1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: Volume. 2 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 2: mL Football release their top ten receivers in the two 3 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 2: thousands Number one, Randy Moss number two, t O number three, 4 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison number four, Big Game, Tory hol number five. 5 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 3: The Greatest Entertainment of all time. 6 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 2: Chad o Jo Siko Johnson number six, Hydes Ward number seven, 7 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 2: Steve Smith Senior number eight, Reggie Wayne number nine, Reverendnight, 8 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 2: Isaac Bruce number. 9 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 3: Ten, and Kwan Boulder God, hold on why yet? The 10 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 3: hold on? Who who who wo? 11 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: Wo? Whoa whoa wo? 12 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 3: What life is gerald? Yep? Listen that Cholvin John Longe 13 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 3: hold on? 14 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: They And there was an argument of by this earlier, 15 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: earlier all day on Twitter, obviously on my timeline, because 16 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: I said, the hell if that take me out and 17 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: put Andre Johnson now they also, I love, I love 18 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: Aan Kuanna what he did for the game, but as 19 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: something Captain Johnson has to be on there somewhere as well. 20 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 3: What about laughing you just got the third both catch Larry. 21 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: For Jerald has to be there as well. But then 22 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: people said it's the two thousands. So the two thousands, 23 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 1: I think Mega Tron only got maybe three years because 24 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: I think he came in and I forgot what year 25 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 1: he got drafted. I think he came in he only 26 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: had three years of. 27 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 3: How many years? How many years are one? Who years? 28 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 2: Was a laughish yer behind an Kwan because I think 29 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:49,919 Speaker 2: I think I think Fitts was like one year behind 30 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: an Kwan. 31 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: It's it's, it's it's a mother ship. Derek Mason, Derek, 32 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: Derek Mason should be on there too. 33 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 3: Now. 34 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: I don't think people understand d make puting. 35 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 3: Some work man? What that man, Julio Jones. 36 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: You're talking about two thousands though Jo. 37 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,399 Speaker 2: And Kwan was two thousand and three. Then what you saying? 38 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 2: Julio one in two thousand? I think no, Jolio came 39 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 2: into twenty twenty him and A J. 40 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 3: Green. Yeah ah ah mm hmm yeah, I like it. 41 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: I like it. I should have I should have been 42 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: higher though, I should have. 43 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 3: Who okay, who you? Who you? 44 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 2: Who are you replacing you? Replacing mass t o uh 45 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 2: Marvin or Tory. 46 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: Holt like just off entertainment alone. I'm number one. 47 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 3: Who you were taking out? 48 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put I just. 49 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 3: Told you so, you're gonna put you in. 50 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: You know when when we talk about numerical order, right, 51 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: doesn't everything start with zero? 52 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 3: No, it starts with one. Okay, but before one is zero? 53 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 3: Who zero? Is that the z? Roy? You ain't zero? 54 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 3: You don't want to be zero? 55 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:17,119 Speaker 1: So it's me then then t O, then Moss, then 56 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: whatever or do you want to do? 57 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 3: Mm hmm you know zero is the negative? Nothing? 58 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 2: Right? 59 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 3: Listen? 60 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: I was, I was have a quick comeback, but I 61 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 1: missed it. 62 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you, I think you want to be 63 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 2: so if we ate, so we gotta take, We're gonna take. 64 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: Hell, no, boy, were you taking off wood? That's right? 65 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 3: Hey, listen. 66 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: I specifically said entertainment and fun value only. I'm I'm 67 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: mad at the top. 68 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 3: That's it. But that that was a good list. I 69 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 3: very fortunate enough that I was. 70 00:03:58,040 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 2: Uh. 71 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 3: I saw all these guys. 72 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 2: That's all these guys, Randy, t O, Marvin played against Randy. 73 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 2: I never played against t O, played against Marvin, played 74 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 2: against Holt played against O. 75 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 3: Joe. 76 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, Kelly. 77 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 2: What's hands on it? What's hands on? What did the 78 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 2: time you get hands was on that team in ninety eight, Hey, 79 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 2: I know he's that team in two thousand. Tell Joe 80 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 2: what I did, y'all? We played, y'all. 81 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 3: That's why I was the name. Nothing lost so long? 82 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 3: Who had the big game? 83 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: But I did what I did, y'all when we played, y'all, 84 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: I wasn't there was in Baltimore. 85 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, we y'all. What I did to you? I think 86 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 3: I think you might have had like three? But how 87 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 3: many TVs? 88 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 2: How many catches? Oh you're having two thousand and one 89 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 2: against because we beat the Heller? