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Speaker 1: What a game. Will dive into that in one second

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Speaker 1: with I'm a big believer in college football. In college football,

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Speaker 1: or four scores in the second half, you just don't

424
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Speaker 1: really get to celebrate. You just don't you know that

425
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Speaker 1: there are still some unwritten rules that you can make

426
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Speaker 1: yourself look like an idiot. You really can. And I

427
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Speaker 1: thought Deshaun Watson, for the first time ever since I've

428
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Speaker 1: been watching him, I've watched them closely since college ever,

429
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Speaker 1: kind of embarrassed himself and it was a bad look.

430
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Speaker 1: And it's one of those you don't have to publicize

431
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Speaker 1: or anything. But I think if you're billball Brian, you

432
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 1: sit down to him and you just I don't know

433
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Speaker 1: if that's the time, man, because even quarterbacks, even young

434
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,360
Speaker 1: successful quarterbacks, need some coaching and need to be told

435
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 1: sometimes yeah that's not right. Uh. We all, you know,

436
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 1: even the most mature humans can do immature things. Uh.

437
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 1: And Deshaun Watson still two, however old he is, he's

438
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,199
Speaker 1: still young, so to think that he is just absolved

439
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 1: from doing immature stuff. He's a guy, and we're as guys,

440
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 1: as competitive men, we do stupid ship. I mean, that's

441
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 1: just just a reality that was stupid and I thought

442
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 1: it was beyond a terrible look. I'm glad Steve Smith

443
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 1: saw it. I think a lot of players saw it,

444
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 1: and I know Jalen Ramsey tweeted like, be you bro

445
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,120
Speaker 1: have a personality. Like hey, Jalen, no one's telling him

446
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 1: not to have a personality. But when you're getting blasted

447
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 1: in the mouth by a team in your division, which

448
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,880
Speaker 1: is just kicking your butt in a home playoff game

449
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: that you've earned, that ain't the time. That ain't it? Okay,

450
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 1: let's get into a an interesting situation, right. The information

451
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 1: I have as of right now on around lunchtime records

452
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 1: some of this before the National Championship game on Monday,

453
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:23,640
Speaker 1: is that John Harbaugh the latest is that Ian rap

454
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 1: sheet said they're gonna work on extension and that John

455
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 1: Harbaugh is going to be extended. I think it's kind

456
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,640
Speaker 1: of clear that the Dolphins, the Broncos, they're very interested

457
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,119
Speaker 1: in John Harbaugh. John Harbaugh, now that he proved that

458
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: he could win with this other guy has a bunch

459
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Speaker 1: of leverage, like the Ravens. The going rate for John

460
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 1: Harbaugh and Steve Bushatti. John Gruden got ten million bucks.

461
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll sign an extension at eleven million dollars. John

462
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,400
Speaker 1: Harbaugh at minimum is getting eleven million bucks. So you're

463
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Speaker 1: talking about four or five years at probably twelve million

464
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Speaker 1: per So, I mean you might be talking like four

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Speaker 1: million or were years forty eight million dollar extension you

466
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,159
Speaker 1: know what the year left on his deal here, So

467
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 1: you're talking a lot of cash. Now that's the going rate.

468
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 1: I personally think and and people that have listened to this,

469
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,360
Speaker 1: the coaches are underpaid. But when you look at John Harbaugh.

470
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Speaker 1: When I worked in the league, I didn't have a

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00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 1: great feel for this. I was so young. I didn't

472
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Speaker 1: have any leverage. You know, I had to sign contracts

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Speaker 1: that I can't even imagin I don't even know how

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Speaker 1: I lived, uh maybe making no money. I had no leverage.

475
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 1: I only knew the people in the league that I

476
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 1: worked with. It was you know, if they offered you

477
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 1: fifty dollars to scout, you just took the job. You know.

478
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 1: My my entry level into the job was nothing. These

479
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 1: coaches and exact. Some of them gain a lot of leverage.

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00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 1: Uh the longer in any business, you can create more leverage.

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00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 1: And now John Harbaugh has a ton of leverage, but

482
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 1: he also should know this. And I've learned this since

483
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:49,919
Speaker 1: getting in the media. And now I you know, I

484
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 1: have a I have a separate podcast from this. I

485
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 1: do with a good buddy of mine, Guy Hayberman. That's

486
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 1: you know, gonna be the Marve Albert one day of

487
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 1: play by play. He's just fantastic in his early thirties,

488
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 1: went to high school together. We own the podcast together.

