1 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: It is eight hundred and nine four one sewn. If 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: you want to be a part of the program. Well, 3 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: she's back right now. Favorite congresswoman who speaks for the 4 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: radical extreme Democrats in Congress is apparently going into Congress. 5 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: You have a message for Elon Musk. I bet most 6 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: of you in your mind's eye right now can guess 7 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 1: what she probably says. 8 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 2: Let's play it. If you could speak directly to Elon Musk, 9 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 2: what would you say? 10 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 3: That's it? 11 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: You got him, he really did. I'm sure his feelings 12 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: are hurt. It's just they will never get it. I 13 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: did this this interview for a website called Mediaite, and 14 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: maybe we'll post it on Hannity social media. But and 15 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: I explain now why I said in seven that journalism 16 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: is dead, and then after this election, legacy media is dead. 17 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: And they are and in large part because they get 18 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: everything wrong and they have a political agenda and they 19 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: light to their audiences and as a result, they have 20 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: lost all trust from the people that used to watch them. 21 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: Interesting to watch, you know. Conspiracy theorist, extraordinary, not exactly 22 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: a truth teller in her own right, went along with 23 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 1: the Russian Live. We played her yesterday saying that if 24 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: you get the shot, you're not going to get COVID, 25 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: and if you get the shot, you're not going to 26 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 1: infect others, going along with government talking points. Rachel Maddow 27 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: angry over the firing of Joy Reid at MSDNC and 28 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: how it was mistake and even inferring it was related 29 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: to race. 30 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 4: In all of the jobs I have had, in all 31 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 4: of the years I have been alive, there is no 32 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 4: colleague for whom I have had more affection and more 33 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 4: respect than Joy read I love everything about her. I 34 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 4: have learned so much from her. I have so much 35 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 4: more to learn from her. I do not want to 36 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 4: lose her as a colleague here at MSNBC, and personally, 37 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 4: I think it is a bad mistake to let her 38 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 4: walk out the door. It is not my call and 39 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 4: I understand that, but that's what I think. 40 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: I will tell you. 41 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 4: It is also unnerving to see that on a network 42 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 4: where we've got two count of two non white hosts 43 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 4: in primetime, both of our non white hosts in primetime 44 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 4: are losing their shows, as is Katie Fang on the Weekend, 45 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 4: and that feels worse than bad no matter who replaces. 46 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 4: Now that feels indefensible, and I do not defend it. 47 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 2: So who is she talking about? Enjoy reading? 48 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: And look what they do over there has no impact 49 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: on my life, to be very honest, and I only 50 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: get has impact on anybody else's life because if it did, 51 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 1: they would have done a lot better in this election 52 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 1: because they were deep part in the paint with fascist 53 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: racist Hitler Mussolini. I mean, I even got a cut 54 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: of joy read Fascism is already here, et cetera. 55 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 2: But just who is she defending? Let's listen, and the. 56 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,679 Speaker 5: Potito family certainly deserve answers and justice. But the way 57 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 5: this story has captivated the nation has many wondering why 58 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 5: not the same media attention when people of color go missing? Well, 59 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 5: the answer actually has a name, missing white woman syndrome. 60 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 5: But I do hope that as a senator, you'll prove 61 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 5: those who call you a token wrong. Gotta love the 62 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 5: Tim Scott standing there to provide the patina of diversity 63 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 5: over that round of words at a basketful of words. 64 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 5: Guarantee you if that was a Black Lives Matter protest. 65 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 2: In DC, there. 66 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 5: Would already be people shackled, arrested, or dead. So for 67 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 5: so many reasons, being a freeloader and a selfish and 68 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 5: disrespectful one, and for misappropriating Black vernacular for misogenistic purposes. 69 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 4: Elon Musk is the absolute worst. 70 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 5: If somehow they managed to stumble into the Supreme Court, 71 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 5: do any of you guys trust Uncle Clarence and Amy 72 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 5: Cony Barrett and those guys to actually follow the. 73 00:03:58,120 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: Letter of the law. 74 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 5: No, all right, can even ever begin to read out 75 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 5: tonight with a message to Republicans. 