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Hey, 90 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 2: pull them numbers up, Ash, It wasn't no, honey, that's 91 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 2: for sure. 92 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 3: Got what out of my rookie year? That's okay. You 93 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 3: woul learned that target like you had too. Yeah, I mean. 94 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 1: I bet how much I had? Ask how much I had? 95 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 3: What do you have? Ask? Fifty five sixty yards? I 96 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 3: had about by two thirty? No, he didn't playing the 97 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 3: Baltimore game, I did. Yeah. I think you might have 98 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 3: called a touchdown against us in two thousand. I sure did. 99 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 3: That's what I would do. I catch it. That was 100 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 3: at Denver then, But we beat hell out, y'all. Are 101 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 3: you were gone? 102 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 2: Oh Joe, you asked seven targets, three catches for twenty 103 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 2: eight yards against us? 104 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 3: It was what I have? What I have? As Hey? 105 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: That boy was skating out there. 106 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 2: What against Baltimore. Oh, oh, Joe, you do realize, Oh Joe, 107 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 2: you didn't even you did. Y'all didn't even score. 108 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 3: I ain't score. It was zero. Y'all had zero. Again, 109 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 3: since you like zeros, y'all had that. Hold on what year? 110 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 2: This was two thousand and one? Yep, seven targets, three catches, 111 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 2: twenty eight yards. 112 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 3: What I have I do? I have me a tub, sweet. 113 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: Tub to the other five catches, I ain't catch them. 114 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 2: Well, first of all, you had that was four targets. 115 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 2: I mean because I said you had seven targets, you 116 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 2: had three catches, so it wasn't five. 117 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 3: You in math didn't do too good. That was four. 118 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 3: You didn't catch. No, No, I ain't dropped no ball. 119 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: Now that's one thing I ain't do. 120 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 3: I ain't dropped the money. I ain't dropped the money. 121 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: My head on my hands was like glue. 122 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 2: You hit me at a tub? Oh I scored in 123 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 2: two thousand and one? Oh that was two thousand or 124 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 2: I had three targets, three catches thirty two yards. 125 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 3: So you see the difference. Three targets, three catches. 126 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: Well you play hold on, hold on, you gotta understand 127 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: what defense I was going against This was the Baltimore Ravens. Man, 128 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: I ain't really I ain't really get y'all skipped. 129 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 3: No, no, you didn't. You didn't get the two thousand 130 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 3: based Ravens defense. You got the old what same thing? 131 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: Y'all wasn't missing too many pieces, man, y'all wasn't missing 132 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: too any. 133 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 3: Oh what did he do? 134 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 2: What he do the second time? Because that was the 135 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 2: home game? I think there, what do you doing? Because 136 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 2: I think he had a touchdown. He probably had a 137 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 2: touchdown the second time. 138 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: Every time I play all of the score. Now, that's 139 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do. No, you didn't you had the 140 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: twenty eight Measley yards. You ain't even have it the 141 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: first down. That's my rookie year. They were just introducing 142 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:36,679 Speaker 1: me to y'all. You know when you first meet somebody, Joe, y'all. 143 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: They didn't want to get they didn't. 144 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 3: Want to put me out. Oh Joe. The first time 145 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 3: y'all played, you had one target, no catchers. 146 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: Man, that's it. Oh you know what, because see that's 147 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: my rookie year. So they ain't really introduce me to y'all. 148 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: Oh that was the second time that was having that game? 149 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 3: What happened. What I did? What I did? 150 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, eight, I had twelve targets, eight catches. You 151 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 2: had one target, no catches. You out there, he was 152 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 2: out there bull hiving. 153 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: Hey wa yeah, what year was that? 154 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 3: Two thousand and one? The year you asked my lookie here, 155 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 3: what that got? What I did after that? Though? What 156 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 3: I did after that, I don't know. I wasn't there. 157 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 3: I was in Denver. 158 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 2: Now you want to say what we did in different 159 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 2: we played all in two thousand two. Well, yeah, I know, 160 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:28,679 Speaker 2: I know, I know you lost. 161 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 3: I didn't know. I know that. I don't know what 162 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 3: the numbers, but. 163 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: Women numbers looked like, asked what I did in Denver? Yeah, 164 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: I think you got a touchdown, but I do I 165 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:40,959 Speaker 1: cast touchdowns. 