some reason, so I just

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<v Speaker 3>I don't. I don't like that.

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<v Speaker 1>He said that because it makes me feel as if

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<v Speaker 1>he has an issue playing the Ravens in general.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, hey, let let us get with him a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit, one of the more prime time I mean, say,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't mind having the Bengals in prime time, let

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<v Speaker 2>them come to us in prime.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't care. I like, I like, I like being

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<v Speaker 1>prime time and playing in Baltimore. So I'm finna send

0:21:06.560 --> 0:21:09.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm finna send you home with a loss.

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<v Speaker 1>And everybody got to sing. I mean, I'm looking at it.

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<v Speaker 1>I look at it differently.

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<v Speaker 2>Colorado coach Coach Prime said he was hurt by reports

0:21:20.359 --> 0:21:22.760
<v Speaker 2>that said his son should do it. Was unprepared during

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<v Speaker 2>the pre draft meetings with NFL teams, But he also

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<v Speaker 2>isn't buying the valiity of them either. It did hurt,

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<v Speaker 2>but the Bible says God uses the foolish thing to

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<v Speaker 2>confound the wives. There are some foolish stuff that went on,

0:21:34.400 --> 0:21:37.159
<v Speaker 2>but that gave them something that they needed, like that

0:21:37.400 --> 0:21:39.720
<v Speaker 2>edge that Tom Brady had. It gave them that edge

0:21:39.800 --> 0:21:42.320
<v Speaker 2>that you had. It gave them the edge that you have.

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<v Speaker 2>Folks said we weren't gonna be nothing, but we had

0:21:45.520 --> 0:21:48.040
<v Speaker 2>to prove prove them have You had to prove that.

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<v Speaker 2>It gave him that edge that needed both of them.

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<v Speaker 2>When you sit up there and say something like he

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<v Speaker 2>went into the meetings unprepared, like dude shaud Door Sanders,

0:21:56.840 --> 0:21:59.480
<v Speaker 2>who has had six different officive coordinators, who has the

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<v Speaker 2>fult still function at a level every time we brought

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<v Speaker 2>somebody innew And you're gonna tell me he was unprepared.

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<v Speaker 3>You're gonna tell me he had on headphones.

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<v Speaker 2>Anybody that knows my son to understand he's professional, He's

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<v Speaker 2>going to go into the meeting with the headphones on.

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<v Speaker 3>Y'all come on now. And so I knew bull drive.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew they were shucking the drive and when they

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<v Speaker 1>said it when the report came out, Because when you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to a meeting like that with execs, with the

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<v Speaker 1>higher level, higher level folks at an organization, you're going

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<v Speaker 1>there a certain way. You ain't gonna have.

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<v Speaker 3>You your phones on. You're gonna be prepared.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, your coach and your father has already prepared

0:22:35.119 --> 0:22:37.520
<v Speaker 1>you for that moment anyway, So what are we talking about?

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I bet they did.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh Joe, he probably had the headphones right and anything like,

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<v Speaker 2>he had them on. I bet you that's what he needed.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, they gonna change it up when it

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<v Speaker 1>come out. You know, the story gonna come out, pretend like.

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<v Speaker 3>You just said. You know what, guys on our draft board,

0:22:52.760 --> 0:22:55.080
<v Speaker 3>we didn't have him rated that high. We moved on.

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<v Speaker 2>But they try to diminish the man, to try to

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<v Speaker 2>come up with every use like he's upper professional like

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<v Speaker 2>or he had you know, his brag adocious what man

0:23:08.600 --> 0:23:11.520
<v Speaker 2>look cares y'all know, they probably could teach him a

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<v Speaker 2>little a lot harder than they did.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course they did. Yeah, absolutely, of course, of course.

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<v Speaker 2>And from all I know is somebody through through those

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<v Speaker 2>four thousand yards. All I knew is somebody had those

0:23:23.440 --> 0:23:25.920
<v Speaker 2>thirty four, thirty five thirty what would have many touchdowns

0:23:25.960 --> 0:23:30.280
<v Speaker 2>he threw four? Somebody did that. If somebody inherited a

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<v Speaker 2>one and eleven or one in ten team, and within

0:23:33.720 --> 0:23:35.760
<v Speaker 2>two years they had won nine games and they were

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<v Speaker 2>in a bowl game. All I know he was the quarterback.

