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Speaker 1: It has been a week of fast moving and pretty

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Speaker 1: gruesome developments and updates in the case of singer David,

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Speaker 1: who had a teenage girl's dead and dismembered body found

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Speaker 1: in the trunk of his car, And with that, welcome

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Speaker 1: to this episode of Amy and TJ. Roobs. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this story sounded weird from the very beginning, and now

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Speaker 1: it gets in some cases, weirder and more gruesome.

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Speaker 2: It absolutely has, And just when you think that you've

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Speaker 2: heard the worst detail, you get more trickling out. And

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Speaker 2: I think that's been the tough One of the tough

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Speaker 2: parts about this case. We heard in September a young

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Speaker 2: teenage girl's decomposed and dismembered body was found in the

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Speaker 2: trunk of David's car, and then there was nothing, I

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Speaker 2: mean almost no information coming out of the LAPD. And

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Speaker 2: now once we've gotten the confirmation that David, Singer David,

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Speaker 2: is in fact a suspect, now we're starting to get

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Speaker 3: And the the.

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Speaker 2: Details we got over the weekend were exceptionally tough to hear.

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Speaker 1: Well, people we're wondering. Quite frankly, I am not necessarily

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Speaker 1: surprised by some of the details because it fits with

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Speaker 1: the story we got at the beginning. They just didn't

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Speaker 1: fill in any blinks, right right, So now I'm hearing, Okay,

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Speaker 1: she was the way she was decomposing, she was dismembered.

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Speaker 1: And now the new updates we're getting Robes and we

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Speaker 1: were going to get into is that she was possibly

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Speaker 1: they believe frozen her dismembered body parts at some point.

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Speaker 1: So Robes, Yes, all this is gruesome and awful, but

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Speaker 1: it fits with some of the little information we had,

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Speaker 1: which is that they thought she was dead for a

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Speaker 1: while before she was. That would explain why maybe God, again,

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Speaker 1: this is gruesome, maybe there wasn't an odor initially coming

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Speaker 1: from the car. That's awful to say that's what we're doing.

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Speaker 2: It is you have to actually take it for the

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Speaker 2: facts in this case. So we started hearing that police

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Speaker 2: initially said this has been a body that has been

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Speaker 3: Now they're saying months now.

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Speaker 2: There are reports that she may have died as early

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Speaker 2: as the spring, like we're talking April. So if her

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Speaker 2: body hasn't been discovered until September, where has it been,

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Speaker 2: where has it been? And so what we're hearing, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: what we're hearing now, is it seems as though she

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Speaker 2: was dismembered and then frozen, and for whatever reason, it

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Speaker 2: did time out with David then having to leave for

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Speaker 2: his scheduled tour. But then it's believed that perhaps those

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Speaker 2: frozen body parts were moved into the front trunk of

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Speaker 2: and once it became unfrozen, the smell happened pretty quickly.

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Speaker 1: Nothing you could do to cover that up. But if

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Speaker 1: someone's been dead for that long, there's noe. What do

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Speaker 1: you do? How do you store a body? So, like

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Speaker 1: I said, some of the details now seem to fit,

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Speaker 1: and folks will take you back. This is September eighth.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I believe she was discovered. Her birthday was September seventh,

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Speaker 2: So her body was discovered on September eighth.

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Speaker 1: And we're talking about and make sure I get this right, Robes,

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Speaker 1: fourteen year old Celeste Reevist, because her birthday was the

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Speaker 1: day what'd you say?

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Speaker 3: On September seventh was her birthday?

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Speaker 2: Her? That would have been her fourteenth, sorry, her fifteenth birthday, and.

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Speaker 1: Police do not believe she made it to her fifteenth birthday.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely not.

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Speaker 1: But you will see plenty of articles out there and

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Speaker 1: maybe you understand why it said fifteen year old, fifteen

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Speaker 1: year old, fifteen year old. I know, there's what what's

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Speaker 1: the difference? Fourteen fifteen. It is a difference. It really

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Speaker 1: I mean it's he's a fourteen year old child, but

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Speaker 1: she was found in the trunk of a Tesla southern California.

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Speaker 1: The car is registered to singer David. And I always

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Speaker 1: keep explaining we do how his name is spelled for

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Speaker 3: Four v D goes by David.

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Speaker 2: We even talked about how we just said deforvid so

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Speaker 2: some people actually really did believe his name was Deforbit

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Speaker 2: And he said you know what, I answer to it.

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Speaker 2: So he's even joked about the fact that I realized

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Speaker 2: the way it's spelled is pronounced David. His actual given

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Speaker 1: On the way up. Considered a top rising star in

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Speaker 1: many circles. I keep saying neo soul the right way

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Speaker 1: on social media, started going viral on TikTok, has put

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Speaker 1: together a career, a tour fans. He was on his

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Speaker 1: way up at twenty years old. We mentioned her body

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Speaker 1: was found in the trunk of a car registered to

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Speaker 1: him September eighth. He was on tour at the time.

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Speaker 1: Do I have right rhobes with my recall? How soon

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Speaker 3: The next night? Actually, you know what, let me let

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Speaker 2: He got back on stage the night after her body,

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Speaker 2: her identity was confirmed, the body was found, and he

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Speaker 2: kept touring. It wasn't until it took it took authorities.

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Speaker 2: This is just this, This is tough to say, but

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Speaker 2: just to give a clear picture of just how bad

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Speaker 2: the condition was that this body. Initially, police didn't even

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Speaker 2: know if it was male or female. They didn't know

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Speaker 2: up slowly canceling the rest of his tour because a

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Speaker 3: They started pointing to those.