166 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 3: But we beat y'all. 167 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: Okay, we talked about from an individual standpoint, I can't 168 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: control I can't control the team. 169 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 3: No regular season we played in two thousand and three. Yeah, yeah, 170 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 3: what I did then? 171 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 1: What I did then, because hey, by the time two 172 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 1: thousand and three came, Joe, like I had fully arrived. 173 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 3: Like I was, like, I knocked, Okay, what would it? 174 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 3: What do you do? Because that was car I think 175 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 3: that that was Carson, your Carson we have. Hey, Hey, 176 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 3: what year did you change your name though? To you? 177 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: I think maybe two thousand and seven. I just wonder 178 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: if you'd have played the Baltimore Ravens in two thousand. 179 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: We made him change it back. Hey, Joe, listen, I 180 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: changed my name simply for marketing and branding purposes only. 181 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 3: That's all. 182 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 2: Oh two thousand, Oh Joe, you had ten targets, six catches, 183 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 2: ninety five yards of a touchdown. 184 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 3: That was me? That was all right? What was what 185 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:40,839 Speaker 3: was this? What happened was the goo ash? Thirty to ten? 186 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 3: Was the score or bus stop? 187 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:51,599 Speaker 1: So I was the only one that scored, Yes, And 188 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: it was late in the game when you scored. It 189 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: don't matter how long as I got in there. Sometimes 190 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: you listen. Sometimes sometimes you gotta. When you go on 191 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: a date, sometimes you know, you know, you get the 192 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: first base, sometime you get the second. 193 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 2: That's all right, Hey, Joe, I don't want to tell nobody, 194 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 2: but we had to call the dolls off. 195 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 3: He scored with a minute left in the ball throw. Yeah, 196 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 3: ain't had no choice but the throw. I don't know 197 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 3: what you had. You had a choice. You had four 198 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 3: quarters and you had time to do something before the 199 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 3: we beat the brakes onthing. Oh Joe, you still celebrated 200 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 3: on them? 201 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, no, no, Listen. One thing I always did, Joe, 202 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: is I never celebrated, never did a celebration if we 203 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: were losing. Only if we were to tie the game 204 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: or we scored first, or was it to go up. 205 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I ain't played like that. Well, you ain't 206 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 3: do no celebrating against on the teams. I would loose that. 207 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 3: Oh cho, man, you're lucky. 208 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: Listen, you lucky. We didn't cross path like at the 209 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: same time like you would use on the back end, 210 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: And I was coming in. If I play during your 211 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: row like during man, I would have sought your ass up. 212 00:10:56,240 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 2: But boy, oh Joe, I was like I would. I'm 213 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,239 Speaker 2: good for having tubs against Cincinnati. 214 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 3: Kell. 215 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 1: You have to understand. You have to understand. 216 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 2: We played what two thousand, dropped two and what we 217 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 2: do in two thousands before you got there, Ojo. Then 218 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 2: before you got there, we beat the break. 219 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: You have to understand how bad Cincinnati was back then. 220 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: Not understanding that, Joe, that that's not fair. 221 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 2: So we your defense still suspect. I mean, y'all got 222 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 2: some great offense players with Joe and Chase and Higgins. 223 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 2: But that defense dang had damn Oh my bad o jo. 224 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 2: We beat y'all thirty seven zero in two thousand. 225 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 3: I've caught twicet twice. I already know that I don't 226 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 3: like that. 227 00:11:53,920 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, Our Moss Darryl Williams, Hey. 228 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 3: Will it boy, not me? 229 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 2: He talked me in the end z on he had 230 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:13,839 Speaker 2: the spelled the ownerant though I think it spelled the 231 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 2: owneran joke. They're gonna spell the ownerate cause the reference 232 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 2: gonna do that. I had about four catching. I had 233 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 2: about four catches about fifty yard two tubs man. Not 234 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 2: in Cincinnati in two thousand. No you talking about I'm 235 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 2: just the first game, first game, hit like a two yarder. Yeah, 236 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 2: the game in Cincinnati, the thirty seven nothing, that's when 237 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 2: it noted the Keilly Smith. That's when Robertnette hit a 238 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 2: Kelley Smith that knocked him out of the game. Y'all 239 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 2: about have had like forty yards that game. 240 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 3: The hell you say? I called two touchdowns that game 241 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 3: in two thousand, I did play. Yeah it is it 242 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 3: is in two thousand. Yeah, let me let me go. Lord, 243 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 3: have no see what I said as. 244 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 2: Try to short change me my numbers, Joe, I ain't play. 245 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 2: That's what I think I'm gonna know. Uh Ravens m hm, 246 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 2: Okay what it is? Get them right, man, Let them know. Yeah, 247 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 2: ad tried to short change me. We beat them twenty 248 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 2: seven seven. 