1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Stay right here for our final news round up and 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: information overload. 3 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 2: All right, news round up and information overload. I we're 4 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 2: glad you with us eight hundred and nine to four 5 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 2: one sean if you want to be a part of 6 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 2: the program. The big news of the day is we 7 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 2: have been telling you a judge would have to sign 8 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: off on this, you know, sweetheart, slap on the risk 9 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 2: plead deal with Hunter Biden as it relates to two 10 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 2: misdemeanor tax charges and a gun diversion program. This same judge, 11 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 2: ironically somebody with the same exact circumstances as Hunter Biden 12 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 2: and put that person in jail for five years just 13 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 2: on the gun charge. Anyway, So the day ends with 14 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 2: Hunter Biden pleading not guilty and the deal completely falls apart. 15 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 2: This after a very strange night last night where the 16 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 2: Houseways and Means Committee ends up accusing one of Hunter 17 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 2: Biden's attorneys, I don't know who it is, of misrepresenting herself. 18 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 2: It was a woman to the court late Tuesday in 19 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 2: an attempt to block the release of evidence that could 20 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 2: jeopardize the President's son's deal. And anyway, by Tuesday morning, 21 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 2: the committee filed an amicus brief this is the COMA committee. 22 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 2: And we just had James Combaram with the Delaware US 23 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 2: District judge in this case. And anyway, this whole case 24 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 2: just fell apart, and at one point the judge was 25 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 2: angry that the Biden's attorney just wanted the judge to 26 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 2: rubber stamp the plead. Deal ended up being a three 27 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,639 Speaker 2: hour hearing. Nobody expected it to last that long, and 28 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 2: at times even angrily. The judge said she felt like 29 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 2: she was being asked to rubber stamp in agreement that 30 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 2: she had serious concerns about. And so that's how this 31 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 2: day ends. It's a deal that never should have been struck. 32 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 2: It's a sweetheart deal. It does again shine the light 33 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 2: on what we have been pointing out regularly, and that 34 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 2: is a dual justice system. We don't have equal justice 35 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 2: or equal application of our laws sadly at this point 36 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 2: in American history. And if we don't fix it, we've 37 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 2: got we've got major constitutional problems because that document in 38 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 2: a sense becomes shredded. Anyway, joining us now he is 39 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 2: the head of the ACLJ, the American Center for Law 40 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 2: and Justice, also my own personal attorney, chief counsel for 41 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 2: the American Center for Law and Justice. Jay Sekulo is 42 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 2: with us, guy, how many Supreme Court cases have you won? 43 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 2: Twenty one or twenty two? 44 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: But think about last count? About twenty two. 45 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 2: Last by the way, I love how you say that, oh, 46 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 2: last count, I only won twenty two Supreme Court cases. 47 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: That's all situation during COVID where we had four cases, 48 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: and we argue, you know it was done by phone, 49 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: but I still count them because they came out pretty well. 50 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 2: So no, I think you have to count them. A 51 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 2: win is a win, is a win, Jay, it doesn't matter. 52 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 2: It still counts as a matter of law. There were 53 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 2: many of us that looked at this plead deal and 54 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 2: just a media said, here we go again. Here this 55 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 2: would never have happened to anybody with the last name Trump. 56 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 2: And this is now becoming a big issue for the 57 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 2: American people, and that is we don't believe that there's 58 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 2: equal justice under the law, and that the Justice Department 59 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 2: under Merrick Garland has been weaponized and politicized. And James Comer, 60 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 2: you know, echoing those comments in the last half hour 61 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 2: your thoughts on the events. 