WEBVTT - Field Of Dreams Got THIS Wrong, According To Tim Kurkjian

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to another edition of Is This a Great Game?

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<v Speaker 2>Or What?

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<v Speaker 1>With the Hall of Famer Tim Kirkchen. I'm his son,

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Kirkchhin, Dad, good to see you, and today is

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<v Speaker 1>one of my most exciting days of the baseball season.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the Field of Dreams game. This is exciting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I wish I was heir Jeby. I've never

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<v Speaker 2>been to Dyersville. It is my never been there. It's

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<v Speaker 2>my favorite movie. It's my favorite movie of all time,

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<v Speaker 2>and I've never been. This is embarrassing, but I've never

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<v Speaker 2>been assigned it and I've just never found the times.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's a shame because I love that movie. I've

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<v Speaker 2>seen it a hundred times. It's about a father and

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<v Speaker 2>a son. I took my dad, your grandfather, to see

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<v Speaker 2>it and we both cried out loud. It was absolutely fabulous.

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<v Speaker 2>It was so good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Dad, it's my all time favorite movie. It's my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite baseball movie, obviously, and it's such a special day.

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<v Speaker 1>And this year the team I call mine, the Phillies,

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<v Speaker 1>are playing in it, so it's really special. I mean nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing will beat the very first game they did their

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<v Speaker 1>nationally televised I mean, chills up and down. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin Costner, it was just incredible, so powerful. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really looking forward to taking some time to sit down

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<v Speaker 1>and watch this and taking some baseball in a way

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<v Speaker 1>that I mean, really only the movies could show. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's magical.

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<v Speaker 2>Then, and just to show you how magical, I got

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<v Speaker 2>a text message from our dear friend Eduardo Perez in

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<v Speaker 2>like the middle of the night the other night. Is

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<v Speaker 2>it have a catch or play catch? That was the

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<v Speaker 2>question he asked me, which I've been asked multiple times,

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<v Speaker 2>just not from Eduardo in the middle of the night,

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<v Speaker 2>So there's no wrong answer here. But if you're asking

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<v Speaker 2>me you play catch, you don't have a catch?

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<v Speaker 1>I would agree you want to play catch?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's go play catch.

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<v Speaker 1>That one of the most lines of all time, feel

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<v Speaker 1>to dreams, Hey, dad, want to have a catch?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? And I think I think the story is that

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<v Speaker 2>Kevin Costner said to everyone, I'm not going to say that,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not what you would say in that situation. You

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<v Speaker 2>would say, do you want to play catch? But they

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<v Speaker 2>insisted and he said it, and he pulled it off

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<v Speaker 2>and it was great. And I was deep in tears

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<v Speaker 2>by that point. Okay, because when he's standing out there

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, shoeless. Joe looks at him and goes, no, Ray,

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<v Speaker 2>it was you. That was it for me, Jeff. Whenever

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<v Speaker 2>I get a little bit down, that's what I watch,

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<v Speaker 2>and that little scene there is my favorite.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let's get it clear. I mean, if you were

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<v Speaker 1>talking the ghost of your father, you would probably stumble

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<v Speaker 1>on your words too and maybe not get the right

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<v Speaker 1>saying out. So let's give him a little bit of respect.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we'll just have to get Kevin Costner on the

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<v Speaker 1>show in order to figure all this out. He would

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<v Speaker 1>be a great guest, big baseball fan, start in a

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<v Speaker 1>number of amazing baseball movies. So want to get him on.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this a great game or what?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think that stuff? You'll be booking that one. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll start. You have a way better shot than I do.

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<v Speaker 2>And Jeff, we've said this before. The reason that movie

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<v Speaker 2>was so great and Kevin Costner is so good in

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<v Speaker 2>Bull Durham, this movie and any other baseball movie is

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<v Speaker 2>he's a baseball player, right. He can swing the bat

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<v Speaker 2>from both sides of the plate, He's got a really

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<v Speaker 2>good throwing arm, he looks athletic, he looks because he

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<v Speaker 2>is a baseball player. And this is as the biggest

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<v Speaker 2>snob in the world me when it comes to baseball movies,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're gonna have a player starring in a baseball movie,

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<v Speaker 2>the number one prerequisite is not whether he can act

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<v Speaker 2>or not, is whether he can play or not. And

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<v Speaker 2>Kevin cost is a great actor, but just as important looked.

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<v Speaker 2>He looked like a real baseball player in Field of Dreams,

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<v Speaker 2>Bull Durham and everything else he's been in.

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<v Speaker 1>Agreed, Yeah, I think it's so important to have athletes

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<v Speaker 1>or athletic looking people playing the leads in this. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know who comes to mind to me is the rookie, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Dennis Quaid is incredible because he had to

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<v Speaker 1>learn how to throw and pitch with a different hand.

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<v Speaker 1>How incredible is that? And he looks good doing it?

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<v Speaker 2>Right, That was amazing because you know, I've said it

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<v Speaker 2>a million times. If I start, I could dribble a

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<v Speaker 2>basketball and shoot a basketball with my left hand, because

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<v Speaker 2>I've practiced it so many times. But that's the only

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<v Speaker 2>thing I can do with my left hand. And for

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<v Speaker 2>someone to change a throwing motion that late is just

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<v Speaker 2>just amazing, incredible. So that's all. And speaking of incredible, Jeff,

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<v Speaker 2>we have to bring this up. This is more than

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<v Speaker 2>a takeaway that play. The other night in the ter

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<v Speaker 2>Red Sox game. We have Jason Stark as our next guest.

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<v Speaker 2>He's going to be on on Tuesday, and the entire

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<v Speaker 2>interview with him, Jeff, we've already taped. It was just

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<v Speaker 2>how crazy the game is and every night you go

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<v Speaker 2>to the ballpark you might see something you've never seen before.

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<v Speaker 2>I have never seen anything quite like that situation. Let

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<v Speaker 2>me quickly set it up for you. First and third,

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<v Speaker 2>one out, routine fly ball to the center fielder. The

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<v Speaker 2>runner around first forgets how many outs are runs the second,

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<v Speaker 2>the runner around third doesn't know how many outs are

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<v Speaker 2>He runs home the ball. Brett Bateman, the center fielder.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure he knew how many outs there were

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<v Speaker 2>because he caught it and just kind of lobbed it

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<v Speaker 2>into the infield. I'm not sure who on the field

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<v Speaker 2>knew how many outs there were. But the bottom line

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<v Speaker 2>is they got a double play at first base to

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<v Speaker 2>end the inning. But because the runner on third scored

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<v Speaker 2>before the third out was made at first, that run

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<v Speaker 2>counts even though the runner on third did not tag

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<v Speaker 2>up on that play, and since both teams left the field,

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<v Speaker 2>the way it was explained was the Blue Jays abandoned

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<v Speaker 2>the right to have a you know, an appeal play

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<v Speaker 2>at third because they'd all already left the field. I mean, Jeff,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry. You know how I feel about base running

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<v Speaker 2>in the major leagues and how our players today are bigger, stronger,

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<v Speaker 2>faster and better than ever, but they don't know how

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<v Speaker 2>to play as well as they should. And that was

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<v Speaker 2>amazing to me that nobody on the field knew what

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<v Speaker 2>to do. Let me, let me tell you what would

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<v Speaker 2>have happened if cal Ripken just to mention almost most

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<v Speaker 2>the shortstop on that play, he would have been screaming

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<v Speaker 2>to the center fielder, throw it to third, or throw

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<v Speaker 2>it to me, and I'll throw it to third, because

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<v Speaker 2>all you have to do is throw the ball to third.

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<v Speaker 2>There tag the base, and the run around third is out.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a double play and the run does not count.

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<v Speaker 2>But nobody knew where to throw the ball, am I

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<v Speaker 2>am I being a little too critical here, Jeff that

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<v Speaker 2>how in the world can major league baseball players not

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<v Speaker 2>know the situation? I granted it was confusing, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>not confusing if you just throw the ball to third

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<v Speaker 2>and the third out is made. Am I right or wrong?

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<v Speaker 1>Now, Dad, You're definitely right. The emphasis on the rules

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<v Speaker 1>of the game and the fundamentals, if you will, and

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<v Speaker 1>the mental side of the game has definitely fallen a

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<v Speaker 1>bit short as of late. We've seen it all of

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<v Speaker 1>the time. I mean, we see it when Aaron Boone.

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<v Speaker 1>You told us that Aaron Boone told his team to

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<v Speaker 1>occasionally drop an infield fly because you never know what

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<v Speaker 1>the runners are gonna do. They could think that they

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<v Speaker 1>have to move to the next base you get an out,

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<v Speaker 1>and then all of a sudden it happened to his team.

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<v Speaker 1>The other team dropped the bombits running.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm opening day off. It happened to him, and we

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<v Speaker 2>were doing the game. Rabbi Eduardo and I were doing

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<v Speaker 2>that game on TV remotely, by the way, and the

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<v Speaker 2>next day Aaron Boone called me on the phone to

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<v Speaker 2>apologize to me. I'm not sure why, just because he

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<v Speaker 2>was so embarrassed that his own team did not know

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<v Speaker 2>the rules of the infield fly rule. But in this case,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, people were confused. How many outs were Jeff,

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<v Speaker 2>and I know it, said on the scoreboard there are

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<v Speaker 2>there were two outs. But the lesson that has to

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<v Speaker 2>be learned here because it's nobody should be looking at

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<v Speaker 2>the scoreboard. No player should be looking at the scoreboard

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<v Speaker 2>to see how many outs are, because you should know

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<v Speaker 2>how many outs there are without looking at the scoreboard.