249 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 4: No no, no, no, no, no, okay Shannon sharp seven 250 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 4: for sixty sixty six and two touchdowns. 251 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 3: Ayess who the Ravens. I ain't play, y'all. 252 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 2: In two thousand, that was that's when as a matter 253 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 2: of fact, that's when Corey Dillon ran broke the record 254 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:12,079 Speaker 2: against the Broncos. He ran for two seventy five to 255 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 2: seventy six. Because the record with Walter Payton to seventy five. 256 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 2: Who broke OJ's record like two seventy three? But don't 257 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 2: worry about it, don't Joe? 258 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 3: Hey? 259 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 2: What? 260 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 3: Hey? I was that boy? 261 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: And Joe you missed it. 262 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 2: Saint Kwon Barclay's iconic reverse hurdle is the cover of 263 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 2: the Madden NFL. That's why I mean, this is the 264 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 2: second hold on. This is the second straight year a 265 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 2: running back had been on the cover. Christian McCaffrey being 266 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 2: the athlete on Madden NFL twenty five that sparked the 267 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 2: debate of the infamous Madden Curse once more. Uh. This 268 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 2: is the first time a member of the Jacksonville Jag 269 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 2: has been on the cover of a Madden I'll bet 270 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 2: as a person being hurdled. 271 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 3: Damn. Hey, the person getting hurdled. 272 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: Hey, he got to be upset about that. 273 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 3: Boy, he got to be upset about. 274 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he he'll mortealized. He made That's like that 275 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 2: Jordan push off o Joe. 276 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 3: Russell, you wanted to push off. He just he just 277 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 3: guided him a little bit out of the way. Well 278 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 3: he only yeah, that that's what he guided him. That's 279 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 3: album it is, it is. 280 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: I just left. We were at Geno Steakhouse to night, 281 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: uh and they turned it into kun uh Chi stak 282 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: It was really really, really really dope. 283 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 2: Uh. 284 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: Event I was able to congratulate Sae Quon on being 285 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: the cover athlete and we talked about the Madden Curse. 286 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 3: Josh Allen was going to cover. 287 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: Didn't get hurt when not not too long ago, John 288 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. 289 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 3: E didn't get hurt. 290 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: Pastor Mahome was on the cover previously, he didn't get hurt. 291 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: So I think sa Quan is safe. Uh, there have 292 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: been players that have that have had small injuries, nothing. 293 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 3: To where he missed a lot of time. 294 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: So I think we got to do it with the 295 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: whole Madden curse thing, and sa Quan is the one 296 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: that take care of his body, doesn't really. 297 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 3: Get hurt much. 298 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: He has in the past, but recently he hasn't been hurt. 299 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be all right, And I honestly 300 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: think there's a good chance that they might repeat. But 301 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: being at the commanders have gotten better, being that Dallas 302 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: has gotten better, you know, obviously adding George Piggins. I'm 303 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: from an offensive standpoint, I'm not sure how they would 304 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: look defensively. I'm excited. I'm excited to see what that 305 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: NFC NFC West looked like. 306 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 2: Man, oh, Joe, y'all was good. God, y'all was terrible. 307 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 2: Oh joy, y'all had one hundred and seventy four total 308 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 2: yards that came. 309 00:16:58,680 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: You? 310 00:16:59,640 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 2: Was that. 311 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 3: Two thousand? 312 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: That's what they want to throw me at the ball? 313 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 3: You wasn't even there? 314 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I wasn't there yet. 315 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 3: You better be glad you were. If I was, the 316 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 3: Dowcome would have been different. I can tell you that. Yeah, 317 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 3: used to be raising hell when that ball don't come 318 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 3: your way. 319 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: I think I might have maybe two instances like that. 320 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 3: One. 321 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 1: It was a playoff game. We were playing the Steelers. 322 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: When Carson went down. I was very frustrated. So you 323 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: have to get your production from somewhere when a quarterback 324 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 1: of that magnitude playbook. The playbook changes significantly when the 325 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: second quarterback comes in. So at that point, now I'm 326 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: feeling put me in positions to make up for not 327 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: having him in, and we weren't able to do that 328 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: because we were playing the Steelers, and the Steelers that year, 329 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 1: that five year, that defense, that defense. 