1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Football is backed eleven games three days. I don't care 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: that some of these games are against lauded and storied 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: programs like Kent State, Colorado State, Eastern Washington, UC Davids. 4 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: I want football, and football is here. On the Pac 5 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: twel Apostles podcast, We're going to take you through these games, 6 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: let you know where the likely upsets are, break down 7 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: the games by level of importance. Beyond that, we're gonna 8 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: get into some of these system quarterbacks that held off 9 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: the high profile transfers and talk about what it means 10 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: for the PAC twelve conference. And after that, we're gonna 11 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: get into the fact that a lot of these games 12 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 1: are being played on weekdays and it's just not a 13 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: trend we like to see continue for the PACTOL Conference 14 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: with George Reister. I'm Ralph Amston. This is the PAC 15 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: Apostles rawl for you. Ready for the preview of all 16 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: the games in the FACT welve. I could not be 17 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: more excited, and I mean, college football is here. Week 18 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: one overall stinks in college football, and but the Pack 19 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: twelve has at least three games, maybe four games that 20 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: are worth watching and that I'm excited about. What are 21 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: you ready to go? Uh, to be honest, and I 22 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: think maybe having kids broke me a little bit. First, 23 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: I get anxious first, I get anxious. So I mean, 24 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: I know I'm excited. I know anxiety and excitement are 25 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: basically the same feeling. They're kind of they're kind of 26 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: twins with a couple of little differences. I think I'll 27 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: be able to convert that anxiety as we're talking about 28 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: some of these games into excitement. I mean, I'm looking 29 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: at this Thursday game going out to cover Arizona State 30 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: at Kent State, No. And then I'm gonna get home 31 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 1: at three in the morning and they have to get 32 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: up at at seven am to take my kids to school. 33 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna feel groggy, but I think at the end 34 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: of the day, it's all gonna be worth it just 35 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: to have some football back in our lives. Oh, football 36 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: is back. There are a few people, though, that might 37 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: not be so happy that the seasons are starting right 38 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: now at this point in time. And as a few 39 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: of these quarterbacks who transferred this year within the back 40 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: twelve or from other places into the pack twelve thinking 41 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: that they were gonna win a job and that did 42 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: not happen, You're correct and I mean there were there 43 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: were jobs to be had. Let's not kid ourselves. Jake 44 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: Luton at at A at Oregon State. I mean, he 45 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:27,839 Speaker 1: didn't have the best year in the world last year. 46 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 1: He he looked okay, I mean he put up some numbers, 47 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: but this wasn't a successful team. This was a two 48 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: win team. Tristan Gebbia probably thought that he was gonna 49 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 1: come in and steal this job. Some of his old 50 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: coaching staff is in Corvallis. He was a heralded quarterback 51 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 1: coming out of high school. I know that a s 52 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: U was super disappointed that they didn't get a crack 53 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: at him. He goes out to Nebraska and it doesn't 54 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: work out for him. He immediately chases his old coaches 55 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: out to UH Oregon. Say, you figured this is a 56 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: guy that would probably even know the offense a little 57 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: bit and have a lake up lega been. Instead, it's 58 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: the six ft six pounder, uh who is who is 59 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: gonna continue his his career at Oregon State as the starter. 60 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if he's on a short leash or not, 61 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: but I do know that as of right now, he's 62 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: got that's got scary though, right and so if you're 63 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: an Oregon State fan, after the way that Jake Luton 64 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: played last year, are you excited about what's going on 65 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,519 Speaker 1: or you like, I don't know. I don't know. It's scary, 66 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: but they do return their leading he him the leading passer, 67 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: their leading rusher, they're uh and nine of their leading tacklers. 68 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: So in theory they should be better. But at the 69 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: same time, they lost all those games. They lost nine 70 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: games by at least seventeen points and a bunch of 71 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: byt points. So I don't know if that's going to 72 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: translate to wins though. And I don't think that when 73 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: when Gaby when he made the move over, I'm not 74 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: sure that he thought that Luton would would be here 75 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: from what I understand, And I mean, he was a 76 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: senior last year, right, Like, this is a guy who 77 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: was granted an extra year of eligibility, and so maybe 78 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: they just think that going with the big man is 79 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: is going to uh to help them. You know, he 80 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: got his sixth year back in in January, and um, 81 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 1: you know, and maybe it's just that experience that they like, 82 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,239 Speaker 1: that trust factor. I think it's really hard for for 83 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: coaches to sometimes switch out from a starter who was 84 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: already entrenched. Maybe it's a little bit easier to name 85 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: somebody who's been a starter who hasn't already started in 86 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: your programmer named somebody who came in over that person. 87 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 1: But Luton has already started games. They already know what 88 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: they have with him, and and uh and college football 89 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: coaches they like to know what's going on in the 90 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: head of their quarterbacks. They like to know them as 91 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: well as you know your own child, you know, and 92 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 1: so maybe they're just more comfortable with him, or maybe 93 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: he's the better player. We'll find out, But what's the difference. 94 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: What's the difference for Oregan State is at three wins 95 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 1: versus two? Should you try to set yourself up for 96 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: the future, it'll be a really interesting sitch suation. But 97 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: he is not the only one. We also moved down 98 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: to the University of California at Berkeley, where your boy, 99 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: Chase Garber's has held off a highly towded transfer. What 100 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,239 Speaker 1: do we know about that? Okay, So I remember Devin 101 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: Monster who was at u C l A. And when 102 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 1: Josh Rosen got hurt what two years ago now, he 103 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: came in got a little bit of time. I was like, Okay, 104 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: maybe he's a guy who, like he showed some flashes. 105 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: I was like, okay, there may be something there. And 106 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: then he transfers out when Chip Kelly comes in and 107 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: I'm saying, wow, okay, I didn't even have a shot apparently, huh. 108 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: All right, So then he goes to Cow and now 109 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: he got a chance to go through all the spring 110 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: and talked to some of the Cow coaches and they 111 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 1: were like, no, Garbage is probably still gonna be our guy. 112 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: I could not have been more surprised. So if if 113 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: you can't beat out Chase Garber's who was not very 114 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: good last year, granted he was a true freshman, he 115 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: was thrown into playing a lot faster than you really 116 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: would have wanted him to, but still like that, I mean, 117 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like you're trying to beat out 118 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert or or kJ Costello. That's not what you 119 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: got at all, or even a Khalil taped down in 120 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 1: in Arizona, where it's gonna be tough to unsee the guy. 121 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: That wasn't the case at Cow. So if you look 122 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 1: at Garber's mind, you he probably did get better, But 123 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 1: how much better is better? Considered that you were there 124 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: and you thought you had an opportunity. I think a 125 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: lot of these kids are coming up on a a 126 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: real humbling experience, that they're coming into a situation where 127 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: they're like, Wow, I guess maybe I'm not quite as 128 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 1: good as I thought I was, and that could be humbling, 129 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: or it just can be that you're not ready. So 130 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: if I'm monster, my next move, I'm either gonna stay 131 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: at Cow to get a great education, because he was 132 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: at U C. L A now's at Cow to terrific institutions. 133 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: But if I really want to play ball, maybe I 134 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 1: consider a U. C. Davis. Maybe I consider a you know, 135 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: a Polly Pomona like, you know, somewhere along those lines, 136 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: like the next tier down, maybe a Mountain West school 137 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:20,119 Speaker 1: that maybe the right move and the proper move for him. 138 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: But then there's another quarterback battle that went on a 139 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: guy that transferred from one of those schools at Washington 140 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: State who thought that he was gonna go to Mike 141 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: Leach's offense, much like Gardner Minshew did the previous year 142 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: and get a start, and that's not what happened. I'm 143 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: a little bit confused here because I I feel like 144 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: you don't take a grad transfer from the FCS level 145 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: unless you believe that he's gonna come in and definitely 146 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: be the guy. And with gauge Ca Brud, I'm pretty 147 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: sure Washington State thought they had the next Gardner Minshew right, Um, 148 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: and that's not the case. They end up taking somebody 149 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: from inside the program. Uh, Anthony Gordon, who is a 150 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: fifth year senior, somebody who hadn't really heard much of 151 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: or from this entire time. This is a guy who 152 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: has three career passes at Washington State for a total 153 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: of seventeen yards. His one in completion was an interception. 