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I think, Oh, hold on, an 46 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: in my notes? Did you do? Did you prepare notes 47 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: for this? I did? I left them in Atlanta. Of 48 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: course I thought about that earlier. Today. 49 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 2: I was just like, oh, should put those out and 50 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 2: I should start rotting some stuff down. And then it's 51 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 2: just like I didn't even burn paper with me. 52 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: Are you ready? Yeah, welcome back. It's a brand new 53 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: episode of Laugh with Me. I am your host, chemi Odum. 54 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: Brand new year, same old me, same al shell. And 55 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 1: I'm sure some of you feel the same way. Brand 56 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: new year on the calendar. But you know, I'm the 57 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: same person that I was the day before that. You know. 58 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: One of the things that came into clear that I'm 59 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: just the same old person was I just went and 60 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: got my haircut, and I'm sitting on the chair waiting 61 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: in line, and the guy in front of me is bald. 62 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: I was curious first, I was curious what he thought 63 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: he was doing there because there was nothing to cut, 64 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: but he was in front of me. I had to 65 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: wait my turn. You know, I was being patient. But 66 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: the other thing is, if it was knew me, I 67 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: would not have judged that situation. I would have waited patiently. 68 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: But I was not patient. I thought it was bullshit 69 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: that I was sitting behind the bald guy. And it's 70 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: not because oh, Jeremy's got hair, like I'm better than 71 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: those of you that are bald. No, I just I 72 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 1: have hair, and I'm there at a haircutting place, so 73 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: I'm there for the service. That was the breaks man. 74 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 1: But either way I waited, he ended up going up. 75 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: I ended up going up. He was done by the 76 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: time I had explained to the haircut lady what I 77 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: was getting. That's how quickly the bald guy was in 78 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: and out he left. So I'm assuming he paid with 79 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: sixteen dollars for I don't know, for the haircut lady 80 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: to rub her hands through his bald sculp. I don't know. 81 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: And then I had my experience, which is, this is 82 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: the same haircut lady I had last time. She has notes, 83 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: the same notes I've had for a couple of years now, 84 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: and uh, she she struggles. I mean she kind of 85 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: goes at it. I mean I had it was a 86 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: bad haircut last time, and I thought, well, she did 87 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 1: it last time, so it's gonna get better from here. 88 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 1: And I think it's her style. Like, I'm not a hairstylist, 89 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: so I'm not going to even begin to be able 90 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: to explain what she should be doing better, But i 91 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 1: will say this, if you're coming at me and you're 92 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: you're trying to get up to the lion here, you 93 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 1: see this line here, she was coming at it from 94 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: a side, which means she's gonna get all these hairs 95 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: up here to a clip too. So then I'm gonna 96 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: have all these little tiny hairs. So now unless I 97 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: completely like put some mold or paste or gel or 98 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: something in it to put those little hairs down, I'm 99 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 1: gonna have all these little hairs sticking up at all times. 100 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: And that's not ideal. That's not the situation I want. 101 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: I want all the long hairs and then the rest 102 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: of the hair, you know, shaved down with the one. 103 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: But she comes at it too, she like jagged. Like. 104 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: The best way I can explain how she cuts hair 105 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: is you know those like paintings where the artist just 106 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: like kind of slashes the paint onto the canvas and 107 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: when you when the artist is all done, it's not 108 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 1: like smooth painting, you know, smooth you know lines or anything. 109 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 1: It's just like that's how this lady cuts the hair. 110 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: And she's got a razor and she's just going at it, 111 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: and I don't know how she gets to the end 112 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: product that she does, which isn't good, but it's well 113 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: worth sixteen ninety nine. So that's you get what you 114 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 1: pay for, right. We have a fun episode for you today. 115 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 1: One of my best friends, one of my longest and 116 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 1: tallest friends, hits hair Aquar said, he's come to us 117 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: from Atlanta, Georgia. He's in studio and we have a 118 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: fun discussion. We look back man, we've been friends for 119 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: over twenty years and we just kind of go down 120 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: memory land a little bit and just kind of dig 121 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: into that. But along the way, lots of laughs, lots 122 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: of jokes, lots of fun, and we play an incredible 123 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,679 Speaker 1: game at the end of the episode called Instant Debate, 124 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: and basically you will want to stick around for that, 125 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: especially if you've been tracking along with the Ukraine and 126 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: Russia war that there's nothing funny about that. There is 127 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: nothing funny about that, but we're gonna try. So. We've 128 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: got a great guest. You've known him from nothing. You've 129 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: seen him on nothing, You've heard him on nothing. He's 130 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: one of my best friends. It's Eric Larsen on the 131 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: laugh with me. Well, Eric, thanks for joining the show. 132 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 2: I appreciate it. I appreciate being here, and you know, 133 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 2: I'm just excited to get started here, and you know, 134 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 2: hopefully I mean just knowing that this is the first time, 135 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 2: it'll it'll go well. 136 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: I think we there's the big elephant in the room 137 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: right now. I think we need to clear the error 138 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: on that. Folks who've heard the show may recognize your voice. No, no, 139 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: are you sure about that? 140 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 2: I'm positive about it. This is literally my first time. 141 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: This is your first appearance. 142 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 2: You're putting me on the spot here. It's like the 143 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 2: first time. It's hard enough. Yeah, I'm trying to lower 144 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 2: some expectations here because I just I just want to 145 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 2: Sometimes you just want to get through the first time this. 146 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: Is I've had. I've honestly had people say that they're nervous, 147 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: and I tell them every time I promise you this 148 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: is a safe space. 149 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 2: Well, I just you know, I'm trying to lower the 150 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 2: expectations here. You know, you want to get invited back. 151 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, you would want to get invited back. 152 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: I think in fairness, you have no no, okay, all right, Well. 153 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 2: I'm not not copping to whatever you're Okay, whatever you're saying. 154 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: That's that's fair. Well, Eric Larson, he's on laugh with me. 155 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: Folks that don't know you, which, oh, it's like everybody 156 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 1: right that listens probably. 157 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 2: Well, no, nobody that knows me would be very surprised 158 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 2: by the fact that I'm probably your most problematic guests 159 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 2: so far. Like every guest so far has been pretty 160 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 2: agreeable that they've gone along with your general flow. 161 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: But not today, not not today, No, not today, not 162 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: on my watch. Yeah that's okay though. Uh so, Eric, 163 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: we've known each other a long time. You're probably well, 164 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 1: you're probably my second oldest friend. Travis. I knew maybe 165 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: a semester of middle school, longer than I've known you. 166 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: We we've went to high school together. We've met each 167 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: other freshman year. I think, I don't know. Sometimes we 168 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: differ on this story, but I know when it was 169 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: like lunch and you were sitting by yourself, and I 170 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: was like, I should I should be this guy's friend. 171 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: Like I was like, I'm looking out for this guy. 172 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:54,839 Speaker 2: But I appreciate you saying that, you know, Travis is 173 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 2: your older friend by a semester of middle school, because technically, yes, 174 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 2: he's he's a friend of yours. That's half a year older. 175 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: He is half a year older than us. But we did. 176 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: We met in high school, we had some classes together, 177 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: and then we ended up. 178 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure I think you've got the stories confused, 179 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 2: because I think that was how you met Travis was 180 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 2: in the cafeteria. 181 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: No, you and I were. 182 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 2: We were a frenemies in mister Dodge's history class in 183 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 2: ninth grade. 184 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: That's right, we were. 185 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 2: We were the two overachievers, and we normally got pitted 186 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 2: against each other because we were also the most competitive. 187 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: That is actually true about you know history. Yeah, well 188 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 1: it's it's actually funny because I know nothing about history. 189 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: I think I was just a competitive person trying to 190 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: you know, rile ship up because well and really we 191 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: we peaked scholastically in high school before we met each other. 192 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's typically like the remainder of the three 193 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 2: and a half years was, you know, kind of just 194 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 2: a slow descent. 195 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: We were just trying to keep you know, it went 196 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: down hill from there. It's a funny story about Travis. 197 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: We both were new kids in school the middle of 198 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 1: eighth grade, so the last year in junior high. And 199 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: we were new kids at the same time. And I 200 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: took a chair. I needed a chair. I own Amemberle class. 201 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: It was science, I don't know, And I took a chair. 202 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: And I know these stories better than you know. He 203 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: was German piled up? Was it German class? Yeah, I guarantee, 204 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. 205 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 2: You've been telling the same stories for twenty five years. 206 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 2: They all blended yet together. 207 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: But the people that are listening to this show are 208 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,439 Speaker 1: hearing them for the first time, and we've just messed 209 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: up the story altogether. I'm sorry that I submarined this. 210 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 2: I'm sorry sorry that I torpedoed it before you get 211 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 2: to the punchline. 212 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing. In high school, it wasn't really 213 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: about the classes, even though we had a bunch of 214 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: classes together. It was it was about, you know, the 215 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: fun outside of that. I think we had fun in 216 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: class sometimes had nothing to do with the academics. We 217 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: learned that you have a zero grippage all together. So 218 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: you want explain to the people with grippages, and then 219 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: I'll explain how I'm better than you. 220 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, it's pretty much the result of bad 221 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 2: jeans as far as gripping things. 222 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: You blame your parents, Well, who else am I going 223 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: to blame? It's not my fault. 224 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 2: I was born this way. But yeah, we we discovered somehow, yeah, 225 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 2: through a some some I don't know how, you you know, 226 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 2: we did some trials. Basically, we we had a hypothesis 227 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 2: and we needed to figure out if it was true 228 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 2: or not. 229 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: So what we would do is we would take a 230 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 1: piece of paper. 231 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 2: We would lay it on the desk flat, and then 232 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 2: both of us would place our hands palm down, just 233 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 2: fingertips touching the piece of tip, and we would see, 234 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 2: you know, who could pull a piece of paper towards them. 235 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: And I was undefeated. I mean there was Yeah, it 236 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: was a landslide victory. 