330 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 3: Joe, Oh my god. 331 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 1: So I just wanted to be I wanted him to 332 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 1: stop allowing them to dictate what we want to do. 333 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: Let's dictate, y'all will go do nothing. So outside of that, 334 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 1: I was really frustrated, Joe. Uh that that was one time, 335 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: and it was another time, Oh, the same game, Joe, 336 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: I got I got mad in the same game. Well, well, 337 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 1: that that was the one you was outing to fooling 338 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 1: and a lot of that's what I just told Joe. Yeah, hey, Joe, boy, 339 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: See now I could have said something see. I knew 340 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 1: about this, but I ain't put it out there, Joe. 341 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: So at that time I was on CBS and the 342 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 1: word that came back to me, we got got. I said, no, 343 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not one of those. 344 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 3: I don't have the problem. You know, you know, like 345 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 3: the ball not coming. 346 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: I I'll be chilling, Joe, just that game, the magnitude 347 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 1: of the game, and you allowing them to dictate to 348 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: us what we want to do. 349 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 3: You thought y'all would going to the Super Bowls office. 350 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 1: I promise you, Hey, Joe, all I needed was the ball. 351 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:53,360 Speaker 2: Joe. 352 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 1: Just put him in the hand, Joe, and listen, I 353 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: wasn't I wasn't one of those guys A catching a 354 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty and hundred three passes the season. Ninety 355 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 1: You give me three or football is a game. I'm 356 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: good because two of them. Oh, I'm finna get Jiggy 357 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: a bunch of catches that. 358 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 3: Shit, Ocho. 359 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 2: Since we stayed on the Bengals, your quarterback Joe Burrow, 360 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 2: who has four nine hundred and eighteen passing yards led 361 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 2: the league forty three touchdowns led the league, said the 362 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 2: Bengals would have made the playoff last year if he 363 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 2: had played better. If I played even better, we wouldn't 364 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 2: have been in the spot where we were well that 365 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 2: we were in. I just got to focus on getting 366 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 2: better myself, and I feel like everyone in the locker 367 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 2: room feel the same way. If I go out there 368 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 2: and play better than I did last year, then it 369 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 2: doesn't matter what goes on anywhere. Like that. 370 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 3: I'm glad he took that's quarterback. Joe played quarterback. 371 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 2: It was just he had some constantly turnovers at the 372 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 2: most inopportunity times. And you know when you playing catch 373 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 2: up Ocho, or you got the lead. Because that Baltimore game, 374 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,719 Speaker 2: the first time that y'all played there, Ojo, y'all had 375 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 2: a lead, and he had some costly he had a 376 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 2: costly he had a couple of costly turnal. 377 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 3: I like, I love Joe. I like, you know what, 378 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 3: as the leader, that's what you're supposed to got to 379 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 3: say that. 380 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: You got to say, and not very many will do that. 381 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 3: Not very many will do that. You know what. I 382 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 3: don't like that, Joe said. I don't like that. He 383 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 3: said he's tired of. 384 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: Playing at the Ravens home field in primetime games. M hmm, 385 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: because I I for me as a competitor. I love 386 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: playing away Ravens Steelers. Brown's matter of fact, Hell, I 387 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: like playing away just in general, especially prime time. You mean, 388 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: I get to be in a chaotic environment and the 389 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: whole world is watching. 390 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 3: I like that. But for some reason, so I just 391 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 3: I don't. I don't like that. 392 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: He said that because it makes me feel as if 393 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: he has an issue playing the Ravens in general. 394 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 2: I mean, hey, let let us get with him a 395 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 2: little bit, one of the more prime time I mean, say, 396 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 2: you don't mind having the Bengals in prime time, let 397 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 2: them come to us in prime. 398 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: I wouldn't care. I like, I like, I like being 399 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: prime time and playing in Baltimore. So I'm finna send 400 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm finna send you home with a loss. 401 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: And everybody got to sing. I mean, I'm looking at it. 402 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: I look at it differently. 403 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 2: Colorado coach Coach Prime said he was hurt by reports 404 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 2: that said his son should do it. Was unprepared during 405 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 2: the pre draft meetings with NFL teams, But he also 406 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 2: isn't buying the valiity of them either. It did hurt, 407 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 2: but the Bible says God uses the foolish thing to 408 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 2: confound the wives. There are some foolish stuff that went on, 409 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 2: but that gave them something that they needed, like that 410 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 2: edge that Tom Brady had. It gave them that edge 411 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 2: that you had. It gave them the edge that you have. 412 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 2: Folks said we weren't gonna be nothing, but we had 413 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 2: to prove prove them have You had to prove that. 414 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 2: It gave him that edge that needed both of them. 415 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 2: When you sit up there and say something like he 416 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 2: went into the meetings unprepared, like dude shaud Door Sanders, 417 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 2: who has had six different officive coordinators, who has the 418 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 2: fult still function at a level every time we brought 419 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 2: somebody innew And you're gonna tell me he was unprepared. 