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Speaker 3: Touchdown tensas City Sama Jay Pey Ryan his first touchdown

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Speaker 4: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we know what appyrhic victory means.

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Speaker 4: That's what the Chiefs got on Sunday across the street,

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Speaker 4: not even a street.

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Speaker 5: Just like a walkway the way at.

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Speaker 4: Sofi Stadium, seventeen to ten. The Chiefs get the win

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Speaker 4: over the Chargers. Yeah, we're just jumping right into the

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Speaker 4: first game this week, and that first game was attended

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Speaker 4: by Steve Weiss.

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Speaker 5: Of course, this is NFL Daily.

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Speaker 4: I'm with Patrick Claybon in the Chris Wesleyan podcast studio

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Speaker 4: as well. Patrick will be here the whole show. Nick

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Speaker 4: Schook is coming aboard after this game. But we got

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Speaker 4: boots on the ground at a game we want to

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Speaker 4: hear from the man that was there. They get the

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Speaker 4: victory down ten to nothing on the road in the Division. Hey,

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Speaker 4: the Chargers got a ton of injuries. The Chiefs got

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Speaker 4: a ton of injuries of their own. They're not going

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Speaker 4: to apologize for anything, Steve, but you just came from

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Speaker 4: next door and I get the feeling maybe the locker

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Speaker 4: room doesn't have the vibes that you would normally have

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Speaker 4: after a big win like this.

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Speaker 7: I mean the big thing with the Chiefs and that's

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Speaker 7: they're pretty down because wide receiver Rashid Rice, who has

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Speaker 7: been killing it this year, is the leading wide receiver

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Speaker 7: But it seems like they know that he could be

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Speaker 7: part of the guy who felt the worst about is

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Speaker 7: Patrick Mahomes, a quarterback, because he threw an interception on

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Speaker 7: the return he goes to make the tackle. It was

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Speaker 7: his friendly fire that hit Rice in the knee that

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Speaker 7: could cost him his number one receiver.

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Speaker 4: It's such a tough moment as that happened, and I'm thinking, oh,

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Speaker 4: tragic play because Mahomes continues his up and down play.

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Speaker 4: I don't think he's been playing as well, even if

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Speaker 4: He comes in to try to make the tackle on

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Speaker 4: a play that Ray Rice, I mean Rashee Rice rather

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Speaker 4: a point here where their offensive weapons are now Kareem

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Speaker 4: Had a fifty four yard big time play in this game.

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Speaker 4: Travis Kelce goes seven for eighty nine. But they're wide

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Speaker 5: They might not see him again this season.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I get ready for some juju Smith Schuster and

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Speaker 7: you know, they really have to hope that Xavier he

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Speaker 5: He hangs on to the ball every time he has

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Speaker 5: The speed is crazy.

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Speaker 4: The fifty four yard touchdown was just like, hey, run

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Speaker 4: made a big mistake with our survivor pick by the way,

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Speaker 6: No, because Patrick Mahomes adds to this insane record of

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Speaker 6: All right, he comes out to right. It gets another way.

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Speaker 6: But an incredible game by Tully. He was ridiculous. Khalil Mack.

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Speaker 6: The pass rush for the Chargers was great, but yet

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Speaker 6: this mindset stuff and Justin Herbert's playing on a bum ankle.

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Speaker 6: Herbert did all he could, but just with the options

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Speaker 7: He's so tough. I mean, if you can't respect Justin Herbert,

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Speaker 4: And They're four and oh. They are four and oh unbeaten.

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Speaker 4: They're two and two. They are now what two games

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Speaker 4: Man, he took some big hits in this game, and

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Speaker 5: But ultimately JK.

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Speaker 5: And they didn't, and they called the pass.

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Speaker 7: They get stopped, their defense forces a punt, but then

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Speaker 6: Drive to know a gray right there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, when no Gread cut that pass, I was like, oh, man,

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Speaker 7: Everybody even in the the in the press booth, they

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he is back in our lives. Seven catches for

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Speaker 4: And when I mean, Herbert had a crazy throw that

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Speaker 5: It was one of the best throws of the year.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm just saying I'm not putting it as the

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Speaker 5: Lad McConkie goes five for sixty seven.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, it's a weird start to the season because

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Speaker 4: finding ways to When you were there, Steve, again, I

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well, well first off, let's let's start with the

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Speaker 7: Mahomes is one of the most competitive people I've ever

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Speaker 7: With you know how so he holds himself to a

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Speaker 7: they don't play to win September, but otherwise the overall

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Speaker 4: I like the atmosphere when it's half the other team.

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Speaker 5: I love it.

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna listen up to hear the Browns venom though.

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Speaker 5: Race is over there.

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Speaker 4: Texted me about these bad decisions to Shaun Watson's making

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Speaker 5: A little surprising. In the NFC North first and.

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Speaker 9: Goal from the fourteen, Darnold out of the shotgun, puts

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Speaker 5: He'll go that way to the end zone. Caught touch down.

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Speaker 2: How about this?

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Speaker 5: How about it?

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Speaker 4: Paul Allen on kfan there with his buddy Pete Bursich.

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Speaker 5: Of the game.

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Speaker 4: Yes, the Packers did have a chance, not really late,

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Speaker 4: just like such a blowout. Donald's first eight completions were

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Speaker 4: The Packers dropped a possible interception on one of the

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Speaker 8: You could be concerned about why things got a little

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Speaker 8: which is what they did. Another good day from Sam Darnald.

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Speaker 6: There were some signs in the second half because in

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Speaker 8: a game, but it hasn't been catastrophic. So if you

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Speaker 8: run down their schedule, you get the Jets. Next, the

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Speaker 8: Jets who struggle to get pressure, you get to buy,

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Speaker 8: you get Detroit, the Rams, the Colts, the Jags, the Titans.

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Speaker 8: I don't think until you get to Week twelve against

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Speaker 8: the Bears, are any of those teams gonna set up

444
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Speaker 8: a serious challenge for him to where they could capitalize

445
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Speaker 8: and exploit his ball security issues, so we might be

446
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Speaker 8: talking about the Vikings like this for a long time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that Jets game is fascinating. If they can try

448
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Speaker 4: to they're going to try to get to their bye

449
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Speaker 4: week undefeated. Pretty amazing. And Dustin Jefferson, even though the

450
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Speaker 4: numbers aren't quite as stratospheric as they have been, sometimes

451
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Speaker 4: I'm just convinced like he's the best player in the league.

452
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Speaker 5: He's just such a cheeko.

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Speaker 4: He goes six for eighty five in a touchdown and

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Speaker 4: when they really need it, he may the plays. Aaron

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Speaker 4: Jones has also been awesome for them. They end up

456
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Speaker 4: he ends up with one hundred and thirty nine yards

457
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Speaker 4: from scrimmage on twenty six touches, twenty two on the ground.

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Speaker 4: Let's listen to Aaron Jones just talking about how he

459
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Speaker 4: came to Minnesota and he's happy he did.

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Speaker 6: Koc.

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Speaker 10: He's meant he's been everything to me. He's helped me

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Speaker 10: so much in my short time here, and I'm glad

463
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Speaker 10: I made the decision to come here. He's definitely a

464
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Speaker 10: special coach.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Koc absolutely getting that.

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Speaker 4: I was kind of thinking during this game, this is

467
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Speaker 4: like a pass diverging, you know, very early Coach of

468
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Speaker 4: the Year Canadacy game, you know, just because like I'm

469
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Speaker 4: just saying, Lafleur has been incredible these first couple of

470
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Speaker 4: weeks with Malik Willis or something. But Kevin O'Connell says,

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Speaker 4: I'm the boss of this race, and right now I'm

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Speaker 4: the boss of this division. They're now up two games.

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Speaker 4: They have a game in hand over the Packers. They

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Speaker 4: won in Lambeau lamb You know, green Bay at this

475
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Speaker 4: point is probably gonna have to go and win in

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Speaker 4: Minnesota if they want to try to win this division.

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Speaker 4: All right, let's move on to another undefeated team entering Sunday.

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Speaker 4: See if the Steelers stay that way in Indianapolis, this

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Speaker 4: is it down.

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Speaker 11: He's gotta go to pick hims up, coup empty set

481
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Speaker 11: for fields backs, the pass plants still has time.

482
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Speaker 2: Rolls up in the pocket. Pros down field Boss picked

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Speaker 2: off by the Colts.

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Speaker 11: But it's an incomplete pass in ten of downfield for

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Speaker 11: Fan Jefferson and the Colts defense comes up enormous in

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Speaker 11: the fourth quarter with hundred a minute to go, It's

487
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Speaker 11: a turnover.

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Speaker 2: On downs and the Colts aren't gonna win it.

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Speaker 4: A week four, Oh, the Colts defense. I mean, they

490
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Speaker 4: weren't coming up enormous in the fourth quarter until that

491
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Speaker 4: moment after Justin Fields leads the Steelers on a comeback

492
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Speaker 4: that includes three straight touchdown drives in the late third

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Speaker 4: quarter and then two more in the fourth. The Colts

494
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Speaker 4: do get that stop, twenty seven to twenty four. They're

495
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Speaker 4: two and two. Steelers their first loss now at three

496
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Speaker 4: and one took. This is a game where Anthony Richardson

497
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Speaker 4: leaves with a hip injury and Joe Flacco comes in

498
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Speaker 4: and he's beaten teams in the AFC North.

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Speaker 5: It's like twenty twenty three all over again.

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Speaker 8: I wanted to write, the Steelers are probably really tired

501
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Speaker 8: of seeing this guy, until I went back in the

502
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Speaker 8: history and realized they didn't see him last Kay, It's

503
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Speaker 8: just that he saw a bunch of other teams. But yeah,

504
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Speaker 8: it felt eerily similar. Like here it is Joe Flacco

505
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Speaker 8: coming into a game and dealing and handling another AFC

506
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Speaker 8: North team, you know, in a matchup where his team

507
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Speaker 8: didn't expect him to have to play, and suddenly Anthony

508
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Speaker 8: Richardson gets hurt and he has to play, and he

509
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Speaker 8: handles it with the composure of a veteran. Now, Greg,

510
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Speaker 8: I know this irritated to you, and we'll just bring

511
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Speaker 8: it up right now. Anthony Richardson gets hurt and then

512
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Speaker 8: he goes the sideline and he comes back in after

513
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Speaker 8: like a play and they run a designed run for

514
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Speaker 8: him with a hip injury. So of course that doesn't

515
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Speaker 8: work out well for him and he ends up going

516
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Speaker 8: out the rest of the game. I think it sounds

517
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Speaker 8: super serious. It sounds like he could have played if

518
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Speaker 8: they really needed him too, But they have Joe Flacco

519
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Speaker 8: at their disposal. That's why you go get him in

520
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Speaker 8: the offseason. But it was funny because there was a

521
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Speaker 8: bit of a jackal and higher performance from this Colts defense,

522
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Speaker 8: which has kind of been like that through four weeks

523
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Speaker 8: this season. They start early by just bum rushing the

524
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Speaker 8: Steelers offense, just attacking that pass protection and getting after

525
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Speaker 8: Justin Fields, and they build themselves a seventeen to nothing lead,

526
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Speaker 8: and I'm thinking of the Steelers ever gonna get out

527
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Speaker 8: of first gear in this game, because I don't think

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Speaker 8: they are. And then Justin Fields puts the team on

529
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Speaker 8: his back and he's throwing darts and he's using his

530
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Speaker 8: legs and he scores a couple of rushing touchdowns, and

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Speaker 8: I'm like, the Steelers are going, if they have enough time,

532
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Speaker 8: they're gonna come back and win this game. And then

533
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Speaker 8: it all fell apart down the stretch because they couldn't

534
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Speaker 8: protect and they had a weird snap that resulted in

535
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Speaker 8: a fumble and you saw you just heard the last player.

536
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Speaker 8: If you watched on YouTube, you saw it so weird

537
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Speaker 8: back and forth game, but also a fitting first loss

538
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Speaker 8: for the Steelers in the fact that their strength did

539
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Speaker 8: not help them today. Their defense was not their calling

540
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Speaker 8: card today and that was.

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Speaker 4: The problem Fields being able to keep them minut game

542
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Speaker 4: where their defense is not playing well. Overall, I've been like,

543
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Speaker 4: this is a real thing. Patrick, fifty five yards in

544
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Speaker 4: the ground, two rushing touchdowns, three hundred and twelve yards through.

545
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Speaker 5: The air, and a touchdown. They're like, it's happening.

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Speaker 6: No, it's it's real, And it's not just that touchdown

547
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Speaker 6: flurry at the end of the game, which might jump

548
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Speaker 6: out to people. Pittsburgh wins this game if not for

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Speaker 6: a random George Pickens does this thing where he holds

550
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Speaker 6: the ball way away from his body. He had one

551
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Speaker 6: in the first half. Fields hit him on a ball

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Speaker 6: down the sideline. He was inside the five yard line

553
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Speaker 6: and for some reason, George Pickens is flailing the ball around,

554
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Speaker 6: has the ball punched out, and the Colts recover. Because

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Speaker 6: other than that play and just a dominant performance, I

556
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Speaker 6: say it's dominant. The numbers don't leap off at you,

557
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Speaker 6: but against the Pittsburgh Steelers defense, this performance by this

558
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Speaker 6: Colts offensive line, like it really it really showed just

559
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Speaker 6: how solid and strong they are front. Jonathan Taylor goes

560
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Speaker 6: for eighty eight yards at four point two yards per carry.

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Speaker 6: Flacco comes in right where it's not. I feel like,

562
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Speaker 6: because we saw it last year with Cleveland, we kind

563
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Speaker 6: of take it for granted. Did you go Flack? Right?

564
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Speaker 6: It just shows up and plays good football, and it

565
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Speaker 6: seems there's there's other backup quarterbacks. The game's over.

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Speaker 5: In that sitsu, he's thirty nine years old.

567
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Speaker 6: I love it's that tweet. It's like the aging wonder,

568
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Speaker 6: which is you know the guy that you're you're older than.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, I was saying, that's extremely.

570
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Speaker 6: It's a miracle. How's he even breathing?

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Speaker 4: Speaking of which, Joe Flacco spoke with our friend Addie

572
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Speaker 4: Ki Kabwala on CBS after the game.

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Speaker 8: I do have to tell you, Anthony Richardson told us

574
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Speaker 8: that you were cooler than he thought he was.

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Speaker 9: Listen, he told me his mom is eight days older

576
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Speaker 9: than I am.

577
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Speaker 5: So there's no chance in the world that he thinks

578
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Speaker 5: I'm cool. So, uh no, Flacco is cool.

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Speaker 6: He's cool. He's cool. Now we get like the amenable

580
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Speaker 6: dad Flacco after these last couple of years where we've

581
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Speaker 6: come a long way from it's not my job to

582
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Speaker 6: coach the backup to like this fatherly Joe Flacco's hugs

583
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Speaker 6: and smiles and getting there talking about people's moms.

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Speaker 4: And he was injured for a couple of years and

585
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Speaker 4: he's bouncing around and struggling, and I think there is

586
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Speaker 4: something too that maybe he appreciated what he had in life.

587
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Speaker 5: You're not gonna have it forever. Play in this game.

588
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Speaker 4: And he kind of came back with a different attitude

589
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Speaker 4: to his younger quarterback teammates so that he's not threatened

590
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Speaker 4: by anymore.

591
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Speaker 5: And how did he look?

592
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Speaker 4: Shoo, Because I'm going to watch this game more closely later,

593
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Speaker 4: But Josh Downs goes eight for eighty two in a touchdown.

594
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Speaker 4: That's a really good sign for them for him to

595
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Speaker 4: get back going, and Pittman goes for one hundred and thirteen.

596
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Speaker 4: They bogged down a little in the second half. But

597
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Speaker 4: how do you think Flacco looked. I don't think he's

598
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Speaker 4: gonna play next week though based on Richardson after the game,

599
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Speaker 4: we don't know, but he like put his shoulder pads

600
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Speaker 4: on even though the team had ruled him out. I

601
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Speaker 4: think they were just being cautious at that point, but

602
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Speaker 4: it seems like he could be back by How do

603
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Speaker 4: you think Flaco looked?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so downside a hell of a day and a

605
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Speaker 8: lot of that was because of Joe Flacco. And I

606
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Speaker 8: mean he made a few catches where he broke a

607
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Speaker 8: tackle and picked up a key first down here and there,

608
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Speaker 8: especially in the second half, and the run game really

609
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Speaker 8: helped bounce it out. Patrick's completely right. This offensive line

610
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Speaker 8: is very good and you could see it as they're

611
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Speaker 8: handing it off to Jonathan Taylor. But none of this

612
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Speaker 8: gets done without Flacco coming in and handling the job.

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Speaker 6: Well.

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Speaker 8: He looked a lot he did last year. He didn't

615
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Speaker 8: throw for the yardage total that he did in some

616
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Speaker 8: of those games with the Browns, but at the same time,

617
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Speaker 8: He looked just as confident and accurate and shot off

618
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Speaker 8: all the arm talent that he had last year and

619
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Speaker 8: he's had for most of his career like he was nothing.

620
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Speaker 8: He had a nice touchdown pass through coverage that I

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Speaker 8: was just like, Wow, there it is. There's the arm

622
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Speaker 8: right there. And then the best part was as he

623
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Speaker 8: celebrated last year with the Browns and was I feel

624
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Speaker 8: like I'm a kid again. He had the same expression

625
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 8: on his face today and it almost looked like I

626
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 8: could just throw him in a different uniform. It's the

627
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 8: same thing from last year, run down the field with

628
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Speaker 8: his arms out, halving the time of his life. So

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Speaker 8: if look, there's a lot of bad backup quarterback situations

630
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Speaker 8: in the NFL, it does not exist in Indianapolis. After

631
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Speaker 8: doing it with Gardner Minshew last year, they're at a

632
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Speaker 8: step above that with Joe Flacco and with Shane Stiken's

633
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Speaker 8: doing there. Their offense looked different by the way, as

634
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Speaker 8: naturally it would. You're not going to run with him,

635
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Speaker 8: but overall he stepped right in and didn't miss a beat.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

637
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Speaker 4: I think Stichen saw that Steelers defense, which is great

638
00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 4: but not like complicated. You kind of know what you're

639
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Speaker 4: going to get from them, and they were able to

640
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,439
Speaker 4: execute him for a while in this game. Now this

641
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 4: Colt's last touchdown, which was flak out of Ogletree, came

642
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 4: after a controversial penalty by Minca Fitzpatrick. It was an

643
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Speaker 4: unnecessary roughness. Let's listen to Minca.

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Speaker 12: I mean, I thought we were playing football. I don't

645
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 12: know what we're playing at this point, very different game

646
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Speaker 12: than what I grew up playing, and what I grew up.

647
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Speaker 12: Can't hit nobody hard. I can't be violent, So I

648
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Speaker 12: don't know. I don't know what to say in here.

649
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 4: Can't be violent. Minca Fitzpatrick says. That was a courtesy

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Speaker 4: of Chris Adamski of the Pittsburgh Tribune Review. It's kind

651
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Speaker 4: of interesting to me, And you could tell me if

652
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Speaker 4: you thought it was a good caller, bad call shook.

653
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Speaker 4: But I thought it was interesting that Minka could have

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Speaker 4: been called for a penalty. I thought, on the play

655
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 4: that injured Anthony Richardson, it's kind of a late hit.

656
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 4: I mean, it was one of those old Cam Newton

657
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 4: plays where he doesn't get the call because it didn't look.

658
00:28:58,680 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 5: Crazy, but he slid.

