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Speaker 3: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. Hi,
Speaker 3: I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been
Speaker 3: on a journey to prove the existence of life after death.
Speaker 3: On each episode, we'll discuss the reasons we now know
Speaker 3: that our loved ones have survived physical death and so
Speaker 3: will we Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. You may
Speaker 3: wonder why I pick certain topics for each episode, and
Speaker 3: the truth is, as a human being, I deal with
Speaker 3: the same things you deal with the hopes and fears, anxiety, frustrations,
Speaker 3: moments of joy, excitement, all of it. Before recording, I
Speaker 3: put a little prayer out to who's ever listening and
Speaker 3: ask for some stories that'll make a difference both for
Speaker 3: you and for me. This episode, I'm fully aware of
Speaker 3: some of the fear and struggles and worry that many
Speaker 3: people have going on in their lives right now. Turn
Speaker 3: on the news and it will really stir it up
Speaker 3: and turn our concerns to high volume. If you're a
Speaker 3: super fan of this show, you've already heard the story
Speaker 3: written by Jane. She says, I remember an incident that
Speaker 3: happened when I was in my sophomore year of pre
Speaker 3: med studies. I've always been interested in healing because my
Speaker 3: mother had died years earlier, and I'd been exposed to
Speaker 3: many physicians and hospital settings. Yet while I knew I
Speaker 3: wanted to be a doctor, I was overcome by fear
Speaker 3: and doubt about whether or not I could make it
Speaker 3: through the years of school. I was devastated when I
Speaker 3: got the news that my father had been diagnosed with
Speaker 3: gastric cancer. Although I was focused on my studies, I
Speaker 3: decided to take a leave of absence to help him
Speaker 3: fight the disease. As I stepped onto the cancer roller coaster,
Speaker 3: I was committed to facing the difficult challenges that were ahead,
Speaker 3: and quickly learned that it wasn't only an emotional drain,
Speaker 3: but also a financial one, since there were many necessary
Speaker 3: treatments that our health insurance didn't cover. Before all of
Speaker 3: this happened, I been getting ready for the medical college
Speaker 3: admission test and was overcome with fear and anxiety. I
Speaker 3: knew this one exam could make or break my career
Speaker 3: in medicine. But as my father's condition grew worse, I
Speaker 3: realized that my plan to take off a semester wasn't realistic.
Speaker 3: This was going to be a much worse ordeal than
Speaker 3: I had imagined. I realized that I had to face
Speaker 3: the fact that cancer had spread and my dad was dying.
Speaker 3: It turned out that I was terrified of losing him
Speaker 3: as he was dying. My father had always been a
Speaker 3: fearful person, but my mother had known how to calm
Speaker 3: his fears. I'd taken over that role years ago, but
Speaker 3: Dad and I only had each other. I couldn't imagine
Speaker 3: my life without him. Late one night, when i'd fallen
Speaker 3: asleep on the couch next to my father's bed. I
Speaker 3: woke up hearing his voice. I looked over and saw
Speaker 3: him reaching toward the ceiling. Dad, what's going on? What
Speaker 3: are you reaching for? She's here? Who your mother? She's
Speaker 3: right here? I was in awe. Could it be true?
Speaker 3: Was it possible that she was actually in the room? Dad?
Speaker 3: I said, what's mom saying? Tell her how much I
Speaker 3: miss her. My father was mesmerized by whatever he was
Speaker 3: gazing upon, but then he started speaking, she wants us
Speaker 3: to know that there's nothing to fear. There was never
Speaker 3: anything to fear. She's been watching over us, and she
Speaker 3: loves how you've been taking care of me. Now she'll
Speaker 3: be watching over you and your family. There is nothing
Speaker 3: to be afraid of. I wondered what family my mother
Speaker 3: was talking about. After all, I was single and my
Speaker 3: dad was dying. When he died the next day, I
Speaker 3: took little comfort in the words he said. Both of
Speaker 3: my parents were now gone, and I felt utterly alone.
Speaker 3: To make things worse, my savings were diminished and I
Speaker 3: had no hope of paying for medical school. I transferred
Speaker 3: to a local college and went on to earn my
Speaker 3: degree in psychology. I became a counselor with a private practice,
Speaker 3: and I met the man I would marry. Within a
Speaker 3: few years, I had a wonderful husband and two healthy children.
Speaker 3: I knew this was the family that my mother said
Speaker 3: she'd be watching over. Today, nearly seventeen years after my
Speaker 3: father's death, my kids are teenagers, and I'm still inspired
Speaker 3: by my dad's vision. I recall my mother's words, there's
Speaker 3: nothing to fear, and there never was. And now I
Speaker 3: realized that fear doesn't stop death, it stops life. After
Speaker 3: I was ultimately able to overcome my own fears and doubts,
Speaker 3: I went back to school to prepare for that test
Speaker 3: that I had begun to study for so many years ago.
Speaker 3: I now see that while my father's illness temporarily stopped
Speaker 3: me from going after my dreams, his vision of my
Speaker 3: mother's encouragement brought my dreams back to life. Those words
Speaker 3: really got to me. And I know you're dealing with
Speaker 3: your own fears and anxieties, and I love this sentence.
Speaker 3: She wants us to know that there's nothing to fear,
Speaker 3: and there was never anything to fear. Those are easy
Speaker 3: words to say, but it's hard to do. I've often
Speaker 3: heard the best way to deal with fear is just
Speaker 3: to plow right through it. And I've also witnessed that
Speaker 3: the hardest part of fear is what happens in our heads.
Speaker 3: When we're so present and in action, the fear goes away.
Speaker 3: It's only when we stop and we start thinking about
Speaker 3: it again that fear comes back. In Author Neil Donald
Speaker 3: Walsh says, life begins at the end of your comfort zone.
