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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody. Tuesday edition of The Clay Travis en Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show kicks off right now, coming to you life

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Speaker 1: from Washington, d c our Nation's capital aka the Swamp,

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Speaker 1: although it is lovely this time of the year, not

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Speaker 1: very swampy. Clay is on vacation today. He'll be back

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Speaker 1: with us Thursday. Is that was Thursday? Right, yes, Thursday,

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Speaker 1: So he is working on his tan by the Gulf

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Speaker 1: of America. We are diving into the news of the day,

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Speaker 1: my friends, and there is a lot of it. More

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Speaker 1: on the showdown between the Trump administration and various Democrat

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Speaker 1: run cities, notably Chicago and Portland. But the mayor of

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Speaker 1: Chicago has done something pretty remarkable. He thinks that he

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Speaker 1: can create federal government enforcement free zones. And we shall

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Speaker 1: discuss what that looks like. We shall have a conversation

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Speaker 1: about how absurd the Democrat position on all of this

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Speaker 1: is getting. As a CNN anchor decides to throw down

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Speaker 1: with Stephen Miller, it does not go well. Spoiler alert

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Speaker 1: for the CNN anchor, Stephen Miller having none of it.

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Speaker 1: President Trump some comments yesterday from the oval that I

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Speaker 1: wanted to get to today. The government shut down continues.

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Speaker 1: I'm here in our nation's capital and I don't know,

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Speaker 1: feels fine, doesn't feel very shut down, like feels okay.

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Speaker 1: Things are kind of just doing what they do. So

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Speaker 1: there's that. We'll discuss the latest with it. And also

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Speaker 1: it is, of course the two year anniversary of the

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Speaker 1: October seventh terrorist attack by Hamas on Israel. Our friend

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Speaker 1: and podcast host Carol Markowitz will be with us in

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Speaker 1: the third hour to discuss some reflections two years on,

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Speaker 1: as the Trump administration is trying to bring a cease

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Speaker 1: fire and some kind of peace deal into effect in

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Speaker 1: that region. Has been two years of conflict. But I

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Speaker 1: wanted to dive in first to this situation, and it

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Speaker 1: is more of the deep state weaponization that we have

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Speaker 1: known about but continue to find new things out. This

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Speaker 1: is now the surveillance of United States Republican senators the

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Speaker 1: FBI well in this case actually came out from Senate

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Speaker 1: Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grastly. He released this publicly. But

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Speaker 1: the FBI, led by Director Patel and Deputy Director at Bongino,

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Speaker 1: is providing transparency as promised about what kind of weaponization

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Speaker 1: has occurred at the Federal Bureau of investigation and notably

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Speaker 1: on this Arctic Frost operation that they were running. This

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Speaker 1: is about election j six, twenty twenty stuff, and they

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Speaker 1: clearly were on a hunt for individuals that were political

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Speaker 1: targets instead of actual criminals. That's a problem. I think

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump summed it up well with this. This was

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Speaker 1: on Truth's social Durie. Jack Smith caught with his hand

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Speaker 1: in the cookie jar, a real sleeve bag. Indeed, the

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Speaker 1: President of the United States pulling no punches and letting

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Speaker 1: it be known how he feels about the unduly anointed

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Speaker 1: prosecutor Jack Smith in this whole situation. But we've got

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Speaker 1: this from the FBI. We have an electronic communications tally

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Speaker 1: here as in surveillance of the cell phones of toll

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Speaker 1: analysis records. You've got Mike Kelly, Lindsey Graham, I am

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Speaker 1: Bill Haggarty, Josh Holly, Dan Sullivan, Tommy Tuberville, Ron Johnson

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Speaker 1: he'll be with us tomorrow, Senator Johnson, uh and Cynthia Loomis,

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Speaker 1: Marcia Blackburn, these are the names on this release. Well,

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Speaker 1: this is not just one of those times where we're

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Speaker 1: finding something out. There's already been action taken the FBI,

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Speaker 1: and this is from Director Patel has terminated some employees

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Speaker 1: that were involved in this. When the Republicans had their

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Speaker 1: private communications, their private phone calls tracked. Director Patel put

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Speaker 1: this out. We are cleaning up a diseased temple three

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Speaker 1: decades in the making, identifying the rot, removing those who

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Speaker 1: weaponize law enforcement for political purposes and those who do

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Speaker 1: not meet the standards of this mission, while restoring integrity

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Speaker 1: to the FBI. I promised reform and I intend to

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Speaker 1: deliver it. So that was in a statement to Fox News.

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Speaker 1: So that is where we are right now.

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 1: More information to add onto the pile about weaponization of

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Speaker 1: government that has happened. But we had a G. Pam

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Speaker 1: Bondi testifying before the Senate Judiciary Committee on this issue.

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Speaker 1: I wanted you to hear it from the Attorney General herself.

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Speaker 1: This is cut two hit it.