420 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 3: You're gonna tell me he had on headphones. 421 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 2: Anybody that knows my son to understand he's professional, He's 422 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 2: going to go into the meeting with the headphones on. 423 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 3: Y'all come on now. And so I knew bull drive. 424 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: I knew they were shucking the drive and when they 425 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: said it when the report came out, Because when you're 426 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: going to a meeting like that with execs, with the 427 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: higher level, higher level folks at an organization, you're going 428 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 1: there a certain way. You ain't gonna have. 429 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 3: You your phones on. You're gonna be prepared. 430 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: You know, your coach and your father has already prepared 431 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: you for that moment anyway, So what are we talking about? 432 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 3: You know what I bet they did. 433 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 2: Oh Joe, he probably had the headphones right and anything like, 434 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,400 Speaker 2: he had them on. I bet you that's what he needed. 435 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 1: But you know, they gonna change it up when it 436 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 1: come out. You know, the story gonna come out, pretend like. 437 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 3: You just said. You know what, guys on our draft board, 438 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 3: we didn't have him rated that high. We moved on. 439 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 2: But they try to diminish the man, to try to 440 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 2: come up with every use like he's upper professional like 441 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 2: or he had you know, his brag adocious what man 442 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 2: look cares y'all know, they probably could teach him a 443 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 2: little a lot harder than they did. 444 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 3: Of course they did. Yeah, absolutely, of course, of course. 445 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 2: And from all I know is somebody through through those 446 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,360 Speaker 2: four thousand yards. All I knew is somebody had those 447 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 2: thirty four, thirty five thirty what would have many touchdowns 448 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 2: he threw four? Somebody did that. If somebody inherited a 449 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 2: one and eleven or one in ten team, and within 450 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 2: two years they had won nine games and they were 451 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 2: in a bowl game. All I know he was the quarterback. 452 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 2: I know Jackson State was better with him than they 453 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 2: were before he got there. Spee, you was better with 454 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,479 Speaker 2: him than they were before he got there. Now, if 455 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 2: he doesn't fit your program, oh Joe, if somebody doesn't 456 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 2: fit your program but doesn't fit you, it's okay. You 457 00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 2: don't have to say anything negative about said person relationship 458 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 2: for anything. If that not for you, okay, yeah, but 459 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 2: you ain't got to try to You ain't got to 460 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,239 Speaker 2: try to dog them out to try to prop yourself up. 461 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 3: You ain't have to do that to that man. 462 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: Honestly, when it comes to the quarterback position, especially that 463 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 1: team specifically, when it comes to picking quarterbacks, I mean, 464 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: they've been missing for a very. 465 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 2: Long time anyway, they ain't pick Nobody said Sea Life, 466 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 2: so whoever said that, and the Browns y'all ain't did 467 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 2: much better. Let's be real, y'all hadn't y'all really hadn't 468 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 2: had a quarterback test, averdy. Since codes are in the 469 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 2: supplemental draft in eighty four. Hey, look, I think this 470 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 2: is gonna be good for him, though, Like I said, 471 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 2: just the little stuff that I've seen Uncle Ojo. It 472 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 2: seemed like, uh, you know, he got his head down 473 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 2: and he's working. 474 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 3: Man, he got it. That's all you can do. I 475 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 3: know that's it. 476 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 2: And I think that's a good thing for him. I know, 477 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure he hears the whispers, but he keep it. 478 00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 2: He keep his head down and keep working. 479 00:24:59,200 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 3: Man. 480 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 2: Good things going happened for him because the talent is 481 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 2: the talent is there. It's oozing out of them. So man, 482 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 2: just keep going. Bro. 483 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 3: Anybody that's gone through adversity understands this. Oh yo. 484 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 2: I was seventh round draft pick. They said I was 485 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 2: gonna go somewhere between round one and three. And I 486 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 2: looked at all them guys that went before me and. 487 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 3: A lot of guys that I had played with. In 488 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 3: the bowl game, I went. I went to the East 489 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 3: West Shrine Game. 490 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 2: I was one of the few Division of two guys 491 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 2: that went to the that went to a bowl that 492 