Speaker 3: I love that, and I'm sure you have testimonies. But
Speaker 3: things you've overcome, and how grateful you are that you
Speaker 3: did those things. Mark Twain said this, twenty years from now,
Speaker 3: you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't
Speaker 3: do than by the things you did do. So throw
Speaker 3: off the bow lines, sail away from safe harbor, catch
Speaker 3: the trade winds in your sales, explore, dream, discover, and
Speaker 3: William shed said a ship in the harbor is safe,
Speaker 3: but that is not what ships are built for. You
Speaker 3: and I, my friend, well, we are ships in this
Speaker 3: thing called life. And while we're together today, I want
Speaker 3: you to hear some near death experience stories that talk
Speaker 3: about such fears, and I'm hoping that they empower you
Speaker 3: to go after your dreams to realize that we are
Speaker 3: being supported by loved ones in this invisible space around us.
Speaker 3: We can't see them, but they're here. And what Jane's
Speaker 3: mother said, there's nothing to fear. Our first story is
Speaker 3: by author Rosemary Thornton, who not just was a survivor
Speaker 3: of her husband's suicide, but she herself had cancer. Her
Speaker 3: story tells us we don't need to be afraid, and
Speaker 3: miracles are possible.
Speaker 4: I had a minor medical procedure done, a cervical biopsy,
Speaker 4: and the expectation was it would take less than thirty
Speaker 4: minutes and i'd be home that night and ready to
Speaker 4: eat dinner and no big deal. But it actually unfolded
Speaker 4: very differently. After the biopsy, I was put in recovery
Speaker 4: and I noticed I was bleeding profusely, and I summoned
Speaker 4: the RN and said, something's gone wrong, and she reassured
Speaker 4: me three times despite my protests, that everything was just fine.
Speaker 4: They sent me home, and at home, I realized that
Speaker 4: I was bleeding profusely and it was not getting any better.
Speaker 4: So I asked my friend who had driven me home,
Speaker 4: to summon an ambulance because I realized given the great
Speaker 4: quantity of blood and the speed with which I was
Speaker 4: losing it that I thought I might be dying. So
Speaker 4: he summoned an ambulance and they came and took me
Speaker 4: to an er that was not far from my home,
Speaker 4: and at the er had a very young doctor, and
Speaker 4: I think she was a bit afraid. She didn't really
Speaker 4: seem to know what she was doing. And I continued
Speaker 4: to bleed, and they just packed some gauze and left
Speaker 4: me alone in the room. They'd given me some Delauded
Speaker 4: for pain in an IV and then walked out of
Speaker 4: the room, leaving me alone with my friend. And I
Speaker 4: lost consciousness soon after that delauded, and I was actually unconscious.
Speaker 3: When I died.
Speaker 4: And I woke up at the moment my heart stopped,
Speaker 4: and my very first thought was my heart has stopped.
Speaker 4: And I was literally floating further and further away from
Speaker 4: my body, and I thought, how do I know my
Speaker 4: my heart has stopped? And I thought, boy, I don't
Speaker 4: know how I know, but I know that's right. And
Speaker 4: then as I'm continuing to float away from my body,
Speaker 4: I thought, boy, my whole life, I've wondered what it
Speaker 4: would be like to die, what would take me out?
Speaker 4: And now it's happened, and it was no big deal.
Speaker 4: And I remember thinking, I wish I'd known what a
Speaker 4: non big deal this was, and I wouldn't have been
Speaker 4: so afraid as a writer. I thought to myself, Wow,
Speaker 4: I'm dying. And then I said, no, actually, you're not dying.
Speaker 3: You're dead.
Speaker 4: And it made me laugh out loud, literally, and I
Speaker 4: heard myself giggle, and I thought, what exactly did I
Speaker 4: leave behind on that gurney. I'm giggling. I'm thinking, I
Speaker 4: can see, I can hear, all my senses are intact.
Speaker 4: It was very remarkable to realize there really is no death.
Speaker 4: Not is there no death, but everything we are, even
Speaker 4: our funny little giggle, goes with us. The most remarkable
Speaker 4: aspect of my near death experience, and by the way
Speaker 4: I call it my temporary death, I wasn't near death.
Speaker 4: I had no heart beat, no blood pressure, nothing for
Speaker 4: more than ten minutes. I prefer to think of it
Speaker 4: as temporary death. But during that time I was impressed
Speaker 4: beyond words by how much peace and calm I felt.
Speaker 4: If you could take the most perfect peace a human
Speaker 4: being could ever imagine and multiply it by a million,
Speaker 4: I don't think that would touch what I experienced, and
Speaker 4: that peace was so profound in life changing. And I remember,
Speaker 4: as I was again floating in the darkness, I remember
Speaker 4: thinking I should be afraid. I don't like the dark,
Speaker 4: and I thought I should be afraid. But I have
Speaker 4: the most perfect peace I've ever known. And that's one
Speaker 4: of the reasons I had no intention of going back
Speaker 4: as a writer. As a creative person, I have always
Speaker 4: suffered from profound anxiety, and subsequent to my husband's tragic death,
Speaker 4: it seemed like that was multiplied one hundredfold. All that
Speaker 4: anxiety was gone. And while I was wondering what exactly
Speaker 4: did I leave behind on that gurney, I realized I
Speaker 4: left behind the fear, the worries, the anxiety. And I
Speaker 4: thought of always wondered what I would look like when
Speaker 4: I had no anxiety and no fear and no worries,
Speaker 4: and I thought, this is great, this is wonderful. So
Speaker 4: I was floating through that blackness and I thought about
Speaker 4: the Bible verse the piece that passeth all understanding, and
Speaker 4: I thought, this is what Paul was talking about. This
Speaker 4: is the piece that words could never describe. It passes
Speaker 4: all the understanding we have as human beings. It was
Speaker 4: so profound. It still is very touching to me. That
Speaker 4: piece I felt. And at one point early on in
Speaker 4: the experience, shortly after I passed, I thought, I'm having
Speaker 4: a great time. I'm alone, but I'm having a great time.
Speaker 4: I remember thinking, I like floating. Floating is fun, this
Speaker 4: is great. And as a writer, that's horrible. That's horrible text.
Speaker 4: I should have been using bigger words, more expressive language.
Speaker 4: But how is the best I could do?