154 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: And so you want to talk about unproven, Uh, you're 155 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: going with a guy in Anthony Gordon who has never 156 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: played but has been in your system a really long time, 157 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: over somebody who has played a whole bunch at the 158 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: FCS level. I would think though, that that Anthony Gordon's 159 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: on a pretty short leaf though, because Mike Mike Leach 160 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: he even bitched Falk a couple of years ago at 161 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: quarterback and Falk had thrown about a trillion touchdowns for 162 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: him and he said, you know what, You're not playing 163 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: well right now, Tyler Heilski. Come on, anybody come on in. 164 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: And that's the way that he runs his system and 165 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: the way he runs his program, and the way programs 166 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: should be run. The best players should be able to play. 167 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: And Mike Leach, you know, he's gonna do whatever he 168 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: needs to do to win, and he's not gonna be 169 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 1: shy to pull any of those guys out. But I mean, 170 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: he's got a guy with seventeen career passing yards starting over, 171 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: a guy with ten thousand career passing yards with eighty 172 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: seven career touchdown passes. There are two times finalists for 173 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:30,439 Speaker 1: the Walter Payton Award, Like, here's somebody. Here's what I know, Ralph, 174 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: is that sometimes when there are players, some players do 175 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: not practice well at all. Sometimes players are really really 176 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: bad in practice. And that could be the case with 177 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: with Gage Broad the transfer from Eastern Washington. He may 178 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 1: not have put anything together in practice, being able to 179 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: throw pigs or not being able to grasp the offense 180 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: as well as Mike Leach would have won it. So 181 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: maybe he went with a safer choice to start the season, 182 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: knowing that there may be a change coming that the 183 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: kid has to get just a little bit more ready. 184 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: I guess. I mean It's not like this is a 185 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: guy who owns three FCS records, seven Big Sky Conference records, 186 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: nineteen records at Eastern Washington. He had forty eight touchdown 187 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 1: passes last year. I bet you, I bet you he could. 188 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:32,079 Speaker 1: He could be. But also they're both gonna play versus 189 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,959 Speaker 1: New Mexico State. Like, let's not get it twisted. This 190 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: is we could actually we could just move straight into 191 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 1: the games now, this is this is the biggest line 192 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: in the entire pack twelve this this week. None of 193 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: these New Mexico State is awful. And Washington State is 194 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: favored by thirty four points in this game, thirty four points. 195 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: Like there there is zero chance that they should lose 196 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: this football game. Zero. So I'm sitting there saying, all right, 197 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: if if you're Mike Leach, you know you've got six 198 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: in one hand, half a doesn't another who doesn't make 199 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense. I'm sorry, it doesn't. You know, 200 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: hurt you whoever you start, because both of them are 201 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: gonna play. You're gonna be up by a million points, 202 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: and there's no way you can lose this football game. 203 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: Do you, I mean, do you think they cover? That's 204 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 1: a lot of points. To be given up. It is, 205 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: but they're but they're awful. Man. So this game is 206 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: on Saturday, August thirty one at seven pm, and if 207 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: you want to watch it, then you may have to 208 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: get some antennas or sling or some random some other 209 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: random TV provider because it's on the Pack twelve network. Uh. 210 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I got, I got the Pack twelve network, 211 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 1: I got, I got limited DVR space, and it's gonna 212 00:11:54,960 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: be all filled with with Pack twelve games all year long. Um. 213 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I just I don't see a chance for 214 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: an upset. But you you're gonna roll out of quarterback 215 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: who's never really played before against the team that kind 216 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: of I mean that that wings the ball around a 217 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: lot too. Is gonna be a lot of passing in 218 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: this game. All it takes is one receiver for New 219 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:20,839 Speaker 1: Mexico State too. I mean, we saw that Hawaii against Arizona. 220 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: You know, you get one good receiver out there that 221 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 1: can burn the same defensive back over and over and 222 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: over again, maybe you can make it a game for 223 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: a little bit. Um. But I mean, yeah, there's absolutely 224 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: no reason that Washington State shouldn't put this game away, 225 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: especially with they're improved they're improved defense. But you just 226 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 1: with without without knowing who the quarterback is gonna be 227 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: or if there're any good If Gauge Cabrud was the 228 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,959 Speaker 1: quarterback going into this game, I'm I might actually say, yeah, mine, 229 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: it's thirty four, why not let's roll. But I don't 230 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: think I can do it with with with an unknown 231 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: I can. I can understand that I tend to stay 232 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: I don't really gamble too much, but I tend to 233 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: stay away from college games with these huge lines anyway, 234 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 1: because I mean, the only time I really bet is 235 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: if I'm in Vegas for a particular reason during football 236 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: season and I'll place like a twenty dollar parlay to 237 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 1: win you know, eight million. I'm taking like a thirty 238 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 1: eight team parlay, and then I win thirty seven games 239 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: except for the very last game, and that would be 240 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: this thirty four point game. I would say, so I 241 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: I do I do gable a little bit, and and 242 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: I truly mean a little bit, because it's I think 243 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: that's just a life tax. I say, yeah, I'm I'm 244 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: gonna lose twenty bucks today. That's surprise of being a line. 245 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,559 Speaker 1: I'm getting watch all these sports and so I mean, 246 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: I definitely, I mean, I'm it's a it's a line 247 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: that I'm kind of afraid of. Um. But at the 248 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: same time, I mean, these are this new Mexico State team. 249 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 1: Is the team, It's the level of team that Gage 250 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: used to tear up like this would be just another 251 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: day in the life for him. And he's gonna be 252 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: watching this game from the bank this year old. We're 253 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: going to play, Ralph, He's gonna play. I promise you 254 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 1: he's gonna he's gonna play. But the but the first 255 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: game up of the entire pack twelve season, because we're 256 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: just gonna pretend like last week Arizona and Hawaiian zero week, 257 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: We're just gonna pretend that that was that that was 258 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: a college football preseason game. We're not even gonna count 259 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: that for the for the Arizona Amsden's we're not going 260 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: to count that. But the first game is tomorrow four 261 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: pm Pacific. You have the Bruins of u c. L 262 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: A playing at Cincinnati and this is a big game. 263 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: It is on ESPN, and it's I mean, it's a 264 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: big game just between you and I it's regardless of 265 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: anything else. This game. It's crazy how much this game matters, 266 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: just between my credibility and your credibility. On the topic 267 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: of the U c l A Bruins, Oh my lord, 268 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: I didn't even think about that. Um, I didn't even 269 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: think this is I mean, we're talking about what games 270 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: are the most important in the conference. I'm already I'm 271 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: so nervous for this kickoff. It's less than twenty four 272 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: hours away, and my heart's just like, this is a 273 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: revenge game for U c l A U c l A. 274 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: I was at the Rose Bowl last year when Cincinnati 275 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: came into play U c l A their first game 276 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: of the season. Everybody expected Chip Kelly come in get 277 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: a win, started his tenure off, right, And that's not 278 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: what happened. But Cincinnati last year was a top twenty 279 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: five team for the majority of the season, So let's 280 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: not get it, you know, So that that wasn't as 281 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: terrible as a loss as it sounds when you say 282 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: you lost to Cincinnati, and now they gotta go out there. 283 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: They gotta head to Cincinnati, which is a tough place 284 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: to play, but the team is nowhere near as good 285 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: as they were last year. So that and Cincinnati went 286 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: eleven and two, eleven and two and they beat U 287 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: c l A t s to seventeen. This is a 288 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: revenge game. U c l A absolutely wins this game, 289 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: and to me, this is one of the two most 290 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: important games in the Pack twelve this in Week one, 291 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: aside from the Oregon Auburn game, because we have already 292 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: magnified that and pumped that up there as far as 293 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: it can go. But aside from that game, this is 294 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: the second or third most important game in the Pack 295 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: twelve this season, not just because u c l A 296 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: Is gonna win the South, but because the conference cannot 297 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: lose to mid I want to call them mid majors, 298 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: but group of five teams, I will agree with you. 299 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: I think they have Cincinnati is a favorite, but when 300 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: you're a slim favorite, it's basically saying it's like a 301 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: pick them game and that the only reason you're the 302 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: favorite is because you've got the home jury. This is 303 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: the four and a half point It opened at four 304 00:16:56,160 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: and a half points and now at Westgate and the 305 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: MGM is at three point. Cincinnati's favorite by three points. Okay, 306 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: so a bunch of people are in there putting money 307 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: on U c l A. Moving the line so that 308 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:12,959 Speaker 1: evens out of bit. I'm not as confident as all 309 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 1: these people that are laying money down. Um, I gotta 310 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 1: tell you. I mean, I don't know if it's a 311 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: matter of of revenge or not. I think I think 312 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: that U c. L A. Just has to go in 313 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 1: and focus on being able to run a confident offense. 