237 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 2: There was a short period there where I had, you know, 238 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 2: discovered the pinch. 239 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I could. 240 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 2: I could pinch the piece of paper a little bit 241 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 2: and pull it. But the rules committee quickly found it, 242 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 2: and yeah, that was fine, A small amount. 243 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: One hundred, probably a can of Surge or something back 244 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: in those days. But grippage is an important thing, and 245 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: I think the older I got, the more I appreciated 246 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: the grippage. And at that time it was just for 247 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: competitive purposes and I did use it to my advantage. 248 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 2: But only you could have found a way to make 249 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 2: money on the grippage back then. 250 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I really want to, but it just never never 251 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 1: panned out. 252 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 2: But you know, that was what or you know, if 253 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 2: you could palm a basketball, you know that would have 254 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 2: been a. 255 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: Say I can't, I can't palm a basketball? What? No, 256 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: you can't. I have incredible gripage. Are you kidding me? 257 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: I could palm with basketball. Have you never seen me 258 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: palma basketball? I mean, you've seen we do anything worthwhile. 259 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: You've seen me with a basketball many, many, many, many 260 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: many times. Yeah, I'm always palming that baby. Yeah, well 261 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: you obviously weren't passing it. Yeah. I don't pass the ball, 262 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: that's for camp. Sure, it's better in my hands than 263 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: anyone else. 264 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 2: I think, in my opinion, we were in an intermural 265 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 2: basketball league together, and I think I think the team 266 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 2: combined for three assists on the year. 267 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know, it's fun. I love our team 268 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 1: name that first year, Like, what was it that the 269 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: first year that they just named us Otaman Company. 270 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, we didn't give him the name that it wasn't 271 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 2: Otaman company. It wasn't company, it was company. They misspelled 272 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 2: your name, so it was. 273 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. So man, so many times people will either put 274 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: the N or they'll put the O. Where the egos 275 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: and my own, my own Dan team, it's awesome. Well, 276 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: one of the other things we did in high school 277 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: that I think has I don't know, put us in 278 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: a good spot. I think post academically, it was the 279 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: debate we're both in debate. My favorite, uh like memory 280 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: of being in debate what had nothing to do with 281 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: the competition. We had a coach wherehere were at Carneie 282 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: somewhere and he's we were just walking around the campus 283 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: in between rounds and he's just like, hey, we're doing 284 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: We found him like in an auditorium and I don't 285 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: know how long he talked, what did he even talk about? 286 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: He was just going on. He was hi as a kite. 287 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: I know, I knew, I didn't know then I know. 288 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 2: Now yeah, yeah, yeah. 289 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: He was our debate coach and that fellow isiac Kite. 290 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 2: I mean, you got to imagine this was the late nineties, 291 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 2: and that was probably the first time I ever saw 292 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 2: somebody with like beard oil Like he's the very silky 293 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 2: you know beard and hair. Yeah. 294 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: But you know, we came into debate. We skipped a 295 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: here we did, and so you know, I think we 296 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: both kind of hyped each other up, and it. 297 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 2: Was just like, let's get into debate. So we came 298 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 2: in there and we were older, and so we came 299 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 2: in there like rock stars. 300 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because most of the people taking the. 301 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 2: Second year of debate were like sophomores, and here we 302 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 2: were the coolest two juniors ever. 303 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: Obviously, yea, absolutely, So we were the kind of kids 304 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: that knew we were awesome because we carred ourself that way. Yeah, 305 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: but we weren't, I mean not at all. I mean 306 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: really when you broke it down, but we cared herself 307 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: as if we were. And the coach, you know, he 308 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: just thought, I'm just gonna sit here on my He 309 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: was laying on the on his back and just talking 310 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: philosophy with us. You remember, like looking for something to 311 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: eat in schools that used to have those like little 312 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: pits that be built into the floor, like a little 313 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: lot of tooris. 314 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, little lot of Torents. But I remember that was 315 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 2: what we founded in Carnie and I think he was 316 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 2: at the college. So yeah, he did a whole like 317 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 2: presentation just for the two of us. 318 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll never forget that. He was fired shortly after that. Yeah, yeah, 319 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: poor guy had nothing to do with us. I had 320 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: nothing to do with us. But yeah, I'm not going 321 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: down for that. But but it's like the. 322 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 2: Further away you got to keep those relationships between the 323 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 2: students and the teachers from happening. 324 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: That's very true. I know, like the further we get 325 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: from uh, from that, I'm like, man, that guy he 326 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: was on something special that day. Probably all the time, honestly, 327 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: but that day we saw it. 328 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 2: Well. And do you remember like one of the years 329 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 2: he did like an awards ceremony type of thing, like 330 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 2: he had the whole team like there after class and 331 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 2: then he basically had like individual awards and I just 332 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 2: remember like he teamed up ours and was just like, oh, 333 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 2: these guys are the most even killed. 334 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 1: But it was like a twenty minute speech about how basically. 335 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 2: Saying like we lost like every round, but we never 336 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 2: gave up. 337 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: We never gave up. We've never had two people that 338 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 1: lost so much but tried so hard. 339 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, how can you say that you know 340 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 2: it was a failure. You were the third speaker at Central. 341 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: I was third speaker at Central one time, and you 342 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: were the fifth speaker. I was a fifth speaker. That's 343 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: that's still one of my That's probably a top ten 344 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: accomplishment in my life. You're disagreeing or you're just like 345 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 1: you have a sad life, because. 346 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 2: That's the top That was the pity look. That was 347 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 2: the pity look for those of you at home. Oh man, 348 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 2: I'm feeling bad for a boy jerk. I mean even 349 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 2: Johnny covered his face when you said that, thanks. 350 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 1: For your hard work, Johnny Mery Christmas. 351 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 2: Now he even looks more bad. 352 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: He doesn't talk. I tell you that someday I'm again 353 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: to talk. Well, after high school, we ended up at 354 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: college together, but not at the same time I started. 355 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: And I've had a few of the folks from college 356 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: from that era on the show. Frank Olmstead and then 357 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: Grant Pearson and you also worked at the River with us, 358 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 1: and were was on air talent and you weren't. You 359 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: weren't like student management like Grant was. Were you? Were 360 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: you a music director? I was the music director there. Okay, 361 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,199 Speaker 1: did you have to do anything for that? Yeah? So 362 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: I picked the new music that would come out. You 363 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: picked it or the label sent it, and you were like, 364 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: here it is. 365 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 2: Well, the label would send it, and then me, the 366 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 2: station director at the time, Bill Stewart, and Grant would 367 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 2: sit in a little room and we would determine what 368 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 2: to play. 369 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: Correct me if I'm wrong, But didn't we have a 370 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 1: show that did this like turn it or burn it? 371 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: And you'd play the new songs and the audience would 372 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 1: pick the song, no comment. 373 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 2: Those were totally legit and elections and we totally had 374 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 2: not made up the decision before him. 375 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: Oh shit, So okay, so that was rat I didn't 376 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 1: know that before I brought this up, by the way. 377 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 2: So my favorite thing was, you know, each year they 378 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,679 Speaker 2: would have kind of a draft, you know, and they 379 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 2: would rank the talent. 380 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 1: Yep. 381 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 2: Well, so for my second year, you know, I was like, 382 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 2: I think I was second, So I got the second pick. 383 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 2: So I picked two of the Tournator burnet shows. I 384 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:25,360 Speaker 2: had the nine p m. Till midnight primetime. Yeah, and 385 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 2: so as music director then I would also get to 386 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:28,719 Speaker 2: pick the music. 387 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 1: Oh so you were. So I would grab, oh, hey, 388 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: here's the new Green Day single. Oh cook the books? 389 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: What are we going to do with this one? Like 390 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: I would grab the fun ones. I think it is 391 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: breaking news. Yeah, you're cooking the books over there at 392 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: the river. 393 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 2: Any anybody who listened in two thousand and three, Yeah, 394 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 2: they were. 395 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 1: I was the puppet master, they were the puppet you 396 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: you were number two to grant it number one? I 397 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: don't think so. I don't remember. Dang, poor guy. You 398 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 1: would have thought he would, you know, Frank Frank getting 399 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: number one. He probably was. He probably was. He was solid, 400 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: you know, like I was telling him, like his production 401 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 1: stuff was just insane, the commercials and the promo like everything. 402 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: It was just a wizard with the audio stuff. 403 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 2: But that's actually the part that I've missed the most 404 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 2: is the production that went on behind the scenes. 405 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: Really. Yeah. 406 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 2: I remember one of my first projects that I did 407 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 2: when I was on there, when you took the class, 408 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 2: the actual editing class, Capone gave us a project to 409 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 2: basically put together a promo for any band pastor present. 410 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 2: So I picked I think it was, you know, Frank Sinatra, 411 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 2: Tupac and Drowning Pool. And I remember I had like 412 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 2: one edit going from the let the Bodies Hit the 413 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 2: Floor and Drowning Pool into a two box song that's awesome. 414 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 2: And I just remember Capone like rewinding it ten times 415 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 2: trying to find the edit, just trying to find the cut, 416 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 2: and he was he was just blown away. He was 417 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 2: like that's great, And it just kind of instilled that 418 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 2: like love of like, oh, well, this is well put together. 419 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 2: This could be fun. 420 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's awesome. Why didn't you keep going with it? 421 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 1: Is it? Because AI pretty much does all this for us. 422 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: Now you just saw you saw down the line, You're like, 423 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 1: there's no future in this. 424 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean radio is in a tough spot now. 425 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 2: It was in a tough spot twenty years ago too, 426 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 2: so I gave up the dream. 