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Speaker 3: If it's a Lions game.

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Speaker 4: Jamir Gibbs is doing something incredible. Yes, that was the

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Speaker 3: That was Dan Miller on w x y T.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna be hearing a lot from Dan Miller, one

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Speaker 4: He gets those three touchdowns on the ground as part

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Speaker 4: We were so excited, Shooky for a great Thursday night matchup,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And what's crazy is you know, I look at

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Speaker 4: it's Cowboys ball. They're down three, and at some point

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Speaker 2: He was the reason again that they were in this game.

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Speaker 2: I am concerned with about their offensive line, which allowed

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Speaker 2: very unproven. I just think that they are limited without

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Speaker 2: We know that their secondary is not good. I feel

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Speaker 2: Brian Schottenheimer, you know, settling for field goal when his

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's talk about that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, Brandon Aubrey's great, and we're gonna listen

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Speaker 4: to him hitting yet another sixty yarder in just a second.

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Speaker 2: He's the reason they were in this game, by the way,

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Speaker 4: Yes, And he hit a couple long, you know, long ones.

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Speaker 4: He was great. He's not so great that three is

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Speaker 4: better than seven. And with apologies to Patrick Claybon who's

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Speaker 4: this game, we're just bad situational football. So the first

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Speaker 4: it's not a gimme, and he decided to kick the

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Speaker 3: The Cowboys are moving the ball well. And the reason

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Speaker 4: Bad decision was because with over fifty seconds left and

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Speaker 3: And that's exactly what happened.

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Speaker 4: In fact, the Lions had a play to score a

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Speaker 4: Goff missed Isaac Taslaw pretty open on a play down

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Speaker 3: Whereas at the.

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Speaker 4: Very least, you know what Mike Rabel would have done,

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Speaker 4: They take the time out, they saved the thirty seconds,

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Speaker 4: You want to know why the Lions had less total

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Speaker 3: So that's what happened. Again.

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Speaker 4: He basically brought it to midfield two plays later their

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Speaker 4: least give Brandon Aubrey some love. Let's listen, because I've

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Speaker 4: Blue Sky let us know. They were like, you gotta

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Speaker 3: I have not listened to it.

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Speaker 2: Butter sixty three snap kick.

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Speaker 3: On the way. The kick good, it's buttery good.

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Speaker 4: It's sixty three yards good, it's buttery.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what's with that voice. That was Brad Sham.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, got ld. I love how.

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Speaker 4: Kickers are going deep, you know, but it's not all

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Speaker 4: who's now has six sixty plus yard field goals, now

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Speaker 4: No, it was not like, since I'm just saying, in

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Speaker 4: there was a total of six, you know, and Brandon

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because that and that range. Jason Elam was like

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Speaker 3: For well, uh my missing toe.

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Speaker 4: Buddy Tom Dempsey from two lane hit that sixty three

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Speaker 3: That was back in the seventies.

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Speaker 3: What else can we point out in this game? There

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Speaker 4: I I really avoid talking calls on this game.

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Speaker 3: And it's it's not because I work for the NFL.

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Speaker 4: I just find it boring because inn less like a

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Speaker 4: can find calls both ways, and it's like, yeah, there's

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Speaker 4: terrible calls in every game. Like, I just don't know

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Speaker 2: You're right, because I'm thinking now, I'm like, this is

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Speaker 2: The Sunday night game was really bad. Refs getting too involved,

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Speaker 2: what world is that offensive pass interference and then that

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Sometimes I feel like we overlegislate the

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Speaker 2: A lot of them just being self inflicted penalties, not

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Speaker 2: It was just a bad night for the officials overall,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Jake Ferguson had a couple of them. One of them,

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Speaker 4: So there were frustrations. And I want to hear the

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Speaker 3: It's tough.

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Speaker 4: It's tough to beat out JB. Long and MGD our

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Speaker 4: He had the call of the Year last year. Let's

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Speaker 1: I'm and Ron motion right, there's the snap, might be

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Speaker 2: Who was interfered with?

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Speaker 1: What the heck is going on here with these officials tonight,

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Speaker 3: Only sides, right guys.

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Speaker 1: Yes, there were two guys off side and the three

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Speaker 1: guys off sides.

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Speaker 2: One of these officials doing fellas.

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Speaker 3: This is a big game.