0:23:39.880 --> 0:23:43.600
<v Speaker 2>I know Jackson State was better with him than they

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<v Speaker 2>were before he got there. Spee, you was better with

0:23:46.880 --> 0:23:50.479
<v Speaker 2>him than they were before he got there. Now, if

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't fit your program, oh Joe, if somebody doesn't

0:23:53.359 --> 0:23:56.399
<v Speaker 2>fit your program but doesn't fit you, it's okay. You

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<v Speaker 2>don't have to say anything negative about said person relationship

0:24:00.680 --> 0:24:04.200
<v Speaker 2>for anything. If that not for you, okay, yeah, but

0:24:04.320 --> 0:24:05.680
<v Speaker 2>you ain't got to try to You ain't got to

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<v Speaker 2>try to dog them out to try to prop yourself up.

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<v Speaker 3>You ain't have to do that to that man.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, when it comes to the quarterback position, especially that

0:24:12.880 --> 0:24:16.160
<v Speaker 1>team specifically, when it comes to picking quarterbacks, I mean,

0:24:16.640 --> 0:24:18.240
<v Speaker 1>they've been missing for a very.

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<v Speaker 2>Long time anyway, they ain't pick Nobody said Sea Life,

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<v Speaker 2>so whoever said that, and the Browns y'all ain't did

0:24:28.680 --> 0:24:33.560
<v Speaker 2>much better. Let's be real, y'all hadn't y'all really hadn't

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<v Speaker 2>had a quarterback test, averdy. Since codes are in the

0:24:37.280 --> 0:24:40.760
<v Speaker 2>supplemental draft in eighty four. Hey, look, I think this

0:24:40.840 --> 0:24:42.600
<v Speaker 2>is gonna be good for him, though, Like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>just the little stuff that I've seen Uncle Ojo. It

0:24:45.960 --> 0:24:48.280
<v Speaker 2>seemed like, uh, you know, he got his head down

0:24:48.359 --> 0:24:48.920
<v Speaker 2>and he's working.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, he got it. That's all you can do. I

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<v Speaker 3>know that's it.

0:24:52.240 --> 0:24:54.240
<v Speaker 2>And I think that's a good thing for him. I know,

0:24:54.680 --> 0:24:57.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty sure he hears the whispers, but he keep it.

0:24:57.600 --> 0:24:59.120
<v Speaker 2>He keep his head down and keep working.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

0:24:59.400 --> 0:25:01.879
<v Speaker 2>Good things going happened for him because the talent is

0:25:02.200 --> 0:25:05.720
<v Speaker 2>the talent is there. It's oozing out of them. So man,

0:25:05.880 --> 0:25:06.760
<v Speaker 2>just keep going. Bro.

0:25:07.440 --> 0:25:10.960
<v Speaker 3>Anybody that's gone through adversity understands this. Oh yo.

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<v Speaker 2>I was seventh round draft pick. They said I was

0:25:13.480 --> 0:25:16.200
<v Speaker 2>gonna go somewhere between round one and three. And I

0:25:16.280 --> 0:25:18.119
<v Speaker 2>looked at all them guys that went before me and.

0:25:18.119 --> 0:25:19.639
<v Speaker 3>A lot of guys that I had played with. In

0:25:19.720 --> 0:25:22.080
<v Speaker 3>the bowl game, I went. I went to the East

0:25:22.080 --> 0:25:22.720
<v Speaker 3>West Shrine Game.

0:25:22.760 --> 0:25:25.000
<v Speaker 2>I was one of the few Division of two guys

0:25:25.040 --> 0:25:26.879
<v Speaker 2>that went to the that went to a bowl that

0:25:27.160 --> 0:25:28.679
<v Speaker 2>I went to the Blue Gray Game. Back then, they

0:25:28.760 --> 0:25:30.359
<v Speaker 2>used to have a Blue Gray Game OCHO that played

0:25:30.400 --> 0:25:33.400
<v Speaker 2>on Christmas Day. I was the only Division two guy

0:25:33.440 --> 0:25:35.399
<v Speaker 2>and if I'm not mistaken, black college guy and that

0:25:35.560 --> 0:25:41.480
<v Speaker 2>one it was in Montgomery, Alabama cold. Then I go