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<v Speaker 2>Am I right about that?

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<v Speaker 1>That feels like a Little League issue when somebody's little

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<v Speaker 1>brother is running the scoreboard and forgets to add how

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<v Speaker 1>many outs there are, and then the center fielder whose

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<v Speaker 1>glove is sitting on top of his head because he's

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<v Speaker 1>so bored and he's picking flowers in center field all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden makes a mistake that seems like a

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<v Speaker 1>twelve year old problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, all right, Well that just something. It's a little late, Jet,

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<v Speaker 2>but I have to weigh in on this because I've

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<v Speaker 2>just never really seen that before. And that was amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>even when nobody knows how what he else there are right.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, dad, let's jump into the takeaways across Major

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<v Speaker 1>League Baseball. What do you have?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Jacob Wilson is the shortstop for the Athletics, and

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<v Speaker 2>he is the son of Jack Wilson, who's one of

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<v Speaker 2>the better defensive shortstops that I've ever seen. Jack Wilson

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<v Speaker 2>could really throw on the run. He could he threw

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<v Speaker 2>from all angles, and he was a really good defensive shortstop.

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<v Speaker 2>And his son just broke the record for most consecutive

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<v Speaker 2>games one hundred and eleven played without an error at shortstop.

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<v Speaker 2>Jow one hundred and eleven. This is This is not

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<v Speaker 2>playing center field or right field where you catch a

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<v Speaker 2>few fly balls with all due respect, this is the shortstop.

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Bordick, one of our all time favorites, held the

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<v Speaker 2>record with one hundred and ten, and just Jacob Wilson

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<v Speaker 2>to one eleven and now one twelve at this taping,

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<v Speaker 2>which is incredible. So and just for a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of context, CJ. Abrams, who plays for the Nationals and

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, has ninety one RBIs at this taping

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<v Speaker 2>ninety one for a shortstop. So let's make sure everyone

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<v Speaker 2>is clear that CJ. Abrams is a really good player.

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<v Speaker 2>But during the time that Jacob Wilson has no errors. CJ.

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<v Speaker 2>Abrams has thirty two errors in that time. So it

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<v Speaker 2>just gives you an idea how easy it is to

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<v Speaker 2>make an error when you are fielding that many chances

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<v Speaker 2>during the course of a game, and during a stretch

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<v Speaker 2>of one hundred and twelve games.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, you've mentioned a number of times that that

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<v Speaker 1>the skill of the shortstop might make it the hardest.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're the best defensive shortstop in the game, you

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<v Speaker 1>might be the best defensive player in the game given

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<v Speaker 1>the difficulty of the position. So I definitely agree with

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<v Speaker 1>where you're going at.

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<v Speaker 2>That right absolutely. Okay, Well, good for Jacob Wilson. And

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<v Speaker 2>we love defense. It's my favorite part of the game.

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<v Speaker 2>I can watch middle infielders take infield all day because

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<v Speaker 2>the skill required and the athletic nature of our middle

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<v Speaker 2>infielders is just breathtaking to watch. Kind Of on the

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<v Speaker 2>opposite side, I still don't understand this. Cal Raleigh of

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<v Speaker 2>the Mariners who hit sixty homers last year, he hit

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<v Speaker 2>eighth the other day, and sorry, he should be hitting

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<v Speaker 2>eight at this moment. Cal Raleigh is hitting one fifty

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<v Speaker 2>nine again. Just all this is pointing out Jeff, is

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<v Speaker 2>the degree of difficulty of the game, which we do

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<v Speaker 2>all we talk about all the time. So cal Raley

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<v Speaker 2>has not yet qualified for the batting title, okay, but

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<v Speaker 2>he's gonna have enough at bats to qualify for the

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<v Speaker 2>batting title here any day now. And he's hitting one

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<v Speaker 2>fifty nine. The record for the worst batting app by

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<v Speaker 2>a majorly qualifier since nineteen twenty, when the live ball

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<v Speaker 2>era began is one sixty eight by Chris Davis of

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty eighteen Orioles. So cal Raley one year after

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<v Speaker 2>one of the most magical seasons that we've ever seen,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe maybe the greatest season and catcher's ever had, maybe,

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<v Speaker 2>and now he's hitting one fifty nine. How do we

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<v Speaker 2>explain that?

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<v Speaker 1>We can't? Dad, And I mean you can only think

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<v Speaker 1>of it as a sophomore slump. I know it's not,

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<v Speaker 1>trust me. I know it's not his second year in

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<v Speaker 1>the league. But the point is he had such a

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<v Speaker 1>high high and then he comes off of that thinking

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be easy and the pitchers are only

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<v Speaker 1>throwing harder and only getting better. I mean, every team

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<v Speaker 1>has a guy who throws easily over one hundred. Remember

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<v Speaker 1>back in the day when having a guy who hit

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred was like the biggest deal. You had the

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<v Speaker 1>one guy in the league that could do it on

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<v Speaker 1>the regular basis. Now everybody has one.

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<v Speaker 2>Right and nobody throws harder than Jacob miss Rowski, who

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<v Speaker 2>just Jeff recorded his two hundredth strikeout and he did

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<v Speaker 2>it in one hundred and twenty nine and a third innings.

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<v Speaker 2>Think about that for a second, one twenty nine and

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<v Speaker 2>a third, two hundred punchouts, and it's it's not even

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<v Speaker 2>the record for fewest innings pitched before you get to

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<v Speaker 2>two hundred strikeouts. That's why Spencer Strider won twenty three

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<v Speaker 2>and a third in twenty twenty three. That was the

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<v Speaker 2>previous record. Mislerowski is second on that list. But Jeff, again,

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't throw a hundred. He throws one hundred and four.

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<v Speaker 2>He's thrown at a hundred and five, Jeff, it's and

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<v Speaker 2>he throws a million strikes. So kudos again to Jacob Miserowski.

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<v Speaker 2>We haven't seen too many players quite like him and

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff back to back to cal Raleigh for a minute.

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<v Speaker 2>The guy who beat him out for the MVP last

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<v Speaker 2>year was Aaron Judge, and I think rightfully. So I

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<v Speaker 2>thought that cal Raly had a more historic season, a

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<v Speaker 2>more amazing season. But I think Judge had a slightly

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<v Speaker 2>better season and should have won the MVP, which of

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<v Speaker 2>course he did. But and I just saw this note

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<v Speaker 2>from the Elias. In the sixty games that Judge has

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<v Speaker 2>been out, the team has hit too eighteen with a

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<v Speaker 2>two point eighty five on base percentage for a sixty

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<v Speaker 2>game stretch. This is the Yankees, Jeff. Those are the

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<v Speaker 2>two lowest numbers over those sixty games in the major

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<v Speaker 2>leagues this year, during that time, and it just shows

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<v Speaker 2>you how great airon Judge is. And when you take

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<v Speaker 2>a star player out of the lineup, you know things

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<v Speaker 2>are going to you know, you know you're going to struggle.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, this is the lowest on base percentage to

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<v Speaker 2>eighty five for any sixty game period by the Yankees

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<v Speaker 2>since nineteen sixty eight, Jeff. And that was the year

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<v Speaker 2>of the pitcher. You know, when Bob Gibson had a

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<v Speaker 2>one point one to two e and the American League

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<v Speaker 2>batted two thirty three and the Washington Center is my

0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:08.000
<v Speaker 2>team hit two thirteen. Nobody was getting to hit in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen sixty eight. That was the last time that the

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<v Speaker 2>Yankees had a sixty game stretch with a non base

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<v Speaker 2>percentage that low. That was the last year that Mickey

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<v Speaker 2>Mantle played. That's how long ago that was. So I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I say all this because it just shows you how

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<v Speaker 2>good Aaron Judge is. Am I right, he.

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<v Speaker 1>Is, and he makes the people around him better. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's the sign of a really good leader. People are,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, rising up to the Judge all rides. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think he does make a big, big difference on

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<v Speaker 1>that team. And so, I mean, the Yankees struggling second

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<v Speaker 1>half of the year, We're going to see how this goes,

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<v Speaker 1>especially with a Rays team that has been just quietly

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<v Speaker 1>in a week al but just quietly maybe the best

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<v Speaker 1>team in the American League besides the Red Sox as

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<v Speaker 1>of late.

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<v Speaker 2>It's incredible, right and Jeff again, the beauty of baseball,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what we love to talk about here. The Tigers.

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<v Speaker 2>Tigers traded Trek Scooble and Casey Maiz. Arguably they're two

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<v Speaker 2>best pitchers, and here they are making a charge for

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<v Speaker 2>the division, but certainly for the wild Card. They've won

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<v Speaker 2>at this writing, at this taping, eight out of ten

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<v Speaker 2>and three games in a row. They now lead the

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<v Speaker 2>American League in run differential at plus eighty nine. Troy

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<v Speaker 2>Melton has been great nowhere runs in his last twenty innings.