62 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: Today, Well, you know, it's interesting I've said this before 63 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: in your broadcast you've said it. Hunter Biden's lead lawyer, 64 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: Faby Low is one of the. 65 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,239 Speaker 2: Best there is, by the way, he's scary good. He's 66 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 2: there's like five great lawyers in DC. You're one of them, 67 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 2: and he's on the list them. Didn't mean to interrupt, You're. 68 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: Not kidding if he If you're the defendant, you want 69 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: Abu Low in your corner. So I having negotiated a 70 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: very good deal for his client. But what fell apart 71 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: today was the entire apparatus to enter the plea. Normally 72 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: on a hearing like this is just literally to enter 73 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: your the plea bargain the plea agreement, and the judge 74 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: asked questions like what does it cover? Do you understand 75 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: all this? And they did not have. Between the government 76 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: and the defense lawyers, there was not a meeting of 77 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: the mind. The government said that this just involved the 78 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: two tax related charges and the as you said, the 79 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: deferment of the gun possession from the years twenty fourteen 80 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: to nineteen. The defendants thought this was a universal immunity deal. Basically, 81 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: you know, you plead guilty to these counts. 82 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 3: And you couldn't bring any more charges, goes. 83 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: And everything else that might have been criminal during that 84 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 1: time period goes away. The government said no, no, no, it's 85 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: still an open proceeding. It's still an open investigation, so 86 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: there could be other charges. Hunter Biden's lawyer said, well, 87 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: that's not what we understand, and at that point the 88 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: judge intervens says, you know, here's the problem. From a 89 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: due process standpoint. The defendant is about to waive their 90 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: rights to a speedy trial, the right to confront witnesses, 91 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 1: the right to a trial by jury, and we're not 92 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: even having an agreement as to what this cover. So 93 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 1: I'm not accepting this plea. Go back, work it out, 94 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: file a brief, letting me know what's really agreed to here, 95 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: and then we'll reevaluate at the end of the day. 96 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: I think the judge will end up accepting it, assuming 97 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: they come to an agreement. But you're talking about chaos. 98 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 1: And then to top the chaos off, you know, the 99 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: night before, you have this apparently bizarre attempt by one 100 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: of the defense lawyers, apparently a female defense lawyer calling 101 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: in the clerk of the court, acting as if she's 102 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 1: a lawyer for the House, who had followed an a 103 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: meekas brief to get that document off the docket chief 104 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 1: because they didn't like what was in it. And so 105 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: this morning everybody thought it was going to start with 106 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: the sanctions hearing, but that's not what happened. The whole 107 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: plea fell apart. Do I think it's over with No, 108 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: I don't do. I think there's a two tier system 109 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: of justice. Yes I do. Do I think this case 110 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: ultimately will resolve on a plea, Yeah, I do, you do. 111 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 2: But now we're discovering more and more through Comerce Committee, 112 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 2: especially as it relates to the Biden family and moneies 113 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 2: that have changed hands. You know, it's taken a while 114 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 2: to get the ten twenty three form suspicious activity reports. 115 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 2: He talked at length about all these varying shell companies. 116 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 2: In other words, an LLC will be formed but for 117 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 2: no real business purpose, but for the purpose of just 118 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 2: funneling money from one account to another account to another account. 119 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 2: And he's identified nine family members of the Bidens that 120 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 2: have benefited financially, including grandchildren. I'd like to know what 121 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 2: they did for that money, how to earn how they 122 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 2: earned their part. But so it seems that between the 123 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 2: whistleblower testimony from the IRS, the ten twenty three form, 124 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 2: which I want to get into detail with you in 125 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 2: a second, that we're now getting a much more objective 126 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 2: picture of just the extent that the Biden family was 127 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 2: making millions and millions and millions of dollars from all 128 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 2: these foreign countries, many of which are our top geopolitical 129 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 2: foes like Russia, China, et cetera. 130 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, so here's why I still think it resolves and 131 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: made it resolve this to these other shoes. But I 132 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: think for the years twenty fourteen through twenty nineteen as 133 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 1: it relates to taxes, drugs, and guns, this case is 134 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: going to be resolved now as it relates to foreign 135 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: agent registration and that that may be a different story, 136 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: and maybe they don't come to an agreement on that. 137 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: But remember, sitting president can't be indicted, so they can't 138 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: indict Joe Biden for any of this. That we argue 139 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: that for President Trump successfully that he could not be 140 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: prosecuted as well, while in the office the president's sons 141 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: in a different category. He is not the chief executive, 142 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: He is not the president, so he can be prosecuted. 