Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.
Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford. He is the one and only
Speaker 1: west Hodkowitz. We're coming to you here from our studios
Speaker 1: at lambeau Field and Weston. Shortly after we get done
Speaker 1: taping this show, we've got a head to the airport
Speaker 1: and catch a plane for Winnipeg. We're off to Canada.
Speaker 1: Don't say that one every day. Yeah, I don't know
Speaker 1: if we'll ever say it again. But Packers third preseason
Speaker 1: game against the Oakland Raiders at the Winnipeg Blue Bombers
Speaker 1: Football Stadium. Right field, Yeah, I G field, Um a
Speaker 1: CFL excuse me, CFL field for the Blue Bombers. But
Speaker 1: real quickly as we get rolling preseason game number three,
Speaker 1: it's not really quite the same as preseason games number
Speaker 1: three of the past. Aaron Rodgers still t b d
Speaker 1: ist whether or not he will play and play at
Speaker 1: all in this preseason. But who do you have your
Speaker 1: eye on heading into this one? You know what is
Speaker 1: funny before we even get into that. Back in the day,
Speaker 1: I know again you're big Matten player. I was too
Speaker 1: when you would simulate the franchise mode the third preseason game.
Speaker 1: I think they always had the starters playing three quarters
Speaker 1: in that game. John even talked about it when we
Speaker 1: did our three Things video on Tuesday about how you
Speaker 1: know the game has changed in that regard so well.
Speaker 1: It isn't the three or the third preseason game in
Speaker 1: the past. It's the third preseason game we have now.
Speaker 1: So you're gonna get a chance for probably a series
Speaker 1: or two to see the starters one last time. Now,
Speaker 1: whether or not Aaron Rodgers is on the field, that's
Speaker 1: still up in the air, but you're going to see
Speaker 1: the starting offensive line. You're gonna see Mike Patton's defense
Speaker 1: there again. So when I talk about and when I
Speaker 1: look at who is my player to watch, I've said
Speaker 1: it on three different videos and an insider Inbox, it's
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones because I just look at where the Packers
Speaker 1: run game has been at and I put this line
Speaker 1: in inbox for Thursday. The narrative right now is that
Speaker 1: it's been off to a slow start on the ground.
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones can flip that on its head with one run.
Speaker 1: He's that talented, he's that explosive, and Mike, we have
Speaker 1: wasted so much breath and energy and words talking about
Speaker 1: him and Jamal Williams and Matt Lafleur's offense. I'm excited
Speaker 1: to almost be at a point that we can finally
Speaker 1: see it because I think it's going to be dynamic
Speaker 1: and assuming. I don't know if it will be this Thursday,
Speaker 1: but if they can get Danny Vitally back in this
Speaker 1: next week, and the compliment that these guys offer each
Speaker 1: other in terms of pass catchers, in terms of past protection.
Speaker 1: We saw Aaron Jones some of the strides he's made
Speaker 1: in pass pro this camp. It's not just about the
Speaker 1: explosive gains out of the backfield. It's how those players
Speaker 1: can be utilized in the entire construct of the offense.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm excited to see, and we're probably gonna
Speaker 1: see it for a series. Aaron Jones up in Canada. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur did confirm that Jones would play a series
Speaker 1: or two, emphasizing that treating him a little bit differently
Speaker 1: in his thought process than Aaron Rodgers, and that when
Speaker 1: there isn't contact through the spring, there isn't full contact
Speaker 1: in training camp. A running back the whole ball security thing.
Speaker 1: You just need to get hit a couple of times,
Speaker 1: you know, before you get into a game that counts
Speaker 1: and and take that first real hit and that first
Speaker 1: real tackle. But I also want to talk about a
Speaker 1: couple of other guys who are slated anyway as far
Speaker 1: as we know, to make their preseason debuts for this year.
Speaker 1: One of them is second year cornerback Josh Jackson, the
Speaker 1: second round pick from last year out of Iowa. Now
Speaker 1: we've spent a lot of time obviously talking about the
Speaker 1: cornerback position. Kevin King's still sideline with a hamstring injury.