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Speaker 2: You're working tonight. Don't work in tonight.

445
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Speaker 3: That's embarrassing. That's awesome.

446
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Speaker 2: We can working tonight.

447
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Speaker 3: We are working tonight.

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Speaker 4: You know what they replayed that though that might have

449
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Speaker 4: been early actually that this that no one was ready

450
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Speaker 4: but the ball moved.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if there were off sides, but it

452
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Speaker 3: should have been a pellanty.

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Speaker 2: I have a back of r I gotta agree, and

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Speaker 2: I well, okay, I think so to a degree. But

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Speaker 2: I also think that we have first off. Pass interference

456
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Speaker 2: needs to be changed from a spot foul to just

457
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Speaker 2: a fifteen yard pal like it is in college football, okay,

458
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Speaker 2: because there's way so many times in football games in

459
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Speaker 2: which passes are just chucked downfield, underthrown, hoping for a

460
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Speaker 2: PI call, and it happens way too often. But what

461
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Speaker 2: it has done, and I hear this on broadcasts now

462
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Speaker 2: and it very much upsets me because it's not it

463
00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,640
Speaker 2: doesn't connect to the true essence of football. Every time

464
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Speaker 2: a ball is thrown up in a one on one

465
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Speaker 2: situation and it's not caught and it's contested, there's a

466
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Speaker 2: pause and then broadcasters will go no flag, or they'll

467
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Speaker 2: wait for a flag to be thrown. This game should

468
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Speaker 2: not be brought down to that. I just have to

469
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Speaker 2: get that ran off right now. They were offside though,

470
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Speaker 2: and they had a very good reason to complain that

471
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Speaker 2: I should have been a free play.

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Speaker 4: Don't get me started on the call on Thursday nights.

473
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Speaker 4: Kirk Curve Street and al are making Thursday night football

474
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Speaker 4: much less enjoyable for me. Just just I need more.

475
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Speaker 4: I need more of everything. I need more excitement, I

476
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Speaker 4: need more analysis. I need just I just need more.

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Speaker 4: I don't think they were recovering.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's less. It's it's less content that's on

479
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Speaker 2: your prep card and more reaction to what's going on

480
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Speaker 2: in the game in front of you, Like that fourth

481
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Speaker 2: down decision to kick the field goal there, like that

482
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Speaker 2: Brian Schottenheimer. Should it, at at minimum you analyze it

483
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Speaker 2: in the moment as opposed to after the field goal

484
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Speaker 2: to kick off in the ensuing possession.

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Speaker 4: Someone tells you on the break, let's end before we

486
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Speaker 4: take a break, and we're gonna get to your QB index.

487
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Speaker 4: Nice little QB segment to wrap up was something more positive.

488
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Speaker 4: Jamir Gibbs with that last touchdown now has as many

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Speaker 4: touchdowns as any player in the history of the NFL

490
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Speaker 4: before turning twenty four years old, tying the great Barry Sanders.

491
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Speaker 4: This is becoming a legendary start to a career for

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Speaker 4: Jamir Gibbs. And by the way, he doesn't turn twenty

493
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Speaker 4: four until this offseason, so he has the rest of

494
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Speaker 4: the season to break it. And he had a play

495
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Speaker 4: that if you're watching, you can watch like see on YouTube.

496
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Speaker 4: And man, I feel like we're gonna be playing this

497
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Speaker 4: for a long time, making port Dron Bland just touch

498
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Speaker 4: the earth, you know, he.

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Speaker 3: Put him in the dirt. I mean it was.

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Speaker 4: And there's another angle of it where where Bland is

501
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Speaker 4: coming at the camera. There it is that's embarrassing, bro.

502
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Speaker 4: And that was on the same drive where he's stiff

503
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Speaker 4: armed Bland into the ground.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you want to see a man's ego and

505
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Speaker 2: confidence crumble right before their eyes. It's when Bland crumpled

506
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Speaker 2: to the turf. There the great Chris Berman used to

507
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Speaker 2: make a sound that I can't replicate. There it is

508
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Speaker 2: thank you.

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Speaker 4: I think actually, right now, Bland, he has to at

510
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Speaker 4: least offer his firstborn child to name him.

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Speaker 2: You gotta name him Jamir. Why am I.

512
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Speaker 3: Why's my name?