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<v Speaker 2>Jackson Job is back. That guy is really good. He's

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<v Speaker 2>coming back from a major injury. But Jeff, this is

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<v Speaker 2>what the Tigers did two years ago. They kind of

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<v Speaker 2>unloaded at the trade deadline and then they made a

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<v Speaker 2>surge and made the playoffs and then beat the Astros

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<v Speaker 2>in a playoff series. Amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, incredible. And I think it's so important to

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<v Speaker 1>have somebody on your pitching staff that just knows their job.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's Jackson Job. Sorry, I had I know you

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<v Speaker 1>are taking notes during that, but just know your job

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<v Speaker 1>and you'll be just fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Just do your job. That's your job. Yeah, that's right, right,

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<v Speaker 2>that is so good. I'm sorry, Jeff, I'm writing something

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<v Speaker 2>definition of breaking news. I'll get to it at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the Quark Gins.

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<v Speaker 1>In our matching t shirts let's hear the cork gins dad,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you have?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, I love this Cody Clemens, who's not out

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<v Speaker 2>of nowhere. He's been around a while, but he's really

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<v Speaker 2>become a good player for the Twins. He hit his

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<v Speaker 2>twentieth homer the other day, so he is. So he

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<v Speaker 2>and his dad are the only father son duo in

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<v Speaker 2>which the son hit has a twenty homer season and

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<v Speaker 2>the dad has a twenty win season.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>And we talked that Bobby Bobby Wit junior, they had

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen homer fifteen win seasons fer In Law and vance

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<v Speaker 2>Law fifteen and fifteen, but Cody Clemens got twenty. So

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<v Speaker 2>now we've got a father son with a twenty win

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<v Speaker 2>season and a twenty homer season. Pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I always wondered what it would be

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<v Speaker 1>like to have a dad as a pitcher and you

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<v Speaker 1>become because you get to see the other side of

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<v Speaker 1>the game through your dad pitcher. Does that make sense?

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<v Speaker 1>Like when you have a dad catcher son catcher, dad first,

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<v Speaker 1>baseman son first, you're like, okay, dad taught me the position,

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<v Speaker 1>but now they're learning the different side of it. So

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<v Speaker 1>you think, right, there's a mental game to those two

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<v Speaker 1>sons I think that other players don't have.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you agree, Yeah, there is no doubt Cody Clemens

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<v Speaker 2>is a better hitter because his dad is one of

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<v Speaker 2>the greatest pitchers of all time. And you watch your

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<v Speaker 2>dad pitch, you learn how he pitches. He tells you

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<v Speaker 2>what he does in certain situations. And I'm positive Cody

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<v Speaker 2>Clemens goes to the plate and says, well, this is

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<v Speaker 2>what my dad told me about this particular count, this

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<v Speaker 2>particular situation. Look for this and it's helping him and

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<v Speaker 2>he's a good player. Now, absolutely, ok, Jeffrey, back back

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<v Speaker 2>to Jason Stark for a minute. He alerted us to

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<v Speaker 2>this that lazarro Estrata of the Blue Jays. You remember,

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<v Speaker 2>and this will run on Tuesday when we have Jason's interview,

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<v Speaker 2>which was just tremendous. But lazarro Estrada had a win,

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<v Speaker 2>a save, and a loss in consecutive appearances, which came

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<v Speaker 2>on three consecutive days. Now again, jeff these guys are

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<v Speaker 2>only pitching an inning at a time, but it's pretty amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>You get a win, a save, and a loss in

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<v Speaker 2>three straight days, and the last time any pitcher did that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a little surprised it was this recent. Philm Mayton

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<v Speaker 2>did this in twenty twenty three where he had a win, save,

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<v Speaker 2>and a loss all in three consecutive games played on

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<v Speaker 2>three consecutive days. Pretty cool, huh.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I love that, Jason. If you want to

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<v Speaker 1>have the ultimate nerd off, it's Tuesday on. It is

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<v Speaker 1>just a great game or what? Right out of the gate?

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<v Speaker 1>My question is how did both of you get to

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<v Speaker 1>this point of being this beautifully in love with the

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<v Speaker 1>ins and outs and the nerdiness of baseball? And he

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<v Speaker 1>had a great answer. It's so great, Jason Stark, long

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<v Speaker 1>overdue on our podcast. Make sure you hit subscribe and

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. Jeff blake Snell made his return with the Dodgers

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<v Speaker 2>made his second start of the season. Blake Snell has

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<v Speaker 2>incredible stuff. His combination of change up, slider and curveball

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<v Speaker 2>that matchup is virtually unmatched in Major League Baseball. So

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<v Speaker 2>his first game off the disabled list injured list, he

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<v Speaker 2>struck out ten. So he is the sixth different Dodger

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<v Speaker 2>to strike out ten batters in a game. This year.

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<v Speaker 2>Does that sound like a lot to you? Six different guys?

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<v Speaker 1>Again, because you strike out ray four good starters, right,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe five if you're lucky. And so to have six

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<v Speaker 1>guys strike out ten, that's incredible, right.

0:25:20.240 --> 0:25:22.560
<v Speaker 2>So, and again with the way we use our bullpen,

0:25:22.640 --> 0:25:26.199
<v Speaker 2>relievers can get ten strikeouts in a game because they

0:25:26.240 --> 0:25:28.639
<v Speaker 2>don't start the game. They come in and relief and

0:25:28.640 --> 0:25:30.639
<v Speaker 2>they're the you know, we have an opener and then

0:25:30.640 --> 0:25:32.920
<v Speaker 2>we got a guy who throws seven innings after that.

0:25:32.960 --> 0:25:37.639
<v Speaker 2>But it's the fourteenth time, Jeff, that a team in

0:25:37.680 --> 0:25:42.359
<v Speaker 2>baseball history has had six pitchers strikeout ten or more

0:25:42.520 --> 0:25:45.560
<v Speaker 2>in a game in one season. The last teams to

0:25:45.600 --> 0:25:48.960
<v Speaker 2>do it were the Rays and the Rangers in twenty

0:25:49.240 --> 0:25:54.679
<v Speaker 2>twenty three. But only one team has had seven pitchers

0:25:55.119 --> 0:25:58.480
<v Speaker 2>strike out ten or more in a game in one season.

0:25:58.800 --> 0:26:03.800
<v Speaker 2>That was the nineteen to six seven Cleveland then Cleveland Indians.

0:26:04.119 --> 0:26:08.719
<v Speaker 2>Sam McDowell, Louis tian Sonny Seabert, Stan Williams, Ed Connolly Junior,

0:26:09.600 --> 0:26:13.720
<v Speaker 2>Steve Hargan, and John o'donahue. Seven different guys on that

0:26:13.840 --> 0:26:17.879
<v Speaker 2>team struck out ten or more. Guys Pretty amazing. I

0:26:18.000 --> 0:26:21.320
<v Speaker 2>love those names on that list because again Jeff sixty

0:26:21.400 --> 0:26:25.880
<v Speaker 2>seven sixty eight. It's all the same era where nobody

0:26:25.880 --> 0:26:28.480
<v Speaker 2>gets a hit during that time because it's so hard.

0:26:28.560 --> 0:26:32.480
<v Speaker 2>And Louis Tiana we talked about last week, had unbelievable stuff.

0:26:32.680 --> 0:26:36.639
<v Speaker 2>And Sam McDowell was just a strikeout machine in his career.

0:26:36.880 --> 0:26:39.640
<v Speaker 1>Which is interesting because around then you were ten years old,

0:26:39.640 --> 0:26:42.159
<v Speaker 1>born in fifty six, and when I was ten, I

0:26:42.240 --> 0:26:44.959
<v Speaker 1>was in the height of the steroid era. Really, so

0:26:45.640 --> 0:26:49.119
<v Speaker 1>very different experiences you and I had in the game

0:26:49.680 --> 0:26:53.200
<v Speaker 1>when it came to that age of our life, right right.

0:26:53.440 --> 0:26:56.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And Jeff, I was watching a game when I

0:26:56.119 --> 0:27:00.000
<v Speaker 2>was a kid, I was probably ten, and Sam McDowell's

0:27:00.119 --> 0:27:03.800
<v Speaker 2>pitching against the Senators, my team, and he couldn't get

0:27:03.840 --> 0:27:08.760
<v Speaker 2>Frank Howard out, so they took Sam McDowell off the

0:27:08.800 --> 0:27:12.760
<v Speaker 2>mound and put him at second base with two outs

0:27:12.800 --> 0:27:16.119
<v Speaker 2>in the eighth inning. Because when you take a pitcher out,

0:27:16.320 --> 0:27:19.639
<v Speaker 2>you can of course leave him in the game. So

0:27:20.080 --> 0:27:22.280
<v Speaker 2>they got the fire. They got Frank Howard out to

0:27:22.400 --> 0:27:25.560
<v Speaker 2>start the I mean to finish the eighth inning, and

0:27:25.640 --> 0:27:28.800
<v Speaker 2>Sam McDowell came in and pitched the ninth inning and

0:27:29.040 --> 0:27:32.440
<v Speaker 2>finished the game. But the amazing part, and I still

0:27:32.480 --> 0:27:35.840
<v Speaker 2>can't believe this. There was a ground ball hit, There

0:27:35.880 --> 0:27:38.280
<v Speaker 2>was a run around first when they brought Sam McDowell in.