314 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 1: I don't think the opponent matters that much. I they 315 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: lost so much last year, George that if they were 316 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: thinking about revenge, it's all they'd ever think about. You know, 317 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:43,959 Speaker 1: going going to Cincinnati is yeah. I mean, like like 318 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 1: Belichick said, We're onto Cincinnati, right, It's just then it's 319 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 1: just what you've got to be thinking about until until 320 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 1: next week. And if they lose, they can't let it 321 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 1: derail their season because this is a tough opponent in 322 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: a tough environment. And um, I mean, it wouldn't be 323 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: a good look for the Pact twelve. I think the 324 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: Pac twelve could absolutely get their clock clean. Cincinnati could win. 325 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: B why, you could win, and it would all at 326 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 1: the end of the day, d up to Oregon to 327 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:14,439 Speaker 1: redeem the entire conference. And then you know, conversely, I 328 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: think the whole conference could go out and and win 329 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,239 Speaker 1: all these games that they're expected to win, and if 330 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: Oregon doesn't do their job, then all of a sudden, 331 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 1: we're talking about the Pact twelve having a having a 332 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 1: bad day. So you know, this game, I think it 333 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: matters between you and I, but everything sort of pales 334 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: in comparison to the big one, right, So U c 335 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: l A just I just want to see U c 336 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: l A run an offense that can stay on the field. 337 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: That's it. And and that's really gonna come down to 338 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: Dorrian being hit on some short passes. They did at 339 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: the end of the year with without an athletic mobile quarterback. 340 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 1: And you gotta remember Chip Kelly went to the National 341 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: Championship with Darren Thomas as quarterback, not with Marcus Mariota, 342 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: with Darren Thomas. So if he could do that with 343 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: Darren Thomas, he can do a with Dorian Thompson Robinson, 344 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: who is a who is an upgrade but same same 345 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: kind of guy, but an upgrade at that position. He's 346 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 1: at least two x better. We'll see, We'll see. I mean, 347 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be I'll be glued to this game, absolute 348 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:16,199 Speaker 1: clue to this game. I'm gonna get to the I'm 349 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: gonna get out to sun Devil Stadium early. I'm gonna 350 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 1: post up to all my pregame writing right in front 351 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: of a television, and I mean I won't be missing 352 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: a single minute of this. Speaking of sun Devil Stadium, 353 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: that's the next game that is up. The Arizona State 354 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 1: sun Devils host the Kent State. What is what is 355 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 1: Kids States mascot Golden I saw somebody wrote Golden Flashers 356 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: earlier saying they're the Golden Flash. Okay, okay, I'm not 357 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: even gonna pretend. I'm not even gonna pretend like also 358 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 1: to be a bird. But it's also supposed to be 359 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 1: like lightning. It's it does more than the team that 360 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: this is a twenty six point spread. Arizona State is 361 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 1: favorite by twenty six points. Number one, why are they 362 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: even playing this game? First and foremost, this is an 363 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: absolute waste of time. Jaden Daniels Hill get some reps, 364 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 1: but they could have done this in a scrimmage. This 365 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: is bad. I honestly I don't uh A. Northern Arizona 366 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: University alternates every year between playing Arizona State and Arizona 367 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: so the warm up game has to be somebody and 368 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: and what's weird is this year they have two lower 369 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: level opponents. It doesn't usually work out that way for 370 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: a s U. So they'll play this game and then 371 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 1: they'll go to play Sacramento State next week. UM to 372 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,199 Speaker 1: not very quality games that probably won't do a very 373 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: good job preparing them for Michigan State in Week three. Um, 374 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: there's a little bit of danger in this game. I 375 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,239 Speaker 1: know that Kent State went to in eight last year, 376 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: played absolute zero defense and didn't protect the quarterback. But 377 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: all the danger is in Kent State quarterback Woody Barrett. 378 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a guy who's six two two 379 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 1: forty and he went into last season and played games 380 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: against Illinois, Penn State in mississip A beat So, I mean, 381 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: you know, didn't win any of those, but he personally 382 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 1: played respectively there. He's not gonna come to Sun Devil Stadium. 383 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 1: Hold on. So, so you're trying to sell me that 384 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 1: this is that this is the equivalent of Samford versus 385 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: Florida State last year when Florida's when Sanford should have 386 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: beat Florida State but they barely squeaked it out at 387 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:23,719 Speaker 1: the end. That's what you're trying to tell me. That 388 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: this Kent State game is Uh No, I thought so 389 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 1: Arizona State and needs to crush this team. I mean 390 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: that's there's no if ands or butts about it. They 391 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: need to crush this team. But I'm just saying that 392 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 1: Kent State's quarterback isn't gonna come in and and and 393 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 1: crap the bed on the field at Sundeville Stadium when 394 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: this won't match up to him playing against Penn State 395 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 1: or All Miss like he's been in the moments. He's 396 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: a big He's a big boy who has been a 397 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 1: big moment. So if a FU expects Kent State to 398 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: just roll over, it's not gonna happen. They gotta go 399 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: out and take it. They gotta go out and show 400 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: some killer instinct and and take this game. And I 401 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: think that at the end of the day, I mean, 402 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,959 Speaker 1: they'll run that score up pretty well. Um, But they 403 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: need to come out and they need to be impressive 404 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 1: from the get go. And they need to because they're 405 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: in great shape, to be honest, is the best shape 406 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 1: I've ever seen this team in. Um. But can they 407 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: go out there and I mean, do they have killer 408 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: instincts to you know? Because they're gonna play some tough 409 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: games later on. But when you got you got an 410 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,959 Speaker 1: opponent that comes in that can't protect the quarterback, and 411 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: that can't stop anybody. You got to hit the quarterback 412 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 1: and you got to run that score up. And if 413 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: a SU doesn't do that, then you start to get concerned. Okay, 414 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: so how important is this game? Do you think to eno, Benjamin? 415 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: Only because because this is a game where guys tend 416 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: to pile up stats, and if you are going to 417 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 1: make a Heisman push, how much is you know, you know, 418 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: Arizona State involved or willing to make a Heisman push? 419 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: Because I got so much clash on Twitter yesterday when 420 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: I said I posted to pack twelve best skilled position 421 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 1: players in twenty nineteen. I had number one, Labista Chanlt 422 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 1: number two, Jaden Jalen Johnson from Utah, the dB from Utah, 423 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert number three at quarterback, Zach Moss number four, 424 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: and Joshua Kelly number five. Arizona State fans lit my 425 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 1: page up there like and now a Benjamin and now Benjamin. 426 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: I was like, like, the kid is good? I did 427 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: that was not a dis annoyed, annoyed Benjamin. So I'm 428 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 1: wondering how much is Herm Edwards going to balance getting 429 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 1: some of the young guys some reps and really making 430 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 1: an opportunity for Benjamin to get to that two thousand 431 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 1: yard plateau by putting up, you know, one ninety two 432 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: oh five against a very poor Kent State team. I think, 433 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, they want to establish the run. 434 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: That's what Herman words is all about. Um. But I 435 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: think that this is more of a game that for 436 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: for you know, Benjamin's future, it needs to be a 437 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 1: game where Jaden Daniels is the one who goes out 438 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,199 Speaker 1: and show something. Because you have a game against Kent 439 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: State to start the season that's gonna be the film 440 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: that Packed twelve teams watch on you. So if Jaden 441 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 1: Daniels can go in there, he can hit a couple 442 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: of deep passes, then all of a sudden, when you 443 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 1: get to pack twelve player, you don't have nine men 444 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: in the box against you know. So yeah, you want, 445 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: you know, to go out and get his and I'm 446 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 1: sure they're hoping, you know, he can have a healthy 447 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,479 Speaker 1: one fifty and get off the field and rest up 448 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 1: for for the next week. But what you really want 449 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 1: to see is Jaden Daniels do enough to make defense 450 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 1: is nervous about making you know, Benjamin that that makes 451 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: a lot of sense and the next game up. I okay. 452 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,120 Speaker 1: People keep trying to sell me that this is a 453 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: big game, that this is a huge game. It's it's 454 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: only a six and a half point line, which I 455 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: was very surprised that that's Utah going to b y U. 456 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 1: I know that this is the the rivalry the state 457 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 1: of Utah. There's bad blood. Even though they're gonna pray 458 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,199 Speaker 1: after all of that. I get it. But at the 459 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: same time, you know, like b y U doesn't scare anybody, 460 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: and the only team that they should scare is probably 461 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: so They so Cal beat them last year, but then 462 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: they beat Wisconsin, but they only finished seven and six. 463 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 1: This is a team that you know that beat Arizona, 464 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 1: lost to cow beat Wisconsin, beat McNee State, then got 465 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 1: drowned by Washington, same thing by Utah State. Then they 466 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 1: beat Hawaii, lost to Northern Illinois six to seven, then 467 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: lost the Boys the State, and they beat Massachusetts New 468 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: Mexico and and then they lost to Utah in a 469 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 1: in a eight point game last year. I just aside 470 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: from it being a rivalry. I don't think that these 471 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: teams are that close. And if you all can't blow 472 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: the doors off of b y U, then they're not 473 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 1: winning back twelve. Yeah. I think the danger for Utah 474 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: is coming into this game knowing that this game matters 475 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: more than just being the Holy War. Right. This game, 476 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: all of a sudden is proof of whether or not 477 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: Utah is as real as some people have made them 478 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: out to be. There's no reason Utah should lose this game. 479 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 1: They've won eight in a row, they've dominated the entire decade, 480 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: So I mean, I don't really see um. You know, 481 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: it was only an eight point win last year, a 482 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 1: six point win the year before, one point win before that, 483 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: seven point win before that. So when we talk about 484 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 1: the line being closed or the game is usually close, 485 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 1: I mean that it's been probably eight years since there 486 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 1: was any a game that was decided by more than 487 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: eight points, and that was aft to ten win. So 488 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: I mean it's always close, and when the game's close, 489 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: you kind of play with fire a little bit. And 490 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 1: UH Utah needs to go out and not just show 491 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 1: that they are going to continue to hold off the 492 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 1: little brother uh and and and win by a touchdown 493 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: or whatever. They need to go in and they need 494 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: to show that this is a team that's gonna win 495 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: the PAC twelve South and compete for the PAC twelve 496 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 1: Championship potentially to go to the playoff. There's so much 497 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: pressure on this game, it's ridiculous. But it's so one sided. 