513
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Speaker 2: Jamiir Dad? Well, there was this guy who played for

514
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Speaker 2: the Lions who once absolutely destroyed me on primetime television

515
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Speaker 2: when I played football back in the day.

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Speaker 3: Uh, what a player and what a night.

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Speaker 4: I'm really glad that the Lions are gonna be right

518
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Speaker 4: in this mix down the stretch. I'm not ruling out

519
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:59,639
Speaker 4: the Cowboys, but Vikings, Chargers at Commanders at Giants. I

520
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 4: just don't trust this team to get through that gauntlet

521
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:07,159
Speaker 4: without stubbing their toe and home for the Chargers is

522
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,120
Speaker 4: not an easy game whatsoever.

523
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Speaker 3: So we'll see. But I like them.

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Speaker 4: I want them to stay in the mix to at

525
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Speaker 4: least when next Sunday Night is basically gonna be an

526
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Speaker 4: elimination game for them against the Vikings in primetime. They

527
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,959
Speaker 4: did not flex that game out. Well we're gonna get

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Speaker 4: JJ in primetime one more time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a bummer. You know, as I think about

530
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Speaker 2: these Cowboys is before we go to break here, I'm

531
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Speaker 2: conflicted on how to view them right now because and

532
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Speaker 2: this is why I bring this question to you. If

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Speaker 2: you consider all the circumstances that surrounded this team when

534
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Speaker 2: they started the season and the way that they went

535
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Speaker 2: through the off season and the eventual trade of Michael

536
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Speaker 2: Parsons to Green Bay eight eight and one would feel

537
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Speaker 2: kind of like an achievement in Brian shot I know

538
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Speaker 2: Cowboys fans expect more and the standard is higher than that,

539
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Speaker 2: but do you think that that would be considered a

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Speaker 2: relatively successful season in Brian Schoenheimer's first year.

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Speaker 4: I think Brian Schottenheimer could be considered successful ish, But no,

542
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Speaker 4: because it's like the bar is always changing. They're basically

543
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,880
Speaker 4: landing where everyone expected them to be all along. They

544
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Speaker 4: just got there in the most Cowboys way possible.

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Speaker 2: But while claiming that they have Super Bowl ambitions, Okay,

546
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Speaker 2: all right.

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Speaker 4: That's like they still have four more games to change

548
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 4: our minds. It's a big rest of the season to go.

549
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 4: But this was a disappointing day. Matt Eberflus is going

550
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Speaker 4: to get roasted for the next ten days on Dallas

551
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Speaker 4: Sports Talk radio, just like he was early in the season.

552
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Speaker 4: And a disappointing loss to give up a forty burger,

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Speaker 4: Let's take a quick break. We'll be back on the

554
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Speaker 4: other side. Wrap it up with a little quarterback talk.

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Speaker 4: Shookie is the quarterback ranger back on NFL Daily up

556
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Speaker 4: with our favorite time a week and yes it is

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Speaker 4: time for Quarterback Keeper, presented by Snapdragon. This is where

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Speaker 4: we talk about Nick Shook's QB Index. He is the

559
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Speaker 4: man that makes the quarterback rankings at NFL Network and

560
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 4: they have a big graphic that they put up every

561
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Speaker 4: week on social And I used to be the writer

562
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Speaker 4: of QB Index, and so I know Shook that when

563
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 4: this bad boy comes out, it's got Stafford one, May two,

564
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Speaker 4: Dak is third. I don't know if he would go

565
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Speaker 4: up or down off of tonight. I think you'd stay

566
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Speaker 4: about the same. Josh Allen, Patrick, Mahomes, and Herbert all

567
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Speaker 4: unchanged this week in the top six. Love that and

568
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Speaker 4: you wrap up with love Goff and Baker Mayfield and

569
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Speaker 4: then brock Purty all the way up to number ten

570
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Speaker 4: after a nice game that's spicy.

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Speaker 3: How much.

572
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Speaker 4: Like, hey, are you getting each and every week? And

573
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 4: how much is it gonna come from me right now?

574
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Speaker 4: For rank Lamar Jackson number twenty or something?

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Speaker 3: Just preposterous? What's going on?

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Speaker 2: Wait? Give away to the surprise. I actually get a

577
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 2: good amount of hate via Instagram when this is posted

578
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 2: by the Game Day team. It has died down in

579
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 2: recent weeks, which tells me one of two things. Either

580
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 2: people are agreeing with me more or they're just tired

581
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Speaker 2: of it.

