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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. And now your hosts Isaiah stand Back, heck,

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Speaker 1: My Harrison, Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeoman's Well, well, beat

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Speaker 1: me up. It is Tuesday, March first, thank you for

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Speaker 1: joining us on a TCT Talking Cowboys Tuesday. And I'm

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Speaker 1: And Uh, the guy that always remind the reminds us

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Speaker 1: stand back, Champ, what's up? Good? That's great alliteration. I

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Speaker 1: covered up, you know, I don't know, sure, soups, tell

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Speaker 1: other day, a bright yellow sock soccer jersey. And I

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Speaker 1: was like, come on, dog, give us a chance. I

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Speaker 1: Yeah on, man, give us a shot here. But guys,

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Speaker 1: I am so uh thankful to being able to host

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Speaker 1: Big Mike's just breaking news on us right now, you know,

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Speaker 1: fire Sun gosh man, it's uh. The offseason is in

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Speaker 1: obviously the Cowboys are not going to be without controversy,

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Speaker 1: which we have had. But on Monday, Stephen Jones had

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Speaker 1: He said some very interesting things about the future of

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Speaker 1: sound as though Steven Jones was in that vein. He

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Speaker 1: What were your takes on the interview? You're exactly right.

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Speaker 1: And I've been writing this in the last couple of

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Speaker 1: talking about Zeke a little But those that are guys, right,

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Speaker 1: zero sense to me. Change the system. Change the system.

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Speaker 1: don't disrespect Pete, but envisioned Mike Mica on a bus

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Speaker 1: All right, this is a tricked out bus. It has

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Speaker 1: that says Oxnard on it. All right. I want to

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Speaker 1: ask you guys, California West site. All right, and so

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Speaker 1: we have players, and I'm gonna take players that were

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Speaker 1: maybe free agents that we need to sign, guys that

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Speaker 1: are on the contract I have. I have four guys

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Speaker 1: from that defense that can get on that bus. I

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Speaker 1: want you to take four guys that are on the

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Speaker 1: current roster and maybe even give me a wildcard. Who

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Speaker 1: are those four guys that are getting on that bus?

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Speaker 1: I say, I'll start with you Diggs, Slid, Gregory sold

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Speaker 1: It gets Murky Rays curse, and then I'm probably to

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Speaker 1: round it out proud, go at Gallimar. I like it. Neville,

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Speaker 1: all right, those are your four guys. And if you

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Speaker 1: had a wild card, just a wild card, who's your

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Speaker 1: wild card guy? A fifth who would be your wild

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Speaker 1: card salary? Doesn't matter? Just who, just who? I want, Yes,

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Speaker 1: come off the bus with me in Oxnard. Ye, all right,

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Speaker 1: then law d law that's your wild card. Yeah. Okay,

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Speaker 1: now here's the here's here's another question, so we can

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Speaker 1: we could talk about this. You started off with Diggs, right,

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Speaker 1: so that's an easy one, but of course you're gonna

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Speaker 1: go with Diggs. Your second one was I believe it

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Speaker 1: was Curse Gregory. Okay, Gregory. So in the situation with Gregory,

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Speaker 1: if you have the franchise tag him to bring him back,

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Speaker 1: do you you don't franchise you signed a long term

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Speaker 1: deal with him right now? Possibly if you move the

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Speaker 1: money around. I think that's what they're trying to do.

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Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think they can fit twenty

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Speaker 1: million under the cap on for a one year deal

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Speaker 1: this year. They definitely don't want to long term. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so you're gonna go long term deal with Randy Gregory.

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Speaker 1: And then the other guy was Curse Curse Okay, and

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Speaker 1: you're seeing Curse based off of last year's performance. He

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Speaker 1: earned his way him in with dan Quinn. I mean

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Speaker 1: he's basic. I mean, he's outside of dan quinn system.

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if I want him because

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Speaker 1: I don't know what he provides based upon you know

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Speaker 1: his utilization, but within dan quinn system, absolutely we've seen

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Speaker 1: his value. Okay, Now the wildcard, the wildcard for you

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Speaker 1: was Tank. All right. Now here's the question about Tank,

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Speaker 1: because even Stephen Jones would not commit on Tank's contract

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Speaker 1: based off of production, but where he was the numbers

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Speaker 1: that he put up last season, Let's allow a little

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Speaker 1: grace because of the foot injury. Do you believe that

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Speaker 1: it is possible that he is going to give you

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Speaker 1: the production that lives up to the contract. So is

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Speaker 1: he a guy that you're restructuring only to bring back