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:28,679 Speaker 2: I went to the Blue Gray Game. Back then, they 493 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 2: used to have a Blue Gray Game OCHO that played 494 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 2: on Christmas Day. I was the only Division two guy 495 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 2: and if I'm not mistaken, black college guy and that 496 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 2: one it was in Montgomery, Alabama cold. Then I go 497 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 2: to the East West Shrine game. I really wanted to 498 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 2: play the East West Shrine game because my brother played 499 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 2: in that game, and not a whole lot of brothers 500 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 2: combination played in bowl game and so and to see them, guys, 501 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,479 Speaker 2: I'm like, man, you went to this place, you went 502 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 2: to that place, Bro, you'd have been the second, the second, 503 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 2: the third receiver. Savanna I've been Oh no, I'm being 504 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 2: real and I'm I'm just remember thinking, like I remember 505 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 2: calling my brother says, spank, I'm better than all these 506 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 2: dudes here. I said, I'm better than all of them. 507 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 2: I said, hell a bright there when we played tight end, 508 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:15,919 Speaker 2: I can play tight end, and I'm better than all 509 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 2: the do right here, draft come along, I go see him. 510 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 2: You know you go combine, no shoe, you know you 511 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 2: run the line, and you know you catching and all 512 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 2: that stuff. Hey, we ain't got no technique, coacho. I'm 513 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 2: just out there just rock down, knowing if somebody give 514 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 2: me an op, like somebody like, okay, teach me how 515 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 2: to run rode okay, this foot up, this foot back, okay, 516 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 2: you know ten, roll to twelve drop you know, Okay, 517 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 2: sus spank man, all them dudes I saw, go back 518 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 2: and look at the wide receivers in my draft, look 519 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 2: at the tight ends in my draft. Oh and every 520 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 2: time I played against him? What oh yeah, oh yeah, 521 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 2: for sure, for sure they. 522 00:26:58,760 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 3: Needed to know. 523 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 2: All y'all got a little extra dollars, But y'all ain't 524 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 2: gonna make money as long as me. Y'all about to 525 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 2: be up out of here. So hopefully your dore, Like 526 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 2: I said, there's a mess pressure because of his last 527 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 2: name is Dad. 528 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:14,679 Speaker 3: I had. 529 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 2: Look, I came in two years after my brother. My 530 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 2: brother was the first team off when I got drafted. 531 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:20,479 Speaker 2: My brother was first team off pro that year. 532 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:21,959 Speaker 3: M hm. 533 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 2: He led the league in catchers and yards. No catching 534 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 2: and touchdowns, no yard. You know, he led the league 535 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 2: in catchers and yards. So man, man, that's man. Why 536 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 2: he why he go to Savannah State? 537 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 3: Man? Why he ain't no high draft pick? 538 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 2: Don't worry about that. You about to see Henna. So 539 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 2: but I I just don't, don't, don't y'all ain't got 540 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 2: to lie on the man. If y'all don't. If you 541 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 2: don't want something on yoe, let's just say, okay, you 542 00:27:56,280 --> 00:28:00,360 Speaker 2: go to a restaurant. Okay, you ain't got to if 543 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 2: you didn't like, if you don't like what they have, 544 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 2: you ain't got to say the restaurant bad without trying it. 545 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,120 Speaker 3: Just say what They didn't have anything on the menu 546 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 3: that I liked? Cool? Man, Man, it was dirty service 547 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 3: was this? And man, the. 548 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,360 Speaker 2: Waitress, you know, she gave me your attitude. I asked 549 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 2: for some water. This is she kissing her teeth. Come on, 550 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 2: you ain't gonna do all that. Man, they really have 551 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 2: anything on the menu that I like. So but hey, okay, cool, 552 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 2: move it along. But to try to do this to 553 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 2: the man, come on. 554 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: Now, you know one thing, this was a blessing in disguise. 555 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,239 Speaker 2: And Joe, you and I both said, it ain't how 556 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 2: high you go, it's work and what you do when 557 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 2: you get there, that's it. But look he look, his 558 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 2: dad is preparing him for this. He's guess what he's 559 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 2: been deon sand the son As long as that it 560 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 2: hadn't been, he hadn't been anything. 561 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 3: But so the criticist him, it's always been. 562 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: Always, which is why he gonna be all right. He 563 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 1: been dealing with adversity and the obstacles for a long time, 564 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: very long time. 565 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 3: So this is nothing new. I just I just hate, 566 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 3: I just hate, oh Joe, when when people do stuff 567 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 3: like that, Joe, you know what I'm saying. 