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Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison number four, Big Game, Tory hol number five.
Speaker 3: The Greatest Entertainment of all time.
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Speaker 3: hold on? Who who who wo?
Speaker 1: Wo? Whoa whoa wo?
Speaker 3: What life is gerald? Yep? Listen that Cholvin John Longe
Speaker 3: hold on?
Speaker 1: They And there was an argument of by this earlier,
Speaker 1: earlier all day on Twitter, obviously on my timeline, because
Speaker 1: I said, the hell if that take me out and
Speaker 1: put Andre Johnson now they also, I love, I love
Speaker 1: Aan Kuanna what he did for the game, but as
Speaker 1: something Captain Johnson has to be on there somewhere as well.
Speaker 3: What about laughing you just got the third both catch Larry.
Speaker 1: For Jerald has to be there as well. But then
Speaker 1: people said it's the two thousands. So the two thousands,
Speaker 1: I think Mega Tron only got maybe three years because
Speaker 1: I think he came in and I forgot what year
Speaker 1: he got drafted. I think he came in he only
Speaker 1: had three years of.
Speaker 3: How many years? How many years are one? Who years?
Speaker 2: Was a laughish yer behind an Kwan because I think
Speaker 2: I think I think Fitts was like one year behind
Speaker 2: an Kwan.
Speaker 1: It's it's, it's it's a mother ship. Derek Mason, Derek,
Speaker 1: Derek Mason should be on there too.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: I don't think people understand d make puting.
Speaker 3: Some work man? What that man, Julio Jones.
Speaker 1: You're talking about two thousands though Jo.
Speaker 2: And Kwan was two thousand and three. Then what you saying?
Speaker 2: Julio one in two thousand? I think no, Jolio came
Speaker 2: into twenty twenty him and A J.
Speaker 3: Green. Yeah ah ah mm hmm yeah, I like it.
Speaker 1: I like it. I should have I should have been
Speaker 1: higher though, I should have.
Speaker 3: Who okay, who you? Who you?
Speaker 2: Who are you replacing you? Replacing mass t o uh
Speaker 2: Marvin or Tory.
Speaker 1: Holt like just off entertainment alone. I'm number one.
Speaker 3: Who you were taking out?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put I just.
Speaker 3: Told you so, you're gonna put you in.
Speaker 1: You know when when we talk about numerical order, right,
Speaker 1: doesn't everything start with zero?
Speaker 3: No, it starts with one. Okay, but before one is zero?
Speaker 3: Who zero? Is that the z? Roy? You ain't zero?
Speaker 3: You don't want to be zero?
Speaker 1: So it's me then then t O, then Moss, then
Speaker 1: whatever or do you want to do?
Speaker 3: Mm hmm you know zero is the negative? Nothing?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: Listen?
Speaker 1: I was, I was have a quick comeback, but I
Speaker 1: missed it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you, I think you want to be
Speaker 2: so if we ate, so we gotta take, We're gonna take.
Speaker 1: Hell, no, boy, were you taking off wood? That's right?
Speaker 3: Hey, listen.
Speaker 1: I specifically said entertainment and fun value only. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: mad at the top.
Speaker 3: That's it. But that that was a good list. I
Speaker 3: very fortunate enough that I was.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: I saw all these guys.
Speaker 2: That's all these guys, Randy, t O, Marvin played against Randy.
Speaker 2: I never played against t O, played against Marvin, played
Speaker 2: against Holt played against O.
Speaker 3: Joe.
Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, Kelly.
Speaker 2: What's hands on it? What's hands on? What did the
Speaker 2: time you get hands was on that team in ninety eight, Hey,
Speaker 2: I know he's that team in two thousand. Tell Joe
Speaker 2: what I did, y'all? We played, y'all.
Speaker 3: That's why I was the name. Nothing lost so long?
Speaker 3: Who had the big game?
Speaker 1: But I did what I did, y'all when we played, y'all,
Speaker 1: I wasn't there was in Baltimore.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we y'all. What I did to you? I think
Speaker 3: I think you might have had like three? But how
Speaker 3: many TVs?
Speaker 2: How many catches? Oh you're having two thousand and one
Speaker 2: against because we beat the Heller? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Hey,
Speaker 2: pull them numbers up, Ash, It wasn't no, honey, that's
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 3: Got what out of my rookie year? That's okay. You
Speaker 3: woul learned that target like you had too. Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1: I bet how much I had? Ask how much I had?
