1 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. 2 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 2: So Michael Verie Show is on the air. 3 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,639 Speaker 3: The US is the first time in the history of 4 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 3: the world where a government. 5 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 2: Was organized with a constitution. 6 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 3: Laying out the rules that the individual was supreme and dominant. 7 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 3: And that is what led to the US becoming the 8 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 3: greatest country ever because it unleashed people to be the 9 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 3: best they could be, unlike it had ever happened. That's 10 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 3: American exceptionalism. 11 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 4: Our resolve is unbroken and our purpose is unchanged to 12 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 4: delivery government that serves the American people better than ever before. 13 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 4: To win with every single facet. We're gonna win so much. 14 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 4: You may even get tired of winning. And you say, please, please, 15 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 4: it's too much winning. 16 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 5: We can't take. 17 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 4: It anymore, mister President, it's too much, And I'll say, no, 18 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 4: it isn't. 19 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 2: We have to keep winning. We have to win more. 20 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:07,199 Speaker 2: We're gonna win more. 21 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 4: We're gonna win so much. 22 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 2: You never didn't think that it ever would have happened again, teacher. 23 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 6: You never didn't think that would ever get together again 24 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 6: with the. 25 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 2: Brand, would be allowed again. 26 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 5: You never did think that it ever would happen again. 27 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 7: It was a tall proud city, building rocks stronger. 28 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 2: Than oceans, wind swept, god. 29 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 7: Blessed and teeming with people of all kinds living in 30 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:37,839 Speaker 7: harmony and peace. A city with pree ports that hunged 31 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 7: with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be 32 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:44,479 Speaker 7: city walls, the walls had doors, and the doors were 33 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 7: open to anyone with the wills and. 34 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 2: The heart to get here. That's how I saw it 35 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 2: and see it still. 36 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 4: And we will restore and renovate our nations once great cities, 37 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 4: making them safe, clean. 38 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 2: And beautiful again. 39 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 4: And that includes our nation capital. 40 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 6: You never. 41 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 5: You never did a thing that would. 42 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 7: Never get together again. 43 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 5: Again. 44 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 4: Under my plan, incomes will skyrocket, inflation will vanish completely, 45 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 4: jobs will come roaring back, and the middle class will 46 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 4: prosper like never ever before. 47 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 2: And we're going to do it very rapidly. 48 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 4: I will bring back the American dream. Your expectations are 49 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 4: not big enough, not big enough. It's time to start 50 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 4: expecting and demanding the best leadership in the world. Leadership 51 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 4: that is bold, dynamic, relentless, and fearless. 52 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 5: We can do that. 53 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 2: We are Americans. 54 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 4: Ambition is our heritage, Greatness is our birthright. 55 00:02:54,320 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 6: And you. 56 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: Together again again. 57 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 2: With great humility. 58 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 4: I am asking you to be excited about the future 59 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 4: of our country. 60 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 2: Be excited, Be excited. 61 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: June nineteenth, famously known as June teenth or June teenth. 62 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 2: We study the Civil War. 63 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: And the moments of that era as if they're tidy 64 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: and clean. Civil war started, civil War ended, everything went along. 65 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: It's not how it happened, not at all. 66 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: April, sorry, I believe it was January first, eighteen sixty three, 67 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: Abraham Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation. Milton Friedman has a 68 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: chapter in Free to Choose where he talks about the 69 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: institution of slavery as being a point on a continuum 70 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: of governments restricting the rights of people in so many ways, 71 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: the right of movement. Throughout history, there have been restrictions 72 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 1: on the right of movement, the right of marriage. You 73 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: can't marry this person. Some communities were not allowed to 74 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: marry at all. They didn't exist. In India, you had 75 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: the class system, and you had one group called the Hutgons, 76 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: the untouchables, untouchable not like elliot ness, but untouchable, as in, 77 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: don't touch them, they are dirty, they are beneath humanity 78 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: had restrictions as to what languages could be spoken, all 79 00:04:54,720 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: sorts of political restrictions, legal restrictions, economic restrictions. The greatest 80 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: restriction you can make is to take away absolute freedom 81 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: and subjugate a human being. It is evil and it 82 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: is awful. Now we know it was not limited to 83 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: the United States. We know that it preceded the colonization 84 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: of the United States. It's an evil institution that speaks 85 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: to the evil within mankind and what happens unchecked. April 86 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: January first, eighteen sixty three Emancipation Proclamation. On April ninth, 87 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: eighteen sixty five, the Confederates abandoned Richmond at the Battle 88 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: of Appomatox Courthouse, and Robert E. Lee would, with great 89 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 1: dignity meet Union General Ulysses S. 90 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 2: Grant with great grace? Did Grant do this? 91 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: And the two of them would in this meeting, Grant 92 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: would accept General Lee's surrender. Many people mark that as 93 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: the end of the Civil War, but technically it was not. 94 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: Lee did not have the power to surrender for the Confederacy. 