0:27:38.760 --> 0:27:41.080
<v Speaker 2>There was a ground ball to the third baseman, and

0:27:41.160 --> 0:27:43.959
<v Speaker 2>instead of throwing it to first for the third out,

0:27:44.359 --> 0:27:48.080
<v Speaker 2>he threw it to Sam McDowell, a left handed second baseman,

0:27:48.359 --> 0:27:52.800
<v Speaker 2>for the force out at second. I still can't believe

0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:56.560
<v Speaker 2>I saw that that simply would not happen today, Jeff.

0:27:56.840 --> 0:28:00.800
<v Speaker 2>But back then, crazy things like that happened all the time.

0:28:01.040 --> 0:28:03.000
<v Speaker 2>All right, Jeff, I need your help on this. The

0:28:03.160 --> 0:28:06.240
<v Speaker 2>winning and losing pictures, so the pictures of record in

0:28:06.280 --> 0:28:09.760
<v Speaker 2>the Reds Nationals game the other day, or Brady Singer

0:28:09.920 --> 0:28:16.800
<v Speaker 2>and Will Dion, so the it was singer Dion. Does

0:28:16.840 --> 0:28:18.400
<v Speaker 2>that ring a bell at all to you?

0:28:18.760 --> 0:28:19.640
<v Speaker 1>Singer Dion?

0:28:19.840 --> 0:28:20.040
<v Speaker 5>No?

0:28:20.119 --> 0:28:23.040
<v Speaker 2>Not necessarily right now. Now, look, I don't know anything

0:28:23.040 --> 0:28:26.119
<v Speaker 2>about music, Jeff. We've been over this, but I do

0:28:26.280 --> 0:28:28.960
<v Speaker 2>know that Dion and the Belmonts.

0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:31.280
<v Speaker 1>Were a oh yeah, okay, no.

0:28:31.400 --> 0:28:34.320
<v Speaker 2>Singer Dion, right, and I looked it up since I

0:28:34.359 --> 0:28:39.760
<v Speaker 2>have no idea who the Belmonts are, but Dion Demussy

0:28:39.920 --> 0:28:42.080
<v Speaker 2>d I m U C C. I sorry if I

0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:45.040
<v Speaker 2>butchered that name. Join the Belmonts and that's how they

0:28:45.080 --> 0:28:48.760
<v Speaker 2>became Dion and the Belmont. So we had a singer

0:28:48.840 --> 0:28:52.200
<v Speaker 2>Dion or Dion singer. I like that.

0:28:52.200 --> 0:28:53.960
<v Speaker 1>That was a good one, Dad. Anytime you can work

0:28:54.000 --> 0:28:56.280
<v Speaker 1>a music reference and it's impressive for you.

0:28:56.760 --> 0:28:59.760
<v Speaker 2>So this is the breaking news that we have during

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<v Speaker 2>the course.

0:29:00.760 --> 0:29:02.760
<v Speaker 1>No way, I've been waiting for this that.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Our our friend Jeremy Tasha wrote me this morning

0:29:07.560 --> 0:29:10.280
<v Speaker 2>and he he told me something I already kind of knew.

0:29:10.360 --> 0:29:14.280
<v Speaker 2>But he said, in the Padres Brewers game, we have

0:29:14.520 --> 0:29:18.640
<v Speaker 2>Robbie Ray facing Dustin May, so we have a Ray

0:29:19.280 --> 0:29:24.840
<v Speaker 2>against May. So he was at least wondering, have we

0:29:24.920 --> 0:29:28.440
<v Speaker 2>ever had a three name? I'm a three word, three

0:29:28.560 --> 0:29:31.840
<v Speaker 2>letter last name, face a three letter last name, but

0:29:31.960 --> 0:29:35.080
<v Speaker 2>he expanded it to and both of them and in

0:29:35.240 --> 0:29:38.640
<v Speaker 2>a y. Yeah, they rhyme. So I don't know about

0:29:38.640 --> 0:29:42.880
<v Speaker 2>the rhyming part. But I actually checked with Frank for

0:29:43.000 --> 0:29:47.120
<v Speaker 2>the Eliaz Unders just no, just to see how unusual

0:29:47.240 --> 0:29:50.360
<v Speaker 2>this is. Look, I'm I'm pretty sure that Jimmy Key

0:29:50.400 --> 0:29:53.320
<v Speaker 2>faced Rudy May in a start in the eighties. I'm

0:29:53.360 --> 0:29:55.840
<v Speaker 2>pretty sure that I'm not sure, but we'll see. But

0:29:56.040 --> 0:29:59.320
<v Speaker 2>Frank writes back that We've had three of them this year.

0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:05.400
<v Speaker 2>You had three. They're not Ray and May, but Anthony

0:30:05.480 --> 0:30:10.640
<v Speaker 2>K faced Griffin Jacks, Brian Wu faced Shane BoSz, and

0:30:10.800 --> 0:30:13.959
<v Speaker 2>Shane Boz faced Griffin Jacks. So we've had this is

0:30:14.000 --> 0:30:17.000
<v Speaker 2>the fourth time this year that we've had a starting

0:30:17.040 --> 0:30:20.520
<v Speaker 2>pitcher whose last name is three letters face another starting

0:30:20.560 --> 0:30:24.120
<v Speaker 2>pitcher whose last name has three letters that, Jeff, that

0:30:24.200 --> 0:30:28.000
<v Speaker 2>is what you call That's that's our definition on this

0:30:28.160 --> 0:30:31.360
<v Speaker 2>ridiculous podcast to Breaking News Greed.

0:30:31.720 --> 0:30:35.000
<v Speaker 1>So Jeremy Tash, friend of the show and member of

0:30:35.160 --> 0:30:38.920
<v Speaker 1>the Dan Levitard Show, also friends of ours, and I'm

0:30:39.000 --> 0:30:42.520
<v Speaker 1>just really glad to hear that that was something he

0:30:42.640 --> 0:30:45.640
<v Speaker 1>was asking you and not an argument on whether or

0:30:45.720 --> 0:30:50.240
<v Speaker 1>not they could get a bunt down against Garrett Cole.

0:30:50.320 --> 0:30:55.760
<v Speaker 1>Garrett Cole, listen, nobody. These are major league players trying

0:30:55.760 --> 0:30:57.600
<v Speaker 1>to get a butt down from time to time, and

0:30:57.760 --> 0:31:00.640
<v Speaker 1>they can struggle doing it. You're telling telling me you're

0:31:00.680 --> 0:31:04.720
<v Speaker 1>gonna turn your face towards a guy throwing one hundred

0:31:04.760 --> 0:31:08.360
<v Speaker 1>and one miles per hour right at your face, know what.

0:31:09.360 --> 0:31:12.200
<v Speaker 2>Look, we know how much I love the Levatard Show.

0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:14.680
<v Speaker 2>Those guys are all hilarious, but this is at least

0:31:14.680 --> 0:31:17.040
<v Speaker 2>five years ago. They just called me and asked me,

0:31:17.760 --> 0:31:20.000
<v Speaker 2>we all think we can get a bunt down for them,

0:31:20.000 --> 0:31:21.640
<v Speaker 2>And I had to tell him, you guys are the

0:31:21.720 --> 0:31:23.960
<v Speaker 2>stupidest people I've ever met in my life. You have

0:31:24.160 --> 0:31:28.520
<v Speaker 2>zero chance to get a bunt down against Garrett Cole

0:31:28.640 --> 0:31:31.840
<v Speaker 2>in a major league game. You guys are radio show host,

0:31:31.880 --> 0:31:35.240
<v Speaker 2>your podcast host, You're not major league players. I hope

0:31:35.240 --> 0:31:36.400
<v Speaker 2>I didn't hurt their feelings.

0:31:37.000 --> 0:31:38.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't think you did, but I do think you

0:31:38.840 --> 0:31:41.680
<v Speaker 1>put them in their place. And as they know on

0:31:41.720 --> 0:31:43.959
<v Speaker 1>that show, we never like to make Tim Kirkshon angry,

0:31:44.000 --> 0:31:48.120
<v Speaker 1>but when he gets angry, it's the most beautiful calm

0:31:48.280 --> 0:31:57.760
<v Speaker 1>anger I've ever seen in my life. All Right, Dad,

0:31:57.880 --> 0:32:00.640
<v Speaker 1>let's move on to on the state and based history.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. In nineteen seventy nine, lou Brock got hit number

0:32:05.000 --> 0:32:08.320
<v Speaker 2>three thousand. Lou Brock is one of the you know,

0:32:08.320 --> 0:32:11.120
<v Speaker 2>he's a Hall of Famer, the second most stolen bases

0:32:11.160 --> 0:32:13.960
<v Speaker 2>of all time, and Jeff, we talk about among the

0:32:14.040 --> 0:32:17.640
<v Speaker 2>kindest people we've ever met in Baseball stan musical Bookshobinson,

0:32:17.720 --> 0:32:20.360
<v Speaker 2>lou Brock is right near the top of that list.

0:32:20.520 --> 0:32:23.200
<v Speaker 2>And we've told the story many times about when you

0:32:23.240 --> 0:32:26.680
<v Speaker 2>met him in Cooperstown at the golf you know, pro shop,

0:32:26.720 --> 0:32:29.120
<v Speaker 2>and he gave you twenty minutes of his time. It

0:32:29.200 --> 0:32:32.080
<v Speaker 2>was like nothing I've ever seen. And he looked at

0:32:32.120 --> 0:32:34.160
<v Speaker 2>you that day you were like ten years old and said,

0:32:34.200 --> 0:32:37.840
<v Speaker 2>you have a great smile. Always use that smile. Nothing,

0:32:38.120 --> 0:32:41.520
<v Speaker 2>nothing disarms a person more than a smile. You remember

0:32:41.560 --> 0:32:42.400
<v Speaker 2>that day, right, Joe.