Speaker 3: What do you have? Ask? Fifty five sixty yards? I
Speaker 3: had about by two thirty? No, he didn't playing the
Speaker 3: Baltimore game, I did. Yeah. I think you might have
Speaker 3: called a touchdown against us in two thousand. I sure did.
Speaker 3: That's what I would do. I catch it. That was
Speaker 3: at Denver then, But we beat hell out, y'all. Are
Speaker 3: you were gone?
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, you asked seven targets, three catches for twenty
Speaker 2: eight yards against us?
Speaker 3: It was what I have? What I have? As Hey?
Speaker 1: That boy was skating out there.
Speaker 2: What against Baltimore. Oh, oh, Joe, you do realize, Oh Joe,
Speaker 2: you didn't even you did. Y'all didn't even score.
Speaker 3: I ain't score. It was zero. Y'all had zero. Again,
Speaker 3: since you like zeros, y'all had that. Hold on what year?
Speaker 2: This was two thousand and one? Yep, seven targets, three catches,
Speaker 2: twenty eight yards.
Speaker 3: What I have I do? I have me a tub, sweet.
Speaker 1: Tub to the other five catches, I ain't catch them.
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, you had that was four targets.
Speaker 2: I mean because I said you had seven targets, you
Speaker 2: had three catches, so it wasn't five.
Speaker 3: You in math didn't do too good. That was four.
Speaker 3: You didn't catch. No, No, I ain't dropped no ball.
Speaker 1: Now that's one thing I ain't do.
Speaker 3: I ain't dropped the money. I ain't dropped the money.
Speaker 1: My head on my hands was like glue.
Speaker 2: You hit me at a tub? Oh I scored in
Speaker 2: two thousand and one? Oh that was two thousand or
Speaker 2: I had three targets, three catches thirty two yards.
Speaker 3: So you see the difference. Three targets, three catches.
Speaker 1: Well you play hold on, hold on, you gotta understand
Speaker 1: what defense I was going against This was the Baltimore Ravens. Man,
Speaker 1: I ain't really I ain't really get y'all skipped.
Speaker 3: No, no, you didn't. You didn't get the two thousand
Speaker 3: based Ravens defense. You got the old what same thing?
Speaker 1: Y'all wasn't missing too many pieces, man, y'all wasn't missing
Speaker 1: too any.
Speaker 3: Oh what did he do?
Speaker 2: What he do the second time? Because that was the
Speaker 2: home game? I think there, what do you doing? Because
Speaker 2: I think he had a touchdown. He probably had a
Speaker 2: touchdown the second time.
Speaker 1: Every time I play all of the score. Now, that's
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do. No, you didn't you had the
Speaker 1: twenty eight Measley yards. You ain't even have it the
Speaker 1: first down. That's my rookie year. They were just introducing
Speaker 1: me to y'all. You know when you first meet somebody, Joe, y'all.
Speaker 1: They didn't want to get they didn't.
Speaker 3: Want to put me out. Oh Joe. The first time
Speaker 3: y'all played, you had one target, no catchers.
Speaker 1: Man, that's it. Oh you know what, because see that's
Speaker 1: my rookie year. So they ain't really introduce me to y'all.
Speaker 1: Oh that was the second time that was having that game?
Speaker 3: What happened. What I did? What I did?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, eight, I had twelve targets, eight catches. You
Speaker 2: had one target, no catches. You out there, he was
Speaker 2: out there bull hiving.
Speaker 1: Hey wa yeah, what year was that?
Speaker 3: Two thousand and one? The year you asked my lookie here,
Speaker 3: what that got? What I did after that? Though? What
Speaker 3: I did after that, I don't know. I wasn't there.
Speaker 3: I was in Denver.
Speaker 2: Now you want to say what we did in different
Speaker 2: we played all in two thousand two. Well, yeah, I know,
Speaker 2: I know, I know you lost.
Speaker 3: I didn't know. I know that. I don't know what
Speaker 3: the numbers, but.
Speaker 1: Women numbers looked like, asked what I did in Denver? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you got a touchdown, but I do I
Speaker 1: cast touchdowns.
Speaker 3: But we beat y'all.
Speaker 1: Okay, we talked about from an individual standpoint, I can't
Speaker 1: control I can't control the team.
Speaker 3: No regular season we played in two thousand and three. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: what I did then?
Speaker 1: What I did then, because hey, by the time two
Speaker 1: thousand and three came, Joe, like I had fully arrived.
Speaker 3: Like I was, like, I knocked, Okay, what would it?
Speaker 3: What do you do? Because that was car I think
Speaker 3: that that was Carson, your Carson we have. Hey, Hey,
Speaker 3: what year did you change your name though? To you?