489
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 1: So I sell a lot of partnerships. I do a

490
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 1: periscope show through Twitter that I've sold partnerships through through

491
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 1: I've just done other business deals through advertising, and I've

492
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 1: one something that I've lost them and I've realized through

493
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 1: that experience. Nothing like the John Harbot twelve million dollars

494
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,919
Speaker 1: a year, but I have known on a smaller scale,

495
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 1: and it's it's all relative to what you make that

496
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 1: you're only as strong as the partners you align with,

497
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 1: whether you do a podcast with someone, whether you go

498
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Speaker 1: into business with someone with a contract you signed with

499
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 1: someone where in football, Ozzi Knewsom just retired, he would

500
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: basically be signing his contract to do a partnership. Now

501
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 1: I get you make He's gonna make money regardless. That's

502
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,639
Speaker 1: at the point, like my business personally is at the

503
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 1: point where I'm still kind of I have to hustle

504
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 1: to keep getting advertisers in different things that I do.

505
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 1: Like it's not just a self sustaining ship, which again

506
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 1: it's kind of fun, you know, it's it's a challenge

507
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 1: in this profession that I've chosen. Just like John Harbot

508
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: fifteen years ago was an up and coming assistant, it

509
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: takes time. Well, now he's got to the point where

510
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,199
Speaker 1: he's got a ton of options he could tell people know.

511
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: That's a powerful thing whenever you have in a contract

512
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: negotiation ability to tell people know. But I also think

513
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 1: you have the ability to look at who you want

514
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 1: to align yourself with and with the Ravens if he

515
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 1: signs on, and again as of right now he hasn't

516
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: signed on, and even if he signs on, it won't

517
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Speaker 1: really change this. My take on this, why would you

518
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Speaker 1: sign up long term when you have options and you're

519
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 1: gonna get paid no matter what to do a deal

520
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:44,360
Speaker 1: with Lamar Jackson, What Lamar Jackson is doing is not sustainable.

521
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: Like I've been saying it all along. If you consistently

522
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 1: watch him, he can't can't make basic passes like a

523
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 1: basic third and eight, a nine yard out route. He

524
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: can't complete it on a you know, a third and

525
00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: long that they don't trust him. Now one day can

526
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: he developed into that. I'm not writing against him, And

527
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: just because I didn't like him coming out doesn't mean

528
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: if he becomes a good player, I won't tip my

529
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:12,199
Speaker 1: hat to him. I'm never, uh, you know, married to

530
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Speaker 1: an opinion on a player, Like if I like a guy,

531
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Speaker 1: or if I don't like a guy and then that

532
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,919
Speaker 1: guy becomes good, I go God, good for him, especially

533
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 1: when they're good people like Lamar Jackson. Clearly, everyone that

534
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 1: I knew that evaluated him and met him coming out,

535
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 1: he's a good guy. So I root for guys. I

536
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 1: didn't like Teddy Bridgewater. I loved him as a person,

537
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,360
Speaker 1: I just didn't like him as a player. I root

538
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: for his comeback story. I'm rooting for him now. Did

539
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: I ever like him as a first round pick? No,

540
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: But I remember being in a Raider game and watching

541
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater. This young fan walked by and no one

542
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: was paying attention. It was way pre game and I'm

543
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: handing him his gloves and saw the excitement and the

544
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: like Teddy Bridgewater and again that's you'll be like, well,

545
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: that's yeah, and it was just cool like Teddy. I

546
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: like Teddy Bridge. I like Lamar Jackson. I don't think

547
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: he's very good. And I know this as a coach.

548
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 1: If I was in Jim John harbosh you was, I

549
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: would not tie myself to that guy. He's too nichee.

550
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh, his brother, did something similar with Kaepernick, and

551
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: Kaepernick was way better than Lamar Jackson. He had a

552
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: much stronger arm, he was a more explosive straight line runner.

553
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: He was just bigger, stronger, more powerful. He was just better.