659
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 4: And if that was like Bryce Young and then you

660
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 4: hit him after sliding the quarterback would have gone spinning

661
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 4: because it was Richardson.

662
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 5: Not so much.

663
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 4: But he didn't get the call there. He did get

664
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 4: the call later in the game. Do you think it

665
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 4: was the right call when they did make.

666
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:18,959
Speaker 8: It bang bang yes? On replay No, because as soon

667
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 8: as it happened, it was one of those ooh hits

668
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 8: and you're like, oh, he was defenseless, that's probably gonna

669
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 8: draw a flag. And it did, and it made sense.

670
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 8: And then he looked at the replay and he didn't

671
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 8: go for the head. It was basically shoulder to shoulder.

672
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 8: The head was nearby, but it didn't really qualify and

673
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 8: I think they said that on the broadcast too. So

674
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 8: it's a bummer. But like football's played an incredibly fast speed,

675
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 8: especially when you're at field level, and it's hard to

676
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 8: make those judgment calls. But again I will say this,

677
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 8: I know it bought them, you know, another opportunity to

678
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 8: go down and score a touchdown, But football usually decided

679
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 8: by like five or seven key plays. That could be

680
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 8: one of them. But also, you buried yourself in a

681
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 8: seventeen to nothing hold. I didn't lose you the game

682
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 8: as much as the entire game did well.

683
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 4: And you also when they got the ball back and

684
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 4: your offense was cooking at that point with a couple

685
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 4: of minutes left, just earlier than the two minute warning,

686
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 4: you have the ball at the thirty eight yard line

687
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 4: rather the forty two yard line with a first and

688
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 4: ten with one forty three to go. That's that's a

689
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 4: lifetime only down three and an early shotgun snap hits

690
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 4: justin fields like in the face or so, and that

691
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 4: puts them behind the sticks. They miss a throw that

692
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 4: down the field and they pick up you know, the

693
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 4: eleven yards on like a third and twenty two, and

694
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 4: that that led to.

695
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 8: And Naji Harris doesn't he doesn't get out of bound.

696
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,959
Speaker 8: So the plot keeps running and it basically, you know,

697
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 8: ruin their chances.

698
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 4: So you know, they played outstanding on offense until that drive.

699
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 4: Dio Adingbo got seven pressures for the Colts, who got

700
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 4: a lot of pressures without blitzing in this game. So

701
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 4: if you can do that, you can win a lot

702
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 4: of games. Let's move on, and now we're out of

703
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 4: the undefeated area, but we're still with a very compelling game,

704
00:30:55,280 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 4: a surprising one in a rainy New Jersey.

705
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 13: Missed from fifty, Sir line from fifty to give the

706
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 13: Jets to lead fifty one seconds to go out of

707
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 13: the hold of more skit.

708
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 5: The snap, the placement down, the kick is.

709
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 13: On the way, It's got plenty of distance, and it

710
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 13: is no good.

711
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 2: It floated right.

712
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 13: Heartbreak for the Jets at Sir lime, howd it curve

713
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 13: off to the right and he can't hit from fifty

714
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 13: And it looks like the Broncos will hold on and

715
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 13: win this game by a point. Both kickers in tough

716
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 13: conditions can't convert.

717
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 5: They could not greg the leg misses.

718
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 4: That was waxq Bob was choosing a surprising ten to

719
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 4: nine loss by the New York Jets before they get

720
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 4: on a flight later this week for London. Bronco's at

721
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 4: two and two, Jets now at two and two. Fascinating

722
00:31:55,800 --> 00:32:00,040
Speaker 4: game here, Patrick, But I keep going back to the

723
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 4: fact that the Jets had two opportunities in the last

724
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 4: couple of minutes to win this game, and the three

725
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 4: plays that preceded that fifty yard missed field goal were

726
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 4: ultimately failures to the Jets not being able to advance

727
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 4: the ball and get the ball closer in tough conditions

728
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 4: for their court, their kicker, and Aaron Rodgers and the

729
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 4: Jets offense come up short.

730
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, and a tremendous performance by this Broncos defense in

731
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 6: what you called a compelling game. It was not pretty.

732
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 6: It was certainly not a fun game.

733
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 5: But it was weird to me.

734
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 4: I was kind of fascinated by it because it just

735
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 4: looks so weird, like, Wow, what the heck is going

736
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 4: on here?

737
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 6: Well, what we saw was just a good pressure defense.

738
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 6: Rodgers was running. We saw Rodgers run against the Patriots,

739
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 6: A scrambled for some first downs. He was getting away

740
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 6: and getting out. But it was not the same. Just

741
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 6: the first loss for Aaron Rodgers in his career where

742
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 6: he didn't score a touchdown at home. Like that's how

743
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 6: good advanced Joseph's defense was today. And we've come a

744
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 6: long way from Gray the leg from fifty seven in

745
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 6: the super Dome to the Rams to the Super Bowl.

746
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 6: That fifty yard ers sprays to the sprays to the right.

747
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 6: But this is a game where bo Nicks in the

748
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 6: first half was seven of fifteen for seven yards passing

749
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 6: for negative seven yards passing. Excuse me, that was the

750
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 6: important part. Negative seven yards through the air. They had one.

751
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 5: Play what yeah, in the first half, how deep into

752
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 5: it in.

753
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 6: The first half. His first half stat line seven of

754
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 6: fifteen for negative seven yards. It's amazing. It was a

755
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 6: struggle on offense. But in the second half, really that

756
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 6: defense because Rogers had a strip sack in that fourth quarter,

757
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 6: I think six minutes to go. Next drive did absolutely nothing.

758
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 6: They kept coming up short miscommunications between he and Garrett Wilson.

759
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 6: But it's tough to pin this all on the Jets

760
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 6: offense because Patrick's are ten yet again played a spectacular

761
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 6: football game. There was one particular play where Garrett Wilson's

762
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 6: coming in motion and it's very tough for the opposing

763
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 6: corner to come all the way tracking a guy on motion,

764
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 6: navigating all the traffic and then getting to them on

765
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 6: the screen, and he did just that for like a

766
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 6: two yard game. Just a great defensive performance. We can

767
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 6: discuss the Jets being on fraud watch, but that's back

768
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 6: to back week where the Broncos are on the road

769
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 6: and their defense just stifles a quarterback with the week

770
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 6: before was red hot.

771
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 4: That's a great point and so Certan I don't think

772
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 4: even face the target in the first half. He ends

773
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 4: up facing three targets in coverage against Garrett Wilson in

774
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 4: the second half two catches for twenty two yards twenty

775
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 4: five routes. You're just not seeing guys shut down opposing

776
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 4: number ones like that. Then again, this Broncos defense was

777
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 4: great overall. They blitzed forty nine percent of the time,

778
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 4: so they should keep their lead. They are the heaviest

779
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 4: blitz team in the NFL, and opposing offenses aren't really

780
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 4: dealing with it well. Rogers's time to throw is two

781
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 4: point five, which is actually quite low. Then again, he

782
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,359
Speaker 4: held onto the ball on a lot of those and

783
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 4: got sacked five sacks, fourteen quarterback hits. It's one thing

784
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 4: I've known noticed this season. He's take a taking a

785
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 4: lot of hits almost every week. Titans hit him a lot.

786
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 4: Patriots actually did hit him a decent amount eight tackles

787
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 4: for loss in this game. Meanwhile, the Jets get like

788
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 4: no pressure on the other side. I've been really impressed

789
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 4: with this Broncos defense. Shook, and I guess we got

790
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 4: to start taking them somewhat seriously. Even if bo Nick's

791
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 4: sixty passing yards is the least in a quarterback win

792
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 4: since Eli Manning did it back in two thousand and seven.

793
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 4: Somehow not surprising to me that that did it. Maybe

794
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:36,879
Speaker 4: maybe also in MetLife.

795
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 8: What you're saying is Bonickx's two Super Bowl rings away

796
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 8: from making the Hall of Fame.

797
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 4: Go see Eli's, by the way, is up for up

798
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 4: for debate this year, and I don't think he's going

799
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 4: to be first ballot.

800
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 5: I think we can at.

801
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 8: Least, but he'll get in. He'll get an eventually. It

802
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 8: is crazy. It's crazy to see a game, a team

803
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 8: win a game with sixty passing yards like from a quarterback.

804
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 8: It is nuts. But on the flip side, like I

805
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 8: think about the Jets offensive approach because it's just been

806
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 8: so up and down through four weeks, like they had

807
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 8: they were stifled by the Niners in Week one, they

808
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 8: get back on track, they end up, you know, looking

809
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 8: like gangbusters, like world beaters in Week three against the Patriots,

810
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 8: and then they come back to earth with this and

811
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 8: I you know, we talk about the Broncos defense and

812
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 8: how good it is, but if you look at them statistically,

813
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,479
Speaker 8: they were twenty second in the league against the run,

814
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 8: Like that should be their weakness, that should be where

815
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 8: you attack them and it's raining at MetLife Stadium. Why

816
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 8: are you throwing the football forty two times in a

817
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 8: game that finished ten to nine. I need to know that.

818
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 8: Why is your run past difference? It's sixty seven point

819
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 8: one percent past to run like that's a that's a

820
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 8: failure on the part of the coaching staff in coaching

821
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 8: within the game, in my opinion, and putting it all

822
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 8: on the shoulders of Rogers and you just don't help

823
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 8: your offense out that way. So I think that's something

824
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 8: that the Jets have to iron out.

825
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 4: They don't forget it was the Nate Hackett revenge game.

826
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 4: Supposedly Aaron was going to try extra hard. The extra

827
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 4: hard didn't really pan out. They gave Breese hall tien carries.

828
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 4: He got four yards out of it. Really, Braylan Allen

829
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 4: was the guy that was having success.

830
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 5: I keep banging this drum.

831
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 4: Bresol had a zero percent success rate today, Brailen Allen

832
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 4: seventy five percent his runs were successful. To me, their

833
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,879
Speaker 4: running game just looks a little more in sync when

834
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 4: he runs at Breeshaw sometimes is looking for the big play,

835
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,439
Speaker 4: and yet you can't get too mad at the play

836
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 4: caller with the Jets because Rogers ultimately is the play caller.

837
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 4: He has a lot of options at the line of

838
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 4: scrimmage to choose, okay, depending on the look, and most

839
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 4: of the time you're going to trust him to make

840
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 4: that right decision. Today he leaned towards the pass and

841
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 4: you could see how disappointing was. At the end of

842
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:40,240
Speaker 4: the game, he just puts a towel over his head

843
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,720
Speaker 4: and I saw someone right. It's just like it was like, Okay,

844
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 4: you're now officially a member of the Jets. I'm not

845
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 4: going to go that dark. I'm not sure about froudwatch

846
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 4: we'll see. It's a big game in Minnesota though. Have

847
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 4: to figure out how to protect Rogers against the blitz.

848
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 4: But yeah, Rogers was very disappointed after the game.

849
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 14: We were kind of killing ourselves. As you know, I

850
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 14: can't say I had a spectacular game. I missed some throws.

851
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 14: You know, the weather sucked, but so did some of

852
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 14: my throws. So you know, we had some chances, but

853
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 14: you know, way too many mental mistakes. But when your

854
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 14: defense holes on the ten, you got to you gotta

855
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 14: win the game on hundred percent of the time. So

856
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 14: that's on the offense. It's on me. Yeah, not good enough.

857
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was not good enough. Jonathan Franklin Myers with

858
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 4: a little revenge game. Quiet little trade that the Broncos

859
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 4: made on Draft Day, the kind of money related I

860
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 4: believe because they were expecting Hassan Reddick to come on

861
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 4: the books, then they kind of could use Jonathan Franklin

862
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:41,439
Speaker 4: Myers right about.

863
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 5: Now, all right, we're going.

864
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 4: To take a quick break and we'll be back with

865
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 4: maybe my favorite game of the day.

866
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 15: Oh so, now it comes down to Young Way two

867
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,760
Speaker 15: to try and win the game for Atlanta. A fifty

868
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 15: eight yard try to win the game was seven seconds left,

869
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 15: snap spot kick from ko is away.

870
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 3: And it is good.

871
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 2: Fifty eight and the money shot for young boy Koo.

872
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 5: That is a great call by West Durham. On w

873
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 5: z g C.

874
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 4: It's time for the Sunday Drive presented by the all

875
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 4: new hybrid Toyota Camry. And yeah, we had to save

876
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 4: it for what I thought might have been the game

877
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 4: of the day, the rivalry of the league. This Falcon

878
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 4: Saints game had everything that you would have wanted, plays

879
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 4: that both teams would have regretted if they lost. Both

880
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 4: teams kind of finding different ways to let the other

881
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,879
Speaker 4: team in but a lot of fun. The Falcons win

882
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 4: without an offensive touchdown. They win with a deflected pick

883
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 4: six and a fumbled punt that they recover in the

884
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 4: end zone on a day they were mostly outplayed. They

885
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 4: also won on a penalty by Paulson Adebo, who sets

886
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 4: up that long Coup field goal and the Falcons couldn't

887
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 4: get any closer. And yeah, young waykup. Maybe he was

888
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 4: listening on the Manning cast like me in week two

889
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 4: and he heard Bill Belichick talk about him and he said, oh, yeah,

890
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 4: we had Coup in our building for a little bit,

891
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 4: which I forgot about for a minute. He's like, he's

892
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 4: very accurate, but not really good from distance, doesn't have

893
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 4: much distance.

894
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 6: Take that, Bill.

895
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 4: It's like, have you seen how much that dude's been

896
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 4: in the weight room. I was next to him on

897
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 4: the field and one in London one year. That dude

898
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 4: is thick, he's strong, and yeah he hits it from

899
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 4: fifty eight and what a missed opportunity Patrick for the

900
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 4: Saints in this one.

901
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, just to the giveaways. You mentioned the judaon tip

902
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:01,280
Speaker 6: pass that was pick six. Rashiz He'd for some reason

903
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,720
Speaker 6: getting turned around. Maybe is the fact that he's spun

904
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,720
Speaker 6: to try to catch the punt, but he was inside

905
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 6: the three when he tried to field a punt and

906
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 6: he hoffed it. The defense played well. They lost Tyer

907
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,760
Speaker 6: Matthew I think in the middle of the second half

908
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 6: having to play without him. A man down. Paulson adball

909
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 6: in that pass interference call. The ball was underthrown. He

910
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 6: could have turned around and got a chance to make

911
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 6: a play, but he went ahead and grabbed the receiver

912
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 6: because I guess he thought that was in the situation.

913
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 6: And after that, so the Falcons have a first down

914
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 6: already inside Young Wayku's extensive range, you know, much to

915
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 6: the chagrin of Bill Belichick, and they get nothing. There's

916
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 6: three straight plays where for some reason, Kirk Cousins is

917
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 6: taking deep shots inside the twenty yard line. They go

918
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 6: zero for three on those attempts and get nothing for

919
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 6: Young Wayku, who bails out his team with a fifty

920
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 6: eight yard kick. That were people you're not watching the game.

921
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 6: You're thinking, oh, they get down there in a PI

922
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 6: called the last second. No, they had tom and they

923
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 6: did not make it any easier for Coup. Much like

924
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 6: the Saints team just made it easy for the Falcons

925
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 6: to win with all these mistakes.

926
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, sometimes I think Cousins is like a robot and

927
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 4: he just does what he's programmed to do. And like,

928
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,720
Speaker 4: I think that's just where the progression took him because

929
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 4: they were taking they probably were trying to take away

930
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 4: the sideline routes. They had no time out at the time.

931
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 4: So it would have been interesting too if he had

932
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 4: hit that last one to Mooney because they snapped that

933
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 4: ball with thirteen seconds and it was a downfield throw.

934
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 4: If he had caught that around the twenty in bounds

935
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 4: like that would have been, they might have lost the

936
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 4: game right there. Mooney, though, runs great routes and he

937
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 4: figured out a way. He's kind of been Kirk Cousins's guy.

938
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 4: What a weird spot, though. I want to get on

939
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 4: Dennis Allen just a little bit or going for the

940
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 4: touch back at the end. Have you noticed this, Nick,

941
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 4: I've kind of been tracking late game situations, not much

942
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 4: time left, and these co coaches who they go for

943
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:06,240
Speaker 4: the touchback in that scenario, which gives the other team

944
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 4: the ball at the thirty and takes no time off

945
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 4: the clock, And it just seems like coaching scared, like, hey,

946
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 4: we don't feel like we can coach this well enough.

947
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 4: The average return right now is actually when it's being returned,

948
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 4: is only going to like the twenty five or twenty six.

949
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 4: So more times than not, you're actually doing well that

950
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 4: the Texans, who will talk about later, in a very

951
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 4: similar in a similar situation, kicked it and they were

952
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 4: They got the benefit of a penalty on the Jaguars,

953
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 4: and the ball ended up being like at the ten

954
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 4: yard line. So that I've seen that a bunch of times.

955
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 4: It's not just Dennis Allen, but it puts it at

956
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 4: the thirty where you only need like in this case,

957
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 4: like what twenty five yards, and suddenly you're kicking a

958
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 4: game when you feel goal.

959
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:47,399
Speaker 6: Yeah.

960
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 8: I wonder if coaches are so afraid of the dynamic

961
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 8: kickoff that they'd rather just give up the extra five

962
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 8: yards in the time, Like it doesn't really make sense,

963
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 8: because that's what.

964
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 5: I mean, I get it they are, Yeah, but that's stuff.

965
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 8: Average is usually like the twenty six.

966
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 4: You talk about competing all week, Why don't we compete

967
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 4: play a little football?

968
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,760
Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly. Put your money where your mouth is. Dennis

969
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 8: Allen and every other coach. How about coaches that need

970
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 8: to bleed clock and throw the ball on second down

971
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 8: when they just need to drain clock. You're gonna drop me.

972
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 8: I'm gonna go on a whole soap box here. Let's

973
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,720
Speaker 8: not go there. This is gonna I think, sit back

974
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 8: for the Saints and they're gonna be a few weeks

975
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 8: ahead and be like, man, game should have won. Like

976
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 8: it's hard to win games in this league. It's really

977
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 8: hard to win games in this league that you think

978
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 8: you should win, and then you give them opportunities to

979
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 8: take it from you, like fifty eight yards is no joke,

980
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 8: but young Waiku just bangs it through. This is a

981
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 8: game that you should be able to feel confident that, hey,

982
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 8: we've played well enough, we've outplayed them, we deserve this win.

983
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 8: Let's close it. And they didn't close it, and coaching

984
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 8: coaches coaching scare.

985
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 4: So they scored three offensive touchdowns and the Falcons didn't

986
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 4: score any, and they lost.

987
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 6: And they lost.

988
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 4: I can't imagine that's happened many times. It's very similar

989
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 4: to the stat about the Commanders and the Giants and

990
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 4: the Giants in Week two. In the difference in this

991
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 4: case is the Falcons did get a couple of touchdowns,

992
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 4: they were just from a pick six, which was you know,

993
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 4: Derek Carr said after the game, I did hold it

994
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 4: too long, and that's probably true.

995
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,399
Speaker 5: He shouldn't have tried to jam it in there.

996
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 4: But also, like we can just be real when luck

997
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,240
Speaker 4: is a massive, massive part of the game. It bounces

998
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 4: up in such a way and is caught on the

999
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 4: pick six and it was.

1000
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 5: Kind of bad luck.

1001
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, you could try.

1002
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 4: I thought Derek Carr played pretty well in this game.

1003
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,720
Speaker 4: Actually there was a couple moments when when they were driving,

1004
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 4: but for the most part I thought he played Well,

1005
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 4: what were you going to say?