Speaker 1: I think maybe two thousand and seven. I just wonder
Speaker 1: if you'd have played the Baltimore Ravens in two thousand.
Speaker 1: We made him change it back. Hey, Joe, listen, I
Speaker 1: changed my name simply for marketing and branding purposes only.
Speaker 3: That's all.
Speaker 2: Oh two thousand, Oh Joe, you had ten targets, six catches,
Speaker 2: ninety five yards of a touchdown.
Speaker 3: That was me? That was all right? What was what
Speaker 3: was this? What happened was the goo ash? Thirty to ten?
Speaker 3: Was the score or bus stop?
Speaker 1: So I was the only one that scored, Yes, And
Speaker 1: it was late in the game when you scored. It
Speaker 1: don't matter how long as I got in there. Sometimes
Speaker 1: you listen. Sometimes sometimes you gotta. When you go on
Speaker 1: a date, sometimes you know, you know, you get the
Speaker 1: first base, sometime you get the second.
Speaker 2: That's all right, Hey, Joe, I don't want to tell nobody,
Speaker 2: but we had to call the dolls off.
Speaker 3: He scored with a minute left in the ball throw. Yeah,
Speaker 3: ain't had no choice but the throw. I don't know
Speaker 3: what you had. You had a choice. You had four
Speaker 3: quarters and you had time to do something before the
Speaker 3: we beat the brakes onthing. Oh Joe, you still celebrated
Speaker 3: on them?
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, no, no, Listen. One thing I always did, Joe,
Speaker 1: is I never celebrated, never did a celebration if we
Speaker 1: were losing. Only if we were to tie the game
Speaker 1: or we scored first, or was it to go up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I ain't played like that. Well, you ain't
Speaker 3: do no celebrating against on the teams. I would loose that.
Speaker 3: Oh cho, man, you're lucky.
Speaker 1: Listen, you lucky. We didn't cross path like at the
Speaker 1: same time like you would use on the back end,
Speaker 1: And I was coming in. If I play during your
Speaker 1: row like during man, I would have sought your ass up.
Speaker 2: But boy, oh Joe, I was like I would. I'm
Speaker 2: good for having tubs against Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: Kell.
Speaker 1: You have to understand. You have to understand.
Speaker 2: We played what two thousand, dropped two and what we
Speaker 2: do in two thousands before you got there, Ojo. Then
Speaker 2: before you got there, we beat the break.
Speaker 1: You have to understand how bad Cincinnati was back then.
Speaker 1: Not understanding that, Joe, that that's not fair.
Speaker 2: So we your defense still suspect. I mean, y'all got
Speaker 2: some great offense players with Joe and Chase and Higgins.
Speaker 2: But that defense dang had damn Oh my bad o jo.
Speaker 2: We beat y'all thirty seven zero in two thousand.
Speaker 3: I've caught twicet twice. I already know that I don't
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, Our Moss Darryl Williams, Hey.
Speaker 3: Will it boy, not me?
Speaker 2: He talked me in the end z on he had
Speaker 2: the spelled the ownerant though I think it spelled the
Speaker 2: owneran joke. They're gonna spell the ownerate cause the reference
Speaker 2: gonna do that. I had about four catching. I had
Speaker 2: about four catches about fifty yard two tubs man. Not
Speaker 2: in Cincinnati in two thousand. No you talking about I'm
Speaker 2: just the first game, first game, hit like a two yarder. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the game in Cincinnati, the thirty seven nothing, that's when
Speaker 2: it noted the Keilly Smith. That's when Robertnette hit a
Speaker 2: Kelley Smith that knocked him out of the game. Y'all
Speaker 2: about have had like forty yards that game.
Speaker 3: The hell you say? I called two touchdowns that game
Speaker 3: in two thousand, I did play. Yeah it is it
Speaker 3: is in two thousand. Yeah, let me let me go. Lord,
Speaker 3: have no see what I said as.
Speaker 2: Try to short change me my numbers, Joe, I ain't play.
Speaker 2: That's what I think I'm gonna know. Uh Ravens m hm,
Speaker 2: Okay what it is? Get them right, man, Let them know. Yeah,
Speaker 2: ad tried to short change me. We beat them twenty
Speaker 2: seven seven.
Speaker 4: No no, no, no, no, no, okay Shannon sharp seven
Speaker 4: for sixty sixty six and two touchdowns.
Speaker 3: Ayess who the Ravens. I ain't play, y'all.