427 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: I'd say arguably it was in a worse spot than 428 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: than it is today because I think people kind of 429 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: get the idea of what satellite radio is and it 430 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: didn't kill you know, it didn't kill you know, over 431 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: the year radio like well, they thought it would. 432 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 2: And that's where I mean like you and Grant went 433 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 2: on afterwards to do kind of syndicated or not kind 434 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 2: of where you're you're talking to different markets and yep, 435 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 2: we'll I always remember that because my second year at 436 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 2: the River, I got a call one night and it 437 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 2: was from somebody who identified himself and said that he 438 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 2: was with a radio station HP, and he was just like, Eric, 439 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 2: you know I've listened to your stuff, like you really 440 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 2: saw it. Why don't you come in? And I remember, 441 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 2: you know, we recorded every phone call because you never 442 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 2: knew when you would strike gold. Yeah, and it was 443 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 2: always fun to you know, play the game of scene, 444 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 2: how long you could keep the you know, telemarketer or 445 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 2: whatever it was. 446 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: On the phone. That was my favorite stuff. 447 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 2: But I played it for another student who was just 448 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 2: happened to be there, and he was just like, oh, 449 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 2: this guy's identifying himself as Polycronapolis, Like this is obviously 450 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 2: a scam. This guy, this guy's pranking you. Like we're 451 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 2: still close enough to when Adam Sandler was making album, 452 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,439 Speaker 2: so yeah, this was still so I deleted it and 453 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 2: then you and. 454 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: Grant ended up working for that guy. We did, and 455 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: then the guy is a big freaking deal in Minneapolis. Now. 456 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, and that's where you know, you kind of 457 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 2: runt with those pivot points in your life. So I 458 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 2: always think that that was my opportunity to. 459 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: Go into radio. Yep. 460 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 2: When I didn't do that, it's kind of like when 461 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 2: you finished third at Central and how that determined your 462 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 2: life going after that, I would never speak again. I 463 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 2: mean if you didn't get that, if you didn't have 464 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 2: that top ten moment in your life. 465 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's true. What's going differently? Yep, it 466 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: kind of like shot me to the moon of seking 467 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: to people, right. 468 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 469 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: I never would have put myself in a position at 470 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 1: grocery stores to talk in front of a whole team, 471 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 1: and then would put me in position to want to 472 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: go on stage and tell you Chrome's jokes and then 473 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 1: even more so talk to folks in my basement. 474 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 2: I mean my first job was at at kmart and 475 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 2: those radio skills. 476 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 1: I was the best at the man the intercoms. I 477 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,439 Speaker 1: did you have a script or were you just free flowing? 478 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: Mostly just free flowing. 479 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,239 Speaker 2: I mean the products sold themselves, I mean they were 480 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 2: bargains and I had this big blue rotating light, so there. 481 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: Was really a light. Oh yeah, I guess I didn't 482 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: frequently came whenever I went to camera. Was just the 483 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: se went bankrupt spent too much on them lights? Yeah, yeah. 484 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 1: The I would do the my base. I mean, I 485 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 1: would do sales promos on the intercom at the grocery store. 486 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 1: But I would also whenever I was aging somebody, like 487 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: let's say it was a cashier, I need a manager. 488 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: It's just before I old enough to like sell alcohol, 489 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: I would I would just put on a performance. I'd 490 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: be like, need a manager on and then I would 491 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: just pause. I would see how long I could go 492 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: the pause, and then be like register three, and then 493 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,239 Speaker 1: you know the manager had come over. And it was 494 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: fun for a while. And then people started to be like, 495 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: what are you doing. You're holding up the whole operation 496 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 1: because then you know, people couldn't talk on the intercot 497 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: because I'm just trying. 498 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 2: To customer service has got that call they need to 499 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 2: transfer to the meat. 500 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 1: Department, right, and I'm over here. It's you know, it's 501 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: Christmas Eve and we're busy as hell and I'm over 502 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 1: here running bits. But it was fun. 503 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 2: What I love too is my biggest memory of you 504 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 2: when you worked at IVY back in those days was 505 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 2: the fact that you had one knot in your tie. 506 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 2: I did, and you never untied it. 507 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 1: Nope. 508 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 2: So the knot would just every time you tighten it, it 509 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 2: would get smaller and smaller. I swear it was like 510 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 2: the size of my thumbnail. 511 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, I did. I really did that because 512 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: I couldn't tie it. And then it was actually my 513 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: father in law. He was before we were married. I 514 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 1: didn't have a one knot tie all until I was married, 515 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: but we would. Uh, he showed me how to tie. 516 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: I think he noticed my tie and was like, well 517 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: me straight, and actually it's pretty easy to tie tie. Yeah, 518 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: very very easy. This is before you could just YouTube anything. 519 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 2: I like how you were fishing for empathy on that. 520 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: I mean that's obviously like I really was. 521 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 2: It's kind of like you help a wounded animal, like 522 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 2: you feel the bond, you want to take care of it. 523 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: Yep. 524 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 2: Like he ties your tie for you, and it's just like, sir, 525 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 2: can I marry your dubtor? 526 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly how I went down. And then he's like, 527 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 1: you know what if you can tie your tie for 528 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:50,439 Speaker 1: three months? Straight, we'll talk about it, and damn it, 529 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: I went six months straight. So still going strong, Still 530 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: going strong. I did have a brief period of the 531 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: zip bond tie. M m oh. That sucks because if 532 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: you get loose and then it like then you people 533 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: see what you have going. You can't get caught with 534 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,199 Speaker 1: that time. No, it's fun if they don't know what 535 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 1: you're doing. Yeah, it's a nightmare. If they know what 536 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 1: you're doing. No, I mean it's like wearing a two 537 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: pey or can you imagine being a magician and everyone 538 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: can see how you're performing your tricks? Like, that's not cool, 539 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: there's no illusion. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was just a 540 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 1: little magician with stocking groceries. Did you just snort? 541 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 2: This is a very good microphone. 542 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: That was great when you said your fair part of 543 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: me at the high By in the old days. I 544 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: thought you were going to talk about the egg and 545 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I'll talk about some egg band stuff. 546 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 1: But you went into the die like that caught me 547 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: that the memories rushed back. That was awesome. 548 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 2: Well, I'm practically caught up with the show here, so 549 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 2: I already know that you've talked about the egg man. 550 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: I know that he's established character. That's good and the U. 551 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: You briefly worked at the Ivy back in that period 552 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 1: as well, and you worked in the bakery. I think 553 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: I did a lot of the work for you, just 554 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: hanging out waiting for you to get off work. So 555 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: you hang out, but I wouldn't get off till like eight. Yeah, 556 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: it's so late. So normally you would show. 557 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 2: Up at like seven thirty, like let's go get a 558 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 2: beer mm hmm, and it'd be like, I need to 559 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 2: clean these dishes first. 560 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 1: Yep, and this is sweep. I remember doing a lot 561 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: of sweet that I kind of like do the eye thing, 562 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: you know, and help out. Are you going to just 563 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,360 Speaker 1: sit there? Yeah? Oh man? Did you ever pull any 564 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: pranks back there? Mmmm? 565 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 2: No No, I mean they are nothing for anything more 566 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 2: than my own amusement. 567 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: I would I did pull some brakes. I remember same store. 568 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 1: I was working in the dairy, So the Crosshouse had 569 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: the store, but in the dairy, in that little like 570 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 1: cove was where the slice meat counter was, and they 571 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: had a sink, you know, like you have to have 572 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: a sink to wash dishes and one up and I 573 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: would wait till they had it like full of water 574 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 1: and then I dropped some like dry ice in it. 575 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: It would just smoke up. I'd be like, what are 576 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: you guys doing packed there? No, No, I was. 577 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 2: I was very serious. I was very focused on the bakery. 578 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 2: I think my favorite part was just remember one time 579 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 2: I was there after five o'clock, so I was the 580 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 2: only person back there, and this lady she brought in 581 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 2: a cake that she had purchased earlier in the day, 582 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 2: and we had the cake decorators had misspelled the name 583 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 2: on it, and so she wanted to know if I 584 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 2: could fix it. And so, with all the confidence of 585 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 2: a eighteen year old working at IV, I was just 586 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 2: like absolutely. So I got out, I got out my 587 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 2: kind of scraper, and I started going to work, and 588 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 2: she was getting more and more nervous the farther it 589 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 2: went on. And it's just like, no, man, step away. 590 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: I got this. 591 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 2: I'm going to save this cake. You're hardly going to 592 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 2: know any thing happened. 593 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: And you wrote it on a piece of paper and 594 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: put the piece of paper on top of the cake. 595 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: Is that how you fix it? No? Oh, I actually 596 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: actually did it. It was you know, it kind of 597 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: looked like. 598 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 2: An a or a d like she She eventually took 599 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 2: the cake forcibly back from me. 600 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: I will say, was that the only time you wrote 601 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: on a cake? Yes? In a professional capacity, Yes, I 602 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: will say I have written on many a cake, and 603 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: I have given away many a cake for free. 604 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 2: Now that's customer service. That's the way to turn a 605 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 2: negative into a positive experience. 606 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, it's it's that's just not something that I'm 607 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: good at. I'm sure if I did it often, I 608 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: could get better, but I'm not very good at that. 609 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: They gave me. 610 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 2: They gave me a bag of the icing, yeah, to practice, 611 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 2: like they one of my first weeks there, they were like, 612 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 2: take this home and you know, just practice like writing. 613 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: Did you do that? No? No, it seemed like let 614 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: me do. I think you'd even do your homework. 615 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 2: I think I just threw it in a cupboard and 616 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure MI ate it at some point. 