0:32:42.480 --> 0:32:44.520
<v Speaker 1>I remember it like it was yesterday and I had

0:32:44.560 --> 0:32:47.000
<v Speaker 1>just gotten off the course after shooting one hundred and twelve.

0:32:48.800 --> 0:32:51.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why I was smiling, No, just kidding.

0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:54.360
<v Speaker 1>I do remember that, dad, and I do think. I

0:32:54.440 --> 0:32:57.239
<v Speaker 1>think about that always as I was growing up. You know,

0:32:57.280 --> 0:32:59.480
<v Speaker 1>it's such a great way to introduce yourself as to

0:32:59.480 --> 0:33:02.640
<v Speaker 1>put a bigs on, and it's disarming in a beautiful way.

0:33:02.680 --> 0:33:05.240
<v Speaker 1>It makes others feel comfortable. So I'll never forget that.

0:33:05.520 --> 0:33:08.160
<v Speaker 2>All right, Jeff. On this day in nineteen forty, Tony

0:33:08.360 --> 0:33:11.600
<v Speaker 2>Klooninger was born. He was a very good pitcher, and

0:33:11.640 --> 0:33:15.680
<v Speaker 2>in nineteen sixty six he became the first National League

0:33:15.720 --> 0:33:18.840
<v Speaker 2>player to hit two Grand Slams in one game, and

0:33:18.880 --> 0:33:22.520
<v Speaker 2>to this day he remains, of course, the only pitcher

0:33:23.000 --> 0:33:27.160
<v Speaker 2>ever to hit two Grand slams in one game, and Jeff,

0:33:27.240 --> 0:33:31.000
<v Speaker 2>it still just amazed me. A pitcher did that. And

0:33:31.120 --> 0:33:34.560
<v Speaker 2>Pete Rose had one Grand Slam in his career, Derek

0:33:34.640 --> 0:33:37.840
<v Speaker 2>Jeter had one Grand Slam in his career, and so

0:33:37.920 --> 0:33:41.600
<v Speaker 2>they had as many combined with all those bats as

0:33:41.640 --> 0:33:45.440
<v Speaker 2>Tony Klaninger had in one game. Pretty amazing. And Jeff,

0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:49.040
<v Speaker 2>this is why it still bothers me. The pitchers aren't

0:33:49.080 --> 0:33:53.120
<v Speaker 2>allowed to hit because amazing things like what Tony Klininger did.

0:33:53.760 --> 0:33:56.560
<v Speaker 2>We're probably never gonna see anything like that again.

0:33:56.880 --> 0:34:02.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we love Miles Michaelis coming in and pinch hitting.

0:34:02.480 --> 0:34:05.360
<v Speaker 1>We want to say more of it. Let's go, come.

0:34:05.200 --> 0:34:08.279
<v Speaker 2>On, I kind of like it all right. On this date,

0:34:08.360 --> 0:34:11.239
<v Speaker 2>Happy birthday to Mark Lemkey born on this date in

0:34:11.320 --> 0:34:15.680
<v Speaker 2>nineteen sixty five. Really tough, little hard nosed second basement

0:34:15.680 --> 0:34:19.120
<v Speaker 2>from Utica, New York. And Jeff, he still holds the

0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:22.520
<v Speaker 2>Major League record for most played appearances in a career

0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:25.920
<v Speaker 2>three thousand, six hundred and sixty four without ever getting

0:34:26.000 --> 0:34:28.520
<v Speaker 2>hit by a pitch, which and again, he's a switch hitter.

0:34:29.000 --> 0:34:31.960
<v Speaker 2>Switch hitters usually don't get a hurt hit very often.

0:34:32.000 --> 0:34:35.160
<v Speaker 2>Mickey Mannlo we've already mentioned in this podcast. He only

0:34:35.239 --> 0:34:38.400
<v Speaker 2>got hit thirteen times in his career. But Mark Lemkey

0:34:38.560 --> 0:34:41.080
<v Speaker 2>never got hit in his major league career. I want

0:34:41.160 --> 0:34:43.240
<v Speaker 2>to ask him, did you get hit in the minor leagues?

0:34:43.239 --> 0:34:45.160
<v Speaker 2>He goes, yeah, I got hit plenty of times in

0:34:45.200 --> 0:34:47.279
<v Speaker 2>the minor leagues, just not in the major leagues. That

0:34:47.360 --> 0:34:51.400
<v Speaker 2>amazed you, Jeff, that many played appearances no hit by pitches.

0:34:51.800 --> 0:34:53.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, hey, that would be the kind of

0:34:53.600 --> 0:34:55.440
<v Speaker 1>career I would like to have if I ever made

0:34:55.440 --> 0:34:58.000
<v Speaker 1>it to the base. No, thank you want to get

0:34:58.040 --> 0:34:59.200
<v Speaker 1>hit right.

0:34:59.239 --> 0:35:02.040
<v Speaker 2>I just wrote a story for ESPN dot com just

0:35:02.080 --> 0:35:05.600
<v Speaker 2>about how they hit by pitch rate today is historically high.

0:35:05.960 --> 0:35:08.720
<v Speaker 2>Guys are standing on top of the plate, wearing armor,

0:35:08.880 --> 0:35:11.480
<v Speaker 2>pictures throwing one hundred and two, don't know where it's going.

0:35:11.880 --> 0:35:14.440
<v Speaker 2>Leads to this, this guy never got hit by a pitch.

0:35:14.600 --> 0:35:19.160
<v Speaker 2>So cool, all right? Special birthday also nineteen eighty three

0:35:19.719 --> 0:35:23.520
<v Speaker 2>Dallas Braiden. So happy birthday to Dallas Braiden.

0:35:23.719 --> 0:35:24.279
<v Speaker 1>We love him.

0:35:24.320 --> 0:35:27.160
<v Speaker 2>Not too many not too many people have made laugh

0:35:27.320 --> 0:35:30.440
<v Speaker 2>quite like Dallas Braiden. But Jeff, when we had him

0:35:30.480 --> 0:35:33.319
<v Speaker 2>on the podcast, did we laugh for an hour? Is

0:35:33.320 --> 0:35:34.280
<v Speaker 2>that fair to say?

0:35:34.680 --> 0:35:37.319
<v Speaker 1>He is one of my favorite guests we've ever had.

0:35:37.360 --> 0:35:41.840
<v Speaker 1>He told us some crazy stories. Obviously, his incredible Mother's

0:35:41.920 --> 0:35:44.480
<v Speaker 1>Day story was the the reason why we had him on.

0:35:44.640 --> 0:35:47.320
<v Speaker 1>But he told us about his beef with a rod.

0:35:47.400 --> 0:35:51.680
<v Speaker 1>He told us so many about about Reptile World or

0:35:51.680 --> 0:35:53.000
<v Speaker 1>whatever it was, and will.

0:35:52.920 --> 0:35:55.920
<v Speaker 2>You got trapped in Reptile World and they said we'll

0:35:55.920 --> 0:35:57.920
<v Speaker 2>get an uber there in four hours.

0:35:57.960 --> 0:36:00.120
<v Speaker 1>He said, four hours, I gotta go to work.

0:36:00.160 --> 0:36:05.680
<v Speaker 2>It was amazing. And again I think we started that interview, Jeff,

0:36:05.760 --> 0:36:12.120
<v Speaker 2>with my one of my bobblehead collections. There's me, next

0:36:12.160 --> 0:36:15.160
<v Speaker 2>to me is Dallas Braiden, and next to him is

0:36:15.920 --> 0:36:22.919
<v Speaker 2>do you remember Walter Johnson. Obviously yes, so Dallas thought

0:36:22.960 --> 0:36:25.920
<v Speaker 2>that was the greatest juxtaposition ever. The three of us

0:36:26.040 --> 0:36:29.520
<v Speaker 2>lined up and Jeff, what is the distinction? What does

0:36:29.600 --> 0:36:34.239
<v Speaker 2>Dallas Braden have over a perfect Johnson? Yes, every time

0:36:34.239 --> 0:36:36.560
<v Speaker 2>I went to Walter Johnson, Hey, yeah I knew that.

0:36:37.360 --> 0:36:40.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, So, yes, Dallas Braiden threw a perfect game

0:36:40.560 --> 0:36:44.719
<v Speaker 2>and Walter Johnson didn't. And that's just the beauty of baseball.