Speaker 2: In two thousand, that was that's when as a matter
Speaker 2: of fact, that's when Corey Dillon ran broke the record
Speaker 2: against the Broncos. He ran for two seventy five to
Speaker 2: seventy six. Because the record with Walter Payton to seventy five.
Speaker 2: Who broke OJ's record like two seventy three? But don't
Speaker 2: worry about it, don't Joe?
Speaker 3: Hey?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 3: Hey? I was that boy?
Speaker 1: And Joe you missed it.
Speaker 2: Saint Kwon Barclay's iconic reverse hurdle is the cover of
Speaker 2: the Madden NFL. That's why I mean, this is the
Speaker 2: second hold on. This is the second straight year a
Speaker 2: running back had been on the cover. Christian McCaffrey being
Speaker 2: the athlete on Madden NFL twenty five that sparked the
Speaker 2: debate of the infamous Madden Curse once more. Uh. This
Speaker 2: is the first time a member of the Jacksonville Jag
Speaker 2: has been on the cover of a Madden I'll bet
Speaker 2: as a person being hurdled.
Speaker 3: Damn. Hey, the person getting hurdled.
Speaker 1: Hey, he got to be upset about that.
Speaker 3: Boy, he got to be upset about.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he he'll mortealized. He made That's like that
Speaker 2: Jordan push off o Joe.
Speaker 3: Russell, you wanted to push off. He just he just
Speaker 3: guided him a little bit out of the way. Well
Speaker 3: he only yeah, that that's what he guided him. That's
Speaker 3: album it is, it is.
Speaker 1: I just left. We were at Geno Steakhouse to night,
Speaker 1: uh and they turned it into kun uh Chi stak
Speaker 1: It was really really, really really dope.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Event I was able to congratulate Sae Quon on being
Speaker 1: the cover athlete and we talked about the Madden Curse.
Speaker 3: Josh Allen was going to cover.
Speaker 1: Didn't get hurt when not not too long ago, John
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago.
Speaker 3: E didn't get hurt.
Speaker 1: Pastor Mahome was on the cover previously, he didn't get hurt.
Speaker 1: So I think sa Quan is safe. Uh, there have
Speaker 1: been players that have that have had small injuries, nothing.
Speaker 3: To where he missed a lot of time.
Speaker 1: So I think we got to do it with the
Speaker 1: whole Madden curse thing, and sa Quan is the one
Speaker 1: that take care of his body, doesn't really.
Speaker 3: Get hurt much.
Speaker 1: He has in the past, but recently he hasn't been hurt.
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be all right, And I honestly
Speaker 1: think there's a good chance that they might repeat. But
Speaker 1: being at the commanders have gotten better, being that Dallas
Speaker 1: has gotten better, you know, obviously adding George Piggins. I'm
Speaker 1: from an offensive standpoint, I'm not sure how they would
Speaker 1: look defensively. I'm excited. I'm excited to see what that
Speaker 1: NFC NFC West looked like.
Speaker 2: Man, oh, Joe, y'all was good. God, y'all was terrible.
Speaker 2: Oh joy, y'all had one hundred and seventy four total
Speaker 2: yards that came.
Speaker 1: You?
Speaker 2: Was that.
Speaker 3: Two thousand?
Speaker 1: That's what they want to throw me at the ball?
Speaker 3: You wasn't even there?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I wasn't there yet.
Speaker 3: You better be glad you were. If I was, the
Speaker 3: Dowcome would have been different. I can tell you that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: used to be raising hell when that ball don't come
Speaker 3: your way.
Speaker 1: I think I might have maybe two instances like that.
Speaker 3: One.
Speaker 1: It was a playoff game. We were playing the Steelers.
Speaker 1: When Carson went down. I was very frustrated. So you
Speaker 1: have to get your production from somewhere when a quarterback
Speaker 1: of that magnitude playbook. The playbook changes significantly when the
Speaker 1: second quarterback comes in. So at that point, now I'm
Speaker 1: feeling put me in positions to make up for not
Speaker 1: having him in, and we weren't able to do that
Speaker 1: because we were playing the Steelers, and the Steelers that year,
Speaker 1: that five year, that defense, that defense.
Speaker 3: Joe, Oh my god.
Speaker 1: So I just wanted to be I wanted him to
Speaker 1: stop allowing them to dictate what we want to do.