1006
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: So?

1007
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, No, the connection with the Lave you can see

1008
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 6: that start to get better as the season goes on.

1009
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 6: But you could go out back and get your friend

1010
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 6: to stand about five yards away from you and throw

1011
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 6: the ball at their elbow and try to get it

1012
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 6: to ricochet into the air like happened where the ball

1013
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 6: comes off of Derek Carr's hand, goes to Matt Judon's

1014
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 6: bottom elbow and somehow goes up into the air right

1015
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 6: twenty yards and is a pick six.

1016
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,240
Speaker 4: I think both of these teams have to be concerned

1017
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 4: about their pass rushes. Both quarterbacks they thought had too

1018
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 4: much time in this game. Cousins had a lot of

1019
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 4: time early in this games pass rush really wasn't getting

1020
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 4: their Cousins still is not moving well. Like when he

1021
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 4: is given time, he spins it. He actually had a

1022
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 4: handful of really nice throws in this game. But again,

1023
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 4: if you look at his numbers on play action or

1024
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,839
Speaker 4: outside the pocket or under center, it's very minimal and

1025
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 4: it's like negligible production when he's doing it. I think

1026
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 4: he was like four for six for like under thirty

1027
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 4: yards on play action and so he's just very limited

1028
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 4: in what he can do. Like I said, though, when

1029
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 4: they given time, he spun it a handful of times

1030
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 4: in this game.

1031
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1032
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 8: That kills me though, because like again, coach to your

1033
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 8: your strengths, coach to the strength.

1034
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 5: But he can't move. No, he can't move.

1035
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 8: I know that. That really pains me. And then you're

1036
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 8: going to ask him to hold the balllogger too. I

1037
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 8: mean twenty five attempts over two and a half seconds

1038
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 8: like that, that's kind of that's Jalen Hurts and the Eagles.

1039
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:51,919
Speaker 5: Yeah, Kirk Cousins is not Jalen hurts.

1040
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 4: Okay, he was three for six on play action for

1041
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 4: twenty eight yards, two for three outside the tackle box,

1042
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 4: and yeah, I mentioned Car ending up and down a game.

1043
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 4: You know they got the ball. It's Saints Falcons. They

1044
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 4: had just failed on a fourth down inside the Atlanta

1045
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 4: Falcons ten yard line with about four minutes to go,

1046
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 4: and you thought, oh, that might have been their last chance.

1047
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 5: I like that Dennis Allen went for it there.

1048
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 4: I want to give him some credit actually, because they

1049
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,439
Speaker 4: could have tried to cut the lead to three. Got

1050
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 4: the ball back and stop means said he went for

1051
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 4: the touchdown, and they sent some blitzes after Car. He

1052
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 4: might have been a little panicked and got rid of

1053
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 4: the ball too quickly, and that was probably his worst

1054
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 4: moments in what was otherwise a good game. But then

1055
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 4: he gets the ball back. Saints force a really ugly

1056
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 4: three and out by the Falcons. They get the ball

1057
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 4: back on the Atlanta forty two and despite some boneheaded

1058
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:48,240
Speaker 4: penalties and by his teammates Rashid Jahed and the offensive

1059
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,839
Speaker 4: line makes a mistake, Carr has a nice drive down

1060
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 4: to the goal line, and what I thought was going

1061
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 4: to be like one of the touchdown calls of the day.

1062
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 4: Alvin Kamara, who had just a heroic game despite a

1063
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 4: broken ribs, gives them a go ahead touchdown.

1064
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 2: Two tight ends I filmation borrow.

1065
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 16: Hand off Albert Jamera, he gets pushed into the endzipe.

1066
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:15,280
Speaker 16: I had a predis Albert Camera touchdown.

1067
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 4: New who that tied the game with the extra point

1068
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 4: to follow with a minute left? That was Mike cossin

1069
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 4: ww L. And yeah, just as a fan of Alvin Kamara.

1070
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,720
Speaker 4: Seventy seven yards on the ground with that touchdown, seven

1071
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 4: catches for forty two yards in the air, playing with

1072
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 4: a broken rib. Derek Carr said after the game, like

1073
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 4: he reminds me so much of Marshall Lynch. I just

1074
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 4: who people might forget was with Derek Carr in Oakland

1075
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,760
Speaker 4: at one point and just says, those two guys love football,

1076
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 4: maybe more than anyone I've ever known. Taysom Hill, I

1077
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 4: also think loves football a lot. Was massive in this game.

1078
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,879
Speaker 4: I think was going to have a big workload. Had

1079
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 4: six carries early with two touchdowns, playing with a rused lung.

1080
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 4: Another guy that loves football, and then he suffers a

1081
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,280
Speaker 4: rib injury on the other side of his body according

1082
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 4: to Dennis Allen, and was knocked out of the game,

1083
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 4: so they didn't even want to use Kamara that much.

1084
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 4: A lobby was going in and out with like a

1085
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 4: hamstring injury.

1086
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:17,280
Speaker 5: It was a lot. It was Falcon Saints. It always delivers.

1087
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,520
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1090
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 4: that's enough of these like close, really entertaining games. Let's

1091
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 4: go to a really entertaining blowout in Arizona.

1092
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 6: Third and goal from the ten eight forty to go

1093
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 6: fourth quarter. Here's the snap. Arizona Brigs score, plenty of

1094
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:43,919
Speaker 6: time for Jaden throws over to the middle into the eds.

1095
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 8: Of Dennis tar touchdown, touchdown Washington.

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00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 2: Terry McLaurin. Back to that weeks for a score of

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00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 2: the four.

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00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 4: I love hearing the glee every week from Bram Weinstein

1099
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 4: of wb IG. You can just tell this guy's having

1100
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 4: the time of his life, as are all Commanders, employees

1101
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 4: and fans.

1102
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 5: Of which I guess he's won. He's an employee.

1103
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 4: Jaden Daniels goes twenty six for thirty two hundred and

1104
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 4: thirty three yards through the air.

1105
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 5: With a touchdown and a pick.

1106
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 4: Also runs for forty seven yards on the ground. The

1107
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 4: Washington Commanders are three to one and they lay the

1108
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 4: SmackDown on the Cardinals forty two to fourteen on the road.

1109
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 6: Where the defense hasn't really performed recently was they had

1110
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 6: to have a win and a score fest where they

1111
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 6: scored every time against the Cincinnati Bengals. I thought it

1112
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 6: was going to be up and down the field, and

1113
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,839
Speaker 6: to start things off it was the Cardinals go right down.

1114
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 6: Kyler has a touchdown pass to Marvin Harrison Junior right

1115
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 6: after Jayden leads things off with a touchdown run, but

1116
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:58,280
Speaker 6: eventually the defense gets pressure on Kyler. Kyler is sixteen

1117
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 6: of twenty two. A lot of those, a lot of

1118
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 6: those incompletions came on third down where Arizona was ultimately

1119
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 6: four of eleven on the day. But it's tough to

1120
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 6: not watch this game and come away with, oh my god.

1121
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 6: Jaden Daniels is legit for the second week, only four

1122
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 6: in completions, including an interception. Second game in a row

1123
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,839
Speaker 6: where Jayden has had this random miss where the ball

1124
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 6: doesn't go anywhere near where he wants to go. It's

1125
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 6: actually behind the defender as well. He kind of makes

1126
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 6: a great one handed grab. Other than that, pretty much

1127
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 6: a perfect game where also Brian Robinson Junior goes over

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00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 6: one hundred yards on twenty one carries. He's averaging almost

1129
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 6: five yards to carry in this game. And Cliff Kingsbury

1130
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:38,320
Speaker 6: comes back afterwards. Dan Quinn, laying just a litany of

1131
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 6: f bombs in the locker room, says that Cliff Kingsbury

1132
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 6: is not leaving this blanking city without a blanking game

1133
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 6: ball and tosses it to Cliff and they're going crazy

1134
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 6: in lock Everything's coming up Commanders right now. Show is

1135
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 6: this their world? They're leading the NFC East.

1136
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 8: Never, this is also a Cliff Kingsbury revenge game, by

1137
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 8: the way, I got a side note. Never in a

1138
00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 8: world that I think that we would be praising so

1139
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 8: much Cliff Kingsbury so much just because of the way

1140
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 8: that his tenure went with Arizona. But here we are,

1141
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 8: and you know what, let's take a moment here on

1142
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 8: a very happy day, somber moment, pour one out metaphorically.

1143
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 8: The possession streak ends at oh Okay, okay, it finally ended.

1144
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 8: They finally didn't score on a possession. But that's how

1145
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 8: good they've been. They've been dominant. They've been pumping the

1146
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 8: ball in the end zone. Jade Daniels, he completes, his

1147
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 8: completion percentage was eighty six point seven percent. That's after

1148
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 8: he set the rookie record last week and that went

1149
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 8: over the Bengals. You can't stop these guys. They're a machine.

1150
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 8: No Austin Eckler because he's in concussion protocol, no problem.

1151
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,800
Speaker 8: Jeremy McNichols, come on down. Eight carries, sixty eight yards,

1152
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 8: two touchdowns. Throw anybody in there. This offense is a

1153
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 8: well oiled machine. All we need to do is put

1154
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 8: warm bodies in there. We're going to blow you out

1155
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:45,320
Speaker 8: of your own stadium.

1156
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1157
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 4: The success rate for Brian Robinson, Jeremy McNichols, and Jaden Daniels,

1158
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 4: all of them were individually over fifty percent, which is

1159
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 4: like a huge number when you're running the ball. So

1160
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,359
Speaker 4: it just shows it doesn't matter who it is. Yes,

1161
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 4: Daniels is obviously special and choose as well when to run.

1162
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 4: I think he's gotten a little more careful over the

1163
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 4: last couple of weeks, which is a great sign. But

1164
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 4: the offensive line, that's the one thing I think Kingsbury

1165
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 4: deserves the most credit for. Really the thing that he

1166
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 4: did well in Arizona I thought was coach up and

1167
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 4: have a good offensive line despite you know that you

1168
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 4: looked at the talent and you weren't really sure.

1169
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:23,800
Speaker 5: And they've been very good.

1170
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 4: And it's not just to throw the ball behind the

1171
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 4: line a scrimmage thing. Patrick Jaden Daniels was five for

1172
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 4: five under pressure today, so when they got some heat,

1173
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 4: which wasn't too often, five passes under pressure is not

1174
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 4: a lot. He was complete and seven for nine on

1175
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 4: throws between ten and nineteen yards, so he's been pretty

1176
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 4: good on the mid range. The deep balls haven't really

1177
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 4: happened except for the two famous plays now from that

1178
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 4: Monday night game. But it's amazing this team could I

1179
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 4: don't know what this team could do.

1180
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 5: Well, could win the division?

1181
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 2: Why not?

1182
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 6: And honestly, because the defenders are scared to get too

1183
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 6: far upfield, you have to be honest about your rush

1184
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 6: lands because you don't know when Jayden's gonna pull down.

1185
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 6: He's making the decisions very very well. Is get coming

1186
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:08,839
Speaker 6: into this game. It was two point five to one

1187
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 6: second snap to throw or we just talked about Rogers

1188
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 6: getting rid of the ball in that range in a

1189
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 6: slug fest where they couldn't move the ball at all.

1190
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 6: That's that's how quickly Jaden's been getting It seems like

1191
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 6: perhaps the Giants in that field goal Festival a few

1192
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 6: weeks ago had the best game plan with Jayden Daniels in.

1193
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 5: I mean they didn't stop him though, I mean, right,

1194
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:35,320
Speaker 5: they stop twenty Yeah, yeah, that's true.

1195
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 4: I mean they were just like when they were blowing

1196
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 4: open holes in the red zone. It was just these

1197
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 4: were they were easy. The Cardinals defense played a little

1198
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 4: closer to where I thought the Cardinals defense would play

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00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 4: in the first three weeks of the season, and then the

1200
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 4: Cardinals offense was disappointing. You watched it closer than me, Patrick,

1201
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 4: but Kyler took four sacks. He looked a little frazzled

1202
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 4: at times. I thought like his eyes were down where

1203
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 4: he he looked a little confused. So I don't know

1204
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 4: if that was something did dan Quinn with Senny m

1205
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 4: DR's Armstrong had a good game, But for the Commander's

1206
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 4: team that was thirty second out of thirty two in

1207
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 4: a lot of categories.

1208
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Speaker 5: This was, you know, obviously a great performance by them.

1209
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 4: After you know, a quick start by the Cardinals offense,

1210
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 4: they get the first drive touchdown, not much the rest

1211
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Speaker 4: of the day.

1212
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Speaker 6: Well, well, the one thing that has been consistent with

1213
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 6: the commander's secondary is when the quarterbacks, the opposing quarterbacks

1214
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 6: have taken the shots, they haven't always been able to

1215
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 6: make plays on the ball. And Kyler just I'm not

1216
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 6: sure how things were he was seeing them, but he

1217
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:35,839
Speaker 6: just wasn't taking those one on one opportunity when they

1218
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 6: were available early. But Emmanuel Forbes, who's gotten a lot

1219
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 6: of negativity from the way that his career started, made

1220
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 6: several plays in this game. Saint just as well. Who's

1221
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 6: they've these guys the commanders at corner have really really struggled.

1222
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 6: And we'll see the next time that, you know, they

1223
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 6: get a chance to make plays on these fifty to

1224
00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:00,839
Speaker 6: fifty balls. But today Kyler just didn't didn't really want

1225
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 6: to pull the trigger.

1226
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 4: On They're in the mix, Washington. I mean, they are

1227
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 4: leading the NFC East, and at this point you have

1228
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 4: an offense that good, you have to think they got

1229
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 4: a real chance. Our friend Nate Tice, who's helping us

1230
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 4: out at the NFL network here, so I'm on Good

1231
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 4: Morning Football, tweeted out something that the Washington Commanders through

1232
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 4: four weeks of the season, I believe are in the

1233
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 4: top ten all time in success rate. So that in

1234
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:30,959
Speaker 4: terms of just like do you have a good play

1235
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:34,280
Speaker 4: on a play down and down basis, they are ranking

1236
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 4: through four weeks with the best four week starts of

1237
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 4: any offense in history.

1238
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:40,839
Speaker 5: They are getting it done.

1239
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 4: Let's move on to Tampa, where another offense got it done.

1240
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:51,240
Speaker 16: Lead a yard and a half Mayfield shotgun look, Hans.

1241
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:54,800
Speaker 2: Keeps the ball himself times. He's got a Tampa by touchdown.

1242
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 2: Mayfield with a designed quarterback.

1243
00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 4: Keeper Geene Deckerhoff from w A fu s. Yeah, that

1244
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:08,399
Speaker 4: was Baker Mayfield's rushing touchdown to give them a big

1245
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 4: lead in this game. They held on for a thirty

1246
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 4: three to sixteen win. And this was way easier than

1247
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 4: anyone would have thought. I mean, just even them winning

1248
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 4: was a surprise to me. I picked the Eagles. I

1249
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 4: feel like an idiot. You picked the Eagles, I'm sure did.

1250
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 4: Then again, we didn't totally know the injury report at

1251
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 4: that time.

1252
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 5: Lane Johnson did not play.

1253
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 4: Devonte Smith and AJ Brown did not play, despite AJ

1254
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 4: Brown returning to practice on Friday. So that was unfortunate,

1255
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 4: and yet you can maybe put it more on the

1256
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 4: Eagles defense, which is healthy. The first quarter twenty one

1257
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 4: to nothing, lead one hundred and eighty nine yards to

1258
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 4: zero yards. That's a tough way to start a game.

1259
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was a honestly, because to see the struggles

1260
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 6: that Jalen Hurst was having again no DeVante Smith, no

1261
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 6: AJ Brown. He was holding onto the ball very long time.

1262
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 6: Got a sack from Vitevea holding onto the ball as well,

1263
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 6: two strip sacks in those situations. But over on the

1264
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 6: other side, because we saw Vic Fangio's defense absolutely shut

1265
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:13,439
Speaker 6: the Saints down in the Superdome less than a week ago.

1266
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 6: And then to come out and see Baker Mayfield, which

1267
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 6: Tom Brady on the call, he was freed from his

1268
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 6: curse of the Cowboys scourge early on in the season.

1269
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 6: He's watching his former teammates go up and down the field.

1270
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 6: Just heaping praise on Chris Godwin. But you could see

1271
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 6: what a healthy Chris Godwin does to this offense. He

1272
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 6: got non targets, caught six of them for sixty nine

1273
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 6: yards our crucial third down conversions as well. It was

1274
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 6: just Baker operating at a level against this Eagles defense

1275
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 6: where they didn't necessarily know what was going on. QUINNYA.

1276
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,439
Speaker 6: Mitchell made one play on Mike Evans to knock away

1277
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 6: a touchdown. I can't really think of another play that

1278
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 6: Eagles defender made in the first few drives of this game.

1279
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:58,919
Speaker 6: Baker three forty seven and two touchdowns, and I don't

1280
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 6: even know what to say about the Eagle at this point. Nick.

1281
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 6: It's it's a rough situation.

1282
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 8: It's not pretty. I mean, you go back to some

1283
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 8: of the markers in the next gen categories for Jalen

1284
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 8: Hurts and it's kind of telling. Again, sixteen attempts over

1285
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 8: two and a half seconds, doesn't have his top two

1286
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 8: receivers out there, nobody's getting open. He's holding onto the football.

1287
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 8: They've looked like this for most of the season. He

1288
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 8: did have fourteen under two and a half seconds, but

1289
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 8: still half of it being longer. That worries me, and

1290
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:24,919
Speaker 8: they didn't protect him well. He was sacked six times.

1291
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 8: That speaks to the fact that he's holding onto the

1292
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 8: ball too long. You go in there shorthanded against a

1293
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 8: team that is aggressive. Todd Bowles defense is aggressive and

1294
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 8: it's going to get after you. And you find yourself

1295
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 8: in a twenty one and nothing hole after going three

1296
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 8: and out on each of your first three possessions. You're

1297
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 8: fighting an uphill battle that you're probably not gonna win,

1298
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 8: especially when a guy like Baker Mayfield is balling, which

1299
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 8: he did to start the season and now he's right

1300
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 8: back on track after a rough week last week.

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00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 5: He's all or nothing.

1302
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 4: This guy's crazy because he had one of the worst

1303
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:52,919
Speaker 4: games of his career. When I rewatched that, when last

1304
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 4: week I thought it was it was kind of on him.

1305
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 5: Last week he was the problem.

1306
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 4: And then he comes out today and that touched un

1307
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 4: and he had to Trey Palmers like that was perfect coverage.

1308
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 4: I can't remember who was in coverage.

1309
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 6: Was it Sligh, Yeah, it was nothing. It was Darius Slay.

1310
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 4: And the safety was coming over the top. There was

1311
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 4: no window there and he just fires it in there

1312
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 4: and that's just like, well, that's that's too good. There's

1313
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 4: nothing that you can even do with that. Mike Evans

1314
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 4: becomes the all time leading Bucks scorer with a touchdown

1315
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 4: earlier than that and the Bucks get the ball going

1316
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 4: on the ground for the first time all years. Both

1317
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 4: the White and Irving go ten for forty nine. That's

1318
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 4: like the nicest running back split I've ever seen.

1319
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 8: Let's unpack that real quick, because that's all the talk

1320
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 8: in Tampa right now is give Bucky Irving more carries

1321
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 8: than than Rashad White. He's playing better, his success rates higher,

1322
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 8: everything else. They like mirrored each other the difference. He

1323
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:46,479
Speaker 8: got the touchdown. So what do you do now?

1324
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 5: It's fine, you need you need him both.