0:36:45.320 --> 0:36:47.399
<v Speaker 2>And last one, Jeff, and this is a sad one,

0:36:47.440 --> 0:36:50.320
<v Speaker 2>of course, on this date in nineteen ninety five, Mickey

0:36:50.400 --> 0:36:54.640
<v Speaker 2>Mantle died. Now, let's be clear, Jeff, Mickey Mantle is

0:36:54.800 --> 0:36:57.720
<v Speaker 2>one of the greatest players of all time, greatest number

0:36:57.760 --> 0:37:03.240
<v Speaker 2>seven ever, greatest switch hitter ever. And if he hadn't

0:37:03.239 --> 0:37:06.600
<v Speaker 2>gotten some knee issues, there's no telling what he might

0:37:06.600 --> 0:37:09.400
<v Speaker 2>have done, because during the prime of his career five

0:37:09.880 --> 0:37:12.680
<v Speaker 2>maybe a little bit more, he was as good as

0:37:12.800 --> 0:37:15.560
<v Speaker 2>Willie Mays. And Willie May is the greatest player I've

0:37:15.560 --> 0:37:19.480
<v Speaker 2>ever seen. So let's not ever forget how great Mickey

0:37:19.680 --> 0:37:23.239
<v Speaker 2>Mantle was. And I told you, Jeff, I was in

0:37:23.280 --> 0:37:27.440
<v Speaker 2>spring training in the long, long time ago and Mickey

0:37:27.480 --> 0:37:31.200
<v Speaker 2>Manna was doing a bunting drill, showing everyone on the

0:37:31.320 --> 0:37:34.399
<v Speaker 2>Yankees how to drag a bunt to first base, which

0:37:34.400 --> 0:37:36.520
<v Speaker 2>I always thought was like, so cool. Here's a guy

0:37:36.560 --> 0:37:39.840
<v Speaker 2>with well over five hundred homers and he was teaching

0:37:39.960 --> 0:37:43.440
<v Speaker 2>everyone how to drag a bunt left handed down the

0:37:43.480 --> 0:37:45.160
<v Speaker 2>first base line. Pretty cool, right.

0:37:46.000 --> 0:37:49.240
<v Speaker 1>The dragging of the bunt is an art form, absolutely

0:37:49.520 --> 0:37:52.440
<v Speaker 1>to be able to figure that out, it's really a

0:37:52.560 --> 0:37:53.440
<v Speaker 1>difficult skill.

0:37:54.800 --> 0:37:57.040
<v Speaker 2>And Mickey Manner was one of the best at Rod Crew.

0:37:57.120 --> 0:37:59.719
<v Speaker 2>Of course, Brett Butler, those are the among the best

0:37:59.719 --> 0:38:03.400
<v Speaker 2>bunch I've ever seen, so as a tribute to Mickey Mantle,

0:38:03.520 --> 0:38:07.560
<v Speaker 2>we are doing the All Mickey team as Team Tim

0:38:07.680 --> 0:38:11.680
<v Speaker 2>this week. Our catcher is Hall of Famer Mickey Cochran.

0:38:12.360 --> 0:38:16.000
<v Speaker 2>Our first basement is Mickey Vernon, who was really really

0:38:16.000 --> 0:38:21.160
<v Speaker 2>good second baseman former Philly Mickey Morindini, Jeff, do you

0:38:21.239 --> 0:38:24.480
<v Speaker 2>know his distinction beyond being a really good player and

0:38:24.520 --> 0:38:27.120
<v Speaker 2>the tough guys you'll ever meet, and one of the

0:38:27.200 --> 0:38:30.200
<v Speaker 2>key guys on a Pennant winning team for the Phillies.

0:38:30.480 --> 0:38:33.160
<v Speaker 2>He had an unassisted triple play.

0:38:33.239 --> 0:38:34.280
<v Speaker 1>He's in the Hall of Fame.

0:38:34.360 --> 0:38:39.000
<v Speaker 2>That's right, That's right, Mickey MORENDI and he unassisted triple play.

0:38:39.160 --> 0:38:43.040
<v Speaker 2>Is the second baseman. Mickey Klutz is our third baseman.

0:38:43.200 --> 0:38:47.640
<v Speaker 2>And it's spelled k l u t ts. But and

0:38:48.239 --> 0:38:50.200
<v Speaker 2>I hope I'm not making fun of anyone, because that's

0:38:50.200 --> 0:38:53.680
<v Speaker 2>not the point. Mickey Klutz got hurt all the time, okay.

0:38:54.280 --> 0:38:56.840
<v Speaker 2>And I always thought it was kind of interesting that

0:38:56.880 --> 0:38:58.680
<v Speaker 2>a guy who spent a lot of time on the

0:38:58.719 --> 0:39:01.920
<v Speaker 2>injured list, the disabled list whatever we called it is,

0:39:02.160 --> 0:39:03.120
<v Speaker 2>last name is Klutz.

0:39:03.600 --> 0:39:12.200
<v Speaker 1>Agreed, Klutz's It's it's up there with Bummer and Falter, right,

0:39:12.520 --> 0:39:17.160
<v Speaker 1>all the difficult names of baseball and Scott blew It.

0:39:17.400 --> 0:39:19.320
<v Speaker 1>That's one of our favorite Yeah, Scott.

0:39:19.080 --> 0:39:23.000
<v Speaker 2>Blew It's all good, beautiful baseball name. So our shortstop

0:39:23.600 --> 0:39:26.040
<v Speaker 2>is a reach, but it's a reach on purpose. Mickey

0:39:26.160 --> 0:39:30.239
<v Speaker 2>Stanley is our shortstop. And Mickey Stanley was really a

0:39:30.440 --> 0:39:34.080
<v Speaker 2>really good defensive center fielder for the Tigers. But in

0:39:34.120 --> 0:39:37.480
<v Speaker 2>the sixty eight World Series, they took their center fielder

0:39:37.920 --> 0:39:40.520
<v Speaker 2>and they played them a shortstop in the World Series

0:39:40.920 --> 0:39:43.760
<v Speaker 2>instead of Ray Oiler, and they won the World Series

0:39:44.440 --> 0:39:47.360
<v Speaker 2>with a center fielder playing shortstop because Mickey Stanley was

0:39:47.440 --> 0:39:51.600
<v Speaker 2>such a great defender he could handle shortstop having played

0:39:51.680 --> 0:39:55.000
<v Speaker 2>even though he was technically a center fielder. All right,

0:39:55.080 --> 0:40:00.480
<v Speaker 2>our outfielders are relatively easy. Mickey Mantle, of course, Mickey Hatcher,

0:40:00.600 --> 0:40:03.799
<v Speaker 2>one of the great characters of all time. Dodgers all that,

0:40:04.400 --> 0:40:07.760
<v Speaker 2>and Mickey Rivers. Jeff, do you remember any Mickey Rivers

0:40:07.760 --> 0:40:10.279
<v Speaker 2>story that I told you over the years, because I've

0:40:10.320 --> 0:40:11.239
<v Speaker 2>told you, Benny.

0:40:11.239 --> 0:40:13.680
<v Speaker 1>How much money did he ask you for during spring

0:40:13.760 --> 0:40:20.719
<v Speaker 1>training eighty two? How much did you say? Two thousand dollars?

0:40:21.000 --> 0:40:25.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Mickey Rivers and spring training nineteen eighty two, while

0:40:25.400 --> 0:40:28.960
<v Speaker 2>he's making four hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year

0:40:29.440 --> 0:40:32.640
<v Speaker 2>ask me if he could borrow two thousand dollars. I

0:40:32.800 --> 0:40:36.360
<v Speaker 2>was making eleven thousand dollars at the time, and he's

0:40:36.440 --> 0:40:39.480
<v Speaker 2>asking me for two thousand. Mickey was an all time

0:40:39.560 --> 0:40:42.560
<v Speaker 2>favorite of mine. One of the bets our two pictures.

0:40:42.640 --> 0:40:45.480
<v Speaker 2>One is Mickey Welch, who's in the Hall of Fame,

0:40:46.040 --> 0:40:48.440
<v Speaker 2>and our other one is Mickey Lohlich, one of the

0:40:48.440 --> 0:40:52.120
<v Speaker 2>most underrated pictures in Major League history, one of the

0:40:52.280 --> 0:40:55.520
<v Speaker 2>very few left handers to ever strike out three thousand

0:40:55.560 --> 0:40:59.720
<v Speaker 2>batters in his career. And speaking of the sixty eight Tigers,

0:40:59.760 --> 0:41:03.839
<v Speaker 2>Micky Lolige won three games in the nineteen sixty eight

0:41:03.920 --> 0:41:07.239
<v Speaker 2>World Series as the Tigers roared back to beat the

0:41:07.280 --> 0:41:12.520
<v Speaker 2>Cardinals four games to three. Mickey Lolis really underrated pitcher, Dad.

0:41:12.560 --> 0:41:16.480
<v Speaker 1>That is an excellent team, Tim of all team Mickey,

0:41:16.680 --> 0:41:19.480
<v Speaker 1>which is great, right, although I think you're missing one

0:41:19.520 --> 0:41:22.200
<v Speaker 1>important one, which is who is the mascot?

0:41:23.160 --> 0:41:26.480
<v Speaker 2>Well would have to be Mickey Mouse, right.

0:41:26.360 --> 0:41:27.080
<v Speaker 1>Oh boy?

0:41:30.200 --> 0:41:34.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh Mickey, Yeah, pretty good. I don't think I've ever

0:41:34.280 --> 0:41:35.680
<v Speaker 2>heard you do that.

0:41:35.680 --> 0:41:37.560
<v Speaker 1>That's all I can do. I can do. Oh boy,

0:41:38.120 --> 0:41:48.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm Mickey Mouse. That's all I've got. The alphabet, Dad,

0:41:48.360 --> 0:41:51.160
<v Speaker 1>this is going to be a troubling one. Last names

0:41:51.400 --> 0:41:56.200
<v Speaker 1>starting with you. We need a pitcher and a position player.

0:41:56.560 --> 0:41:58.360
<v Speaker 1>The greatest of all time would last name you?