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Speaker 3: When I was confirmed as an eighty seventh Attorney General

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Speaker 3: of the United States, I took office with two mangals

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Speaker 3: to end the weaponization of justice and return the department

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Speaker 3: to its core mission of fighting violent crime. As to

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Speaker 3: ending the weaponization of justice, we learned that former FBI

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Speaker 3: secretly investigated you and your colleagues why they wanted to

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Speaker 3: take President Trump off the playing field. They were playing

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Speaker 3: politics with law enforcement powers and will go down as

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Speaker 3: a historic betrayal of public trust. This is the kind

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Speaker 3: of conduct that shatters the American people's faith in our

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Speaker 3: law enforcement system. We will work to earn, not back,

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Speaker 3: every single day.

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Speaker 1: It's critical because when the people have a lack of faith,

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Speaker 1: and rightly so, in the fair minded in the ethical

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Speaker 1: application of the rule of law, especially when it especially

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Speaker 1: when it comes to the fearsome powers of the FBI,

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Speaker 1: when the public no longer believes that that is being

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Speaker 1: done in a non partisan fashion, we have a very

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Speaker 1: big problem on our hands. And the public is right

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Speaker 1: to not just question the FBI, but to have lost

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Speaker 1: tremendous respect for it as an institution. And that is

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Speaker 1: why Director Patel, Deputy Director Bongino, and other good men

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Speaker 1: and women in the FBI under this Trump administration are

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Speaker 1: trying so hard to first deal with the rot excise it,

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Speaker 1: but also to set things right. We cannot have an

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Speaker 1: FBI that is pulling the phone records of Republicans scents

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Speaker 1: to try to jam them up on some nonsense. We

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Speaker 1: already had an FBI, as we know that was involved

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Speaker 1: with the entire Crossfire hurricane debacle, involved in trying to

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Speaker 1: pin a lie on a President Donald Trump to destroy

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Speaker 1: his administration and perhaps even to send him and members

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Speaker 1: of his family and top advisors to prison. One thing

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Speaker 1: I will note, and you should all keep this in

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Speaker 1: mind too, there are a whole bunch of Republicans who

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Speaker 1: have actually gone to prison from Trump World. There's a

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Speaker 1: whole series of people that have served time for overwhelmingly

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Speaker 1: the most petty offenses imaginable. And we've seen an FBI

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Speaker 1: with James Comey that was willing to pretend it was

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Speaker 1: investigating laws that no honest person thinks are the basis

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Speaker 1: for any investigation, like the Logan Act against General Flynn

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Speaker 1: in the first Trump administration. So the weaponization has been broad,

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Speaker 1: it has been consistent, and it has been taken as

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Speaker 1: far as the investigative body, the FBI can take things,

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Speaker 1: meaning that they have brought these cases, they have used

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Speaker 1: these tools, they've used faiza and it is a very

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Speaker 1: dangerous thing, let me tell you, coming from a CIA

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Speaker 1: analysis background, when you have what is effectively the secret

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Speaker 1: police in a country playing games, using surveillance powers to

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Speaker 1: undermine one political party or another. It doesn't lead to

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Speaker 1: good places. In fact, sometimes it leads to a straight

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Speaker 1: up coup and maybe the head of the secret police

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Speaker 1: run a country. And it paid attention to James Comy

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Speaker 1: in recent years. That is terrifying. I think a Comy

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Speaker 1: administration might even be worse than a Kamala administration. And

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Speaker 1: I just read Kamala's book and it is also deeply,

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Speaker 1: deeply troubling because it is so boring and so awful

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Speaker 1: that you think this woman could have been president in

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Speaker 1: this country. I know Trump beat her soundly, but the

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Speaker 1: fact that so many people voted for her I think

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Speaker 1: should keep us all on guard. It is a wow moment.

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Speaker 1: One of the least talented politicians of our lifetime somehow

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Speaker 1: millions of votes. Anyway, back to FBI weaponization, I'm weaving.

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Speaker 1: Isn't that what Trump says? I'm weaving? Isn't that the

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Speaker 1: term right when he starts going off. I haven't used

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Speaker 1: that one in a while, But if Trump says it,

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Speaker 1: I'm weaving, I'm getting back to it. I don't think

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Speaker 1: Trump has said that in a while. Either. That was

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Speaker 1: a big Trump isn't for a while when he would

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Speaker 1: start to start to go on tangents. So, yes, the

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Speaker 1: reality here is cleaning up the FBI is absolutely essential.

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Speaker 1: I'm just a few blocks from the Hoover Building, so

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Speaker 1: it feels very close. It feels very real that this

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Speaker 1: is underway right now. But this is essential. And then

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Speaker 1: there's also speaking of cleaning up law enforcement, there is

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Speaker 1: the deployment issue here about National Guard going to these cities.

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Speaker 1: Pam Bondy also in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee

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Speaker 1: here saying to Senator Dick Durbin, another deeply, deeply unimpressive fellow,

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Speaker 1: very common esque in that respect. Here he is, or

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Speaker 1: rather here Pam Bondy is explaining that you know what,

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Speaker 1: national guards going to Chicago. Deal with it? Play three.

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Speaker 2: The National Guard is on the way right now as

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Speaker 2: we speak. Oh, by the way, so is Director Patel

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Speaker 2: and Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche. You're sitting here grilling me,

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Speaker 2: and they're on their way to Chicago to keep your state.

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Speaker 1: Safe, Madam Attorney General.

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Speaker 4: Is my job to grill you?