143 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: So the question is, you know what, Sean, Here's what 144 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: I think, though, I think this is all being done, 145 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: and when it does resolve, it's going to give When 146 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: the US Attorney Weiss is on the stand or testifying 147 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: before Congress and they say is this an ongoing investigation, 148 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: He's going to be able to say yes. 149 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 2: And at that point that would mean would that kill 150 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 2: the plea deal? Because Weiss is now expected apparently he's 151 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,559 Speaker 2: gotten the sign off from the DOJ to testify before 152 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 2: Congress in September, and there had been all sorts of 153 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 2: questions about whether his office. John Solomon reported that Weiss's 154 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 2: office had signed off on felony charges to be brought 155 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 2: against Hunter, and yet he didn't go with those charges, 156 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 2: which would be highly unusual. 157 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, Weiss says he did not, that he did not 158 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: seek anything he didn't get. There's a lot of he's 159 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: gonna have to answer that question because there was reports 160 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: that he wanted to bring charges in the District of Columbia, 161 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: which we would have to get the permission of the 162 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: US Attorney there or the just Main Justice. Same thing 163 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 1: in California. But he didn't, So we'll find out what 164 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: he says. Here's the real scoop on that all these hearings, 165 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: they're good, they're helpful. That kind of sheds the light 166 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: on this. This may result an impeachment. Who knows, at 167 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: least an impeachment proceeding before the House of Representatives. The 168 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:52,079 Speaker 1: question becomes, does Hunter's lawyers still engage in this plea? 169 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: And I think they probably do, And the government probably 170 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: says we're going to carve out we're not including fair 171 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: of violations or things like that, which we will be 172 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: able to say are still being reviewed. Doesn't mean it 173 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 1: goes anywhere, no, but it could say it's still open. 174 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 2: Well, we got to now go back and look at 175 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 2: the I r S whistleblower testimony on Agent Ziegler or 176 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 2: Gary Shapley and the things that they were telling us. 177 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 2: For example, as part of their investigation, they wanted to 178 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 2: talk to Biden family members, including Joe Biden and Hunter Biden, 179 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 2: et cetera. And that people at the top prevented them 180 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 2: from doing their job. 181 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: But to be fair, that's the same thing people accuse 182 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: me of doing when I would not let President Trump 183 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: sit down with Bob Muller. 184 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 2: Okay, separate and apart, that doesn't mean the rest of 185 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 2: the family members can't be interviewed. And IRS whistleblower. For example, 186 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 2: Joe soph Ziegler, the Democrat, said, there's a mountain of 187 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 2: evidence that Hunter Biden committed serious felonies. And then they 188 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 2: take it a step further is that they had an 189 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 2: opportunity to extend the statute of limitations David Weis did 190 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:58,959 Speaker 2: and they didn't do it. And they let the statute 191 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 2: of limitations on has charges pass when they had the 192 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 2: ability to extend it. I can't think of a single 193 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 2: American that would get that accommodation. 194 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: Can you? 195 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 2: You would not, and that I notice he said you 196 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 2: would not, meaning Hannity gets no good special treatment. 197 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: Ever, no one will, I mean at that level. Let's 198 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: be honest. I mean, who lets the statue of it? 199 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: I mean, when it happens, it happens because the government 200 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: made a mistake, not because they did it intentionally. 