1325
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's the way Bucky is gonna pop on some

1326
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 6: plays and you can see the explosiveness. He's a different

1327
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 6: style runner. And when it works and the faster guy

1328
01:00:56,960 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 6: gets more yards. In the fan, Bryan Rain, it's like, okay, yeah,

1329
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 6: this is the guy because we feel like we have

1330
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 6: we have a chance where they haven't really been running

1331
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:08,439
Speaker 6: the ball very well. They didn't really run the ball

1332
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 6: a lot today, even in a game where they led

1333
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 6: wire to wire. But it's it's just one of those

1334
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 6: it's one of those things where they're both gonna be

1335
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 6: a part of this offense. But I do think we

1336
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 6: will see more and more Bucky Irvring as the season

1337
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 6: goes on.

1338
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 4: Let's listen to Dallas Goddter talking about Nick Sirianni's message

1339
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 4: after the game.

1340
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Speaker 17: You know, he said it's early. You know, we're two

1341
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 17: and two. He talked about that. You know, it's not

1342
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 17: college football. You know, our season's on over. We got

1343
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 17: a lot of football ahead of us, and uh, you know,

1344
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 17: we just gotta find ways to uh stay ahead of

1345
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 17: the sticks, move the ball and uh, you know, come back.

1346
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 17: We've got a lot of football left.

1347
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 4: Something about that bothers me that, like, why is Nick

1348
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 4: Sirianni telling the coaches this is not college football?

1349
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 5: The seasons is not over.

1350
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:53,240
Speaker 4: It's like if the pros in that locker room are

1351
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 4: not thinking the season's over, yeah, Like it just gives

1352
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 4: a U a window. It's like, hey, guys, don't think

1353
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 4: the season's over. The season is not over, guys, no

1354
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 4: matter what they're saying.

1355
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 6: And I just maybe it's maybe it's a little personal

1356
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 6: projection regarding who finishes the season.

1357
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 4: I do worry about that because last week they just

1358
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 4: won the game, and every press conference was included some

1359
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 4: version of the question from reporters like and what is

1360
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 4: it you do here?

1361
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 5: Actually? Nick?

1362
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:22,440
Speaker 4: Because like it was talking about how he jumped in

1363
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 4: and messed things up with the fourth down call last week.

1364
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 4: And then they asked Jalen Hurts a question and asked, like,

1365
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 4: how if they're gonna get together and they're going into

1366
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 4: their bye week, get two and two, if they would

1367
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 4: get together and maybe decide how you want the message

1368
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 4: to be the team or how you want to handle

1369
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 4: things between him and Nick as you go into the

1370
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 4: second part of the year. And Jalen Hurts his answer was,

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01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 4: we have our moments.

1372
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Speaker 6: Let's just it.

1373
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Speaker 8: This is this is carryover from last year. That's what

1374
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 8: this is. This is the pressure of last year already

1375
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 8: weighing them down one month into the season.

1376
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Speaker 5: I think that.

1377
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just he's always they always give them

1378
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 4: and they know what they're doing. They always give them

1379
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 4: a chance to say something nice about Nick Sirianni and

1380
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 4: then he never says it. Hurts had to have been frustrated.

1381
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 4: He was pressured on forty eight percent of his dropbacks,

1382
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 4: four of eleven under pressure.

1383
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 5: Great job by the Bucks.

1384
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 4: Look, the Bucks have had two games where they looked

1385
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 4: out standing this year, Week one against the Commanders and

1386
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 4: this week they stole one in Detroit in a game

1387
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 4: they probably should want. And that's why those steals are

1388
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 4: so big, because now they're sitting there at three and one,

1389
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 4: Eagles are two and two. But it's gonna feel worse

1390
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 4: than that during their bye week. All right, before we

1391
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 4: head to break, want to let you know and just

1392
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 4: send all of our thoughts to everyone that is in

1393
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 4: Tampa or anywhere in the Gulf Coast region and struggling

1394
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 4: with the after effects of Hurricane Helene. As we hear

1395
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 4: more about it, it's really devastating and families affected by

1396
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 4: the Hurricane Helen urgently need support. You can help the

1397
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 4: American Red Cross provide meals and shelter to these families.

1398
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 4: Donate today to her Urricane Helen relief efforts by going

1399
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:03,439
Speaker 4: to Redcross dot org.

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Speaker 5: Flash NFL.

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01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 16: Third down and three, the Bengals hit their own thirty eight.

1402
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:11,040
Speaker 6: Joe Looking has lots of time.

1403
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 16: His pass caught it to fifty by Jamar Chase breaks

1404
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:17,440
Speaker 16: a tangle streaking down the far sideline. She got too

1405
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 16: many teammates to walk and he will take it to

1406
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 16: the house night for a sixty three yard Bengals touchdown.

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01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 4: Nice Belie, great job there by Dan Hord and Dave Lappin.

1408
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 4: I believe what Dave Lapham said during that highlight.

1409
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 5: Was nice, nice sea Cea nice.

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01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 4: This is fantastic. Damar Chase takes a house call on

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01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 4: a play that probably should have been about a six

1412
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 4: yard game helps his buddy Joe Burrow out on a

1413
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 4: day where yeah, they got it going on offense thirty

1414
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 4: four to twenty four. The Bengals get the win in

1415
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 4: a any Dalton revenge game that was not although I

1416
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 4: don't think he was the problem. The Bengals defense took

1417
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 4: made just enough plays. They got a goal line stand

1418
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 4: early and they got a pick and that was about it.

1419
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 5: What the offense is doing well the rest of the day.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's the story of the Bengals so far.

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Speaker 6: Good.

1422
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 8: You can finally get off to Shanine get a win.

1423
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 8: First off, congratulations of the Bengals. I thought they set

1424
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 8: the tone with that goal line stand early in this game.

1425
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 8: They arrived in Charlotte on a mission and that was

1426
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 8: don't go zero four and don't lose Dandy Dalton, and

1427
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 8: they did that, so good for them. This is a

1428
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 8: team that's going to be carried by its offense. It's

1429
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 8: going to be carried by Joe Burrow, who made one

1430
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:36,520
Speaker 8: mistake all day, which was the interception. Otherwise he was

1431
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 8: excellent again and luckily they got enough out of their

1432
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 8: ground game. That was probably their best game on the

1433
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:44,360
Speaker 8: ground this season, just visually speaking, you know, thirty attempts

1434
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 8: between Chase Brown Zach Moss for one hundred and thirty

1435
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 8: one yards and two touchdowns. That kind of set the

1436
01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 8: tone for their offense and Joe was allowed to build

1437
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 8: out of that. Of course, he has the hookup with

1438
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 8: Jamar Chase the human pinball on that sixty three yard

1439
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:58,440
Speaker 8: touchdown reception, which moved him into a tie with Odell

1440
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 8: Beckham Junior for the most sixty plus yard receiving touchdowns

1441
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 8: in the Super Bowl era with nine. Can you believe that? Nine?

1442
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 8: So they're hum and offensively. Defensively leaves a lot to

1443
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 8: be desired. Trey Hendrickson left this game with an injury

1444
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:14,040
Speaker 8: in the fourth quarter that we need to keep track

1445
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:16,600
Speaker 8: of because that's their only source of pass rush. That's

1446
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 8: where I'm concerned. But again, good for them to get

1447
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 8: that win on the road.

1448
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, in the concerning area as well, because Trey Hendrickson

1449
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 6: dips down his helmet runs into another player. It leaves

1450
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:29,120
Speaker 6: the game there. But the positive side on the Bengals offense,

1451
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 6: which were a whole bunch of positives, just five pressures

1452
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 6: on thirty two dropbacks against the Panthers. Albeit it's against

1453
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:37,960
Speaker 6: the Carolina Panthers, but this is the new look Carolina

1454
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 6: Panthers Andy Dalton's starting now defense. For some reason, for

1455
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 6: some reason, the defense got better. Yeah, but ultimately Chase

1456
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 6: Brown gets leads the team in rushing, didn't play most

1457
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:51,160
Speaker 6: of the game. I think he only played. He played

1458
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 6: less than forty two percent of the snaps. Also got

1459
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:55,840
Speaker 6: a goal line carry as well, which was a little

1460
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 6: bit of an upset.

1461
01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:58,400
Speaker 5: Because fifteen for eighty with two touchdowns.

1462
01:06:58,440 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was.

1463
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 4: And he was sitting down there in my kids fantasy

1464
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 4: like I'm trying not to tell them what to do

1465
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 4: too much.

1466
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 5: I'm like, how's Chase Brown on your waive rider at

1467
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 5: that point?

1468
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 6: You gotta you gotta pull rank go ahead and go ahead.

1469
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 4: And see I give suggestions. Yeah, sorry, Greg leads. They

1470
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 4: both teams really didn't have any pressure, so that's it's

1471
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:21,840
Speaker 4: a little concerning. I think for both of these teams.

1472
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 4: Two quarterback hits zero sacks. Now both quarterbacks are getting

1473
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 4: the ball out. I always check after these games, like,

1474
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 4: are the Bengals ever gonna like run more of a

1475
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 4: offense that Zach Taylor, you know, was used to running,

1476
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 4: like the one that he ran when Joe Burrow was

1477
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 4: hurt last year, And like try a you know, try

1478
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 4: to get Joe Burrow to do a little more play action,

1479
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:43,920
Speaker 4: a little more underset or stuff. And the answer is

1480
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 4: usually like, yeah, we tried a little, and it never works.

1481
01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:49,400
Speaker 4: He was four for six for eighteen yards with play action.

1482
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 4: Like they're trying to push Joe Burrow to not just

1483
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 4: be that, but that's just not what he's good at.

1484
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 4: He's good at sitting in shotgun and just kind of

1485
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 4: playing distributor and get the ball out quick.

1486
01:07:58,280 --> 01:07:58,480
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1487
01:07:58,480 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 8: I mean it worked out for him like that that.

1488
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 8: My concerns are not with their offense. My concerns are

1489
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 8: entirely with their defense. On the flip side, the Panthers,

1490
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 8: let's talk about Andy Dalton, who looked good again. That

1491
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 8: interception that he threw was not his fault. It was

1492
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 8: a deflected it. His arm was hit when he threw it.

1493
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:14,160
Speaker 8: Otherwise he looked pretty good again. They had a shot

1494
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 8: to win this game. They were down a touchdown late,

1495
01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 8: they had the ball and they came up short. They

1496
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 8: didn't really mount much of a comeback effort on that drive,

1497
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 8: but the fact that they were in the game alone

1498
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 8: just shows how far they've come in two weeks from

1499
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 8: Bryce Young and this is the least talented team in football.

1500
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 8: And Bryce Young limits this offense to Andy Dalton can

1501
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 8: go out there and throw for two twenty and keep

1502
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 8: this offense going. And Chuba Hubbard went for over one

1503
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:37,479
Speaker 8: hundred yards today, which was great to see. Like they

1504
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 8: have life offensively, It's just that in this game, much

1505
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 8: like the Bengals loss to the Commanders last week, they

1506
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:44,920
Speaker 8: didn't have quite enough offense to keep up. What really

1507
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:47,160
Speaker 8: happened is they went down twenty one to fourteen with

1508
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:49,760
Speaker 8: a well timed little dump off to Brown along the

1509
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:52,680
Speaker 8: sideline for a touchdown. It was twenty one fourteen and a half.

1510
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:54,599
Speaker 8: Bengals come out, go right down the field and score,

1511
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 8: and they're up two touchdowns and the Panthers are trying

1512
01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 8: to play catch up. If they weren't in that situation,

1513
01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:00,160
Speaker 8: probably would have been tight all the way to the

1514
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 8: final snap of the game.

1515
01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Bengals get a little more production out of

1516
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:07,760
Speaker 4: t Higgins with six catches. Things are moving in the

1517
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 4: right direction. We'll see when the defense plays.

1518
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 5: Uh.

1519
01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 4: Better offenses coming up. But look, they caught up a

1520
01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 4: game in the AFC North. They this was a must

1521
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 4: win game. They said afterwards, you just can't go to

1522
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 4: zero to four. They're gonna try to be crawling out

1523
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:24,880
Speaker 4: of this hole, probably for the whole season, maybe for

1524
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:26,800
Speaker 4: the just the first half of the season. But they

1525
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 4: caught up a game in the AFC North. The Panthers

1526
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:32,320
Speaker 4: fall to one in three. They are already a couple

1527
01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:37,120
Speaker 4: of games back. So dreams of suddenly being relevant maybe

1528
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 4: taking a little break here. Let's go to two teams

1529
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 4: who are definitely entering Sunday in Vegas, worried about falling

1530
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 4: into irrelevance.

1531
01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 6: They gotta get right. They're not right, They're not right.

1532
01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:49,839
Speaker 6: They're covers.

1533
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 2: Just from.

1534
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 5: There's the snap, Watson Puss, he's under pressure, he's.

1535
01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:57,680
Speaker 2: Rolling out to the left. Blighters given Chase balls out.

1536
01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:04,720
Speaker 13: That's charge snod In with the sack, and the biggest player.

1537
01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 2: Of the day, Charles snowed it off the edge.

1538
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 13: Back to back plays and the Raiders defense with thirty

1539
01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:17,880
Speaker 13: four seconds left, might have just won this game against Cleveland.

1540
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 5: More, there's no might have.

1541
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:24,679
Speaker 4: After a couple nils, the Raiders get the win at

1542
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:27,600
Speaker 4: home twenty to seventeen. They are two and two, the

1543
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 4: Browns at one and three and not feeling good about life. Yes,

1544
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:38,520
Speaker 4: Deshaun Watson got them within striking.

1545
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:39,680
Speaker 5: Distance inside the ten.

1546
01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 4: There late holds onto the ball looks like a disguised

1547
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 4: coverage confused him. Nick his read that he expected to

1548
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:52,680
Speaker 4: be open. I think what was Cooper And I think

1549
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:55,760
Speaker 4: he thought it was man coverage and ends up he's

1550
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 4: double covered. He holds onto it too long, doesn't get

1551
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:01,559
Speaker 4: rid of the ball, and man, they lose.

1552
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 5: Sad times in Cleveland, Yeah, sad times.

1553
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 8: And the funny thing is is most of the season

1554
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 8: has been defined for the Browns not to focus on

1555
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 8: the losers first, but most of it has been focused

1556
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:13,400
Speaker 8: on the fact that DeShawn Watson has not played well.

1557
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 8: He actually played pretty well today. He put them in

1558
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:17,559
Speaker 8: multiple spots where they could score points or at least

1559
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:20,679
Speaker 8: get closer to scoring points. It was everybody around him failing.

1560
01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:23,040
Speaker 8: It was the penalties committed. He stepped up in the

1561
01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 8: pocket and found a Mary Cooper wide open for an

1562
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:26,840
Speaker 8: eighty two yard touchdown that would have flipped the game

1563
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 8: and gave them the lead. Gets called back by holding

1564
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:30,840
Speaker 8: on Nick Harris, who came in for the injured Ethan

1565
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 8: Posik at center. There's another play earlier in the game

1566
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:35,960
Speaker 8: where he throws a pass over the middle to a

1567
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:38,280
Speaker 8: Mark Cooper, perfect ball, hits him right in the chest,

1568
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:40,080
Speaker 8: pops right up in the air for an interception. It

1569
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 8: was that type of day for the Browns and a

1570
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 8: gritty win for the Raiders, playing without Max Crosby, playing

1571
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:48,599
Speaker 8: without DeVante Adams and getting as creative as you'll probably

1572
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:51,160
Speaker 8: see outside of Matt Leffluur's approach with Leak Willis a

1573
01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:53,519
Speaker 8: couple weeks ago. With the ground game, they had like

1574
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 8: seven different guys carried the ball. Two receivers scored rushing

1575
01:11:57,439 --> 01:12:00,120
Speaker 8: touchdowns in this game. Their lead running back was alexand

1576
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:02,599
Speaker 8: Madison with five for sixty. They rushed as a team

1577
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:05,479
Speaker 8: for one hundred and fifty two yards, the first time

1578
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:08,639
Speaker 8: the rushing game has shown any life this season. So

1579
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:11,040
Speaker 8: it was one of those team victories that didn't look pretty,

1580
01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 8: but they needed it and they needed to be gritty

1581
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 8: without Adams and Crosby, and they got the job done.

1582
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 8: But to circle back on that play one more time, Okay,

1583
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 8: Watson's he's got two guys opened. Yeah, he's got two

1584
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:23,200
Speaker 8: guys open, and he's about to fire, and I think

1585
01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 8: he sees somebody slide back in coverage and that's when

1586
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 8: he pulls it down and by then the pass rush

1587
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 8: was in his face. Good day for him. Otherwise, tough

1588
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:32,040
Speaker 8: ending for the Browns. The Browns are a bad team.

1589
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:34,080
Speaker 8: They are about bad football team of the quarterback who

1590
01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:35,360
Speaker 8: can't be trusted, as simple as that.

1591
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:38,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, on that play, you're right, guys were open, and

1592
01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 4: that's ultimately on the quarterback to figure out what the

1593
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:44,759
Speaker 4: defense is doing and stay calm under pressure.

1594
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:46,519
Speaker 5: Look they yeah, they had.

1595
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:50,880
Speaker 4: First and ten at the Vegas sixteen with two minutes

1596
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:52,840
Speaker 4: to go, so they had all sorts of time then

1597
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:56,479
Speaker 4: like a bungled snap and an incomplete just a lot

1598
01:12:56,479 --> 01:13:01,000
Speaker 4: of sloppiness. Watson had one interception in this game that

1599
01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:05,240
Speaker 4: was just a drop right by Amari Cooper and it

1600
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 4: could have been a big play and it turned into

1601
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:11,479
Speaker 4: an interception. And to your point on the Raiders running game,

1602
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:13,800
Speaker 4: I did have to google who is d Turner for

1603
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:19,400
Speaker 4: the Raiders. DJ Turner one carry, eighteen yards, touchdown.

1604
01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:21,559
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's one of those wide receiver carries. The other

1605
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:24,840
Speaker 6: one went to Trey Tucker, come all the way around

1606
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:26,720
Speaker 6: on the end zone of a play that started with

1607
01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:30,080
Speaker 6: a handoff to Zamir White, which seventeen plays ultimately handed

1608
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:33,080
Speaker 6: off to Zamir White. He got fifty yards. He was

1609
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 6: two point nine yards per carry. Alexander Madison is out

1610
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:39,679
Speaker 6: gained Zamir White in every game they've played this season.

1611
01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:43,840
Speaker 6: And at a certain point, I know AP wants to

1612
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:45,800
Speaker 6: get this ground game figured out. Was Zamir White, but

1613
01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:49,799
Speaker 6: this seems like Alexander Madison's backfield. He had five carries

1614
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:52,280
Speaker 6: for sixty yards today. Looked explosive.

1615
01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 4: Did he have the conversion on the third and nine?

1616
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:56,639
Speaker 4: That was where I was like, man, the Browns are

1617
01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 4: not the Browns because it was a third and nine run?

1618
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:00,599
Speaker 5: Picked it up?

1619
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:03,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, well they don't tackle well, they lead the league

1620
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 8: in the most mistackles, And yeah it was masking on

1621
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 8: that run. A hard fought run, but another poor display

1622
01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 8: of tackling.

1623
01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:10,680
Speaker 6: And again this is this was a game that we

1624
01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:12,599
Speaker 6: weren't necessarily thinking this was going to be a score

1625
01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:16,360
Speaker 6: fest coming in two very very hurt teams, two offenses

1626
01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:19,559
Speaker 6: that are playing poorly. But there were so many chances.