Speaker 1: Let's dictate, y'all will go do nothing. So outside of that,
Speaker 1: I was really frustrated, Joe. Uh that that was one time,
Speaker 1: and it was another time, Oh, the same game, Joe,
Speaker 1: I got I got mad in the same game. Well, well,
Speaker 1: that that was the one you was outing to fooling
Speaker 1: and a lot of that's what I just told Joe. Yeah, hey, Joe, boy,
Speaker 1: See now I could have said something see. I knew
Speaker 1: about this, but I ain't put it out there, Joe.
Speaker 1: So at that time I was on CBS and the
Speaker 1: word that came back to me, we got got. I said, no,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not one of those.
Speaker 3: I don't have the problem. You know, you know, like
Speaker 3: the ball not coming.
Speaker 1: I I'll be chilling, Joe, just that game, the magnitude
Speaker 1: of the game, and you allowing them to dictate to
Speaker 1: us what we want to do.
Speaker 3: You thought y'all would going to the Super Bowls office.
Speaker 1: I promise you, Hey, Joe, all I needed was the ball.
Speaker 2: Joe.
Speaker 1: Just put him in the hand, Joe, and listen, I
Speaker 1: wasn't I wasn't one of those guys A catching a
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty and hundred three passes the season. Ninety
Speaker 1: You give me three or football is a game. I'm
Speaker 1: good because two of them. Oh, I'm finna get Jiggy
Speaker 1: a bunch of catches that.
Speaker 3: Shit, Ocho.
Speaker 2: Since we stayed on the Bengals, your quarterback Joe Burrow,
Speaker 2: who has four nine hundred and eighteen passing yards led
Speaker 2: the league forty three touchdowns led the league, said the
Speaker 2: Bengals would have made the playoff last year if he
Speaker 2: had played better. If I played even better, we wouldn't
Speaker 2: have been in the spot where we were well that
Speaker 2: we were in. I just got to focus on getting
Speaker 2: better myself, and I feel like everyone in the locker
Speaker 2: room feel the same way. If I go out there
Speaker 2: and play better than I did last year, then it
Speaker 2: doesn't matter what goes on anywhere. Like that.
Speaker 3: I'm glad he took that's quarterback. Joe played quarterback.
Speaker 2: It was just he had some constantly turnovers at the
Speaker 2: most inopportunity times. And you know when you playing catch
Speaker 2: up Ocho, or you got the lead. Because that Baltimore game,
Speaker 2: the first time that y'all played there, Ojo, y'all had
Speaker 2: a lead, and he had some costly he had a
Speaker 2: costly he had a couple of costly turnal.
Speaker 3: I like, I love Joe. I like, you know what,
Speaker 3: as the leader, that's what you're supposed to got to
Speaker 3: say that.
Speaker 1: You got to say, and not very many will do that.
Speaker 3: Not very many will do that. You know what. I
Speaker 3: don't like that, Joe said. I don't like that. He
Speaker 3: said he's tired of.
Speaker 1: Playing at the Ravens home field in primetime games. M hmm,
Speaker 1: because I I for me as a competitor. I love
Speaker 1: playing away Ravens Steelers. Brown's matter of fact, Hell, I
Speaker 1: like playing away just in general, especially prime time. You mean,
Speaker 1: I get to be in a chaotic environment and the
Speaker 1: whole world is watching.
Speaker 3: I like that. But for some reason, so I just
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't like that.
Speaker 1: He said that because it makes me feel as if
Speaker 1: he has an issue playing the Ravens in general.
Speaker 2: I mean, hey, let let us get with him a
Speaker 2: little bit, one of the more prime time I mean, say,
Speaker 2: you don't mind having the Bengals in prime time, let
Speaker 2: them come to us in prime.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't care. I like, I like, I like being
Speaker 1: prime time and playing in Baltimore. So I'm finna send
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm finna send you home with a loss.
Speaker 1: And everybody got to sing. I mean, I'm looking at it.
Speaker 1: I look at it differently.
Speaker 2: Colorado coach Coach Prime said he was hurt by reports
Speaker 2: that said his son should do it. Was unprepared during
Speaker 2: the pre draft meetings with NFL teams, But he also
Speaker 2: isn't buying the valiity of them either. It did hurt,
Speaker 2: but the Bible says God uses the foolish thing to
Speaker 2: confound the wives. There are some foolish stuff that went on,
Speaker 2: but that gave them something that they needed, like that
Speaker 2: edge that Tom Brady had. It gave them that edge
Speaker 2: that you had. It gave them the edge that you have.
Speaker 2: Folks said we weren't gonna be nothing, but we had
Speaker 2: to prove prove them have You had to prove that.
Speaker 2: It gave him that edge that needed both of them.