Speaker 1: We've seen Tony Brown step up and do some things.
Speaker 1: We've seen Kedar Holman as well, but now Holman is
Speaker 1: out with a stinger and most likely not playing this week.
Speaker 1: Josh Jackson has been brought back kind of slowly, I
Speaker 1: guess you might say, from the foot injury that sidelined
Speaker 1: him the first couple of weeks of training camp. But
Speaker 1: he has been in eleven on eleven. He actually was
Speaker 1: in some eleven on eleven as a nickelback with the
Speaker 1: Ones for a few snaps in practice this week. So
Speaker 1: that is a sign that he's going to get in
Speaker 1: there and uh and show what he can do and
Speaker 1: and frankly, he's kind of been a little bit of
Speaker 1: a forgotten guy in this in this cornerback competition because
Speaker 1: we've seen so much of those other guys and then
Speaker 1: he was out with that foot injury and just now
Speaker 1: trying to get back into things. The timing was unfortunate
Speaker 1: for a second year player. Now, it's never a good
Speaker 1: time to miss practice or miss training camps, but that
Speaker 1: first few weeks, Mike, that's when you're installing the defense
Speaker 1: for the second time. They do it the first time
Speaker 1: during the off season program and O T a s
Speaker 1: in minicamp, but that second time is starting to be
Speaker 1: your your final run through, so to speak, before you
Speaker 1: start scheming, and for him to miss that, certainly, there
Speaker 1: are the mental reps and there are those type of
Speaker 1: things that you can draw from. But let's be honest.
Speaker 1: I think one of the reasons why Tony Brown has
Speaker 1: come on the way he has and can dark Holman
Speaker 1: has come on in the shape that he has is
Speaker 1: because they've been taking those first team reps. They've been
Speaker 1: in there with Adrian Amos, with Darnielle Savage since he's returned,
Speaker 1: with Trumon Williams. Those key veteran communicators and Amos and
Speaker 1: Williams standpoint that are going to be critical for those
Speaker 1: nickel and dime packages. Jackson has gotten back on the field,
Speaker 1: He has reacclimated himself to uh those team drills. The
Speaker 1: only thing missing at this point is getting back in
Speaker 1: the regular season game. I think you and I both
Speaker 1: probably you know, don't even really think about it, but
Speaker 1: Josh Jackson started ten games for this team last year.
Speaker 1: He played a lot of all they need him as well.
Speaker 1: You and I have said this countless times, especially if
Speaker 1: Kevin King is dealing with this hamstring issue right now.
Speaker 1: They need Josh Jackson to be a second round pick
Speaker 1: that steps up and plays well. And this is gonna
Speaker 1: be a really good litmus test for him, assuming he's
Speaker 1: out on the field on Thursday night, to start building
Speaker 1: that confidence back up and showing he can be a
Speaker 1: rotational part of this defense. Yeah. I mean, we've talked
Speaker 1: about it before West in this day in a in
Speaker 1: the NFL, as you're constructing the fifty three man roster,
Speaker 1: you want to have a solid half dozen cornerbacks that
Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator, that a position coach feels confident that
Speaker 1: they can step in and play because there are a
Speaker 1: lot of times you're gonna have four cornerbacks on the field,
Speaker 1: and it doesn't take much from an injury standpoint before
Speaker 1: you're tapping into number five and number six to be
Speaker 1: able to to keep your full complement of defensive packages
Speaker 1: and be able to call what you want to call
Speaker 1: uh forgiven game situations. So all of these guys, whether
Speaker 1: you're talking about King and Holman getting back from their injuries,
Speaker 1: or Jackson getting into some preseason action and what Tony
Speaker 1: Brown has done alongside Jaire Alexander, all of the all
Speaker 1: of these guys are going to have a place in
Speaker 1: Mike Patton's defense. I just don't see any other way around. No,
Speaker 1: they definitely will. And we talked so much about the corners,
Speaker 1: and rightfully so, but it does go into the safety
Speaker 1: position as well, because right now, Will Redmond is a
Speaker 1: kind of a hybrid between a corner in a safety.