498 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 1: And that's what makes it dangerous for Utah is that 499 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: b y U and this is just a rivalry game 500 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 1: for them, and then they're gonna move on with their 501 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: lives and worry about what comes next. Utah's entire season 502 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: could get derailed by losing to their arrival, and that's 503 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 1: the danger I think of having that rivalry game in 504 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: week one. But it's also incredibly exciting and uh and 505 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm gonna do my best to record this 506 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: game and then run home and and and watch it 507 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: and I'll probably stand up till six in the morning. Um, 508 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: just trying to get all these has some well, sorry, 509 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: B y U, I just say they are dangerous and 510 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 1: the fact that their defense is typically very very good. 511 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: I mean, they are Killanni Tataki. Their head coach is 512 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: a good head coach, despite that not necessarily having the 513 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 1: success that he would have wanted to have there so far. 514 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 1: And but their quarterback to Zach Zack Wilson. He's number one. 515 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: He's a threat running the ball and passing the ball. 516 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: And they're running back tyshan Um Tyson Williams is a 517 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: good player too. So this is a game where Utah 518 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: Zack Bass, Tyler Huntley, they cannot turn over the football. 519 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: If they turn over the football, they have a chance 520 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: to lose this game. As long as they protect the football, 521 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: their defense should put them in good enough positions to 522 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: win the football game. So did to me this is 523 00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: not a scary game. However, this is a game where 524 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: you know Utah needs to show up on some level. 525 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: I mean, and again, they've won the last six matchups 526 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: by an average by an average of about five points 527 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: and never won the game by more than eight. So 528 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: when you look at betting that line, I mean, you're 529 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: really playing with fire if you think that Utah is 530 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: gonna definitely go out. I totally agree with that. And 531 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: the next game up is Friday's Colorado State versus Colorado. 532 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: I think this is the last time that they're gonna 533 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:40,479 Speaker 1: play for a long time, at least for the foreseeable future, 534 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: which which makes no sense to me. If you're gonna 535 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: play a nonconference game and you're in state, you might 536 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: as well play that. That's like Utah not playing b 537 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: y U. What kind of sense does that make? The uh? 538 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: Colorado has a brand new coach, Mel Tucker. The cupboard 539 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: is not bear. Stephen Montes is a decent quarterback. I 540 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: would actually I you know, I put them right around 541 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: the J. T. Daniels category. Don't think he's special either. 542 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: But Colorado has to start like they're in program building 543 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: mode right now. They can't lose games to Colorado State. 544 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: They're trying to establish a mentality. They want to create 545 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: a real home field advantage, and this is a game 546 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: where they can get some buzz around their crowd because 547 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: last year when they started five and oh, their crowd 548 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: was a little rockiss. They were excited. It became a 549 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: real home field advantage. Then they dropped seven straight and 550 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: they couldn't get fans in the stadium. So this is 551 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 1: an opportunity against Colorado to have a good showing their 552 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: ten point favorites and if they can, you know, kind 553 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: of get if they can win this game by fourteen 554 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: or more points, that people are gonna look at Colorado. 555 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: The fans are gonna say, all right, cool, we'll show up, 556 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: We'll get the rest of this season ticket package and 557 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: really be fans a year. Okay. So, and I think 558 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: they are going to continue the rivalry, but they're not 559 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: going to continue playing it Investco Field where they've where 560 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 1: they've been playing for about for about two decades. I 561 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: think there might actually be a couple of years in 562 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: the next five or six where they don't play each 563 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 1: other at all. They will continue and it's just not 564 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: going to be an Investco Field. And get this, George, 565 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: You're gonna love this. They can't sell beer at this game. 566 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: It's being you can't You can't sell beer in this 567 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: game because a band was put in place by the 568 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: city of Denver win back in the Rocky Mountain Showdown, 569 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: police had to fire tier gas at hundreds of CSU fans, 570 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: including the marching band to keep you so yeah and 571 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: the c s U. C s U kids, they're just 572 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: excited that they got a big win in that game. 573 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: They wanted to rush the field. The police end up 574 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 1: firing tear gas at all the fans, and then your 575 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: band from alcohol sales so you can tailgate before this game, 576 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: and there's no better place to get a beer than 577 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: I mean in Denver's got all the if you're a 578 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: microbrew personally my wife is no better place than Denver. 579 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: You can't get any inside the stadium because of because 580 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: of what happened back in and that's probably my favorite. 581 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: I'm interested to see this game. However, it's scary. It's 582 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 1: scary because there are a number of Pack twelve teams 583 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: that play Mountain West teams. This week, you got Colorado, 584 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: Colorado State, you have USC Fresno State, you have u C. 585 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: L A who's not playing a Mountain West team, but 586 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: they are playing a group of five team. And after 587 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: that Arizona Hawaii game, I I I'm telling you, I 588 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: am a little bit nervous about what's going on because 589 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:56,479 Speaker 1: the conference just has to win these games. They just 590 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: have to otherwise it is a terrible look. It's not 591 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 1: a bad look at Oregon State loses, or maybe even 592 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: if Colorado, but Mail Tuckers there now he came from 593 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: the SEC. It's just it's just gotta it's just gotta 594 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 1: do better. I think Colorado has gotta win this game 595 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: just to end a seven game losing streak. Um. But 596 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: at the same time, I'm not sure it matters much 597 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: in the in the grand scheme of things, because Colorado, 598 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 1: if they want to do any damage this year, it's 599 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: gonna have to be against pactwelve South opponents. Anyway, this 600 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 1: game has never really played into the overall outcome of 601 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: either team's season. It's just sort of a fun It's 602 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: almost like a preseason game, because you know, Colorado is 603 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 1: not gonna be competing for any national championships. You know 604 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: that Colorado State is not gonna be competing to win 605 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: the Mountain West, and so you know that it might 606 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: be a bad look for the Pack twelve overall. But 607 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 1: until Colorado comes out and uh and and does more 608 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: than what they did a couple of seasons ago when 609 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 1: they had sort of their share and you know, they 610 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: went and represented the pactwelve South, Colorado has gotta have 611 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: some consistency. They gotta win two years in a row 612 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 1: before people start accepting them as any more than just 613 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 1: a Big twelve. Uh. You know, a former Big twelve 614 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 1: team that's like a charm member of the Pack twelve. 615 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: I honestly believe I doude. I believe this with all 616 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 1: my heart that there are a lot of people out 617 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,359 Speaker 1: there who look at Colorado as like, if we break 618 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: up the pack twelve, you know, they're probably gonna be 619 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 1: one of the first to go. It's eleven miles from 620 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 1: the nearest school that it plays against, and uh, and 621 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 1: they haven't done much and they haven't done anything consistently 622 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 1: and so um, I don't think that people will be 623 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 1: as upset if Colorado State meets Colorado, because it happens. Sometimes. 624 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,320 Speaker 1: It really falls to Colorado to improve as the season goes. Improve. 625 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:48,800 Speaker 1: The next is probably the most intriguing game of me 626 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 1: of the weekend, the intriguing game that a lot of 627 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:58,840 Speaker 1: people really aren't paying attention to, and that is Oregon 628 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 1: State versus Oklahoma State. Actually sorry, Oklahoma State at Oregon State. 629 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 1: That's actually very very intriguing to me. It is Johnson 630 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 1: Smithson in his second year. We talked about Jake Lutton 631 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 1: Lutan however you say his name, their quarterback, he is. 632 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 1: He won the job. We know about the running back Jefferson. 