WEBVTT - New and Gruesome Details in D4vd Investigation

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<v Speaker 1>It has been a week of fast moving and pretty

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<v Speaker 1>gruesome developments and updates in the case of singer David,

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<v Speaker 1>who had a teenage girl's dead and dismembered body found

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<v Speaker 1>in the trunk of his car, And with that, welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to this episode of Amy and TJ. Roobs. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this story sounded weird from the very beginning, and now

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<v Speaker 1>it gets in some cases, weirder and more gruesome.

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<v Speaker 2>It absolutely has, And just when you think that you've

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<v Speaker 2>heard the worst detail, you get more trickling out. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's been the tough One of the tough

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<v Speaker 2>parts about this case. We heard in September a young

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<v Speaker 2>teenage girl's decomposed and dismembered body was found in the

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<v Speaker 2>trunk of David's car, and then there was nothing, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean almost no information coming out of the LAPD. And

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<v Speaker 2>now once we've gotten the confirmation that David, Singer David,

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<v Speaker 2>is in fact a suspect, now we're starting to get

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<v Speaker 2>more information coming out.

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<v Speaker 3>And the the.

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<v Speaker 2>Details we got over the weekend were exceptionally tough to hear.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, people we're wondering. Quite frankly, I am not necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>surprised by some of the details because it fits with

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<v Speaker 1>the story we got at the beginning. They just didn't

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<v Speaker 1>fill in any blinks, right right, So now I'm hearing, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>she was the way she was decomposing, she was dismembered.

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<v Speaker 1>And now the new updates we're getting Robes and we

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<v Speaker 1>were going to get into is that she was possibly

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<v Speaker 1>they believe frozen her dismembered body parts at some point.

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<v Speaker 1>So Robes, Yes, all this is gruesome and awful, but

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<v Speaker 1>it fits with some of the little information we had,

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<v Speaker 1>which is that they thought she was dead for a

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<v Speaker 1>while before she was. That would explain why maybe God, again,

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<v Speaker 1>this is gruesome, maybe there wasn't an odor initially coming

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<v Speaker 1>from the car. That's awful to say that's what we're doing.

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<v Speaker 2>It is you have to actually take it for the

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<v Speaker 2>facts in this case. So we started hearing that police

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<v Speaker 2>initially said this has been a body that has been

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<v Speaker 2>decomposing for weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>Now they're saying months now.

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<v Speaker 2>There are reports that she may have died as early

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<v Speaker 2>as the spring, like we're talking April. So if her

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<v Speaker 2>body hasn't been discovered until September, where has it been,

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<v Speaker 2>where has it been? And so what we're hearing, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>what we're hearing now, is it seems as though she

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<v Speaker 2>was dismembered and then frozen, and for whatever reason, it

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<v Speaker 2>did time out with David then having to leave for

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<v Speaker 2>his scheduled tour. But then it's believed that perhaps those

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<v Speaker 2>frozen body parts were moved into the front trunk of

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<v Speaker 2>his Tesla suv and that they literally started to melt,

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<v Speaker 2>and once it became unfrozen, the smell happened pretty quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing you could do to cover that up. But if

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<v Speaker 1>someone's been dead for that long, there's noe. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you do? How do you store a body? So, like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, some of the details now seem to fit,

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<v Speaker 1>and folks will take you back. This is September eighth.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I believe she was discovered. Her birthday was September seventh,

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<v Speaker 2>So her body was discovered on September eighth.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're talking about and make sure I get this right, Robes,

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen year old Celeste Reevist, because her birthday was the

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<v Speaker 1>day what'd you say?

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<v Speaker 3>On September seventh was her birthday?

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<v Speaker 2>Her? That would have been her fourteenth, sorry, her fifteenth birthday, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Police do not believe she made it to her fifteenth birthday.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 1>But you will see plenty of articles out there and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you understand why it said fifteen year old, fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>year old, fifteen year old. I know, there's what what's

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<v Speaker 1>the difference? Fourteen fifteen. It is a difference. It really

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<v Speaker 1>is in fourteen and fifteen, ten to eleven, eleven to twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's he's a fourteen year old child, but

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<v Speaker 1>she was found in the trunk of a Tesla southern California.

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<v Speaker 1>The car is registered to singer David. And I always

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<v Speaker 1>keep explaining we do how his name is spelled for

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<v Speaker 1>the sake of performing. I think it makes a difference

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<v Speaker 1>because people might recognize it if they saw it, and

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<v Speaker 1>might not recognize us just saying David d.

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<v Speaker 3>Four v D goes by David.