617 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh man, that's awesome. Those good times. Well, we're 618 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: on that same era. I know, we were not just 619 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: being creative with like writing on cakes. We had this. 620 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: We would hang out your your parents would go out 621 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: of town, so they said, don't have people over, So 622 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: we hung out at your place. And we had this 623 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: idea one time. So we had this video camera and 624 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 1: I think we were like YouTubers before YouTube. Oh that thing. Honestly, 625 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: I think we created we invented it. 626 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 2: Well, that thing would have definitely been uploaded and would 627 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 2: have yeah, at least three hundred views by now. 628 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: We thought we were so interesting. It's actually kind of 629 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: it's actually pretty similar to this where we thought we 630 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: were so interesting. But we we set up a camera 631 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 1: in the living room and we literally just sat on 632 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: a couch. It was you me, was it Mark Rude 633 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: that was there that time, the first one. Yeah, And 634 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: we just set up a camera just watching us watch TV. 635 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 2: And then that was breaking like for for nineteen, you know, 636 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 2: ninety nine, two thousand. 637 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, like you know, it's funny breaking television. But now 638 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 1: that's what people do online. People watch, people watch like sports, 639 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: like we were doing that twenty plus years ago. And 640 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 1: but we you know, we didn't say or do anything interesting. 641 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: We were just sitting there wa watch it. 642 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 2: T Yeah. Well, Mark didn't do anything that marked it. 643 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 2: You're right, I mean you you kind of like slid 644 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 2: underneath like one of the cushions. 645 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. Yeah, I was running a bit where 646 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 1: I was just slowly over time ending up in the 647 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: cushions of the couch. But so anyway, but that was fun. 648 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: We watched it and we were laughing. We thought that 649 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: was great. We called it just hanging Out because it 650 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: was literally us just hanging out. I thought that was fun. 651 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: And then another time we were like, well, this time 652 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: we got to amp it up and not and we're 653 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: gonna write skits. We were sketches sequel Latest, Yeah, just 654 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 1: hanging out too. And we were like, because our friends 655 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: they watched Just hanging Out, They're like, oh, this is funny. 656 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: We're like, well, thanks, yeah, we're pretty genius. And then 657 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: we were just hanging out too, and we actually did 658 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: sketches and we wrote, we we directed, we filmed, we 659 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 1: created the whole deal, and we had a movie premiere 660 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: and your house was flooded with people and we showcased 661 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: just hanging Out too. It was probably our biggest box 662 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: office hit, and when the box office wasn't dollars back then, 663 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: it was probably two lar pop, some ding Dongs, maybe pizza. 664 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 1: But it was awesome. I think we were doing sketches. 665 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: We weren't doing sketches before Saturday Night Live. But we 666 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: were doing sketches before streamers, you know, before anybody else. 667 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 2: And it was great humor too. There was a map 668 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 2: joke in there. 669 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: There was a matter of bathroom humor. We were hitting 670 00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: all yeah, and then our artistic vision took a speed 671 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: bump when we thought we'd hit the trilogy and go 672 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: just hanging out three. 673 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 2: Definitely the most artistic of the three movies. 674 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: And that one was just starring you and I because 675 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: and the plan and he had a plant as our 676 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 1: co star and a McDonald's drive through. We did go 677 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,479 Speaker 1: through McDonald's rivet through in that one. I don't know 678 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 1: it was bad, but I you know what, I think 679 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: that just hanging out like the idea of it us 680 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: watching TV. That's literally what people do now. 681 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 2: So I mean sometimes it's important to make a bad 682 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 2: movie when you're young. 683 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 684 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 2: So then when you're you know, when you're in your prime, 685 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 2: you know those same mistakes. 686 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, get it out of your isn't it. 687 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 2: Don't ever invite the plant on your radio show. 688 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 1: Yeah when I when I have a plant as the guest, 689 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: it's over. 690 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 2: The last episode. 691 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh man, Well that's kind of that was us 692 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: as kids for the most part, we're just having fun. 693 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 1: But like then we grew up, we got your we moved, Yeah, 694 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: we moved for that stuff. But so your career, your 695 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 1: career path took you into transportation. You've come and gone 696 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 1: in that world. I'm sure you've seen things, You've heard, things, 697 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 1: You've got like some stories and that I who was 698 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 1: I taught who was on the show. We talked about 699 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 1: lot lizards. Frank we were talking about a lot lizards 700 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 1: and he was very into that. But I'm sure you've seen, 701 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: you've heard most are shut out for Yeah, uh, what 702 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: do you think I mean, transportation, give us, give us 703 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 1: something that would I don't know, put a smile on 704 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 1: our face. Oh man, put put me on the spot here, 705 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,280 Speaker 1: that's you're the guest. Yeah, I'm putting on the spot. 706 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know that I have anything that is 707 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 2: too funny without you know, incrimination. 708 00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: Okay, that's a good. 709 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,320 Speaker 2: But I will say, you know, in our younger days, 710 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 2: you know, I had brown hair, and now it's you know, 711 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:07,840 Speaker 2: it started going gray at like twenty six. 712 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm pretty sure due to transportation. So when everybody 713 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 1: is here's here's something I don't think a lot of 714 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 1: people think about is it's you know, it's Christmas time 715 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,800 Speaker 1: and it's the biggest like season of spending money and 716 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 1: shopping of the year, right and it kicks off with 717 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: Black Friday. But everything that has to happen for Black Friday, 718 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 1: the wheels are literally turning in your world. Oh at 719 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 1: what point? 720 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 2: I mean when is that all starting on your end? 721 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 2: So for the Black Friday for any of those retailers, 722 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 2: starting way. 723 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 1: Back in October. 724 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 2: Okay, so a lot of those guys, the month of 725 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,839 Speaker 2: December is kind of a little bit of a yawner. 726 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 2: But for food, like bringing stuff into grocery stores and 727 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 2: that kind of stuff like that goes like crazy. 728 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: That's going nuts. Yeah. Yeah, So like when let's say 729 00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: Target buys who knows how many semi loads of TVs. 730 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 1: Obviously October is when they're rolling into the like Target warehouses, 731 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 1: but you're taking them from manufacturer to Target at at 732 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 1: what like what before? Then? 733 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 2: Early enough to annoy the people that work at the 734 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 2: store who are just like, where am I going to 735 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:20,439 Speaker 2: find room in my back room? 736 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 1: You know what I compare it to when on November one. No, 737 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: I'll even take it even further back to say I'll 738 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:37,319 Speaker 1: take it even further back to July fifth, when we 739 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 1: start to roll out Halloween candy at the grocery store 740 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 1: and all the customers are like, already Halloween already, I'll 741 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 1: bet you. At the warehouse they're like, TV's already, so 742 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 1: Friday already. And that kind of. 743 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 2: Reminds me of one of them where we had there 744 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 2: was a big hurricane that hit, you know, probably eight 745 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,799 Speaker 2: or nine years ago down in Texas, and so we 746 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 2: had a hard work customer that we were doing emergency 747 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,359 Speaker 2: loads down too, and it would be like generators and. 748 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 1: A lot of that stuff like that people have to have. 749 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 1: Mm hm. 750 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 2: Well the warehouse, the DC was like, well, we've got 751 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 2: like half the truck here that we're not using, so 752 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:15,879 Speaker 2: let's put a whole bunch of Christmas stuff in there. 753 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 2: So we would send these trucks in to deliver the 754 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 2: store and the store would be like we just got 755 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 2: hit by a hurricane. Yeah, like yes, thank you for 756 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 2: these generators. I can just pull a palette out, put 757 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 2: it on the aisle and it's gone. 758 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 1: But what am I going to do with all this Christmas? 759 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 2: And we would just have to tell our drivers like 760 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 2: just stay there, We'll get corporate involved, and then corporate 761 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,239 Speaker 2: would have to call and be like you're taking it, 762 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 2: like we. 763 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 1: Paid for the transportation you're taking Oh geez, I'm going 764 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: to side with the store with this one that maybe 765 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 1: we could have delayed it, but it makes sense. I mean, 766 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 1: there's dollars involved all the way through the process. 767 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 2: But and that's the lesson of transportation is just that 768 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 2: we're always right in the middle. 769 00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 1: Yep. 770 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 2: So we get we get all the grief. We catch 771 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 2: arrows from both the store that's receiving it, like why 772 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 2: are you bringing this to me? 773 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 1: Yep? And it's just like I didn't load the truck. 774 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:06,879 Speaker 1: And then we're also getting it from the. 775 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,320 Speaker 2: Other side of just why aren't you delivering this stuff faster? 776 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 2: Why were you late to your second stop? And it 777 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 2: was like because you didn't want to unload Frosty the Snowman. 778 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 1: And that happens. That's where it's like they roll up 779 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,760 Speaker 1: to the back of the store and the back room's full. 780 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 1: It's not the truck driver's fault that the back room's full, 781 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,360 Speaker 1: and the person at the store is like, well, I 782 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 1: don't have any room for it. And really, when you 783 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 1: think about it, it's the store's fault of the back 784 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 1: room's fall. Yeah, they got to take it, and they'll 785 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:37,840 Speaker 1: they'll say no, they'll reject the truck, and it's a 786 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:42,279 Speaker 1: whole deal. I've had drivers have to stick around, you know, 787 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,319 Speaker 1: and sit in the parking lot overnight just because somebody Nope, 788 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 1: I'm not making that call someone else's and they don't 789 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 1: get to go home to their family that night. You 790 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 1: know that sucks. 791 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,879 Speaker 2: No, I mean that's where you say the challenge is now. 792 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 2: It's like, who do you know find me a zoomer 793 00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 2: that wants to go away. 794 00:38:58,400 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 1: From home for two weeks? Yep. 795 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,879 Speaker 2: So you do see some of the cool ones where 796 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,239 Speaker 2: they've modified the inside of that cab and it's you know, 797 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 2: they got a big screen TV in there, Like you'd 798 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 2: be amazed what they can fit in this little five 799 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 2: by five by five space. 800 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:12,319 Speaker 1: Oh really, Like they. 801 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 2: Can make it really really comfortable. But yeah, we've kind 802 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,799 Speaker 2: of progressed a little bit. You know, Society kind of 803 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:20,719 Speaker 2: is like, oh, well, do I really want to stay 804 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,439 Speaker 2: at a truck stop overneck? Do I want to stay 805 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 2: parked outside of a store overneck? 806 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 1: Yep? So it makes it very very tough to recruit them. 807 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 1: Why why wasn't it like exhibit doing pit my ride 808 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,920 Speaker 1: to those cabs and like putting fish tanks and stuff 809 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,239 Speaker 1: in the. 810 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 2: Aesome And that's something like you'll see a lot of 811 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,319 Speaker 2: them out there. I mean, those owner ops that own 812 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,359 Speaker 2: the truck, Like those are the ones that you see 813 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 2: that pimp their rides. 