554
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: And that ultimately the next year Jim Harbaugh, I guess

555
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: it might have been his third year because Kaepernick came

556
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: in for Alex Smith. In the first year, they went

557
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl. The second year full time starter

558
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: goes to the NFC Championship. By the third year, starting

559
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: Jim and Greg Roman the offensive staff, they tried to

560
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 1: run a more normal offense that wasn't just pistol oriented

561
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: because you had to be diversified four or five wide

562
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: and just a modern spread attacking passing game, and he

563
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,959
Speaker 1: couldn't do it because he wasn't accurate enough. So if

564
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: I'm John Harbaugh and I'm gonna get in bed with someone,

565
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: whether it's the Dolphins, I'm not even saying the Dolphins

566
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: or the Denver, he could probably pick multiple other spots. Hell,

567
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 1: he could just not sign a contract tension and just

568
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: kind of go Joe Flacco next year. Let it play out.

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Speaker 1: It's why I always say when people you know, John

570
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: Elway this weekend I think blocked coach some assistant coaches

571
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: from interviewing and other jobs, and social media freaked out like,

572
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: how could he do that to those guys. Well, here's

573
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: how when you're an assistant coach and scouts are the

574
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: same way, and you sign a multi year deal, and

575
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: anyone in business can relate because most of you, guys,

576
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: as I kind of am now, you just at will

577
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 1: employees or you're just at will of a business. Deal

578
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: can be broken at any moment. When you sign a

579
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Speaker 1: two or three year contract. That's for financial security. Well,

580
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Speaker 1: one of the things you give up with financial security

581
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: is power to go wherever you want. In your industry.

582
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 1: So if you're an assistant coach and you signed a

583
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: two year deal and on the second year, you know,

584
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: after the first year your head coach gets fired, that

585
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: team still owns your rights, but they also still owe

586
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: you if they fire you. That's part of the leverage

587
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: in the contract. If I'm John Harbaugh, I go, I

588
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 1: don't know if I want to be the Raven long

589
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: term coach because I wouldn't want to get in bed

590
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: with Lamar Jackson. I have somewhat of an example with

591
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: my own brother that it's really hard to coach these

592
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: type guys on the field, not as people like. That

593
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: was before Kaepernick started kneeling. That's when he was like

594
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: the highest character guy on the team and everyone liked him.

595
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: That was before we started, you know where his earphones

596
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: and lunch or whatever. Like everyone loves Lamar Jackson, and

597
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: I don't blame them, But as a player, which really matters,

598
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: Like you want to get in bed with Andrew Luck

599
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: not literally, you know what, I'm so figuratively you want

600
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: to go all in on Mahomes. You want to go

601
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: all in. It's risky, like the golf, the Mitch Robinsky,

602
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: the decks, some of these guys are risky, just this

603
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: nature of the sport. You know, Jimmy Garoppolo, the fort

604
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: Nighters went all in with him. He towards a c O.

605
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,959
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of variables to all of this,

606
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 1: but on the most basic level, can you consistently win

607
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: playoff games with this quarterback? And if you're gonna sign

608
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: a long term extension when you have a ton of options,

609
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if I wouldn't do that if I

610
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 1: was him. And again he has kind of insider knowledge

611
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: of this because he has family ties to a similar situation. Now,

612
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: the Ravens a little more consistent of an organization, but

613
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: they're also losing Ozzy newsom I would recommend, Like, if

614
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do a partnership and this, people are gonna

615
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: be like, oh, I think John Elway is pretty good.

616
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: Now they have ownership issues with the Bowling family and suing,

617
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: and I get there probably question marks there. But if

618
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Speaker 1: I'm John Hardball and I don't mind moving, and listen,

619
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Speaker 1: you're talking to someone that doesn't like moving. Done it

620
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: a couple of times, have zero aspiration to ever do

621
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: it again. So but that's Coaches are a little different.

622
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: But John has had a pretty stable NFL career coach

623
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: for the Eagles for ten years and he's coached for

624
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: the Ravens for ten years. So in twenty years, hardball

625
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: has had to move. Like I've made the drive from

626
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: Philly to Baltimore. It's like, I don't know our twenty

627
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: minutes out and a half. Hell, it might not even

628
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: be that long. I think that drive to d C,

629
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: no traffic is a couple hours. So it's he hasn't

630
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: had to move far in twenty years. It's unheard of,

631
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: you know, coaching career. Him and like Andy Reid have

632
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: moved the least in the last twenty years in the

633
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: NFL and Belichick, most people are moving around, like Kyle Shanahan,

634
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Speaker 1: you know he's been like six different teams in the

635
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Speaker 1: last ten years. That's usually the way that professional works.