0:41:59.440 --> 0:42:02.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think there were only seventy players in Major

0:42:02.239 --> 0:42:06.080
<v Speaker 2>League history whose last names started with you. But Chase

0:42:06.160 --> 0:42:10.320
<v Speaker 2>Utley is the greatest position player ever with the last

0:42:10.400 --> 0:42:13.600
<v Speaker 2>name starting with you. Now, I consider Justin Upton, who

0:42:13.719 --> 0:42:17.279
<v Speaker 2>hit more home runs than anyone in history with the

0:42:17.360 --> 0:42:20.120
<v Speaker 2>last name starts with you. Of course, his brother bj

0:42:20.320 --> 0:42:23.440
<v Speaker 2>Upton was pretty darn good, Dan Uggla and a few others,

0:42:23.480 --> 0:42:26.200
<v Speaker 2>Willie Upshaw. But I'm going with Chase Utley, who I

0:42:26.200 --> 0:42:27.560
<v Speaker 2>think is going to be in the Hall of Fame

0:42:27.600 --> 0:42:29.880
<v Speaker 2>in a couple of years. As we talked about last week,

0:42:30.200 --> 0:42:34.120
<v Speaker 2>just went on the Phillies Wall of Fame. Nobody played

0:42:34.120 --> 0:42:38.960
<v Speaker 2>the game more correctly than Chase Utley. Nobody played the

0:42:39.000 --> 0:42:42.160
<v Speaker 2>game harder than Chase Utley. And even though the numbers

0:42:42.200 --> 0:42:45.400
<v Speaker 2>aren't overwhelming, I still believe he was the best player

0:42:45.560 --> 0:42:49.160
<v Speaker 2>on those really good Phillies teams that were really good

0:42:49.200 --> 0:42:51.719
<v Speaker 2>for quite some time. He taught those guys how to

0:42:51.719 --> 0:42:54.520
<v Speaker 2>win and how to play the game properly. So he's

0:42:54.560 --> 0:42:56.840
<v Speaker 2>my you good choice, Jeff, What do you think?

0:42:57.320 --> 0:43:00.719
<v Speaker 1>Well, he was just honored as well, and I think

0:43:00.760 --> 0:43:02.839
<v Speaker 1>he's going to be a future Hall of Famer. I

0:43:02.880 --> 0:43:06.959
<v Speaker 1>think Chase Utley is by far one of the most

0:43:07.080 --> 0:43:10.520
<v Speaker 1>underrated second basemen to play the game. He's a leader

0:43:10.560 --> 0:43:13.920
<v Speaker 1>in the clubhouse. I think it's a great, great choice for.

0:43:13.960 --> 0:43:19.120
<v Speaker 2>You, Okay. Pitcher was much harder. We had Ugi or

0:43:19.200 --> 0:43:22.040
<v Speaker 2>being out, we had Koji Uehara, we had a few others,

0:43:22.760 --> 0:43:27.880
<v Speaker 2>but I went with George oohl Uhl. Now, he pitched

0:43:28.800 --> 0:43:32.759
<v Speaker 2>from nineteen nineteen to nineteen thirty six, and he won

0:43:33.000 --> 0:43:36.200
<v Speaker 2>two hundred games, so I think by definition we have

0:43:36.320 --> 0:43:38.880
<v Speaker 2>to choose him. He had a twenty six win season

0:43:39.400 --> 0:43:42.279
<v Speaker 2>and a twenty seven win season. He's not a Hall

0:43:42.320 --> 0:43:45.680
<v Speaker 2>of Famer. Two hundred wins is nothing to sneeze at,

0:43:45.760 --> 0:43:49.120
<v Speaker 2>especially when you had two seasons of more than twenty

0:43:49.160 --> 0:43:52.000
<v Speaker 2>five victories. So that was the best I could do

0:43:52.040 --> 0:43:55.520
<v Speaker 2>with you. That was tricky because you know, we got

0:43:55.520 --> 0:43:57.560
<v Speaker 2>to go way back, and I don't pretend to know

0:43:57.640 --> 0:44:00.280
<v Speaker 2>a whole lot about him without looking up some stuff.

0:44:01.600 --> 0:44:04.240
<v Speaker 1>Dad, I think you has proven to be a really,

0:44:04.239 --> 0:44:07.320
<v Speaker 1>really difficult one. I know you have more difficult ones

0:44:07.400 --> 0:44:09.960
<v Speaker 1>down the road as we wrap up alpha best by

0:44:09.960 --> 0:44:13.600
<v Speaker 1>the end of the season. But uh, you you did

0:44:13.600 --> 0:44:16.000
<v Speaker 1>a great job on you see what I did there?

0:44:16.800 --> 0:44:19.480
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Yes, and you're right, Jeff. When we get to X,

0:44:19.520 --> 0:44:21.799
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna have to go with first names only when

0:44:21.800 --> 0:44:23.839
<v Speaker 2>we get to X, because we're not gonna there's no

0:44:23.880 --> 0:44:26.440
<v Speaker 2>one the last name X. It's ever played in the

0:44:26.480 --> 0:44:28.920
<v Speaker 2>major leagues. Okay, Jeff, Last thing for today?

0:44:28.960 --> 0:44:32.080
<v Speaker 1>What do we got three cards in the bathroom? Dad?

0:44:32.200 --> 0:44:32.759
<v Speaker 2>What do you have?

0:44:32.880 --> 0:44:35.160
<v Speaker 1>Let's pull those cards out and you're gonna riff off

0:44:35.160 --> 0:44:38.320
<v Speaker 1>of what you found here we go, right, Jeff's Ballard.

0:44:38.440 --> 0:44:41.520
<v Speaker 1>I covered Jeff Ballard when he played for the Orioles.

0:44:41.560 --> 0:44:45.359
<v Speaker 1>He was a Stampford guy, soft throwing left hander, very

0:44:45.400 --> 0:44:49.600
<v Speaker 1>good Major League pitcher for several years. Really really smart

0:44:49.600 --> 0:44:53.600
<v Speaker 1>guy and just another guy Jeff who understood.

0:44:53.120 --> 0:44:55.840
<v Speaker 2>What you know the world around him. I used to

0:44:55.840 --> 0:44:59.680
<v Speaker 2>write this Sunday notes column for the Baltimore Sun. It

0:44:59.719 --> 0:45:01.640
<v Speaker 2>was my favorite thing that I did in all my

0:45:01.719 --> 0:45:04.280
<v Speaker 2>years at the newspaper. I would write it every Sunday

0:45:04.640 --> 0:45:07.600
<v Speaker 2>and I had a little segment Jeff called is this

0:45:07.680 --> 0:45:09.960
<v Speaker 2>a great game or what? And that was the little

0:45:10.000 --> 0:45:12.360
<v Speaker 2>box that I had of all the fun kind of

0:45:12.400 --> 0:45:16.640
<v Speaker 2>cool things. So one day Jeff Ballard struck out Don

0:45:16.719 --> 0:45:20.719
<v Speaker 2>Mattingly three times in one game. I believe at the

0:45:20.800 --> 0:45:23.680
<v Speaker 2>time he was the only pitcher ever to strike out

0:45:23.719 --> 0:45:27.360
<v Speaker 2>Don Mattingly three times in one game. And the next

0:45:27.680 --> 0:45:30.840
<v Speaker 2>after the game, Jeff Ballard walked by me and said,

0:45:31.480 --> 0:45:35.400
<v Speaker 2>Sunday note, like he recognized that I was going to

0:45:35.520 --> 0:45:40.200
<v Speaker 2>tell everyone because all the writers exchanged information. Peter Gammon's

0:45:40.280 --> 0:45:42.759
<v Speaker 2>Jason Stark and I, we would do this and tell

0:45:42.840 --> 0:45:45.160
<v Speaker 2>us the best stuff we got from our team to

0:45:45.239 --> 0:45:47.760
<v Speaker 2>help out with their own Sunday notes. So Jeff Ballard

0:45:47.840 --> 0:45:51.080
<v Speaker 2>was smart enough to know that was a Sunday note.

0:45:51.520 --> 0:45:52.719
<v Speaker 2>Very cool. I love that.

0:45:52.840 --> 0:45:53.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh I just got chills.

0:45:53.840 --> 0:45:54.319
<v Speaker 4>That was neat.

0:45:54.360 --> 0:46:00.319
<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, okay, second is Starling Marte. And I'm by

0:46:00.360 --> 0:46:02.799
<v Speaker 2>this for a while there. Jeff, for at least a

0:46:02.800 --> 0:46:05.120
<v Speaker 2>couple of years, or maybe just one year, he was

0:46:05.200 --> 0:46:11.479
<v Speaker 2>the leader active leader in triples with fifty five. That's

0:46:11.520 --> 0:46:14.279
<v Speaker 2>the active leader. Never forget Jeff Babe Ruth hit one

0:46:14.400 --> 0:46:17.840
<v Speaker 2>hundred and thirty six triples in his career. The active

0:46:17.920 --> 0:46:21.839
<v Speaker 2>leader for when Starling Marte. This was like a year,

0:46:21.920 --> 0:46:24.359
<v Speaker 2>two years ago he had fifty five that was the most,

0:46:24.400 --> 0:46:28.160
<v Speaker 2>and Mike Trout now has fifty five. But Corbyn Carroll

0:46:28.280 --> 0:46:32.160
<v Speaker 2>of the Diamondbacks, who is a triples machine, is now

0:46:32.239 --> 0:46:36.560
<v Speaker 2>the active leader with fifty six triples. He just passed

0:46:37.239 --> 0:46:41.240
<v Speaker 2>Mike Trout and Starling Marte on the active list for triples.