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Speaker 4: In general, I think it's more late in the season

583
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Speaker 4: you do see some team's fan bases just die off

584
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 4: a little bit, you know, and so like they're not

585
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Speaker 4: as angry.

586
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Speaker 3: But I am.

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Speaker 4: Let's start with Lamar because every week in this segment,

588
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 4: we're gonna do someone who fell, someone who rose, and

589
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Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson. I couldn't believe this shook is ranked below

590
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Speaker 4: Kirk Cousins on your list. The same list that had

591
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Speaker 4: Rock Purty rise up to the top ten doesn't have

592
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Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson in the top twenty. Please explain yourself.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so people are gonna paint me as he's just

594
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 2: a Lamar hater, He's just a ravens haater. Not true.

595
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Speaker 2: Last year when Josh Allen won the m guess who

596
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 2: was number one at the end of the year on

597
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Speaker 2: my QB Index Lamar Jackson because he deserved to win MVP.

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Speaker 2: Big Lamar fan do not like the version of Lamar

599
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Speaker 2: we're seeing right now. He is nowhere near who he

600
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 2: is at the peak of his powers. Who the Ravens

601
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 2: need him to be to reach their potential, and I

602
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 2: know a lot of it has to deal with the

603
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 2: injuries that he's dealt with with his ankles. Right they're

604
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 2: both spatted up fixed spats every week. But his mobility

605
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 2: is almost gone. He cannot separate from rushers anymore. He

606
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 2: doesn't look confident that he can actually turn that into

607
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 2: a weapon again, and I think it's affecting his entire

608
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 2: process as a quarterback. Now. He still makes some good

609
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 2: throws from time to time, and it didn't affect him

610
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Speaker 2: initially when he came back. I think he had like

611
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 2: a four touchdown game when he first came back. But

612
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 2: in the last few weeks he hasn't thrown a touchdown pass.

613
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 2: This offense has struggled mightily, and he is not the

614
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 2: dynamic threat that we've known him to be. And the

615
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 2: weird thing about this exercise is because we have so

616
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Speaker 2: many guys going in and out of the rankings, these

617
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 2: numbers are they kind of lie to you. Now, Kirk,

618
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Speaker 2: I thought had one of the better games you're gonna

619
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Speaker 2: see from a backup, and that lost to the Jets

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Speaker 2: this week.

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Speaker 3: I was shocked by let's calm down Kirk.

622
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Speaker 2: Given how bad he was the week before, it's all

623
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Speaker 2: relative week by a week.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's what I wanted to get to, Like,

625
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 4: does the first month of Lamar playing like an MVP

626
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 4: matter at all? Because to me, Lamar Jackson could come

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Speaker 4: out and he could have a freaky Friday with Tim

628
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 4: Tebow for the rest of the season, and even that

629
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 4: month would have him ahead of Kirk Cousins for the

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Speaker 4: rest of the season.

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Speaker 3: Give me a break, shooky.

632
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 2: And I can say I'm guilty of recency bias. But

633
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 2: because it's a week by week thing, and because his

634
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 2: last game before he had his extended absence was a

635
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 2: nightmare against the Chiefs, partially due to injury, I feel

636
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 2: like that was such a long time ago that I

637
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 2: cannot really justify on a week by week basis that

638
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 2: he should be ahead of even a guy like Kirk Cousins.

639
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 2: And then other reason that he's down this far is

640
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 2: because we had a number of guys come back from

641
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 2: you know, injury. We had Sieg just Droud come back

642
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 2: from injury, we had Jack and Dart comeback, and we

643
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 2: had Joe Burrow. So that pushes him down three more playss.

644
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 2: I just need one decent competitive game from him, and

645
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 2: he's gonna climb back up. But it's been a very

646
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 2: volatile season for a lot of the household names, and

647
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 2: Lamar is not spared from that.

648
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Speaker 4: He wasn't a total disaster against the Jets. But to

649
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 4: back you up, even though I think this is harsh

650
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 4: on PFF, which I don't hate their QB scoring, I

651
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 4: kind of get what they're what they're doing, giving positives,

652
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 4: giving negatives.

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Speaker 3: For each each play.