Speaker 2: When you sit up there and say something like he
Speaker 2: went into the meetings unprepared, like dude shaud Door Sanders,
Speaker 2: who has had six different officive coordinators, who has the
Speaker 2: fult still function at a level every time we brought
Speaker 2: somebody innew And you're gonna tell me he was unprepared.
Speaker 3: You're gonna tell me he had on headphones.
Speaker 2: Anybody that knows my son to understand he's professional, He's
Speaker 2: going to go into the meeting with the headphones on.
Speaker 3: Y'all come on now. And so I knew bull drive.
Speaker 1: I knew they were shucking the drive and when they
Speaker 1: said it when the report came out, Because when you're
Speaker 1: going to a meeting like that with execs, with the
Speaker 1: higher level, higher level folks at an organization, you're going
Speaker 1: there a certain way. You ain't gonna have.
Speaker 3: You your phones on. You're gonna be prepared.
Speaker 1: You know, your coach and your father has already prepared
Speaker 1: you for that moment anyway, So what are we talking about?
Speaker 3: You know what I bet they did.
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, he probably had the headphones right and anything like,
Speaker 2: he had them on. I bet you that's what he needed.
Speaker 1: But you know, they gonna change it up when it
Speaker 1: come out. You know, the story gonna come out, pretend like.
Speaker 3: You just said. You know what, guys on our draft board,
Speaker 3: we didn't have him rated that high. We moved on.
Speaker 2: But they try to diminish the man, to try to
Speaker 2: come up with every use like he's upper professional like
Speaker 2: or he had you know, his brag adocious what man
Speaker 2: look cares y'all know, they probably could teach him a
Speaker 2: little a lot harder than they did.
Speaker 3: Of course they did. Yeah, absolutely, of course, of course.
Speaker 2: And from all I know is somebody through through those
Speaker 2: four thousand yards. All I knew is somebody had those
Speaker 2: thirty four, thirty five thirty what would have many touchdowns
Speaker 2: he threw four? Somebody did that. If somebody inherited a
Speaker 2: one and eleven or one in ten team, and within
Speaker 2: two years they had won nine games and they were
Speaker 2: in a bowl game. All I know he was the quarterback.
Speaker 2: I know Jackson State was better with him than they
Speaker 2: were before he got there. Spee, you was better with
Speaker 2: him than they were before he got there. Now, if
Speaker 2: he doesn't fit your program, oh Joe, if somebody doesn't
Speaker 2: fit your program but doesn't fit you, it's okay. You
Speaker 2: don't have to say anything negative about said person relationship
Speaker 2: for anything. If that not for you, okay, yeah, but
Speaker 2: you ain't got to try to You ain't got to
Speaker 2: try to dog them out to try to prop yourself up.
Speaker 3: You ain't have to do that to that man.
Speaker 1: Honestly, when it comes to the quarterback position, especially that
Speaker 1: team specifically, when it comes to picking quarterbacks, I mean,
Speaker 1: they've been missing for a very.
Speaker 2: Long time anyway, they ain't pick Nobody said Sea Life,
Speaker 2: so whoever said that, and the Browns y'all ain't did
Speaker 2: much better. Let's be real, y'all hadn't y'all really hadn't
Speaker 2: had a quarterback test, averdy. Since codes are in the
Speaker 2: supplemental draft in eighty four. Hey, look, I think this
Speaker 2: is gonna be good for him, though, Like I said,
Speaker 2: just the little stuff that I've seen Uncle Ojo. It
Speaker 2: seemed like, uh, you know, he got his head down
Speaker 2: and he's working.
Speaker 3: Man, he got it. That's all you can do. I
Speaker 3: know that's it.
Speaker 2: And I think that's a good thing for him. I know,
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure he hears the whispers, but he keep it.
Speaker 2: He keep his head down and keep working.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: Good things going happened for him because the talent is
Speaker 2: the talent is there. It's oozing out of them. So man,
Speaker 2: just keep going. Bro.
Speaker 3: Anybody that's gone through adversity understands this. Oh yo.
Speaker 2: I was seventh round draft pick. They said I was
Speaker 2: gonna go somewhere between round one and three. And I
Speaker 2: looked at all them guys that went before me and.
Speaker 3: A lot of guys that I had played with. In
Speaker 3: the bowl game, I went. I went to the East
Speaker 3: West Shrine Game.