Speaker 3: No fear, no anxiety. That sounds like heaven. Oh yes
Speaker 3: it was. We'll be right back with more of Rosemary's story.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain.
Speaker 3: Let's continue with Rosemary's near death experience and her surprising healing.
Speaker 4: I sensed a massive spiritual presence with me just to
Speaker 4: my left and slightly behind me. Well, I'm still floating
Speaker 4: in this blackness and having the time of my life
Speaker 4: literally and I turned my head to the left and
Speaker 4: a little bit up, and I said, and who are you?
Speaker 4: And the answer was immediate. The answer was you, Rosemary.
Speaker 4: You are the image and likeness. I'm the original. And
Speaker 4: I thought wow. And for many years of my life,
Speaker 4: I've studied Genesis, specifically First Genesis, and that's the language
Speaker 4: of the Bible from First Genesis twenty five and twenty
Speaker 4: six that were made in God's image and likeness. But
Speaker 4: these words came with an infusion of knowledge. It wasn't
Speaker 4: mere words. The Bible talks about in the beginning. Was
Speaker 4: the word and I thought about that that this is
Speaker 4: what that meant. These were words that came with all
Speaker 4: the power that created the universe, And I thought, wow,
Speaker 4: could this possibly get any better? Because now I understand
Speaker 4: I'm the image and likeness. It was an experience. I
Speaker 4: know people say this often that words can't describe, but
Speaker 4: I was having such a good time and I felt, honestly,
Speaker 4: my life has not been an easy one, and I
Speaker 4: was so grateful that at age fifty it was over
Speaker 4: that it almost felt like I'd been granted an early
Speaker 4: release for good behavior. And now I was on my
Speaker 4: way back home. And that was a profound feeling was
Speaker 4: that I was just going home. I didn't want to
Speaker 4: go back to Earth at all. It never even crossed
Speaker 4: my mind about coming back. I literally remember thanking God
Speaker 4: that I was done, that I had done what I
Speaker 4: needed to do, and I was now moving home. And
Speaker 4: at some point it's almost like somebody took my batteries out.
Speaker 4: There's a complete blank from being in that blackness to
Speaker 4: being in a white room. And it was a beautiful room,
Speaker 4: but it was pure white. The walls, the ceiling, the
Speaker 4: floor were like luminescent, purlescent white, white white. I was
Speaker 4: in this room, and I don't remember the transition from
Speaker 4: floating in that blackness to the white and that white room.
Speaker 4: I was told I was there for healing, that whether
Speaker 4: I went back or whether I went on, we can't
Speaker 4: go to heaven with burdens and sadness and sickness. So
Speaker 4: I thought, okay, well, this is great. I like the
Speaker 4: white room, and being an architectural storian, I looked around
Speaker 4: for lights and there were no lights. It was just
Speaker 4: the walls were illuminated from within, and I saw a
Speaker 4: door at the other side of the room, and I decided,
Speaker 4: I don't know if I have feet or legs, but
Speaker 4: I'm going to perambulate toward that door. And it was
Speaker 4: almost as though just with the intention, I started moving
Speaker 4: toward the door, and I knew where the door was
Speaker 4: my whole life. I've studied near death experiences and read
Speaker 4: the books, and I knew the door meant that there
Speaker 4: was no coming back, that that was crossing the rubicon.
Speaker 4: So I eagerly scooted toward the door at best possible
Speaker 4: speed because I was done. And at the door, I paused. Oh,
Speaker 4: I paused, and I asked, is this the divine will
Speaker 4: for my life? That a simple slip of the surgical
Speaker 4: knife takes me out? And the answer was no. But
Speaker 4: the answer also was, but whatever you decide, if you
Speaker 4: decide to go forward or you decide to go back,
Speaker 4: whatever decision you make, you go with all of God's
Speaker 4: grace and mercy and blessings and love. There isn't a
Speaker 4: wrong decision. And that was immensely comforting because two and
Speaker 4: a half years prior to this event, my husband had
Speaker 4: come home for lunch one day and ended his life
Speaker 4: at our home, and I had been suffering from so
Speaker 4: many pains from that experience suicide survivors have burdens that
Speaker 4: most people can't imagine. But there have been so many
Speaker 4: difficult decisions to make, and one of my daily prayers was, God,
Speaker 4: I can't make any more decisions. These decisions all hurt
Speaker 4: so much and are so tough, and all have such
Speaker 4: enormous consequences. So I felt like God had heard my
Speaker 4: prayers and saying, Okay, you don't have to make a
Speaker 4: tough decision. There's not a wrong decision here, and that
Speaker 4: meant the world to me. And my other daily prayer
Speaker 4: had been either let me die in my sleep or
Speaker 4: heal me. But the pain occasioned by my husband's horrific
Speaker 4: suicide had cost me more grief and agony and suffering
Speaker 4: than I could ever enumerate with words, So I felt
Speaker 4: like those prayers had been answered too, that I had
Speaker 4: passed in relative peace and it was over. And my
Speaker 4: other prayer had been that I would not have a
Speaker 4: life review. Having gone through this once, I did not
Speaker 4: want to experience it again, and I did not have
Speaker 4: a life review. Opened my eyes to how prayers a
Speaker 4: petition are also powerful, powerful prayers, So at that door,
Speaker 4: I was so grateful to hear that there wasn't a
Speaker 4: bad decision. There wasn't a wrong decision. So I reached
Speaker 4: for the doorknob, and I had a memory come to
Speaker 4: me of the nurse that had stood by my side
Speaker 4: when I was in that emergency room. She had held
Speaker 4: my hand as I was bleeding out before I lost consciousness.
Speaker 4: I had exacted a promise from her that she wasn't
Speaker 4: going to let me die, and she said, oh, honey,
Speaker 4: we're not going to let you die. We have many
Speaker 4: solutions for this. So at that door, as I reached
Speaker 4: for that door to move on, that image of that
Speaker 4: nurse came to mind, and I had a vision of her.