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Speaker 1: or what are your thoughts on I don't see a

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Speaker 1: d Law back here. I don't, Man. I know a

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Speaker 1: lot of Cowboys Nation not gonna like that, but I

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Speaker 1: just don't see it happening. I don't see how you

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Speaker 1: can justify paying d Law as much of a leader

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Speaker 1: on his team as he is, as much of an

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Speaker 1: effort guy as he is. I just don't see the

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Speaker 1: production and even and I honestly, I didn't know a

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Speaker 1: whole lot about d Law and prior to these last

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Speaker 1: few years of working with the boys, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I came into the season, Okay, I'm gonna be more

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna ch this cat. I'm gonna watch how dominant

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Speaker 1: he is. I hear so much about him, and I

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Speaker 1: just did not see the dominant aspect of it. Did

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Speaker 1: I see an effective pass rusher? Yes, dominant pass rusher?

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Speaker 1: Never felt that. I never felt that. Hey, guess what

577
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Speaker 1: on this like the fourth down in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: You know Aaron Donald one on one, Aaron Donald's winning that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're not. We're getting the sack, right, You're not stopping him.

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Speaker 1: I don't. Never I've never felt in any situation that

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Speaker 1: d Law lineup because of the tackle that oh he's

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Speaker 1: about to destroy him. Never felt that. And that's and

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Speaker 1: that's a guy that you're playing paying a really pretty

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Speaker 1: penny two too. So in that question, man, maybe he

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Speaker 1: won't be one of your guys to get on the bus.

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Speaker 1: But pee, I'm I'm gonna swing this over to you, man,

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Speaker 1: So give me four and and we'll throw a wild

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Speaker 1: card in there. I was just real quick. I was

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Speaker 1: looking at spoke track. DeMarcus is set to make nineteen

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Speaker 1: million dollars base salary in twenty twenty two. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's just that's that's the reality. What they got to

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Speaker 1: figure out and he and am good for him. We'll see.

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Speaker 1: But if I had to just pick four, this kind

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Speaker 1: of heck, this reminds me of space Jam. Space Jam.

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Speaker 1: There was a there was a column on ESPN it

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Speaker 1: was like, if you had to pick a group to

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Speaker 1: Earth in basketball, who would you take? It's a great discussion,

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Speaker 1: but I the door just opened for you. Bradley made

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Speaker 1: that team, not my team. Well, Sean Bradley is somewhere going.

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Speaker 1: Actually I wish I wish all the best for him. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: just changed. But I'm talking, I'm thinking, yeah, sorry, Um,

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Speaker 1: I would say if I had to pick four four

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Speaker 1: A Micah Trayvon Diggs, Michael's already on the bus. He's

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Speaker 1: already on bus, So no more more more. Michael's already

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Speaker 1: on Trayvon Diggs, Randy Gregory, Geron Curse, and I'd go

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Speaker 1: to Marcus Lawrence. Hey, consistency around these parts. I'd go

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Speaker 1: to Marcus Lawrence because I think he's a guy. He

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Speaker 1: he brings that fire, that energy for this team, and

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Speaker 1: I think they think this defense needs that to build

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Speaker 1: on what they did last year. But I'm with you like,

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Speaker 1: I just don't know if he's he's in your four,

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Speaker 1: he's in your core four. So who's your wild card? Yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 1: because he was my wild card. Gallimore was my four

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Speaker 1: for four or five. That's a great question. Who am

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Speaker 1: I missing here? Are you? Osa? Are you going linebacker?

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Speaker 1: Are you going late into another position? They don't have

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Speaker 1: any of Um. I almost Oh, you know what, I

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Speaker 1: almost picked for my wildcart, not my wild carp, but

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Speaker 1: from my core four. Yeah, I almost picked him. Provided

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Speaker 1: he's back. I think he's got healthy, dominant in this.

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Speaker 1: But you're basing that off of potential. I'm basing that

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Speaker 1: off of that one play that he had on the

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Speaker 1: gold line, off of one play, off of one play

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Speaker 1: that's potential. I could see it. I could see him in.

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Speaker 1: I know Dan, I know dan Quinn, and I know

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Speaker 1: when dan Quinn Sawday he's at all. Shoot, I got one. Um.

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Speaker 1: I would go Gallimore because I think with a full season,

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Speaker 1: they really think he could be special, honestly, so I'd

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Speaker 1: go with him. But Osa's right there too, because I

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Speaker 1: think they feel great about him as a long term

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Speaker 1: VET guy in the league. Now so much has been

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Speaker 1: made guys, I think y'all. You smashed it, and though

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Speaker 1: thing around. I want I want to throw Donna in there,

638
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: But y'all would have been like, okay, okaygi No, I mean,

639
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: if that's your pick, that's your guy. If you're gonna

640
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: say wild card, throw Donna and there. I didn't do it.