0:46:41.239 --> 0:46:44.160
<v Speaker 2>So I just pulled this guy out, thinking, well, what

0:46:44.200 --> 0:46:46.560
<v Speaker 2>am I going to say about Starling Marte? And there's

0:46:46.640 --> 0:46:51.040
<v Speaker 2>an actual triples note. Pretty cool for Jeff. I was

0:46:51.080 --> 0:46:54.279
<v Speaker 2>also intrigued by this. In the year two thousand, I'll

0:46:54.320 --> 0:47:00.680
<v Speaker 2>never forget this, Christian Guzman of the Twins had twenty

0:47:00.719 --> 0:47:04.719
<v Speaker 2>triples and he had more triples than the home run

0:47:04.800 --> 0:47:09.040
<v Speaker 2>leader on his team had home runs. Now, how unusual

0:47:09.080 --> 0:47:12.200
<v Speaker 2>do you think that is, Jeff, that the triples leader

0:47:12.440 --> 0:47:15.640
<v Speaker 2>had more than the that could never Well, it's not

0:47:15.640 --> 0:47:16.719
<v Speaker 2>going to happen this year.

0:47:16.960 --> 0:47:19.080
<v Speaker 1>It's not happening this year. Might have happened one hundred

0:47:19.120 --> 0:47:22.319
<v Speaker 1>and fifteen years ago, when the stadiums were so big

0:47:22.360 --> 0:47:24.279
<v Speaker 1>and people were only hitting eight home runs in a

0:47:24.320 --> 0:47:25.799
<v Speaker 1>game or in a season.

0:47:25.600 --> 0:47:30.320
<v Speaker 2>Right right, Well, Corvin Carroll has thirteen triples. Cotel Marte

0:47:30.360 --> 0:47:33.040
<v Speaker 2>on his team has twenty one homers. So I don't

0:47:33.080 --> 0:47:35.920
<v Speaker 2>see that happening this year, But Jeff, I was amazed.

0:47:36.880 --> 0:47:41.880
<v Speaker 2>Six times since nineteen sixty one has a triples leader

0:47:42.480 --> 0:47:46.640
<v Speaker 2>had more triples than the home run leader on their team,

0:47:46.719 --> 0:47:49.520
<v Speaker 2>And the last time it was done was by the

0:47:49.560 --> 0:47:54.839
<v Speaker 2>Mets in twoenty eleven, Jose Reis had sixteen triples and

0:47:54.920 --> 0:47:58.919
<v Speaker 2>Carlos Beltron hall of Famer, had fifteen homers. Wow, so's

0:47:59.200 --> 0:48:01.960
<v Speaker 2>that's way more then you thought it would be, right, I.

0:48:01.920 --> 0:48:06.000
<v Speaker 1>Thought it was gonna easily be nineteen twelve where Mordecai

0:48:06.160 --> 0:48:08.640
<v Speaker 1>three finger Brown v. Spazzy Davis.

0:48:12.560 --> 0:48:15.920
<v Speaker 2>Pretty good, Jeff, all right. Our last one is Dwight Evans.

0:48:15.960 --> 0:48:19.560
<v Speaker 2>Dwight Evans is a borderline Hall of Famer. He's one

0:48:19.560 --> 0:48:22.880
<v Speaker 2>of the greatest defensive right fielders I've ever seen. He

0:48:22.920 --> 0:48:25.760
<v Speaker 2>had one of the greatest throwing arms I've ever seen.

0:48:26.320 --> 0:48:29.759
<v Speaker 2>And one year, Jeff he let off a game the

0:48:29.840 --> 0:48:33.520
<v Speaker 2>first pitch thrown in the baseball season. He had a

0:48:33.520 --> 0:48:36.760
<v Speaker 2>home run off of Jack Morris on the first pitch

0:48:36.840 --> 0:48:40.640
<v Speaker 2>thrown in the baseball season. And years and years later

0:48:41.239 --> 0:48:44.799
<v Speaker 2>I did an opening day with Ravi and Eduardo in

0:48:44.920 --> 0:48:48.640
<v Speaker 2>Florida and Ian Happ hit the first pitch of the

0:48:48.680 --> 0:48:52.319
<v Speaker 2>game for a home run off that Urania guy. So

0:48:53.440 --> 0:48:55.759
<v Speaker 2>it was the first time since the first pitch of

0:48:55.800 --> 0:48:58.400
<v Speaker 2>the season had been hit for a homer and that

0:48:58.560 --> 0:49:01.000
<v Speaker 2>was by Dwight Evans and then many years later by

0:49:01.440 --> 0:49:03.640
<v Speaker 2>Ian Happ then of the Cubs.

0:49:03.640 --> 0:49:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Pretty cool, Pretty cool, Pretty cool. I like that a lot, Dad.

0:49:08.000 --> 0:49:11.359
<v Speaker 1>This has been a full force episode here. I mean,

0:49:11.640 --> 0:49:13.520
<v Speaker 1>I feel like for a little while, with the trade

0:49:13.560 --> 0:49:16.320
<v Speaker 1>deadline and a whole bunch of things moving, we have

0:49:16.400 --> 0:49:18.440
<v Speaker 1>been all over the place. But we're finally kind of

0:49:18.440 --> 0:49:20.720
<v Speaker 1>back into the swing of the second half of the season,

0:49:20.840 --> 0:49:23.920
<v Speaker 1>and this is an exciting time for Major League Baseball.

0:49:24.120 --> 0:49:28.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh and I can't get over it. Feel the dreams tonight. Right,

0:49:28.120 --> 0:49:31.799
<v Speaker 1>if you build it, he will come right or as

0:49:31.840 --> 0:49:34.360
<v Speaker 1>I say in my household, if I build it, she

0:49:34.520 --> 0:49:37.279
<v Speaker 1>will come knock it over. My daughter if you build

0:49:37.320 --> 0:49:40.840
<v Speaker 1>anything with her blocks or her bricks, if you're trying

0:49:40.880 --> 0:49:42.480
<v Speaker 1>to like have some fun on you, and she goes,

0:49:42.520 --> 0:49:44.839
<v Speaker 1>can I knock it over? And I'm like, oh, okay,

0:49:44.920 --> 0:49:47.560
<v Speaker 1>go ahead, go ahead. Dad was working hard on a castle,

0:49:47.760 --> 0:49:48.280
<v Speaker 1>but go ahead.

0:49:48.360 --> 0:49:52.640
<v Speaker 2>Look, yeah, I just did a puzzle yesterday with your nephew,

0:49:52.760 --> 0:49:57.279
<v Speaker 2>your godson, Carson, he's five. He was way better at

0:49:57.360 --> 0:50:01.319
<v Speaker 2>putting the puzzle together than I was, and we were

0:50:01.360 --> 0:50:03.880
<v Speaker 2>so proud that we got it done in a relatively

0:50:03.920 --> 0:50:06.680
<v Speaker 2>short amount of time. And then as I took a

0:50:06.719 --> 0:50:08.560
<v Speaker 2>picture of it, which I think I sent out to

0:50:08.600 --> 0:50:11.120
<v Speaker 2>the family, and as soon as we were done with

0:50:11.200 --> 0:50:14.359
<v Speaker 2>the puzzle, he like broke it into a thousand pieces. Well,

0:50:14.440 --> 0:50:16.719
<v Speaker 2>what would be the point there? Is that? What kids do?

0:50:16.840 --> 0:50:17.480
<v Speaker 2>I forget it?

0:50:17.640 --> 0:50:19.719
<v Speaker 1>Well, you can't do the puzzle again if it's not

0:50:19.800 --> 0:50:23.400
<v Speaker 1>taking apart. But I guess they don't enjoy you know.

0:50:23.520 --> 0:50:25.120
<v Speaker 1>I was the kind of kid who when I would

0:50:25.120 --> 0:50:27.879
<v Speaker 1>have a Lego set, all I would do is I'd

0:50:27.880 --> 0:50:29.439
<v Speaker 1>put it together and then I would try to find

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<v Speaker 1>a corner of the house to put it in so

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<v Speaker 1>nobody could ever touch it. I didn't even like playing

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<v Speaker 1>with him, because I liked seeing my work in front

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<v Speaker 1>of me until neighborhood kids would come over and blow

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<v Speaker 1>them up. That was a very emotional day for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Another story for another time. Never we'll have Hogwartz back again.

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<v Speaker 1>But besides the point any.

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff, just to finish, Jip, you talk about how we're

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<v Speaker 2>in the stretch run. This is the best part about baseball.

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<v Speaker 2>The last six weeks of the season, Pennant races who's

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<v Speaker 2>going to make the playoffs, who isn't. And then we

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<v Speaker 2>get to October, so trade deadline's over. A bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>things have happened here all Star Game. But now comes

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<v Speaker 2>the real fun part. Because we are in the stretch

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<v Speaker 2>run of the season. I can't wait to see who

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<v Speaker 2>makes the playoffs and who doesn't make the playoffs. It's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be so good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's right. Don't forget to like, subscribe, follow, leave

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