201 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 2: All right, now, let's go to the ten twenty three form. 202 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 2: And you and I talked about this well privately, and 203 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 2: I know you've talked about it on your radio show. 204 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 2: And this is this is interesting because on this form, 205 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 2: first of all, we're dealing with an FBI informant that 206 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 2: was extremely credible, praised by the FBI, and paid hundreds 207 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 2: of thousands of dollars by the FBI, and the FBI 208 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 2: even went as far as to say because of this 209 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 2: guy's great work that they were able to get successful prosecutions. Anyway, 210 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 2: he's meeting with the head of you of Barisma the 211 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 2: oil and asked giant CEO, and he's writing down the 212 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 2: notes that he took about how the CEO was bragging 213 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 2: that they hired Hunter Biden to protect us through his dad, 214 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 2: and they that they weren't worried at all that that 215 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 2: Hunter will take take care of all these issues through 216 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 2: his dad. They were angry that he said, I had 217 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 2: to pay five million to pay one Biden five million 218 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 2: to pay another Biden. It'll take him ten years to 219 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 2: ever track that money down. He stated he didn't want 220 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,319 Speaker 2: to pay them. He was quote pushed to pay them. 221 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 2: Thought that that Hunter was stupid. He said it over 222 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 2: and over again, and that his dog was smarter than 223 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 2: Hunter Biden. But everything will be okay because Joe is 224 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 2: going to be the one handling it. Then you have 225 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 2: the WhatsApp messages with China, which I'll get to in 226 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 2: a minute now, that to me is pretty damning evidence. 227 00:11:54,040 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 2: Jay Sekulo that that. In fact, he's basically describing the 228 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 2: vice then vice president of the United States taking specific 229 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 2: actions when he leveraged the billion dollars that he bragged 230 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 2: about to get this prosecutor investigating Barisma and his son, Hunter, 231 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 2: you know, off the hook by firing him in six hours. 232 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 2: And Hunter continued to get paid as a result of 233 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:19,839 Speaker 2: that of that shakedown. 234 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 3: I led shakedown. 235 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 1: You know, as it relates to Hunter. He could be 236 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: prosecuted for this if the Department of Justice decides to 237 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: seek an indictment. The President can't. 238 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 3: Be while he's sitting in all he could be impeached 239 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 3: for it. 240 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: He could be impeace for it, but then he has 241 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: to be convicted in the Senate. And let me tell 242 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 1: you what's going to happen. 243 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 3: There not going to happen. 244 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: I agree, correct, don't bring the It doesn't mean, do 245 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 1: not bring the impeachment charges. It just means and hopefully, 246 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: and I know the Republicans will do this. Unlike the 247 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: Democrats who impeached President Trump, the Republicans would allow due 248 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: process to the President's Council. We got none before the House, 249 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: you know that. And I made a big deal about 250 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: that on the floor of the United States Senate when 251 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: we got the acquittals on both charges. So yes, I 252 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: think all of this is live. They're now saying, by 253 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: the way, hundreds lawyers are now saying, it's going to 254 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: take upwards of two weeks to comply with the judge's 255 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: order to go through and negotiate this out. So they've 256 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: got this is going back for round two. That's what 257 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: this means. 258 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 2: Okay, let me go back to the other issue, and 259 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 2: that is the entire enterprise. Because James Comer just said, 260 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 2: we're talking about over a dozen countries paying this family, 261 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 2: usually right after visits by the then vice president, often 262 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 2: accompanied by his son, which they they say was addicted 263 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,319 Speaker 2: to crack cocaine at the time. You can add to that, 264 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 2: what's app message to a Chinese oil executive that I'm 265 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 2: sitting here with my father, I'd like to understand why 266 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,719 Speaker 2: the commitment made has not been fulfilled. I will make 267 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 2: certain that between the man sitting next to me and 268 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 2: every person he knows, and my ability to hold a grudge, 269 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 2: that you will regret not following my direction. I'm sitting 270 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 2: here waiting for the call with my father, and then 271 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 2: in less than a week, Jay the Biden's we wired 272 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 2: five million dollars. 