0:25:41.560 --> 0:25:43.240
<v Speaker 2>to the East West Shrine game. I really wanted to

0:25:43.240 --> 0:25:45.160
<v Speaker 2>play the East West Shrine game because my brother played

0:25:45.160 --> 0:25:46.639
<v Speaker 2>in that game, and not a whole lot of brothers

0:25:47.200 --> 0:25:52.119
<v Speaker 2>combination played in bowl game and so and to see them, guys,

0:25:53.480 --> 0:25:55.479
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, man, you went to this place, you went

0:25:55.560 --> 0:25:58.880
<v Speaker 2>to that place, Bro, you'd have been the second, the second,

0:25:58.960 --> 0:26:02.800
<v Speaker 2>the third receiver. Savanna I've been Oh no, I'm being

0:26:02.880 --> 0:26:07.720
<v Speaker 2>real and I'm I'm just remember thinking, like I remember

0:26:07.760 --> 0:26:09.359
<v Speaker 2>calling my brother says, spank, I'm better than all these

0:26:09.440 --> 0:26:12.320
<v Speaker 2>dudes here. I said, I'm better than all of them.

0:26:12.880 --> 0:26:14.639
<v Speaker 2>I said, hell a bright there when we played tight end,

0:26:14.640 --> 0:26:15.919
<v Speaker 2>I can play tight end, and I'm better than all

0:26:15.960 --> 0:26:19.040
<v Speaker 2>the do right here, draft come along, I go see him.

0:26:19.280 --> 0:26:20.720
<v Speaker 2>You know you go combine, no shoe, you know you

0:26:20.840 --> 0:26:22.520
<v Speaker 2>run the line, and you know you catching and all

0:26:22.560 --> 0:26:25.280
<v Speaker 2>that stuff. Hey, we ain't got no technique, coacho. I'm

0:26:25.320 --> 0:26:27.760
<v Speaker 2>just out there just rock down, knowing if somebody give

0:26:27.800 --> 0:26:29.639
<v Speaker 2>me an op, like somebody like, okay, teach me how

0:26:29.680 --> 0:26:32.960
<v Speaker 2>to run rode okay, this foot up, this foot back, okay,

0:26:33.160 --> 0:26:36.280
<v Speaker 2>you know ten, roll to twelve drop you know, Okay,

0:26:39.000 --> 0:26:42.840
<v Speaker 2>sus spank man, all them dudes I saw, go back

0:26:42.840 --> 0:26:44.440
<v Speaker 2>and look at the wide receivers in my draft, look

0:26:44.440 --> 0:26:51.160
<v Speaker 2>at the tight ends in my draft. Oh and every

0:26:51.200 --> 0:26:56.280
<v Speaker 2>time I played against him? What oh yeah, oh yeah,

0:26:56.480 --> 0:26:58.800
<v Speaker 2>for sure, for sure they.

0:26:58.760 --> 0:26:59.240
<v Speaker 3>Needed to know.

0:27:00.240 --> 0:27:02.560
<v Speaker 2>All y'all got a little extra dollars, But y'all ain't

0:27:02.560 --> 0:27:05.200
<v Speaker 2>gonna make money as long as me. Y'all about to

0:27:05.240 --> 0:27:10.480
<v Speaker 2>be up out of here. So hopefully your dore, Like

0:27:10.600 --> 0:27:13.400
<v Speaker 2>I said, there's a mess pressure because of his last

0:27:13.480 --> 0:27:14.080
<v Speaker 2>name is Dad.

0:27:14.440 --> 0:27:14.679
<v Speaker 3>I had.

0:27:14.800 --> 0:27:17.200
<v Speaker 2>Look, I came in two years after my brother. My

0:27:17.280 --> 0:27:19.000
<v Speaker 2>brother was the first team off when I got drafted.

0:27:19.040 --> 0:27:20.479
<v Speaker 2>My brother was first team off pro that year.

0:27:21.640 --> 0:27:21.959
<v Speaker 3>M hm.

0:27:24.160 --> 0:27:27.440
<v Speaker 2>He led the league in catchers and yards. No catching

0:27:27.520 --> 0:27:30.160
<v Speaker 2>and touchdowns, no yard. You know, he led the league

0:27:30.160 --> 0:27:37.320
<v Speaker 2>in catchers and yards. So man, man, that's man. Why

0:27:37.400 --> 0:27:39.320
<v Speaker 2>he why he go to Savannah State?