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Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. No, I mean he could just ask questions

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Speaker 1: and be respectful. But however he wants to position this,

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Speaker 1: of course, but this is now going to let me

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Speaker 1: transition into this ongoing fight over bringing safety and security

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Speaker 1: to these cities and allowing for immigration and customs enforcement

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Speaker 1: to do their job without obstruction, without being unduly burdened

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Speaker 1: by lunatics in the streets who are throwing rocks and

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Speaker 1: bottles and lord knows what else at them. It is

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Speaker 1: time for a law enforcement reckoning here. Remember when it

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Speaker 1: came to January sixth, the Democrats were willing to not

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Speaker 1: only have the National Guard deployed for four or five

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Speaker 1: months with big fences around the Capitol, but they use

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Speaker 1: the FBI very much like a secret police force in

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Speaker 1: some third world country to hunt down people for nonviolent crimes,

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Speaker 1: to bust into their homes, sometimes in the pre dawn

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Speaker 1: hours with tactical teams. And I mean, just look what

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Speaker 1: they did. Well, they've done this so many times, what

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Speaker 1: they did to Roger Stone in an earlier era. They're

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Speaker 1: willing to abuse the powers of the FBI of the

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Speaker 1: DOJ for the most nakedly part in purpose. It's gotta stop,

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Speaker 1: and that means consequences. That means people have got to

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Speaker 1: to prison. If they can send Bannon to prison for nothing,

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Speaker 1: that we've learned in this new era of politics. It's

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. Does he have any understanding whatsoever? Oh?

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Speaker 1: And you can't fake that because the people who do

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Speaker 1: I'm just like you. I'm like, hello, fellow working class people.

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Speaker 1: Now we're joined by our friend Carol Markowiz, host of

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Speaker 4: Hi Buck, thanks so much for having me two.

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Speaker 1: Years Carol, two years since the events of October seventh.

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Speaker 1: I want to get into some of the policy specific

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Speaker 1: conversation in a moment with where Trump is trying to

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Speaker 1: end this thing between the IDF and Hamas and all

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Speaker 1: of that, as well as some other news of the day.

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Speaker 1: But first I just wanted to ask you to reflect

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Speaker 4: You know, the first thing I want to say is

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Speaker 4: today is the first day of the Jewish holiday of Sukkote,

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Speaker 4: and I'm not a super observant Jew. I should be better,

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Speaker 4: but I'm not. But many observant Jews, our friend Josh Hammer,

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Speaker 4: some other people are offline today so they can't commemorate

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Speaker 4: October seventh. So I'm just so grateful for you and

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Speaker 4: so many other people for noting this today in the

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Speaker 4: absence of Jews being online, and I think that that's

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Speaker 4: really incredible and special, and I feel just grateful to

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Speaker 4: have you as an ally, as a friend, and to

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Speaker 4: have non Jews care about what's going on in Israel

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Speaker 4: or with Jews in the world is so meaningful to me,

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Speaker 4: and I hope that you know how much I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely, Clay and I have felt very strongly about

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Speaker 1: this issue from the very beginning and have felt like

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Speaker 1: this was a clear case of right and wrong, not

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Speaker 1: just of course, on the horrible day of October seventh

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Speaker 1: and what was done to Jews in Israel, but so

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Speaker 1: much of what we saw afterwards I think was shocking

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Speaker 1: to people, Carol, who haven't followed this issue and don't

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Speaker 1: understand some of the dynamics of play. I mean, the calls,

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Speaker 1: them was just an astonishing show of bad faith and

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely, And it's been just a really tough two years,

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Speaker 4: I would say. And it's interesting because I went to

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Speaker 4: Israel during that time and they are so resilient and strong,

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Speaker 4: and they're really they've been prepared for how long this

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Speaker 4: to be overnight, and all of that. They want their

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Speaker 4: hostages back so badly. But it has been a tough

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Speaker 4: time to be a Jew in America, Jew in the West.

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Speaker 4: I have such faith in America and Americans, and I

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Speaker 4: it is hard to watch that commemorations of October seventh

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Speaker 4: are taking place in our biggest cities and they seem

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Speaker 4: like celebrations, and they're you know, Zionists quote unquote are

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Speaker 4: being pushed out of various bases. I mean, it's been

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Speaker 4: a decade. I just hope the right doesn't follow them

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Speaker 4: down that path. And like I said, I do feel

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Speaker 4: very comfortable and so blessed that I feel like conservatives

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Speaker 4: they I do feel like I have allies standing with me.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, Trump, I think is a consistent, consistent

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Speaker 1: ally and friend of the State of Israel, which is

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Speaker 1: and sees this issue with the clarity that it demands,

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Speaker 1: and on that issue of clarity. You know, we've had

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Speaker 1: you on Carol before to talk about the so called

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Speaker 1: genocide and the New York Times running a story with

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Speaker 1: having nothing to do with hunger. It's actually a birth

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Speaker 1: And I think it's you know, to me, it always

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Speaker 1: seemed like, hold on a second, there's not a genocide

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Speaker 1: going on, and here's why. And we made that case before.