Speaker 1: Natrelle Jamerson plays bolt spot. Candon Sullivan has gotten a
Speaker 1: lot of reps as a as an outside perimeter corner.
Speaker 1: This is gonna be critical timing for them too, because
Speaker 1: maybe you're keeping one of those guys when it shuffles
Speaker 1: down to it because who's going to be that sixth
Speaker 1: fifth cornerback or fourth you know, safety, or a guy
Speaker 1: that could play both spots and be a special team
Speaker 1: or there are so many question marks still to be
Speaker 1: answered there because, as you just said, a year ago,
Speaker 1: at this time, Mike, I didn't know who Tony Brown was.
Speaker 1: Tony Brown wasn't on this roster, and then he starts
Speaker 1: four games for this defense in this secondary plays an
Speaker 1: eleven contest for the Packers. So these are all the
Speaker 1: type of things and variables that you have to take
Speaker 1: into account when you're heading into a season, not just
Speaker 1: JayR Alexander and Tremont Williams and who's gonna be your
Speaker 1: front line, but who are going to be those guys
Speaker 1: that you're gonna be developing and counting on should an
Speaker 1: injury arise mid season. Yeah, no question, I bought it. Well.
Speaker 1: Another guy who's going to be making his preseason debut
Speaker 1: for nineteen more of a veteran player, fourth year receiver
Speaker 1: Trevor Davis. And we've talked a little bit about him
Speaker 1: in that through the spring and the opening part of
Speaker 1: training camp, I thought he was off to a fantastic start.
Speaker 1: He was putting the hamstring trouble and everything that derailed
Speaker 1: his season behind him. But then that first joint practice
Speaker 1: with the Houston Texans, he took what quite honestly was
Speaker 1: an unnecessary hit in a special teams drill gave him
Speaker 1: a stinger. Um. Now he feels like he's fighting this
Speaker 1: injury prone label, which I don't think is necessarily fair
Speaker 1: given that he was pretty healthy his first two years.
Speaker 1: Yesen was a lost season to injury, and what happened
Speaker 1: the thing with the Texans was just a freak accident.
Speaker 1: It wasn't anything of where he's not taking care of
Speaker 1: his body and whatnot. But regardless, in his absence, he
Speaker 1: misses about two weeks worth of training camp. We've seen
Speaker 1: Darius Shephard Alanzard raised their profiles in this receiver competition.
Speaker 1: Trevor Davis gets back on the practice fields Sunday on Monday.
Speaker 1: I thought he really really shined in practice. He was
Speaker 1: taking the ball on end around and he was taken
Speaker 1: shovel passes, He ran a deep route, made a great
Speaker 1: catch on a deep ball from Tim Boyle, showing all
Speaker 1: the different facets in which he can be involved in
Speaker 1: this offense and and the plan. Um that the Packers
Speaker 1: seem to be revealing in the spring for how they
Speaker 1: wanted to use him. But this competition is pretty stiff
Speaker 1: and he doesn't have any in game preseason snaps on
Speaker 1: film yet. This is his opportunity to do that. And
Speaker 1: as I've written about on our website and a story
Speaker 1: here on Davis heading into this game, he's ready to
Speaker 1: state his case and he has to do it now. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The one tragedy I think with Trevor Davis, and this
Speaker 1: is not a dig on Mike mccarthur, Tom Clements or anybody.
Speaker 1: You almost kind of wish he would come into the
Speaker 1: league now with Matt Lafleur than he did four years ago.
Speaker 1: And the reason I say that is because it just
Speaker 1: seems like, out of anyone maybe on the offensive side
Speaker 1: of the ball, this offense is probably tailored his skill
Speaker 1: set enough, with the motioning, with the misdirection, the bunch formations.