Speaker 4: I saw her sitting on a stool in a hospital
Speaker 4: supply room with her head in her hands, sobbing un
Speaker 4: controllably and saying, I promised that woman I wasn't going
Speaker 4: to let her die. And I lost her, And especially
Speaker 4: after all the grief and pain I'd known for my
Speaker 4: husband's death, I thought, I don't think I can do
Speaker 4: that to somebody. I don't think I can inflict that
Speaker 4: much pain on somebody else. And I was still wondering,
Speaker 4: maybe I can. I can just go on, because I
Speaker 4: need to go. I'm ready to go, and then I
Speaker 4: felt her pain. I didn't just see it, I felt
Speaker 4: it internally, and it swamped me. It was like somebody
Speaker 4: hit me in the chest with the pain, and I
Speaker 4: realized I could not do that. I felt her pain
Speaker 4: and it was so overwhelming and so painful. I realized
Speaker 4: I had to go back. So I literally had my
Speaker 4: right hand on that door to push through and go on,
Speaker 4: and I literally put my right hand back at my side,
Speaker 4: still pretty interested by the fact that I was right
Speaker 4: handed in heaven, but I thought, if I die, this
Speaker 4: is going to ruin her day, which she'd get over it,
Speaker 4: I realized now. But in a millisecond of a millisecond,
Speaker 4: I was back on that gurney in the er with
Speaker 4: a lot of activity happening all around me. And I
Speaker 4: was in the hospital for several days because I'd lost
Speaker 4: so much blood, my heart had stopped, which was very affirming.
Speaker 4: They told me the next day my heart had stopped.
Speaker 4: I had a heart attack occasioned by the lack of blood,
Speaker 4: and there was an expectation that there'd be all kinds
Speaker 4: of serious after effects from this. The heart attack they
Speaker 4: believed had done significant damage to my heart and kidneys,
Speaker 4: and liver.
Speaker 6: And on and on and on.
Speaker 4: But I told them at every step of the way,
Speaker 4: the Angel said, if I agreed to come back, I'd
Speaker 4: come back hole and healthy. They did their test anyway,
Speaker 4: and all the tests affirmed that I had come back
Speaker 4: completely whole and without any lingering effects. And at the
Speaker 4: time of my death, I had been diagnosed with cervical cancer,
Speaker 4: which was at stage two because it had already spread
Speaker 4: to nearby places. And when I came back from that,
Speaker 4: it took significant test and some effort, but it was
Speaker 4: affirmed that every vest of the disease was gone. I
Speaker 4: was completely healed. And while people love that, they love
Speaker 4: that story, to me, the bigger healing was my soul.
Speaker 4: And shortly after that, I opened my Bible when I
Speaker 4: was back home, and I opened it to Psalm twenty three,
Speaker 4: and it said He restored my soul. I remember this
Speaker 4: so clearly. I was laying on the floor reading it,
Speaker 4: and I cried for about a half hour, and I realized,
Speaker 4: that's the real healing. While I'm very grateful to be
Speaker 4: disease free, very grateful for a story that affirms the
Speaker 4: goodness of God, the power of love, the restorative power
Speaker 4: of such an experience. To have my soul healed was
Speaker 4: something that only God could do. The most remarkable healing
Speaker 4: was my soul. That the sadness, the grief, the regret,
Speaker 4: the pain, the agony of losing my husband to suicide
Speaker 4: was gone. And what the angels told me was that
Speaker 4: it had been encapsulated, that it was there, and it
Speaker 4: had caused a lot of pain, but it couldn't hurt
Speaker 4: me anymore. And I found that.
Speaker 3: To be true.
Speaker 4: I was in the hospital for four days, and as
Speaker 4: soon as I got home from the hospital, I had
Speaker 4: these mole traps all over my backyard. I'm still pretty
Speaker 4: weak fresh out of the hospital, and I went around
Speaker 4: the backyard and I kicked all the mole traps out
Speaker 4: because I thought these could hurt somebody. The idea of
Speaker 4: hurting a little mole caused me great pain, and I
Speaker 4: subsequently started selling off all of my personal possessions. As
Speaker 4: a writer, I had vast amounts of archival documents and materials.
Speaker 4: I donated all of it to a college library. I
Speaker 4: started selling off my family's heirlooms, furniture they've been in
Speaker 4: the family for generations, because I thought, you know, somebody
Speaker 4: else will enjoy this a lot. And then I sold
Speaker 4: my car, and that's when my friends really thought I'd
Speaker 4: lost my mind. That was my dream car. I had
Speaker 4: special ordered. It took two months to get, but I
Speaker 4: drove it back to the dealership, had a friend take
Speaker 4: me and I said, how much will you give me
Speaker 4: for this car? And they said, Missus Thornton, you spent
Speaker 4: two months waiting for that car, And I said, I know,
Speaker 4: I don't need it anymore. My furniture, my possessions in
Speaker 4: my car sold, my home listed, it sold within two hours,
Speaker 4: and then I left. I was living in the Virginia
Speaker 4: Beach area, and I left. I packed my clothes and
Speaker 4: some possessions in a slightly used Prius which I had bought,
Speaker 4: and I drove a thousand miles due west to start
Speaker 4: a new life. And that was also exactly what I needed.
Speaker 4: The old memories of where I had lived with my
Speaker 4: husband were dragging me to the depths of hell, and
Speaker 4: starting over was liberating. I cannot begin to describe what
Speaker 4: it felt like to be free of all those earthwaights
Speaker 4: and to have a new chance at a new life.
Speaker 4: And so many people have said, oh, I wish I
Speaker 4: could do that. And yet that's what's interesting is that's
Speaker 4: when my friends really thought I'd lost my mind, is
Speaker 4: when I started selling off everything I owned and said
Speaker 4: I was going one thousand miles west. It's changed me
Speaker 4: in every way a human being can be changed, and
Speaker 4: it's all for the good. And now everything looks so different.