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Speaker 1: War Two. So the opponents of Israel used this knowing

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Speaker 1: the full implications of the term in this context. But

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Speaker 1: now we have a peace plan, or at least a

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Speaker 1: ceasefire plan put forward. With all of these steps, it's

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Speaker 1: essentially Hamas has to stop fighting, hostages have to come back,

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Speaker 1: Palestinian side. And it seems like it's not a genocide

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Speaker 1: because they say, no, we're going to keep fighting.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 4: It's amazing the first victims of genocide. Ever to say no,

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Speaker 4: we're going to keep going. It's baffling to me that

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Speaker 4: anybody cannot see what's going on here. And you're right,

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Speaker 4: Trump is such a friend to Israel. I am just

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Speaker 4: just I find his clarity on the matter to be breathtaking.

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Speaker 4: And you know, I make all of the Trump twenty

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Speaker 4: I really feel like he holds back a lot of

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Speaker 4: the insanity around the world. And you know, when Britain

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Speaker 4: or France, when you recognize quote unquote the Palestinian state,

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Speaker 4: Trump sort of laughs at them and says, who cares

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Speaker 4: what they think? And that's meaningful and amazing that an

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Speaker 4: But you're right, it's the idea that there's a genocide

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Speaker 4: And it makes no sense that it really chubby moms

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Speaker 4: that it goes. So I'd love to see more clarity

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Speaker 4: from other world leaders, if there's some really good ones.

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Speaker 4: The president of Argentina is amazing. The Prime Minister of

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Speaker 4: Italy is fantastic, but in general a lot of them

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Speaker 4: are afraid of their Muslim populations or their leftist base,

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Speaker 4: and they are really bringing down the idea of civilization

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Speaker 4: around the world. It's not just about Israel. It's really

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Speaker 4: a civilizational question that they would have to contend with

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Speaker 4: in their own countries. What will our countries be with

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Speaker 4: this unchecked immigration that we've allowed to go on. It's

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Speaker 4: all tied together.

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Speaker 1: I'd also note that if there was a starvation genocide underway,

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Speaker 1: the photos of it would be everywhere accessible and obvious.

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Speaker 1: It would not be in the least bit difficult in

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Speaker 1: the social media internet era that we all live in

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Speaker 1: to see this. And yet the reliance on photos by

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Speaker 1: the biggest newspaper in the United States, for example, that

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Speaker 1: is essentially a falsified premise. I think that speaks very

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Speaker 1: loudly about what is going on here. What are the

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Speaker 1: chances they just happened to pick a photo that doesn't

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Speaker 1: depict what's going on if there are endless photos that would, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, that just makes it makes no sense. You

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Speaker 1: can supply logic to this and it falls apart.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and they cropped out his healthy looking brother out

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Speaker 4: of the photo because they wanted to project that the

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Speaker 1: What is going on on the right with and you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm going to ask you, Carol, But to

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Speaker 1: the degree that we can cover some of this now,

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Speaker 1: there seems to be some how, some questioning that even

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Speaker 1: some hostility to Israel, specifically that I haven't seen from

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Speaker 1: the right. On the left, it's been there for a

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Speaker 1: long time, yeah, But on the right it seems like

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Speaker 1: there's some problems bubbling up. Where is that coming from?

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Speaker 4: You know, I don't want to ascribe bad motives to people.

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to say they're all paid by guitar,

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Speaker 4: although kind of seems like they're paid by guitar. It

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Speaker 4: really could be any number of things. I understand questioning

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Speaker 4: foreign aid, for example, But if you're questioning a foreign

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Speaker 4: aid means that Israel should be the first country stripped

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Speaker 4: of it, I'm sorry that is not a real argument.

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Speaker 4: And a lot of the time there'll be people saying

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Speaker 4: we're allowed to criticize Israel. Of course, you're allowed to

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Speaker 4: criticize Israel. I criticize Israel. There's a million mistakes that

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Speaker 4: I think Israel has made before and since October seventh,

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Speaker 4: and you're absolutely allowed to criticize any number of things.

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Speaker 4: But the idea is that Israel is allowed to exist

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Speaker 4: and should exist, and that is Zionism. So it's really

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Speaker 4: not that crazy to say Israel is a country. It exists,

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Speaker 4: it's going to continue to exist, and we should support that.

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Speaker 4: I hope the right doesn't get wound up in conspiracy theories,

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Speaker 4: which is largely what a lot of this comes down to.

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Speaker 4: And I get where it comes from. We were lied

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Speaker 4: to again and again and again over the last decade,

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Speaker 4: and I feel like people have lost all faith in everything.

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Speaker 4: But you have to remember not everyone is lying to

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Speaker 4: you all the time, and it's you have to find

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Speaker 4: the people that you trust, and they shouldn't be people

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Speaker 4: who lie to you. If your favorite podcaster is telling

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Speaker 4: you things that you know to be a lie, they're

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Speaker 4: probably lying about other things as well, and that's how

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Speaker 4: you should look at it. You should trust the voices

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Speaker 4: that you listen to, and if you can't do that,

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Speaker 4: then you shouldn't do it on anything you know.