814 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 1: So is that primarily that's your drivers or ones that 815 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,800 Speaker 1: own Yeah, did they individually own it? They're gonna do it, Okay. 816 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 2: Most of your big carriers are just going to buy 817 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 2: the trucks, drive them for three or four years, and 818 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 2: then resell them. 819 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 1: Oh okay. I'm just so familiar with on the grocery side, 820 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 1: and it's drivers that generally work for the company, yep, 821 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 1: and you know they just pull up and then here's 822 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 1: your cab for the day and you go and yeah, 823 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 1: I mean a lot of times it is their cab 824 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 1: because you see so many of like especially at HIV 825 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,760 Speaker 1: where you got the gold cab, because so many miles 826 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 1: you know, accident free or whatever, which is just freaking 827 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,960 Speaker 1: amazing to me that they can do that. I mean, 828 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 1: how often are you just driving and your We were 829 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 1: just talking to our friend Traps yesterday and he's got 830 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 1: a Tesla and he's like, yeah, it's a light pole, 831 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 1: and it's like it just freaking happens. But you got 832 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 1: these guys going, you know, a million miles and no accidents. Yeah, 833 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:36,880 Speaker 1: it's impressive. 834 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,279 Speaker 2: Nope, that's what I used to have to when I 835 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 2: lived here in Omaha. Sometimes i'd have to host drivers 836 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 2: that were coming in for multimillion miles. And I remember 837 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 2: that one of them, it was a lady and she 838 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 2: had two million, oh wow, and she talked about the 839 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:49,800 Speaker 2: first time she drove a truck. 840 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,399 Speaker 1: It was during the winter and she forgot to you know. 841 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,320 Speaker 2: Hit the clutch and the brake at the right moment, 842 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:58,839 Speaker 2: and she slid through like a stoplight in the first 843 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 2: five miles that she would Now, luckily she didn't hurt herself, 844 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,720 Speaker 2: she didn't hurt anybody else, didn't get an accident. 845 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 1: The next one million. 846 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 2: Nine ninety nine nine and ninety five miles were flawless. Yeah, 847 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,319 Speaker 2: but like you know, it just it doesn't take much 848 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:14,759 Speaker 2: to screw that kind of a spree gup. 849 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:16,719 Speaker 1: It really doesn't. And it doesn't matter if it's your 850 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:18,480 Speaker 1: fault or not. I mean, you think about all the 851 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:23,279 Speaker 1: people around you on the road that could just yep. Yeah, Well, 852 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,880 Speaker 1: kudos all those drivers out there that are are making 853 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 1: it without an accident. It's pretty it's pretty damn impressive. 854 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 1: I'm always afraid of when you're driving, and this has 855 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,440 Speaker 1: been ever since I was a kid driving on the 856 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 1: Interstate and you look over to the right, you know, 857 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,960 Speaker 1: and I'm in the back seat and there's a semi 858 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 1: I'm afraid those bolts are going to get loose and 859 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 1: just like shoot out at me or something. And I 860 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,840 Speaker 1: know that's not not a thing, but I definitely feel 861 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:48,919 Speaker 1: like it could happen. Yeah. 862 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure that's in a Batman movie where they 863 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 2: got those spikes coming out of the hubcast. 864 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,439 Speaker 1: Oh yeah. And you know, it's probably why I got 865 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 1: how I got that fear. And then you know, when 866 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 1: you're walking around in like the back rooms or even 867 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 1: in the on the sales floor different stores, and you 868 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,960 Speaker 1: see like cardboard boxes and like the flap is like 869 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 1: hanging out, I have this like irrational fear that one's 870 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna get a paper cut on my eyeball 871 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 1: from one of those I'm just gonna walk right into it, now, 872 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,360 Speaker 1: you do, I mean, you probably didn't think about that 873 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,880 Speaker 1: stuff before. I'm I'm kind of confused by the logistics here. 874 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,839 Speaker 2: I mean, you wear glasses. I do wear glasses. Are 875 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,920 Speaker 2: you thinking that the paper like it's gonna go through 876 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 2: the glasses. 877 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,279 Speaker 1: You're acting like I've never had something go like in 878 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,879 Speaker 1: between my glasses in my head. I have every time 879 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:35,279 Speaker 1: it rains, I get water in there. Every time I 880 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,440 Speaker 1: don't know, my hair goes down in front of my face, 881 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 1: it goes down in between. So I'm aware that things 882 00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,920 Speaker 1: can go in between the glasses in my face. So 883 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,319 Speaker 1: I'm afraid that I'm gonna get a cardboard paper You're 884 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,920 Speaker 1: kind of cardboard paper cut. I am absolutely shocked that 885 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 1: you didn't say pepper spray right there. Oh, he was 886 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,960 Speaker 1: son of a bitch. I anybody who's never been pepper 887 00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 1: sprayed and wants to talk shit about getting pepper sprayed, 888 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 1: bring it. It was one of the worst experiences. 889 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:06,040 Speaker 2: Of my life, I know, and you talk about it 890 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 2: every single time I see. 891 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,240 Speaker 1: You, and one of the ones I love talking about 892 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:14,239 Speaker 1: because not many people have been pepper sprayed. What do 893 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 1: you got? I was pepper spray and I lived to 894 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:17,759 Speaker 1: tell my tale. 895 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,839 Speaker 2: I'm probably gonna pepper spray some Travis next time. 896 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,880 Speaker 1: I say you should, it's just so you know, with 897 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:29,840 Speaker 1: that's like, yeah, well, the stress and pressures and bullshit. 898 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 1: Sometimes of work can catch up to you. I know 899 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,640 Speaker 1: one time it caught up to you, and you were 900 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,439 Speaker 1: just like, you know what, guys, I'm out and I've 901 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,360 Speaker 1: I You inspired me and I did the very same 902 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,400 Speaker 1: thing at one point in my life as well. You 903 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,359 Speaker 1: had what we called the summer of Eric, where you 904 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:47,360 Speaker 1: just quit your job and moved on to vacation for 905 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,560 Speaker 1: an extended time. Tell us about the summer of Era 906 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 1: and how can we inspire others to do the same. 907 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,920 Speaker 2: But I really, you know, as I mentioned, I think 908 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:57,920 Speaker 2: transportation started my hair turning. 909 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,760 Speaker 1: Gray a very early age. Yeah, so I really. 910 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,160 Speaker 2: Was hoping that the whole process would kind of reverse that. 911 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 2: It did not. 912 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:10,320 Speaker 1: It did not. But no, when I when I worked 913 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:11,920 Speaker 1: the company. 914 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,360 Speaker 2: I'd worked for, I did a ton of traveling. So 915 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,319 Speaker 2: I had a ton of the points, you know, airlines. 916 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,680 Speaker 2: I was you know, VIP, Diamond, Platinum. I had rental 917 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,960 Speaker 2: cars and hotels and stuff. I did a lot of 918 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:28,200 Speaker 2: traveling during them, so it was kind of a you know, 919 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 2: be at home. Well, I can't find a job this 920 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,480 Speaker 2: month because I've got this trip, you know, coming up. 921 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,000 Speaker 2: I'm going to go up to Minnesota, or I'm going 922 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:36,560 Speaker 2: to go to Vegas, or I'm going to go to 923 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,279 Speaker 2: Vegas again, or I'm going to go to Vegas again. 924 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,439 Speaker 2: I went to Vegas actually three times that year during 925 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 2: the summer bear, Yeah, during the summer of Eric and 926 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:50,360 Speaker 2: each time, you know, the gambling losses I got a 927 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:54,759 Speaker 2: little bit more concerning. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, by 928 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,040 Speaker 2: that last one it was like probably, it was like, well, 929 00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:58,080 Speaker 2: I probably should get a. 930 00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,359 Speaker 1: Job now would you say that the house put you 931 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:02,280 Speaker 1: back to work? 932 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,840 Speaker 2: But see, I was still on my hot streak, you know. 933 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,480 Speaker 2: But so you know, we both like to play blackjack 934 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:09,920 Speaker 2: quite a. 935 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:10,399 Speaker 1: Bit more after. 936 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:14,000 Speaker 2: The advantage with blackjack is just that you can't you 937 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,160 Speaker 2: don't necessarily have the ability to like you're never gonna 938 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,000 Speaker 2: walk away with life changing money, right, but if you're 939 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:20,839 Speaker 2: playing well, like you can play for a long time 940 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:22,279 Speaker 2: and break even. 941 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can play for hours and feel like you've 942 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,640 Speaker 1: been entertained enough to spend two hundred bucks. Yeah. Absolutely so. 943 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,000 Speaker 2: I think like the first five times I went to Vegas, 944 00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,239 Speaker 2: I every single time I won on my gambling that 945 00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,200 Speaker 2: was all it was like one hundred dollars here, two 946 00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,600 Speaker 2: hundred dollars there. But it kind of gave me this 947 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,759 Speaker 2: like thought process that like, hey, I can always come 948 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:47,240 Speaker 2: out and at least come out even yep. 949 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:48,520 Speaker 1: So now I just. 950 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:52,759 Speaker 2: Chase that high for the rest of my life. It's 951 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 2: always just like, yeah, just one hundred dollars more. This 952 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,000 Speaker 2: is all it's gonna change here, two hundred dollars more 953 00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:57,600 Speaker 2: on this table. 954 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:02,960 Speaker 3: You've had some epic runs though, yeah, yeah, at the 955 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:07,120 Speaker 3: table where you walk away and you've got I don't know, 956 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,400 Speaker 3: you've walked away from a table to move on to 957 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,359 Speaker 3: wherever you're at and had a you know, I don't 958 00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,080 Speaker 3: know when. 959 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:17,160 Speaker 1: You're how old was your twenty five? You know, probably 960 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,880 Speaker 1: around there, right, and you got a grand in your 961 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,880 Speaker 1: pocket five hundred bucks, seven hundred bucks or something from winning, 962 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,160 Speaker 1: and you're like, I'm keen shit, and I'm going to 963 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,600 Speaker 1: go to the next table or a next casino and 964 00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,400 Speaker 1: find a table and I'm just I'm gonna double it 965 00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:30,319 Speaker 1: or whatever I'm gonna do. 966 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,400 Speaker 2: That was actually the first trip I actually ever went 967 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,759 Speaker 2: to Vegas. We were there for three nights, so you know, 968 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,600 Speaker 2: come in on Friday, leave on a Monday and Sunday 969 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:40,479 Speaker 2: night everybody else. 970 00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,319 Speaker 1: They ditched me around six pm. 971 00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,480 Speaker 2: And that's what I did. I went to the first casino, 972 00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,000 Speaker 2: I think it was like the Cosmopolitan, and I put 973 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,360 Speaker 2: one hundred dollars on there, and I started playing blackjack 974 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,719 Speaker 2: and I just played for a while, and then I 975 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,000 Speaker 2: would just cash in and I would walk to the 976 00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,439 Speaker 2: next one. And I hit every casino on the way 977 00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,399 Speaker 2: down there to the Wind. And I hit the Wind 978 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:04,520 Speaker 2: probably at like three am, and like there was like 979 00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,279 Speaker 2: two tables open, and like one of them is like 980 00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:07,840 Speaker 2: a regular one, and then like one of them is 981 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,320 Speaker 2: like one hundred dollars table, and I'm I'm up probably 982 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:12,080 Speaker 2: nine hundred. 983 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:12,799 Speaker 1: Bucks at that point. 984 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know, for a moment, I did consider 985 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:18,040 Speaker 2: that one hundred dollar table, and I decided against it 986 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:18,879 Speaker 2: and decided. 