641
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: I think. I mean, we just basically we just picked

642
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: the best players on defense, right I don't I don't

643
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: know if we missed anybody, you could you could have

644
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: said also Diggizor and you could have said wild card

645
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: Brent Urban because he you know, you could have went

646
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: a lot of different ways. It'd be nice to bring him.

647
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: You're taking Brent over there over in the Bill Gallimore. No,

648
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: I'm not. This is not taking them off of the team.

649
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: This is basically saying, these are my core guys that

650
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: we're saying is going to get on this bus with

651
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: Michael because we know that the Bazuka is going to

652
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: need help in twenty twenty two. Do we get to

653
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: do this on offense too, or we're just doing defense.

654
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: We're just doing it on defense because I know if

655
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 1: I do this here, you're gonna be able to take

656
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: up for some personal endellas out there. I don't want

657
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: to do that to you right now. The Cowboys only

658
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: have three people on their roster as a position of

659
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: a linebackers. It's a it's pretty bad. It's an issue.

660
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: Chris Cox, Parsons and DeVante Bond. Even Luke Gifford's restricted

661
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: free A yeah, but I could see him coming. Yeah,

662
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: he's restricted. So yeah, Luke on spot track to have

663
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: bash him as a linebacker, which I see him more

664
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: of his end. Yeah. Absolutely. Now I love that we

665
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: started off the season offseason last year talking about culture

666
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: and dan Quinn and what his effect has been will

667
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: be on the defense. And obviously he didn't disappoint. He

668
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: was everything that Isaiah said he would be as far

669
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: as a culture changer, a guy that's going to change

670
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,959
Speaker 1: the locker room. We saw that immediately with the numbers

671
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: on our defense. With a second year under his cap,

672
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: the defense went from basement to middle of the pack.

673
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: Middle of the pack. I mean, it's keep it real,

674
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: all right, but also this defense had twenty six turnovers

675
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: last season. You cannot expect to have twenty six turnovers.

676
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: But if there's something that dan Quinn is going to

677
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: have to sacrifice, whether it be turnovers, stopping the run

678
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 1: or the pass. Which do you think the Cowboys are

679
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: going to be more efficient at next season? Need to

680
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: be or will be? Will you say need need to?

681
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 1: I would say pass pass defense. They you know, the

682
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: run game they struggle with at times, but I thought

683
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: it was way better than the year before. Everything was um,

684
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 1: you need those takeaways, but I don't know if they

685
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: can count on that. Like you said, they've got to

686
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: be able to stay because chunk plays or what what

687
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: this league's all about, And there were games where they

688
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: gave up way too many of those back in the secondary. Yeah,

689
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 1: I would have to agree with Rope to pass defense,

690
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: and not even particular the big play, because the big

691
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: plays a low percentage play. I would think that the

692
00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: more the shorter down in distances, giving up those easy

693
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 1: slants and playing soft coverage up front, I think that

694
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: they have to secure that. I think Trayvon Diggs has

695
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 1: to improve upon his coverage skills. I think that he

696
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: does a good job taking advantage. When a ball is

697
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: badly thrown in his direction, he will make you pay

698
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: for that. But I don't think that he has stepped

699
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: into the light of a shut down corner yet, and

700
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: I think he can. I think he will relatively quickly.

701
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 1: But I think that he's gonna need to go get

702
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: in a hit pocket of Neon Dion and some of

703
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 1: the other events that the Cowboys have at their disposal

704
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 1: to really learn the technique aspect of it in terms

705
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: of getting up in. These guys grill because they're not

706
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 1: going to challenge him down the field. They're gonna try

707
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 1: to eat him up, you know, five ten yards down

708
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 1: the field, and that's a part of his game that

709
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: if he if he owns that, which I think he

710
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: will probably this year, he'll take He'll take that step.

711
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 1: He's gonna be ridiculous. Trayvon Traymon. Yeah. The only thing is,

712
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: I mean teams kept testing him down the field with

713
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: the double moves, and I don't know. It's like a

714
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,399
Speaker 1: fine line between what makes you great is his aggressiveness

715
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: and gambling at times, but you don't want to lose that,

716
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: but you also don't want to give up those big plays.