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<v Speaker 2>We even talked about how we just said deforvid so

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<v Speaker 2>we can remember how it's spelled. But he's even joked

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<v Speaker 2>before all of this came up, he had done some

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<v Speaker 2>interviews and he joked about how some people actually only

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<v Speaker 2>knew his name based on seeing it on Spotify or

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<v Speaker 2>seeing it show up on some streaming service, and so

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<v Speaker 2>some people actually really did believe his name was Deforbit

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<v Speaker 2>And he said you know what, I answer to it.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's even joked about the fact that I realized

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<v Speaker 2>that he knows some people don't even know his name

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<v Speaker 2>the way it's spelled is pronounced David. His actual given

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<v Speaker 2>name is David Anthony Burke. And he's twenty years old,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty young kid and.

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<v Speaker 1>On the way up. Considered a top rising star in

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<v Speaker 1>many circles. I keep saying neo soul the right way

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<v Speaker 1>to describe some of his music. But he got popular

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<v Speaker 1>on social media, started going viral on TikTok, has put

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<v Speaker 1>together a career, a tour fans. He was on his

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<v Speaker 1>way up at twenty years old. We mentioned her body

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<v Speaker 1>was found in the trunk of a car registered to

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<v Speaker 1>him September eighth. He was on tour at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Do I have right rhobes with my recall? How soon

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<v Speaker 1>after the discovery did he get back on stage.

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<v Speaker 3>The next night? Actually, you know what, let me let

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<v Speaker 3>me take that back.

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<v Speaker 2>He got back on stage the night after her body,

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<v Speaker 2>her identity was confirmed, the body was found, and he

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<v Speaker 2>kept touring. It wasn't until it took it took authorities.

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<v Speaker 2>This is just this, This is tough to say, but

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<v Speaker 2>just to give a clear picture of just how bad

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<v Speaker 2>the condition was that this body. Initially, police didn't even

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<v Speaker 2>know if it was male or female. They didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>the gender of the body, so it took them several

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<v Speaker 2>days up to a week, I believe, for them to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to actually identify the remains. And when they

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<v Speaker 2>named her as Celeste Rivas Hernandez, he still went on

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<v Speaker 2>stage the following day, and then after that he ended

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<v Speaker 2>up slowly canceling the rest of his tour because a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of folks immediately connected her name with him.

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<v Speaker 3>They started pointing to those.

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<v Speaker 2>Photos, they saw the song he has that Celeste, and

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<v Speaker 2>certainly people in his inner circle said that the girl

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<v Speaker 2>in the photos released by her family resembled the girl

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<v Speaker 2>who he was with. They thought she was nineteen, they

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<v Speaker 2>thought she was much older. And so when that's as

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<v Speaker 2>soon as her name became public, it took He still

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<v Speaker 2>went on stage the next day, but that's when he

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<v Speaker 2>canceled this tour.

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<v Speaker 1>The internet sleus really got to work and there were

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<v Speaker 1>several things you pointed out. You just said some that

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<v Speaker 1>triggered another memory. Oh, his family was saying that he

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<v Speaker 1>she's not his family. Her family didn't A couple of

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<v Speaker 1>them name and say she had a boyfriend and na David.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, so immediately there was a connection.

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<v Speaker 1>So people start putting this stuff together. He finally stops

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<v Speaker 1>his tour and do I have right forgive me? Robes.

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<v Speaker 1>I keep leaning on you if I'm forgetting something, because

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is right. We have not heard a

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<v Speaker 1>peep out of him personally a comment about any of this, not.

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<v Speaker 2>One thing, only from his reps initially that he was

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<v Speaker 2>cooperating with police, and now we hear the very opposite

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<v Speaker 2>from the police. They have formally and officially and told

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<v Speaker 2>many news outlets that David Singer David is no longer

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<v Speaker 2>cooperating with them.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, he may, or I should say, they may never

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<v Speaker 1>find out that they're saying. Another headlinehere we're getting, Robes,

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<v Speaker 1>is that at least I think it was TMC reporting

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<v Speaker 1>that they have a direct source related to this investigation

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<v Speaker 1>that's telling them that they might not be able to

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<v Speaker 1>ever determine the cause of death for celestreebus. But you

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<v Speaker 1>just saw totally different reporting. Was it not from ABC

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<v Speaker 1>out in La about a determination of the cause of death?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so ABC seven out in La KTLA absolutely said

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<v Speaker 2>that they are hearing this from the medical Examiner's office

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<v Speaker 2>that they believe the cause of death will be determined

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<v Speaker 2>in the next days to weeks, so it won't be immediate,

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<v Speaker 2>but they believe that within the next days or weeks

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<v Speaker 2>we will get a cause of death. And as soon

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<v Speaker 2>as they say, investigators told their reporter, as soon as

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<v Speaker 2>they determine that cause of death, things will start moving quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the quote they gave, an investigator telling their reporter,

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<v Speaker 2>once we get the cause of death from the medical examiner,

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<v Speaker 2>thing will start to move quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, it took them a while to confirm this

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<v Speaker 1>was a homicide, right, This is a body that has

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<v Speaker 1>been chopped up, yes, say decapitated. The limbs were cut off,

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<v Speaker 1>the torso is intact. Forgive me you all with These

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<v Speaker 1>are just the reporting and the facts of what's out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Limbs cut off, and the limbs were actually in pieces

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<v Speaker 1>as well. I was struck role it was very early on.