1627
01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 6: There are so many chances for Cleveland, and they didn't

1628
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:25,920
Speaker 6: take advantage of almost any of them in the plays

1629
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:28,519
Speaker 6: that they did make, that the holding call being the

1630
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:33,519
Speaker 6: key one. And I understand the fourth down play pressure

1631
01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:36,240
Speaker 6: comes to shut you have to throw the ball somewhere

1632
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:41,760
Speaker 6: on that, but again it should have been to that point, right,

1633
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:46,840
Speaker 6: It should have even come into that circumstance because in

1634
01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:50,000
Speaker 6: the second half, the Browns defense eventually did get things

1635
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:50,479
Speaker 6: figured out.

1636
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:51,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, they got to pick.

1637
01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:55,360
Speaker 4: I mean, they got that Joka forces a fumble that

1638
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:58,120
Speaker 4: they return for a touchdown. And I was just about

1639
01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:01,360
Speaker 4: to say, look, the Brown's defense, it's still a good defense.

1640
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:03,280
Speaker 4: But you just couldn't expect them to be as dominant

1641
01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:04,679
Speaker 4: as they were a year ago.

1642
01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 5: Consistently. It's just not gonna happen.

1643
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:07,719
Speaker 4: And then again, you know, in this game, they did

1644
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:12,400
Speaker 4: score seven points to to mitigate whatever, you know, mistakes

1645
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:15,599
Speaker 4: they made against a team without DeVante Adams. They're missing

1646
01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:18,000
Speaker 4: both their tackles. You mentioned the center got hurt.

1647
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:18,360
Speaker 5: There.

1648
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:24,000
Speaker 4: There are extenuating circumstances Nick for sure, but they're they're

1649
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:26,560
Speaker 4: not overcoming them. And in this one, give credit to

1650
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:31,720
Speaker 4: the Raiders who are I mean, Isaiah pola Mayo is

1651
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:36,439
Speaker 4: out there at Mayo, not Paula Malo. Pola Mayo is

1652
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 4: out there and making pass breakups at safety and getting

1653
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 4: a sack on a blitz and they're having guys step

1654
01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:47,240
Speaker 4: up and get enough like calebon chas On showed up

1655
01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 4: and had three pressures in this game. I'm like, oh wow,

1656
01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:53,519
Speaker 4: Caleb On, Jason's It's happening finally after after five years.

1657
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:56,679
Speaker 4: So it's probably not really it's against some backup tackles,

1658
01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:58,720
Speaker 4: but it was a big It was a big day

1659
01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 4: for Antonio Pierce who had a tough week, and for

1660
01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:02,840
Speaker 4: the Raiders to get this win, to get the two

1661
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:03,200
Speaker 4: and two.

1662
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:06,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, that safety pull the maul that you talked about.

1663
01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:09,599
Speaker 8: He made a fantastic breakup on a pass, a perfect

1664
01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 8: pass from Deshaun Watson to Jerry Judy that would have

1665
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:14,120
Speaker 8: been a huge gain and he arrives at the perfect

1666
01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:15,720
Speaker 8: time they're playing. I mean, that defense has been good

1667
01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 8: all year and even without Crosby, they still play good football.

1668
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:22,080
Speaker 8: The Browns bad vibes like the bad vibes group in

1669
01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:23,800
Speaker 8: the NFL right now, there are two teams in there,

1670
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:27,640
Speaker 8: the Jacksonville Jaguars in the Cleveland brownsm Okay.

1671
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:30,479
Speaker 18: I think some Eagles fans will probably yeah yet almost

1672
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:30,880
Speaker 18: but not yet.

1673
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:33,080
Speaker 5: They're pretty bad, Yeah, pretty bad vibes.

1674
01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:35,200
Speaker 6: But yeah, the play that Nick was talking about with

1675
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:39,679
Speaker 6: Poula Mayu, his helmet or shoulder pads are inches different,

1676
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:42,240
Speaker 6: and that's a flag and a fine. Like he really

1677
01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:44,320
Speaker 6: got his helmet and shoulder pads in the perfect place.

1678
01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:46,760
Speaker 6: It's a break. Judy was asking for a flag, but

1679
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:48,519
Speaker 6: he couldn't, you know, he has the benefit doesn't have

1680
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:50,920
Speaker 6: the benefit of seeing the play from the outside where

1681
01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 6: it was perfect timing and perfect placement.

1682
01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:54,800
Speaker 5: And it was a great throw.

1683
01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:58,320
Speaker 4: It was also third and three in the fourth quarter

1684
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:02,720
Speaker 4: and Watson was for a shot and it was like

1685
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:04,880
Speaker 4: it was like wide open. It was like there was

1686
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:07,040
Speaker 4: a safety. You know, obviously there was a safety back

1687
01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:09,400
Speaker 4: there and he didn't beat covered that much. So it's

1688
01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:13,599
Speaker 4: like the decision, the decisions with Watson not the best.

1689
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:16,760
Speaker 4: You say the vibes are aren't good in Cleveland. I mean,

1690
01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:19,840
Speaker 4: if you listen to Boston Talk radio on Monday, I

1691
01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:21,880
Speaker 4: doubt the vibes are gonna be great there either.

1692
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:23,080
Speaker 5: Let's go to Santa Clara.

1693
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:26,559
Speaker 19: They have three left and Hunter Henry, the former Charger

1694
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:30,280
Speaker 19: tight end right. Forsett back steps up. Here comes Floyd

1695
01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:34,360
Speaker 19: throw over the middle and accepted by Fred Warner. Fred

1696
01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:37,400
Speaker 19: gets up and runs back the other way thirty twenty

1697
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 19: one block and he's in ten five pushed out.

1698
01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:51,520
Speaker 2: Dives for the end zone touchdown. San fred Sisco picked City.

1699
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:54,759
Speaker 4: Baby one of my favorite plays of the year. Fred

1700
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:58,759
Speaker 4: Warner picks six. This guy is your best defensive player

1701
01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:03,320
Speaker 4: in the league through four weeks, Greg Papa Tim Ryan

1702
01:18:03,439 --> 01:18:07,040
Speaker 4: on k N the R. You just love it when

1703
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:11,400
Speaker 4: potential Hall of Fame type players are at their very

1704
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:13,920
Speaker 4: peak and you can just count on tuning in every

1705
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:16,559
Speaker 4: week they're gonna do something special that looked like a

1706
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:19,280
Speaker 4: glitch in a like a video game in tech Mo

1707
01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:21,160
Speaker 4: Bole where the guy would just fly right off the

1708
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:23,519
Speaker 4: top of the screen and Fred Warner just I didn't

1709
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:25,800
Speaker 4: even see him. Jacoby Brissett definitely didn't see if he

1710
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 4: flies to the top, gets up off the ground and

1711
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:32,559
Speaker 4: gets a touchdown. Unfortunately, Warner left the game later with

1712
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:35,559
Speaker 4: an ankle injury was not able to return was standing

1713
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:40,000
Speaker 4: on the sideline, hopefully not too serious. And I just

1714
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:43,320
Speaker 4: thought watching this game and seeing the individual plays by

1715
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 4: the forty nine ers and enjoying hearing Greg Papa's voice

1716
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 4: so much like. This game had two highlights, two touchdowns

1717
01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:53,320
Speaker 4: that were maybe better than any two touchdowns I sawidate

1718
01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:54,439
Speaker 4: So let's hear another one.

1719
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:56,800
Speaker 19: Bard and Chen on the twelve yard line. Chance play

1720
01:18:56,920 --> 01:19:00,000
Speaker 19: the drive. They've had two touchdowns called back by penalty.

1721
01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:03,120
Speaker 19: Brock shotgun, hues check, Jewish right along back. Now you

1722
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:07,240
Speaker 19: chike right and they go Kittle Jennings Devo from inside,

1723
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:09,560
Speaker 19: you out left, rock back and to throw for the

1724
01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:11,559
Speaker 19: end zone for Kittle lock Bell.

1725
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:13,280
Speaker 2: George went up and caught the ball.

1726
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:23,560
Speaker 3: Touchdown, say Fred Cisco Kittle in the corner, baby.

1727
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:25,080
Speaker 2: Superman in the phone move.

1728
01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 9: He went up and there are players raped all over him.

1729
01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:33,799
Speaker 4: Three Patriots defenders there to try to stop George Kittle.

1730
01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:36,120
Speaker 5: You can't stop him. What a play.

1731
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:39,400
Speaker 4: It turns out that you're better when you have Deebo

1732
01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:43,040
Speaker 4: Samuel on the field and George Kittle on the field.

1733
01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:45,680
Speaker 4: And yeah, they were back to being the forty nine ers.

1734
01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:48,679
Speaker 4: They ran away and hid very early in this game.

1735
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:51,679
Speaker 6: Yeah, Deebo Samuel had a fifty three order from Brock Party.

1736
01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:55,600
Speaker 6: Just those because you wonder, like what happens when you

1737
01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:59,280
Speaker 6: don't have those guys. It's not necessarily always the continued

1738
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:02,280
Speaker 6: offensive end, So sometimes it really is just four or

1739
01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:04,800
Speaker 6: five plays, and those four or five plays when they're

1740
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:07,479
Speaker 6: big plays like that, gettle over three guys d Bow

1741
01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:12,479
Speaker 6: for fifty three. It just it pops over the course

1742
01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 6: of the game. And Yeah, the scary thing for San

1743
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 6: Francisco as they get all those guys back is Fred's

1744
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:21,760
Speaker 6: gonna get MRI tomorrow and you don't really get in

1745
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:27,280
Speaker 6: that machine for fun. So that's concerning. But it's I mean,

1746
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:29,200
Speaker 6: when they're healthy, I mean, they're the forty nine ers.

1747
01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:30,760
Speaker 6: It's glad to see them back to being the forty

1748
01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:35,920
Speaker 6: nine ers again, albeit against this Patriots team. Right, made

1749
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:39,080
Speaker 6: plays in spots, made plays in spots, and they actually

1750
01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:41,519
Speaker 6: made it a game towards the middle of the fourth quarter,

1751
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 6: but just not enough at the end.

1752
01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:46,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was twenty to ten at one point in

1753
01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:51,160
Speaker 4: the third quarter. Joey Sly hits a sixty two yard

1754
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:53,880
Speaker 4: bomb at the end of the first half. I mean,

1755
01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:55,559
Speaker 4: that was their highlight. But at that point it was,

1756
01:20:55,800 --> 01:21:00,160
Speaker 4: it was twenty to nothing and they were As an

1757
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:02,760
Speaker 4: announcer there mentioned it's like there were like touchdowns called

1758
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:05,160
Speaker 4: back by penalties multiple times for the forty nine ers,

1759
01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:07,320
Speaker 4: and then they would they just like score anyways, a

1760
01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:11,400
Speaker 4: couple fumble situations which you know worked out in San

1761
01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:15,120
Speaker 4: Francisco's favor. The Patriots offensive line is just so bad,

1762
01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:17,519
Speaker 4: and then they lose David Andrews, who's their best player,

1763
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:20,400
Speaker 4: their center early in this game. Kayden Wallace, who's their

1764
01:21:20,439 --> 01:21:23,719
Speaker 4: third string left tackle, got hurt and left the game,

1765
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:27,200
Speaker 4: and it's just insane. Brissette play had a face to

1766
01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:32,840
Speaker 4: fifty four percent pressure rate, ten QB hits, six sacks.

1767
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:35,519
Speaker 4: I'm amazed that he's been able to keep getting up

1768
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:36,840
Speaker 4: because he's taking hard hits.

1769
01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:38,559
Speaker 5: The difference in this.

1770
01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:41,360
Speaker 4: Game shook on one level is actually Perty was under

1771
01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:43,320
Speaker 4: a lot of pressure in this game. Kean White had

1772
01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:46,599
Speaker 4: a good game in Their offensive line wasn't amazing, and

1773
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:50,400
Speaker 4: Purdy is outstanding at escaping pressure in a way that

1774
01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:52,680
Speaker 4: you know Jacoby is not going to be.

1775
01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:54,000
Speaker 5: Never was.

1776
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:55,840
Speaker 4: I was, but definitely not at this stage of his career.

1777
01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:56,360
Speaker 15: No.

1778
01:21:56,520 --> 01:21:59,679
Speaker 8: Yeah, And I feel like this game essentially like delivered

1779
01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:02,320
Speaker 8: what we expected from both teams speaking of strengths and weaknesses,

1780
01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:04,920
Speaker 8: because like Jacoby's been under attack like this every week,

1781
01:22:05,320 --> 01:22:06,719
Speaker 8: and he's taken a ton of hits, like you said,

1782
01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:08,240
Speaker 8: to the point where there's been many times where everything

1783
01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:09,519
Speaker 8: like oh, is that the one that knocks him out?

1784
01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:11,360
Speaker 8: And he just keeps getting back up and getting back

1785
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:13,720
Speaker 8: out there and continues playing. I mean, it answers every

1786
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 8: question as to why people are like, why aren't they

1787
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:16,920
Speaker 8: playing Drake May because they can't protect well enough and

1788
01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:18,840
Speaker 8: there's no reason to put him back there. But on

1789
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:20,680
Speaker 8: the flip side, you know, you also get, you know,

1790
01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:23,120
Speaker 8: the one hundred and twenty three yard rushing day from

1791
01:22:23,240 --> 01:22:25,639
Speaker 8: Jordan Mason, and you know, everything that you see from

1792
01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:28,639
Speaker 8: the fort Niners, you know, highlights wise and George Kittle

1793
01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:31,080
Speaker 8: being the most joyful guy other than Bob Papa in

1794
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:33,720
Speaker 8: the entire league stadium. As soon as he makes that

1795
01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:36,639
Speaker 8: catch like this very much fracks with what we expected.

1796
01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:39,720
Speaker 8: And unfortunately, because of who the Patriots are, and it

1797
01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:42,280
Speaker 8: starts again in the trenches. As I'll always say, this

1798
01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:44,120
Speaker 8: is going to be how a lot of their season goes,

1799
01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:46,200
Speaker 8: and you're just gonna have to you know, accept it

1800
01:22:46,240 --> 01:22:47,120
Speaker 8: and hope for the best.

1801
01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:50,639
Speaker 4: It's tough. They're probably the worst team in the NFL.

1802
01:22:50,920 --> 01:22:53,759
Speaker 4: The forty nine Ers had six plays over twenty yards.

1803
01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:56,200
Speaker 4: I you had a big chunk early, but then again

1804
01:22:56,360 --> 01:22:58,759
Speaker 4: seemed a little off on a couple of plays. Almost

1805
01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:04,960
Speaker 4: caused an interception with Purdy. Juwan Jennings made a ridiculous

1806
01:23:05,240 --> 01:23:08,760
Speaker 4: catch in for forty five yards and tight coverage over

1807
01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:11,439
Speaker 4: Jonathan Jones so that it was like a beautiful ball

1808
01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:14,120
Speaker 4: by Purty. So is the ball to Samuel. I've really

1809
01:23:14,120 --> 01:23:16,599
Speaker 4: been impressed with how Perty's playing this year in out

1810
01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:19,720
Speaker 4: standing throw early in this game, across his body on

1811
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:22,320
Speaker 4: the third and nine to keep a drive going that

1812
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:24,439
Speaker 4: was just not an ordinary play.

1813
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:26,080
Speaker 5: And then those nice deep balls.

1814
01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 4: He missed a couple deep, but he kept trying for

1815
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:31,280
Speaker 4: him and they're hitting these post shots, which is you know,

1816
01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:33,720
Speaker 4: you don't see him hitting going for those bombs all

1817
01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:36,160
Speaker 4: the time, and he's a good deep ball thrower. They

1818
01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:39,160
Speaker 4: do not miss Christian McCaffrey that much because their running

1819
01:23:39,160 --> 01:23:41,320
Speaker 4: game is so effective. I know they miss him Patrick,

1820
01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:44,640
Speaker 4: but Jordan Mason had one hundred and sixty yards in

1821
01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:47,320
Speaker 4: this game. They are statistically one of the most effective

1822
01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:48,040
Speaker 4: running games.

1823
01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:49,599
Speaker 5: I just mean, like the.

1824
01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:52,320
Speaker 4: Running game is is pretty low on their list of concerns.

1825
01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:55,200
Speaker 4: Anything offensively is pretty low on their list of concerns. Yeah,

1826
01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:58,439
Speaker 4: that particular aspect of when he's a really good player too.

1827
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:00,760
Speaker 6: Jordan Mason is a solid run. It's not to take

1828
01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:03,840
Speaker 6: away from Christian McCaffrey. Jordan Mason can contribute on a

1829
01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:06,719
Speaker 6: lot of teams. I do think in the passing game

1830
01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:11,000
Speaker 6: not having Christian Christian mccafrey is a significant loss because

1831
01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:13,360
Speaker 6: it just forces you to have to defend so many

1832
01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:16,759
Speaker 6: aspects of the field and contend with Debo and Brandon

1833
01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:19,519
Speaker 6: Ayuk and George Kittle. It allows everybody to kind of

1834
01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:20,880
Speaker 6: be at their best, which is why they traded for

1835
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:24,639
Speaker 6: him in the first place. But regardless, New England didn't

1836
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:27,479
Speaker 6: have the horses on either side to really be in

1837
01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:30,519
Speaker 6: this game, and San Francisco kind of able to zombie.

1838
01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:33,320
Speaker 4: Don't get too confident in San Francisco. The Jets also

1839
01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:35,559
Speaker 4: had a game like this and you know, came back

1840
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:37,640
Speaker 4: to Earth quickly because they might think like, oh, we

1841
01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:40,280
Speaker 4: got our defensive line problems solved, Like Kevin Gibbons had

1842
01:24:40,280 --> 01:24:42,040
Speaker 4: two and a half sacks, in this game, actually played

1843
01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:45,000
Speaker 4: all well all year. MALIEK Collins had five pressures, a

1844
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:47,800
Speaker 4: lot of them quick. Nick Bosa was involved in back

1845
01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:51,080
Speaker 4: to back sack plays in the third when when when

1846
01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:54,040
Speaker 4: it looked close for a brief second. But yeah, this

1847
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:58,679
Speaker 4: this Patriots line and everything about their offense just under manned.

1848
01:24:58,920 --> 01:24:59,280
Speaker 5: Right now.

1849
01:24:59,280 --> 01:25:00,880
Speaker 4: They go to one and three and the forty nine

1850
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:03,000
Speaker 4: is gonna much win, much needed win to get to

1851
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:03,360
Speaker 4: two and two.

1852
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:05,320
Speaker 5: We're gonna take a quick break here.

1853
01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:09,920
Speaker 4: We're actually gonna say goodbye to Patrick Claybonn and thank

1854
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:13,599
Speaker 4: him for his service on this program. We're gonna say

1855
01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:16,080
Speaker 4: so long to Nick Schook for just a little bit.

1856
01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:19,000
Speaker 4: He'll be back with me on Sunday Night Football. And

1857
01:25:19,040 --> 01:25:21,439
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna chop it up with one of my

1858
01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:28,879
Speaker 4: favorite dudes, Kevin Patrick. Just a couple of games Bears, Rams, Jags, Texans,

1859
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:29,559
Speaker 4: both good games.

1860
01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:49,200
Speaker 18: The Patrick games this week see a Patrick LEAs see Gus.

1861
01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:48,200
Speaker 20: Most of the tight end Parkinson, snap stut up front,

1862
01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:52,479
Speaker 20: pressure coming stay up, putting by intercept Prisker, the grab

1863
01:25:52,520 --> 01:25:57,080
Speaker 20: of the eighteen yard line, the pressure fighting Stafford and Prisker.