717
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: And that's why I think if he improves upon his

718
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: actual coverage skills and the you know, like I say,

719
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: fifteen yards and end, I think if he gains the

720
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: confidence in that regard, he won't take as many chances.

721
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: And I think that he cuts back on those double play,

722
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: on those double moves because now he's not having to

723
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 1: jump at it because he feels I think right now

724
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 1: he feels like I have to take advantage of big play.

725
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta je I have to make that

726
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: big play versus just resting assured in his cover skills.

727
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: So like when I played against like Darrell Revers, you know,

728
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 1: we we would go against each other. When I was

729
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 1: with New England, he was with the Jets. That boy

730
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: was just just chill. He didn't he wasn't jumping out

731
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: no plays like the ball came his way. Cool, I'll

732
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 1: take it. But like you didn't feel like he was

733
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 1: like anxious, like I had to go get this thing.

734
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 1: Like he just was. There was this calm over over

735
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 1: over Revers and in Revers Island that he was just

736
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: like I got this. You know, if you guys want

737
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: to test me, I'll make you pay. But I'm not

738
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:51,399
Speaker 1: jumping at opportunities. Yeah, I mean the maturity of Trey

739
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: Von digs a lot all of these guys. I mean,

740
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see what Mica is going to be

741
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,760
Speaker 1: in his second season, coming off of a dominant rookie season.

742
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: Can he said at the bar so high, is there

743
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: any way that he could elevate his play to be better?

744
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: I just think of And I posed the question like

745
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: this because I actually saw an interview of Kenney the

746
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: Jet Smith on NBA on T ANDT. He's talking about

747
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 1: how when he came into the season, came into his

748
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 1: rookie season, how Bill Russell was his coach at the

749
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:25,720
Speaker 1: Sacramento Kings and Bill Russell, the Great Bill Russell Boston

750
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 1: Celtics grade told him, Hey, on when we go on

751
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 1: the road, you sitting next to me. When we get

752
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: on planes, you sitting next to me. And he was like, why,

753
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 1: why don't I have to sit next to you? And

754
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: Bill said, look, because I don't want you sitting next

755
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: to any of those losers, you know, And basically what

756
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: he's saying, I don't want you to pick up any

757
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: bad habits from many of the guys that are not

758
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: going to be here. In the future, and I look

759
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 1: at Michael Parsons the same way. I'm not calling anybody losers.

760
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: What what I'm saying is you want him to be

761
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: the leader of the defense next season, and in doing that,

762
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: he's going to have to have guys around him that

763
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: understand that, Look, I am this apex on I'm special talent.

764
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 1: I think we can all agree that he is a

765
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: generational talent. But having the guys around him, a core

766
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 1: group that's gonna give this Cowboys defense that level that

767
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 1: of on defense that you've seen some of the greater

768
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 1: defenses throughout the league play with to get you that

769
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 1: super Bowl. Look, defense is still win championships. I don't

770
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: care what nobody said, what what veteran orgeous player on

771
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 1: his defense? Do you think that Michael Parsons would look

772
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 1: up to? That's I don't think any of them because

773
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: I don't think any of them have played to his level.

774
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, look at what he's done in

775
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: his rookie season, and I think Mica has a high

776
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 1: enough IQ to be able to google these guys and

777
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: look at their career stats to say, look, my trajectory

778
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,479
Speaker 1: is on a whole another level from where those guys

779
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: are not saying that he can't take advantage take advice

780
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 1: from other guys. I just think that he's an eagle.

781
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 1: I think he's not an eagle, he's a I'm talking

782
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 1: about the animal eagle. Okay. I think he's a lion,

783
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 1: not even you know what he's up a zoo, guys.

784
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,320
Speaker 1: What I'm trying to say, so, that's that's a unique

785
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: quality that he has. And I think that you know,

786
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: even when you go back to Michael Irvin when he

787
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: came on from Miami and they had that losing season,

788
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: they bring in Jimmy Johnson, they had to find guys

789
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 1: that would live up to the level of play that

790
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: Michael Irvin had. I think you see the same thing

791
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 1: with Michael. So who's gonna get on the bus with

792
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 1: Michael is? Why? Is really why I asked that question. No,

793
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: that's a great question. I would say last year he

794
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 1: probably looked up to a guy like Tank who's been

795
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: doing this a long time and it's been kind of

796
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: leader of the defense. I would say Randy two. Based

797
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: on everything. I think guys respect what Randy's been through

798
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: in his personal life and come out on the other

799
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 1: end and have a really good season and finally be

800
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: in a position to get paid. Yeah, I would say

801
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 1: maybe those two. But I hear you, what do you think?