633 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 1: He's the real deal. And after the way Oregon State 634 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 1: performed against Ohio State last year, even though they ended 635 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 1: up losing seventy seven and thirty one that was a 636 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,839 Speaker 1: much closer game than than it seemed. They get They 637 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: didn't get blown out to the fourth quarter. And Oklahoma 638 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 1: State is projected to be way down this year. People 639 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 1: are projecting him to finish fifth, sixth in or and 640 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: be a seven win team in the Big Twelve, maybe 641 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 1: at eight win team at the most. So this is 642 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 1: a game that if you're Oregon State, you have to 643 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 1: walk in this game thinking, wow, we maybe can win 644 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:10,879 Speaker 1: this game. Yeah, I mean Oklahoma State, even if they 645 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 1: take a step back. You're talking about a team that 646 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 1: was thirteenth and scoring nationally last year. So you have 647 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 1: a team that's never stopped anybody versus a team that's 648 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: really hard to stop. It really falls to Oregon State 649 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,720 Speaker 1: if they want to be competitive, to get a couple 650 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 1: of stops. As former as former Arizona State quarterback Mannie 651 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 1: Wilkins used to say, it's about getting a stop in 652 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: a bucket. So like you and and Oregon State knows 653 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 1: they can score on the open they were they were 654 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 1: and didn't come out. They didn't let Ohio State roll 655 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 1: out their helmets helmets and win, so their damns, You're 656 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 1: not gonna let Oklahoma State do it. At home right, 657 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,319 Speaker 1: And I mean, you've got a lot of experience in 658 00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 1: the defensive backfield for Oklahoma State, but not really any 659 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 1: linebacker or on the defensive line. So you gotta feed 660 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: Jermar Jefferson. You've got to establish some dominance. You've gotta 661 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 1: come out and you've gotta be physical from the get go, 662 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 1: and then somebody on your defense needs to make a play. 663 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 1: They've got a guy who I'm a huge believer in 664 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,400 Speaker 1: who has yet to show up and match his potentials, 665 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 1: names hamilcar Rasched. He's sort of an outside three four 666 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 1: stand up linebacker. He can play with his hand in 667 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 1: the dirt, or he can rush off the edge. He 668 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 1: is a monster if he can get to their quarterback. 669 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 1: If they can free him up and he can get 670 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 1: to the quarterback, he can be a game changer on 671 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 1: his own. But this is his fourth year out there. 672 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,720 Speaker 1: He doesn't have a whole lot of time left to prove. 673 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 1: You know that he's gonna be the guy for them Physically, 674 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,799 Speaker 1: he looks at he's got the talent, But I mean, 675 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,479 Speaker 1: they have to have somebody step up because they can't 676 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 1: just be this u. Oklahoma State is now a fourteen 677 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 1: point favorite and before we even do that, because we 678 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:02,319 Speaker 1: did not do the b YU Utah game. Who do 679 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 1: you who are you picking in that game? Who's gonna win? 680 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 1: Who's gonna who's gonna win? You taught me why you 681 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:18,360 Speaker 1: I have Utah as I have Utah by six points, 682 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 1: I gotta by two field goals. I think that they're 683 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 1: gonna be right around the spread. And all the rest 684 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 1: of the games were pretty much a layup. So now 685 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 1: we can start picking. Oklahoma State is fourteen point favorites 686 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 1: as of right now against Oregon State at Oregon State, 687 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 1: who do you have winning that game? I have Oklahoma 688 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,319 Speaker 1: State winning, and I think it's gonna be I think 689 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a matter. This is why I see 690 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 1: it going down. I think Oklahoma State can win by 691 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,879 Speaker 1: two scores. It's gonna be one of those things where 692 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,359 Speaker 1: Oregon State keeps making it a one score game over 693 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:56,800 Speaker 1: and over again. Um, and uh, do I think Oregon 694 00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:02,880 Speaker 1: State has a chance to win? I'm I'm not oh sure. Um. 695 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 1: I mean, if they can find a way to just 696 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 1: dominate the ball so that Oklahoma State doesn't have it 697 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 1: all the time, then they definitely have a shot. But 698 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,880 Speaker 1: I'm not sure they'll do that. I think if they 699 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 1: get down a touchdown or two, then you might just see, 700 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,880 Speaker 1: you know, everybody firing rockets all over the field. And 701 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 1: I think that that benefits that ultimately benefits Oklahoma State. 702 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 1: So I would put it. I would put it forty two. Um, 703 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,520 Speaker 1: believe Oregon State has a chance to shock the world. 704 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,799 Speaker 1: But then they're gonna but hold on, hold on what 705 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,799 Speaker 1: they're gonna squander it in the like the one of 706 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,759 Speaker 1: the last possessions of the game. And this is gonna 707 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 1: be a game that they're looking at. Oh my god, 708 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 1: we could have got this one and this will be 709 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 1: This will be the difference between there their third win 710 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 1: and fourth win of the season. That will be the 711 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 1: only difference with them. The next game up though Saturday, 712 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: four pm, well one pm out here on the West Coast. 713 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,400 Speaker 1: Northwestern comes all the way out here to the best 714 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 1: coast this year. Stanford went out there and played an 715 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,920 Speaker 1: ungodly early game last year and eleven am kick Pacific, 716 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:21,319 Speaker 1: which is craziness, and they played against Northwestern. Now Northwestern 717 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 1: comes out. Stanford is a six and a half point favorite. 718 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 1: Who you got, Ralph, Oh, and this game is on ABC. Well, 719 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 1: I know that I'm not gonna feel sorry for whoever loses. 720 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,759 Speaker 1: Like that's that when you see Northwestern and Stanford playing 721 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,239 Speaker 1: each other on the schedule, one team beats another one, 722 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter how bad. You're like, Oh, those poor 723 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:51,759 Speaker 1: guys you know leaving the field, so they're awesome. Yeah yeah, yeah, 724 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 1: I can't I can't wait. I have to. You can't 725 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 1: tweet about this game in case somebody on the field 726 00:40:56,320 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 1: ends up being your future boss. So I say, I mean, 727 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 1: I would say that I feel like Stanford, Um, Stanford's 728 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 1: gonna have this one in hand. Um, Northwestern, they got 729 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 1: a great coach in Pat Fitzgerald. They've had decent enough 730 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,440 Speaker 1: talent the last few years. They play physical. I think 731 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,759 Speaker 1: they maximize what they have on the field. Um, but 732 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,360 Speaker 1: Chicago kids, Illinois kids coming out and and playing in 733 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,359 Speaker 1: the Bay Area early in the morning to start their 734 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,880 Speaker 1: season off that way, I think they're gonna find themselves 735 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 1: down three touchdowns at half, and I think from that point, 736 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,360 Speaker 1: you know what it does when they get up a 737 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,799 Speaker 1: couple of scores, they're just gonna they're just gonna put 738 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:43,719 Speaker 1: the squeeze on exactly alike. And the fact that they 739 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 1: just just wear on you. They win games just war 740 00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 1: of attritions, except for Stanford's more talented. That's the bottom line. 741 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 1: Stanford had at our quarterback. The only thing that Stanford 742 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:58,319 Speaker 1: does not have on paper right now is a better 743 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 1: running back. Because Cameron's scarlet is not Bryce's love. He's 744 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,759 Speaker 1: not He's not any of he's not told me Gerhardt, 745 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 1: he's not any of the ones that they've had before. 746 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:13,759 Speaker 1: He's not Christian McCaffrey. This guy's he's just not. So 747 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,320 Speaker 1: the question is do they have somebody on the bench 748 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 1: that can be special and who can read holes make plays. 749 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 1: Because we know that David Shaw wants to run the football, 750 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,319 Speaker 1: he wants to do that consistently, and he will even 751 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,680 Speaker 1: bang his head against the wall when he doesn't need to. 752 00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 1: And if he lets k J. Costello loose, then this 753 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 1: is a game that will far exceed this six and 754 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 1: a half point spread. I believe I got Stanford winning 755 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,239 Speaker 1: this game. I think it's gonna be I think they're 756 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 1: gonna end up winning by a field goal when they 757 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,239 Speaker 1: should have been up by twenty one points. And then 758 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:57,920 Speaker 1: David Shaw finally just it's like alight, fine, I just 759 00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 1: I just gotta throw the throw the ball four at 760 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,840 Speaker 1: times the game because we can't run the ball like 761 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:09,040 Speaker 1: we want to. Yeah, I don't know. I mean Northwestern, 762 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,360 Speaker 1: I think we're thinking maybe too much about what Stanford 763 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,279 Speaker 1: Cannon can't do on offense and not thinking about the 764 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,680 Speaker 1: fact that Northwestern is only bringing two starters back on 765 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 1: the offensive line, new quarterback, new tight end. Uh, they're 766 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:30,440 Speaker 1: about half their defense graduated at both corners are starting 767 00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,600 Speaker 1: their very first year, UM, and I think that they 768 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,280 Speaker 1: can probably cover up for the fact that the running 769 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,040 Speaker 1: game isn't what you need it to be by going 770 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 1: out and just throwing the ball. Just go out and 771 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,359 Speaker 1: throw the ball and once you once you establish a lead, 772 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,680 Speaker 1: then try to work some kinks out of your out 773 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:48,640 Speaker 1: of your running game. And then again, I mean, you 774 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,719 Speaker 1: can never really count out Pat Fitzgerald. They opened up 775 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:56,200 Speaker 1: last year at per Due and made that a close one, UM, 776 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,560 Speaker 1: and then you know they and they are they won, 777 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 1: They actually won that game by or on the road 778 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,040 Speaker 1: than they had a Then they you know, two weeks later, 779 00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:06,320 Speaker 1: after everybody's excited about Northwestern, they go and loose to 780 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:10,760 Speaker 1: Acron at home and loose to Duke at home, and so, uh, 781 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,759 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. This is uh, this is 782 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,400 Speaker 1: also but then this is a team that beat the 783 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:21,279 Speaker 1: hell out of youth. But they they did lose a 784 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,439 Speaker 1: lot of players, and I'm gonna I'm gonna go ahead 785 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,440 Speaker 1: and stick with the fact that Stanford can cover up 786 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,359 Speaker 1: for their deficiencies by going out and throwing the needs 787 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,640 Speaker 1: they need to. If Stanford's gonna get to ten wins 788 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 1: this year, this is this has to be one of 789 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,759 Speaker 1: the games because their early season game is not gonna 790 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,440 Speaker 1: be easy. They got Northwestern u c F u SC 791 00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,319 Speaker 1: like this is this is not just you know, like, 792 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 1: this is not a cakewalk. This is not a cake 793 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,799 Speaker 1: walk by any stretch. And last year they finished nine 794 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,440 Speaker 1: and four. This year before nine and five, year before ten, 795 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,600 Speaker 1: in three, twelve and two, eight and five. You know, 796 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,359 Speaker 1: if Stanford wants to do anything special besides just win 797 00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,799 Speaker 1: nine games a year in you know, this is a 798 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:07,360 Speaker 1: game that they have to have the next game. The 799 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,239 Speaker 1: worst thing that could happen, the worst thing that could 800 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:13,280 Speaker 1: happen to Stanford is that sophomore running back Isaiah Bowser 801 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,640 Speaker 1: from Northwestern if he comes out and he's the Bowser 802 00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,680 Speaker 1: that's always harassing Mario, Like if he goes out there 803 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,839 Speaker 1: and he's a villain. I mean, and he just leading 804 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:26,200 Speaker 1: rusher last year was a freshman almost nine yards rushing. 