273 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 3: Yep, what do you call that? 274 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 1: The government's got to investigate it, and if there's charges 275 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: that violates the law, they have to be prosecuted, at 276 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: least the ones that are the president of the United States. 277 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 2: Okay, so that's the what's app message, and then they've 278 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 2: already identified I just asked James Comer again. 279 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: You got to have more. You know this. 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Oh, why were they paying him that kind of money? 347 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 1: But that's not a crime. 348 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 3: That's not a. 349 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 2: Crime to pay the son of the vice president money 350 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,199 Speaker 2: without any experience at all. Do that, he said, And 351 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 2: when he asked what experience he had, he said, I 352 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 2: sat on the board of Amtrak, and I was on 353 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 2: a UN food commission, and I'm a lawyer. 354 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 3: That that's not a real experience. 355 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: Well, but the reason I'm playing devil's advocate here good. 356 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 1: It's good for the goose, is good for the gander. 357 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: So they'll turn the right around on Donald Trump. 358 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 2: Well, explain, can you tell me one example where the 359 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 2: Trump kids we were shaking down foreign countries for that 360 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 2: wanted to gain influence with their father Because. 361 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: I can't no, no, no, no, No, No, that's not 362 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I'm not saying that at all. I'm 363 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: just saying, if there's a charge against Hunter bind for 364 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: ten taking the money other than tax evasion, the charge 365 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: has to be a substance of crime. It's not just 366 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: it looks really bad that you're the vice president's son 367 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 1: and you're on a board of this company. 368 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 3: Let me ask this question. So, Okay, he's mentioning his father. 369 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 2: We have he implicates his own father and his laptop, 370 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 2: Pops takes half his income. He has to pay for 371 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 2: pops home repairs and ten percent of the big guy. 372 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 2: All right, So Hunter Biden, with no experience, is hired 373 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 2: to sit on this board. You have a ten twenty 374 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 2: three form with the CEO of Uricemis quoted as he's 375 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 2: stupid and useless. But they're doing it to get access 376 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 2: to his father. 377 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 3: Okay, is that not damning. 378 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: Evidence to you to what's what's the crime? 379 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 2: I would say influence, pedaling, racketeering, bribery, is the high 380 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 2: crimes misdemeanors? 381 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: No, that's the high crimes and misdemeanors. 382 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 3: Separate and apart. I got it. But the crime that 383 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 3: you asked me, the crime. 384 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: I want to be careful, Sean, and you know how 385 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: I feel about this. It is a two tiers system 386 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,439 Speaker 1: of justice. But let me just say this, Okay, if 387 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: they're going to bring charges against Hunter Biden for this stuff, 388 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 1: make sure they do an actual job of putting a 389 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: criminal case together, not like the nonsense they pulled on 390 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. 391 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 2: I totally agree with you. But on the surface, is 392 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,479 Speaker 2: that not damning to you? Because it's pretty damning to me, 393 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:16,959 Speaker 2: and we need to get to the bottom of it. 394 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 2: I'm not saying it. We know that those things happen. 395 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 2: We don't know to the extent. 396 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: It looks terrible. 397 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean paying a guy millions for no experience. 398 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 2: That doesn't happen. You know anybody that makes millions with 399 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 2: no experience? 400 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 3: I don't it is. 401 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: I'm a defense lawyer. Tell me where the crime is. 402 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 1: What is the crime? 403 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 2: Beerisma made a say they were buying influence to the 404 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 2: vice president by enriching the family. 405 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: Consey's the vice president's son. 406 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 2: You know what the end that racketeering is? That is 407 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 2: that bribe maybe potentially bribery. 408 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 1: Are you talking a federal bribery statute? No, that won't 409 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: be a bribery. 410 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 3: Then what were they paying the money for? 411 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: He was on the board, they said, with no experience. Well, 412 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it looks good. 413 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 3: I'm just we're going around in circle. 