987 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,320 Speaker 1: To walk back. Can you imagine you'd played that table. 988 00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:24,560 Speaker 2: I think you'd walk for I mean, that could be 989 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:25,919 Speaker 2: the second pivot point in my life. 990 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you would have a totally different conversation. 991 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,000 Speaker 1: You really would have. I'd been talking to a professional 992 00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:36,839 Speaker 1: gabler or somebody who flies in their own jet, and 993 00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,440 Speaker 1: I'm asking you where are you going today? We're Oh, 994 00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,239 Speaker 1: you flew in today on your jet. Huh? Can I come? 995 00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,520 Speaker 1: Like that would have been the conversation, because that's the 996 00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:46,040 Speaker 1: kind of cool questions I would have asked. 997 00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,319 Speaker 2: But it's kind of the same kind of conversations that 998 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,040 Speaker 2: you would ask when I got my car. 999 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you didn't, I didn't have Where are you 1000 00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,359 Speaker 1: going today along? Yeah, you're gonna come pick me up 1001 00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:56,359 Speaker 1: bring my rubber chicken. 1002 00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,960 Speaker 2: But so I'm at the wind, I've got my I've got, 1003 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,879 Speaker 2: you know, probably a grand in my pocket, yep. And 1004 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,879 Speaker 2: it's three am, and I just remember, I mean it's 1005 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,160 Speaker 2: like a mile and a half walk from there down 1006 00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,480 Speaker 2: to the ex Caliber where we were staying down the 1007 00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:14,719 Speaker 2: strip at three am on Monday morning, so nobody's out 1008 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:16,520 Speaker 2: and I just remember I had the bottle on my 1009 00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:21,520 Speaker 2: right hand, like like just expecting to get jumped, and 1010 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,200 Speaker 2: I'm gonna defend myself with this last bottle. It's like 1011 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,279 Speaker 2: Tupac got shot there, like I I gotta I gotta 1012 00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:28,080 Speaker 2: tread carefully. 1013 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,879 Speaker 1: Are you telling me you're on the same level as 1014 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:36,839 Speaker 1: Tupac or you thought you were that nine at that point? Yes, 1015 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,960 Speaker 1: I love that you're on the same level as Tupac. 1016 00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:47,440 Speaker 2: But yeah, you know so, but that was it was 1017 00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,279 Speaker 2: great because I got back to the ex Caliber, I 1018 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,200 Speaker 2: sat down at the table there, I played some more, 1019 00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,120 Speaker 2: and eventually at six am, I went back up to 1020 00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,400 Speaker 2: the hotel room and everybody was relieved to see me 1021 00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,120 Speaker 2: because we needed to leave for our flight. 1022 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:04,040 Speaker 1: Did you even know that you had a flight? Oh? 1023 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,359 Speaker 1: I like coming up or you just do it? 1024 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,759 Speaker 2: But I mean, crap, I'd been I've been up and 1025 00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,400 Speaker 2: at them for twenty hours at that point. 1026 00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:12,800 Speaker 1: That's awesome. 1027 00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,520 Speaker 2: But and that's not even that's not even my worst, 1028 00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,520 Speaker 2: like Vegas walking story. 1029 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:20,760 Speaker 1: You have a worst one. 1030 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,480 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, we were. We flew out a different time. 1031 00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:28,520 Speaker 2: This was during the summer of eric and well actually 1032 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,479 Speaker 2: I guess this was right before because I was still 1033 00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,480 Speaker 2: I was still working with my current company or my 1034 00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:38,800 Speaker 2: previous company. Yeah, and so one of my customers was 1035 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,680 Speaker 2: there in Vegas and it just happened to be that 1036 00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,120 Speaker 2: same time, and so some people from my company were 1037 00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:45,799 Speaker 2: there and they were like, hey, if it works out, 1038 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:47,360 Speaker 2: you know, you'll come and join us and we'll have 1039 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:52,440 Speaker 2: some drinks. So I get the call, I get a text, 1040 00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:54,560 Speaker 2: you know, earlier in the night, probably like seven o'clock, 1041 00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,480 Speaker 2: and I'm at ex Caliburn. It's just like, hey, we're 1042 00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:58,799 Speaker 2: going to be at the palms, you know, come meet us, 1043 00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,840 Speaker 2: you know, for a round. And so we had gotten 1044 00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,160 Speaker 2: into Vegas at like noon that day, so I'd already 1045 00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:08,520 Speaker 2: been drinking for like seven hours, and we were having dinner, 1046 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:16,120 Speaker 2: and apparently I threw fifty dollars. Travis says, I threw 1047 00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:16,560 Speaker 2: it right in. 1048 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,600 Speaker 1: His face, like it bounced off his forehead. That sounds 1049 00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:19,719 Speaker 1: like it was insulting. 1050 00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,520 Speaker 2: But I threw fifty dollars at him, and I was 1051 00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,200 Speaker 2: just like, I got to go, And so I started 1052 00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:25,960 Speaker 2: going down the strip. 1053 00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 1: Wait, why did you throw fifty dollars? Well to pay 1054 00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:30,279 Speaker 1: for my dinner? Oh? 1055 00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,560 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, all right, So I leave and I'm going, 1056 00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:35,440 Speaker 2: you know, I go across the bridge. I'm in New York, 1057 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,239 Speaker 2: New York. Well, casinos are not built to be like 1058 00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:42,600 Speaker 2: easy to get out of. No, so of course I've 1059 00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,400 Speaker 2: been drinking and I get lost, and I wander all 1060 00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,840 Speaker 2: around the streets of New York inside the casino before 1061 00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,000 Speaker 2: I finally find my way out. And then all right, 1062 00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:51,960 Speaker 2: now I've got my north. I'm out on the sidewalk. 1063 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:53,200 Speaker 2: I can figure out where I'm going. 1064 00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:54,959 Speaker 1: Did you get a slice at least? While you're running 1065 00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:55,520 Speaker 1: around New York? 1066 00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:59,719 Speaker 2: I just eating, try to keep up with the store, right, 1067 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,480 Speaker 2: So I keep walking down. I keep walking down. You know, 1068 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,360 Speaker 2: I'm just I'm a man on a mission, you know, 1069 00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,440 Speaker 2: just walking fast, like getting getting my my exercise in 1070 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,480 Speaker 2: pretty much. And I get down to like the fountains 1071 00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,359 Speaker 2: at Blagio and I see this guy and he's got 1072 00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,960 Speaker 2: this backpack and it's full of beer. And I realized, like, 1073 00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,920 Speaker 2: this guy's selling the beer like out of his backpack. 1074 00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,920 Speaker 2: So of course, like I stop and I buy two 1075 00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,480 Speaker 2: beers from him, because why. 1076 00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,040 Speaker 1: Not you did that just because you saw a guy 1077 00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:29,680 Speaker 1: with a backpack. 1078 00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:33,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well it's a very good situation, he asked him. 1079 00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:34,360 Speaker 2: I was just like, hey, how do you get to 1080 00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,160 Speaker 2: the Palms? And he's just like, well, you go across 1081 00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,080 Speaker 2: the street hearing there's a shuttle. 1082 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:40,920 Speaker 1: And so I'm like, okay, So I keep going. It's 1083 00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:41,440 Speaker 1: a shuttle. 1084 00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:43,680 Speaker 2: I get to like an intersect. Well the Poems is 1085 00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:45,799 Speaker 2: on like the other side of the interstate from like 1086 00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,600 Speaker 2: the strip, but I'm looking to my left and I'm 1087 00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:52,680 Speaker 2: like I can see it, like I could walk over there, 1088 00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:53,480 Speaker 2: like this is no big deal. 1089 00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:55,319 Speaker 1: I need a shuttle. Yeah, So I. 1090 00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:59,600 Speaker 2: Turned left, away from all the lights, away from all 1091 00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:03,399 Speaker 2: the stuff. Well, I get up probably like a half 1092 00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,280 Speaker 2: a block down, and it starts into a big ramp, 1093 00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,520 Speaker 2: like a big pedestrian bridge that goes up over the 1094 00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:14,440 Speaker 2: interesting and there are like homeless people. There are people 1095 00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:18,400 Speaker 2: everywhere on this like bridge. Now keep in mind that 1096 00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,920 Speaker 2: I've been in Vegas for eight hours. I'm intoxicated, I'm 1097 00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:25,000 Speaker 2: wearing flip flops and cargo shorts. I probably got eight 1098 00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:26,840 Speaker 2: hundred dollars of cash in my pocket. 1099 00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:28,520 Speaker 1: And you don't have a glass bottle of the time, 1100 00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:30,720 Speaker 1: I don't have a bottle to protect myself. 1101 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:34,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm carrying two bud lights in. 1102 00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:37,160 Speaker 1: My hands, which back then wasn't controversial. 1103 00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,839 Speaker 2: Like if there was ever anybody to mug like this 1104 00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:41,560 Speaker 2: was the silver platter, it'd be you. 1105 00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:42,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1106 00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:43,880 Speaker 2: Like I ain't even started in on one of those beers. 1107 00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:45,840 Speaker 2: Like one of those beers was still you know fresh. 1108 00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,360 Speaker 1: Oh, that would have been disaster had you been jumped 1109 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:49,640 Speaker 1: and didn't even get to have your beer. 1110 00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,520 Speaker 2: But so I'm just I'm walking like right in the 1111 00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,200 Speaker 2: middle of the aisle, just like not make an eye contact, 1112 00:52:55,239 --> 00:53:00,560 Speaker 2: just you know, just posture completely straight. I send I 1113 00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,360 Speaker 2: sent Travis a text because he was planning on like 1114 00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,560 Speaker 2: catching up, like and I just I sent him a 1115 00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,359 Speaker 2: text and he always talks about it because the text said, 1116 00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,320 Speaker 2: knit safe, do not follow. 1117 00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:20,160 Speaker 1: Have you ever seen somebody get mugged? Like personally? Like yes, 1118 00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,279 Speaker 1: like obviously it happens. We know it happened. I mean 1119 00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,759 Speaker 1: every Batman movie, right, but in person? Have you ever 1120 00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:29,920 Speaker 1: seen it? Did you have reason to believe that this 1121 00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,120 Speaker 1: was going to happen to you? No? No, No, it 1122 00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:36,520 Speaker 1: was just very scary because it was very dark. That's awesome. 1123 00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:40,440 Speaker 2: But yeah, I just remember getting to the palms safely, safely, 1124 00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:44,200 Speaker 2: and I told my boss who was there at the time. 1125 00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:49,040 Speaker 1: I told him about it, and we allowed to curse 1126 00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,719 Speaker 1: on the show. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. He called me 1127 00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:55,040 Speaker 1: a fucking idiot. Yeah, and then reminded me that I 1128 00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:59,160 Speaker 1: should have just got a cap. Yeah, you should have. 1129 00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:03,880 Speaker 1: There's everywhere Vegas. Yeah. Yeah, you could have just grabbed 1130 00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:05,600 Speaker 1: one of those cards, you know, people handing out the 1131 00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,440 Speaker 1: cards on the street. You could have just grabbed. And 1132 00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,480 Speaker 1: they have free limos. You could have just hopped in a. 1133 00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,840 Speaker 2: Limo and got our dad to stop at the Yeah, 1134 00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:14,760 Speaker 2: and then a minute or two right. 1135 00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:18,360 Speaker 1: And then been like all right, take me to the wind. Yeah, 1136 00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:19,040 Speaker 1: that's awesome. 1137 00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:21,240 Speaker 2: The things we learned as we get older. 1138 00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,400 Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing like when you're younger in your 1139 00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:25,600 Speaker 1: first time and you know, I'm sure people go to 1140 00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,160 Speaker 1: Chicago right now and think, well, I'm in the windy city. 1141 00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,239 Speaker 1: This is fun, let's go shopping, let's go sight see, 1142 00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,480 Speaker 1: and then they get mugged. You know, they weren't thinking 1143 00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:34,960 Speaker 1: like you, Like they think they're safe because they're in Chicago. 1144 00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:39,759 Speaker 1: It's like the most dangerous place in America right now. Yeah, 1145 00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:44,440 Speaker 1: for people people in Omaha, for people in Omha. Yeah, 1146 00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:48,600 Speaker 1: it's a good point. That's funny. Oh, you know the 1147 00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:52,040 Speaker 1: summer of Eric what a good time. So you're a 1148 00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:56,839 Speaker 1: history buff. You just saw the Napoleon movie. I know 1149 00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:00,719 Speaker 1: in a previous episode we had say on he kind 1150 00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:02,239 Speaker 1: of he saw the movie as well. He kind of 1151 00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:05,520 Speaker 1: gave us a few things you're not saying. So what'd 1152 00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,840 Speaker 1: you think of the movie? It? Okay? As a Napoleon 1153 00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,160 Speaker 1: are you an expert? Would you callll yourself an expert? 