805 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,200 Speaker 1: If he goes out and he has a big first 806 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,360 Speaker 1: half right off the bat, then it's just gonna be 807 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:35,719 Speaker 1: one of those knockdowns. Ralph the most. And now we 808 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,880 Speaker 1: get to the most important game in the pack twelve 809 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:43,280 Speaker 1: for this weekend. It is I mean, it has been 810 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,960 Speaker 1: talked about it until everybody can't hear about it anymore. 811 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:50,960 Speaker 1: That's Auburn versus Well Oregon versus Auburn played in Jerry's world. 812 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:56,480 Speaker 1: This is going to be on on every on every 813 00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,680 Speaker 1: television in every place that you can possibly see. It 814 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:03,279 Speaker 1: is going to be on ABC. This is a revenge 815 00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,440 Speaker 1: game for Oregon from the National Championship from two thousand 816 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:10,399 Speaker 1: and eleven, the BCS National Championship. All types of storylines, 817 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:16,680 Speaker 1: potential Heisman Trophy candidate, freshman starter with bow nicks and 818 00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 1: this This game opened up with Auburn being a six 819 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,160 Speaker 1: and a half point favorite, and now it's all the 820 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:29,680 Speaker 1: way down to three and a half points. Auburn is favorite. 821 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:35,879 Speaker 1: Who wins this game? Ralph? I think Oregon wins the game. 822 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,960 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna depend on a true freshman quarterback to 823 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,319 Speaker 1: go out there and get a win. I don't think 824 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:46,640 Speaker 1: Auburn's running game is um is good enough to carry them. 825 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,480 Speaker 1: They actually like Oregan's run defense. I know they don't 826 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,040 Speaker 1: have Jalen Jelks anymore, so that's a little bit of 827 00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,239 Speaker 1: a problem for me. But I mean, they've they've got 828 00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,760 Speaker 1: a lot of talent. If you can slow down Auburn's 829 00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,640 Speaker 1: running game, I mean, I think there's gonna be a close, 830 00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,319 Speaker 1: low scoring first half, and then I think you're gonna 831 00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,759 Speaker 1: see Oregon start to pull away in the second half. 832 00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:08,640 Speaker 1: I think that first half is gonna have a lot 833 00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,239 Speaker 1: of people holding their breath with the line being on 834 00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,759 Speaker 1: Auburn's side right now, and me thinking that Oregon is 835 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:15,640 Speaker 1: gonna win out right then obviously you think, you know, 836 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:20,120 Speaker 1: you know where I'm going with the friend. I just 837 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,600 Speaker 1: I believe that bo Nix is gonna be a good 838 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:27,080 Speaker 1: quarterback for Auburn. But this is a team that in 839 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,480 Speaker 1: in in the Oregon their Office of line best in 840 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,080 Speaker 1: the nation. Auburn's deef as the line is one of 841 00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,440 Speaker 1: the best in the nation. So this is a game 842 00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,759 Speaker 1: where Mario Christo Baal has to put his standp on 843 00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:41,160 Speaker 1: this Oregon program. This is such a must win that 844 00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,680 Speaker 1: a loss can't even be an option. This is such 845 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,880 Speaker 1: a big game for Oregon and the Pack twelve because 846 00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:52,440 Speaker 1: the whispers around the nation are Oregons and now now 847 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,479 Speaker 1: what they used to be. Ever since Chip Kelly left, 848 00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:58,600 Speaker 1: they just haven't been been the same. And and you know, 849 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:02,200 Speaker 1: the Oregon faithful is already hearing that. And also another 850 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,440 Speaker 1: key component what people don't know that goes on behind 851 00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,960 Speaker 1: the scenes that some of these schools is Phil Knight 852 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,959 Speaker 1: is almost ninety years old. He's eighty some years old, 853 00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:17,080 Speaker 1: and everybody wants to win a national championship for him 854 00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,480 Speaker 1: before he dies. He's not gonna be alive forever. He's 855 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,239 Speaker 1: a good man, done a lot of great things for 856 00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:26,240 Speaker 1: the Pact twelve in Stanford and in Oregon, and invisibility, 857 00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:31,000 Speaker 1: helping with visibility for the conference in general. So this, 858 00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,520 Speaker 1: I mean, there's just so many factors at play right 859 00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:39,080 Speaker 1: here Oregons. Why receivers are a little bit hurt right now. 860 00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:45,719 Speaker 1: Michael Pittman is is hurt. Uh Brendan's schooler is hurt. 861 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:53,240 Speaker 1: I mean, so it all falls to my guy, Johnny 862 00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:57,080 Speaker 1: Johnson the third gotta make the big catch at the 863 00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,600 Speaker 1: big moment. He can't just make the one fancy catch 864 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,959 Speaker 1: in the first quarter for forty five yards and they'll 865 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:04,719 Speaker 1: spend the rest of the game drop in the two 866 00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,800 Speaker 1: or three that are meant for him in more meaningful moments. 867 00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,600 Speaker 1: You know. He he this is his time. He has 868 00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:14,720 Speaker 1: to step up to his third year in an Oregon uniform. 869 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,640 Speaker 1: I've watched this guy since he was fourteen years old. 870 00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,000 Speaker 1: He could be a very special player. They need to 871 00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,799 Speaker 1: trust him more than twenty five yards down the field. 872 00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,920 Speaker 1: They gotta get him the ball on some bubbles and 873 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:29,319 Speaker 1: let him use that physicality, that muscle mass to push 874 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,800 Speaker 1: for some yards and uh and then change up the 875 00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:33,959 Speaker 1: speed a little bit by getting the ball to Jalen Red, 876 00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,480 Speaker 1: you know, and just just get the ball in the 877 00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:40,200 Speaker 1: hands of your playmakers. Don't worry about getting yards, you know, 878 00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,319 Speaker 1: thirty forty chunk of yards at a time. Let some 879 00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,960 Speaker 1: of your best skill players go up against some of 880 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:51,560 Speaker 1: Auburn's best skill players. Next game up is a oh well, 881 00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,000 Speaker 1: actually we are we We already talked about the thirty 882 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:58,719 Speaker 1: four point and spread Washington and New Mexico States and 883 00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,640 Speaker 1: we'll get to the what I believe is the most 884 00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:08,440 Speaker 1: intriguing game. Well aside from the Oregon State Oklahoma State game, 885 00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:10,319 Speaker 1: I think that this is the most sorry, the most 886 00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:15,960 Speaker 1: important game to the pack twelve because this game, depending 887 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:19,200 Speaker 1: on how it goes, could set in motion a ton 888 00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:26,520 Speaker 1: of crazy changes. That is Fresno State at USC. This game, 889 00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:31,200 Speaker 1: This game opened up at nine and a half points 890 00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:36,120 Speaker 1: and now it's at thirteen and a half points and USC. 891 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:40,400 Speaker 1: And this game is on ESPM. It's the night game, 892 00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:45,439 Speaker 1: seven thirty Pacific. This is the culmination of the back 893 00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:52,440 Speaker 1: twelve season because if USC, because I have a sneaky 894 00:50:52,480 --> 00:51:00,040 Speaker 1: suspicion that USC is like something feels weird in the 895 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:04,399 Speaker 1: air out here in California, they may lose this football game. 896 00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,360 Speaker 1: This feels like when they were favored by fifty points 897 00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:12,080 Speaker 1: is Fresno State and they lost. This is bad, dude. 898 00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:16,160 Speaker 1: I am nervous, I am terrified. I am petrified, and 899 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:20,400 Speaker 1: I cannot have USC losing this game because the nation 900 00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:24,400 Speaker 1: is gonna go, oh god, USC lost the Fresno State 901 00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,640 Speaker 1: and then USC fans are gonna be going crazy route 902 00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:32,800 Speaker 1: They're gonna say, oh, fire Helpton now, and then Who's 903 00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,279 Speaker 1: gonna be the next next coach. Urban Meyer may be 904 00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,200 Speaker 1: in place before the season goes out, or are they're 905 00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:44,040 Speaker 1: gonna hire Jeff Tepford after? They may literally if Fresno 906 00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:48,280 Speaker 1: State wins this game, they may literally fire Clay Helton 907 00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,719 Speaker 1: and then offer Jeff Tepford the job right there on 908 00:51:52,800 --> 00:52:00,160 Speaker 1: the on the spot. Yeah right, uh here, here's what 909 00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:04,920 Speaker 1: I'll say this game. You know what this game feels 910 00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:08,400 Speaker 1: like to me. You're going out of town for a 911 00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,960 Speaker 1: weekend and you look your kids right in the face 912 00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,680 Speaker 1: and you tell them that are not throwing the parties. 913 00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:20,680 Speaker 1: Well I'm gone, And then you walk out the door 914 00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,279 Speaker 1: and you're and you're just constantly second guess yourself, Like 915 00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,239 Speaker 1: my kids goold right like they would, I mean they 916 00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:30,800 Speaker 1: probably would, but they won't if I told them not to, 917 00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,799 Speaker 1: Like this is the opportunity for them that to earn 918 00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,120 Speaker 1: my trust. They're not gonna do it, are they are? 919 00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:39,200 Speaker 1: They are? They? So? Like I'm That's all I've been 920 00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:42,120 Speaker 1: thinking about all week long, is like USC is not 921 00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:47,200 Speaker 1: gonna blow this when all off season everyone said they 922 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,359 Speaker 1: were going to. But that whole team knows that they 923 00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:55,319 Speaker 1: can't blow it because of what it will mean for 924 00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:59,960 Speaker 1: the entire program. I just I don't know it's an 925 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,880 Speaker 1: possible team to trust, even though they have all of 926 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:07,000 Speaker 1: this talent. And Fresno State is good, just like parties 927 00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,480 Speaker 1: are tempting. Right, You've got an empty house, you've got 928 00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,080 Speaker 1: your friends, let's have a good time. Fresno State is good. 929 00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,680 Speaker 1: It is fully believable that they could turn around and 930 00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,080 Speaker 1: do to USC what they did to the team that 931 00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:23,160 Speaker 1: beat USC wouldn't be able to You know, that was 932 00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:28,640 Speaker 1: that I had never even considered it. Well that and 933 00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,839 Speaker 1: and and maybe lyn Swann will have to take off 934 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:34,200 Speaker 1: the belt and and and play and play upset dad. 935 00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:36,640 Speaker 1: You know, if they end up losing this game, I 936 00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:39,680 Speaker 1: don't think they will. I hate this line. I absolutely 937 00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,120 Speaker 1: hate that l A is four hours from Vegas, so 938 00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,319 Speaker 1: you have all these people driving over and piling all 939 00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,879 Speaker 1: the money on the USC side, and I'd stay far 940 00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:50,480 Speaker 1: away from it. If anything, I'd take Fresno State, you know, uh, 941 00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:53,560 Speaker 1: plus the thirteen or whatever. But I will say that 942 00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:57,040 Speaker 1: I think that USC wins this game, not in a 943 00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:01,160 Speaker 1: convincing fashion enough to like relieve all of the pressure 944 00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,360 Speaker 1: that's being put on them by a piste off fan base. 945 00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:08,120 Speaker 1: But they're not going to believe when you hit the 946 00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,480 Speaker 1: nail right on the head, buddy, that this is for that. 947 00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,120 Speaker 1: This is not going to be a blowout win. This 948 00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,280 Speaker 1: is just gonna be a win that's just good enough. 