76 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 2: Okay, we get it. 77 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 5: COVID is the precious and you love it. Now are 78 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 5: we have a Republican party that not only at its base, 79 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 5: is becoming putinite pro pudent. 80 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:14,119 Speaker 2: This fourth brag. 81 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 5: Renaming falls under the performative, But the other half, which 82 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 5: is far more serious, sure looks like an attempt to 83 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 5: resegregate the military. 84 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 6: And I thought you would go astronaut keeping it real, 85 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 6: He to me, would have been the safest, most conventionally safe. 86 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 6: Pick white, super white, like you know, mayonnaise sandwich on 87 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:37,119 Speaker 6: wonderbread white from the you know, from a border state. 88 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 5: Similar similarities to what happened in Germany and what's happening 89 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 5: now in America are just undeniable. History may not repeat verbatim, 90 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 5: but it sure does. 91 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:46,119 Speaker 3: Rhyme. 92 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 5: Make your own dinner, Mega, make your own sandwiches, wipe 93 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 5: your own tears, troll amongst yourselves with Elon, and leave 94 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 5: us alone. You got your heart's desire, the president you 95 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 5: dreamed of and worship instead of Jesus. And this time 96 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 5: you didn't even have to storm the capital, smash the windows, 97 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 5: or try to kill police officers or issue death threats 98 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 5: to bool workers. See, when you are in the midst 99 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 5: of a crisis, and specifically a crisis of democracy, how 100 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 5: do you resist when fascism isn't just coming, it's already here. 101 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 5: So what if anything can you do about it? 102 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: All right, joining us to analyze what I believe is 103 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: the death of legacy media and the frankly, the end 104 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,799 Speaker 1: of the modern Democratic Party is it has now embraced 105 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: radicalism and an agenda that favors the rights of illegals 106 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 1: over the safety of Americans and men's rights. They champion 107 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: men's rights to play in women's sports, and of course 108 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 1: they want to justify tens and tens and tens what 109 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: will be hundreds of billions of dollars in waste, fraud, abuse, 110 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: and corruptions spent abroad to advance their radicalism without the 111 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: transparency you would expect from Congress anyway. As our friend 112 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: Miranda Divine, author of the number one best seller of 113 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: The Big Guy, How a President and his Son Sold 114 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: Out America? Miranda, do you agree with me legacy media 115 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: is dead? Do you agree with me that what we 116 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: are witnessing with in Congress is you know, they now 117 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 1: have the lowest approval rating ever is kind of the 118 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 1: end and the death of the old Democratic Party too. 119 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 7: Yeah, Hi, Sean, Look, I think what I would say 120 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 7: is not necessarily legacy media, because I guess that's what 121 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 7: we are at the New York Post and the Fox 122 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 7: News and so on. I think propaganda media is dead. 123 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 7: I think that whether it be MSNBC or the New 124 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 7: York Times, Washington Post, the clock is ticking for them 125 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 7: when they just continue to gaslight and lie to their 126 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 7: audiences because their audiences are wise to them. And we 127 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 7: saw that at the last election, when suddenly people realized 128 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 7: that you know, Donald Trump was not hitler, that the 129 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 7: lawfair against him was completely unjust and unjustified, and that. 130 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 3: You know, they looked at the. 131 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 7: Assassination attempt against him in Butler and the way he responded, 132 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 7: and they thought, hey, that's not the guy that I've 133 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:23,679 Speaker 7: been told that Donald Trump is by my favorite media organs, 134 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 7: And so they switched off. And you see, you just 135 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 7: played all that litany of disasters from Joy Reid. Her audience, 136 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:38,239 Speaker 7: like all her saddlemate's audience at MSNBC, has been cut 137 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:43,239 Speaker 7: by a half. They've lost half their audience since the elections. 138 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 7: And that's because the air audience, even those people who've 139 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 7: been brainwashed and propagandized for years by Joy Reid's particularly 140 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 7: toxic brand of poison and Rachel meadows slightly more sophisticated 141 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 7: brand of poison, they won't. The audience woke up and said, 142 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 7: you aligned to if we're done with you, And I 143 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 7: think that is lethal. The same goes for the Democratic Party, 144 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 7: because of course MSNBC is just a mouthpiece for the 145 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 7: Democratic Party and they're a washed up outfit. Unless they 146 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 7: change direction, they show no sign of doing that, they're dead. 147 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 2: Well. I would make an exception. 