Speaker 4: But I do cry more easily. When I hear about
Speaker 4: somebody who's lost somebody to suicide. I typically just burst
Speaker 4: out in tears because I feel their pain. And yet
Speaker 4: I don't go home crying and keep crying for days
Speaker 4: like I used to. I don't crawl into bed and
Speaker 4: stay there. So everything has gotten so much better, I
Speaker 4: guess the biggest struggles. I still think maybe I died
Speaker 4: and I've just gone to a new place because I'm
Speaker 4: not sure exactly what's happening. I feel completely different. An
Speaker 4: interesting consequence of this, after I was out of the hospital,
Speaker 4: I realized that the arthritis that had plagued me in
Speaker 4: my wrist disappeared. I had a busted knee from an
Speaker 4: old injury that healed up. I had a busted shoulder
Speaker 4: from an old injury. Pretty much I got, as my
Speaker 4: friend in It says, you got rebooted by the creator.
Speaker 4: It's been an amazing experience. Every now and then somebody says,
Speaker 4: how do you know you really died? There's so many ways,
Speaker 4: but I guess the biggest would be when I died,
Speaker 4: I had been diagnosed with this life threatening illness. When
Speaker 4: I came back, it had evaporated. I mean, there's no
Speaker 4: meta explanation for any of that. And then my blood
Speaker 4: work showed that I had a full recovery from hemorrhaging
Speaker 4: to death within ten days. Within ten days, all of
Speaker 4: my numbers on the blood work were back to normal,
Speaker 4: which the doctors told me would take about three months,
Speaker 4: and it happened in ten days. But again, the angels
Speaker 4: reassured me everything would be reset, and it was.
Speaker 3: She's got a great laugh and a good outlook on life.
Speaker 3: If you haven't yet read Anita Morjani's Dying to Be Me,
Speaker 3: that's another near death experience with healing. Let's take a
Speaker 3: quick break and we'll be back. You're listening to Shades
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Speaker 3: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain
Speaker 3: and we're talking about fear and anxiety and the difference
Speaker 3: having a near death experience makes. Now. I don't know
Speaker 3: about you, but I do not want to have a
Speaker 3: near death experience. But I want to learn all the
Speaker 3: valuable things that people get out of them and apply
Speaker 3: them to my life. Doctor ken Ring did a lot
Speaker 3: of research with near death experiences, even studied the near
Speaker 3: death experiences of the blind, which we talked about long
Speaker 3: time ago here on Shades of the After Life. But
Speaker 3: here are some commonalities I want to share of the
Speaker 3: near death experience. One. In the cases in which people
Speaker 3: came closest to death or were clinically dead, they told
Speaker 3: of being outside of their bodies or moving through a
Speaker 3: void or dark tunnel toward a luminous light, of meeting
Speaker 3: departed relatives and friends, of having a feeling of great
Speaker 3: comfort and bliss, and of being surrounded by compassionate love,
Speaker 3: of feeling so beautiful they longed to remain when they
Speaker 3: returned to their earthly lives, and they were affected by
Speaker 3: this feeling for the rest of their lives.
Speaker 6: Two.
Speaker 3: No one type of person was especially likely to have
Speaker 3: this experience. It cut across race, gender, age, education, marital status, etc. Three.
Speaker 3: Religious orientation was not a factor affecting the likelihood or
Speaker 3: the depth of a near death experience. An atheist was
Speaker 3: as likely to have one as a devoutly religious person. Four,
Speaker 3: regardless of their prior attitudes, whether skeptical or deeply religious,
Speaker 3: and regardless of the many variations in religious blas beliefs
Speaker 3: and a degree of skepticism, most of these people were
Speaker 3: convinced that they had been in the presence of some
Speaker 3: supreme and loving power and had a glimpse of the
Speaker 3: life yet to come. Five. Drugs, anesthesia and medication did
Speaker 3: not seem to be a factor in inducing these impressions
Speaker 3: and exquisite feelings of an ND. In fact, drugs and
Speaker 3: anesthesia seemed to be more likely to cause a person
Speaker 3: to forget memories of an ND. Number six. Doctor Ring
Speaker 3: definitely concluded that NDEs are not hallucinations because hallucinations are rambling, unconnected,
Speaker 3: often unintelligible, and very widely whereas near death experiences tend
Speaker 3: to have similar elements of a clear, connected pattern. Seven.
Speaker 3: Based on the information of those who had reported such incidents,
Speaker 3: the moment of death was often one of unparalleled beauty,
Speaker 3: peace and comfort, and a feeling of total love and acceptance.
Speaker 3: This was possible even for those involved in horrible accidents
Speaker 3: in which they suffered very serious injuries. Doctor Ring found
Speaker 3: that there was tremendous comfort potential in this information for
Speaker 3: people who were facing death. Eight After going through a
Speaker 3: near death experience, people reported a loss of fear of death,
Speaker 3: as well as a greater appreciation of life. They also
Speaker 3: reported stronger feelings of self acceptance and a greater concern
Speaker 3: and sense for caring for other people. They had less
Speaker 3: interest in material things for their own sake, many tended
Speaker 3: to be more spiritual, though not necessarily more involved in
Speaker 3: organized religion. And nine, almost all subjects who experienced a
Speaker 3: near death experience found their lives transformed and experienced a
Speaker 3: change in their attitudes and values, as well as their
Speaker 3: inclination to love and help others. Doctor Ring was convinced
Speaker 3: that these were absolutely authentic experiences and noted that since returning,
Speaker 3: many of them had occasion to think about what might
Speaker 3: have been, and their subsequent lives were powerful testimony to
Speaker 3: our common ability to live more deeply, to live with
Speaker 3: more gratitude, to live more lovingly and more spiritually. That
Speaker 3: goes hand in hand with the story we just heard.
Speaker 3: The next near death experience you're going to hear is
Speaker 3: just a quick one, just a few minutes. It's the
Speaker 3: story of Mary Joe rappini who describes herself as a
Speaker 3: stubborn atheist. She went through a near death experience after
Speaker 3: suffering a brain aneurysm. She is the wife and mother
Speaker 3: of two, and realized that all of the stories she
Speaker 3: had heard from other people in hospital situations were not
Speaker 3: necessarily caused by hallucinations. She's now a psychotherapist in private
Speaker 3: practice and a therapist at the Methodist Hospital in the
Speaker 3: Texas Medical Center. Rappinie found it therapeutic to write it
Speaker 3: all down. The result is her recently released a book
Speaker 3: titled is God Pink Dying to Heal.