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Speaker 4: It usually does grade out like in a way that

655
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 4: makes sense to me, even even if you disagree with them.

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00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 4: They have multiple people watching each and every play like

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00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 4: that's a useful thing to happen. Like the last two years,

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00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 4: he's been the highest quarterback he's been in the nineties,

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Speaker 4: ninety four whatever over the last six games, and that's

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Speaker 4: going all the way back to that Chiefs game you're

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Speaker 4: talking about. He has three games in the forties, which is,

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Speaker 4: you know, worst quarterback in the league territory. I think

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Speaker 4: that's harsh and everything what I'm talking about it I

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Speaker 4: would I would guess if you went through his last

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Speaker 4: five years, you might not find three other games in

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Speaker 4: the forties.

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Speaker 2: And the other game the fifties, he's gonna throw three

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Speaker 2: picks and it wouldn't have been in the fifties.

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Speaker 3: I still think it's too much.

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Speaker 4: I think at some point, Shook, you got to just

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Speaker 4: look and you when you're writing down Lamar Jackson and

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Speaker 4: then you're looking above him and you're seeing the name

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Speaker 4: Kirk Cousins, and uh, I know, you just gotta just

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Speaker 4: gotta do it's right, and not.

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Speaker 2: That I'm taking You know what, when I when I

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Speaker 2: get to the process, when I start ranking them, there's

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Speaker 2: a lot of movement. I'll start writing it, you know what,

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Speaker 2: that actually doesn't make sense. Five minutes later, I swap

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Speaker 2: a couple of guys here and there. This one. It

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Speaker 2: was when I put Lamar down there, I was like, God,

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Speaker 2: that's really tough. But I have no way to vouch

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Speaker 2: like to justify that he should be ahead of any

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Speaker 2: of these guys that are now.

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Speaker 4: I would I would give a little more weight to

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Speaker 4: the first three weeks because even those three weeks, that's

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Speaker 4: just better than any of these guys at the bottom

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Speaker 4: have ever done.

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Speaker 2: That's fair, but it's also sample size. Think about that too.

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Speaker 3: That's fair. Okay, let's talk positive.

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Speaker 4: Give me a quarterback that went up in the rankings

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Speaker 4: that you liked watching this week.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so I said this is a volatile exercise. No

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Speaker 2: quarterback in the NFL has had a more volatile season

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Speaker 2: than Bryce Young.

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Speaker 3: Greg.

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Speaker 2: We just watched him play the Niners and look completely overmatched,

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Speaker 2: as if he couldn't make decisions on time, He couldn't

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Speaker 2: throw accurate passes, he couldn't maybe even see over the

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Speaker 2: offensive line. He didn't look confident. It was ugly. The

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Speaker 2: week before that he torched the Falcons. The week after

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Speaker 2: that he lights it up again. I don't know who

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Speaker 2: he is from week to week. He's making throws on

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Speaker 2: third and fourth down in tight windows, in big spots

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Speaker 2: like it's nothing. Incredible accuracy, incredible clutch gene. He threw

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Speaker 2: two passes of thirty plus yards for touchdowns on fourth

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Speaker 2: down in this win over the Rams. And it's not

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Speaker 2: the credit that the fact that he was you know,

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Speaker 2: he led the Panthers to the win over the Rams, necessarily,

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Speaker 2: it's how he played in the biggest spots. He looked

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Speaker 2: so composed, and it just blows my mind that he

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Speaker 2: can look so different from one week to the next.

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Speaker 2: But this week he was excellent, and he was a

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Speaker 2: big reason why the Panthers got that upset victory.

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Speaker 3: Totally agree.

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Speaker 4: It was a composed perfect game where it's mostly short

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Speaker 4: stuff against the Rams, but then on fourth down when

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Speaker 4: they went big play hunting, he hit those big plays.

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Speaker 4: And that's the thing about Bryce Young. He's a strange

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Speaker 4: evaluation because his great throws are really great. It's not

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Speaker 4: like he's a quarterback that you watch and you don't

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Speaker 4: think is talented, like he has next level you know,

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Speaker 4: the way he sees the game and some of the

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Speaker 4: just hootspa that he can put on some of those shorts.

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Speaker 4: But then you can have other games like two of

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Speaker 4: the last four are the forty nine Ers game and

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Speaker 4: the Saints game, which were just brutal, brutal, and so

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Speaker 4: that's why it's tough when you're ranking them.

