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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Coast to Coast, George Nori with you.
Speaker 1: Susan Slaughter with Us a paranormal investigator whose investigative works
Speaker 1: can be seen on series like Sci Fi's Ghost Hunters International,
Speaker 1: the Darksone TV Travel Channel's Paranormal Caught on Camera. For
Speaker 1: the past sixteen years, Susan has investigated supernatural phenomena in
Speaker 1: more than thirty countries worldwide and multiple historical locations, from
Speaker 1: ancient Incan and Mayan temples to the hidden tunnels and
Speaker 1: crypts of the Night's Templar. Through her research, she has
Speaker 1: developed a keen understanding of death and the spirit room. Susan,
Speaker 1: Welcome to the program. Looking forward to chatting with you tonight. Hi, George,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for having me. The pleasures all mine,
Speaker 1: trust me. How did you get involved in this? Well,
Speaker 1: I think like most people that get involved in the paranormal,
Speaker 1: you know, it's through personal experience and trying to understand,
Speaker 1: you know, what was happening. Some of my earliest memories
Speaker 1: in my life were paranormal occurrences, and like I guess,
Speaker 1: when I was like four or five years old. I
Speaker 1: remember being visited by you know, orbs of light, seeing
Speaker 1: shadow people and expressing that to my mother. You know
Speaker 1: who kind of you know, nurtured that curiosity instead of
Speaker 1: shunned it, you know. And as I got older, you know,
Speaker 1: the experiences started getting a little bit more and more profound,
Speaker 1: and I just wanted to understand, you know, what was
Speaker 1: it that I was experiencing. What are these light beings?
Speaker 1: What are these shadow figures? And so my father, you know,
Speaker 1: put a K two meter in my hand when I
Speaker 1: was thirteen years old and said, next time you see
Speaker 1: something in the room, turn this device on and see
Speaker 1: if it corroborates your experience. And that was like the
Speaker 1: first idea that I had that, you know, I could
Speaker 1: actually use devices to help teach me, you know, what
Speaker 1: I was experiencing. And so that was the birth of
Speaker 1: the investigator. I guess, did your mother have these abilities
Speaker 1: as well? Well? I mean I would say that the
Speaker 1: person in my family that was more with the abilities
Speaker 1: was my father. You know, he was the one who
Speaker 1: taught me how to read tarot. My mother, you know,
Speaker 1: she's a devout Catholic, you know, she went to she
Speaker 1: was taught by nuns her whole life. You know, she
Speaker 1: was the one handing me, you know, like rosaries and
Speaker 1: statues of archangel Saint Michael for protection, and whenever I
Speaker 1: had a paranormal experience, you know, she interpreted it as archangels,
Speaker 1: you know, guarding me. And then you know, my dad
Speaker 1: was like, oh, you know, they might be spirits or
Speaker 1: maybe you have a gift. And so they allowed me
Speaker 1: to nurture that curiosity, which was great. And when I
Speaker 1: was about eighteen years old, you know, I'm born and
Speaker 1: raised in Miami, and I was watching television series, you know,
Speaker 1: seeing other people while I was watching Ghost Hunters, you know,
Speaker 1: back on the Sci Fi channel, and I was like, people, actually,
Speaker 1: you know, investigate this. And I thought it was something
Speaker 1: that was only on television until you know, I saw
Speaker 1: a car in my neighborhood wrapped that said League of
Speaker 1: Paranormal Investigators on the side and there was a website
Speaker 1: and I was like, what, so these people exist, and
Speaker 1: so I immediately reached out to them and I said, hey,
Speaker 1: if you need me to sift through you know audio
Speaker 1: or video, if you need me to just like run
Speaker 1: and grab you coffee while you're on investigations, I'm your guy,
Speaker 1: and then eventually they let me join the team. And
Speaker 1: that's what started my professional career as an investigator. And
Speaker 1: you've never looked back, never looked back. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think it's my calling it. I mean, honestly, like, how
Speaker 1: do you go back after you touch this type of energy,
Speaker 1: after you experience it? You know, it's the most profound
Speaker 1: question that you know. Civilizations are built on some of
Speaker 1: the oldest texts in the world, The oldest ideas of
Speaker 1: the world are based around spirituality, and like the whole
Speaker 1: whole religions and kingdoms are built around the idea of
Speaker 1: life after death and how to live your life according
Speaker 1: to it, you know, And so once you touch that,
Speaker 1: you know, you open Pandora's box. There's definitely you're going
Speaker 1: down the rabbit hole. You know. What have you learned
Speaker 1: choosen over the years about what the spirit realm might be?