0:27:39.520 --> 0:27:41.120
<v Speaker 3>Man? Why he ain't no high draft pick?

0:27:42.040 --> 0:27:47.520
<v Speaker 2>Don't worry about that. You about to see Henna. So

0:27:48.080 --> 0:27:50.199
<v Speaker 2>but I I just don't, don't, don't y'all ain't got

0:27:50.280 --> 0:27:53.000
<v Speaker 2>to lie on the man. If y'all don't. If you

0:27:53.040 --> 0:27:56.159
<v Speaker 2>don't want something on yoe, let's just say, okay, you

0:27:56.280 --> 0:28:00.360
<v Speaker 2>go to a restaurant. Okay, you ain't got to if

0:28:00.400 --> 0:28:02.480
<v Speaker 2>you didn't like, if you don't like what they have,

0:28:03.000 --> 0:28:05.680
<v Speaker 2>you ain't got to say the restaurant bad without trying it.

0:28:06.400 --> 0:28:08.120
<v Speaker 3>Just say what They didn't have anything on the menu

0:28:08.240 --> 0:28:13.040
<v Speaker 3>that I liked? Cool? Man, Man, it was dirty service

0:28:13.160 --> 0:28:14.480
<v Speaker 3>was this? And man, the.

0:28:15.960 --> 0:28:18.360
<v Speaker 2>Waitress, you know, she gave me your attitude. I asked

0:28:18.400 --> 0:28:23.600
<v Speaker 2>for some water. This is she kissing her teeth. Come on,

0:28:23.680 --> 0:28:26.119
<v Speaker 2>you ain't gonna do all that. Man, they really have

0:28:26.200 --> 0:28:30.120
<v Speaker 2>anything on the menu that I like. So but hey, okay, cool,

0:28:30.680 --> 0:28:32.879
<v Speaker 2>move it along. But to try to do this to

0:28:32.960 --> 0:28:33.720
<v Speaker 2>the man, come on.

0:28:33.840 --> 0:28:37.560
<v Speaker 1>Now, you know one thing, this was a blessing in disguise.

0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:42.239
<v Speaker 2>And Joe, you and I both said, it ain't how

0:28:42.280 --> 0:28:45.400
<v Speaker 2>high you go, it's work and what you do when

0:28:45.440 --> 0:28:51.280
<v Speaker 2>you get there, that's it. But look he look, his

0:28:51.480 --> 0:28:54.400
<v Speaker 2>dad is preparing him for this. He's guess what he's

0:28:54.440 --> 0:28:56.120
<v Speaker 2>been deon sand the son As long as that it

0:28:56.200 --> 0:28:58.080
<v Speaker 2>hadn't been, he hadn't been anything.

0:28:58.160 --> 0:29:01.000
<v Speaker 3>But so the criticist him, it's always been.

0:29:01.080 --> 0:29:03.560
<v Speaker 1>Always, which is why he gonna be all right. He

0:29:03.720 --> 0:29:06.720
<v Speaker 1>been dealing with adversity and the obstacles for a long time,

0:29:07.720 --> 0:29:08.360
<v Speaker 1>very long time.

0:29:08.440 --> 0:29:14.040
<v Speaker 3>So this is nothing new. I just I just hate,

0:29:14.080 --> 0:29:16.040
<v Speaker 3>I just hate, oh Joe, when when people do stuff

0:29:16.120 --> 0:29:17.200
<v Speaker 3>like that, Joe, you know what I'm saying.

0:29:17.560 --> 0:29:20.760
<v Speaker 2>Quiet, Like I said, if if you if you don't

0:29:20.800 --> 0:29:23.960
<v Speaker 2>think he fits your culture, cool, I got no problem

0:29:24.000 --> 0:29:24.160
<v Speaker 2>with that.

0:29:24.440 --> 0:29:26.080
<v Speaker 3>I ain't saying draft anybody that.

0:29:26.160 --> 0:29:29.080
<v Speaker 2>You don't think can be beneficial. But you don't have

0:29:29.280 --> 0:29:32.640
<v Speaker 2>to come up with these excuses. Just say, hey, we

0:29:32.720 --> 0:29:34.840
<v Speaker 2>didn't have him, we didn't have him rated that high.