95 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: He was not Jefferson Davis. He was not the man 96 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: over this confederation of states that had broken away from 97 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: the Union. He was over a command of the Virginia 98 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: forces the finest fighting forces supposedly in all the land. 99 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 1: So it was not until August twentieth, eighteen sixty six, 100 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: that Abraham Lincoln's successor, Lincoln, having been assassinated Andrew Johnson, 101 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,679 Speaker 1: would declare the war was over. 102 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 2: We, in a neat and tidy. 103 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: Way, study the end of the Civil War as being 104 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: eighteen sixty five, because effectively, essentially April ninth, eighteen sixty five, 105 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: marked the end of the fighting in the most significant manner. 106 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: But as you can imagine, they didn't have a website 107 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: or a push text or any other means by which 108 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: to tell the people from New York down to Florida 109 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: and over to Texas, Hey, there's no reason to fight 110 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: any longer. It's like the Japanese man that goes wandering 111 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: in many years later and thinks that the war is 112 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: still going on and finds out that decades of his 113 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: life have been lost in hiding when the war had 114 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: been completed many many years before. 115 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 2: We will talk about Juneteenth in just a moment. 116 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: Juneteenth is also a special day in my life because 117 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: on nineteenth in nineteen sixty seven, on June tenth, my 118 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: brother Christopher Wayne Berry was born, and on Juneteenth, nineteen 119 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: ninety two, I was wed to my betrothed Nandita vencatationwardin Berry, 120 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: making this our thirty third wedding anniversary, thirty six years together. Wow, 121 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: that is amazing. That is something to be proud of, 122 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: it really is. But Ramone, Ramone is bothered that Juneteenth 123 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: is now a federal holiday. 124 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 2: He's sore over it. But it has nothing to do 125 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 2: with black people. I'll explain to with the Michael Berry. 126 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: Ill, Ramone seems very affable and happy, go lucky if 127 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 1: you meet him, you know, maybe even jolly. You think 128 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:54,599 Speaker 1: of Ramone as sort of jolly. But Ramone seeds with resentment. 129 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 1: I think Eddie put a lot of that to rest 130 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: with his with his watch. I think the watch was 131 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: a big issue, but there is still there's still the remnants. 132 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: I think we bunk or busted that one pretty well. 133 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you why. Because over the years, the 134 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: programming floor, which is the people who are on air 135 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: and their production team, was separate. We were on five 136 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: and sales was on four, and three was the public floor. 137 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: So that was where you would come a lot of 138 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 1: stations do giveaways if you came, if you want tickets, 139 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: you would come there if you came to a meeting. 140 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 1: There were conference rooms on that floor. The promotions department 141 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: that does you know, live broadcasts out of event they do. 142 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 2: They coordinate all those things from there and. 143 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: HR and all that was on three four was all 144 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: sales and we were on five. And so in twenty 145 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: twenty one, when Joe Biden declared June tenth the national holiday, 146 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: it was added to the days of Moan's resentment. Because 147 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: up until a couple of years ago, my theory was 148 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: my dad never was misworking. 149 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 2: We ain't missing work, and we're going to work through everything. 150 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: So every national holiday, other than say Christmas Thanksgiving, we 151 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: worked and we would be the only people in the building. 152 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 2: And so I've not only. 153 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: That the salesforce would leave, you know, at lunch today 154 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: before go out with some clients, have drinks and go 155 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: and here we were good. 156 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 2: Don't good, don't good? 157 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: Don't the lowest paid people in the building working on 158 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 1: this holiday. And as you can imagine, the much maligned 159 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 1: Ramone bore resentment at this, years after years after years. 