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Speaker 2: Photos, they saw the song he has that Celeste, and

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Speaker 2: certainly people in his inner circle said that the girl

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Speaker 2: soon as her name became public, it took He still

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Speaker 1: The internet sleus really got to work and there were

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Speaker 1: several things you pointed out. You just said some that

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Speaker 3: Yes, so immediately there was a connection.

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Speaker 1: So people start putting this stuff together. He finally stops

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Speaker 1: his tour and do I have right forgive me? Robes.

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Speaker 1: I keep leaning on you if I'm forgetting something, because

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Speaker 1: I think this is right. We have not heard a

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Speaker 2: One thing, only from his reps initially that he was

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Speaker 2: cooperating with police, and now we hear the very opposite

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Speaker 2: many news outlets that David Singer David is no longer

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Speaker 1: Okay, he may, or I should say, they may never

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Speaker 1: find out that they're saying. Another headlinehere we're getting, Robes,

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Speaker 1: that's telling them that they might not be able to

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Speaker 1: ever determine the cause of death for celestreebus. But you

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Speaker 1: just saw totally different reporting. Was it not from ABC

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Speaker 2: Yes, so ABC seven out in La KTLA absolutely said

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Speaker 2: in the next days to weeks, so it won't be immediate,

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Speaker 2: That was the quote they gave, an investigator telling their reporter,

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, it took them a while to confirm this

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Speaker 1: was a homicide, right, This is a body that has

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Speaker 1: been chopped up, yes, say decapitated. The limbs were cut off,

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Speaker 1: Limbs cut off, and the limbs were actually in pieces

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Speaker 1: Her funeral was quite some time back, and they released

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Speaker 2: That would be one way to look at it. The

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Speaker 3: Those do take a lot longer.

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Speaker 2: But the other thought is could she have over and

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Speaker 2: perhaps rule out a murder charge. But obviously someone dismembered

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Speaker 1: I don't know how they're piecing this and how they're

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Speaker 1: going to do this. But it is possible, and there

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Speaker 1: that's an option. And maybe he had nothing to do

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Speaker 1: But good god, all this stuff is stacking up and

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Speaker 1: he's not speaking, so people are filling in blanks, which

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Speaker 1: is awful. But he might be getting advised by damn

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Speaker 1: good lawyer not to say a thing. But Robes, you

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Speaker 1: said something to me. It was the first time I thought, oh,

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Speaker 1: I have heard so far. And folks, stay here. I

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Speaker 1: will tell you what Robox said to me earlier that

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Speaker 1: Robes this. I didn't know where this story was going

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Speaker 1: to go, but we've been covering singer David since September

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Speaker 1: when it came out, we weren't familiar with him or

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Speaker 2: There have been daily headlines ever since police acknowledged that

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Speaker 2: David in fact is a suspect in the death of

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Speaker 2: celest Revus Hernandez. And once that became known and official

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Speaker 2: latest is. And yes, we got some pretty gruesome details

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Speaker 2: body afterwards, and they are tough details to process. And yes,

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Speaker 2: say it that way, but she'd been missing for a

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Speaker 2: and even though people were looking for her. Somehow, it

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Speaker 2: was all still under the radar. It didn't feel like

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Speaker 2: there was any pressure. So now, okay, something happens. I

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Speaker 2: don't know how she died, but if you've been able

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Speaker 2: to hide her body for months, why then put her

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Speaker 1: And there it is. Folks, When you said that to me,

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Speaker 1: I said, nobody is that.

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Speaker 3: Dumb, not even a twenty year old Nope.

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Speaker 1: When you said, I swear to you that might sound wild,

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Speaker 1: that is the best defense I have heard for the

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Speaker 1: that No one in God's green earth the car I'm

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Speaker 2: That in a car registered to me with legal plates

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Speaker 2: yeah from Texas, where I'm from. Then number goes straight

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Speaker 1: I mean things. That's when you said, I say, obviously,

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Speaker 1: nobody is that stupid? And by that. I'm telling you,

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Speaker 1: that is the best case I have heard for why

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Speaker 2: The only other thing I thought about, well, because here's

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Speaker 2: the deal. Obviously, whoever did this to her body. I

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Speaker 3: But to go through all that work with what pol

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Speaker 2: It was and I don't even need to know how,

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Speaker 2: it alone. So whatever that means, You've gone through this

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Speaker 2: much work and now you've hidden the body in a freezer.

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Speaker 2: Now you're leaving to go on tour four months, not

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Speaker 2: now take that and put it in a ca That

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Speaker 2: it's even David, if he thinks it's safe in a freezer,

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Speaker 3: Who's going to do anything with it.

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Speaker 2: Could he have angered somebody enough where they said, I

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Speaker 2: And they could have then taken what he thought was

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Speaker 2: Could it be a setup, could it be someone trying

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Speaker 2: to frame him, or could it be somebody who he upset,

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Speaker 1: All these scenarios of explain any scenario that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: What if somebody didn't do their job and they were

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Speaker 1: Maybe they didn't know the urgency. Maybe he told them

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Speaker 1: telling you, Robes, that argument you make nobody is that

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Speaker 1: of the end. He is an innocent man until otherwise

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Speaker 1: proven guilty. But it's a fascinating case. It's a sad

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Speaker 1: when it's a tragic when he was tragic. Before this

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Speaker 1: as eleven or twelves.

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Speaker 2: Apparently been reported missing up to four times up until

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Speaker 2: her thirteenth year. So yes, there there was a lot

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Speaker 2: of disruption and upheaval on her life, a tragedy.

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Speaker 1: Before the tragedy, it was yeah, God, this poor girl.

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Speaker 1: But folks, we'll keep our eyes on this one. We

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Speaker 1: always appreciate you spending some time with us. From now on, TJ. Holmes,

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Speaker 1: alongside my partner Amy Roepike, will talk to you all real,

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Speaker 1: real soon