148 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: There are a few legacy media outlets like the New 149 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: York Post where where I think you're the top columnist, 150 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: or we'll certainly invite at the top to me and 151 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 1: one of the best authors and investigative reporters in the country, 152 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: and you tell truth, and that is a rare exception 153 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: in legacy media. Okay, I would argue that new media 154 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: began with talk radio, it extended out into Fox News, 155 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: and because Fox is so distinctly different, I don't really 156 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: count it among legacy media. And we're fairly relatively speaking. 157 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: I've made an observation and then this interview that I 158 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: gave to media that I think the model of Fox 159 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: News and talk radio is going to be studied for 160 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,839 Speaker 1: decades and decades and decades to come because of what. 161 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 2: A phenomenon it was. 162 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: And trust me, they gave us no shot of success 163 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: when we started. 164 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 2: We were laughed at. 165 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 7: Yes, that's so true, and yes I agree. I mean 166 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 7: New York Posts you could not say it's anything but 167 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 7: legacy because it's the oldest newspaper in the country. But 168 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 7: I think what Fox News did and what was it's 169 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 7: sort of brilliance apart from you know, great packaging and 170 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 7: much pressure, which really was a pioneering venture, but also 171 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 7: it just gave voice or was middle of the road, 172 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 7: you know, all the news that fit to print, which 173 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 7: is used to be the New York Times motto. It 174 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 7: was fair and balanced, and that was the Fox News motto. 175 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 7: And you know, you put it up against CNN or 176 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 7: MSNBC any day and you will get different voices. You 177 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 7: get Democrats on Fox News. Obviously the preponderance is conservatives, 178 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 7: but there still are democratic voices. And that makes it 179 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 7: more interesting because you see the ying and the yang 180 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 7: and not treating the audience like a bunch of idiots 181 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 7: that are brainwashed. We trust the audience to, you know, 182 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 7: understand an issue and make up their own minds. And 183 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 7: I think that's where MSNBC goes so wrong, because they 184 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 7: just shove their viewpoint down their audience's gullet and they 185 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 7: cannot abide any kind of you know, difference. CNN's a 186 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 7: little different. I think they're trying hard lately to change 187 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 7: the diet a bit. They've got a couple of Republicans 188 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 7: on there, who who in their panels. They're obviously outnumbered, 189 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 7: but they managed to hold their own. So I think 190 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 7: that's showing to see an audiences that. 191 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 8: I don't know. 192 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: I just saw a clip of fake Jake Tapper and 193 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: he goes on a rant against Donald Trump and the 194 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: guy considers himself quoted journalist. I think that's the whole 195 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: premise is is they consider themselves newspeople and journalists. And 196 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: I make a very clear distinction about who I am 197 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: and what my job description is and what I do. 198 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 1: I'm a talk show host. Yes, I'm a member of 199 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: the press, and we do straight news. I can produce 200 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 1: thousands of hours of it, investigative reporting. I can produce 201 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 1: thousands of hours of that. We do opinion. I'm up front. 202 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: I was very clear with the audience like I am. 203 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: Every election, I voted for Donald Trump and advocated for him, 204 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,079 Speaker 1: so on the editorial page, and then we do culture 205 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: and sports and other issues of the day. I consider 206 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: myself an entire newspaper and as a member of the press. 207 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: They claim their journalists, they're not journalists, Miranda. They lie 208 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: about what they are and what they do. 209 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that once you've lost your way, I 210 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 7: don't think that you perhaps should be calling yourself the journalist. 211 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 7: But on the other hand, I think, you know, journalisms 212 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 7: are pretty broad church and it has been produced, particularly 213 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 7: since the Trump era began in twenty sixteen. I think 214 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 7: a lot of people like the deep state, the intelligence community, 215 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 7: a lot of journalists who had forged relationships with various spooks. 216 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 7: They all lost their minds when Donald Trump came along. 217 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 7: A journalists decided to remember the New York Times famously, 218 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 7: the editor said, well, you know, these are different times, 219 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 7: and we can't be objective when it comes to Donald Trump. 