636
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: They're also highly paid for it. But my number one

637
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: recommendation always is whenever you get into a partnership, and

638
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: partnerships are really important, probably more than ever in modern

639
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: day business because you need other people more than ever

640
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: given you know how much things cost in our world business.

641
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: But it's no different football, Like who you taught who

642
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: are you signing to deal with as your general manager?

643
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: And your quarterback is really really important. It will dictate

644
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Speaker 1: your future success. Okay, let's dive into the Dallas Cowboys

645
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: and their quarterback back Prescott, which I think mainly because

646
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: it's the Cowboys, but I I do think it's fair

647
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: to say he's one of the more polarizing quarterbacks in

648
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Speaker 1: the NFL. Is he good or is he not good? Uh?

649
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: And I'm leaning on the side the more I've watched

650
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: him this year that he's pretty good. Uh. And he's

651
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: definitely someone that I would build a round and attempt

652
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: to make my franchise quarterback. And I think we have

653
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: to be careful at this. Most people in life, uh,

654
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: you know, no different football or not. Don't just hit

655
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: the ground running and dominate from day one at anything

656
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,919
Speaker 1: we do. And speaking from a guy's perspective, certain people

657
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: mature physically mentally at all different rates, even people at

658
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:24,320
Speaker 1: the heights of their profession. Dak Prescott started at quarterback

659
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: for several years in Mississippi State, took that program that's

660
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,879
Speaker 1: a po dunk middle of nowhere, just does nothing. At

661
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: one point in time, they were a top five program.

662
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: Remember a senior year, and he became and has become

663
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: a very solid NFL quarterback drafted in the middle rounds.

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Speaker 1: Not every quarterback is Andrew Luck or hell even Carson

665
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 1: Wentz that just dominates by year one or two. Some

666
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 1: guys take time, And I think the guy Dak Prescott

667
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 1: played is a great example. Russell Wilson was not good

668
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 1: to like year three or four. He wasn't even like

669
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 1: the top ten best player on his team the first

670
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:00,399
Speaker 1: couple of years. The first time he wants to bowl,

671
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: he was probably worse than that. Like not not everyone

672
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 1: is just ready to, you know, start a business at

673
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 1: twenty two years old. Some people may not be ready

674
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 1: until the fifty. But that guy at fifty maybe one

675
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: of the best business leaders we've ever seen. Like I

676
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: remember going to high school with a guy named Casey Newman,

677
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: and every morning he was going on a swimming scholarship

678
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 1: to Stanford. Just an unreal swimmer. But I remember having

679
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: class with him. He'd have to work out like five

680
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,919
Speaker 1: thirty in the morning, and then he would work out

681
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: extra at night and he do his homework. He was

682
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: a genius. Obviously he's going to Stanford. I was not

683
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 1: in the back of my head. I never admitted this

684
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: at the time, Like, how can I compete against this

685
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,280
Speaker 1: guy in life? He's just on a different level. Now

686
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: fifteen years later. You know, now at eighteen, I was

687
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 1: nowhere close to that. Hell, in my early twenties, I

688
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: was a pretty immature guy. I would say I grew

689
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 1: just massively from a maturation standpoint, from just in my

690
00:35:55,440 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: business and just in life like after Like my greatest

691
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: growth as a human has been like twenty eight through

692
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: right now, and I hopefully continue to grow some people though,

693
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 1: you know, crush it day one leaving college. Hell, start

694
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 1: businesses in college. Just like some players and quarterbacks and

695
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 1: NBA stars are greatest rookies, you know, some guys like

696
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: Steph Curry takes them a little time. You know, not

697
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 1: not everyone operates at the same speed, but the goal

698
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 1: is to get to the same finish line, and ultimately

699
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: I think Dak I personally kind of compare him to

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Speaker 1: some version of Russell Wilson and Cam Newton. He has

701
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: a lot of similarities to Russell in the sense that calm, cool, collected,

702
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: very mature. He also has some physical gifts that I

703
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 1: would relate to Cam Newton when he runs. He can

704
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 1: run people over, and he's a smart runner. He doesn't

705
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 1: always look to run neither, just Cam. Now you can

706
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: design runs. I'm just talking about dropbacks. When he ends

707
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:59,439
Speaker 1: up scrambling, he will run through tackles, which eventually could