1154 00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,279 Speaker 1: Could you hang with some Napoleon experts? Oh? 1155 00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:17,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. I've read the I've read 1156 00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:20,759 Speaker 2: the biography, which one it's called Napoleon. 1157 00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:25,480 Speaker 1: Oh did he write it? No? No, no, did you 1158 00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:27,320 Speaker 1: write anything? Uh? 1159 00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,640 Speaker 2: He was a prolific letter writer. 1160 00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:32,520 Speaker 1: Oh was he really? Yeah? The book that has those 1161 00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:33,440 Speaker 1: letters published. 1162 00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,520 Speaker 2: So actually a Napoleon movie that was some of the 1163 00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:39,520 Speaker 2: source material was the letters that him and Josephine had 1164 00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:41,240 Speaker 2: wroteen had written back and forth. 1165 00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:46,080 Speaker 1: So was the movie based off of those letters or 1166 00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,320 Speaker 1: based off a book that talked about the letters? 1167 00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:51,400 Speaker 2: Based off the book that talked about the letters? O? Uh, 1168 00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:55,560 Speaker 2: the I think the only real complain I've got about 1169 00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:58,560 Speaker 2: the movie would be that that was the focus of 1170 00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:00,800 Speaker 2: the movie. But then it was also like greatest hits 1171 00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:05,959 Speaker 2: of Napoleon's career. But so it had those two things 1172 00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:07,759 Speaker 2: on there, but they never really tie him together. They 1173 00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,319 Speaker 2: never give each one of them individually enough room to 1174 00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:14,760 Speaker 2: be like, oh. 1175 00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:16,360 Speaker 1: Gotcha, what about Waking in Phoenix? Was he good? He was? 1176 00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:19,960 Speaker 2: But the strange thing is that Napoleon is famous for 1177 00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:22,560 Speaker 2: everything he did when he was young, Like he was 1178 00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:24,560 Speaker 2: emperor by the time he was like thirty two. 1179 00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:26,840 Speaker 1: And this took place when he was older. The movie, 1180 00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:30,160 Speaker 1: the movie gets his first battle in Toulon. 1181 00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,279 Speaker 2: He's twenty four at the time. But they show that 1182 00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:36,400 Speaker 2: in the movie with Phoenix, and you're like, okay, am 1183 00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:38,480 Speaker 2: I supposed to think that Napoleon was like old and 1184 00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:40,960 Speaker 2: just waiting for his opportunity to do something right. 1185 00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:43,359 Speaker 1: But so he's portraying a you know, a twenty four 1186 00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:45,319 Speaker 1: year old, because how old was he when he died. 1187 00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:47,799 Speaker 1: He couldn't have been that old. Fifty two. Yeah, so, 1188 00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:53,400 Speaker 1: and Phoenix himself is probably that age year older. Yeah, yeah, no, 1189 00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:56,879 Speaker 1: it looks ten years older than that, you know, and. 1190 00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:58,960 Speaker 2: I mean the classic kind of Hollywood of just you know, 1191 00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,520 Speaker 2: the actress that played Josephine I think was like fifteen 1192 00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:02,240 Speaker 2: years younger. 1193 00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:06,120 Speaker 1: Oh okay, that sounds about right. I mean that's what Honestly, 1194 00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,760 Speaker 1: she probably could have been fifteen back then. Napoleon probably 1195 00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,719 Speaker 1: hooked up with a fifteen year old. I'm sure he 1196 00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:17,240 Speaker 1: did as a twenty four year old. You know this, 1197 00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:19,880 Speaker 1: this has really gotten off track. I'm spitballing here, but 1198 00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,400 Speaker 1: I think Napoleon did do that. You know. 1199 00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,480 Speaker 2: The thing that's interesting about Josephine kind of one of 1200 00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,360 Speaker 2: those fun little factoids. 1201 00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:30,640 Speaker 1: Is she was missing her teeth. Yep. I think she 1202 00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,400 Speaker 1: grew up on a sugar plantation in the Caribbean, and 1203 00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:37,880 Speaker 1: she loved her sugar and did not like to brush. Interesting, 1204 00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:42,680 Speaker 1: so I always floss. That's why Napoleon loved her. Well, 1205 00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:47,000 Speaker 1: she teeth, he loved them gums. He I bet she 1206 00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:53,800 Speaker 1: was fifteen gumming, and Napoleon was like, come see the king. Jeez. 1207 00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:58,400 Speaker 2: Well, Josephine was actually older than Napoleon. Oh really because 1208 00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,400 Speaker 2: she was married previously. Oh okay, and she had three 1209 00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:05,520 Speaker 2: kids and they got married and she was famous for 1210 00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:07,880 Speaker 2: having an affairs. He was famous for having affairs. 1211 00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:09,760 Speaker 1: So it just worked out for them both. But yeah, 1212 00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:10,520 Speaker 1: she never had. 1213 00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:14,520 Speaker 2: Never produced an air for him, so Napoleon set her aside, 1214 00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:17,680 Speaker 2: got a younger wife who probably had a son for him. 1215 00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:19,880 Speaker 1: She was fifteen, had a child at. 1216 00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:23,160 Speaker 4: Say actually that that probably that probably checks out see 1217 00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:26,720 Speaker 4: see but that's always another one of those tidbits is 1218 00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:31,400 Speaker 4: Napoleon's bloodline did not exist past his son and then 1219 00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:34,320 Speaker 4: some illegitimate kids. 1220 00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:37,720 Speaker 1: That he had. Interesting did they touch this in the movie. No, 1221 00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,479 Speaker 1: but well the fact that he had a son, yes, 1222 00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:42,800 Speaker 1: but will there be a sequel? All they touch this? 1223 00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:48,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, but Josephine. Her bloodline is found in over twenty 1224 00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,320 Speaker 2: five percent of European royal families. 1225 00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:52,920 Speaker 1: Today because she got around. 1226 00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:57,160 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, because Napoleon basically put her kids like, you know, 1227 00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,320 Speaker 2: the thrones of other countries as he conquered them. 1228 00:58:59,440 --> 00:58:59,880 Speaker 1: Wow. 1229 00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:03,600 Speaker 2: So one of those great ironies that he divorced her 1230 00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:08,120 Speaker 2: to continue his bloodline and hers was much more successful 1231 00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:08,400 Speaker 2: than his. 1232 00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:11,320 Speaker 1: Well that's impressive. Napoleon was smart. 1233 00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:14,360 Speaker 2: Gosh, look at some of this in depth stuff, like 1234 00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:16,920 Speaker 2: we haven't even touched on, you know, any of the 1235 00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:18,880 Speaker 2: great battle victories. We're just talking. 1236 00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:22,960 Speaker 1: About smart chicks with no teeth, yep. But because that's 1237 00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,280 Speaker 1: really that's what he cared about, So that's what we 1238 00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:29,200 Speaker 1: should talk about. Will there be a sequel? Will we 1239 00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:32,480 Speaker 1: get more Napoleon? You think? Now? I'm interested in like 1240 00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:36,560 Speaker 1: because you know, Bamman Begins was good, but then Dark 1241 00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:40,160 Speaker 1: Knight was legendary, so I'm kind of waiting for that one. 1242 00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:43,480 Speaker 2: What my dream would be like of is if they 1243 00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,160 Speaker 2: if they did a Napoleon show similar to The Crown. 1244 00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:47,080 Speaker 1: Now I haven't seen. 1245 00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:49,880 Speaker 2: The Crown, but from what I understand is they it's 1246 00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:53,080 Speaker 2: basically like six seasons going through Queen Elizabeth's life and 1247 00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:55,560 Speaker 2: they have different actresses cast at different. 1248 00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:57,880 Speaker 1: Ages, and they kind of go through the whole history. 1249 00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:00,840 Speaker 1: Can you do that? Can you hope for something to 1250 01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:04,960 Speaker 1: be like something that you've never seen? Yes? Yes, okay, 1251 01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:09,400 Speaker 1: I think I'm entitled. I think that's silly. With that 1252 01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:11,120 Speaker 1: in mind, I think when you. 1253 01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:13,400 Speaker 2: Your whole entire first show was about a book you 1254 01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:14,120 Speaker 2: never read. 1255 01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:17,120 Speaker 1: You know, I don't need your bullshit. I don't need 1256 01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:20,360 Speaker 1: you calling me out on my own show about the book, 1257 01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:24,120 Speaker 1: because really I read the cover and I flipped through 1258 01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:26,760 Speaker 1: it and I read the synopsis and I kind of 1259 01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:28,720 Speaker 1: get what she's talking about. Then you can find humor 1260 01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:29,200 Speaker 1: or anything. 1261 01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:31,000 Speaker 2: And I just want to say for the record that 1262 01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,000 Speaker 2: I don't know this because I listened to the first 1263 01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:36,000 Speaker 2: alf for first episode. Yea, I know it because Johnny 1264 01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:37,000 Speaker 2: filled me in before the show. 1265 01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:41,040 Speaker 1: Johnny, it's his fault, honestly, and why I didn't read 1266 01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:43,960 Speaker 1: the book because I was telling him about it and 1267 01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:46,000 Speaker 1: he goes, yeah, yeah, you're right, that's exactly what the book. 1268 01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:49,680 Speaker 1: I read the book, that's what it's about. Yeah, he 1269 01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:51,160 Speaker 1: was cliff notes for that one. I was like, oh good, 1270 01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:54,000 Speaker 1: I don't need to read this because the more I 1271 01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:59,440 Speaker 1: learned about kat temp more I disliked her. What are 1272 01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,520 Speaker 1: you going me to do? Not reading the damn book? 1273 01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:04,480 Speaker 1: Plus I didn't buy the book. I was just standing 1274 01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:06,880 Speaker 1: in Barnes and Noble like looking at it on the table. 1275 01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:09,120 Speaker 2: Would I have learned this by listening to the episode? 1276 01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:12,160 Speaker 1: No, I didn't address anything. Okay, this is all new information. 1277 01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:17,000 Speaker 2: Well, well you're really rewarding those repeat listeners. 1278 01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:21,000 Speaker 1: Yep, yep. This is what they call it callback in 1279 01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:25,960 Speaker 1: the business. That's awesome. Well, you've spent some time in 1280 01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:30,920 Speaker 1: you know, Napoleon's land of Europe. You know, have you 1281 01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:34,960 Speaker 1: been to his grave? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, at Invalids? Did 1282 01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:37,520 Speaker 1: you peet on it? No? Can you put somebody if 1283 01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:40,360 Speaker 1: they wanted to? No? Okay? Uh. 1284 01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:43,000 Speaker 2: You know one of the when I was in France 1285 01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:46,200 Speaker 2: this last fall, they were actually hosting the Rugby World Cup, 1286 01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:48,680 Speaker 2: and you know, we always talk. 1287 01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:51,640 Speaker 1: About kind of you know, cops and you know that 1288 01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:53,600 Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Here for the record, we don't always 1289 01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:55,080 Speaker 1: talk about cops just. 1290 01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:59,560 Speaker 2: Well sometimes we do. But you know it's like whenever 1291 01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:01,840 Speaker 2: you see like police presence here, you know, just like 1292 01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:04,960 Speaker 2: normal cops just hanging out, Like when you saw police 1293 01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:06,600 Speaker 2: presence over there during the rugby thing. 1294 01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:07,320 Speaker 1: I mean it's the. 1295 01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:10,200 Speaker 2: Guys with the rifles like strapped across their chest like 1296 01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:13,360 Speaker 2: swat teams. Yeah, like they're not screwing around type of stuff. 1297 01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:16,080 Speaker 1: So no, I was Was it because the movie was 1298 01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:17,480 Speaker 1: coming out? No? 1299 01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:21,640 Speaker 2: No, just but yes, I was not exposing myself in 1300 01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:22,640 Speaker 2: the tomb. 1301 01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,760 Speaker 1: Is he celebrated over there? Oh yeah, yeah, they love them. 1302 01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:27,000 Speaker 2: They still own Corsica. 1303 01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:30,040 Speaker 1: Oh really yeah, you know. 1304 01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:32,920 Speaker 2: The rest of it. Italy all, you know, formed Italy 1305 01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:36,200 Speaker 2: after he died, but the French never gave up Corsica. 1306 01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:37,479 Speaker 1: When's that gonna happen? 1307 01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:42,760 Speaker 2: Some some some Corsicans want to unify with Italy. 1308 01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:45,880 Speaker 1: So a little point is somebody gonna have the balls 1309 01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:46,640 Speaker 1: to take it back. 1310 01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:52,520 Speaker 2: I mean one of the best, all right. So Napoleon 1311 01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:56,280 Speaker 2: was born at Corsica. Corsica right before he was born 1312 01:02:56,400 --> 01:03:00,720 Speaker 2: was owned by a Italian country. We, of course, a 1313 01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:04,760 Speaker 2: rebelled against that country. So the country was like, hey, 1314 01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,600 Speaker 2: France will sell you this island, and the rebels come 1315 01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:11,160 Speaker 2: for free, and so France bought it, set their army over, 1316 01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:13,360 Speaker 2: easily crushed them, and then it was France. 