160 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: So June teenth, representing the day that the general Orders 161 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: were brought to Galveston, General Order number three from Union 162 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: Major General Gordon Granger on June tenth, eighteen sixty five, 163 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: in Galveston, Texas, said, the people of Texas are informed that, 164 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: in accordance with a proclamation from the Executive of the 165 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: United States, all slaves are free. Now, what made this 166 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: interesting was the declaration had been issued January first, eighteen 167 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: sixty three, so we're two and a half years later, 168 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: but the Civil War was still raging. It was not, 169 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: as we mentioned, until a few months before this proclamation, 170 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: this executive order being read General Order number three. That 171 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: June teenth became the day of the announcement in the 172 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 1: State of Texas of freedom and as we know, freedom 173 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: to choose, freedom to live, freedom to marry, freedom to move, 174 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: freedom to conduct transact commerce. These are freedoms that are 175 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: God given. They are natural law. No man should be restricted. 176 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 1: You come into this world with birthrights, natural rights given 177 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: by God. This is important to understand as part of 178 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: our political philosophy. Government does not give you natural rights. 179 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: You are born free as a man with them. Government 180 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: can only protect them or take them away. It's important 181 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: to understand our mindset in the Judeo Christian world. This 182 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: the Institution of slavery was the ultimate restriction of a 183 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:30,599 Speaker 1: man's freedom, and that's why it had to be abolished, 184 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: and that's why it was a scourge on this nation 185 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: from the very beginning. We see the restrictions on rights 186 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:42,719 Speaker 1: to this very day, and we stand against him consistently. 187 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: So Ramon has been sore over this issue, and we 188 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: told him we're tired of hearing you complain about the 189 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: fact that you have to you have to work while 190 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 1: nobody else in the building is working, even though we 191 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: don't work in the building anymore. So he did what 192 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 1: you're supposed to do when you're a creative sort. He 193 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 1: create something for you. And here is Ramone's Catharsis and 194 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: we'll take calls after that. 195 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 2: Hey, it's Trumbold. 196 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 5: You know what today is. It's a company holiday. More importantly, 197 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 5: it's a federal holiday, which means the benks are closed, 198 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 5: the post office is dark, and half of corporate America's 199 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 5: at home pretending to honor it while actually just sleeping 200 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 5: in doom, scrolling and heating up leftover brisket at ten am. 201 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 5: It's Juneteenth. Now, look, don't get it twisted. It's important. 202 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 5: Texas had it right before the Feds even knew how 203 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 5: to spell it. But let's be real, most folks didn't 204 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 5: know what Juneteenth was until like ten minutes ago. Now 205 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 5: it's a federal holiday, complete with HR mandated slack messages 206 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 5: and a branded email from bed, Bath and Beyond. And 207 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 5: yet you know what isn't a holiday? D Day not 208 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:55,959 Speaker 5: a holiday. September eleventh, still clocking in election day. Nah, 209 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 5: we'd hate for people to have time to vote the 210 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 5: Monday after the Super Bowl. Eah, we want you back 211 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 5: at your desk, hungover, dehydrated it and filled with regret. 212 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 5: Just like America intended daylight saving time. Man, we still 213 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 5: let the government steal an hour of sleep from us 214 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 5: twice a year and don't even get a nap and return. Hey, 215 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 5: the Juneteenth, take the day, Fire up the grill, post 216 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 5: something you googled fifteen minutes ago, and act like you 217 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 5: didn't just learn about it from a company white email 218 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 5: sent by a guy named Todd in HR. Look, I'm 219 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 5: not anti holiday, I'm pro holiday. I'm just saying when 220 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 5: the irs gets the day off and I'm still working, 221 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 5: we've got a serious problem. 222 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: It's a federal holiday. 223 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 3: The office, Like Sordim Todd from HR send a note. 224 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 2: Don't fog get. 225 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 7: To honor him. 226 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 2: Thanks. Oh the mails asleep, the flag emojis fly. But 227 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 2: Monday after Super Bowl we still work. Explain that God 228 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 2: take the day grill away? Great and you new the 229 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 2: reason scroll a fact. 230 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: Then take a napple it's federal NAPSI. 231 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 2: But don't worry. We'll still be here, slave and over 232 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 2: a hot mic. 233 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: I'm not sure how that improves the lives of anybody 234 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: black other than our listeners. 235 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 2: But here we are. 236 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: We shall open the phone calls, the phone lines, but 237 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: only to black folks on anything about any of this 238 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: that you'd like to discuss. 239 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 2: Seven three. 240 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 5: Day, just in here listening, very. 241 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 2: Beaut was ed ed. You're on the Michael Berry Show. 242 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 8: Go ahead, sir, Well, Michael, if you would explained to 243 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 8: people about Friedman's town in every large. 