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Speaker 1: I've begun to see. Finally, because I've been trying to

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Speaker 1: make this case for a while as somebody who was

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Speaker 1: involved in some capacity among millions of other Americans, including

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Speaker 1: those who actually serve in the military. I was a

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Speaker 1: civilian trying to do a part of what we call

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Speaker 1: the g WAT, the Global War on Terror. But the

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Speaker 1: level of violent hate that has been inculcada in some

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Speaker 1: of these Middle Eastern societies, and specifically in the case

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Speaker 1: of Gaza, I'm a little surprised that so many people

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Speaker 1: on the right seem to have either forgotten or aren't

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Speaker 1: able to draw the obvious parallels that these society that

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Speaker 1: they're not upset about foreign eight in Gaza, that they're

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Speaker 1: not upset about the lack of some you know, some

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Speaker 1: agreement that would move things forward. They actually have been

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Speaker 1: trained and taught to hate Jews and Israelis. This is

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Speaker 1: very straightforward, and I think this has gotten lost in

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Speaker 1: the conversation, even on the right for some in a

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Speaker 1: way that bears reminding everybody.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I will say that poll after pole continues to

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Speaker 4: show that the people on the right support Israel, and

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Speaker 4: so no matter how many loud voices are trying to change.

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Speaker 1: I think that's an important distinction you're making. It's not

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Speaker 1: to interrupt your killalar.

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Speaker 4: It hasn't moved the needle at all. I would say

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Speaker 4: that abortion is a more contentious issue on the right

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Speaker 4: than Israel is It's an overwhelming positive supportive point of

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Speaker 4: reference for the right on Israel. And so you know,

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Speaker 4: I don't know what again, what the motivations might be,

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Speaker 4: but I will say that anti Semitism is not a bigotry,

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Speaker 4: and I think when people think of it as a bigotry,

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Speaker 4: they get it all wrong. It is a it's a

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Speaker 4: mind virus. Once it grabs people, it's all they can

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Speaker 4: think about. So again, if you think, if your if

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Speaker 4: your favorite podcaster has suddenly become multiple wall Israel, every

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Speaker 4: single episode of Israel, Israel Israel. They're on a dark path.

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Speaker 4: And it's not about Jews as a kind of culture.

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Speaker 4: It's about a larger mind virus that will really swallow

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Speaker 4: them up. And you've seen this happen in societies in history,

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Speaker 4: where once it gets going, it really doesn't stop. So

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Speaker 4: I hope that the trend where the larger right just

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Speaker 4: blocks out those voices continues, and that's what.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to be Look, what are you going to

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Speaker 1: be talking about this on normally, Carol.

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Speaker 4: So normally just celebrated our one year anniversary book Mary

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Speaker 4: Catherine Ham and I completely didn't realize the date, so

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Speaker 4: it's actually a year and a week and of half

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Speaker 4: or so. But we're really thrilled to be on the

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Speaker 4: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton podcast network. It's been amazing.

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Speaker 4: We cover news of the day in a funny way

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Speaker 4: and I hope your listeners will tune in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. No, you guys are doing a great ladies, I

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Speaker 1: should say, are doing a great show and I love it. Yeah, Carol,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for being here. Appreciate you talking

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Speaker 1: to you as always, and we'll talk to you again soon.

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Speaker 4: Thanks so much.

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Speaker 1: Two years ago, we woke up to the horrific news

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Speaker 1: from Israel. The terrorists were on a rampage, slaughtering innocent civilians.

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Speaker 1: By the end of the day, the death toll was

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Speaker 1: twelve hundred, with two hundred and fifty people taken hostage.

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Speaker 1: The equivalent of that in the US would be forty

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Speaker 1: thousand Americans, to give you a sense of the magnitude.

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Speaker 1: Americans have supported the people of Visrael for the past

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Speaker 1: two years in big and small ways with the help

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Speaker 1: of the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. One way

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Speaker 1: is by joining a growing movement called Flags of Fellowship.

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Speaker 1: The Flags of Fellowship unites churches across America planning over

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Speaker 1: one million Israeli flags across our country show the world

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Speaker 1: that Israel is not alone. To get more information about

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Speaker 1: how you can join the Flags of Fellowship movement, visit

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Speaker 1: IFCJ dot org. That's IFCJ dot org.

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Speaker 5: Clay Travison, Buck Sexton, Mike drops that never sounded so good.

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Speaker 5: Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you

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Speaker 5: get your podcast.

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Speaker 1: All right, everybody, welcome back in. I'm joined by my

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Speaker 1: friend Leland Viddert on Balance. Leland Vindert is a show

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Speaker 1: on News Nation program that I'm honored to occasionally get

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Speaker 1: to grace with my presence or I am grace by

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Speaker 1: its presence either way. And as speaking of presents, I'm

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Speaker 1: here in our c studio and I am feeling like

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Speaker 1: a like a fraternity bum or something. This guy comes

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Speaker 1: in here dressed like Gordon Gecko. This is the difference

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Speaker 1: between TV and radio. I'm wearing like sweatpants and a

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Speaker 1: fleece and Leland comes in here. Christp is one hundred

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Speaker 1: dollars bill ready for television at a moment's notice. So

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, good for you, my friend. It's a

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Speaker 1: respect respect. You gotta do it how you do it.

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Speaker 1: We've got this book. It is doing very well, Born lucky,

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Speaker 1: a dedicated father, a grateful son, and my journey with autism.

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Speaker 1: This has really struck a chord with people. Tell everybody

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Speaker 1: a bit about it.