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<v Speaker 1>Her funeral was quite some time back, and they released

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<v Speaker 1>her remains to the family and Harry, how do they

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<v Speaker 1>determine a cause of death? If they have released they

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<v Speaker 1>must be done in some way. And I was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out how they could still be working on that.

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<v Speaker 1>That must mean are there no physical wounds?

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<v Speaker 2>That would be one way to look at it. The

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<v Speaker 2>other idea that folks have floated out there in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of what investigators are looking for, and certainly the medical

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<v Speaker 2>examiner is a toxicology report.

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<v Speaker 3>Those do take a lot longer.

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<v Speaker 2>But the other thought is could she have over and

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<v Speaker 2>then someone panicked?

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<v Speaker 3>So could she?

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<v Speaker 2>So if they can determine that there were a certain

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<v Speaker 2>amount of potentially lethal drugs in her system within the

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<v Speaker 2>tissue that they were able to test, could that then

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<v Speaker 2>perhaps rule out a murder charge. But obviously someone dismembered

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<v Speaker 2>her body, someone placed it in a freezer or in

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<v Speaker 2>some way to buy time, and someone put it in

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<v Speaker 2>that vehicle. So I think the toxicology report might, if anything,

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<v Speaker 2>rule out an overdose or something else that could be

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<v Speaker 2>explained away. And if you don't have any sort of

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<v Speaker 2>chemical inside of you that says, hey, this could have

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<v Speaker 2>been it's I'm guessing they might end up just having

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<v Speaker 2>to like rule out what could have happened to try

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<v Speaker 2>and figure out what did happen.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how they're piecing this and how they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to do this. But it is possible, and there

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<v Speaker 1>are cases and there's a current one going on right

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<v Speaker 1>now where guys arguing, yep, I cut my wife up,

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<v Speaker 1>but I didn't kill a I mean, so if you

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<v Speaker 1>can't prove a murder, somebody would much rather go to

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<v Speaker 1>jail for one to three years for dismembering a body

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<v Speaker 1>than for the rest of your life for murder. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's an option. And maybe he had nothing to do

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<v Speaker 1>with any of this. Robes, you innocent to a proven guilty.

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<v Speaker 1>But good god, all this stuff is stacking up and

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<v Speaker 1>he's not speaking, so people are filling in blanks, which

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<v Speaker 1>is awful. But he might be getting advised by damn

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<v Speaker 1>good lawyer not to say a thing. But Robes, you

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<v Speaker 1>said something to me. It was the first time I thought, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe he didn't do it. That is the best reasoning

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<v Speaker 1>I have heard so far. And folks, stay here. I

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<v Speaker 1>will tell you what Robox said to me earlier that

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<v Speaker 1>finally made me think, Okay, maybe he's innocent. Stay here,

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<v Speaker 1>all right? We continue now here on Amy and TJ.

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<v Speaker 1>Robes this. I didn't know where this story was going

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<v Speaker 1>to go, but we've been covering singer David since September

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<v Speaker 1>when it came out, we weren't familiar with him or

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<v Speaker 1>his music. But we have been following this case with

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<v Speaker 1>intrigue from the very beginning and here we are now

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<v Speaker 1>with a we got nothing, and now it seems like

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<v Speaker 1>we're getting so much with yes, trickling, but these are

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<v Speaker 1>some pretty earth shattering details that are coming out.

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<v Speaker 2>There have been daily headlines ever since police acknowledged that

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<v Speaker 2>David in fact is a suspect in the death of

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<v Speaker 2>celest Revus Hernandez. And once that became known and official

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<v Speaker 2>reporters are having better luck, I guess, so to speak,

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<v Speaker 2>to get investigators to give them some information because everyone's

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<v Speaker 2>running to their sources to find out exactly what the

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<v Speaker 2>latest is. And yes, we got some pretty gruesome details

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<v Speaker 2>about what happened after revs death. We don't know how

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<v Speaker 2>she died yet, but we know what happened to her

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<v Speaker 2>body afterwards, and they are tough details to process. And yes,

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<v Speaker 2>it did start to raise some questions about if you've

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<v Speaker 2>been able to get away with and I hate to

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<v Speaker 2>say it that way, but she'd been missing for a

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<v Speaker 2>year and a half and if she hadn't been found,

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<v Speaker 2>and even though people were looking for her. Somehow, it

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<v Speaker 2>was all still under the radar. It didn't feel like

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<v Speaker 2>there was any pressure. So now, okay, something happens. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how she died, but if you've been able

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<v Speaker 2>to hide her body for months, why then put her

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<v Speaker 2>body somewhere where it would be directly attributable to you?