Speaker 2: I was one of the few Division of two guys
Speaker 2: that went to the that went to a bowl that
Speaker 2: I went to the Blue Gray Game. Back then, they
Speaker 2: used to have a Blue Gray Game OCHO that played
Speaker 2: on Christmas Day. I was the only Division two guy
Speaker 2: and if I'm not mistaken, black college guy and that
Speaker 2: one it was in Montgomery, Alabama cold. Then I go
Speaker 2: to the East West Shrine game. I really wanted to
Speaker 2: play the East West Shrine game because my brother played
Speaker 2: in that game, and not a whole lot of brothers
Speaker 2: combination played in bowl game and so and to see them, guys,
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, you went to this place, you went
Speaker 2: to that place, Bro, you'd have been the second, the second,
Speaker 2: the third receiver. Savanna I've been Oh no, I'm being
Speaker 2: real and I'm I'm just remember thinking, like I remember
Speaker 2: calling my brother says, spank, I'm better than all these
Speaker 2: dudes here. I said, I'm better than all of them.
Speaker 2: I said, hell a bright there when we played tight end,
Speaker 2: I can play tight end, and I'm better than all
Speaker 2: the do right here, draft come along, I go see him.
Speaker 2: You know you go combine, no shoe, you know you
Speaker 2: run the line, and you know you catching and all
Speaker 2: that stuff. Hey, we ain't got no technique, coacho. I'm
Speaker 2: just out there just rock down, knowing if somebody give
Speaker 2: me an op, like somebody like, okay, teach me how
Speaker 2: to run rode okay, this foot up, this foot back, okay,
Speaker 2: you know ten, roll to twelve drop you know, Okay,
Speaker 2: sus spank man, all them dudes I saw, go back
Speaker 2: and look at the wide receivers in my draft, look
Speaker 2: at the tight ends in my draft. Oh and every
Speaker 2: time I played against him? What oh yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: for sure, for sure they.
Speaker 3: Needed to know.
Speaker 2: All y'all got a little extra dollars, But y'all ain't
Speaker 2: gonna make money as long as me. Y'all about to
Speaker 2: be up out of here. So hopefully your dore, Like
Speaker 2: I said, there's a mess pressure because of his last
Speaker 2: name is Dad.
Speaker 3: I had.
Speaker 2: Look, I came in two years after my brother. My
Speaker 2: brother was the first team off when I got drafted.
Speaker 2: My brother was first team off pro that year.
Speaker 3: M hm.
Speaker 2: He led the league in catchers and yards. No catching
Speaker 2: and touchdowns, no yard. You know, he led the league
Speaker 2: in catchers and yards. So man, man, that's man. Why
Speaker 2: he why he go to Savannah State?
Speaker 3: Man? Why he ain't no high draft pick?
Speaker 2: Don't worry about that. You about to see Henna. So
Speaker 2: but I I just don't, don't, don't y'all ain't got
Speaker 2: to lie on the man. If y'all don't. If you
Speaker 2: don't want something on yoe, let's just say, okay, you
Speaker 2: go to a restaurant. Okay, you ain't got to if
Speaker 2: you didn't like, if you don't like what they have,
Speaker 2: you ain't got to say the restaurant bad without trying it.
Speaker 3: Just say what They didn't have anything on the menu
Speaker 3: that I liked? Cool? Man, Man, it was dirty service
Speaker 3: was this? And man, the.
Speaker 2: Waitress, you know, she gave me your attitude. I asked
Speaker 2: for some water. This is she kissing her teeth. Come on,
Speaker 2: you ain't gonna do all that. Man, they really have
Speaker 2: anything on the menu that I like. So but hey, okay, cool,
Speaker 2: move it along. But to try to do this to
Speaker 2: the man, come on.
Speaker 1: Now, you know one thing, this was a blessing in disguise.
Speaker 2: And Joe, you and I both said, it ain't how
Speaker 2: high you go, it's work and what you do when
Speaker 2: you get there, that's it. But look he look, his
Speaker 2: dad is preparing him for this. He's guess what he's
Speaker 2: been deon sand the son As long as that it
Speaker 2: hadn't been, he hadn't been anything.
Speaker 3: But so the criticist him, it's always been.
Speaker 1: Always, which is why he gonna be all right. He
Speaker 1: been dealing with adversity and the obstacles for a long time,
Speaker 1: very long time.
Speaker 3: So this is nothing new. I just I just hate,
Speaker 3: I just hate, oh Joe, when when people do stuff
Speaker 3: like that, Joe, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Quiet, Like I said, if if you if you don't
Speaker 2: think he fits your culture, cool, I got no problem
Speaker 2: with that.
Speaker 3: I ain't saying draft anybody that.