Speaker 8: Usbin was by my bed and I saw that light
Speaker 8: and then I remember kind of looking at him, so
Speaker 8: I was like, okay, so I see this light, but
Speaker 8: I'm not dreaming. All of a sudden, I closed my
Speaker 8: eyes and I was thinking, is that the tunnel that
Speaker 8: the cancers used to tell me about?
Speaker 3: Because it is not impressive.
Speaker 8: It was so small, and then all of a sudden
Speaker 8: it came larger and I folded into it and I
Speaker 8: was in it. It's a incredibly warm, loving feeling and
Speaker 8: you're not afraid. It was just like I was moving
Speaker 8: through the tunnel. I don't remember my whole body being
Speaker 8: part of it. Nor do I remember really caring. I
Speaker 8: felt totally me, but I don't remember paying special attention.
Speaker 3: Like is my body going with me? Do I have
Speaker 3: eyes on my ears?
Speaker 8: I just remember going through it, and then I came
Speaker 8: out into this room.
Speaker 3: The room was magnificent.
Speaker 8: I shouldn't even say it was a room because I
Speaker 8: didn't see any walls, and nor did I see any limitations.
Speaker 8: But I had the sense it was a room. And
Speaker 8: it was a very brilliant color. There's not an earth
Speaker 8: color to say what it is. I call it pink,
Speaker 8: because you know, if you think a brilliant, you think harsh.
Speaker 8: This room was not harsh. It was soft, and mostly
Speaker 8: it was so accepting and loving. And I remember then
Speaker 8: that something holds me. I don't remember how I got there,
Speaker 8: but something is holding me because I can feel it
Speaker 8: physically around me. And it says, Mary Joe, you cannot stay,
Speaker 8: and I say why. First I was upset. I said what,
Speaker 8: and it said you cannot stay? And then I said why.
Speaker 8: And this voice that I don't see his face. I
Speaker 8: can't tell you what it looks like because I have
Speaker 8: no idea. It says to me, you can't stay because
Speaker 8: you have more to do.
Speaker 3: And I said more to do, and he goes, yes, you.
Speaker 8: Haven't given enough, and I said I haven't given enough.
Speaker 8: And I started talking about every human acolyte I could think.
Speaker 8: I started saying, you know, I work at that cancer center.
Speaker 8: I only get paid six hundred dollars a month. I'm
Speaker 8: on twenty four to seven call. There's nobody that can't
Speaker 8: call me in the middle of the night. And I
Speaker 8: actually answer the phone and talk to him everything possible
Speaker 8: that I could brag about on a tombstone.
Speaker 3: I talked to this.
Speaker 8: God about and then God says, well, let me ask
Speaker 8: you one question. Have you ever loved any person the
Speaker 8: way you've been loved in this short time here? And
Speaker 8: I said, no, no, it's impossible. I'm just a human.
Speaker 8: And it kind of chuckled. It wasn't human, but it
Speaker 8: was able to relate to me in a very human
Speaker 8: way that made me feel loved. And it wasn't laughing
Speaker 8: at me, but it was a chuckle. It had a
Speaker 8: playful edge or and it said you can do better.
Speaker 8: And then I remember waking up and Ron was crying,
Speaker 8: and he's got this form of what they give you
Speaker 8: when you're going to have to have surgery.
Speaker 3: And he's like, Mary, you know we got to go
Speaker 3: over this form.
Speaker 8: I need to know that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 8: And then Ron goes, Mary, listen, you know you could die.
Speaker 8: You're really sick and they're going to have to do
Speaker 8: surgery on you. And I said, you know what, I'm
Speaker 8: not going to die because I just talked to God
Speaker 8: and he won't let me.
Speaker 3: God won't let her die. And I think for your
Speaker 3: time and my time, we don't get to go yet either.
Speaker 3: I love that we have more to do. We haven't
Speaker 3: given enough, and have we loved another person the way
Speaker 3: we can imagine being loved in the hereafter. There's several
Speaker 3: of these near death experiences that it seems like God
Speaker 3: or the divine has a sense of humor. I love
Speaker 3: the words, you can do better. I'm definitely not the
Speaker 3: judge or jury on your life, only on my own.
Speaker 3: And here's the thing we have a question to ask
Speaker 3: ourselves while we're here. If our men is to serve
Speaker 3: and is to love, and is to make a difference
Speaker 3: with others? And when I say others, when we look
Speaker 3: in the mirror, we are one of those people. How
Speaker 3: are we doing on that mission? It doesn't matter what
Speaker 3: day it is, what time it is, It's never too
Speaker 3: late to start applying love all over. And yes, that
Speaker 3: means even to people we don't like and that we
Speaker 3: don't agree with. Human nature wants us to gossip and
Speaker 3: get involved with maybe bad mouthing, and that's just part
Speaker 3: of our human dna, I think. But we can rise
Speaker 3: above it. Mother Teresa gave some great framework that I
Speaker 3: think might help. She said, let no one ever come
Speaker 3: to you without leaving better and happier. Be the living
Speaker 3: expression of God's kindness. Kindness in your face, kindness in
Speaker 3: your eyes, kindness in your smile. And as our first
Speaker 3: story told us, the importance of gratitude. So we're talking
Speaker 3: about anxiety, we're talking about fear. My dad told me
Speaker 3: ninety percent of the things we fear never happen, and
Speaker 3: of the ten percent that happen, most of them aren't
Speaker 3: nearly as bad as we imagined them to be. When
Speaker 3: we come back from the break, we'll hear one more
Speaker 3: near death experience. But I want you to really contemplate
Speaker 3: that around you right now is a powerful group of souls,
Speaker 3: your loved ones, inspirers, all cheering you on so that
Speaker 3: you get your money's worth out of living your life
Speaker 3: here on earth. We are so much more powerful than
Speaker 3: we know. And what would it be like, even in
Speaker 3: the face of fear, to walk right through it and
Speaker 3: go after our dreams. We'll be right back. You're listening
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Speaker 3: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain
Speaker 3: and our last story of the day comes from Ellen Weir.