244 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 2: City, you'll see one. You know what it is. 245 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 8: The other thing is about how the shipping industry to 246 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 8: move goods from the North to the South and south 247 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 8: to the North was controlled, and there were laws written 248 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 8: and the South was getting just screwed to the wall 249 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 8: on shipping. That was also a contributing factor to the 250 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 8: Civil War. In fact, those laws are still on the books. 251 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 8: When they had a big storm in Puerto Rico about 252 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 8: ten years ago, a French ship called good supplies for 253 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 8: the people to Puerto Rico. They wouldn't let him unload 254 00:16:56,480 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 8: because it was a foreign ship. This foreign chips are 255 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 8: still banned from hauling goods in America from north to 256 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 8: south and stuff. Just thought people might want to know 257 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 8: some of those things. 258 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: You know, two things can be true at the same time. 259 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 1: One of them, that slavery is evil is contrary everything 260 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: we hold here. The restriction in freedom to any individual. 261 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 2: Is evil and should be opposed. 262 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 1: It's as awful as can be and for a freedom 263 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: loving people, and throughout history Americans have been so it 264 00:17:51,560 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: is inconsistent with our core values. The American economy of 265 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: the eighteen sixties, and this had been for quite some time, 266 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 1: needed cheap labor in agriculture, and so the cheapest labor. 267 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 2: Was free. 268 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: Still had to feed, clothe, purchase all the things that 269 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: go into this, but it was the cheapest labor. It 270 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: became part of the economic model. But just as you're 271 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 1: hearing white liberals say today, if you deport the illegal 272 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 1: aliens and we have to comply with America's labor laws, 273 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: then we won't have anyone. We won't have a slave, 274 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 1: an underpaid person without any rights, being able to cook, clean, mow, nurse, 275 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: do all the things, and those have made us very comfortable. 276 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: That is no different than the plantation owner with a 277 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:57,360 Speaker 1: large agricultural interest. 278 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 2: It was as evil as it was. 279 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 1: It was an economic undertaking, and that was how the 280 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: plantation owner viewed it. 281 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 2: That doesn't make it right, It doesn't make it kind 282 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 2: or generous. It wasn't. 283 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 1: It was an economic model based in an evil that 284 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,919 Speaker 1: is contrary to our beliefs of freedom. 285 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 2: Simple, simple as that. 286 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: It is also the case that out of that evil 287 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: that was conducted by a tiny percentage of people plantation owners, 288 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 1: a number of people fought for a number of different reasons. 289 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: It's a complex and nuanced conflict. And yet, as with 290 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: most other things, if you question to the extent to 291 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: which we should be involved in the Israel Iran battle, 292 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: then you are an anti Semite. If you question whether 293 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: we should bust kids across town for two hours to 294 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: achieve some white liberal dream of this percentage and this percentage, then. 295 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 2: You're a racist. 296 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: If you question whether boys should be able to go 297 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,919 Speaker 1: into girls' locker rooms. Just because they announce yesterday that 298 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: they're a girl, then you're transphobic. 299 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 2: All of these things are the ways that. 300 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 1: Not very smart people discuss things because it's easier for them. 301 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: Nuance and complexity are too much for their little brains. 302 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: Or it's the way people describe it because they are 303 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: very smart and they understand that if you can back 304 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: someone into a corner, then you can't have a reasonable conversation. 305 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 2: I love I love the conversation. 306 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: I love the idea of sharing different opinions that may 307 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: not line up, and neither one of us has. 308 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 2: To agree to conclude the discussion. 309 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: But it's fun and sharpens iron it makes you think, 310 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: and we can all have different perspectives. That's a glorious thing. Loretta, 311 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: you share the first name of my late mother. Welcome 312 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:10,360 Speaker 1: to the program. 313 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 6: Well, thank you for having me. 314 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 2: What you got? 315 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 6: Are you able to hear me? Okay, great, yes, sir. Well, 316 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 6: I do think it's that it's great that we're able 317 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 6: to have conversations and just unpacked different ideas and not 318 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 6: necessarily arise at the same conclusion. I'm thinking that it's 319 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 6: very interesting that you would compare immigrants, which would be 320 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 6: cheap labor to the institution of slavery of which my 321 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,199 Speaker 6: family were dissentence of. 322 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 2: I think that's very, very interesting. 323 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 6: It's similar to the going trend of instead of referring 324 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 6: to African Americans broadly in the past that were restricted 325 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 6: quote unquote as slaves, kind of using a broader brush 326 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 6: and comparing them to let's say, the indentured servants of Ireland. 