414 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: Really make it a crime. Show me the crime you 415 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: know I had, and to the audience out there, understand 416 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: I had to deal with this for four years to 417 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: form defending the former president of the United States when 418 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 1: they when nonsense was thrown at him and his family. 419 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 3: Do you think this is nonsense compared to what you 420 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 3: dealt with because I. 421 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: Don't statute or law that is violated by. 422 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 2: This, Okay, is influence pedaling illegal in America? 423 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: Influence pedaling, there's not a crime of influence pedaling. 424 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 2: Rack could it would fit under the racketeering statutes, rico statutes, 425 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 2: you know, bribery statutes. Are you taking actions as vice president? 426 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 2: Which is what that ten twenty three form a llegas? Specifically? 427 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 1: Here would it be the crime would be this? If 428 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,199 Speaker 1: Hunter bind took the money and then gave it to 429 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: his father, for that particular action, there could be a crime. 430 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: But you're going to have to establish not say he 431 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 1: took the money, but it was taking the money to 432 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: get a result all right. Here, you'd have to the crime, 433 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: but again it's got to be by beyond reasonable doubt. 434 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: All I'm saying is I was the defense lawyer for 435 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 1: four years of my life defending Donald Trump from nonsense, Okay, nonsense. 436 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 1: Make the call to the president of Ukraine, and they're 437 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 1: doing an impeachment. And I'm just saying, if they're gonna 438 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: do a thing against the president, whether it's impeachment or 439 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: something else, have the crime. If you're gonna go after 440 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,360 Speaker 1: one hundred for these other things, make sure you can prove. 441 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 1: I'm not saying you can't. Just make sure you got 442 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: a case. 443 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 2: I think the case is growing every day, but we'll 444 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 2: see over time. And that's why I call it the 445 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 2: Biden bribery scandal allegation. You notice the word allegations there. 446 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because they haven't you know, nothing's been proved 447 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 1: so far. They have a lot of interesting statements, you know, 448 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 1: let me tell you. Can I give you one last thing. 449 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 3: Here, By the way, Devin Archer is going to reveal 450 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 3: a lot on Monday. 451 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say on this either. But i'm your friend 452 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: and i'm your lawyer, and I'm going to tell you this. 453 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: I work for the Department of the Treasury, the Internal 454 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: Revenue Service as a trial lawyer. Agents often would want 455 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 1: a case charged at a very high level, and then 456 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: when it came to my office, we'd say, no, wait 457 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: a minute, this case doesn't reach that level of felony. 458 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: It should be this misdemeanor that happens all the time. 459 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that with regard to these agents. Something 460 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: was played with here. I don't think there's a doubt 461 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 1: about that. And I think these agents testimonies, whistleblowers testimony 462 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: are that critical to this. 463 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 2: The idea that these countries would would do business deals 464 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 2: with somebody that they even admit at the time was 465 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 2: a crack addict, had no experience, and they talk, specifically 466 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 2: in the case of the Barisma CEO, about the influence 467 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 2: of the father, I think is very damning and I 468 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 2: think they've gotta have a very hard time getting. 469 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 3: Out of that. That's my take. 470 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 2: Who's day meaning Joe Biden when he's out of office, 471 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 2: and I think, I think this is this is going 472 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 2: to follow him out of office. 473 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 1: The statue limitation expires. 474 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 3: You're right, Okay, that's a good point. 475 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 1: You never know, right, you don't and if he's in office, 476 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: there's nothing you can you know, the only way to 477 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: do that is you impeach him, convicthim, and then you 478 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 1: can try them. 479 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 3: He'll end up pardoning himself and Hunter before all of 480 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 3: a sudden done. 481 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: He is he absolute authority to do. 482 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 3: So, he does. Agreed. It's the power of the partner 483 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 3: is absolutely. 