Speaker 3: Her journey began at the age of twelve, when a
Speaker 3: horseback riding accident left her in a coma, teetering on
Speaker 3: the brink of life and death.
Speaker 6: I was a normal child growing up, a normal girl.
Speaker 6: Loved horses and loved to ride. And when I was
Speaker 6: twelve years old, I went to my first Western lesson.
Speaker 6: I'd written English for so long, so I went to
Speaker 6: my first Western lesson, and it turns out they didn't
Speaker 6: tighten the sense enough. When I was riding and the
Speaker 6: since slipped and I was riding for a while underneath
Speaker 6: the horse fell off the horse and then it reared
Speaker 6: up and kicked me in the temple. I was taken
Speaker 6: to a local hospital in Hillsboro, Texas, and was found
Speaker 6: that I was in a coma. So then I was
Speaker 6: taken to Waco Hospital in the Dallas Fort WORTHA area
Speaker 6: and given a team of doctors, one of which who
Speaker 6: had worked on JFK. Oddly enough, but I was in
Speaker 6: the coma for five days, and my parents were told
Speaker 6: to try and inspire my brain to kind of have
Speaker 6: some stimulation by playing movies. And they were playing my
Speaker 6: childhood favorite movies, Disney movies at my bedside and Home
Speaker 6: movies and things. It was from that point that I
Speaker 6: went into my near death experience and was taken to
Speaker 6: the other side. Basically, I found myself on a raft,
Speaker 6: and the raft was wooden and was floating on what
Speaker 6: I would call pink clouds. And in front of me
Speaker 6: was who I knew to be, Jesus because that's the
Speaker 6: faith that I grew up in. And on my left
Speaker 6: there was a man who was young and thin and
Speaker 6: bald with long brown robes. I didn't know who he was,
Speaker 6: but he felt familiar and comfortable and safe to me,
Speaker 6: almost as if he were protecting me, and felt completely
Speaker 6: loved just before moving into this place of light. So
Speaker 6: I went from the raft into this place of being
Speaker 6: surrounded by white light, bright light, but also colors, and
Speaker 6: imagined like wonderful, beautiful colors all around music playing. That
Speaker 6: was short lived, because at some point I felt this
Speaker 6: light around my body, which wasn't my real body but
Speaker 6: was my light body. It felt warm and weighted and
Speaker 6: beautiful and kind of like a comforting hug, right, and
Speaker 6: then I just melted into and became the love. Everything
Speaker 6: else went away and I was just completely one with
Speaker 6: this light and this love. It was the most beautifully
Speaker 6: profound experience of my life. But I can't even say
Speaker 6: it was an experience I had in my life, because
Speaker 6: it was an otherworldly experience. And then I don't know
Speaker 6: how long I was there. I don't know how long
Speaker 6: I was connected, but I was taken back to the wrath,
Speaker 6: and it was on that raft that I was connected
Speaker 6: with so much information about not only my path, but
Speaker 6: our path as humans and why we're here. And then
Speaker 6: I could see the trajectory of my parents and my family.
Speaker 6: So many things came into my knowing. But I remember
Speaker 6: knowing that every person here has a purpose, everyone has
Speaker 6: a plan. We are divinely guided and led, and our
Speaker 6: goal is to surrender to that and trust that and
Speaker 6: have faith, and also to connect with our higher self
Speaker 6: so that we are living in the greatest good. And
Speaker 6: I remember again recognizing that all the things that we
Speaker 6: spend our mind thinking about, like we spend our time
Speaker 6: thinking about on earth, all these worries and concerns and
Speaker 6: stresses and fears, they actually get in the way of
Speaker 6: living our purpose in our life. I remember thinking, when
Speaker 6: I came out of my comment and I was living again,
Speaker 6: I would have these thoughts and they would come into
Speaker 6: my head, you know, maybe fear or unworthiness, and I
Speaker 6: would instantly know how to let it go and that
Speaker 6: it didn't matter and it was false. And I lived
Speaker 6: in that knowing for so long. And I think that
Speaker 6: in this time especially, people will have these fears and
Speaker 6: they will hold them back because as we connect fear
Speaker 6: with thoughts, we actually create more of that in our lives,
Speaker 6: because what we think is our reality. So that was
Speaker 6: a really big piece for me. Also, this living and
Speaker 6: gratitude was a huge part of this experience. I came
Speaker 6: out knowing that every night as I went to sleep,
Speaker 6: I needed to give thanks for this opportunity to be here.
Speaker 6: Where there is gratitude, there's no room for fear, there's
Speaker 6: no room for hate or discord. It is all love.
Speaker 6: When we really feel that and we feel the expansion
Speaker 6: of our heart and we give complete gratitude forgetting to
Speaker 6: be here, that is when we are truly connecting to
Speaker 6: the higher self and to source. So that was another
Speaker 6: big piece and I recognize and have since had many messages.
Speaker 6: I've been working with what I call angelic or light
Speaker 6: beings ever since I came out of my coma. I
Speaker 6: will see the places and around people and informations and
Speaker 6: their comfort and the guidance that they give is true
Speaker 6: and real, that we really are protected and guided. And
Speaker 6: after receiving all this information, which I was given the
Speaker 6: choice that I could either stay there or I could live,
Speaker 6: and I remember on some level wanting to stay because
Speaker 6: I loved the connection and the love and everything else disappeared.