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Speaker 3: If I was your editor, you know, I'm a jerk here, I.

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Speaker 4: Would be like, you got to average it out a

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Speaker 4: little bit, you know, don't go so much, you know

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Speaker 4: for week to week. You kind of gotta look at

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Speaker 4: the big picture, and when you add that all up,

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Speaker 4: you want a quarterback that is more consistent. So to me, overall,

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Speaker 4: it's it's been a little below average this season. But

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Speaker 4: to your point, trending up after an excellent game and

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Speaker 4: excellent two out of three games, it's just that that

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Speaker 4: garbage game in the middle.

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Speaker 2: This will, I think give proper context to his current standing.

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Speaker 2: He climbed twelve spots, by the.

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Speaker 3: Way, So that's how can someone climb twelve spots this late?

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Speaker 2: Because there's a lot of movement around him. But consider

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Speaker 2: the guys he's he's sandwiched by right now, Trevor Lawrence, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and Caleb Williams. Yeah, that sounds about right right.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Caleb has had had had his issues, and so

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Speaker 4: I get why they're in the same area. Have Caleb ahead,

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Speaker 4: certainly in my mind, Trevor and him are occupying kind

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Speaker 4: of the same space in the in the sphere.

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Speaker 3: Maybe your editors are just like afraid of you because.

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Speaker 4: Of I'm two thousand miles away. I know, but just

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Speaker 4: take a five hour flight to pose any threat an

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Speaker 4: imposing figure. Maybe that's it they're just saying.

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Speaker 2: Or maybe it's just a big workload, or you know what,

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Speaker 2: we'll go with it.

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Speaker 4: Maybe it is an enormous workload. You put a lot

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Speaker 4: of work into it, and I kid here, but no

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Speaker 4: one does a better job breaking it all down. Maybe

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Speaker 4: they know also it's good for business to see the rankings.

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Speaker 4: They would get it, you know, they would get on

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Speaker 4: me back in the day. I'm like, it's fifteen weeks,

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Speaker 4: nothing really changed in the top ten, you know, And

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Speaker 4: they're like, it's boring if you just rerun the same right,

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Speaker 4: And you.

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Speaker 2: Know what, I was probably a little more static with

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Speaker 2: my rankings in previous season than I have been this year.

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Speaker 2: But I think this year has been one of those

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Speaker 2: wild years where there's been so much fluctuation that it's justified.

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Speaker 2: And the inverse of that, on the flip side, is

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Speaker 2: the fact that, as we showed in the top ten,

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Speaker 2: the first six guys didn't move. Yes, when I looked

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Speaker 2: at all their performances, I thought, Dafford's still number one.

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Speaker 2: May is closer than ever to him, but he's still

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Speaker 2: number two. Dak had a good game on Thanksgiving. Josh

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Speaker 2: Allen had a great game, but I can't justify moving

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Speaker 2: him ahead of Dak right now. And the same is

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Speaker 2: true for Mahoes and Herbert. Like, there's two sides to

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Speaker 2: this whole process, but it makes for a lot of

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Speaker 2: fun debate and some occasionally angry personal attacks to me

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Speaker 2: via direct message, but that comes with the territory.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I apologize for that, but I do think you

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Speaker 4: have Baker Mayfield too high, so I just had to

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Speaker 4: come after you pretty hard.

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Speaker 2: He was I think he was out of the top

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Speaker 2: ten last week.

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Speaker 3: Debbie Heathy should be.

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Speaker 4: That was Quarterback Keeper by the Way, presented by Snapdragon.

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Speaker 4: Learn more at snapdragon dot com slash laptops. All right,

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Speaker 4: let's get out of here, Shook. We'll be back in

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Speaker 4: the feed. Thank you for all that you do. We

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Speaker 4: will have it Shook on covering the Big Bills Bengals

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Speaker 4: game on Sunday night on the Recap Show. I can't wait.

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Speaker 4: But before that, we're going to see if the greatest

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Speaker 4: streaking sports can continue. Can I get the ten straight

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Speaker 4: winning weeks? Picking against the Number with Cynthia Freeland. That

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Speaker 4: show will be in the feed on Friday.

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Speaker 3: We will see that

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Speaker 2: Y