0:29:35.160 --> 0:29:36.760
<v Speaker 2>We thought he was a Day two selection.

0:29:37.960 --> 0:29:41.560
<v Speaker 3>Cool. Ain't no problem with that. On yo, got no

0:29:41.680 --> 0:29:42.520
<v Speaker 3>problem whatsoever.

0:29:43.240 --> 0:29:46.840
<v Speaker 2>But it's the oh, the arrogance and you know, the

0:29:47.000 --> 0:29:52.240
<v Speaker 2>brashness and the jewelry. Guys have nil deals, guys making

0:29:52.280 --> 0:29:54.960
<v Speaker 2>three four five million dollars. Now, ain't nobody broke like

0:29:55.040 --> 0:29:56.400
<v Speaker 2>we was when we came out of school.

0:29:56.800 --> 0:29:58.520
<v Speaker 3>It's a lot different. Yeah.

0:29:58.640 --> 0:30:03.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but they're gonna they're gonna criticize and scrutinize to

0:30:03.480 --> 0:30:05.800
<v Speaker 2>the to the highest man. Yeah, I mean, what what

0:30:05.920 --> 0:30:07.600
<v Speaker 2>do you what are you making four five million dollars

0:30:07.600 --> 0:30:10.480
<v Speaker 2>in n i OL money there? So yeah, you're gonna

0:30:10.480 --> 0:30:11.920
<v Speaker 2>he gonna have a color of that, he gonna have

0:30:12.320 --> 0:30:16.800
<v Speaker 2>a lambo or whatever else. He had out there. Hell,

0:30:16.840 --> 0:30:18.240
<v Speaker 2>I went to school, Like I said, ye had a

0:30:18.280 --> 0:30:24.280
<v Speaker 2>pickup truck. You had a pickup truck, pickup accustomed deluxe. Hey,

0:30:24.360 --> 0:30:26.760
<v Speaker 2>I had an actor intager, a little hashbag.

0:30:27.320 --> 0:30:27.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:30:27.600 --> 0:30:29.680
<v Speaker 2>See hey, they can't get on the road and had

0:30:29.760 --> 0:30:31.400
<v Speaker 2>no problem. I got in there freeway. It was a

0:30:31.400 --> 0:30:31.960
<v Speaker 2>stick shift.

0:30:32.680 --> 0:30:37.320
<v Speaker 3>Hey, hey, you like you like you like man? You

0:30:37.880 --> 0:30:38.560
<v Speaker 3>man listen.

0:30:39.080 --> 0:30:42.040
<v Speaker 2>So uh going to my sophomore year, my auntie was like,

0:30:42.120 --> 0:30:43.800
<v Speaker 2>you can come get my car because she worked at

0:30:43.800 --> 0:30:45.560
<v Speaker 2>a car running place, so she drove a different car

0:30:45.640 --> 0:30:47.960
<v Speaker 2>every day. So like cool, I get over there to

0:30:48.000 --> 0:30:50.120
<v Speaker 2>get the cars a stick shift. I'm like, man, I

0:30:50.200 --> 0:30:54.920
<v Speaker 2>can't drive no stick You learned quick, though, did you?

0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:57.800
<v Speaker 2>I called my uncle, my uncle Tracy. He came over there,

0:30:58.240 --> 0:31:01.360
<v Speaker 2>and uh, we drove around Twin Lakes, the neighborhood. We

0:31:01.440 --> 0:31:03.920
<v Speaker 2>drove around neighborhood for like thirty minutes, Oh Joe. Then

0:31:03.960 --> 0:31:06.440
<v Speaker 2>I got on the freeway, shot out to Fedville two

0:31:06.480 --> 0:31:09.600
<v Speaker 2>and a half hour. What didn't know nothing by no

0:31:09.720 --> 0:31:10.240
<v Speaker 2>stick shell?

0:31:10.320 --> 0:31:10.520
<v Speaker 3>Boy?

0:31:10.600 --> 0:31:10.760
<v Speaker 4>Hey?

0:31:10.960 --> 0:31:13.520
<v Speaker 2>Because see when you get on the highway that you cool.

0:31:13.560 --> 0:31:17.400
<v Speaker 2>It's when you're getting in the traffic, trafficway.