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00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: be a concern. But he's also like Cam Verry hit

709
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: or misspasser, Like sometimes he'll make a pass like he

710
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 1: did in that playoff game where you're like, that is

711
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: a dime and other players will be like, how do

712
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,720
Speaker 1: you miss that guy? He's wide open? And again it's

713
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: because he's young. He was not a Polish player when

714
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: he came into the NFL. He hasn't played around that

715
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Speaker 1: many skill guys. Beside, he's running back, which doesn't factor

716
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 1: in as much as a thrower. So when I look

717
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: at Dak Prescott, I go, God, this guy has a

718
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 1: lot of room for growth. If we could just exponentially improve,

719
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 1: like slowly. You don't have to overnight improve from point

720
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: A to point F. You just gotta get from point

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Speaker 1: A to point B, you know, complete an extra two

722
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: balls a game and then one day, maybe in five years,

723
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: that number went two to five. And that's kind of

724
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: where Russell Wilson has grown now, Russell is still somewhat flawed.

725
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: Now he's a much better player than Dak, but he's

726
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 1: not quote unquote the perfect quarterback. But anyone with a

727
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 1: brain knew by like his set year, there is a

728
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: lot to work with there. Now. It took like it wasn'

729
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: until year five or six that Russell became the best

730
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,919
Speaker 1: player on his team. It's okay that year three, Dac

731
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: is nowhere near the best player on his own team.

732
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: That's okay. I don't even think you need to pay

733
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Speaker 1: him after this offseason. You can just pay him after

734
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 1: next offseason. You can let him slowly work into it.

735
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: Kaepernick is a good example, Like it took him some time.

736
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Speaker 1: He got to red shirt and then he came in

737
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: the middle of the second year. He wouldn't have been

738
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: ready right off the bat. Some guys are though, you know.

739
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: I mean, Derek Carr was lucky he got to start

740
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 1: right away. He wasn't that good as a rookie, but

741
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: it was clear he saw a rookie like there's something

742
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,919
Speaker 1: to work with. Jimmy Garoppolo, like he was a second

743
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,760
Speaker 1: round pick, but he got to sit for a while

744
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: and then he came to San Francisco kind of ready made.

745
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: Like we expect all these quarterbacks just like we do

746
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 1: in life, Like every human is the same mentally and

747
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 1: with maturity and people listening to this, Now, when you

748
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 1: hire someone, some certain people are just more ready. Now

749
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that the upside of another individual isn't higher.

750
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 1: Sometimes two years into a job, he might go, God,

751
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: I'm glad I hired that guy. He was terrible at first,

752
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: but he had a lot of room for growth. That's

753
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: kind of the way I look at myself as an employee.

754
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: I'm not to hit the ground running guy. I gotta

755
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: feel things out, I gotta learn on the job, and

756
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 1: then I get stronger as we go. You know, I'm

757
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: not I'm never gonna be the smartest guy in the room,

758
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: for example, And I'm not comparing myself to a quarterback,

759
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: but I can relate, like Doc is never going to

760
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: be the most physically gifted, but he clearly has a

761
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: lot of attributes that really parallel, you know, success in

762
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 1: the NFL. Now, one thing he has to improve is

763
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: hitting basic throws. But I saw Russell Wilson dramatically improve

764
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: over a three or four year period. That's really the

765
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 1: knock why and again this is a political statement. Why

766
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: Kaepernick kind of washed out of the league beside being

767
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: black balled. Don't get me wrong, I believe he was

768
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: black balled, but he wasn't accurate and he never got

769
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: any more accurate, like Russell Wilson has just slowly gotten

770
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: more accurate, and he's a a deep ball thrower like

771
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 1: Doc does need to improve on something beside his legs.

772
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 1: But I do think that you don't need to be

773
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,280
Speaker 1: Bill Walsh to realize there is a lot to work

774
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: with there. And he's lucky that he's on a team

775
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 1: with a lot of talented players, just like at one

776
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 1: point in time, Russell Wilson was lucky that he was

777
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: on a team with a lot of talented players. Hell,

778
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: I've said it all along. Cam Newton has never even

779
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: been the best player on his own team. That's okay.

780
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: Like if Zeke's always there and DeMarcus Lawrence and a Maori,

781
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: that's fine. You know. Now it gets a little more

782
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 1: complicated when you pay him a lot of money. But

783
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Speaker 1: I think it's so clear the deck's ceiling is really high.