220 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 7: And I think the same thing happened with the FBI 221 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 7: and the CIA and so on. They just decided that 222 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 7: they were not going to obey the commander in chief 223 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 7: because it was Donald Trump. They were going to go 224 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 7: off on their own little frolics. And you know, many 225 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 7: disasters ensued until Donald Trump came back to try and 226 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 7: take control of the government again. So it's always a 227 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 7: dangerous path. And you know, their excuse was, especially the journalists, 228 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 7: was that Donald Trump was an existential threat to quote democracy, 229 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 7: whatever that means. And that was their justification for breaking 230 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 7: every single rule in journalism, lying to people being completely biased, 231 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 7: only following certain stories, censoring other stories like the laptop 232 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 7: from Now. 233 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 3: You know, that's not journalism. 234 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 7: They showed none of the normal curiosity that journalism is 235 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 7: meant to show. And you know, I'm an opinion journalist, 236 00:13:55,960 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 7: I write opinion. I'm on the opinion page, I'm perfectly 237 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 7: entitled to only give one side. But when you're on 238 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 7: the news pages, and when I write news stories, which 239 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 7: I do, I make sure that I give both sides. 240 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 7: It's a very different genre, and there should be a 241 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 7: difference between when you are a straight news journalist and 242 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 7: when you're an opinion journalist. And I think for a 243 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 7: lot of them, they've lost that objectivity. And certainly you 244 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 7: see it in the news pages of once respected publications 245 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 7: like the New York Times, in the Washington Post. You 246 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 7: could read some of their news stories as if they 247 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 7: were opinion columns. 248 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: Oh well, nobody does it better than you. You thread 249 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: that needle perfectly, Miranda Devine. We always appreciate you. Thank 250 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: you so much for being one of us. Eight hundred 251 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: and ninety four one. Shawn is our number. If you 252 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: want to be a part of the program. Quick break 253 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: right back. We'll continue. All right, Let's get to our 254 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: busy telephone, shall we. All right, we have Ray in Canada. 255 00:14:56,240 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: I'm very unhappy with Canada right now, and I want 256 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: Canada in the US to be the best allies ever 257 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: as we have been for you know, however, many years 258 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty of plus years, and right now 259 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: I feel that the Canadian people booing our national anthem 260 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: threatening I saw this article yesterday threatening boycotts. Well, we're 261 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: not going to come to America. Okay, they have what 262 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: forty two million in their population America was three hundred 263 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: and forty million. And I've never considered, never supported a 264 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: boycott in my life, but if this gets legs, I 265 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: might consider it anyway. 266 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 2: Ray and Canada, How are you, sir, great John, how 267 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 2: are you good? I'm glad? What's on your mind today? 268 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 3: All the boycott's already begun. It began be poor the 269 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 3: organized boycotts. People are buying. Canadian people aren't going to 270 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 3: Florida in their trips, and they're just looking to sort 271 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 3: of abrogate America basically and say, you know what, you've 272 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 3: disrespected us to this point and we have to respond. 273 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 3: I mean I booing the anthem, I think nobody should 274 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 3: do anybody's anthem. That's disrespect for somebody. 275 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: So you do you support this boycott of people traveling 276 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: to America? 277 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 3: I think people have to decide. But yeah, if they 278 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 3: don't feel comfortable going to America because of this, then 279 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 3: they shouldn't go There are other destinations they can go to, 280 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 3: and it is okay. 281 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: So when I tell this audience has about half your 282 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: population of this radio show, and if I tell my 283 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: audience that I'm supporting an America boycott of Canada, you're 284 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: okay with that? 285 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 3: Well, Trump is already dooing. 286 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 2: Well, you don't like it. 287 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: You wouldn't like it because there's three hundred and forty 288 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: plus million Americans and you have a population of forty 289 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: two million Canadians. And who would be more likely? Who 290 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: would be hurt worse by that boycott? 291 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 2: War? 292 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 3: The number one visitor to Florida is Canadian citizens going 293 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 3: to Florida. 