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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio, Man,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Coast to Coast, George Nori with you.

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Speaker 1: Susan Slaughter with Us a paranormal investigator whose investigative works

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Speaker 1: can be seen on series like Sci Fi's Ghost Hunters International,

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Speaker 1: the Darksone TV Travel Channel's Paranormal Caught on Camera. For

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Speaker 1: the past sixteen years, Susan has investigated supernatural phenomena in

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Speaker 1: more than thirty countries worldwide and multiple historical locations, from

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Speaker 1: ancient Incan and Mayan temples to the hidden tunnels and

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Speaker 1: crypts of the Night's Templar. Through her research, she has

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Speaker 1: developed a keen understanding of death and the spirit room. Susan,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the program. Looking forward to chatting with you tonight. Hi, George,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for having me. The pleasures all mine,

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Speaker 1: trust me. How did you get involved in this? Well,

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Speaker 1: I think like most people that get involved in the paranormal,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's through personal experience and trying to understand,

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Speaker 1: you know, what was happening. Some of my earliest memories

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Speaker 1: when I was like four or five years old. I

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Speaker 1: remember being visited by you know, orbs of light, seeing

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Speaker 1: who kind of you know, nurtured that curiosity instead of

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Speaker 1: shunned it, you know. And as I got older, you know,

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Speaker 1: the experiences started getting a little bit more and more profound,

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Speaker 1: and I just wanted to understand, you know, what was

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Speaker 1: it that I was experiencing. What are these light beings?

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Speaker 1: What are these shadow figures? And so my father, you know,

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Speaker 1: was thirteen years old and said, next time you see

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Speaker 1: something in the room, turn this device on and see

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Speaker 1: if it corroborates your experience. And that was like the

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Speaker 1: first idea that I had that, you know, I could

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Speaker 1: actually use devices to help teach me, you know, what

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Speaker 1: I was experiencing. And so that was the birth of

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Speaker 1: the investigator. I guess, did your mother have these abilities

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Speaker 1: as well? Well? I mean I would say that the

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Speaker 1: person in my family that was more with the abilities

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Speaker 1: taught me how to read tarot. My mother, you know,

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Speaker 1: she's a devout Catholic, you know, she went to she

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Speaker 1: was taught by nuns her whole life. You know, she

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Speaker 1: was the one handing me, you know, like rosaries and

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Speaker 1: statues of archangel Saint Michael for protection, and whenever I

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Speaker 1: was like, oh, you know, they might be spirits or

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Speaker 1: maybe you have a gift. And so they allowed me

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Speaker 1: to nurture that curiosity, which was great. And when I

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Speaker 1: was about eighteen years old, you know, I'm born and

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Speaker 1: raised in Miami, and I was watching television series, you know,

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Speaker 1: seeing other people while I was watching Ghost Hunters, you know,

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Speaker 1: back on the Sci Fi channel, and I was like, people, actually,

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Speaker 1: that was only on television until you know, I saw

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Speaker 1: a car in my neighborhood wrapped that said League of

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Speaker 1: Paranormal Investigators on the side and there was a website

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Speaker 1: and I was like, what, so these people exist, and

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Speaker 1: so I immediately reached out to them and I said, hey,

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Speaker 1: and grab you coffee while you're on investigations, I'm your guy,

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Speaker 1: and then eventually they let me join the team. And

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Speaker 1: that's what started my professional career as an investigator. And

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Speaker 1: you've never looked back, never looked back. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think it's my calling it. I mean, honestly, like, how

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Speaker 1: do you go back after you touch this type of energy,

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Speaker 1: after you experience it? You know, it's the most profound

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Speaker 1: question that you know. Civilizations are built on some of

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Speaker 1: the oldest texts in the world, The oldest ideas of

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Speaker 1: you know, you open Pandora's box. There's definitely you're going

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Speaker 1: down the rabbit hole. You know. What have you learned

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Speaker 1: choosen over the years about what the spirit realm might be?

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Speaker 1: You know, when I first started investigating, compared to where

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Speaker 1: I've learned to lean on, you know, my experiences more so,

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Speaker 1: But it's not necessarily what I believe to be actual

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Speaker 1: You know, it's a lot. How did magic Susan enter

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Speaker 1: all of this? Um well, my father, you know, is

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Speaker 1: do consider myself to be a witch, and I do

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Speaker 1: here to assist human in the three dimensional reality. You

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Speaker 1: know you're going to be at the Conscious Live Expo.

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Speaker 1: I'll see you out there. I am going to be there.

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Speaker 1: I'm very excited about it. I'm doing one of my

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Speaker 1: where people can connect with extraterrestrials that they choose their

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Speaker 1: So I'm very excited about that. And I'm also moderating

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Speaker 1: And um, is a spirit board Auiji board right correct? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it is not a name owned by Parker Brothers, you know,

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Speaker 1: but a spirit board before you know, it was mass produced,

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Speaker 1: And I begged my mom please let me get one, like,

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Speaker 1: you been hurt. I've never been hurt in any of

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Speaker 1: my paranormal endeavors, uh, not once. I've never been scratched.

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Speaker 1: I never is unusual that you haven't been hurt. Well,

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Speaker 1: I go in there because I always have done this,

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Speaker 1: And I think going in there with the mentality in

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Speaker 1: I believe that there are negative and positive aspects to

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Speaker 1: every energy out there. Um. I don't believe in demons

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Speaker 1: in a biblical sense like I think that you know,

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Speaker 1: if Bayazi Blob is a true demon you know from

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Speaker 1: the another regions of Hell, you know, he's not this

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Speaker 1: all encompassing negative entity. You know, all superior and energies

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