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Speaker 10: So Buck Born Lucky is the story of my father

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Speaker 10: when I was diagnosed with autism, choosing to adapt me

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Speaker 10: to the world rather than the world to me. So

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Speaker 10: this goes back to the nineteen eighties, and this book

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Speaker 10: is for every parent of a kid having a hard time,

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Speaker 10: doesn't matter if it's a parent of a kid on

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Speaker 10: the autism spectrum, ADHD, anxiety.

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Speaker 1: Social issues, bullying at school.

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Speaker 10: It is proof to parents of how much agency they

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Speaker 10: have and how much hope there is for a loving

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Speaker 10: parent to really dedicate to their kid and help their

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Speaker 10: kid be more and achieve their full potential in a

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Speaker 10: way they never would if they listen to the experts.

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Speaker 1: Tell me more about that part of this, like what

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Speaker 1: what are some of the hurdles, the artificial hurdles that

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Speaker 1: are put in place by expert opinion about autism. How

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Speaker 1: to deal with this and.

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Speaker 10: What are the take Look, there is a movement in America,

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Speaker 10: and the experts will tell you to meet kids where

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Speaker 10: they are right. So you just sort of put little

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Speaker 10: Sally in a in bubble wrap and tell her that

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Speaker 10: she's perfect and everything's great and we're so proud of

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Speaker 10: you and everything else. Nineteen eighty eight, eighty nine. My

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Speaker 10: parents are told that I have to be evaluated, so

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Speaker 10: they take me to one of those little medical centers.

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Speaker 10: You're a new dad, worst thing a parent could possibly hear, right,

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Speaker 10: So they take me to one of these little medical

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Speaker 10: testing centers. Linoleum floors, old magazines, stale coffee whatever. The

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Speaker 10: woman comes back with me after two hours. They're nervous,

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Speaker 10: and the woman says to my parents, we have no

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Speaker 10: idea what's going on inside his head?

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Speaker 1: What I what were some of the signs right? How

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Speaker 1: did you know the exactly? How did they know that?

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Speaker 10: You know, I had terrible behavioral issues. So if a

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Speaker 10: kid touched me in the lunch line, I'd turn around

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Speaker 10: and slug them. I had awful behavioral issues, sensory issues.

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Speaker 10: Couldn't really wear a lot of clothes or socks or

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Speaker 10: anything else because I didn't like how it felt on

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Speaker 10: my skin. Big learning disability. So from the IQ test.

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Speaker 10: Two halves of an IQ test make up the average

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Speaker 10: of your IQ, but doesn't have to do an average

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Speaker 10: his additive. It just goes very high. Mine was half genius,

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Speaker 10: half mentally retarded. So twenty points spread in your IQ

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Speaker 10: test is a learning disability. I had a seventy point spread.

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Speaker 10: And the woman said to my dad, looked, you know,

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Speaker 10: there's not much you can do. And my dad goes,

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Speaker 10: as any father would, anything we can do, and she

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Speaker 10: goes generally not got to meet him where he's at.

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Speaker 10: And my dad said, if I meet him where he's at,

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Speaker 10: and I adapt the world to him and I give

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Speaker 10: him extra time on tests and behavior modification plans in

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Speaker 10: school and tell everybody what's happening, he's not going to

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Speaker 10: know how to operate in the real world. So this

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Speaker 10: was my dad's quest to adapt me to the real world.

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Speaker 1: What were some of the things that in that process

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Speaker 1: he did he learned? Yeah, and congratulations to your father.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I also just so I have no personal

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Speaker 1: experience of anyone in my family with autism. I have

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Speaker 1: people and my extended family that have serious mental health challenges,

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Speaker 1: people who have have I have a second cousin with

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Speaker 1: Down syndrome, but I've never experienced somebody close to me

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Speaker 1: with autism, and so my knowledge of it is really

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Speaker 1: just from reading picking things up in the media. We'll

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Speaker 1: hear about the spectrum. What are some of the things

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Speaker 1: that your father had to learn and had to understand

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Speaker 1: to push you through this process.

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Speaker 10: It is a great question, and this was much less

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Speaker 10: about autism because at the time autism was really not

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Speaker 10: understood very well. To a father leaning in and saying,

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Speaker 10: I am going to push my son to be more right.

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Speaker 10: So he knew I couldn't get self esteem from school

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Speaker 10: because of learning disabilities. I wasn't going to have any friends,

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Speaker 10: so I couldn't be the popular kid, and I couldn't

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Speaker 10: do athletics because I was completely uncoordinated. So it's six

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Speaker 10: years old. He started me doing two hundred push ups

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Speaker 10: a day as a way to start earning self esteem.

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Speaker 10: Two hundred push ups a day, five days a week. Now,

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Speaker 10: what expert wouldever tell a parent do that, right, But

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Speaker 10: it was to teach me effort in equals real results

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Speaker 10: and real achievement.

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Speaker 1: He was big on character.

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Speaker 10: He said, the two things you can control your character

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Speaker 10: and your work ethic. That was something that he forced

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Speaker 10: me to take a lot of pride in. And then

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Speaker 10: it was trying to teach me, almost minute by minute,

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Speaker 10: the social skills that come naturally to people and the

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Speaker 10: human equation. So he would take me out to lunch

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Speaker 10: with one of his friends. I had a lot of

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Speaker 10: free time because no kid wanted to hang out with me.