949 00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:22,640 Speaker 1: That's just good enough to to get the W. But 950 00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:27,000 Speaker 1: not relieve any you know, fears. There's actually gonna be 951 00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:30,560 Speaker 1: more speculation going on. People are gonna be uneasy. They're 952 00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:32,680 Speaker 1: gonna be like, ah, they that they won, but it 953 00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:38,800 Speaker 1: wasn't pretty and and if they if they do lose, 954 00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,840 Speaker 1: let's be really honest. Fresno State was good last year, 955 00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:45,600 Speaker 1: but this year. The only thing that's going to be 956 00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:47,920 Speaker 1: the same about Fresno State is the bulldog on the 957 00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:52,719 Speaker 1: helmet they replaced the whole of a question if they 958 00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:58,280 Speaker 1: come out and the US, if USC loses to Fresno 959 00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:05,520 Speaker 1: State and then loses to Stanford, does Clay Hilton make 960 00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:13,239 Speaker 1: it make the plane to by U. Yeah, I think 961 00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,920 Speaker 1: I think that the I think the change would be 962 00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,759 Speaker 1: going going into Washington. I think that he'll get four 963 00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:22,879 Speaker 1: games regardless unless he's unless he's oh and three maybe 964 00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:26,600 Speaker 1: going into the fourth game. I guess I hate that 965 00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:28,640 Speaker 1: we're even having this conversation because we spent the entire 966 00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,719 Speaker 1: every previous episode, like, no, we're the only ones that 967 00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:33,799 Speaker 1: are high on USC and now when it comes time 968 00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:35,680 Speaker 1: to pull the trigger, we're like they might lose to 969 00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,400 Speaker 1: Frisdo State. Well, I did say that they have the 970 00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:41,359 Speaker 1: biggest range of any team in the Pack twelves five 971 00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:44,200 Speaker 1: and seven, or they could go twelve and oh that's 972 00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:48,040 Speaker 1: how talented this team is. But there is something a 973 00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:51,560 Speaker 1: big disconnect. And the final game in the Pack twelve 974 00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:56,640 Speaker 1: is you see Davis versus Cow, and I think Cow, 975 00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:01,600 Speaker 1: Cow's only favored by two touchdowns in this game. How Ever, however, 976 00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:07,080 Speaker 1: this is a game that Cal needs to because of 977 00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,719 Speaker 1: how good their defense was last year. They returned so 978 00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,880 Speaker 1: many starters. This is a game that they must blank. 979 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,200 Speaker 1: You see Davis Like you see Davis can't get on 980 00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:20,000 Speaker 1: the board in terms of a confidence booster for Cow 981 00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:23,080 Speaker 1: because if Cal can shut them out, which is entirely 982 00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:28,319 Speaker 1: possible and put up you know, thirty five points are 983 00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:32,640 Speaker 1: so thirty eight points, that is going to propel CAW 984 00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,719 Speaker 1: to have some serious momentum for the rest of the 985 00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,640 Speaker 1: season because because this is a team that finished the 986 00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:44,160 Speaker 1: regular season what SCEPN six and six? Yeah, now and 987 00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,320 Speaker 1: now you're like, oh, no, no, no, sorry. They finished 988 00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:48,759 Speaker 1: a regular season seven no, no six, six and six, 989 00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:51,919 Speaker 1: and then they won their bowl game, so you're just like, Okay, 990 00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:55,040 Speaker 1: this is a team that you know they're gonna build 991 00:56:55,040 --> 00:57:00,760 Speaker 1: a momentum. Their secondary is absolutely awesome. Huh, I wonder 992 00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:05,040 Speaker 1: what's happening. I don't think that I don't think that 993 00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:07,120 Speaker 1: they're going to get it done, George. I don't think 994 00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:10,680 Speaker 1: that they're gonna come out and be dominant against You see, 995 00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:14,160 Speaker 1: Davis team won ten games last year. That's coached by 996 00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:17,680 Speaker 1: Dan freaking Hawkins, so you know that he's you know, 997 00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,360 Speaker 1: he's not gonna be intimidated by playing against Callie's done 998 00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:24,760 Speaker 1: it plenty. Um. I don't know. I I think that 999 00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:28,400 Speaker 1: it's gonna be an ugly game. Um, and it'll be 1000 00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:31,160 Speaker 1: it'll be a cow win. But I think they're gonna 1001 00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:34,240 Speaker 1: feel this one. I mean, you see, Davis is like 1002 00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:37,600 Speaker 1: the FCS version of Stanford. They got all these smart, 1003 00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:40,959 Speaker 1: physical kids. They've recruited really really well, and now they've 1004 00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,560 Speaker 1: turned around and and gone from the coach who was 1005 00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:46,560 Speaker 1: recruiting really well, uh into you know, into bringing in 1006 00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:51,600 Speaker 1: Dan Hawkins. And I think that he's I mean two 1007 00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:54,320 Speaker 1: thousand and he's been there the last few years. They've 1008 00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:57,120 Speaker 1: been steadily getting better there. Cow is not in any 1009 00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:59,560 Speaker 1: danger of losing. But I mean they're gonna they're gonna 1010 00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,800 Speaker 1: feel this one. This isn't this isn't your typical Uh, 1011 00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:06,440 Speaker 1: this isn't your typical FCS opponent. Um to to start 1012 00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,360 Speaker 1: the season, especially when you're struggling to find your own 1013 00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:12,520 Speaker 1: offensive identity. Um. You know, they went from they went 1014 00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:14,440 Speaker 1: from five and six and two thousand seventeen to ten 1015 00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:16,640 Speaker 1: and three last year, seven and one in the in 1016 00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:20,280 Speaker 1: the big sky. They're gonna they're gonna continue with that 1017 00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:23,000 Speaker 1: that they're they're gonna come out. I mean, twenty point 1018 00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:26,080 Speaker 1: win to me would be good. Fourteen something like that 1019 00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:27,720 Speaker 1: would be good. But I don't see this being one 1020 00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,400 Speaker 1: of those fifty and nothing. I really don't see it 1021 00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:32,680 Speaker 1: being one of those games, especially without a without a 1022 00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:34,680 Speaker 1: quarter But who's a quarterback who's gone the last eight 1023 00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:37,040 Speaker 1: games without throwing over two hundred yards in a game. 1024 00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:42,400 Speaker 1: I can agree with you there, Ralph, um, Oh, you 1025 00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:46,520 Speaker 1: forgot one of the main points that you wanted to 1026 00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:51,160 Speaker 1: talk about today. You forgot about your man champ Flemings. 1027 00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:55,800 Speaker 1: So I'm giving you did I sell him short? Oh wow? 1028 00:58:56,000 --> 00:59:01,160 Speaker 1: That dude. If you guys don't know who Chip Flipming is, 1029 00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,640 Speaker 1: we will put a picture of him in the description. 1030 00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:10,240 Speaker 1: But he is Oregon States. He's in Oregon States starting lineup. 1031 00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:17,600 Speaker 1: He's five ft five hundred and forty pounds and he's 1032 00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:24,919 Speaker 1: playing college football at wide receiver. This is absolutely incredible. 1033 00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:28,560 Speaker 1: This dude is smaller. This dude is smaller than j J. 1034 00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:33,680 Speaker 1: Taylor at Arizona, Smaller than j J. Taylor, smaller than 1035 00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,360 Speaker 1: Ken Simonson. Was smaller than any player that you have 1036 00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:41,080 Speaker 1: ever seen, probably in a pack twelve uniform. I don't 1037 00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:43,200 Speaker 1: even know how to I don't even know how he plays. 1038 00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:46,160 Speaker 1: Why why out? It makes it hard for the quarterback 1039 00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:48,880 Speaker 1: to throw in certain windows. That can't throw high balls 1040 00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:52,680 Speaker 1: to him, they can't throw jump balls. I mean, if 1041 00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:55,680 Speaker 1: you're not handing him the ball, how can he play? 1042 00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,560 Speaker 1: I gotta touch. So this is the team, right, this 1043 00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:01,400 Speaker 1: is the team that had the Rogers brother. If anybody 1044 01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:03,480 Speaker 1: can make it work, it's Oregon State. He played in 1045 01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:07,160 Speaker 1: games last year quiz Rodgers. Yea, yeah, So, I mean 1046 01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:09,520 Speaker 1: it's it's not like it's anything different for him. He 1047 01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:13,720 Speaker 1: got action in in every single game last year. UM. 1048 01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:17,080 Speaker 1: He I think he had a few catches. He had 1049 01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:20,160 Speaker 1: a kick return. UM. He caught two passes for forty 1050 01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:23,680 Speaker 1: two yards against Washington State. UM, and he got to 1051 01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:26,960 Speaker 1: two catches in the win over Colorado. So he's been 1052 01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:29,160 Speaker 1: on the field. He's been on the field in big moments. 1053 01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:31,040 Speaker 1: He was a monster in high school. He played at 1054 01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:33,640 Speaker 1: Cathedral There one of the best teams in California. Year 1055 01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:36,400 Speaker 1: in year out. He had two thousand yards receiving in 1056 01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:39,480 Speaker 1: his high school career. He's good. It's the weight scares 1057 01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:41,320 Speaker 1: the living hell out of me. A hundred and forty 1058 01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:44,280 Speaker 1: one pounds. Yeah, he's an inch shorter than J. J. Taylor, 1059 01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:46,480 Speaker 1: two inches shorter than J J. Taylor. But he's like 1060 01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:50,120 Speaker 1: thirty five pounds smaller than J J. Taylor. And so 1061 01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:52,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. This is gonna be pretty wild to watch. 