1317 01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:16,520 Speaker 1: That's like a classic bad fantasy football trade. 1318 01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:19,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, except France got Napoley. 1319 01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:23,840 Speaker 1: Except they got Napoleon. Yeah. Wow, that owner won the 1320 01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:25,360 Speaker 1: championship that year. Yeah. 1321 01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:27,400 Speaker 2: I mean that's like picking up like a star player 1322 01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:28,840 Speaker 2: in the Rule five draft or something. 1323 01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:33,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow. So they need an Italian with vengeance in 1324 01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:38,280 Speaker 1: their heart to lead a pack of people to go 1325 01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:40,120 Speaker 1: take it back. I think it's going to happen someday. 1326 01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:42,520 Speaker 2: You know so much about like, because that's exactly how 1327 01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:47,360 Speaker 2: they refer to armies, A pack of people, back of people. 1328 01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:49,480 Speaker 1: I'm going off. 1329 01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:51,760 Speaker 2: I think that's what when we stormed the beaches of 1330 01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,800 Speaker 2: Normandy those boats, it was like, what can we fit 1331 01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:55,520 Speaker 2: in one of these boats? 1332 01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:57,680 Speaker 1: We can fit a pack of people with a pack 1333 01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:04,400 Speaker 1: of people? Well, how many is in a pack? Twelve? Nah? 1334 01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:06,560 Speaker 2: Nah nah, you can fit more on a pack. 1335 01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:09,520 Speaker 1: You can fit fifteen in a stick of gum. 1336 01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:13,200 Speaker 2: Well yeah, so the pack of people comes in twelves, 1337 01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:15,760 Speaker 2: but the boats hold twenty. So you always have some 1338 01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:16,840 Speaker 2: leftover from your pack. 1339 01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:19,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, you always have looted over. Yeah, just hopefully don't 1340 01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:22,760 Speaker 1: get any doubles pack of people. Yeah, that's that is 1341 01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:25,440 Speaker 1: technical term. Ye see you learned something here today too. 1342 01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,120 Speaker 2: But you know The one part I did want to 1343 01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:30,120 Speaker 2: share in my Europe trip was when we were in 1344 01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:33,920 Speaker 2: Munich for Octoberfest. So you don't got to see a 1345 01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:35,400 Speaker 2: lot of people, got to drink with a lot of people. 1346 01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:36,960 Speaker 1: Wait, do you plan it so that you go there 1347 01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:39,680 Speaker 1: during Octoberfest or is it just aw you'd happen to 1348 01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:40,960 Speaker 1: be there, just happened to be there. 1349 01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:43,240 Speaker 2: So the first time we were in Berlin for one 1350 01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:46,240 Speaker 2: of my friends was running in a marathon and so 1351 01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:48,040 Speaker 2: we ended up going up there. This time we did 1352 01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:53,040 Speaker 2: plan to go during Octoberfest. Okay, but it's a great atmosphere. 1353 01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:53,240 Speaker 1: You know. 1354 01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:55,600 Speaker 2: You come into these big tents they call them tents, 1355 01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:59,160 Speaker 2: but it's more like a wooden structure with a canvas 1356 01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:00,360 Speaker 2: like sealing. 1357 01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:03,000 Speaker 1: Packs of packs of people everywhere. 1358 01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:04,960 Speaker 2: But the strange thing is is that it's like, all right, 1359 01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:06,480 Speaker 2: well you think about it, it's just like, well, I 1360 01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:09,840 Speaker 2: mean we drink here for octoberfestor we do that, but 1361 01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:13,080 Speaker 2: like there's no way to describe just the festival energy 1362 01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:15,120 Speaker 2: of that of if you're walking into that tent, you're 1363 01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:18,000 Speaker 2: intending to drink two or three liters of beer, like 1364 01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:20,919 Speaker 2: you're not just stopping by for a quick pint. After 1365 01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,320 Speaker 2: work or you know, hey, I'll just check out the 1366 01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:24,120 Speaker 2: vibe and you. 1367 01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:24,720 Speaker 1: Know, get out of here. 1368 01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:28,120 Speaker 2: No, you're sitting down drink. So a lot of people, 1369 01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:31,760 Speaker 2: you know, we had five in our group, so you know, 1370 01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:33,760 Speaker 2: you can fit about eight comfortably at one of these tables. 1371 01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:35,600 Speaker 2: So people just be coming and sitting down at our 1372 01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:36,720 Speaker 2: table and would chat. 1373 01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:38,640 Speaker 1: So it's like we've met, you. 1374 01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:43,560 Speaker 2: Know, people from Iran and from Germany and Italians, Canadians, 1375 01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:45,720 Speaker 2: you know, a couple of Americans that came in there. 1376 01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:48,760 Speaker 2: But at one point there was this commotion at the 1377 01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:51,800 Speaker 2: table next to us, and all these Germans started all 1378 01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:54,680 Speaker 2: like turning around and like taking pictures and like pointing 1379 01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:57,200 Speaker 2: at me, and it's just like what, like what is 1380 01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:57,720 Speaker 2: going on? 1381 01:05:57,880 --> 01:05:58,800 Speaker 1: They thought you were Jewish? 1382 01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:07,720 Speaker 2: Oh sorry, how are you touching that? So you know, 1383 01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:09,000 Speaker 2: we get to the bottom of it. 1384 01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:11,240 Speaker 1: Weren't just like oh, you know, like what is it? 1385 01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:13,400 Speaker 2: And they were just like they were like, you look 1386 01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:18,160 Speaker 2: exactly like one of the German soccer coaches. Wow, they 1387 01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:20,040 Speaker 2: thought maybe you were. And so yeah, they were just 1388 01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:21,840 Speaker 2: like you are the spitting image of it. And I'm 1389 01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:23,920 Speaker 2: just like no, I'm not. And they were like, yes, 1390 01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:27,240 Speaker 2: yes you are. You are definitely that, and I'm just like, 1391 01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:29,440 Speaker 2: I'm an American and like one of them, just like, yeah. 1392 01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:32,280 Speaker 1: We know, we understand. Yeah, we've watched you long enough, 1393 01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:32,960 Speaker 1: you're in America. 1394 01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:34,440 Speaker 2: But yeah, then I had to go and take and 1395 01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:36,600 Speaker 2: they wanted to take selfies and they wanted to take pictures. 1396 01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:39,520 Speaker 1: So there's people with like framed photos of you in 1397 01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:43,200 Speaker 1: Germany right now thinking that it's you and their favorite 1398 01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:43,800 Speaker 1: head coach. 1399 01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:45,800 Speaker 2: And at that point, I mean we were already like 1400 01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:49,000 Speaker 2: four beers in Yeah, so out of our group for 1401 01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:50,600 Speaker 2: the entire rest of the trip, we were trying to 1402 01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:52,200 Speaker 2: find a. 1403 01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:54,840 Speaker 1: Picture of this German coach to just confirm it. 1404 01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:58,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, or were they just completely pulling the rug over 1405 01:06:58,960 --> 01:06:59,280 Speaker 2: our head? 1406 01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:01,440 Speaker 1: Did you like go all in on the bit and 1407 01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:05,280 Speaker 1: just randomly sing sweet Caroline? Well, so the best part 1408 01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:08,720 Speaker 1: about it was like we had read we had read 1409 01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:11,600 Speaker 1: If I laugh at my own jokes, is it better 1410 01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:12,200 Speaker 1: or worse? 1411 01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:14,760 Speaker 2: What I don't like about. 1412 01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:16,280 Speaker 1: Is when you laugh at your own jokes, you throw 1413 01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:17,520 Speaker 1: off my time, my bad. 1414 01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:19,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then the people at home think that this 1415 01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:19,920 Speaker 2: is my fault. 1416 01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:20,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1417 01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:24,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, So we were reading, you know, about Octoberfest. 1418 01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:26,240 Speaker 1: So some of the group had not been there before. 1419 01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:28,080 Speaker 2: And one of the things we discovered was there's a 1420 01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:34,080 Speaker 2: thing called Octoberfest cocaine, which is basically just it's like 1421 01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:39,360 Speaker 2: tobacco or nicotine sugar. And I think there's like one 1422 01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:42,040 Speaker 2: other additive in there, and it was I was just 1423 01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:44,600 Speaker 2: like they were like, there's nothing in there, Like, that's 1424 01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:47,959 Speaker 2: not actual cocaine. It's not actual like drugs of any sort. Yeah, 1425 01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:49,760 Speaker 2: and I guess they looked they tried to ban it 1426 01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:52,360 Speaker 2: years ago, but they just couldn't. 1427 01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:53,560 Speaker 1: So what do they do with it? 1428 01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:54,400 Speaker 2: They snort it? 1429 01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:55,800 Speaker 1: Oh okay, like cocaine. 1430 01:07:55,800 --> 01:08:01,000 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, So the Germans offered me octo professed cocaine. 1431 01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:01,720 Speaker 1: Wow. 1432 01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:03,920 Speaker 2: So they gave me a little bump right on the 1433 01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:07,320 Speaker 2: you know for coach, and it was it was red, 1434 01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:10,720 Speaker 2: like bright red and uh, you know to you know, 1435 01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:14,240 Speaker 2: storted it because of the tobacco. I don't know, maybe 1436 01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:15,840 Speaker 2: that's what the other additive in there is, just the 1437 01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:18,840 Speaker 2: food coloring. But it's just like the sugar that's in it, 1438 01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:21,120 Speaker 2: and that it gives you like a jolt. It's just 1439 01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:23,559 Speaker 2: like like a five hour energy kind of Yeah. It 1440 01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:26,760 Speaker 2: has meant ball in it too, Oh okay. Uh so yeah, 1441 01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:28,720 Speaker 2: it gives you that, but then for the next like 1442 01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:30,599 Speaker 2: three days, when I blew my nose, it would come 1443 01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:31,040 Speaker 2: out red. 1444 01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:31,879 Speaker 1: That's awesome. 1445 01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:36,120 Speaker 2: So and it wasn't It wasn't blood, no, no, no, 1446 01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:38,160 Speaker 2: it was october fesst cocaine. 1447 01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:41,320 Speaker 1: And they make that or what's is it available in 1448 01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:42,320 Speaker 1: gas stations. 1449 01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:43,760 Speaker 2: Or not that I saw? 1450 01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:48,960 Speaker 1: Not that I saw. That's funny. That's interesting because you 1451 01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:50,120 Speaker 1: don't know how to play soccer. 1452 01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:56,240 Speaker 2: You're very tall, so I mean soccer. That had to 1453 01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:58,160 Speaker 2: have been a giveaway over there anyway. 1454 01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:01,640 Speaker 1: It's not even soccer over there. Well, that's funny. What 1455 01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:03,479 Speaker 1: a trip. That's the thing. I guess if I was 1456 01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:06,560 Speaker 1: going to Europe, it'd be cool to go around Octoberfest 1457 01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:09,040 Speaker 1: experience the festival portion of it, because it would be 1458 01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:10,920 Speaker 1: neat to you know, because it's a big deal here. 1459 01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:14,519 Speaker 1: But it's not. Yeah like people, Oh, let's go on 1460 01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:17,960 Speaker 1: Saturday to the beer tant like that's what it is here. 1461 01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:22,519 Speaker 1: But it's like life. But yeah, I mean that's what 1462 01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:23,400 Speaker 1: it seems like anyway. 1463 01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:25,960 Speaker 2: Then again, it's just I mean it's structured around everybody's 1464 01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:26,920 Speaker 2: going there to have a good time. 1465 01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:32,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, so good vibes only that's what I'm all about 1466 01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:37,520 Speaker 1: Holy Cow. We are only halfway through our great conversation 1467 01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:40,160 Speaker 1: with my good friend Eric Larson. More to come. We've 1468 01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:42,280 Speaker 1: got a part two that is coming, so make sure 1469 01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:46,200 Speaker 1: you follow, you subscribe, and you have notifications on part 1470 01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:50,280 Speaker 1: two coming very very soon, just for you. We're going 1471 01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:53,040 Speaker 1: to play a very fun game called instant Debates, brand 1472 01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:55,000 Speaker 1: new to Laugh with Me, and we're going to put 1473 01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:58,800 Speaker 1: Hairt's history knowledge and current event knowledge to the test 1474 01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:02,840 Speaker 1: and see just how he can take things. But it's 1475 01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:06,360 Speaker 1: gonna be a good time, so make sure to subscribe. Guys, 1476 01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:08,439 Speaker 1: this is We've got a lot of fun guests, a 1477 01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:11,720 Speaker 1: lot of fun episodes along the way, and lots of 1478 01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:15,760 Speaker 1: laughs that have in twenty and twenty four. This has 1479 01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:18,559 Speaker 1: been Laughed with Me Part two with Eric Larson coming 1480 01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:18,680 Speaker 1: to