Speaker 1: He's not a traditional slot receiver. He actually plays a
Speaker 1: lot on the perimeter, so there's different ways that you
Speaker 1: can use him off screens of that nature. I just
Speaker 1: think that this offseason, going back to we were talking
Speaker 1: about this durn O t a s it just seems
Speaker 1: like he's so much more comfortable with what he's being
Speaker 1: asked to do right now, and it was it was
Speaker 1: really tragic that the situation happened that he got hurt
Speaker 1: when he did, because he was off to a great start.
Speaker 1: I thought. I thought he was playing tremendous football in practice.
Speaker 1: And the other dimension that you have to keep in
Speaker 1: mind when you think about Trevor Davis and you start
Speaker 1: to figure out your fifty three and your depth chart,
Speaker 1: Davis is a kickoff return or he's a punt return
Speaker 1: and he's a receiver, but as I talked to him
Speaker 1: about his locker, he's also arguably their best gunner on
Speaker 1: punt coverage. He's a guy who plays the front line
Speaker 1: on kickoff coverage. His body type when he's healthy, lends
Speaker 1: itself to a core four player. UM that's gonna go
Speaker 1: a long way. And the thing that Davis needs to
Speaker 1: do now is he needs to make some of those
Speaker 1: catches in the preseason that we've seen in practice. He
Speaker 1: needs to maybe pop a big return kind of like
Speaker 1: Shepard did with the at six yarder in Baltimore and
Speaker 1: show that I can be a complete player and I
Speaker 1: can be someone that pushes not only for a spot
Speaker 1: on the forty six to be a special teamer, but
Speaker 1: also a guy that can be counted on in the
Speaker 1: receiver rotation. Davis has shown everything you wanted to see
Speaker 1: from a young guy. He just needs to do it
Speaker 1: in a game. Now. Yeah, I want to pass along
Speaker 1: kind of a moment of enlightenment for me from the
Speaker 1: conversation that Davis had at his locker with reporters this week,
Speaker 1: because he was talking about the deep ball he caught
Speaker 1: from Tim Boyle where the ball was a little bit underthrown,
Speaker 1: so he had to slow up and a couple of
Speaker 1: defenders are converging. He waited until the last possible second
Speaker 1: and he put his hands out and he kept his
Speaker 1: hands down low and let the ball fall into them. Now,
Speaker 1: that's a technique that we've talked about before. It's called
Speaker 1: late hands. If you, as a receiver put your hands
Speaker 1: out too early, you're just giving the defender a chance.
Speaker 1: You're telling him the timing and giving him a chance
Speaker 1: to get his hands in the way and deflect the ball.
Speaker 1: So that's a technique that receivers use a lot. What
Speaker 1: I didn't realize is that Davis actually developed that tech
Speaker 1: that technique as a punt returner because he says he
Speaker 1: needs to use late hands as a punt returner because
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to give the gunners who are coming
Speaker 1: to try to lay him out the timing of when
Speaker 1: the ball is actually going to arrive, because they're reading
Speaker 1: that as well. So he's waiting for the ball to
Speaker 1: come down and then the hands come out at the
Speaker 1: last second. Um, excuse me, I'm losing my voice a
Speaker 1: little bit here, But I found that I found that
Speaker 1: somewhat fascinating in a way. I hadn't even thought of that,
Speaker 1: that whole late hands technique being used as a return
Speaker 1: man on special teams, because you know, that's one of
Speaker 1: the most fearless jobs out there on the field, is
Speaker 1: is punt returner. And he he kind of joked about
Speaker 1: it about, you know, not wanting those gunners to to
Speaker 1: smack him around, but it's the reality of what he
Speaker 1: has to face, and he's developed that technique and he
Speaker 1: uses it both as a receiver and a return That
Speaker 1: was the fun part of that conversation was that you
Speaker 1: hear Davante Adams talk about all the time, and that's
Speaker 1: a technique situation that's to be able to execute a
Speaker 1: play to catch a pass. Trevor Davis is using that
Speaker 1: to keep gunners from laying him out. As you said,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a survival instinct. So think about how
Speaker 1: you can incorporate that into the passing game when it's more.