Speaker 1: You know, when I first started investigating, compared to where
Speaker 1: I'm at now, my views have completely changed, you know.
Speaker 1: I've learned to lean on, you know, my experiences more so,
Speaker 1: for instance, on investigations, things that I've noticed I've come across,
Speaker 1: the things that I've captured in audio and on film
Speaker 1: and on you know, on devices. Is what I kind
Speaker 1: of leaned towards more of a scientific explainable thing, you know,
Speaker 1: which is the majority of the ghosts that we encounter
Speaker 1: and haunted local I believe to be recordings of sorts
Speaker 1: within the atmosphere, something that still holds a bit of
Speaker 1: intelligence to it, only like that, you know, sparks through
Speaker 1: a memory. And what I mean by that is, you know,
Speaker 1: you could go to a place where there's the white
Speaker 1: lady that shows up at the top of the stairs,
Speaker 1: and you could pick up you know, anomalous like disembodied voices,
Speaker 1: or maybe pick up things on camera at that location,
Speaker 1: and it's the same memory we're playing over and over again.
Speaker 1: But it's not necessarily what I believe to be actual
Speaker 1: human spirit. It's just a recording in the atmosphere. But
Speaker 1: that being said, there are so many layers to paranormal
Speaker 1: phenomena Outside of a ghost, outside of a haunting, which
Speaker 1: I believe to be like a spiritual recording within the environment,
Speaker 1: there's also non human entities out there, things that you
Speaker 1: know are conscious and entire eligent, but don't necessarily exist
Speaker 1: within you know, a physical being you know. So these
Speaker 1: are like non physical entities, and I've discovered that they're sentient,
Speaker 1: they can interact, and you know, they live you know,
Speaker 1: on the electromagnetic spectrum and light spectrum from ultraviolet to
Speaker 1: you know, well you know, infrared, you know. So what's
Speaker 1: crazy about that is that these beings have the ability
Speaker 1: to travel in the ability to travel with lights, you know.
Speaker 1: And so I've come across that there's also non human
Speaker 1: entities that have the ability to appear in you know,
Speaker 1: almost like an animistic way. And so every time I've
Speaker 1: come across you know, these types of beings or entities
Speaker 1: like it just it shifts everything you know about the field.
Speaker 1: You know, it's a lot. How did magic Susan enter
Speaker 1: all of this? Um well, my father, you know, is
Speaker 1: a practicing Wiccan. He passed away, you know, fourteen years ago,
Speaker 1: so he's no longer with us, but was a very
Speaker 1: well known member in the Pagan and Wiccan communities. And
Speaker 1: um I was introduced to magic that way. And um,
Speaker 1: I feel like it resonated a lot with me as
Speaker 1: a person. I don't necessary I'm not necessarily wiccanum I
Speaker 1: do consider myself to be a witch, and I do
Speaker 1: practice forms of ritual and I do you know, commune
Speaker 1: with non human entities. I notice your instagram is Susan
Speaker 1: the Dragon Witch. That's correct, yes, okay, um, So you know,
Speaker 1: I definitely identify with that as a lifestyle with my practices.
Speaker 1: But all of the things that I take into my
Speaker 1: practices as a witch, I take from, you know, variations
Speaker 1: of different religious backgrounds, you know, Um, I I will
Speaker 1: have on my altar, you know, archangel Saint Michael right
Speaker 1: next to Bahame and Hecate as well as Shiva and
Speaker 1: Naga Kanya and Mommy Watta and you know O'shoon and
Speaker 1: you know, so everything you know is all encompassing it
Speaker 1: because those energies are very real and every single religion,
Speaker 1: you know, they all have different names, but they all
Speaker 1: represent these non human entities that are these intelligent beings
Speaker 1: here to assist human in the three dimensional reality. You
Speaker 1: know you're going to be at the Conscious Live Expo.
Speaker 1: I'll see you out there. I am going to be there.
Speaker 1: I'm very excited about it. I'm doing one of my
Speaker 1: most favorite things I love to do, which is seances.
Speaker 1: I have three that I'll be hosting, and I'm very
Speaker 1: very excited about. It's something that I'm very passionate about
Speaker 1: helping people access their own psychic abilities to commune with
Speaker 1: other entities. And so it's going to be a bit
Speaker 1: of a workshop, a bit of a counseling session, UM,
Speaker 1: where people can connect with extraterrestrials that they choose their
Speaker 1: higher selves you know, human or non human you know, energies. UM.