784
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,760
Speaker 1: It just takes a little longer. He wasn't a ready

785
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 1: made project when you got him. There's a reason you

786
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: drafted him in the fourth round. Not every twenty two

787
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: year old you hire a fresh out of college is

788
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: gonna be a great first year employee. But and some

789
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,439
Speaker 1: might be better than others, but certain guys are gonna

790
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 1: have way more upside, you know. And it's to me,

791
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 1: it's pretty clear that the upside on Doc is really high.

792
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 1: I believe in the player, and I'm not I actually

793
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: like them to win in l A this weekend. Uh.

794
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: Not necessarily because of him, more Zeke and their defense,

795
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: But I like the guy. I think he's bringing a

796
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: lot to a table, and it's pretty clear he's good.

797
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: Is he great? No? Is he worth an enormous contract

798
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 1: at this point in time? Probably not. I'd like to

799
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: wait a year, but I do think at one point

800
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: in time in the near future, might be two more

801
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: years or three more years, he will be worth it.

802
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: I would bet on Dak Prescott continuing to get better. Okay,

803
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 1: let's uh, let's get to the Middlecoff mail bag. You

804
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 1: can slide up in those d M s at John

805
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 1: Middlecoff and I answer questions, questions Ari Kingsbury and USC

806
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: I'd be Cliff Kingsbury. Sorry I clicked on the wrong button.

807
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: How do you see it playing out for Kingsbury? I

808
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 1: can't imagine you'd want to stay with USC for long.

809
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: I hear he's contemplating paying the buy out to leave.

810
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 1: I think we're all here in that on the internet.

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00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:01,320
Speaker 1: And Swan refused to let an NFL teams interview. I

812
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: think we all kind of know the story. Basically, this

813
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 1: question is where do you stand on this issue? I'm torn? Uh, Like, listen,

814
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: you took the job, and I think Kingsbury took the job.

815
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 1: He had some idea that NFL teams wanted to talk

816
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 1: to him, But what does the wise man tell you?

817
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: A bird in the hands better than two in the bush.

818
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: So I get why you take the job, But the

819
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: moment NFL teams want to interview him for their head coach,

820
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: I don't think Lynn Swan first should block him and

821
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: that Cliff Kingsbury shouldn't be interested in interviewing. And I

822
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: saw Colin tweeted about it earlier today. It's Monday, and

823
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 1: he was just saying how like Coward was saying he

824
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 1: was old school and he believes once you signed a contract,

825
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: you know you should be president of that job and

826
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: listen up for I agree with that sediment and really

827
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: that logic in theory, but I am a believer of

828
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 1: the really truly the person that cares the most about

829
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: you as you. So you always have to be willing

830
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 1: to do the best, uh do things the best in

831
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: your interests, and sometimes it's not always kind to others,

832
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 1: maybe your employer at the time, maybe to some of

833
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: your fellow co workers. But I also think this one's

834
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: kind of black and white. He took the USC offensive

835
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: coordinator job, which in theory is a great job. Obviously

836
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,720
Speaker 1: it's a little overrated right now, but that NFL teams

837
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 1: wanted to interview him to be their head coach, to

838
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: be their head coach. Like, name me another offensive coordinator

839
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 1: in college at school x Texas, Oklahoma. I'm not saying

840
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: the head coach. I'm saying the head coach is offensive coordinator.

841
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,240
Speaker 1: So let's say in theory, Lincoln Riley had an offensive coordinator,

842
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: Herman had an offensive coordinator, Urban Meyer's offensive coordinator. Like

843
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 1: a team wanted to interview Ryan Day, team wanted to

844
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 1: interview Tom Herman Jr. Whoever you know the offensive coordinator

845
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: on those programs obviously Ryan Days, the UH offensive coordinator. Now,

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Speaker 1: no program would stop that guy from interviewing, so I

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Speaker 1: think it's a pretty natural kind of process. Now the

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Speaker 1: timeline is a little funky because he signed with them

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Speaker 1: what in earlier mid December, but then these teams, like

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Speaker 1: it was kind of clear that every NFL owner wanted

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Speaker 1: a guy, a white guy, thirty to forty six to

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Speaker 1: six ft two, uh and relatively skinny, not not an

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Speaker 1: overly chubby belly. You know, that's what they were looking for.