Speaker 1: I don't want to call it a benefit or extra credit,
Speaker 1: but it's a technique that you can use to have
Speaker 1: a successful offensive play rather than just protecting yourself from
Speaker 1: a potential hit. Uh. The other thing I want to
Speaker 1: ask you too, because someone asked me an inbox. You know,
Speaker 1: last year we talked so much about Grono Allison's catch
Speaker 1: from Aaron Rodgers, the no look pass. Somebody put me
Speaker 1: on the spot and asked, what do you think is that?
Speaker 1: Maybe not that type of play, but what what sticks
Speaker 1: with you the most when you think about, you know,
Speaker 1: the big play this year's camp. I'm definitely going to
Speaker 1: be a victim of recency bias here, but the boil
Speaker 1: to Davis catches up there. I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: the one, but when you take into account the double coverage,
Speaker 1: the technique he had to use to pull that in,
Speaker 1: and then also the presence of mind to catch the ball.
Speaker 1: You see guys tied together three or four of those elements,
Speaker 1: but then they don't bring in the football. You just
Speaker 1: move on to the next plane. Every one kind of
Speaker 1: forgets about it. Davis completed the catch. He did that
Speaker 1: after coming back from the stinger. Honestly, those are the
Speaker 1: type of things that I think the coaching staff. I
Speaker 1: don't want to speak for them, but you want to
Speaker 1: see from a guy that's been out for two weeks,
Speaker 1: and you know, maybe you want to prove that what
Speaker 1: he did the first week or so it wasn't a fluke. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean Matt Lafleur called Monday's practice for Trevor Davis
Speaker 1: very encouraging, was the word that he used, and then
Speaker 1: and then flat out said I'm excited to see what
Speaker 1: he's going to do in a game. Well, here we are,
Speaker 1: this game coming up against the Raiders, A couple other
Speaker 1: things here with this third preseason game, West, I think
Speaker 1: we're going to finally get to the end of this
Speaker 1: competition at left guard between Lane Taylor and rookie second
Speaker 1: round pick Elton Jenkins. I think you and I both know,
Speaker 1: having been on the beat, we know how to watch
Speaker 1: practice that when the Packers returned to the practice field
Speaker 1: on Sunday. The first snap that the number one offensive
Speaker 1: line is on the field, I think that's going to
Speaker 1: tell us who won the competition, because we're heading into
Speaker 1: the fourth week of the preseason and we know the
Speaker 1: preseason playing time in the game against the Chiefs will
Speaker 1: be very different. So I think the competition ends with
Speaker 1: this Raiders game. So far, Lane Taylor, for the vast
Speaker 1: majority of the time has been the first, has taken
Speaker 1: the first reps at left guard. But there's been no
Speaker 1: winner declared in this competition yet. So do you see
Speaker 1: that the same way in that this is sort of
Speaker 1: where the competition ends and the decision is going to
Speaker 1: be made over the weekend. I would traditionally agree with
Speaker 1: you on that. This year, I'm going to disagree with
Speaker 1: you only because of what happened last year, which is
Speaker 1: where Justin McCray started at right guard because Brian Bulaga
Speaker 1: was coming back from the a c L. They wanted
Speaker 1: blogging to have those reps, so they played in that
Speaker 1: last game against the Chiefs. I forgot about that. So
Speaker 1: I think it's possible, based on how they've divvied up
Speaker 1: those reps in the snaps that Taylor has taken with
Speaker 1: the two's at times. I think it's entirely in the
Speaker 1: fact that he actually started the first game against Houston
Speaker 1: when none of the other starting offensive line played. I
Speaker 1: think it is possible that it leaks into next week.