327 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,199 Speaker 6: I'm just thinking that it's it's very interesting. But the 328 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 6: reason I outreached you, guys was because I heard Ramone's 329 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 6: little little skit that you played, and I thought it 330 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 6: was very very entertaining, especially when he was, you know, saying, well, no, 331 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 6: I'm not a dance to federal holiday, but hey, what about. 332 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 2: Election Day? 333 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 6: Or what about the day after the super Bowl? Okay, 334 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 6: election Day definitely a thumbs up. The day after the 335 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 6: super Bowl not so sure. 336 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,479 Speaker 1: Well, you know, I think it's the day of greatest 337 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 1: drunkenness other than maybe January first. 338 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 2: It's a fair point. I'm not a big holiday guy. 339 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: So you know, Ramone comes at this as a guy 340 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 1: who would like a holiday a week, Let's be very 341 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 1: clear on that. 342 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 2: And so he comes at this less of a racial 343 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 2: issue and. 344 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: More of a well, if we're going to start naming holidays, 345 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 1: Juneteenth as a national holiday was instituted under Joe Biden 346 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one. What's interesting about that is, like 347 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 1: most white liberals, I don't think anybody. 348 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 2: Believes that Joe Biden had a deep, abiding. 349 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: Love for black people and wanted to show his consistency 350 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: with the cause and his understanding of historical suffering. He 351 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: treats black people as a political pawn, his corn pop story, 352 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: which is probably all made up, that he's the hero 353 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: of that you're not black if you don't vote for me, 354 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: And I think that's consistent with all of that, and that's. 355 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 2: What really feels hate Aboutchael. I'm talk at ten o'clock this. 356 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: Morning with the founder of turtle Box, and the genesis 357 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: of that conversation is one day, I just noticed that 358 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 1: there was a speaker called turtle Box, a Bluetooth speaker 359 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: and had kind of a distinctive logo, very simple, almost 360 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:38,719 Speaker 1: a throwback font. And let's say I notice it on 361 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: a billboard. I go into a Republic boot company and 362 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: I noticed they sell them, which is interesting because they 363 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: do boots and now they expand a hats in custom 364 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 1: suits and leather goods. I thought, oh, but then there's 365 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 1: that there's that turtle box. There's one sitting there you 366 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: can buy. And then I would be at different places 367 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: and I noticed Turtleboxing. There comes a point where you 368 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 1: notice that you've been seeing something for a while that's 369 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: new to you and you don't know when you first 370 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 1: saw it. Was turtle Box part of my childhood or 371 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: did I just discover it three months ago? 372 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 2: And there is this bias. 373 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: You know, when you go by a white Chevy silver Dorado, 374 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: white Chevy Silverado, you start noticing every white Chevy Silverado, 375 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: or when your kid goes to a school, you start 376 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: noticing how many times that school's name comes up. 377 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 2: It's this It heightens an awareness. 378 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: So I wanted to know the story behind Turtlebox, so 379 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: I put the word out yesterday. And because I found 380 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: out it's a Houston brand and it's apparently four dudes 381 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: just can of for frat boys or fishing buddies or 382 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: hunting buddies or high school buddies or who knows what 383 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 1: who started this business? And I thought, well, that seemed 384 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: kind of cool. So I put the word out and 385 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: as I understand it. The kind of driving force is 386 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: a fellow named Will Bradley, And several folks said, oh, 387 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: Will Bradley's a friend, and so I think Jim Mudd 388 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: has connected with him, and we'll talk to him at 389 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 1: ten o'clock this morning. Loretta, I wanted to hold you over, Loretta. Yes, 390 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: I wanted to hold you over, because how. 391 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 2: Old are you? I'm fifty four, fifty four. You have 392 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 2: a wonderful voice for radio. 393 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 1: You you strike me as a person. This is how 394 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 1: I imagine a number of people that I only got 395 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: to know at a. 396 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 2: Much older age. A friend of mine named Marvin Hamilton, 397 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 2: for instance. 398 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: And now Marvin is I think one hundred and thirty 399 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 1: years old and still going strong. 400 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 2: He's much older. 401 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: And he went back in his seventies and got his. 402 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 2: Degree which he'd never finished. 403 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: And then he just, what the heck, I'm enjoying this, 404 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 1: got a master's degree. He may be doing his PhD now. 405 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 1: Pretty amazing man. And I used to sit with Marvin. 406 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: I called him the old man at the sea. Everybody 407 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: would show up. Marvin had a car wash. He was retired. 