802
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: I mean? Would you what do they have to fix

803
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: the most? In your mind? I just looked it up.

804
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: They got Cowboys offense had sixty three explosive pass plays

805
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: last year. The opposing team's got sixty two. So you'd

806
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: like that to calm down a little bit um and

807
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: and you know, maintaining a big pass rush. I think

808
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 1: it's the biggest part of that. No, I just felt

809
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: like there were times in the season where guys were

810
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 1: kind of relying on number eleven to get to the

811
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 1: ball do things, and you have a dynamic player like that,

812
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 1: you feel like, hell, he could do it all, Like, yeah,

813
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: you know, you guys are gonna play backup singers, didn't cool?

814
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 1: You know you see this guy being the star of

815
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:24,280
Speaker 1: the show. Yeah, you know, and get his case Jojo.

816
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,919
Speaker 1: So that's what that's really what I mean. But also

817
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: I think that dan Quinn in his second season, he

818
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 1: has got to be salivating right now, understanding that he

819
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,240
Speaker 1: has this special weapon that he can put design plays

820
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 1: for him. Now, what's gonna make Mica better? Hey, Isaiah,

821
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 1: we've gone toe to toe or whether he's an edge

822
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: or linebacker at some point. I don't know if you

823
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: have to decide whether he's one or the other. But

824
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: I think teams when as the season went, they understand

825
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: stood that, Hey, if he's on the other side at edge,

826
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 1: we're just gonna run away from him. Are we're gonna

827
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 1: scheme for him? Are we gonn run at him? But

828
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: so much of what he did this year at the

829
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: end position was because you weren't getting that pressure, or

830
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: you didn't have guys, or you didn't have guys were hurt. Right,

831
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: we had guys ever hurt. So I mean, but like you,

832
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: we started talking about d Law and the fact that

833
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 1: he has like you felt like you had a much

834
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: greater chance of getting to the quarterback with Parsons at

835
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 1: end than you did with d Law because where you

836
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: moved d Law, d Law got moved into the inside.

837
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: You put Parsons in the outside. So you got your

838
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 1: twenty million dollars man on the inside. Yeah, doing spin

839
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 1: moves in place, and you put your rookie on the outside.

840
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 1: So I'm saying that that says a lot, is all.

841
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying, yeah, the decision has already been made.

842
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: When you see you know what I mean? Like it

843
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: says a lot. There's no way that the Michael Parsons

844
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: would be on this roster. Was DeMarcus where DeMarcus where

845
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: is moving inside? Sorry not happening. That being said, you

846
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, do you worry? Would it be? Like? Nah? Player? Like, yeah,

847
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 1: I don't care what coach said you you got on

848
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 1: over there. So, but that being said, if if tanks

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Speaker 1: I mean, you want to keep Mike in that hybrid role? Right?

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Speaker 1: I think we all agree with us. So then did

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Speaker 1: And that's what they're gonna have to do because I

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Speaker 1: don't know, they're not going to spend big money on

857
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Speaker 1: a guy to replace. That's gonna be Randy Gregory's contract.

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Speaker 1: How many draft picks do you have? You only have

859
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Speaker 1: a few draft picks, so it's gonna if it's no

860
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 1: tank again, how are you better? How you better. That

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Speaker 1: You know, who's better behind Coop? If who's better behind

863
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865
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Speaker 1: been the darling of the front office for a long time.

867
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Speaker 1: Are we kidding ourselves? Are these guys really even capable

868
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869
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Speaker 1: DQ comes in, because that's what I mean. He's got

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Speaker 1: finding a way to coach guys up. And I mean, honestly, though,

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Speaker 1: DQ felt better coming into the season last year or

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Speaker 1: you think he's gonna be feeling better coming into the

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Speaker 1: to be free. I honestly thought that he may have

879
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Speaker 1: felt better last season. He may have felt better last season.

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Speaker 1: And I say that because of he knew what Osa

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Speaker 1: Keen O'Neill, maybe he didn't play up to that level,

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884
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885
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886
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Speaker 1: But the one thing that I'm confident about about DQ

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888
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Speaker 1: also with our front office's ability to include the coach

890
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891
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892
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897
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898
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899
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902
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Speaker 1: guys woke up thinking about this morning what's that. Who's

1002
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Speaker 1: the backup quarterback gonna be for the Dallas Cowboys. I mean,

1003
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Speaker 1: I'll tell y'all, I love my life and I'm gonna

1004
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Speaker 1: be right here with you guys. It joined more of

1005
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Speaker 1: my life. Okay. But we saw Cooper Rush last season.