484 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: Be mad at me because I was acting like. 485 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 3: Nobody's going to be mad at you. You're being you. 486 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 3: We like you being you. 487 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: That's all right, all right. 488 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 3: J Secular, Chief Counsel, American Center for Law and Justice. 489 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 3: Thank you. 490 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 2: We appreciate your time. Now, let's get to our busy, 491 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 2: busy telephones. Uh, let us say hi to Maria is 492 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,199 Speaker 2: in the great state of Wisconsin. 493 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 3: Maria, how are you glad you called? 494 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: Oh? Just fine. 495 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:29,719 Speaker 4: I've been listening to you. 496 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: It's great. 497 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 2: Oh, thank you. I'm glad you're out there. Thank you 498 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 2: for listening. Thank you for being a part of our program. 499 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 3: What's going on? I wanted to find out if he 500 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 3: is found guilty, can Joe pardon him? 501 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 4: As president? 502 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 3: Pardon Hunter? 503 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: Uh? Huh. 504 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 3: The power of the pardon is absolute, he absolutely can. 505 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 3: Oh my god, why are we spending all his money on. 506 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 2: Oh. I mean it's a good question, you know. I know, 507 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 2: in the case of Donald Trump, you know, one of 508 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 2: the things that he said is, you know, he felt 509 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 2: that people had a right to be found innocent and 510 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 2: that he wait to the end of the process, and 511 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 2: then he ended up pardoning some people that he felt 512 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 2: were unfairly treated and unfairly targeted. 513 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 4: You know. 514 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 2: I mean, this is where the dual justice system kicks 515 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 2: in the actions of James Comy and General Flynn and 516 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 2: Paul Maniford and Papadopoulos and Roger Stone. I mean, it 517 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 2: all fits in, doesn't it. 518 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you. 519 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 2: Know, thirty agents, guns drawn, pre dawn raids, fake news, 520 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 2: CNN cameras, frogmen in the back. 521 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 3: I mean, it's insane. 522 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 4: Thank you for taking my call. 523 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:47,360 Speaker 2: Thank you, Maria, Glad you're out there. Mark's heart is troubled. 524 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 2: What's up, Mark? What can I do for you? 525 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 3: My friend? 526 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 4: Well, thanks for taking my call. So over the past 527 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 4: several elections, I know I have and I know many 528 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 4: other people have completely lost fa that the elections are fair. 529 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 4: So it's it's you know, you always get the same mantrase, 530 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 4: oh nothing to see here, steamroll the results as long 531 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 4: as they comply with what the left b lines, and 532 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 4: we see countless policies and divisions of the government fail 533 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 4: the American people, you know, the Homeland Security, FBI, Department 534 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 4: of Justice. So now, in my lovely state of Michigan, 535 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 4: rumor has it that election laws are now changing. So like, 536 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 4: for example, ballot boxes you know, the Zuckerberg boxes or 537 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 4: however you want to call them, don't need bipartisan representation. 538 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 2: They call them drop boxes. Yeah, I know what you mean. 539 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 2: And then I've heard the term Zuckerberg boxes. I've heard that. 540 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 4: So if there is not bipartisan representation when the box 541 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 4: is open, how can they guarantee the proper chain of custody? 542 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 2: The beauty of how every state votes, or maybe the 543 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 2: curse of howeveryday votes, as the states will get to decide. 544 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 2: Now in a perfect world, this is how I think 545 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 2: our voting system should be. You need voter ID, you 546 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 2: need signature verification, you need chain of custody controls, you 547 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 2: need updated voter rolls, and partisan observers watching the entire 548 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 2: process all day and all night long. And if I 549 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 2: had my way, we to have paper ballots only, with 550 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 2: exceptions for the elderly, the infirmed, and the military, and 551 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 2: make it a national holiday election day, and everybody gets 552 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 2: to go to the polls, use a paper ballot, and 553 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 2: you have partisan observers and every precinct in the country 554 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 2: watching the voting that day, so the Shenanigans take place, 555 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 2: and when the polls close, partisan observers all size watch 556 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 2: the vote counting, and then they declare a winner after 557 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 2: they've added them all up together. And that's what I prefer. 