1864
01:25:57,400 --> 01:26:00,880
Speaker 2: Well there's second, well almost second. It tip with the day.

1865
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:03,559
Speaker 20: The first one in the end zone did not count

1866
01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:06,400
Speaker 20: for this one catch very much and we got to

1867
01:26:06,479 --> 01:26:08,920
Speaker 20: fade the bluff moment that soldier field.

1868
01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:17,000
Speaker 4: That's right, Jeff Doniac there on w MVP Matthew Stafford. Look,

1869
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:20,200
Speaker 4: he battled, That's what Matthew Stafford does. But throws a

1870
01:26:20,280 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 4: late interception under pressure while getting smacked.

1871
01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:26,080
Speaker 5: If that for a second, maybe did they get him

1872
01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:26,639
Speaker 5: around the head?

1873
01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:26,880
Speaker 6: No?

1874
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:28,000
Speaker 21: Oh, they definitely did.

1875
01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:31,160
Speaker 4: Okay, they definitely did, but the call did not happen.

1876
01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:34,759
Speaker 4: And yes, that is Kevin Patra. The Bears win twenty

1877
01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:40,120
Speaker 4: four to eighteen, Rams fall to one in three and

1878
01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:43,360
Speaker 4: the Bears get a big win to even their record

1879
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:44,720
Speaker 4: at two and two.

1880
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:47,519
Speaker 5: So you think they missed that call? Patrick, I do.

1881
01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:49,000
Speaker 21: I do think you got hitting the chops.

1882
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:52,519
Speaker 22: But you know, to me, this game was all about

1883
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:56,120
Speaker 22: the what the Rams didn't do and how the Rams

1884
01:26:56,280 --> 01:27:00,000
Speaker 22: like that was the interception to seal it. But Stafford's

1885
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:03,479
Speaker 22: fumble in deep in his own end early in the

1886
01:27:03,520 --> 01:27:06,680
Speaker 22: game was what really kind of pullted the Bears like

1887
01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:09,040
Speaker 22: they Then there was a penalty on the Rams that

1888
01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:10,880
Speaker 22: gave him a first down in first and goal at

1889
01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:13,920
Speaker 22: the one, and they plunged it in. But before that

1890
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:16,240
Speaker 22: it was like the Rams were marching up and down

1891
01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:18,400
Speaker 22: the field, installing as they are wont to do without

1892
01:27:18,439 --> 01:27:21,519
Speaker 22: their top guns. And then the Bears couldn't do anything

1893
01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:25,599
Speaker 22: on an offense at all. It was one first down

1894
01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:27,400
Speaker 22: and then a three and out and then a couple

1895
01:27:27,479 --> 01:27:30,439
Speaker 22: first downs, and Caleb Williams did not play well in

1896
01:27:30,439 --> 01:27:34,040
Speaker 22: the first half, and the ground game in Chicago again

1897
01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:36,360
Speaker 22: as we'd seen all year. I mean, they have ninety

1898
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 22: seven yards in the first half and I think like

1899
01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:41,800
Speaker 22: six first downs, so it wasn't pretty early. But that

1900
01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:45,080
Speaker 22: turnover deep in end zone gave the Bears life.

1901
01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:50,040
Speaker 4: So yeah, you're talking about the turnover that sets up

1902
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:55,439
Speaker 4: a very brief drive by the Bears for the Rosawan

1903
01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:59,880
Speaker 4: Johnson touchdown run gives them a seven to six lead

1904
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:02,400
Speaker 4: up with a ten to six halftime lead in a

1905
01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:05,760
Speaker 4: half that it felt like the Rams were kind of controlling.

1906
01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:08,200
Speaker 4: But you got to give the Bears defense credit here. Like,

1907
01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:12,760
Speaker 4: just coming into the game, I thought, Okay, the stafford

1908
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:16,000
Speaker 4: and this story that they had a week ago, which

1909
01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:19,920
Speaker 4: was great, is going to be challenged more today by

1910
01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:22,040
Speaker 4: the Bear So it didn't surprise me that they finished

1911
01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:24,680
Speaker 4: with like eighteen points in this game, or that they

1912
01:28:25,040 --> 01:28:28,280
Speaker 4: struggled in the red zone, Like what did the Bears

1913
01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:28,880
Speaker 4: defense do?

1914
01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:32,400
Speaker 22: Well, Well, they got pressure, I mean and as they.

1915
01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:33,000
Speaker 21: As they usually do.

1916
01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:35,559
Speaker 22: And Brisker was all over the field as in that call.

1917
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:38,639
Speaker 22: He should have had another interception earlier in the game

1918
01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:41,280
Speaker 22: in the red zone, actually in the end zone, but

1919
01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:43,840
Speaker 22: he just stepped out by a toe. It was a

1920
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:47,160
Speaker 22: very laxadaisical pass by Stafford. I couldn't believe he unleashed it.

1921
01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:50,479
Speaker 22: But Brisker was all over the field, twelve tackles, a

1922
01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:54,280
Speaker 22: couple tackles for loss, the game closing interception. He was everywhere,

1923
01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:57,559
Speaker 22: and Sweat had the game changing fumble in my opinion,

1924
01:28:57,600 --> 01:29:00,000
Speaker 22: earlier he's the one who caused that that Stafford fund

1925
01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:05,200
Speaker 22: so he had that and the Rams, we know they're shorthanded.

1926
01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:08,559
Speaker 22: Karen Williams did his thing. But when you don't have

1927
01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:12,080
Speaker 22: Cup and you don't have Puka Nakua to take away

1928
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:14,240
Speaker 22: some of the coverages, the Bears could just sit on

1929
01:29:14,240 --> 01:29:16,479
Speaker 22: the run run game and they just kind of stuffed

1930
01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:20,200
Speaker 22: them and there was just no like the Rams offense

1931
01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:23,720
Speaker 22: was just waves up and down all game, all game.

1932
01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:25,439
Speaker 22: You didn't know what you were going to get one

1933
01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:26,240
Speaker 22: drive to the next.

1934
01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:30,280
Speaker 4: Well, they they changed up their wide receiver rotation Jordan

1935
01:29:30,280 --> 01:29:33,639
Speaker 4: and Winnington takes over as like the guy who's running

1936
01:29:33,680 --> 01:29:35,720
Speaker 4: the most routes gets eight for six or six for

1937
01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:38,320
Speaker 4: sixty two. Finally makes me feel like it was worth

1938
01:29:38,360 --> 01:29:40,360
Speaker 4: going to a Rams preseason game for the first time.

1939
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:42,599
Speaker 21: I thought of you home almost every time.

1940
01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:44,880
Speaker 4: Right because he was awesome in the preseason. I actually

1941
01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:49,360
Speaker 4: do think he can replicate what Puka and Cooper Cup

1942
01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:51,200
Speaker 4: does more than any Wells just because of his style

1943
01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:51,880
Speaker 4: of plays physical.

1944
01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:54,000
Speaker 5: He's obviously not going to be as good as them.

1945
01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:56,080
Speaker 22: He played well today and he was their leading receiver

1946
01:29:56,360 --> 01:29:57,920
Speaker 22: for most of the game until two two had a

1947
01:29:57,960 --> 01:30:02,320
Speaker 22: couple big catches later, but he was clearly the guy

1948
01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:04,960
Speaker 22: that staffer was comfortable with throwing the ball to over

1949
01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:05,320
Speaker 22: the middle.

1950
01:30:05,400 --> 01:30:07,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, and too two has been great for them. Too

1951
01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:09,559
Speaker 4: gets four catches for eighty two yards.

1952
01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:09,840
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1953
01:30:09,840 --> 01:30:12,880
Speaker 4: That the Caleb side of things and the Bears offense, Look,

1954
01:30:12,920 --> 01:30:16,920
Speaker 4: they get the job done. DeAndre Swift busts open a

1955
01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:19,680
Speaker 4: big run late in this game. Hell, let's listen to

1956
01:30:19,840 --> 01:30:21,719
Speaker 4: this touchdown run by Jeff Joniyak.

1957
01:30:21,800 --> 01:30:28,200
Speaker 5: Here with the call one back set snap, dance against side.

1958
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:29,599
Speaker 2: Over a man Swift, but the burst.

1959
01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:32,360
Speaker 20: Of the twenty five twenty, he's going benny ten five

1960
01:30:32,600 --> 01:30:37,600
Speaker 20: hens out touchdown Bears thirty six yards chuck.

1961
01:30:37,479 --> 01:30:38,879
Speaker 2: By DeAndre Swift.

1962
01:30:40,160 --> 01:30:42,920
Speaker 4: Needed that this team is not going to get anywhere

1963
01:30:42,920 --> 01:30:45,720
Speaker 4: without a running game. Swift goes sixteen for ninety three.

1964
01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:47,600
Speaker 4: Helped out by that. But they were better in the

1965
01:30:47,640 --> 01:30:49,800
Speaker 4: second half. They kind of took Khalil Herbert out of

1966
01:30:49,840 --> 01:30:53,360
Speaker 4: the rotation. They'll need that because Caleb Williams is certainly

1967
01:30:54,160 --> 01:30:57,320
Speaker 4: still struggling to throw deeper throws. He was fifteen for

1968
01:30:57,439 --> 01:31:02,439
Speaker 4: fifteen on throws under ten yards Kevin Patrick, so that's good, yeah,

1969
01:31:02,439 --> 01:31:06,559
Speaker 4: but two for seven over ten yards over four over twenty.

1970
01:31:06,640 --> 01:31:11,720
Speaker 4: His three wide receivers combine the three big ones, DJ More,

1971
01:31:11,840 --> 01:31:15,559
Speaker 4: Keenan Allen, and rome A Dunze combined for fifty one

1972
01:31:15,880 --> 01:31:17,679
Speaker 4: yards on seven catches.

1973
01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:19,719
Speaker 5: So not a lot on the outside here.

1974
01:31:20,160 --> 01:31:21,880
Speaker 22: No, And you can tell he kind of still doesn't

1975
01:31:21,880 --> 01:31:24,280
Speaker 22: trust his offensive line, I think because it's either he

1976
01:31:24,360 --> 01:31:26,360
Speaker 22: gets it out quick or he just seems that the

1977
01:31:26,400 --> 01:31:28,120
Speaker 22: gears start to turn and he just like kind of

1978
01:31:28,160 --> 01:31:31,439
Speaker 22: is overthinking it where you know, you'd like to see

1979
01:31:31,479 --> 01:31:33,519
Speaker 22: a little bit more progression from him, and he flashes

1980
01:31:33,560 --> 01:31:35,479
Speaker 22: it every once in a while, but it really is

1981
01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:37,760
Speaker 22: if his first read isn't there, he's overthinking it and

1982
01:31:37,800 --> 01:31:39,240
Speaker 22: I think he's just waiting on pressure.

1983
01:31:39,280 --> 01:31:40,800
Speaker 21: He did that a lot in the first.

1984
01:31:40,520 --> 01:31:42,840
Speaker 22: Half, like he was just like, Okay, pressure should be

1985
01:31:42,880 --> 01:31:44,880
Speaker 22: here by now, because this is what the offensive line

1986
01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:46,280
Speaker 22: that I have in front of me go bing back

1987
01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:49,400
Speaker 22: to Swift, I think from what we saw last year

1988
01:31:49,400 --> 01:31:51,160
Speaker 22: and that he was a bunch of memes about him

1989
01:31:51,720 --> 01:31:54,800
Speaker 22: on the on Twitter last year last week after the

1990
01:31:54,840 --> 01:31:57,679
Speaker 22: Colts game, but he was much more decisive this week,

1991
01:31:57,760 --> 01:31:59,360
Speaker 22: and I think that's what he needs to be. He's

1992
01:31:59,400 --> 01:32:01,320
Speaker 22: one of those guys who kind of gets in his

1993
01:32:01,320 --> 01:32:03,040
Speaker 22: own head when he's got two lanes to pick and

1994
01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:05,240
Speaker 22: he just needs to hit the hole and go. And

1995
01:32:05,280 --> 01:32:08,000
Speaker 22: he was much better with that today and I think

1996
01:32:08,040 --> 01:32:10,599
Speaker 22: that's why you saw an improved run game.

1997
01:32:11,120 --> 01:32:14,639
Speaker 4: Love it, love uh love Kevin Patrick with the coaching

1998
01:32:14,640 --> 01:32:18,439
Speaker 4: tips for DeAndre Swift and yeah this this this Rams defense,

1999
01:32:18,520 --> 01:32:20,320
Speaker 4: you know that you get it a sacked by Braden

2000
01:32:20,320 --> 01:32:23,479
Speaker 4: Fisk and uh, they're just not special enough. They ran

2001
01:32:23,520 --> 01:32:26,360
Speaker 4: the ball fairly well, but This is gonna be a

2002
01:32:26,479 --> 01:32:29,400
Speaker 4: very challenging season. Pukka is reportedly going to be out

2003
01:32:29,479 --> 01:32:33,280
Speaker 4: till about week nine, according to Fox's Jay Glazer. So

2004
01:32:33,360 --> 01:32:35,920
Speaker 4: we'll see when Cooper Cupper turns he is not on

2005
01:32:36,160 --> 01:32:40,160
Speaker 4: injured reserve. All right, let's go to Houston, where we

2006
01:32:40,240 --> 01:32:43,439
Speaker 4: thought it'd be a one sided game. Instead, Patrick got

2007
01:32:43,479 --> 01:32:44,400
Speaker 4: another good one.

2008
01:32:44,600 --> 01:32:56,120
Speaker 6: Second and goal digs to the right side.

2009
01:32:52,600 --> 01:32:55,120
Speaker 2: Offset I C J. Rowls after the right close to.

2010
01:32:55,080 --> 01:32:59,519
Speaker 13: The X one hit story the texait score they lead.

2011
01:33:01,880 --> 01:33:02,280
Speaker 12: C J.

2012
01:33:02,520 --> 01:33:02,960
Speaker 2: Stroud.

2013
01:33:03,000 --> 01:33:07,759
Speaker 13: Tataria, who's had a huge game, puts the Texans off top.

2014
01:33:08,840 --> 01:33:10,600
Speaker 4: Oh, they didn't tell you that it was gonna be

2015
01:33:10,640 --> 01:33:12,719
Speaker 4: the dari A Goombawale.

2016
01:33:12,360 --> 01:33:13,400
Speaker 5: Revenge game, did they?

2017
01:33:14,439 --> 01:33:18,760
Speaker 4: Big game winning touchdown four catches for a Gumbawala for

2018
01:33:18,760 --> 01:33:23,080
Speaker 4: forty seven yards and for the second time this season,

2019
01:33:24,240 --> 01:33:28,839
Speaker 4: the Texans needed a touchdown late. Happened against the Colts,

2020
01:33:29,080 --> 01:33:32,800
Speaker 4: got it, happened against the Jaguars. Got it or else.

2021
01:33:32,840 --> 01:33:35,200
Speaker 4: This team could be looking at a totally different season.

2022
01:33:35,240 --> 01:33:38,240
Speaker 4: But they get to win three and one on the year.

2023
01:33:38,360 --> 01:33:42,680
Speaker 4: The Jaguars fall to oh And for Kevin and it

2024
01:33:42,760 --> 01:33:45,479
Speaker 4: was on a day where seemed like they they gave

2025
01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:48,960
Speaker 4: the Texans everything they could have wanted. They had a

2026
01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:51,560
Speaker 4: second half lead but couldn't.

2027
01:33:51,320 --> 01:33:52,040
Speaker 5: Close the deal.

2028
01:33:53,160 --> 01:33:55,920
Speaker 22: Yeah, the Jags played better than they have but they

2029
01:33:56,000 --> 01:33:58,040
Speaker 22: still left the door open. And this was a Nico

2030
01:33:58,120 --> 01:34:02,000
Speaker 22: Collins game all day. Every time a big third down happened,

2031
01:34:02,200 --> 01:34:06,519
Speaker 22: Nico Collins big, big second and long. Because the Texans

2032
01:34:06,520 --> 01:34:10,000
Speaker 22: couldn't stop committing penalties on especially the offensive line, like

2033
01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:12,679
Speaker 22: Laramie Tunzel is just a penalty machine right now.

2034
01:34:12,920 --> 01:34:14,840
Speaker 21: It's kind of ridiculous.

2035
01:34:15,840 --> 01:34:18,640
Speaker 22: They were in like second and fifteen all game and

2036
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:21,200
Speaker 22: it would just be Stroud drops back, hits a Nico

2037
01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:23,760
Speaker 22: over the middle, and then they moved the chains. But

2038
01:34:23,800 --> 01:34:26,600
Speaker 22: I mean, this game started pretty hot for Houston and

2039
01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:28,720
Speaker 22: then they scored three of their first four possessions and

2040
01:34:28,720 --> 01:34:30,800
Speaker 22: then it was just the second half just punt punt,

2041
01:34:30,800 --> 01:34:35,599
Speaker 22: punt punt. And I'm actually surprised that the Jags defense

2042
01:34:35,680 --> 01:34:38,600
Speaker 22: stood up without They didn't have Devin Lloyd Alukhan's on

2043
01:34:38,640 --> 01:34:42,280
Speaker 22: IR so their run defense was pretty impressive. I mean,

2044
01:34:42,280 --> 01:34:44,600
Speaker 22: Akers had a few decent ones, but I mean they

2045
01:34:44,600 --> 01:34:47,639
Speaker 22: couldn't run the ball very well consistently. I should say

2046
01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:50,880
Speaker 22: They're just a lot of third and long situations for CJ.

2047
01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:53,760
Speaker 22: Stroud to manage his way through, and they did it

2048
01:34:53,760 --> 01:34:55,800
Speaker 22: when it counted, And that's the kind of metal that

2049
01:34:55,880 --> 01:34:58,200
Speaker 22: you have when you have a Stroud type of player.

2050
01:34:59,000 --> 01:35:01,160
Speaker 22: It kind of felt to like that once they got

2051
01:35:01,160 --> 01:35:03,320
Speaker 22: the ball back with so much time, because we can

2052
01:35:03,320 --> 01:35:05,639
Speaker 22: get into the Jags on how they kind of imploded

2053
01:35:05,720 --> 01:35:07,559
Speaker 22: at the end, but they got the ball back with

2054
01:35:07,840 --> 01:35:10,080
Speaker 22: all day to just drive down and do whatever they

2055
01:35:10,120 --> 01:35:12,559
Speaker 22: wanted and milk the clock inside the five yard line

2056
01:35:12,600 --> 01:35:14,160
Speaker 22: before they scored, right.

2057
01:35:14,280 --> 01:35:16,880
Speaker 4: I mean, on one hand, I have a lot of

2058
01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:19,040
Speaker 4: faith in CJ. Strive to do it do that. On

2059
01:35:19,080 --> 01:35:21,200
Speaker 4: the other hand, they had just gotten five straight puns,

2060
01:35:21,680 --> 01:35:27,080
Speaker 4: So the Jaguars offense had every chance to put this

2061
01:35:27,160 --> 01:35:29,599
Speaker 4: game away earlier. And I know they were out gained

2062
01:35:29,960 --> 01:35:32,719
Speaker 4: in this game, but I couldn't help but see that. Look,

2063
01:35:32,760 --> 01:35:37,360
Speaker 4: they had the better rushing game today. Tank Big goes

2064
01:35:37,720 --> 01:35:40,680
Speaker 4: seven for ninety including a fifty eight yarder, Etn has

2065
01:35:40,680 --> 01:35:44,679
Speaker 4: a fifty yarder. Even Brian Thomas has a thirteen yard run,

2066
01:35:44,720 --> 01:35:47,080
Speaker 4: so he supported there. The defense is getting a lot

2067
01:35:47,080 --> 01:35:49,800
Speaker 4: of stops and you need Trevor Lawrence to kind of

2068
01:35:50,240 --> 01:35:51,840
Speaker 4: step up a little more.