0:31:17.640 --> 0:31:19.760
<v Speaker 3>City traffic. When you got a doll just got you

0:31:19.800 --> 0:31:22.560
<v Speaker 3>got a dillaship. It took me by the hole.

0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:24.200
<v Speaker 2>It took me about a good two weeks before I

0:31:24.200 --> 0:31:25.440
<v Speaker 2>can figure out how to get around up.

0:31:25.480 --> 0:31:28.800
<v Speaker 3>And then you gotta understand where the clutch of the

0:31:28.840 --> 0:31:29.280
<v Speaker 3>break is.

0:31:29.520 --> 0:31:32.680
<v Speaker 2>Heyok, once you get the hang of it, it's yeah,

0:31:32.680 --> 0:31:34.440
<v Speaker 2>it's nothing once you get the hang of it.

0:31:34.520 --> 0:31:36.040
<v Speaker 3>But boy, to start off, it's tough.

0:31:36.200 --> 0:31:36.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:31:36.520 --> 0:31:42.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's the thing. You're like that thing cut out

0:31:42.720 --> 0:31:46.520
<v Speaker 3>on your traffic too. They blow, Hey Joe, they're blowing

0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:51.000
<v Speaker 3>all right, all right? Damn Yeah, yeah, I had a

0:31:51.040 --> 0:31:51.680
<v Speaker 3>whole lot of that.

0:31:52.040 --> 0:31:53.880
<v Speaker 2>Hey see, I grew up on a farm, so, you know,

0:31:54.080 --> 0:31:56.640
<v Speaker 2>driving the tractor, but the girls are floor so you

0:31:56.960 --> 0:32:00.480
<v Speaker 2>you ain't nobody behind your damn feel so you go

0:32:00.560 --> 0:32:04.480
<v Speaker 2>to that road A So I kind of knew my

0:32:04.600 --> 0:32:07.440
<v Speaker 2>brother had that M three. I never get M nineteen

0:32:07.440 --> 0:32:09.760
<v Speaker 2>eighty eight. He got an M three was eighty eight,

0:32:09.800 --> 0:32:13.760
<v Speaker 2>eighty eighty seven. It was eighty seven. Because we were

0:32:13.760 --> 0:32:17.040
<v Speaker 2>still at the old house. Man he dropped it off, said, man,

0:32:17.960 --> 0:32:19.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna let you. I let you drive it for

0:32:19.520 --> 0:32:21.000
<v Speaker 2>a little while. You let me know when you want

0:32:21.000 --> 0:32:23.520
<v Speaker 2>me to come back and get it. I ain't even Joe.

0:32:23.560 --> 0:32:24.960
<v Speaker 2>I ain't even te him I didn't know how to drive,

0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:30.480
<v Speaker 2>or hey, I learned how to drive over to F

0:32:30.560 --> 0:32:33.400
<v Speaker 2>three Man, I got out there. Hey my sister say

0:32:33.480 --> 0:32:36.320
<v Speaker 2>teaching me, I said, I'm trying to learn myself.

0:32:39.040 --> 0:32:39.280
<v Speaker 4>Bad.

0:32:39.400 --> 0:32:46.120
<v Speaker 3>He after about probably like you said, a couple of hours. Yeah, God,

0:32:46.200 --> 0:32:53.400
<v Speaker 3>I was, Hey, that was me. Boy.

0:32:53.560 --> 0:32:55.840
<v Speaker 2>Listen, do you learn how to shift them gears? It's

0:32:55.880 --> 0:32:58.960
<v Speaker 2>around it around the NASCAR the way he be coming.

0:32:58.800 --> 0:32:59.760
<v Speaker 3>Through that thing. Oh man.

0:33:00.320 --> 0:33:02.600
<v Speaker 2>And then I was in college he dropped the porches

0:33:02.600 --> 0:33:05.960
<v Speaker 2>office like, hey man, you know, hey, floss around jo

0:33:06.040 --> 0:33:10.840
<v Speaker 2>I gotta tell me that you right here know I'm

0:33:10.920 --> 0:33:15.160
<v Speaker 2>dropping convertible of porches nine thirty nine eleven slant note.

0:33:16.840 --> 0:33:19.400
<v Speaker 3>Couldn't up. Huh huh.

0:33:23.520 --> 0:33:24.160
<v Speaker 2>The volume