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<v Speaker 1>And there it is. Folks, When you said that to me,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, nobody is that.

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<v Speaker 3>Dumb, not even a twenty year old Nope.

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<v Speaker 1>When you said, I swear to you that might sound wild,

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<v Speaker 1>that is the best defense I have heard for the

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<v Speaker 1>possibility of him having nothing to do with anything. Is

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<v Speaker 1>that No one in God's green earth the car I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to put this dead teenager in the trunk of

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<v Speaker 1>my car and park that car on a prominent street

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<v Speaker 1>a block from where I'm living. No nobody does.

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<v Speaker 2>That in a car registered to me with legal plates

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<v Speaker 2>yeah from Texas, where I'm from. Then number goes straight

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<v Speaker 2>to me, and I'm going to go put it a

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<v Speaker 2>block from my home and go. Then I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>go on tour and think no one's gonna notice.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean things. That's when you said, I say, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody is that stupid? And by that. I'm telling you,

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<v Speaker 1>that is the best case I have heard for why

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<v Speaker 1>there's got to be something else going on.

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<v Speaker 2>The only other thing I thought about, well, because here's

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<v Speaker 2>the deal. Obviously, whoever did this to her body. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't get my head around who has that in them

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<v Speaker 2>to do that to any human body.

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<v Speaker 3>But to go through all that work with what pol

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<v Speaker 3>police have said.

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<v Speaker 2>It was and I don't even need to know how,

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<v Speaker 2>but they just said because of the way her body

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<v Speaker 2>was dismembered, they don't think one person could have done

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<v Speaker 2>it alone. So whatever that means, You've gone through this

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<v Speaker 2>much work and now you've hidden the body in a freezer.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you're leaving to go on tour four months, not

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<v Speaker 2>just in the country, in this country, but you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to Europe. Oh okay, you're gonna go ahead and just

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<v Speaker 2>now take that and put it in a ca That

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<v Speaker 2>makes no sense. But I'm now thinking accomplices. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>thinking riffs. I'm not thinking he thinks if it's if

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<v Speaker 2>it's even David, if he thinks it's safe in a freezer,

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<v Speaker 2>in a home that he's paying rent on that he's

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<v Speaker 2>not there for, who's going to disturb it?

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<v Speaker 3>Who's going to do anything with it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the only Oh wait, there's an accomplice, according to police.

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<v Speaker 2>Could he have angered somebody enough where they said, I

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<v Speaker 2>know how to ruin his life, I know how to

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<v Speaker 2>I know how to make somebody pay the ultimate price,

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<v Speaker 2>And they could have then taken what he thought was

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<v Speaker 2>safely in a freezer or a refrigerator and then put

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<v Speaker 2>it in his car, knowing it would directly link him.

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<v Speaker 2>Could it be a setup, could it be someone trying

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<v Speaker 2>to frame him, or could it be somebody who he upset,

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<v Speaker 2>or it's wild.

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<v Speaker 1>All these scenarios of explain any scenario that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>What if somebody didn't do their job and they were

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to take care of that car while he was gone,

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<v Speaker 1>and they never got it off the street, never got

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<v Speaker 1>around to it, it didn't take Oh I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe they didn't know the urgency. Maybe he told them

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<v Speaker 1>to pick it up and didn't say what was that?

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<v Speaker 1>Who the All of this assumes his involvement. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>telling you, Robes, that argument you make nobody is that

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<v Speaker 1>stupid is the best argument I could hear for why

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<v Speaker 1>he's an innocent man and he is right now that

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be said at the beginning of the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the end. He is an innocent man until otherwise

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<v Speaker 1>proven guilty. But it's a fascinating case. It's a sad

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<v Speaker 1>when it's a tragic when he was tragic. Before this

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<v Speaker 1>young girl died, he's gone missing since eleven as early

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<v Speaker 1>as eleven or twelves.

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<v Speaker 2>Apparently been reported missing up to four times up until

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<v Speaker 2>her thirteenth year. So yes, there there was a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of disruption and upheaval on her life, a tragedy.

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<v Speaker 1>Before the tragedy, it was yeah, God, this poor girl.

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<v Speaker 1>But folks, we'll keep our eyes on this one. We

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<v Speaker 1>always appreciate you spending some time with us. From now on, TJ. Holmes,

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<v Speaker 1>alongside my partner Amy Roepike, will talk to you all real,

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<v Speaker 1>real soon