1006
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Speaker 1: He came in a spot duty and got us a

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Speaker 1: win on Halloween night in the Minnesota. Came in clutch,

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1009
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Speaker 1: yesterday I watched it again. It was awesome to see

1010
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1011
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Speaker 1: knew he was going to be playing that day. We

1012
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Speaker 1: didn't though, But obviously there are there are a lot

1013
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:55,760
Speaker 1: of free agents and guys that we could talk about,

1014
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: but in they've been you know, people have been talking

1015
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 1: about certain ter backs being able to come in here

1016
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 1: and push the forty million dollar quarterback. So I ask you, guys,

1017
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 1: does Dak Prescott need a backup quarterback that will have

1018
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Speaker 1: him looking over his shoulder or let's just use fluffy

1019
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: your language push him. The Cowboys don't do that. The

1020
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Speaker 1: Cowboys historically don't do that. They don't bring in quarterbacks

1021
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: to push their starting quarterback. They shy away from that

1022
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Speaker 1: as much as possible, Tony never had it. Yeah, I mean,

1023
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Speaker 1: I mean he had veteran backups behind him, but it

1024
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: was always like, it's just my role to be ready,

1025
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Speaker 1: and it wasn't a It was never a competition, not

1026
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Speaker 1: that it necessarily should have been, but yeah, you're right.

1027
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Speaker 1: I mean the thing that the first memory I have

1028
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Speaker 1: of Dak coming into this organization was he was at

1029
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: the Old Valley Ranch rookie mini camp and he's got

1030
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: a crowd of people around him, new draft pick, and

1031
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Speaker 1: he taught he said something to the fact of it's

1032
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 1: my job to push Tony. And I've never heard a

1033
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,479
Speaker 1: backup quarterbacks say that here behind Tony Romo ever, Nay

1034
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Speaker 1: Brad Johnson, not Kyle Orton. Body. Now, did you not think,

1035
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Speaker 1: when you are a fan of Andy Dalton when Andy

1036
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Speaker 1: came in, that that was maybe a simple a situation

1037
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Speaker 1: where there's a veteran sitting behind you that possibly could

1038
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 1: push you. That was their version of securing the bag.

1039
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Speaker 1: That was their version of making sure that they had

1040
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Speaker 1: a bulletproof backup. That's what they were trying to ensure.

1041
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Speaker 1: And I think through that process things didn't necessarily go

1042
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Speaker 1: that way. Even though the office of line was in shambles,

1043
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 1: they still looked at it as we spent too much

1044
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: money on that position for what the production that we got.

1045
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Speaker 1: So we're going to go back to what we used

1046
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Speaker 1: to do, which was pay slim to nothing for backups. Yeah.

1047
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Speaker 1: I don't think Dak is a type of guy who

1048
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Speaker 1: needs to be pushed. I just don't know we're talking

1049
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Speaker 1: about contracts. I just I unless something changes, I could

1050
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Speaker 1: see Cooper Rush and Will Greer competing for the backup

1051
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Speaker 1: job because they don't cost a lot of money. I mean,

1052
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Speaker 1: Cooper Rush is set to make just over a million

1053
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Speaker 1: bucks this year. That's perfect for their cap situation right now.

1054
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Speaker 1: Do they need to look for an upgrade? I would say, yeah,

1055
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Speaker 1: that's just because if you lose, if you quarterback goes down,

1056
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Speaker 1: like in twenty twenty, look what happens. Don't you hate

1057
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 1: paying for insurance every month? Car insurance? But you do?

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00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 1: You better do it? You hate it? Right? Yeah? I

1059
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 1: hate it, but I hate it. Comes needs me for

1060
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: like two forty a month insurance with no we'll talk

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00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 1: about that. We're in the guy co studio. Yeah, you

1062
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like two forty a month. So

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00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 1: I hate paying it, but guess what, I do it

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00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 1: because if the worst case scenario happens, I need to

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00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,320
Speaker 1: know that I'm covered. I love that you said that,

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00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 1: and I think that right now we're suffering from a

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00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: little bit of recency bias because Dak did play through

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00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 1: the season. But if we were in twenty twenty one,

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00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 1: we'd be talking about this completely different. And I think

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00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 1: we had the conversation about it because we were so

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00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 1: nervous after seeing being Nucie Man all right, Cooper Russian,

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00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 1: who's my yah? Gilbert all right, Gilbert double G and W.