294 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: Who would be hurt more? Because there are plenty of 295 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: Americans to go to Montreal and Quebec and Ontario and 296 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: all sorts of places over Canada. 297 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 2: Who who? In the end, do you think it's hurt 298 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 2: more Canada or the US? 299 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 3: I think we both get hurt with this, this whole 300 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 3: thing that's going on. 301 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: But forty two million versus three hundred and forty million, 302 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: you're gonna get hurt worse. You're hurting yourself by doing this. Now, 303 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: let me tell you why I have issues with Canada, 304 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: and you tell me if you if these are legitimate concerns. 305 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: You do know that Canada already, prior to Donald Trump 306 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 1: winning this election, puts tariffs on American products. 307 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 2: You are aware of. 308 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 3: That, right, absolutely yes, and we have. 309 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: To okay, okay, And you are aware that Canada has 310 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 1: done nothing to stop you know, the inflow, the influx 311 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: of illegal immigrants and securing their northern border. 312 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 3: You do all that, right, absolutely untrue. We put a 313 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 3: one point three billion towards that. 314 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: Now only only only recently have you stepped up enforcement 315 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 1: and a military presence on the border, and that's after 316 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: Donald Trump threatened the tariffs, which he might go through 317 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: with next week. You do know that Canada has not 318 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 1: paid its fair share like America has to NATO. 319 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 3: Right, I agree with you wholeheartedly. We have a twenty 320 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 3: thirty point where we're trying to reach that two percent goal. 321 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 3: It's already been. 322 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 2: Okay, So Canada is not paying their fair share. 323 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: And you do know that probably the greatest defense for Canada, 324 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 1: if God forbid, something ever happens and you guys are 325 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 1: in trouble, would be the United States of America. 326 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 2: You are aware of that. 327 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 3: Oh, it's always has been Absolutely, we have Nora D, 328 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 3: we have protected We need America to do that, but 329 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 3: America needs to do that as well. They're own protected. 330 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 2: America has already been doing all of this. 331 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: And then in comes Donald Trump and he's talked about 332 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: something called reciprocal tariffs, and he's basically saying to Canada, 333 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 1: pay your fair share for NATO alling you out on it, 334 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: do a better job securing your border because we're being 335 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: impacted greatly by it, and it's partly your responsibility too. 336 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: And he is saying that if you're gonna put traye, 337 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: if you're gonna put tariffs on us, we'll have to 338 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: slap tariffs on you. And if you don't do these 339 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: three things, that's really all he's asking, then it's going 340 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 1: to result in America but is slapping a big fat 341 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 1: tariff on Canada. Now, do you think that he's being 342 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 1: unfair in saying that. 343 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 3: Why tariff you have tariffs for like you're farming, for 344 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 3: farming for your agriculture is to. 345 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 1: Protect agriculture poultry that you you won't import any seeds 346 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 1: from the United States. Uh so there's an outright ban 347 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: of certain products. Yeah, I mean I think that's kind 348 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: of unfair, don't. 349 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 3: You don't you think, Sean, that a country needs to 350 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:59,719 Speaker 3: protect the ability for it to feed its people. That 351 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 3: if if we don't protect our farmers in our industries, 352 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 3: the Americans would because of your size. If you said, 353 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 3: three hundred forty to forty million Tyson farms who could 354 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 3: come in here and dump dump all kinds of products 355 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 3: on us, destroyer farming, and we have the inability to 356 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 3: feed ourselves. 357 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 2: Nobody wants to hurt. 358 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: Listen, if my goal for the US and Canada, just 359 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 1: to be very clear is I want us to be 360 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 1: good friends and neighbors. 361 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 2: But it's a two way street. 362 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: And I think that these three specific areas where Donald 363 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: Trump has complaining, you're not pushing back, You're acknowledging these 364 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: legitimate concerns, and that Canada probably could do a better 365 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 1: job in terms of reciprocity. 366 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, I think you're right on. We need to protect. 