568 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 2: Quiet, Like I said, if if you if you don't 569 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 2: think he fits your culture, cool, I got no problem 570 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 2: with that. 571 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 3: I ain't saying draft anybody that. 572 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 2: You don't think can be beneficial. But you don't have 573 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 2: to come up with these excuses. Just say, hey, we 574 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 2: didn't have him, we didn't have him rated that high. 575 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 2: We thought he was a Day two selection. 576 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 3: Cool. Ain't no problem with that. On yo, got no 577 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 3: problem whatsoever. 578 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 2: But it's the oh, the arrogance and you know, the 579 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 2: brashness and the jewelry. Guys have nil deals, guys making 580 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 2: three four five million dollars. Now, ain't nobody broke like 581 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 2: we was when we came out of school. 582 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 3: It's a lot different. Yeah. 583 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're gonna they're gonna criticize and scrutinize to 584 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 2: the to the highest man. Yeah, I mean, what what 585 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 2: do you what are you making four five million dollars 586 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 2: in n i OL money there? So yeah, you're gonna 587 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 2: he gonna have a color of that, he gonna have 588 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 2: a lambo or whatever else. He had out there. Hell, 589 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 2: I went to school, Like I said, ye had a 590 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 2: pickup truck. You had a pickup truck, pickup accustomed deluxe. Hey, 591 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 2: I had an actor intager, a little hashbag. 592 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 593 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 2: See hey, they can't get on the road and had 594 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 2: no problem. I got in there freeway. It was a 595 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 2: stick shift. 596 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 3: Hey, hey, you like you like you like man? You 597 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 3: man listen. 598 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 2: So uh going to my sophomore year, my auntie was like, 599 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 2: you can come get my car because she worked at 600 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 2: a car running place, so she drove a different car 601 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 2: every day. So like cool, I get over there to 602 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 2: get the cars a stick shift. I'm like, man, I 603 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 2: can't drive no stick You learned quick, though, did you? 604 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 2: I called my uncle, my uncle Tracy. He came over there, 605 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 2: and uh, we drove around Twin Lakes, the neighborhood. We 606 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 2: drove around neighborhood for like thirty minutes, Oh Joe. Then 607 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 2: I got on the freeway, shot out to Fedville two 608 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 2: and a half hour. What didn't know nothing by no 609 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 2: stick shell? 610 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 3: Boy? 611 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 4: Hey? 612 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 2: Because see when you get on the highway that you cool. 613 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 2: It's when you're getting in the traffic, trafficway. 614 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 3: City traffic. When you got a doll just got you 615 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 3: got a dillaship. It took me by the hole. 616 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 2: It took me about a good two weeks before I 617 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 2: can figure out how to get around up. 618 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 3: And then you gotta understand where the clutch of the 619 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 3: break is. 620 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 2: Heyok, once you get the hang of it, it's yeah, 621 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 2: it's nothing once you get the hang of it. 622 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 3: But boy, to start off, it's tough. 623 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 624 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing. You're like that thing cut out 625 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 3: on your traffic too. They blow, Hey Joe, they're blowing 626 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 3: all right, all right? Damn Yeah, yeah, I had a 627 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 3: whole lot of that. 628 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 2: Hey see, I grew up on a farm, so, you know, 629 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 2: driving the tractor, but the girls are floor so you 630 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 2: you ain't nobody behind your damn feel so you go 631 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 2: to that road A So I kind of knew my 632 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 2: brother had that M three. I never get M nineteen 633 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 2: eighty eight. He got an M three was eighty eight, 634 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 2: eighty eighty seven. It was eighty seven. Because we were 635 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 2: still at the old house. Man he dropped it off, said, man, 636 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 2: I'm gonna let you. I let you drive it for 637 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 2: a little while. You let me know when you want 638 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 2: me to come back and get it. I ain't even Joe. 639 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 2: I ain't even te him I didn't know how to drive, 640 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 2: or hey, I learned how to drive over to F 641 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 2: three Man, I got out there. Hey my sister say 642 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 2: teaching me, I said, I'm trying to learn myself. 643 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 4: Bad. 644 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 3: He after about probably like you said, a couple of hours. Yeah, God, 645 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 3: I was, Hey, that was me. Boy. 646 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 2: Listen, do you learn how to shift them gears? It's 647 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 2: around it around the NASCAR the way he be coming. 648 00:32:58,800 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 3: Through that thing. Oh man. 649 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 2: And then I was in college he dropped the porches 650 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 2: office like, hey man, you know, hey, floss around jo 651 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 2: I gotta tell me that you right here know I'm 652 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 2: dropping convertible of porches nine thirty nine eleven slant note. 653 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 3: Couldn't up. Huh huh. 654 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 2: The volume