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Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury fits that to a t. Skinny former quarterback,

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Speaker 1: coaches quarterback, really good with the offense, and has head

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Speaker 1: coaching experience like Matt Lafleur. I recorded a lot of

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Speaker 1: this segment, so I'll get into it probably later this week.

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Speaker 1: Lafleur accepted the head coaching job today to be the

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Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers, or I guess they've offered in the job.

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Speaker 1: Like I'd argue Kingsbury's resumes better than that guy. It

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Speaker 1: really is, he's had more on his plate. I've seen

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Speaker 1: improve more. Now he's never done at the NFL level,

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Speaker 1: but I've only seen la Fleur coach offense for one year.

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Speaker 1: It didn't go that well. So I don't have a

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Speaker 1: big problem with Kingsbury, especially if he's being offered NFL jobs.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a pretty natural progression in the industry.

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Speaker 1: Works in now again, the timeline's funky. Lynn Swan's old school.

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Speaker 1: So I get you started to contract, you gotta honor it.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm not a huge believer in that when

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Speaker 1: the second contract is way better. You know, if you

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Speaker 1: break a contract to enter another contract that is the similar,

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Speaker 1: then I think you're kind of an idiot. But if

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Speaker 1: you break an offensive coordinator contract to become a head

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Speaker 1: coach an offensive coordinator college and become a head coach

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Speaker 1: in the NFL, Like if he becomes the head coach

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Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals, what is that ten times better

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Speaker 1: than being the offensive coordinator USC. You know, in one

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Speaker 1: of the big selling points for Kingsbury, he's like, he's young,

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Speaker 1: single and really good looking, and trust me, l A,

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Speaker 1: it was the place babes everywhere. Well, if you're listening

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Speaker 1: to this and you've ever been do the Tempee Scottsdale area,

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Speaker 1: I got news for you. It's you know, it could

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Speaker 1: be argued they can go toe to toe with l

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Speaker 1: A like, it's pretty sweet. And if you're gonna be

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Speaker 1: the head football coach and you're gonna make four or

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Speaker 1: five six million dollars, I mean, that's a pretty good gig.

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Speaker 1: You know, That's a pretty good gig for a single

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Speaker 1: guy that looks like Cliff Kingsbury. So I I think

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Speaker 1: I actually fall on the opposite side the more I

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Speaker 1: think about it. I got no problem with Kingsbury leaving

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Speaker 1: SC if he becomes a head coach as of right now,

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Speaker 1: which looks like the Arizona Cardinals without Ways still wanting

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Speaker 1: to rely on his defense and mostly interviewing defensive coaches.

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Speaker 1: How do you see Denver's building for the future as

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Speaker 1: it's becoming a more offensive league. I think it's hard

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Speaker 1: to answer this question until I see who he hires. Uh, Clearly,

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Speaker 1: it looks like he wants to hire someone with experience.

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Speaker 1: He just hired advanced Joseph It did not go well.

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Speaker 1: He was clearly over his head. I think when he

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Speaker 1: went down the well three years ago, even with John

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Speaker 1: Fox and then with Gary Coopy Act, both those guys

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Speaker 1: had a lot of experiences and they had a lot

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Speaker 1: of success. So when I think Elway, when he looks

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Speaker 1: at Chuck Pogano, Vic Fangio, I think that's the type

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Speaker 1: guy he's looking for. I actually think Chuck Pogano would

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Speaker 1: not be terrible. The problem is, when you hired Chuck Pogano,

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Speaker 1: you know you're eventually gonna if your offense is good,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna lose the offensive coordinator. So I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I like l Way, I can't really have a strong

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Speaker 1: opinion on this until I see who he hires, because

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Speaker 1: we've seen time and time again, just because you interview someone,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't necessarily mean you're gonna hire him, Like it

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Speaker 1: kind of feels like they're gonna hire Chuck Pogano right now,

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Speaker 1: or how Vic Fangio, it kind of feels like they'll

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Speaker 1: end up with you know, as we see times like

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Speaker 1: I didn't see Bruce Harrians ended up in Tampa. I

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Speaker 1: definitely see. Didn't see Matt Lafleur ending up in Green Bay.

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Speaker 1: So you just never know what these situations. You never

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Speaker 1: know who they're interviewing behind the scenes. Uh, I'll have

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Speaker 1: thoughts once they fire we hire someone again. You can

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