Speaker 1: That being said, I would be very curious if it
Speaker 1: still ends up being Taylor. But if they play a
Speaker 1: second series, then you see Jenkins comes in. I could
Speaker 1: see that being a situation. But to your original point,
Speaker 1: the underlying message there, I do believe you kind of
Speaker 1: have to figure out which way you want to go
Speaker 1: with this thing. Though it's great that Jenkins is getting
Speaker 1: those snaps, but Lane Taylor, now, uh, you know, when
Speaker 1: you look at what he's brought to that position, the
Speaker 1: comfort level he's had with David back tr two guys
Speaker 1: that came into the league together in two Thousan. Jenkins
Speaker 1: is a young guy, He's very athletic, but Taylor also
Speaker 1: gives you some of those intangibles that you look for
Speaker 1: when you talk about solidifying your offensive line. The encouraging
Speaker 1: thing for me with Jenkins is I thought he's shined
Speaker 1: throughout the preseason, whether it's been at the guard position,
Speaker 1: whether it's been rotating in its center. He did have
Speaker 1: a couple holding calls last week, one of which one
Speaker 1: of one one of which Matt Floor said wasn't even
Speaker 1: on him, it was, you know, on a different player.
Speaker 1: I just I'm really encouraged by it. I guess we're
Speaker 1: gonna have to wait and see. It will tell you
Speaker 1: something though. If it is obviously still Lane Taylor going
Speaker 1: out there first on Thursday night, He's still the incumbent,
Speaker 1: right the burden of proof is on Jenkins to show
Speaker 1: that he's worthy of being a starter right off the bat. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and as we know, the competition at backup quarterback between
Speaker 1: Deshaun Kaiser, Tim Boyle Manny Wilkins the number four right now,
Speaker 1: that will be continuing, uh, certainly through um these last
Speaker 1: two preseason games, not just the Raiders game. But where
Speaker 1: do you see this competition right now? I see it
Speaker 1: all neck and neck. Yeah, I think I think it
Speaker 1: obviously is Kaiser and Boyle. There's just so much more
Speaker 1: experience there with those two guys. Uh. And certainly Kaiser
Speaker 1: got off to kind of a slow start last week,
Speaker 1: but then kind of rally the troops a little bit.
Speaker 1: I think Boyle that the thing about Boile watching him
Speaker 1: play so far throughout this preseason, is he has moments
Speaker 1: of just you know, sheer an utter excellence. I mean
Speaker 1: downfield passes that are on the money, big play potential
Speaker 1: that every NFL team covets in a quarterback. He needs
Speaker 1: to string it together, though, he needs to be able
Speaker 1: to do that on a more consistent basis, And he'll
Speaker 1: be the first one to tell you that. From Kaiser's perspective,
Speaker 1: I think it's being able to immerse himself in this scheme,
Speaker 1: play within the scheme, but still be Deshaun Kaiser, be
Speaker 1: the guy that was the second round pick, Be the
Speaker 1: guy that does have natural instincts to make a play.
Speaker 1: This is going to be such an important game because
Speaker 1: we don't know whether or not Aaron Rodgers goes. If
Speaker 1: he doesn't go, Kaiser is probably gonna be out there
Speaker 1: with the ones. Again, what can you do with that
Speaker 1: opportunity to prove that, you know what, I can run
Speaker 1: this offense. I can be there with Davante Adams. Adams
Speaker 1: said it this week. When Rodgers isn't on the field,
Speaker 1: their goal is to make sure it's as if he's
Speaker 1: never left, that they can still run with the same
Speaker 1: amount of efficiency. That's the task for Kaiser and then
Speaker 1: behind him whenever Boyle comes into that game proving that
Speaker 1: he has what it takes the potentially be a number two. Yeah. Well,
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Speaker 1: to get to here before we go and head off
Speaker 1: to the airport West. The first preseason game against the
Speaker 1: Houston Texans, defensive coordinator Mike Patton was on the sidelines. Now,
Speaker 1: I will admit I thought, Okay, it's just a preseason thing.
Speaker 1: He's just doing it for the month August and he'll
Speaker 1: be back up in the coach's booth for the regular
Speaker 1: season games. But I was mistaken. That is not the case.