2069
01:35:51,720 --> 01:35:52,080
Speaker 5: Than he did.

2070
01:35:52,160 --> 01:35:54,879
Speaker 4: He had a negative seven point five percent completion percentage

2071
01:35:54,920 --> 01:35:57,439
Speaker 4: over expected. Again, he's been at the very bottom of

2072
01:35:57,439 --> 01:36:00,920
Speaker 4: the league so far this season, and that matches the

2073
01:36:00,960 --> 01:36:01,360
Speaker 4: eye test.

2074
01:36:01,400 --> 01:36:03,480
Speaker 5: What did you see from Lawrence today?

2075
01:36:03,560 --> 01:36:06,840
Speaker 22: He just continues to be scattershot. Especially most concerning is

2076
01:36:06,880 --> 01:36:09,840
Speaker 22: the short throws and the over the middle throws that

2077
01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:13,000
Speaker 22: should be easy for him. He should be completing in

2078
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:15,280
Speaker 22: a Doug Peterson offense. Those are should be the easy

2079
01:36:15,320 --> 01:36:18,760
Speaker 22: throws that you can convert. And he They called two

2080
01:36:18,840 --> 01:36:22,519
Speaker 22: pass plays on their final drive when they should have.

2081
01:36:22,720 --> 01:36:25,000
Speaker 22: They could have just milked the clock because, like you mentioned,

2082
01:36:25,000 --> 01:36:27,000
Speaker 22: the run game was working in the second half. That's

2083
01:36:27,040 --> 01:36:30,160
Speaker 22: what got them into the lead. And so they instead

2084
01:36:30,200 --> 01:36:32,600
Speaker 22: of you know, just leaning on that at least on

2085
01:36:32,680 --> 01:36:34,799
Speaker 22: second down and getting you know, getting into a manageable

2086
01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:37,560
Speaker 22: third down, they threw it twice and then c J.

2087
01:36:37,640 --> 01:36:39,640
Speaker 22: Strout had three and a half minutes to work his

2088
01:36:39,680 --> 01:36:43,160
Speaker 22: way down the field. Where I mean, just given how

2089
01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:47,160
Speaker 22: Trevor Lawrence has played, I was kind of surprised they

2090
01:36:47,160 --> 01:36:49,320
Speaker 22: put the ball in his hands in those spots and

2091
01:36:49,360 --> 01:36:53,120
Speaker 22: he missed. He missed twice. Like it wasn't It wasn't

2092
01:36:53,120 --> 01:36:55,240
Speaker 22: like some great defensive play he put up the ball

2093
01:36:55,280 --> 01:36:59,439
Speaker 22: behind Kirk on one on the third down play he

2094
01:36:59,560 --> 01:37:00,160
Speaker 22: had him.

2095
01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:02,960
Speaker 21: He's just missed. Like I made a joke the other day.

2096
01:37:02,960 --> 01:37:05,320
Speaker 22: It's like he kind of reminds me of my toddler

2097
01:37:05,360 --> 01:37:08,720
Speaker 22: son when he first tried to started peeing, like standing up,

2098
01:37:08,800 --> 01:37:11,400
Speaker 22: like just the totally's right there, just hit it.

2099
01:37:11,479 --> 01:37:14,080
Speaker 4: Hit the I mean like it's like a lot. It's

2100
01:37:14,120 --> 01:37:15,840
Speaker 4: like a lot of the guys here at NFL Media.

2101
01:37:15,840 --> 01:37:17,320
Speaker 4: I don't know what's going on, but you go to

2102
01:37:17,360 --> 01:37:20,320
Speaker 4: the urino and there's just like there's there's always some

2103
01:37:20,360 --> 01:37:23,480
Speaker 4: liquid on the ground. I'm just like, is this that challenging?

2104
01:37:24,360 --> 01:37:26,040
Speaker 4: Someone had to put a sign up at one point

2105
01:37:26,120 --> 01:37:28,439
Speaker 4: last year. I don't know if anyone you remember that, Eric,

2106
01:37:28,479 --> 01:37:30,960
Speaker 4: Like someone put us a sign up being like whoever

2107
01:37:31,120 --> 01:37:33,640
Speaker 4: keeps missing, Like, let's get it under choice words on

2108
01:37:33,640 --> 01:37:36,600
Speaker 4: that sign too, Yeah, get it under control. Uh that

2109
01:37:36,760 --> 01:37:40,920
Speaker 4: is Trevor Lawrence right now. And uh it's interesting. Just

2110
01:37:41,200 --> 01:37:44,719
Speaker 4: keep that evaluation from patra in mind when you listen

2111
01:37:44,800 --> 01:37:49,599
Speaker 4: to Doug Peterson after the game being asked about possibly

2112
01:37:49,640 --> 01:37:51,760
Speaker 4: taking over play calling duties.

2113
01:37:51,760 --> 01:37:56,280
Speaker 23: For what I thought he called a great game. We

2114
01:37:56,439 --> 01:37:58,200
Speaker 23: as coaches, we can't make the We can't go out

2115
01:37:58,240 --> 01:37:59,880
Speaker 23: there and make the plays right. It's a two way street.

2116
01:38:00,160 --> 01:38:03,599
Speaker 23: So you know, you guys can sit here and point

2117
01:38:03,600 --> 01:38:04,760
Speaker 23: the finger all you want and that's fine.

2118
01:38:04,800 --> 01:38:07,280
Speaker 6: Point it right at me. I can take it. Okay,

2119
01:38:08,720 --> 01:38:09,599
Speaker 6: I can take it.

2120
01:38:09,680 --> 01:38:13,599
Speaker 23: So whatever you want to ask me, say whatever, right,

2121
01:38:13,840 --> 01:38:14,240
Speaker 23: go ahead.

2122
01:38:15,280 --> 01:38:15,559
Speaker 2: Mmm.

2123
01:38:15,680 --> 01:38:17,400
Speaker 4: This is really tough and they're going to be going

2124
01:38:17,439 --> 01:38:23,599
Speaker 4: to London soon. And when you hear that that, that's

2125
01:38:24,320 --> 01:38:27,800
Speaker 4: that's a tough one because that's gonna be shown in

2126
01:38:27,840 --> 01:38:30,600
Speaker 4: the headlines of like, yeah, hey, the players, you know,

2127
01:38:30,880 --> 01:38:34,080
Speaker 4: I mean, he's not wrong like that. It's probably not

2128
01:38:34,160 --> 01:38:37,160
Speaker 4: all about the play calling it, but it's hard not

2129
01:38:37,240 --> 01:38:39,840
Speaker 4: to connect the dots between what's going on with his

2130
01:38:39,960 --> 01:38:42,920
Speaker 4: quarterback and just what the team is and it's not

2131
01:38:43,040 --> 01:38:43,960
Speaker 4: about the play calling.

2132
01:38:44,520 --> 01:38:46,599
Speaker 22: It's been four weeks of this. It's been four weeks

2133
01:38:46,600 --> 01:38:49,000
Speaker 22: of Trevor missing in big spots over and over again.

2134
01:38:49,040 --> 01:38:52,600
Speaker 22: They've had chances to win games. And Brian Thomas was

2135
01:38:52,760 --> 01:38:53,600
Speaker 22: great again.

2136
01:38:53,360 --> 01:38:55,559
Speaker 5: Today sixth a touchdown.

2137
01:38:55,680 --> 01:38:57,519
Speaker 21: Yeah, he deserves more targets.

2138
01:38:57,520 --> 01:38:59,719
Speaker 22: Honestly, he should have had more targets on Christian Kirk

2139
01:39:00,080 --> 01:39:01,280
Speaker 22: to just to be honest about that.

2140
01:39:01,560 --> 01:39:03,080
Speaker 21: But he was great.

2141
01:39:03,120 --> 01:39:05,720
Speaker 22: But Trevor just misses the layups. He just has to

2142
01:39:05,760 --> 01:39:08,360
Speaker 22: make layups. They're not asking him to do a whole lot.

2143
01:39:08,960 --> 01:39:10,800
Speaker 22: They don't They don't push the ball down the field

2144
01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:13,559
Speaker 22: a ton, so he just has to hit the ones

2145
01:39:13,600 --> 01:39:16,840
Speaker 22: that are there. Fifty four percent completion rate for a

2146
01:39:16,880 --> 01:39:18,920
Speaker 22: guy with that came into the league as a number

2147
01:39:18,920 --> 01:39:21,200
Speaker 22: one overall pick is just highly disappointing.

2148
01:39:21,439 --> 01:39:25,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, the yards per attempt down too, And yeah, I

2149
01:39:25,400 --> 01:39:29,240
Speaker 4: just wanted to circle back quickly that Nego Collins' final

2150
01:39:29,280 --> 01:39:32,160
Speaker 4: stat line is twelve for one fifty one and a

2151
01:39:32,200 --> 01:39:33,920
Speaker 4: touchdown on fifteen targets.

2152
01:39:33,960 --> 01:39:35,559
Speaker 5: And I was having this conversation. I wish I had

2153
01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:36,080
Speaker 5: it on air.

2154
01:39:36,280 --> 01:39:38,519
Speaker 4: Off air, It's like, we don't have to wait to

2155
01:39:38,600 --> 01:39:40,920
Speaker 4: be like, hey, Nigo Collins is one of the five

2156
01:39:40,960 --> 01:39:43,639
Speaker 4: best receivers in the league. It's not it's obvious. He

2157
01:39:43,720 --> 01:39:48,040
Speaker 4: does literally everything. When you draw up what an X

2158
01:39:48,120 --> 01:39:52,240
Speaker 4: receiver is, like, you kind of think of, oh, Mike Evans,

2159
01:39:52,320 --> 01:39:54,360
Speaker 4: maybe even younger Mike. Get it, like that's what you

2160
01:39:54,360 --> 01:39:56,800
Speaker 4: would want. Who can literally do everything after the catch

2161
01:39:56,920 --> 01:39:59,919
Speaker 4: at the catch point right, can run routes as physical,

2162
01:40:00,320 --> 01:40:03,800
Speaker 4: red zone, short long, everything that is Nico Collins he

2163
01:40:03,880 --> 01:40:05,800
Speaker 4: is the guy by himself on one side, with the

2164
01:40:05,840 --> 01:40:09,400
Speaker 4: receivers on the other side. No Tink Dell, no problem.

2165
01:40:09,400 --> 01:40:12,040
Speaker 4: Stefan Diggs is a very nice second receiver. He goes

2166
01:40:12,080 --> 01:40:14,719
Speaker 4: five for sixty nine and it runs in for a touchdown.

2167
01:40:14,720 --> 01:40:18,639
Speaker 4: But this guy is freaking awesome. Kevin, you are awesome

2168
01:40:19,080 --> 01:40:19,519
Speaker 4: as well.

2169
01:40:20,120 --> 01:40:22,559
Speaker 22: Appreciate Can I just throw a stat on that that

2170
01:40:22,680 --> 01:40:24,760
Speaker 22: doubles down on what you were saying really before we go?

2171
01:40:25,439 --> 01:40:27,600
Speaker 22: So he totaled one hundred and fifteen of his one

2172
01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:30,040
Speaker 22: to fifty one from next gen stats. We're on targets

2173
01:40:30,080 --> 01:40:33,000
Speaker 22: of over ten yards. So he's just he's not doing

2174
01:40:33,000 --> 01:40:36,280
Speaker 22: these bubble screens, right, little dink duncan getting callow yards.

2175
01:40:36,720 --> 01:40:38,559
Speaker 21: He's doing work. He's doing work.

2176
01:40:38,720 --> 01:40:41,559
Speaker 4: He's great hands and you can connect those great hands

2177
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:44,519
Speaker 4: to at least two of their victories, if not all

2178
01:40:44,600 --> 01:40:46,880
Speaker 4: three where he was the difference in the game. Awesome

2179
01:40:46,880 --> 01:40:49,120
Speaker 4: stuff from him and Stroud ends up with three forty

2180
01:40:49,120 --> 01:40:52,120
Speaker 4: five in a touchdown, and yeah, they are leading the

2181
01:40:52,320 --> 01:40:56,559
Speaker 4: AFC South at three and one. Kevin Patrick always leads

2182
01:40:56,560 --> 01:40:58,439
Speaker 4: the way when he is on the show. Looking forward

2183
01:40:58,439 --> 01:41:01,400
Speaker 4: to having you on again. We will wrap up the

2184
01:41:01,400 --> 01:41:05,560
Speaker 4: show with the Little Sunday Night Football to Baltimore.

2185
01:41:06,160 --> 01:41:08,880
Speaker 15: Can Lamar starts to the pistol formation with Derrick Henry

2186
01:41:08,920 --> 01:41:10,280
Speaker 15: behind him.

2187
01:41:10,400 --> 01:41:13,160
Speaker 2: Jackson stands five yards deep. He'll give it to Henry

2188
01:41:13,200 --> 01:41:14,880
Speaker 2: right side, pig hole, Henry the fop the hole.

2189
01:41:14,960 --> 01:41:18,479
Speaker 15: He's going leg right, Tony, the kids in the pill bowling,

2190
01:41:18,560 --> 01:41:19,519
Speaker 15: Tony Coty.

2191
01:41:19,560 --> 01:41:24,559
Speaker 2: He go big cool Tony com part poo woo, go all.

2192
01:41:24,520 --> 01:41:29,280
Speaker 3: The way touchdown right him and this house is going

2193
01:41:29,600 --> 01:41:31,720
Speaker 3: wield right out of the gates.

2194
01:41:31,880 --> 01:41:33,920
Speaker 2: Eighty seven yard touchdown.

2195
01:41:34,160 --> 01:41:37,800
Speaker 5: Listen to this w B A L.

2196
01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:42,719
Speaker 4: Jerry Sandusky on the call, And that was Rod Woodson

2197
01:41:42,880 --> 01:41:43,880
Speaker 4: saying he gon.

2198
01:41:45,080 --> 01:41:47,440
Speaker 5: Derrick Henry twenty four carries one hundred.

2199
01:41:47,120 --> 01:41:51,400
Speaker 4: And ninety nine yards on the ground, two touchdowns on

2200
01:41:51,439 --> 01:41:55,400
Speaker 4: the day, including one receiving. They left them in the

2201
01:41:55,439 --> 01:41:57,479
Speaker 4: game at the end to try to get over two hundred.

2202
01:41:57,560 --> 01:42:00,280
Speaker 4: John Harbaugh loves stuff like that. He just couldn't get.

2203
01:42:00,520 --> 01:42:03,559
Speaker 4: Everything else went right for the Ravens on a night

2204
01:42:03,600 --> 01:42:09,000
Speaker 4: where they win thirty five to ten, humbling the Buffalo Bills,

2205
01:42:09,800 --> 01:42:13,640
Speaker 4: who are at three and one, Ravens dig out of

2206
01:42:13,680 --> 01:42:15,639
Speaker 4: their zero and two hole. They are two and two

2207
01:42:15,960 --> 01:42:19,000
Speaker 4: on the season. Lamar adds fifty four on the ground

2208
01:42:19,479 --> 01:42:23,639
Speaker 4: with a touchdown. Was very efficient passing the ball. Nick Shook,

2209
01:42:23,880 --> 01:42:29,200
Speaker 4: Justice Hill gets seventy eight yards receiving when they brought

2210
01:42:29,400 --> 01:42:34,120
Speaker 4: Nick Derrick Henry to Baltimore. The last two weeks are

2211
01:42:34,200 --> 01:42:39,760
Speaker 4: exactly what they imagine Nick Shook, This Baltimore Ravens offense

2212
01:42:39,880 --> 01:42:41,439
Speaker 4: and their ground game are are.

2213
01:42:41,520 --> 01:42:42,880
Speaker 5: They're just scary right now.

2214
01:42:43,520 --> 01:42:46,360
Speaker 8: Gee, you what a surprise the last two games they've won.

2215
01:42:47,560 --> 01:42:50,240
Speaker 8: It's exactly what we what we thought was gonna happen

2216
01:42:50,240 --> 01:42:52,080
Speaker 8: in the offseason, and it took a couple of weeks,

2217
01:42:52,080 --> 01:42:54,000
Speaker 8: but they finally figured it out and they looked like

2218
01:42:54,000 --> 01:42:56,000
Speaker 8: a machine. And I made the joke last week that

2219
01:42:56,040 --> 01:42:58,080
Speaker 8: I know Greg Roman was coaching for the Chargers because

2220
01:42:58,080 --> 01:42:59,559
Speaker 8: I saw him on TV, But I thought that he

2221
01:42:59,600 --> 01:43:02,160
Speaker 8: was coaching the Ravens again because they're just a dominant

2222
01:43:02,160 --> 01:43:04,760
Speaker 8: ground team again. They were good last year on the ground.

2223
01:43:04,960 --> 01:43:07,559
Speaker 8: They are way better on the ground this time around.

2224
01:43:07,720 --> 01:43:10,960
Speaker 8: When they get Derrick Henry out loose in the open field,

2225
01:43:11,120 --> 01:43:12,439
Speaker 8: he don't have to be the open field, can run

2226
01:43:12,479 --> 01:43:14,400
Speaker 8: guys over, it doesn't matter. But that mixed with Lamar

2227
01:43:14,880 --> 01:43:17,719
Speaker 8: Justice Hills a little scatback change of pays catch some passes.

2228
01:43:17,920 --> 01:43:19,920
Speaker 8: It's tough offense to stop. And I know it's only

2229
01:43:19,960 --> 01:43:22,120
Speaker 8: week four, but people are probably looking at the Ravens

2230
01:43:22,200 --> 01:43:24,160
Speaker 8: right now and thanking God, how are we gonna defend that?

2231
01:43:24,360 --> 01:43:25,360
Speaker 8: Especially late in the year.

2232
01:43:25,560 --> 01:43:25,840
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2233
01:43:26,120 --> 01:43:31,160
Speaker 4: The trademark of Ravens teams, which I really respect their

2234
01:43:31,280 --> 01:43:34,600
Speaker 4: organization more than any other, is throughout the course of

2235
01:43:34,640 --> 01:43:37,640
Speaker 4: the season, they continue to add elements.

2236
01:43:37,640 --> 01:43:39,360
Speaker 5: They figure out what they can do, what they can't do.