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Speaker 10: And we show you in Born Lucky. He would take

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Speaker 10: me out and he would sit me down at lunch

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Speaker 10: with one of his friends. I'd start talking to the

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Speaker 10: guy in badgering him, and my dad would tap his

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Speaker 10: watch and that was the signal for me to stop talking.

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Speaker 10: Number one. But in Born Lucky, then we take you

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Speaker 10: into the right where he would sit there and be like, okay.

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Speaker 10: When mister Sexton never never buck, never buy a first name.

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Speaker 10: But when he was talking about his his new child

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Speaker 10: and his dog, why did you want to talk about

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Speaker 10: how many commercials are in his radio show? I don't

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Speaker 10: know dat. I thought it was interesting. Well, what do

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Speaker 10: you think mister Sexton wanted to talk about. It was

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Speaker 10: this minute by minute teaching of.

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Speaker 1: The human emotional skills.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, my emotional intelligence was about free in your freezing level,

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Speaker 10: iq EQ was freezing.

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Speaker 1: So how long did it take? I mean I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: have known from I mean, we've known each other professional dude,

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Speaker 1: we're getting old. I brought I think I probably met

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Speaker 1: you a decade ago, so it's been at least yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's been a long time. Did your show

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Speaker 1: at Fox a long time ago? I would not have known.

863
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Speaker 1: And again, I'm somebody who there's a lot of people

864
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Speaker 1: listening who have autistic children or grandchildren or have dealt

865
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Speaker 1: with this themselves, so they have a much higher understanding

866
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Speaker 1: of it. But in layman's understanding of it, I would

867
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Speaker 1: never have known that you struggled with autism. Is your

868
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Speaker 1: level of functionality in day to day unusual for somebody

869
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Speaker 1: who's ever been diagnosed with autism? I mean people always

870
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Speaker 1: talk about this spectrum. I mean, how do you describe

871
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Speaker 1: that so that there's.

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Speaker 10: I'm not an expert on it, right, sure you experience

873
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Speaker 10: my own experience, though what I would say is it's

874
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Speaker 10: an everyday struggle.

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Speaker 1: Was was there a point at which though you were,

876
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Speaker 1: you felt like you were more normal. You know you really,

877
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Speaker 1: I'm saying, and like the point in times when you said, Okay,

878
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Speaker 1: I've caught up. I have that emotional intelligence.

879
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Speaker 10: It's a great question. I would say, it's still a

880
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 10: struggle every day, every hour to force your mind to

881
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Speaker 10: think through the way that my dad taught me to

882
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Speaker 10: think rather than the way my mind normally would think.

883
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 10: In the book and Born Lucky compared a little bit

884
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Speaker 10: almost like alcoholism, that it's it's never a cure, something

885
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 10: you work on every day. But sure, you know, my

886
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Speaker 10: dad used to always tell me when I was bullied

887
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Speaker 10: and isolated alone in middle school and high school, what's

888
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Speaker 10: making you bullied and isolated and alone is what's going

889
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Speaker 10: to help you succeed later in life. And there was

890
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Speaker 10: a time, sure, once I got into TV and started

891
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Speaker 10: working that hard work, good character made up for a

892
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Speaker 10: lot of the emotional intelligence that I didn't have. But

893
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Speaker 10: certainly it's something I still deal with every day.

894
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Speaker 1: So this was a progression over time. We're speaking to

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Speaker 1: Leland Wittert. The book is Born Lucky, a dedicated father,

896
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Speaker 1: a grateful son, and my journey with autism. Obviously this

897
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Speaker 1: this conversation. But autism also comes up a lot in

898
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Speaker 1: the context of RFK junior. And I'm not going to

899
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Speaker 1: put you on the spot. You're welcome, You're welcome to

900
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Speaker 1: Do you have thoughts? Yeah, do you have thoughts about

901
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 1: why there's been this explosion in diagnoses of this condition?

902
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Speaker 1: Which that part of it. I think everyone agrees that

903
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Speaker 1: a lot more of this than there has been.

904
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Speaker 10: Absolutely, And I'm not a doctor. I'm not a scientist.

905
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Speaker 10: I have the chemistry grades to prove it. So I

906
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Speaker 10: won't discuss tailan audosing. You don't want to hear from

907
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 10: me on that. But I think it's fantast that this

908
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 10: is now the scientific question of our time. One in

909
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Speaker 10: fifteen hundred kids when I was diagnosed, now one in

910
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Speaker 10: thirty one, three times hire for boys and hire still

911
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Speaker 10: impoorer minority communities.

912
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 1: This should be the.

913
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 10: Scientific question of our time. And look, you're a new father.

914
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Speaker 10: If my wife was pregnant, I'm newly married and you said, hey,

915
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Speaker 10: check a box, your kid can have autism or not.

916
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 10: Every parent perspective, parent is checking no, right.

917
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's a big challenge. I know that I

918
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Speaker 1: have friends who have autistic kids.

919
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Speaker 10: Yeah, So why would we not try to solve this problem?