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Speaker 1: I mean, so imagine that, so we go through a

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00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 1: season where Dak gets injured, we have to see Cooper

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00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: Rush come off to madnee does get us a victory,

1076
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 1: but still we understand those seasons where something has happened.

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00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 1: Dak is now having, you know, clean up surgery on

1078
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:07,359
Speaker 1: his non throwing shoulder. He had the injury on his calf.

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00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 1: There may be other things that we don't know about.

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00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 1: Missed all training camp with the right shoulders come on.

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00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 1: That doesn't have to necessarily be a terrible, horrific injury

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00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,240
Speaker 1: that like he had in twenty twenty, just little stuff

1083
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:19,839
Speaker 1: where if you lose your quarterback for three games, could

1084
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 1: say whatever. Now, I'm with you. That's what I'm saying.

1085
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 1: Let's not act like it's all good. Let's not do that.

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00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 1: So I mean, if you have an opportunity to go

1087
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 1: out here and get a guy that's been in the

1088
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:34,320
Speaker 1: league for a while, I e. Marrioa, somebody like that, Marryoldau,

1089
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 1: do you go and get that tier of a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Not saying that he has torn up the league by

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00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 1: any sort of the imagination, but again, he's probably a

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00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 1: guy that pushes you. Get somebody that you know can

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00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 1: handle the job if you're put in that situation. I

1094
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 1: don't think that it has to be somebody that pushes you.

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00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 1: I do think it needs to be somebody that the

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00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 1: team respects and has full confidence in that they can

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00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,760
Speaker 1: step in and a field their role as the backup.

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00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 1: I e. Kansas City situation. Chance Hitty's one hundred and

1099
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 1: seventy two years old. I played with him in Jacksonville.

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Speaker 1: He's still around backing up who freaking Patrick Mahomes. Why?

1101
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 1: Because he's a sure thing, there's no question marks. He

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00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 1: knows how to run the offense. Guys respect him. He's

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00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 1: going to be around. He's knowledgeable. They could throw the ball,

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00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 1: he can make all the throws. He could do everything

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00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 1: he needs to do. Is he gonna put You were

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00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 1: talking about a quarterback. Who was that quarterback you were

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00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: talking about last season that did come in and win

1108
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 1: a game for a team. Oh? Man, I think it was.

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00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 1: I can't think of his name, but you were talking

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Speaker 1: about a backup quarterback, one of the guys that you

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00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 1: would just recognize. My bad. Oh you're good, you're good, man.

1112
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 1: But it's important. It's important, And I think that the

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00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 1: Cowboys are fooling themselves if they think that they can

1114
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 1: go into another season not having that secured or they

1115
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 1: feel good about it. They maybe they just are that

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00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 1: confident in their backups and something that we just haven't

1117
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 1: seen much of. And that might be the case as well.

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00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 1: I could be wrong, but I just number one, I

1119
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 1: can't see them like Andy Dalton fell in their lap,

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00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 1: you know, because he's from here. But even so, they

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00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,439
Speaker 1: spent gave him a three million dollars deal that could

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00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 1: have gone to five or something like that. I just

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00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 1: don't know if they have that kind of change anyway

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00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 1: for that position. But I definitely could see them saying, look,

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Speaker 1: Cooper Rush won us a game last year, another year

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00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:16,439
Speaker 1: in the system, He's good with Kellen Moore, Will Greer

1127
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 1: was coached by Doug nust Meyer. Like, they're comfortable with

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Speaker 1: those guys. I could just see that happening. So right

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00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 1: now you are comfortable with saying stat quo everyone in

1130
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:30,800
Speaker 1: the room at the desk. No, I'm not. We're just

1131
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 1: understanding what the Cowboys are doing. Yeah, because I mean

1132
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 1: we're necessarily comfortable with it. Chris being come off the

1133
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 1: top rope right now, man, I'm want to tell me,

1134
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 1: are you okay at the backup quarterback position or are

1135
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 1: you saying, look, we're gonna go stay with Cooper Rush

1136
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 1: or do you think we need to do something more

1137
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,879
Speaker 1: and free agency to bring in a capable backup. Well,

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00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 1: Coop's fine, I think because I mean, Coop won a

1139
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 1: game for you. All you needed a guy come in

1140
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: and win one game? Right Yep? No, I mean what

1141
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Chase Daniel is probably who you're thinking about.

1142
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 1: He was with the Kansas City Chiefs for a while

1143
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,399
Speaker 1: the wind up with the Chargers. Correct, Yeah, but Henny

1144
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,760
Speaker 1: has started games in the league. Yeah, kind of like Dalton.