558 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 2: But that's not the system we have. So we got 559 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 2: to deal with the army. We have the system we have, 560 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 2: not the one we wish we had. And that means 561 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 2: that Republicans, now they've taken a very big effort now 562 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 2: on this issue of banking your vote. Republicans have been 563 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 2: reluctant and resistant towards early voting and voting by mail. 564 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 2: That must end. They have to get in the game earlier. 565 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 2: You cannot start out election day down hundreds of thousands 566 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 2: of votes. Many states allow legal ballot harvesting. Ballot harvesting 567 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 2: defined as somebody else handing in other people's ballots. I 568 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 2: don't think that practice should happen to me. It could 569 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 2: lend itself to a lot of corruption. Not a good idea, 570 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 2: but as long as it's what the Democrats are doing, 571 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 2: Republicans better match their efforts, and frankly, they ought to 572 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 2: surpass their efforts if they want to win future elections. 573 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 2: And then when we win more elections, then Republicans in 574 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 2: states they can change the voting system to the one 575 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 2: that I described, the one with the most I think 576 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 2: would that would the one that would have the most 577 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 2: integrity and that people would have the most confidence in 578 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 2: the results on That's what I think. 579 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 4: Okay, but furthermore, to take it one step further. 580 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,439 Speaker 3: You take it furthermore, go ahead. 581 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 4: Do you honestly feel as though the FBI and the 582 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 4: Department of Justice can all be completely revamped without destroying 583 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 4: them and rebuilding them, because they've proven time and time 584 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 4: again that there is an outrageous amount of bias. 585 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the FBI's involvement in the last two 586 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 2: presidential elections. You're singing from the Hannity written hymnal. I've 587 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 2: been saying this for a long period of time, And 588 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 2: do I think that the I don't think it's a 589 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 2: majority of FBI special agents and employees. As a matter 590 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 2: of fact, I say, over ninety percent of them honorable 591 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 2: people that live in our communities and put their lives 592 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 2: on the line to stop, you know, really dangerous, bad 593 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 2: people from harming us. But it's the upper management, the 594 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 2: upper echelon seven floor people, if you will, deep state people, 595 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 2: if you will, they're the ones that you know have 596 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 2: corrupted the system. The FBI had Hunter's laptop in December 597 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 2: twenty nineteen. They verified it's authenticity in March of twenty twenty. 598 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 2: Then why were FBI agents in the months leading up 599 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 2: to the twenty twenty election meeting with big tech companies 600 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 2: weekly and warning them that may be victims of disinformation 601 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 2: campaigns and it may be about Joe and Hunter Biden 602 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 2: That to me, they could have confirmed that laptop was 603 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 2: real to the big tech companies. 604 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 3: They did not. They had authenticated it themselves by that point. 605 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 3: They didn't do it. 606 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 2: And Facebook specifically asked and they refused to give them 607 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 2: an answer. And so they were pre bunking a story 608 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 2: that they knew would be public because they knew Rudy 609 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 2: Giuliani had a copy. Right, Okay, does that answer your question? 610 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 2: So I think it can be cleaned up and you 611 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 2: need more honorable people that believe in our constitution and 612 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 2: the rule of law and equal justice and equal application 613 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 2: of our laws. You need more of those people. 614 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 3: In power, right. 615 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 4: But the problem is anybody watching the congressional hearings today, 616 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 4: you know about the Oversight Committee and all of that. 617 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,719 Speaker 4: We see these, you know, the head of the FBI. 618 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 4: We see everybody that goes on stand they're lying under oath, 619 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 4: but nobody ever Christopher Ray. 620 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 2: You know sometimes they I think they do lie. And 621 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 2: you know, Merrick Garland and David Weiss may have some 622 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 2: serious questions to answer. 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