Speaker 1: So I'm very excited about that. And I'm also moderating
Speaker 1: a panel on UM on the use of divination for
Speaker 1: you know, magical purposes and of cos in a big
Speaker 1: way and all that. Doesn't it absolutely absolutely um. And
Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna have some amazing people on the panel, UM.
Speaker 1: So from so many different walks. You know. We're going
Speaker 1: to have um Miss Gabrielson, who's uh near death experiencer
Speaker 1: UM and she accessed some of her abilities through you know,
Speaker 1: coming close to death several occasions. UM. We have other
Speaker 1: channelers like um Maureene the Oracle, and then we have
Speaker 1: Alexandra who you know, she channels the Golden Arrow. We
Speaker 1: have Cadrick Olson, who's you know, very well known UM
Speaker 1: which in Los Angeles, who does all sorts of you know,
Speaker 1: ruins and bone readings, and we've got Travis McHenry who's
Speaker 1: occultist and also has his own line of tarot cars um.
Speaker 1: And it's just it's gonna be awesome. Like I'm very
Speaker 1: excited about it. I was there last year, um, and
Speaker 1: I got to meet a lot of these people. And
Speaker 1: you know, if you've you've done Conscious Life expos, so
Speaker 1: you know, you meet so many interesting people, whether they're ufologists,
Speaker 1: whether they're you know, quantum physicists, whether they're paranormal investigators
Speaker 1: like me, or witches or oracles, and you just get
Speaker 1: in the most amazing conversations late night around a glass
Speaker 1: of wine. You know. Um, I remember having such amazing
Speaker 1: conversations with Apollo, you know, who's giving me readings on
Speaker 1: like what type of star seed I was, And like
Speaker 1: they're very good at what they do. They're fantastic, you know.
Speaker 1: And it's really great to kind of like rub elbows
Speaker 1: with everybody and kind of take information, you know. And
Speaker 1: that's another reason why Conscious Life Expo. The people that
Speaker 1: go there, you have thousands upon thousands of people who
Speaker 1: are enlightened and spiritual that are willing to open Pandora's box,
Speaker 1: who are willing to go down that energetic rabbit hole
Speaker 1: and have these conversations. And so when you go to
Speaker 1: the Hilton during that weekend, it's just so incredibly super charged.
Speaker 1: And the reasons why I'm hosting my seances there and
Speaker 1: doing three of them this year. Last year i did
Speaker 1: one and it was such a hit. That's intense, isn't it. Three?
Speaker 1: The reads nuts and you know what, I've never done
Speaker 1: that before. I might regret it, George, How long do
Speaker 1: they laugh? Oh gosh, at least two hours? It's you know.
Speaker 1: At first, I do a little bit of like a
Speaker 1: historical you know, introduction to spiritualism, which you know is
Speaker 1: a little controversial, you know, like you think about the
Speaker 1: Fox Sisters and the Victorian era and how m they
Speaker 1: were con artists and it kind of gave spiritualism a
Speaker 1: bad name. Hated steances and didn't believe in it at all,
Speaker 1: you know, and the results it was considered who haa.
Speaker 1: But to be honest, like, you can't let a few
Speaker 1: people ruin it for everyone else, you know, And I'm
Speaker 1: trying to bring it back and show the proper way
Speaker 1: to utilize tools like a wigia board, to utilize tools
Speaker 1: like you know, pendulums, with scrying boards. Um. I also
Speaker 1: do a gallery reading where I go into a state
Speaker 1: of hypnosis and I read, you know, m via posshion,
Speaker 1: which is another practice that I do. UM. And so
Speaker 1: it is a lot, and like I said, I might
Speaker 1: regret it, but to be honest, like I have so
Speaker 1: much fun, even though it's incredibly draining, but I do
Speaker 1: have a whole practice after before every seance and after
Speaker 1: every seance to kind of clean my slate and like
Speaker 1: get my energy right again, you know. And UM, what
Speaker 1: has been one of the strangest things that has happened
Speaker 1: while you've been conducting a seance? Well, I'll tell you
Speaker 1: about the first time I ever used the spirit board?
Speaker 1: And um, is a spirit board Auiji board right correct? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is not a name owned by Parker Brothers, you know,
Speaker 1: but a spirit board before you know, it was mass produced,
Speaker 1: you know as Wija. It's the same thing. You know,
Speaker 1: they used to all be circular, some of the original
Speaker 1: spirit boards out there, very similar to like a scrying
Speaker 1: board today. But I guess the strangest thing that's ever
Speaker 1: happened was the first time I ever used the Weigia board.
Speaker 1: And I begged my mom please let me get one, like,
Speaker 1: here's this budding spiritualists over here who's into the paranormal.