367 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: So why doesn't Little Justin then just sit down with 368 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: the president Because he's dumb, he's done, he's done well, 369 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 1: he is done, and he's kind of dumb too. I'd 370 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: argue he's both. And I'm not a big a Little 371 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:05,360 Speaker 1: Justin but I'm just saying it's frustrating to Americans when 372 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 1: they learn these things, and Donald Trump, unlike every other politician, 373 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: just refuses to let America be taken advantage of. I mean, 374 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: on top of all of that, your national security is 375 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: almost entirely dependent on the goodwill of the United States military, 376 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: and that is a really, really great benefit to your 377 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: friendship and partnership. So for all the people in Canada 378 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: are friends in Canada. Because I'm not willing to go 379 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: there yet that might be considering this boycott effort against 380 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: the United States. Understand that America is going to respond 381 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: in kind, and I might even join them, because I 382 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: think it's so unfair and frankly unappreciative of what we do, 383 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: and I think as part of a good friendship, I 384 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: think that movement needs to stop. 385 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 3: I don't disagree with you. I think it's I think 386 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 3: remember that the security of Canada benefits the security of 387 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 3: the United States. You need a protected north as much 388 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 3: as we need to protect it north because if Russia 389 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 3: and China start to invade the northwest past but. 390 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 1: We're doing all the protecting for the most part. That's 391 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,959 Speaker 1: the problem. We're bearing the brunt of it. 392 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 3: No, No, it's shared. We're we're we were all we 393 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 3: have an agreement on new icebreakers. We haven't. Nora had 394 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 3: to share. There is shared. 395 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 2: I agree that there is some shared. 396 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: There is there, there is some contribution, but the overwhelming 397 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: majority is provided by the United States military. 398 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 2: It's just a fact. 399 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 3: Can I can I tell you like, I don't disagree 400 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 3: with both. 401 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 2: Listen, I want to get along. 402 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 1: If I was Canada, the maybe maybe the one point 403 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 1: of irritation you would have with Trump you haven't brought 404 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: up yet, and that is when he says, well, Canada 405 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 1: should be the fifty first state. Well, and what he's 406 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 1: let me Let me tell you why I don't want 407 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 1: Canada the fifty first state, because you're too liberal for me. 408 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: You know, I mean, I know you. You have your 409 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 1: single payer healthcare that most Canadians are stuck with. I 410 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: know plenty of Canadians that don't like the system. And 411 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: I know many wealthy Canadians that will come to the 412 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 1: United States for medical care because they can't wait the 413 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 1: six or eight months that they'd have to wait to 414 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: get the treatment that the government so quote guaranteed them. 415 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 1: But I think the better answer is I think that 416 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: I would prefer the Canadians look objectively at whether or 417 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: not they're they're they're being good partners on their and 418 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: first and the benefits they have from the United States, 419 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: and maybe it's time for them to step up as 420 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 1: it relates to these these three issues. And I think 421 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: if they do, I think all will all will go away. 422 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: I think, I think, and then we'll go back to 423 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 1: being best friends again. 424 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 3: I think I know what it's like two siblings wedding 425 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 3: older brother, younger brother. You know, you're getting on my 426 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 3: nerves and right now you're having a time out right now. 427 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 1: But honestly, look, Donald Trump is calling you guys out 428 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: for things that you're acknowledging our work in favor of Canada, 429 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: and you're kind of justifying on the on the tariff deal. 430 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 1: I'm a free trader, free and fair trader, and this 431 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 1: isn't free and fair when you're putting tariffs on us 432 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: and you don't expect tariffs back on you. 433 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 3: But the man that negotiated the USNC is saying that 434 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 3: it's a foolish agreement. He basically said, to anybody of 435 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 3: any of these agreements, they're fool But he negotiated it 436 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 3: and find it so okay. 437 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: But there's still gaps in the coverage of you. Well, 438 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: so I would argue that it's time for Canada to 439 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: do a better job at the border, pay their fair 440 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: share for NATO, and I would have free and fair 441 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: trade across the board, no tariffs on anybody, and we'd 442 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: get along like you know, siblings, the way we should. 