Speaker 2: You don't think can be beneficial. But you don't have
Speaker 2: to come up with these excuses. Just say, hey, we
Speaker 2: didn't have him, we didn't have him rated that high.
Speaker 2: We thought he was a Day two selection.
Speaker 3: Cool. Ain't no problem with that. On yo, got no
Speaker 3: problem whatsoever.
Speaker 2: But it's the oh, the arrogance and you know, the
Speaker 2: brashness and the jewelry. Guys have nil deals, guys making
Speaker 2: three four five million dollars. Now, ain't nobody broke like
Speaker 2: we was when we came out of school.
Speaker 3: It's a lot different. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're gonna they're gonna criticize and scrutinize to
Speaker 2: the to the highest man. Yeah, I mean, what what
Speaker 2: do you what are you making four five million dollars
Speaker 2: in n i OL money there? So yeah, you're gonna
Speaker 2: he gonna have a color of that, he gonna have
Speaker 2: a lambo or whatever else. He had out there. Hell,
Speaker 2: I went to school, Like I said, ye had a
Speaker 2: pickup truck. You had a pickup truck, pickup accustomed deluxe. Hey,
Speaker 2: I had an actor intager, a little hashbag.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: See hey, they can't get on the road and had
Speaker 2: no problem. I got in there freeway. It was a
Speaker 2: stick shift.
Speaker 3: Hey, hey, you like you like you like man? You
Speaker 3: man listen.
Speaker 2: So uh going to my sophomore year, my auntie was like,
Speaker 2: you can come get my car because she worked at
Speaker 2: a car running place, so she drove a different car
Speaker 2: every day. So like cool, I get over there to
Speaker 2: get the cars a stick shift. I'm like, man, I
Speaker 2: can't drive no stick You learned quick, though, did you?
Speaker 2: I called my uncle, my uncle Tracy. He came over there,
Speaker 2: and uh, we drove around Twin Lakes, the neighborhood. We
Speaker 2: drove around neighborhood for like thirty minutes, Oh Joe. Then
Speaker 2: I got on the freeway, shot out to Fedville two
Speaker 2: and a half hour. What didn't know nothing by no
Speaker 2: stick shell?
Speaker 3: Boy?
Speaker 4: Hey?
Speaker 2: Because see when you get on the highway that you cool.
Speaker 2: It's when you're getting in the traffic, trafficway.
Speaker 3: City traffic. When you got a doll just got you
Speaker 3: got a dillaship. It took me by the hole.
Speaker 2: It took me about a good two weeks before I
Speaker 2: can figure out how to get around up.
Speaker 3: And then you gotta understand where the clutch of the
Speaker 3: break is.
Speaker 2: Heyok, once you get the hang of it, it's yeah,
Speaker 2: it's nothing once you get the hang of it.
Speaker 3: But boy, to start off, it's tough.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing. You're like that thing cut out
Speaker 3: on your traffic too. They blow, Hey Joe, they're blowing
Speaker 3: all right, all right? Damn Yeah, yeah, I had a
Speaker 3: whole lot of that.
Speaker 2: Hey see, I grew up on a farm, so, you know,
Speaker 2: driving the tractor, but the girls are floor so you
Speaker 2: you ain't nobody behind your damn feel so you go
Speaker 2: to that road A So I kind of knew my
Speaker 2: brother had that M three. I never get M nineteen
Speaker 2: eighty eight. He got an M three was eighty eight,
Speaker 2: eighty eighty seven. It was eighty seven. Because we were
Speaker 2: still at the old house. Man he dropped it off, said, man,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna let you. I let you drive it for
Speaker 2: a little while. You let me know when you want
Speaker 2: me to come back and get it. I ain't even Joe.
Speaker 2: I ain't even te him I didn't know how to drive,
Speaker 2: or hey, I learned how to drive over to F
Speaker 2: three Man, I got out there. Hey my sister say
Speaker 2: teaching me, I said, I'm trying to learn myself.
Speaker 4: Bad.
Speaker 3: He after about probably like you said, a couple of hours. Yeah, God,
Speaker 3: I was, Hey, that was me. Boy.
Speaker 2: Listen, do you learn how to shift them gears? It's
Speaker 2: around it around the NASCAR the way he be coming.
Speaker 3: Through that thing. Oh man.
Speaker 2: And then I was in college he dropped the porches
Speaker 2: office like, hey man, you know, hey, floss around jo
Speaker 2: I gotta tell me that you right here know I'm
Speaker 2: dropping convertible of porches nine thirty nine eleven slant note.
Speaker 3: Couldn't up. Huh huh.
Speaker 2: The volume