Speaker 1: And she finally gave in and I got like one
Speaker 1: of those glow in the dark ones, and I convinced
Speaker 1: my mom and my dad to sit with me as
Speaker 1: I played with the spirit boards. And you know, I
Speaker 1: wasn't doing it correctly. I was holding the planchet alone.
Speaker 1: And I do believe that this is like a funneling
Speaker 1: of energy that you need with the group atmosphere, and
Speaker 1: I was harnessing all this energy all by myself that
Speaker 1: I could feel my wrists starting to get hot and
Speaker 1: my arms getting shaky, and I was getting these downloads
Speaker 1: of like the information that I wanted to move the
Speaker 1: planchet to, but I was like, you're not supposed to
Speaker 1: consciously move the planchet supposed to move on its own, right,
Speaker 1: And so I just I didn't push the planchet to
Speaker 1: the specific areas of the board that I was feeling
Speaker 1: led to, And so what ended up happening was full
Speaker 1: blown possession. It was like whatever was trying to get
Speaker 1: its messages out, I wasn't doing it via the planchet
Speaker 1: on the board, and so it just fully took me
Speaker 1: in and that was how I discovered my um ability
Speaker 1: for channeling spirit through allowing them to enter me as
Speaker 1: a physical vessel. And uh, that was terrifying. I remember
Speaker 1: you been hurt. I've never been hurt in any of
Speaker 1: my paranormal endeavors, uh, not once. I've never been scratched.
Speaker 1: I never is unusual that you haven't been hurt. Well,
Speaker 1: I think it's it all comes down down to the
Speaker 1: approach and your intentions. You know, energies like spirit energies
Speaker 1: at locations because they don't have bodies to you know,
Speaker 1: their incorporate real entities. They can feel your intentions and
Speaker 1: your aura and your energy as you come in. And
Speaker 1: so I think, you know, before every investigation, I always
Speaker 1: have like the utmost respect for all the entities they're
Speaker 1: regardless of the reputation that they have, you know, or
Speaker 1: you know. I don't go in there to exploit them.
Speaker 1: I go in there because I always have done this,
Speaker 1: you know, even though I ended up doing this for
Speaker 1: television and on productions, you know, for my entire career,
Speaker 1: the whole reason why I've ever done any of this
Speaker 1: was from my own understanding of supernatural phenomena. And I'm
Speaker 1: may have a little bit of a motive to like
Speaker 1: grow energetically to the point where I could become an
Speaker 1: ascended mass, but that's neither here nor there, you know.
Speaker 1: I feel like we have to graduate, you know, from
Speaker 1: this plane of existence, you know, by opening all of
Speaker 1: these energetic boxes and understanding source energy. And I learned
Speaker 1: a lot through investigating the paranormal about that source energy.
Speaker 1: And I think going in there with the mentality in
Speaker 1: all my investigations like, hey, teach me whatever you can,
Speaker 1: and if you can't, that's okay. I'm not putting you
Speaker 1: on the spot. I'm not expecting you to perform. I'm
Speaker 1: not scared of you, and I love you. I always
Speaker 1: come in there, you know, like with this love energy,
Speaker 1: and I always try to lead investigations through my heart chakra,
Speaker 1: you know, and be so cerebral about it, you know,
Speaker 1: and let the energies kind of come to me with
Speaker 1: whatever they can. You know, a lot of the time
Speaker 1: when you watch these paranormal series, there's a lot of interrogation,
Speaker 1: and you know, there's a lot of bringing up and
Speaker 1: hashing out like old traumas that in a lot of
Speaker 1: these places they go to people had horrible ends to
Speaker 1: their lives, you know, and have done horrible things, which
Speaker 1: causes these energies to stick around, you know. And when
Speaker 1: you go in there like bad cops, bad cop interrogating
Speaker 1: these energies, you know, you are antagonizing them. You become aggressive,
Speaker 1: and you're not leading with your heart, you know. And
Speaker 1: so I think that's the reason why I've never been attacked, um,
Speaker 1: but I've definitely had uncomfortable encounters, you know, likes for example. Right,
Speaker 1: I believe that there are negative and positive aspects to
Speaker 1: every energy out there. Um. I don't believe in demons
Speaker 1: in a biblical sense like I think that you know,
Speaker 1: if Bayazi Blob is a true demon you know from
Speaker 1: the another regions of Hell, you know, he's not this
Speaker 1: all encompassing negative entity. You know, all superior and energies
Speaker 1: are neutral to be honest. You know, they just rule
Speaker 1: within different realms of you know, the light spectrum and
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