443 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 3: It's not possible. I mean, we have to have to protect. 444 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: Certainly you you're you're protecting your you're protecting your industries, 445 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: and if the United States does it back, it's unfair. 446 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 3: The United States has tariffs on softwood lumber as well. 447 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 3: There's terroifts that are ingreened by the States to protect certain. 448 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: That's what reciprocal That's what reciprocal tariffs is going to 449 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,199 Speaker 1: be about. But the problem is, I think that the 450 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:27,959 Speaker 1: Canadian economy is more reliant on the US economy than 451 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: vice versa. I don't think that the In the end, 452 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: I'd rather not have this conflict. In the end, I 453 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: think it's in everyone's best interest to resolve these issues 454 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 1: peacefully and as friends. And and I'll even tip my 455 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: hat Canada won the hockey game is one of the 456 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 1: closest best games I've ever seen. 457 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 3: It was a great game. Actually, the game on Saturday 458 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 3: with the three fights was the best game I ever 459 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 3: saw that. 460 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 2: It was great. 461 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 1: Nine seconds in boom, gloves are off, Let's go game on. 462 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: I loved every minute of it. All right, listen, Just 463 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,719 Speaker 1: something to think about. And when you talk to your 464 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: Canadian friends, know that in the hearts of Americans, we 465 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 1: like the people in Canada, and we we want to 466 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: get along with Canada. But America does have legitimate arguments 467 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 1: back here. 468 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:20,199 Speaker 3: Okay, just still President Trump, that that our kindness and 469 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 3: our politeness doesn't mean we're weak. We're still strong and 470 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 3: we believe in our country and we believe it. 471 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 2: No, but you got to be just be fair. I'm 472 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 2: not asking you not to be strong. 473 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: We want strong neighbors exactly, but don't be But don't 474 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 1: take advantage of us either. 475 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 3: No, I know. But Indiana all right, in the long term, 476 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 3: And it was pleasure to talk to you. By the way, 477 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 3: Katie is a wonderful lady of your call screen of fantastic. 478 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: Oh you're sucking up to the call screen and I 479 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: get it, all right, don't force me to do something 480 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: I've never done in my life or career because I 481 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 1: don't like them, and that's called the boycotts. But you 482 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: guys are starting one and I don't. I don't want 483 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 1: to see this thing at legs. And if it does, 484 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: there's going to be a lot of angry America and 485 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: this thing is going to get way out of control 486 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: and it won't help Canada. 487 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 2: I can tell you that. 488 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 1: Alright, quick break right back, more of your calls eight 489 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: hundred nine one, Shawn. As we continue. 490 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 9: In the world gives you insanity, he gives you common 491 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 9: sense solutions. 492 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 2: This country needs a course correction. 493 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 9: Immediately find your station at Hannity dot com and listen 494 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 9: three hours a day. 495 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: Hi, we continue now with our busy phones. Eight hundred 496 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: nine one, Shawn is our number. Let's say hi to 497 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 1: Ron in South Carolina. 498 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 2: What's up Ron? We only have a minute though, Ron. 499 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 2: How are you? 500 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 8: Hey, Sean, We're doing great. It's good to talk to you. 501 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 8: Just wanted to ask a quick question and get your 502 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,199 Speaker 8: comment on it. With all that does is fining, with 503 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 8: all the fraud that's going on, do you believe that 504 00:27:55,240 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 8: there's going to be prosecution the individuals responsible? And also 505 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 8: I wanted to say too that I know in the interview, 506 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 8: President Trump said that what mister Musk is doing for 507 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 8: our nation as a thankless job. But I think I 508 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 8: speak for a lot of people when I just shout 509 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 8: out to him, thank you, mister Musk very much, and 510 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 8: appreciate all you're doing. 511 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 2: Those were some great. 512 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 3: Interviews you gave there. 513 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 1: I appreciate it, and I'm thankful to mister Musk, who 514 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: and as he said to me, uh, they're not going 515 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 1: to get everything right, and and when they get it wrong, 516 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: they're going to fix it very quickly. 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