1062 01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,640 Speaker 1: Definitely tune in for that. Oh, I'm all in on that. 1063 01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:58,120 Speaker 1: And people were talking about their ski to carle Lloyd 1064 01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:01,480 Speaker 1: would be been a kicker at an non contact position, 1065 01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:06,120 Speaker 1: but you're not scared. Yeah, exactly. That definitely goes to 1066 01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:09,600 Speaker 1: reinforce your point. And I mean I'll also throw out 1067 01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:14,520 Speaker 1: there that uh we we've had. I mean, it's just 1068 01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:17,040 Speaker 1: like it's gonna be wild. It's like watching Earl Boykins 1069 01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:19,040 Speaker 1: out there playing in the NBA, you know, and then 1070 01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:20,360 Speaker 1: all of a sudden you see him make a couple 1071 01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:22,240 Speaker 1: of plays and you're like, oh, he belongs. I think 1072 01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:24,040 Speaker 1: when you watch this game and you see chance get 1073 01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,840 Speaker 1: a couple of catches and not just turned to dust 1074 01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:29,600 Speaker 1: like fan O snapped or something the first time he 1075 01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:31,680 Speaker 1: gets hit, then you'd be like, all right, I guess 1076 01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:34,760 Speaker 1: it is possible for uh, somebody the size of my 1077 01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:37,560 Speaker 1: eleven year old son to be out there catching passes 1078 01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:39,520 Speaker 1: in the pack twelve. And then on the other hand, 1079 01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:41,520 Speaker 1: maybe it just adds to the whole narrative that the 1080 01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:43,520 Speaker 1: pack twelve is a little bit. But I don't know 1081 01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:46,560 Speaker 1: if you'd have a five pounder in the SEC. I 1082 01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:49,360 Speaker 1: have no idea. But I do know that this kid 1083 01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:51,919 Speaker 1: has obviously been good enough to earn his way, and 1084 01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:54,600 Speaker 1: he's contributed in big moments, and so now he's just 1085 01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:57,160 Speaker 1: got a chance to step it up even more. We'll 1086 01:01:57,160 --> 01:02:00,320 Speaker 1: see what he does against a big twelve oponent. Ralph, 1087 01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:04,840 Speaker 1: it's usually me who is burning standing on the soapbox 1088 01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:09,360 Speaker 1: yelling about something. But today it's you. It is your 1089 01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:13,400 Speaker 1: turn because you are the man affected the most by 1090 01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:17,439 Speaker 1: the Pack twelve and these awful schedules that have been 1091 01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:21,880 Speaker 1: happening the Pact. The team that you covered the absolute most, 1092 01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:28,040 Speaker 1: the Arizona State Sun Devils have three games on week 1093 01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:33,760 Speaker 1: days this year. Three games. What do you think about that, Ralph? Well, first, 1094 01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:35,720 Speaker 1: just to give me the energy to get through this, 1095 01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:39,560 Speaker 1: for for for our casting Stones segment, you just please 1096 01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:42,760 Speaker 1: feed me those couple of metaphors you text me about 1097 01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:45,400 Speaker 1: about the Pack twelve plan on weekdays, because I just 1098 01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:48,040 Speaker 1: need the energy and strength to get through this. Well, 1099 01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:52,000 Speaker 1: first thing is is all right, I'm like you. The 1100 01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:56,520 Speaker 1: Pack twelve is devaluing its brand by playing on all 1101 01:02:56,640 --> 01:03:01,040 Speaker 1: these week days. You don't like row Lex. It doesn't 1102 01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:03,560 Speaker 1: try and sell watches in the middle of the mall. 1103 01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:08,160 Speaker 1: Rose Royce, doesn't try to put their cars in CarMax. 1104 01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:12,400 Speaker 1: There is power and saying no. Just because somebody offers 1105 01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:16,240 Speaker 1: you a Thursday game a Friday game, say oh, you'll 1106 01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,840 Speaker 1: be the only thing on. That doesn't mean that you 1107 01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:22,680 Speaker 1: should take it because guess who cannot watch on Friday's 1108 01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:28,400 Speaker 1: Recruits and guess who they'll be watching on Saturday's somebody 1109 01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:31,440 Speaker 1: else another conference because they can't see it on Pack 1110 01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:36,600 Speaker 1: twelve network, so they can't so they're already at a disadvantage. 1111 01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:39,160 Speaker 1: And then you're not even playing on Saturday, so they 1112 01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:41,640 Speaker 1: can't even see the score goal across the ticker tape 1113 01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:44,160 Speaker 1: and see it move. They need to be able to 1114 01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:48,320 Speaker 1: see you and your highlights during that time, as opposed 1115 01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:51,600 Speaker 1: to coming home on Friday night. They're already gonna be tired. 1116 01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:54,000 Speaker 1: They played in their game, they hung out with their friends, 1117 01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:56,880 Speaker 1: all of that. They're not even gonna know what happened 1118 01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:59,720 Speaker 1: in your game. It's like if you gave a perfect 1119 01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:02,520 Speaker 1: exam pool like Daniel snapped and you were not there. 1120 01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:05,960 Speaker 1: The PAC twelve has to honor its brand. Do not 1121 01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:09,720 Speaker 1: try to sell your Rolex watch in the middle of 1122 01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:12,600 Speaker 1: the mall. Don't try to sell it at Jarrett's, don't 1123 01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:14,560 Speaker 1: try to sell it at something. Try you have to 1124 01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:18,400 Speaker 1: sell it at high end stores. See now you got 1125 01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:20,440 Speaker 1: worked up. You pretty much have did my job for me. 1126 01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:22,960 Speaker 1: I just put it this way. I'm gonna be out 1127 01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:26,600 Speaker 1: there at It's one thing. If you want to talk 1128 01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:31,720 Speaker 1: about what time slots, you gotta move your school around 1129 01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:33,800 Speaker 1: to be able to make sure that somebody wants to 1130 01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:36,400 Speaker 1: watch the Pack twelve over the Big twelve. But you 1131 01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:40,160 Speaker 1: know what, you're never gonna beat You're not gonna beat 1132 01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:43,920 Speaker 1: Grey's Anatomy. You're not gonna beat Law and Order s VU. 1133 01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:47,960 Speaker 1: For God's sake, there they put out a prequel to 1134 01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:51,440 Speaker 1: the Big Bang theory. You really think that families are 1135 01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:55,040 Speaker 1: gonna miss the chance to watch young Sheldon to see 1136 01:04:55,080 --> 01:05:01,080 Speaker 1: Arizona State take on the Kent State Golden Flashes. Probably not. 1137 01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:06,760 Speaker 1: Probably not. It's a nightmare logistically anyway for people that 1138 01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:09,320 Speaker 1: just have to live their lives. It's part of the 1139 01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:13,080 Speaker 1: thing that is driving down attendance. People talk about, you know, 1140 01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:15,000 Speaker 1: Pack twelve. Cities have so much to do and so 1141 01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:18,440 Speaker 1: much quality of life. No, the attendant has gone down 1142 01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:22,880 Speaker 1: every single year because of stuff like this, because you 1143 01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:26,400 Speaker 1: have eight or nine factors all working to drive down 1144 01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:29,880 Speaker 1: the attendance at the game. I'm curious if a sus 1145 01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:32,440 Speaker 1: even gonna pull forty thousand for a season opener with 1146 01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:35,880 Speaker 1: a brand new freshman quarterback that off of a team 1147 01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:39,080 Speaker 1: that broke everybody's expectations last year. I don't know. And 1148 01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:42,440 Speaker 1: then they're gonna follow it up with playing on a 1149 01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:46,640 Speaker 1: Friday next week on a Friday. If there's one thing 1150 01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:49,080 Speaker 1: that a s U has never been able to get right, 1151 01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:52,360 Speaker 1: it's recruiting all of the talent that's right here in state. 1152 01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:54,440 Speaker 1: But guess who's not going to be on your sideline 1153 01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:59,120 Speaker 1: watching your game on Fridays. Those players. Then when they're 1154 01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:01,440 Speaker 1: icing up on set Saturday, what, let's see what games 1155 01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:05,720 Speaker 1: are on It doesn't absolutely nothing for your brand awareness. 1156 01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:08,840 Speaker 1: Then they're gonna go out to cal Berkeley and play 1157 01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:12,880 Speaker 1: in the Bay Area on a Friday night. Football players 1158 01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:15,560 Speaker 1: are creatures of having. The one thing that the NFL 1159 01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:20,040 Speaker 1: has always done great besides oversaturating the market now with 1160 01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:23,480 Speaker 1: a Thursday game, is making sure that the West Coast 1161 01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:27,080 Speaker 1: and East coast kickoff times are always the same. Then 1162 01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:28,800 Speaker 1: you've got your one Sunday night, then you've got your 1163 01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:30,520 Speaker 1: one Monday night, and then they set it up so 1164 01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:33,480 Speaker 1: that you've got time to prepare for those games so 1165 01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:36,000 Speaker 1: that your bodies, for the most part, are healed up right. Again, 1166 01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:38,200 Speaker 1: this is all outside of the travesty that is the 1167 01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:43,320 Speaker 1: NFL Thursday night games. But a s U is playing 1168 01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:45,880 Speaker 1: to Friday night games and a Thursday night game on 1169 01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:49,520 Speaker 1: their schedule this season, and they also still have to 1170 01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:52,640 Speaker 1: deal with the fact that if they're good, that changes 1171 01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:54,640 Speaker 1: them to being, you know, someone who doesn't get their 1172 01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:58,600 Speaker 1: schedule for the next week until six days out based 1173 01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:01,520 Speaker 1: on what TV stay show wants to come in and 1174 01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:04,480 Speaker 1: move them here, or they're based on you know, whatever 1175 01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:07,680 Speaker 1: they think is best at any given time. So I 1176 01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:11,400 Speaker 1: just it's hard enough on Saturdays when you don't know 1177 01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:13,960 Speaker 1: when you're gonna kick off. It's a lot harder when 1178 01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:16,640 Speaker 1: you're throwing some of these games on Thursday, and all 1179 01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:18,720 Speaker 1: that people can really do is just check Twitter to 1180 01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:22,320 Speaker 1: see how you're doing, because they have other commitments, because 1181 01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:24,680 Speaker 1: they got to pick their kids up from football practice, 1182 01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:26,360 Speaker 1: because they got TV shows that they want to watch. 1183 01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:30,120 Speaker 1: They've got family dinners and PTO meetings because they don't 1184 01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:33,880 Speaker 1: want to feel like ship at work on Friday morning 1185 01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:36,600 Speaker 1: because they stayed out until two in the morning in 1186 01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:39,960 Speaker 1: Tempe where the temperature never got below a hundred degrees. 1187 01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:43,640 Speaker 1: I agree with you, Ralph, and I hope that all 1188 01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:47,200 Speaker 1: you guys are cheering four pack twelve teams against the 1189 01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:49,640 Speaker 1: other teams in the conference. Even if you're a USC 1190 01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:53,640 Speaker 1: fan in U C L A's playing Washington. Washington's dates plan. 1191 01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:56,920 Speaker 1: The conference needs to win these non conference games if 1192 01:07:56,920 --> 01:08:00,400 Speaker 1: you even want a chance for your team who win 1193 01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:04,160 Speaker 1: the national championship or get invited into the top four. 1194 01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:08,080 Speaker 1: If it's close, you have to have that pub and 1195 01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:10,760 Speaker 1: that pool. You guys. Thank you guys for listening to 1196 01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:14,440 Speaker 1: the Pacto Apostles. We appreciate your time, your energy. Make 1197 01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:17,479 Speaker 1: sure you share the podcast, tell a friend about it, 1198 01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:21,160 Speaker 1: and visit Unafraid show dot com. And also, if you 1199 01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:24,000 Speaker 1: have a question, comment, anything to send to us, send 1200 01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:26,880 Speaker 1: it to I'm mad at Unafraid show dot com, the 1201 01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:29,599 Speaker 1: greatest email address according to Ralph and all the land. 1202 01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:33,280 Speaker 1: And we will see how well. Actually, we have to 1203 01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:36,360 Speaker 1: wait till next week to see how the Arizona Amazons do. 1204 01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:39,479 Speaker 1: So you guys make sure that you're killing my brand, 1205 01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:43,479 Speaker 1: killing my brand that you guys make sure that you 1206 01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:48,559 Speaker 1: guys tune in on Monday for the next episode. Peace out, 1207 01:08:48,640 --> 01:09:00,599 Speaker 1: Catch you guys later. Four