1145
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 1: You know, you put you get a guy like that

1146
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:15,320
Speaker 1: as your backup, that's pretty good situation to be in.

1147
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 1: It's the guy he has the mustache, like, oh yeah,

1148
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 1: my guy from midshoe competitor. Yeah, so that's what That's

1149
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 1: what I mean a guy like that. Let you know,

1150
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 1: that's a complete competitor guy. You know, it's could come

1151
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 1: off the matt He's gonna do everything that you need. Yeah,

1152
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 1: he is your guy. But real quick, guys, before we

1153
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 1: get out of here. The Competition Committee is meeting again

1154
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 1: and they're talking about the overtime rules and they want

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00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 1: to change it. They want to change the overtime rules.

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00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 1: Can they change kickoff at the process unless he freaking

1157
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 1: kickoff actually get returned. Well, they're just trying to save

1158
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 1: people from being able to the game. Come on now,

1159
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 1: let's take it out of the Pro Bowl. Sorry, I

1160
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 1: got I got this straight. It frustrates me. It just

1161
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 1: frustrates me. There's no point of kick, no more play.

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00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 1: Nice Isaiah, I'm trying. I'm not very I'm direct. The

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00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 1: Competition Committee, did they have this hip is looking into

1164
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:13,919
Speaker 1: overtime and they are trying to figure out a way

1165
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 1: to give both teams an opportunity to score no matter what.

1166
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 1: Because of the Kansas City Buffalo game. I guess no

1167
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 1: one ever wanted that game to end. They could still

1168
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 1: be playing right now for fans if they care. Really,

1169
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 1: is that why Kyle is an Indeed, did he go

1170
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 1: up there just to deliver that proposal like is in

1171
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 1: the meetings with maybe so because you know, he was

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00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 1: one of the people that was definitely saying that he

1173
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 1: wanted that. But how do you guys feel about that

1174
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 1: in overtime rules? I've turned around on it. I used

1175
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 1: to when we brought it up and Kyle went on

1176
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 1: his I mean it was like a rant for ten

1177
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 1: minutes about it. I was like, I don't really care.

1178
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 1: I mean, it's fine. You know, they already adjusted it once.

1179
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 1: But I saw some stat about the percentage of teams

1180
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 1: that get it first when there is something to it,

1181
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 1: there's data behind it that maybe, you know, let's make

1182
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 1: this more fair for both teams to have a shot.

1183
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 1: You know, this league is so I'm okay with the

1184
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 1: rule change if they do it. This league is so

1185
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 1: offensive driven that is making me sick. It really makes

1186
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 1: me sick that people even are even considering that, like

1187
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 1: whatever happened to putting your defense on the field and

1188
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 1: getting a stop, is that is that a far gone

1189
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 1: conclusion that that could happen, And that happened the next

1190
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 1: week come on though, championship game and went overtime. Kansas

1191
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 1: City won the toss. They was a three and out

1192
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 1: and then Burrow got the ball back and they won

1193
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 1: the game. It isn't doing it though, would be a

1194
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:41,919
Speaker 1: closer step towards college with the twenty five yard line

1195
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 1: and all that, which I think is really exciting. I

1196
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 1: used to think it was kind of tricked up in

1197
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 1: the beginning, but now I think it's really cool. You

1198
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 1: still on the side of it whatever, Who cares. There's

1199
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 1: pros and concert at all. Yeah, if you keep going

1200
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 1: to the point where everybody's getting shot, these games would

1201
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 1: never end. I think that. Yeah, reality is And why

1202
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 1: they're not doing those doing that is because the TV

1203
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 1: they have to they have time frames that they have

1204
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 1: to get off the air. That's the reality. Yeah, because

1205
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 1: the next game, because the next games is starting. Money

1206
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 1: rest the world and money runs football, and if they

1207
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 1: change this rule, I am just I'm not gonna be livid,

1208
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 1: but I think it's just going to what I already

1209
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 1: know about the NFL. They want to give the offense

1210
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 1: the competitive advantage always, and they're just dumbing it down because,

1211
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 1: oh my god, it's not exciting unless the offenses are

1212
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 1: throwing for seven hundred yards a game. Oh my god,

1213
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 1: let's throw it sixty times a game. Give the fans

1214
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 1: something that they want. Anyway, guys, I'm gonna end this

1215
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 1: thing by just saying thank you for rocking with us

1216
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 1: for an entire hour. It flew by. We'll be back

1217
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 1: in the studio next Tuesday. And tell a friend to

1218
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 1: tell a friend that is TCT talking Cowboys on a Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: I'm out. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys

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