408 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,679 Speaker 1: He was a postmaster general. He's a postmaster of one 409 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:19,120 Speaker 1: of the biggest postal plants, postal stations in the greater 410 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: Houston area, and he'd raised his kids as a single dad, 411 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: and he's just one of these guys that everybody respected 412 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 1: and honored. And you would go and he would wash 413 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 1: your car, which was kind of like Jesus washing the 414 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: feet of his disciples. It was subjugating himself. And so 415 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,400 Speaker 1: here was this very wise man. But I always imagined 416 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: studying the civil rights movement and studying race relations in 417 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 1: this country, and you come across this type of person 418 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 1: who's a very strong person, who may not like who 419 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: you are, what you stand for, the job they've been given, 420 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: the way you treat them, the terms you use, or 421 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: any number of other things. And this is not only 422 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: limited to race. But I always imagine this being the 423 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 1: case that there were people who could smile and go 424 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 1: about their day but not approve in any way, shape 425 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 1: or form of who you are and what you do, 426 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: and you might not even notice it. And that's a 427 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 1: sign of great strength, not a sign of weakness. So 428 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 1: I want to go back to something you said in 429 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 1: a very pleasant way, with a sort of forced smile, 430 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 1: that it's very interesting that I compare slavery to the 431 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 1: modern illegal alien. But I don't think you meant interesting. 432 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: I think you meant troubling, and I want you to concerning, 433 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: and I want I want you to explain that you deserve. 434 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 6: That excellent interpretation. Thank you for your compliment. Yes, I 435 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 6: did mean interesting in the sense that it is concerning, 436 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 6: as slavery was not a voluntary institution. It was involunteering. 437 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 6: The very close that will warn the food that was eden, 438 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 6: whether or not medical care was rendered or was held, 439 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 6: whom it is, whomever it is you were made to 440 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 6: marry or quote unquote breed with your very life was 441 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 6: determined by the planter or the master, very very different 442 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 6: from the life of an immigrant. People are coming to America. 443 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 6: While would they not want to come to America, the 444 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 6: greatest country on this earth, they come voluntarily, They come willingly, 445 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 6: they come and drove. They're here because they desire to 446 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 6: be here, they desire the opportunity. 447 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,719 Speaker 2: So let me speak very different from slavery. No, in 448 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 2: that sense it is. 449 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: This is a perfect example of so many things where 450 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: two people look at something from very different perspectives. I 451 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: read in a literary review once years ago that if 452 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: you read Huckleberry Finn three times in your life as 453 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: a child, as a college student, and as a senior adult, 454 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: that you will identify with three different characters in the 455 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: same novel, and you are the same person. So this 456 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: is a perfect example of how two people could look 457 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: at the same issue from very different perspectives and neither 458 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: is necessarily wrong. You are saying, and rightfully so, that 459 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: illegal immigration is not slavery because the slave didn't choose 460 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: to enter the institution. The illegal alien chooses to come 461 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: to this country and do these jobs for these people. 462 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: No one puts a gun to their head. They're not 463 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: in shackles, which is true. My position is not did 464 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: the illegal alien choose this form of slavery. My position 465 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: is the white liberal woman wants her slave, just as 466 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: the plantation owner wanted their slave. And when you listen 467 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: to white liberal women talk about how difficult life will 468 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: be if they no longer have their I'll use the 469 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: word slave. 470 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 2: It's not completely accurate. And yes, it is intended to provoke. 471 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 2: It is intended to inflame. It is intended. 472 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: Persuasively to evoke strong emotions. Because if you listen carefully 473 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: to what the white liberal woman is doing this woman 474 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: who virtue signals all the time, she does not love 475 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: that person. She does not consider them a child of God. 476 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: She does not honor or respect them. If she did, 477 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 1: she wouldn't pay the low wages. She wants cheap labor 478 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: because it makes her life better. So for her to 479 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 1: ball and cry at some point on behalf of the 480 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: aggrieved illegal alien is disingenuous. And so from that perspective, 481 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: I'm speaking to her. 482 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 2: Action and not the illegal alien. Does that make sense? 483 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 6: That does make sense. A free labor or cheap labor 484 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 6: is one of the essential threats of capitalism. 485 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: Now, Loretta, don't go communist on me. We're gonna air 486 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: hug this out. Thank you for calling. You're a sweetheart. 487 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: I adore you.