2237
01:43:39,439 --> 01:43:42,439
Speaker 4: Their offensive line has had some issues the last couple

2238
01:43:42,439 --> 01:43:44,519
Speaker 4: of weeks really to start the season that they're missing

2239
01:43:44,520 --> 01:43:46,320
Speaker 4: one of their starting guards. Tonight, they have Rose and

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Speaker 4: Garden out there at a right tackle. They moved the

2241
01:43:48,640 --> 01:43:52,080
Speaker 4: right tackle to guard. You have Patrick Ricard out there,

2242
01:43:52,400 --> 01:43:55,200
Speaker 4: and they figured out, okay, what works what doesn't. They've

2243
01:43:55,240 --> 01:43:59,320
Speaker 4: really almost created two different rushing attacks. You have the

2244
01:43:59,360 --> 01:44:03,840
Speaker 4: shotgun rushing attack, which has Justice Hill more than not,

2245
01:44:04,000 --> 01:44:06,040
Speaker 4: and he had a couple effective, you know, one effective

2246
01:44:06,120 --> 01:44:08,559
Speaker 4: run tonight, but ends up getting a lot of big

2247
01:44:09,240 --> 01:44:11,960
Speaker 4: gains as a receiver. They really had a touchdown drive,

2248
01:44:11,960 --> 01:44:15,400
Speaker 4: their third touchdown drive which was keyed by multiple Justice

2249
01:44:15,479 --> 01:44:18,320
Speaker 4: Hill catches a fifteen yarder on third and fourteen, a

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Speaker 4: nineteen yard touchdown catch. But otherwise you got Derek Henry

2251
01:44:22,400 --> 01:44:25,720
Speaker 4: back there, and it's mostly running out of the pistol

2252
01:44:25,960 --> 01:44:29,200
Speaker 4: and out of under center, and the pistol formation is

2253
01:44:29,240 --> 01:44:32,760
Speaker 4: where they got the touchdown out of. And Jordan rod Rigg,

2254
01:44:32,880 --> 01:44:35,160
Speaker 4: she talked about it on our podcast. A lot more

2255
01:44:35,200 --> 01:44:37,120
Speaker 4: offenses are going to be using the pistol because it's

2256
01:44:37,160 --> 01:44:38,240
Speaker 4: more flexible of how you.

2257
01:44:38,160 --> 01:44:39,760
Speaker 5: Want to run out of it.

2258
01:44:40,080 --> 01:44:42,799
Speaker 4: And Henry hit that big touchdown out of the pistol,

2259
01:44:42,920 --> 01:44:46,040
Speaker 4: but also had many more successful runs out of the

2260
01:44:46,040 --> 01:44:50,000
Speaker 4: pistol formation tonight. It was over fifty percent success, right,

2261
01:44:50,040 --> 01:44:51,880
Speaker 4: So it wasn't all just about Boom or bus with

2262
01:44:51,920 --> 01:44:52,519
Speaker 4: one big run.

2263
01:44:52,560 --> 01:44:54,000
Speaker 5: He had a lot of good chunk runs.

2264
01:44:54,520 --> 01:44:56,760
Speaker 4: They're figuring out the under center stuff like that's been

2265
01:44:56,800 --> 01:45:01,400
Speaker 4: okay sometimes it hasn't. Otherwise we know what Lamar Jackson

2266
01:45:01,439 --> 01:45:05,320
Speaker 4: can do, which is not even require his wide receivers

2267
01:45:05,640 --> 01:45:09,920
Speaker 4: in a game where they absolutely dominate offensively. They had

2268
01:45:09,920 --> 01:45:13,080
Speaker 4: that long throw to Likely and he's a tight end

2269
01:45:13,080 --> 01:45:16,599
Speaker 4: of course, and like Zay Flowers and Rashad Bateman almost

2270
01:45:16,640 --> 01:45:19,679
Speaker 4: got a touchdown like they're barely involved. Bateman has one catch,

2271
01:45:20,040 --> 01:45:23,400
Speaker 4: Aguilar two for ten Flowers one for ten, and yet

2272
01:45:23,439 --> 01:45:26,320
Speaker 4: it was one of the most efficient offensive games of

2273
01:45:26,360 --> 01:45:28,599
Speaker 4: the year. You really felt like the Bills defense, which

2274
01:45:28,640 --> 01:45:33,040
Speaker 4: had been playing well, missed Milano and Tron Johnson and

2275
01:45:33,120 --> 01:45:35,400
Speaker 4: Terrell Bernard. And that's three of their best players and

2276
01:45:35,400 --> 01:45:37,519
Speaker 4: they should have two of them back pretty soon. Milana

2277
01:45:37,560 --> 01:45:39,920
Speaker 4: won't be back anytime soon, so that's good news for them.

2278
01:45:39,920 --> 01:45:43,439
Speaker 4: But man, this Ravens offense. Okay, now they've added elements.

2279
01:45:43,439 --> 01:45:46,960
Speaker 4: They figured out how they're gonna marry the Derek Henry

2280
01:45:47,040 --> 01:45:50,639
Speaker 4: running game with the rest of their offense where Lamar

2281
01:45:50,800 --> 01:45:51,320
Speaker 4: likes to throw.

2282
01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:54,679
Speaker 8: Yeah, and the personnel losses that the Bills are dealing

2283
01:45:54,720 --> 01:45:56,920
Speaker 8: with are exactly why it was still hard to defend them,

2284
01:45:56,920 --> 01:45:59,519
Speaker 8: because you're gonna see other offenses run more of the pistol,

2285
01:45:59,520 --> 01:46:01,479
Speaker 8: which wore a hardest. Somebody who can think back to

2286
01:46:01,479 --> 01:46:05,000
Speaker 8: the days of the Nevada wolf Pack and Alan Kaepernick

2287
01:46:05,040 --> 01:46:07,760
Speaker 8: and the pistol offense and college football now that it's

2288
01:46:07,760 --> 01:46:09,400
Speaker 8: prevalent in the NFL, but this is going to be

2289
01:46:09,400 --> 01:46:11,240
Speaker 8: the team that does it the best because of who

2290
01:46:11,240 --> 01:46:13,040
Speaker 8: they have back there, because they have Henry as a

2291
01:46:13,040 --> 01:46:14,960
Speaker 8: hammer who's also liable to break off a big play

2292
01:46:14,960 --> 01:46:17,240
Speaker 8: at any moment because they have Lamar who's so hard

2293
01:46:17,280 --> 01:46:19,439
Speaker 8: to predict and defend and can also throw out of

2294
01:46:19,439 --> 01:46:22,080
Speaker 8: that formation and also beat you around the edge, and

2295
01:46:22,120 --> 01:46:24,559
Speaker 8: the way to counter that is to be stout up front.

2296
01:46:24,600 --> 01:46:26,920
Speaker 8: But really it's all about your linebackers, and missing those

2297
01:46:26,920 --> 01:46:28,960
Speaker 8: guys in that defense made a huge difference for them,

2298
01:46:28,960 --> 01:46:31,599
Speaker 8: which then in turn makes the Ravens offensive line look

2299
01:46:31,640 --> 01:46:33,400
Speaker 8: that much better when they get to second level and

2300
01:46:33,400 --> 01:46:35,679
Speaker 8: they're able to get to guys that are replacing those

2301
01:46:35,760 --> 01:46:38,360
Speaker 8: usual starters for the Bills. So not going to be

2302
01:46:38,439 --> 01:46:40,320
Speaker 8: as lopside I think on a week to week basis,

2303
01:46:40,360 --> 01:46:41,759
Speaker 8: but this is gonna be one of the hardest teams

2304
01:46:41,760 --> 01:46:44,080
Speaker 8: to defend out of that formation, specifically because they can

2305
01:46:44,120 --> 01:46:46,599
Speaker 8: go in so many different directions and it all starts

2306
01:46:46,600 --> 01:46:49,320
Speaker 8: with Lamar Jackson and right after him it's Derrick.

2307
01:46:49,200 --> 01:46:49,840
Speaker 5: Henry, right.

2308
01:46:49,960 --> 01:46:53,599
Speaker 4: So the Lamar's rushing touchdown was such a cool play

2309
01:46:53,640 --> 01:46:54,479
Speaker 4: where like the.

2310
01:46:54,680 --> 01:46:57,519
Speaker 5: Line's going one way and the guards are going the other.

2311
01:46:57,439 --> 01:46:59,880
Speaker 8: And two guys going out runs just like so.

2312
01:46:59,840 --> 01:47:04,280
Speaker 4: Much much for defenses to deal with. You want to

2313
01:47:04,320 --> 01:47:06,920
Speaker 4: settle down all these blitz packages people are sending your

2314
01:47:06,960 --> 01:47:09,320
Speaker 4: way and the Bills are not a heavy blitz team anyways,

2315
01:47:09,360 --> 01:47:11,080
Speaker 4: but this is what you do. And yeah, I mentioned

2316
01:47:11,960 --> 01:47:16,000
Speaker 4: they had twenty two plays under center nine out a pistol.

2317
01:47:16,040 --> 01:47:18,439
Speaker 4: That's out of fifty four place, so way over fifty

2318
01:47:18,439 --> 01:47:22,080
Speaker 4: percent the pistol plays seventy eight percent success rate, had

2319
01:47:22,120 --> 01:47:24,479
Speaker 4: two touchdowns out of it, not just the Henry play,

2320
01:47:24,600 --> 01:47:27,400
Speaker 4: just really cool stuff out of them, and they're using

2321
01:47:27,439 --> 01:47:30,679
Speaker 4: heavy formations. I look, they they barely ever had three

2322
01:47:30,720 --> 01:47:34,599
Speaker 4: receivers on the field tonight, so it's it's too full.

2323
01:47:34,640 --> 01:47:38,000
Speaker 4: But you know, it's Ricard and running back almost you know,

2324
01:47:38,160 --> 01:47:41,080
Speaker 4: two thirds of the play, and it's two tight ends

2325
01:47:41,280 --> 01:47:43,160
Speaker 4: on a lot of the plays. You know, some plays

2326
01:47:43,160 --> 01:47:45,040
Speaker 4: they don't have any receivers on the field, but like

2327
01:47:45,240 --> 01:47:48,080
Speaker 4: it's crazy that a lot of these plays.

2328
01:47:47,800 --> 01:47:49,880
Speaker 5: They have one receiver on the field.

2329
01:47:49,920 --> 01:47:52,360
Speaker 4: And yeah, they even went heavy, and I want to

2330
01:47:52,360 --> 01:47:54,840
Speaker 4: give their defense some love. Josh Allen was pressured on

2331
01:47:54,920 --> 01:47:57,000
Speaker 4: fifteen of his thirty four dropbacks. I don't think he

2332
01:47:57,080 --> 01:48:00,559
Speaker 4: was like terrible tonight. He ends up sixteen four twenty nine,

2333
01:48:00,439 --> 01:48:02,080
Speaker 4: one hundred and eighty yards. There was just like a

2334
01:48:02,120 --> 01:48:04,800
Speaker 4: couple nice plays by the Ravens that got them off

2335
01:48:04,800 --> 01:48:08,160
Speaker 4: the field one time. McDermott didn't decide to go for

2336
01:48:08,200 --> 01:48:09,880
Speaker 4: it on a fourth and one. It was at his

2337
01:48:09,960 --> 01:48:12,639
Speaker 4: own thirty nine, but they were already down fourteen three

2338
01:48:12,720 --> 01:48:13,320
Speaker 4: at the time.

2339
01:48:14,120 --> 01:48:16,599
Speaker 5: But it's because they were giving up some penetration.

2340
01:48:16,720 --> 01:48:19,719
Speaker 4: Travis Jones had some plays, David Ajabo had to play,

2341
01:48:19,800 --> 01:48:23,120
Speaker 4: and yeah, Josh Allen took some sacks. He's not used

2342
01:48:23,160 --> 01:48:25,880
Speaker 4: to taking a lot of sacks, got hit quite a bit,

2343
01:48:25,960 --> 01:48:28,720
Speaker 4: So a really encouraging game by the Ravens defense too.

2344
01:48:29,439 --> 01:48:32,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, the penetration was overwhelming the second half because what

2345
01:48:32,320 --> 01:48:34,200
Speaker 8: essentially happened for the Bills in the final two quarters

2346
01:48:34,240 --> 01:48:36,000
Speaker 8: was Josh Allen got away from the rush one time

2347
01:48:36,000 --> 01:48:37,920
Speaker 8: and made a heroic throw down the sideline for a

2348
01:48:37,960 --> 01:48:40,680
Speaker 8: long completion, and that was it. Every other time that

2349
01:48:40,720 --> 01:48:42,360
Speaker 8: they faced a third down where they knew he had

2350
01:48:42,360 --> 01:48:43,960
Speaker 8: to throw, they would just send the house and a

2351
01:48:44,040 --> 01:48:45,800
Speaker 8: number of different guys are getting pressure. At one point

2352
01:48:45,840 --> 01:48:47,960
Speaker 8: of offay Olway got there and forced him out to

2353
01:48:48,000 --> 01:48:50,600
Speaker 8: the right and you just see Josh surrounded by like

2354
01:48:50,720 --> 01:48:52,559
Speaker 8: three Ravens who are closing in on him and he's

2355
01:48:52,600 --> 01:48:54,680
Speaker 8: trying to stiff arm one away and two more come

2356
01:48:54,720 --> 01:48:56,280
Speaker 8: in to clean it up and he's just got nowhere

2357
01:48:56,280 --> 01:48:58,200
Speaker 8: to go and you could see the frustration on him

2358
01:48:58,200 --> 01:49:00,280
Speaker 8: on the sideline. They try to run a trick play

2359
01:49:00,360 --> 01:49:03,360
Speaker 8: to keep the Ravens off balance, didn't work out, turns

2360
01:49:03,360 --> 01:49:05,920
Speaker 8: out into a fumble. Josh gets blasted, like everything just

2361
01:49:05,920 --> 01:49:08,320
Speaker 8: snowballed into a nightmarage evening for them. And you know what,

2362
01:49:08,320 --> 01:49:10,960
Speaker 8: Greg gets crazy because you look at the Bills where

2363
01:49:10,960 --> 01:49:12,760
Speaker 8: they were a week ago. We did this on Monday night,

2364
01:49:12,880 --> 01:49:14,920
Speaker 8: they dominate the Jaguars to three and zero. We're talking

2365
01:49:14,920 --> 01:49:16,639
Speaker 8: about how Josh is the best player in the league,

2366
01:49:16,680 --> 01:49:19,040
Speaker 8: but you said something that totally came to fruition tonight.

2367
01:49:19,320 --> 01:49:22,000
Speaker 8: They're gonna get tested and they're probably gonna lose before long,

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01:49:22,040 --> 01:49:23,880
Speaker 8: and it's probably coming up this week, and we saw

2369
01:49:23,880 --> 01:49:25,559
Speaker 8: it play out exactly as you thought it would.

2370
01:49:25,720 --> 01:49:27,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I had had the Ravens winning this game. Never

2371
01:49:28,040 --> 01:49:29,760
Speaker 4: you know, it was a coin flip and never would

2372
01:49:29,760 --> 01:49:32,520
Speaker 4: have thought it would have been like this. But the

2373
01:49:32,560 --> 01:49:36,080
Speaker 4: Bills have won this year by protecting Alan well didn't

2374
01:49:36,120 --> 01:49:38,320
Speaker 4: play as well tonight and really being able to control

2375
01:49:38,360 --> 01:49:39,040
Speaker 4: the game on the ground.

2376
01:49:39,080 --> 01:49:41,200
Speaker 5: It's not like they ran the ball poorly.

2377
01:49:41,439 --> 01:49:44,200
Speaker 4: They just had a couple of short yardage ones early

2378
01:49:44,320 --> 01:49:47,879
Speaker 4: and their defense really lost them the game. The matchup

2379
01:49:47,920 --> 01:49:50,280
Speaker 4: that was really the key for me was the Ravens

2380
01:49:50,280 --> 01:49:53,160
Speaker 4: offense in this running game, which is one of the

2381
01:49:53,200 --> 01:49:56,000
Speaker 4: stories of this young NFL season. Took a game or

2382
01:49:56,040 --> 01:49:59,760
Speaker 4: two to really get going, but Derrick Henry very cool

2383
01:49:59,800 --> 01:50:04,280
Speaker 4: to see him just in the open field and busting tackles,

2384
01:50:04,320 --> 01:50:09,360
Speaker 4: making people miss, like swerving and really looking young. And

2385
01:50:09,600 --> 01:50:14,320
Speaker 4: it really reminds me of those players that get in

2386
01:50:14,320 --> 01:50:16,840
Speaker 4: the second spot, and that's kind of what puts their

2387
01:50:16,880 --> 01:50:19,040
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame candidacy over the top. I think of

2388
01:50:19,120 --> 01:50:22,080
Speaker 4: Kurt Warner in Arizona, and if Derrick Henry even has

2389
01:50:22,160 --> 01:50:25,000
Speaker 4: this like one magical year here in Baltimore, even if

2390
01:50:25,040 --> 01:50:27,559
Speaker 4: it was just that one and who knows like that,

2391
01:50:27,560 --> 01:50:30,679
Speaker 4: that could be enough that that puts him over the top.

2392
01:50:31,560 --> 01:50:33,639
Speaker 4: And it's just cool seeing a couple of the greatest

2393
01:50:33,640 --> 01:50:37,759
Speaker 4: players in our game, Lamar Jackson and Derrick Henry joining forces.

2394
01:50:37,800 --> 01:50:39,519
Speaker 4: The rest of the league is gonna have to deal

2395
01:50:39,520 --> 01:50:41,320
Speaker 4: with that and the Bills. They'll be back. They'll be fine.

2396
01:50:41,320 --> 01:50:43,680
Speaker 4: It's three and one. They were a little light and

2397
01:50:44,200 --> 01:50:46,439
Speaker 4: tough matchup for them. I heard John Harbass say after

2398
01:50:46,439 --> 01:50:48,519
Speaker 4: the game when he shook hands with mcdermy's like hope

2399
01:50:48,520 --> 01:50:50,760
Speaker 4: we see again, and I was thinking, like, yeah, I'll

2400
01:50:50,760 --> 01:50:52,599
Speaker 4: bet you hope you see him again, Like that would

2401
01:50:52,600 --> 01:50:55,280
Speaker 4: be better than seeing the Chiefs again, Like you feel

2402
01:50:55,280 --> 01:50:56,479
Speaker 4: like you can handle this team?

2403
01:50:57,439 --> 01:51:00,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I'd rather run into the team I

2404
01:51:00,439 --> 01:51:03,040
Speaker 8: just obliterated at home on Sunday Night football than the

2405
01:51:03,040 --> 01:51:03,920
Speaker 8: team I can't get past.

2406
01:51:03,960 --> 01:51:04,040
Speaker 19: Ye.

2407
01:51:04,080 --> 01:51:06,120
Speaker 4: Absolutely, It's all about the tone of voice, he said

2408
01:51:06,240 --> 01:51:08,040
Speaker 4: in a nice tone of voice. If he had said

2409
01:51:08,080 --> 01:51:10,519
Speaker 4: in a very smarmy, sarcastic tone of voice, that would

2410
01:51:10,520 --> 01:51:12,280
Speaker 4: have been like, I hope we do see you again

2411
01:51:12,720 --> 01:51:15,280
Speaker 4: in the playoffs. We'll see long, long, long way to go.

2412
01:51:15,920 --> 01:51:20,559
Speaker 4: Fun week for fun game in Baltimore. Not as close

2413
01:51:20,600 --> 01:51:23,080
Speaker 4: as we wanted, but good enough. We will be back.

2414
01:51:23,360 --> 01:51:25,040
Speaker 5: Shook. Nick at Night continues.

2415
01:51:25,439 --> 01:51:30,559
Speaker 4: It's been renewed for a fourth week here Monday Night football.

2416
01:51:30,600 --> 01:51:35,120
Speaker 4: We got the doubleheader Seahawks against the Lions. That's capping

2417
01:51:35,160 --> 01:51:38,880
Speaker 4: the night. We got the Titans and the Dolphins. Is

2418
01:51:38,960 --> 01:51:41,840
Speaker 4: kind of the undercart. It's a very it's a boxing feel.

2419
01:51:41,880 --> 01:51:44,479
Speaker 4: You got the warm up and you got the big show.

2420
01:51:44,560 --> 01:51:47,639
Speaker 4: It'll be a lot of fun. Join Nick and I

2421
01:51:47,720 --> 01:51:51,360
Speaker 4: check that out after Monday Night football. We'll see you then.

2422
01:51:51,560 --> 01:51:53,880
Speaker 4: If the Ravens are running, you know football is back.