Speaker 6: All my human worries about everything didn't matter right, and
Speaker 6: I recognized on that raft that they didn't matter anyway,
Speaker 6: that so much that we think about and spend our
Speaker 6: time giving energy to is not what it's about. It
Speaker 6: was then that I was taken into a transformative immersive
Speaker 6: music experience. As I chose to stay and to come back,
Speaker 6: I remember telling them I want to use music for healing,
Speaker 6: and I explained I want to be a healer. And
Speaker 6: it was at that moment that I felt an overwhelming
Speaker 6: surge of gratitude that I got to come back and
Speaker 6: I got to live, and I knew that it was
Speaker 6: a gift, and I knew that I had something to give,
Speaker 6: and I knew I had purpose, And that's when I
Speaker 6: was taken back into the darkness. But the darkness that
Speaker 6: I went into was a warm darkness, a comforting darkness,
Speaker 6: and I saw a music staff in the distance, just
Speaker 6: the staff, and every note was a different color on
Speaker 6: the staff, and I could see the notes moving, but
Speaker 6: I couldn't hear anything. So I just watched it, and
Speaker 6: it got closer and closer and closer, bigger and bigger,
Speaker 6: until I kind of moved through the staff and it
Speaker 6: was gone. But then in its place it was a
Speaker 6: very very faint sound, almost inaudible, almost untouchable, like a
Speaker 6: little pinprick of light. I point to the lower right,
Speaker 6: That's where I kind of visualize it, tiny pinprick, and
Speaker 6: I focused so hard on that music. I just pulled
Speaker 6: it in as much as I could. It came into
Speaker 6: my mind until it was booming in my head, and
Speaker 6: I opened my eyes and there I was in the ICU.
Speaker 6: A nurse came running over, and then I slipped back
Speaker 6: out of consciousness. But the next thing I remember was
Speaker 6: I was being moved to a regular bed. They were
Speaker 6: calling it a miracle. They said that no other person
Speaker 6: in the state of Texas had ever survived that type
Speaker 6: of head injury at that state that I was in,
Speaker 6: other than one other child. She was fourteen, but she
Speaker 6: was disabled for life, and then I knew that all
Speaker 6: the information I received on that raft, which was that
Speaker 6: we all have purpose. It's the most vivid memory I
Speaker 6: have in my life, and now I live. Everything that
Speaker 6: I do has to go back to that experience. Does
Speaker 6: it relate, does it connect to that experience on the
Speaker 6: other side, and how can I help others connect to
Speaker 6: that as well.
Speaker 3: It's interesting what I've learned about near death experience is
Speaker 3: it's not just the experience itself that transforms a life,
Speaker 3: but it's the after effects. People go on to live
Speaker 3: a whole different kind of life, and it almost seems
Speaker 3: like things that happen in the near death experience continue
Speaker 3: to open up. I spoke to Ellen Weir, who had
Speaker 3: this last experience just recently, and she was telling me
Speaker 3: how her life has unfolded. She's put together a book
Speaker 3: called Waking Up in Heaven, Living with Purpose through After
Speaker 3: Life Wisdom. Ellen, like any others, have turned their lives
Speaker 3: into making a difference, and Allen is passionate about helping
Speaker 3: people tap into our own inner wisdom, creating our own reality.
Speaker 3: And she's big into music. I'm excited to read her
Speaker 3: book and just see how music plays a part in
Speaker 3: connecting us to our divine selves and to the other side.
Speaker 3: This episode has been about fear anxiety, learning from near
Speaker 3: death experiences so that we know there's a bigger picture
Speaker 3: and that we are always supported. If there's something you're
Speaker 3: really struggling with, try to get out of your mind
Speaker 3: and into action. When we can put all of our
Speaker 3: concentration on what it is we're doing. Next thing, you know,
Speaker 3: that thing you fear is a thing of the past,
Speaker 3: and it is done. One of the craziest things I
Speaker 3: did to overcome some fear. Believe it or not, I
Speaker 3: didn't like dining in a restaurant alone. God forbid me
Speaker 3: taking a trip by myself. I was given a challenge.
Speaker 3: I chose to take it, and I booked myself a
Speaker 3: flight to Hawaii. The girl that didn't want to go
Speaker 3: out to eat by myself was suddenly going on a
Speaker 3: four day vacation by myself. I brought my guidebook, I
Speaker 3: rented a car, checked into the hotel, and something miraculous happened.
Speaker 3: I started meeting people who became friends for life, all
Speaker 3: by me taking a chance. What did I realize that
Speaker 3: all of us human beings were just the same for
Speaker 3: people with our own hopes and fears and dreams, that
Speaker 3: if we can get out of our own heads, set
Speaker 3: that ego aside, and look into someone's eyes, we realize
Speaker 3: their divine souls too, and that we're never alone. I
Speaker 3: want to do a shout out to some super fans.
Speaker 3: Ramona from Germany has emailed and messaged me often. She's
Speaker 3: one of the show's biggest fans. She says, a shout
Speaker 3: out to Beth and Colorado, and last a shout out
Speaker 3: to Richard in Elkhart, Indiana. Richard recently wrote me, having
Speaker 3: heard about Shades of the Afterlife on Coast to Coast
Speaker 3: AM when George Nori mentioned it. Richard has listened to
Speaker 3: all episodes of Shades of the Afterlife in forty five days. He,
Speaker 3: you may agree, is a superfan. So Richard, thank you
Speaker 3: so much for listening. And if you two are a superfan,
Speaker 3: even if it's not listening in forty five days and
Speaker 3: you've heard all or most of Shades of the Afterlife,
Speaker 3: I'd love to hear about it. You can email me
Speaker 3: Sandra Champlain at gmail dot com. Well, my friend, our
Speaker 3: time together is nearing to an end. Don't forget to
Speaker 3: come visit me at We Dontdie dot com. To experience
Speaker 3: the power of your soul, try taking a class with us.
Speaker 3: We have the new medium class Soul to Soul Communication.
Speaker 3: There's nothing quite like experiencing how your soul receives information.
Speaker 3: We also have our free Sunday gathering of course with
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Speaker 3: to eight thousand members. I think, and so much more.
Speaker 3: In closing, I'm Sandra Champlain. Don't be afraid. You are
Speaker 3: divinely guided, protected, and you have a guide right over
Speaker 3: your shoulder and so much love from the unseen world.
Speaker 3: Thank you for listening to Shades of the Afterlife on
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