Speaker 1: Mike Patton has decided that the sideline is where he
Speaker 1: is going to be in twenty nineteen, and he spoke
Speaker 1: to reporters and explained some of his thought process some
Speaker 1: of his reasons behind making the switch. Kind of an
Speaker 1: interesting uh um, you know, view into his mind and
Speaker 1: his thought process. Well, first off, I'm gonna give you
Speaker 1: a little bit of a hint. If you're a young
Speaker 1: beat writer coming into Green Bay, the easiest way to
Speaker 1: break news without actually doing anything is to read the
Speaker 1: Dope sheet on whatever day it comes out the Packers
Speaker 1: Information Guy. Packers have actually listed Petton on the sidelines
Speaker 1: since the beginning of camp. I didn't actually put that
Speaker 1: out there right away because it was like, now, what
Speaker 1: is that worth? But you're right, it wasn't for preseason.
Speaker 1: It's something he's planning to do moving forward, and it's funny.
Speaker 1: It actually a part of it kind of has to
Speaker 1: do with lambeau Field in a way. He mentioned, you know,
Speaker 1: Rob Amovsky when we were together at the Green Bay
Speaker 1: Press because that wrote a really nice story talking to
Speaker 1: Joe Philbin's Dom Capers and some of the coaches that
Speaker 1: were up in the press box, the coach's box about
Speaker 1: how difficult it is getting down to the field, and
Speaker 1: it's like that in a lot of NFL stadiums. But
Speaker 1: as Petton illustrated, you leave at the end of the
Speaker 1: half they have an elevator ready for you. You go
Speaker 1: down the elevator, then you get to the catwalk. They
Speaker 1: have golf carts there to take the coaches, probably about
Speaker 1: what a hundred yards or so it might, let's go
Speaker 1: with that. If you drive down that way going as
Speaker 1: fast as a golf cart can go. Then you get
Speaker 1: over to the other elevator. You take that elevator down
Speaker 1: two stairs, and now you're in the lobby. You go
Speaker 1: across the lobby, across the tunnel, you walk down another
Speaker 1: however many feet to the locker room. Then you're there.
Speaker 1: You're there for five ten minutes, and then you've got
Speaker 1: to get back upstairs. It's definitely not ten minutes, because
Speaker 1: halftime is only twelve months long, so unless you leave
Speaker 1: the press box early before the clock actually hit zero.
Speaker 1: And and that was the whole point, is that he
Speaker 1: didn't feel like he had enough time with the players
Speaker 1: in the locker room at halftime, just because of the
Speaker 1: transportation part of it. To make a couple of final adjustments,
Speaker 1: as he said, and also to hear the coaches message
Speaker 1: what Latin Floor Mike McCarthy was saying, and making sure
Speaker 1: that he understands what they need out of him in
Speaker 1: his defense in that second half, so he's going to
Speaker 1: be down in the field. He said, he's actually worked
Speaker 1: with some guys I don't know who they are off hand,
Speaker 1: they are in the dope sheet. That will be sort
Speaker 1: of his eye in the sky this season. He feels
Speaker 1: like he can get the best of both worlds. And
Speaker 1: he mentioned that he kind of felt last year he
Speaker 1: was able to train some of the other defensive assistants
Speaker 1: who were up in the box with him. As far
Speaker 1: as the information that he covets, what he wants, what
Speaker 1: he wants to know, and now that he has those
Speaker 1: coaches looking for that and tracking that information for him,
Speaker 1: they can relay that to him down on the sideline.
Speaker 1: That's what he wants. And so he feels like he,
Speaker 1: you know, gets the best of both worlds, is the
Speaker 1: way he put it. And lastly, just being able to
Speaker 1: actually go talk to the players in between series, sit
Speaker 1: down with guys, move around to different possession groups, the
Speaker 1: interpersonal communication, there's a benefit to it. Pet and feels
Speaker 1: like it will help his defense go to the next level.
Speaker 1: And again, we're gonna see how it all plays out. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: we will definitely see well with that, we will call
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