920
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 10: And I wrote an out bed in the Wall Street

921
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 10: Journal before Born Lucky came out, effectively saying, you know,

922
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Speaker 10: does the left or does the anti Trump crew hate

923
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 10: Trump more than they love our kids? Because if you're

924
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 10: all you're going to do is demonize RFK and Trump

925
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Speaker 10: on the search for this answer, that's the only explanation.

926
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Speaker 1: So you believe obviously that the public focus, well the

927
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:55,280
Speaker 1: Trump administration focused on this is clearly a good faith

928
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 1: effort to try to get at an answer that we

929
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 1: should all want. But of course this becomes politicized because

930
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Speaker 1: any Trump and RFKA Junior now are involved in people

931
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Speaker 1: view through a partisan lens.

932
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Speaker 10: Right everything everybody who views everything now in America through

933
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Speaker 10: a partisan lens. And I think part of the reason

934
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Speaker 10: Born Lucky has gotten such a tremendous response, right we're

935
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Speaker 10: now in our third printing, in our first week, is

936
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Speaker 10: because it proves to parents how much hope there is

937
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Speaker 10: and how much agency they have, and no one is

938
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Speaker 10: telling parents that, whether it's autism or ADHD or anything else.

939
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Speaker 10: I had a parent come up to me and say,

940
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 10: your book speaks so much to me, and I knew

941
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Speaker 10: both of these women's kids. They were both very successful

942
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 10: college athletes at an Ivy League school. I said, you

943
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 10: know your kid didn't have a hard time. He said, oh, well,

944
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 10: my kid had a nut allergy. And they told me

945
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:43,439
Speaker 10: when my son had a nut allergy, just to pull

946
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 10: nuts out of every classroom that he was going to

947
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,879
Speaker 10: be in. And instead, I said, I'm going to desensitize

948
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 10: him to nuts. So that is the born Lucky story,

949
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Speaker 10: just through various different challenges that every parent faces.

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Speaker 1: So now I'm one of these people that is particularly

951
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 1: interested in the book because it resonates with me. And

952
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 1: I'll tell you why. As I say, so, you are

953
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 1: a you know in our business. Just to be employed,

954
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 1: is I think successful?

955
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Speaker 4: Right?

956
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 1: I mean no, really, I mean to be true. You know,

957
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 1: you have your own show. I share this huge platform

958
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 1: with Clay. The fact that we get to do what

959
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 1: we do is you're you're beating the odds and very

960
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 1: blessed and very fortunate. Right. But you're a TV presenter

961
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,879
Speaker 1: and so your ability to connect with audiences is your

962
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Speaker 1: currency in one way or another. Right, That's the way

963
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Speaker 1: it works. I'm a radio host. I had a speech

964
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Speaker 1: impediment as a kid. I had a speech impediment, and

965
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Speaker 1: it made me so uncomfortable. I mean I would mispronounce

966
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Speaker 1: my own name, made me so uncomfortable that they thought

967
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Speaker 1: about pulling me out of school. And it was my

968
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Speaker 1: mother who really stepped in and said, no, I will,

969
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Speaker 1: I will work with him. No, we will figure this out.

970
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Speaker 1: And I went to speech therapy and I had tutors

971
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Speaker 1: after school and all of this because she didn't want

972
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Speaker 1: me to be one of those kids who felt like

973
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Speaker 1: he couldn't be with the other kids. And that was

974
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Speaker 1: a remark. I will never be able to thank my

975
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Speaker 1: mother enough for that one. And the story that I

976
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Speaker 1: always tell us here I was a kid who could

977
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Speaker 1: not pronounce his name, true story. I could not pronounce

978
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Speaker 1: my own name in first second going into third grade,

979
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Speaker 1: constantly made fun of for that. And here I sit

980
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Speaker 1: on a microphone. We're speaking to a few million people

981
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Speaker 1: right now, something two to three million depends on the

982
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 1: say you've done pretty well. And so radio, which is

983
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 1: obviously about the ability to verbalize and communicate, is how

984
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Speaker 1: I make a living. And I started out with a

985
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Speaker 1: speech impediment, and then with the tutors. By the way,

986
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Speaker 1: they got me to the point where I was about

987
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Speaker 1: two years ahead of grade level in terms of academics

988
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Speaker 1: within eighteen months. So went from you can't speak, you

989
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Speaker 1: need to go to a special place, you can't stay

990
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Speaker 1: with your friends, to my mom saying, just like your

991
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 1: dad did, we're going to figure this out. And I

992
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Speaker 1: think that that really does resonate with people. It the

993
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Speaker 1: parents make the difference. Parents make such a huge difference

994
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Speaker 1: in all of this. Born Lucky is the book everybody.

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Speaker 1: I have a feeling right now, a lot of people

996
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Speaker 1: are going on Amazon, a lot of people are looking

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Speaker 1: to be a part of your third printing of this.

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Speaker 1: Congrats on the success of Leland Vidtert, and I'll be

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Speaker 1: seeing you on your News Nation show very soon, very soon. Indeed,

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Speaker 1: do great work over there, and thank you for this

1001
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Speaker 1: important book. And good to see you here in the studio,

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Speaker 1: even though you make me feel like I'm underdressed in

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Speaker 1: my own studio. That's okay, though, that's okay.

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